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Briefing Room Polls (Guests Welcome!) => The Briefingroom Polls => Topic started by: corbe on October 04, 2019, 04:21:20 am
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Like a good 2 slice toaster in the morning, with Sanders sipping soup on his deathbed and the Ukraine thing about to blow back on Biden.
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Biden will never be the candidate, even before the Ukraine corruption scandal manifested itself
Sanders, taken down by Fauxcahontas. She is a shill for Clinton, whose sole purpose was to block out Sanders.. Mission accomplished, even prior to his heart issues.
Harris and Booker....please, get real. Light weight city
Castro...perhaps another Clinton shill to dilute Sanders
Buttigieg...maybe the Twilight Zone is real...maybe
2020 Trump vs Clinton
...count on it!
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The one that appears when Trump looks at a mirror!!!!!
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Williamson wasn't on the list. Until Dorian she was - I'm serious - sounding the least loony of the bunch.
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Biden will never be the candidate, even before the Ukraine corruption scandal manifested itself
Sanders, taken down by Fauxcahontas. She is a shill for Clinton, whose sole purpose was to block out Sanders.. Mission accomplished, even prior to his heart issues.
Harris and Booker....please, get real. Light weight city
Castro...perhaps another Clinton shill to dilute Sanders
Buttigieg...maybe the Twilight Zone is real...maybe
2020 Trump vs Clinton
...count on it!
And if she thinks what she got in 2016 is something she hasn't seen anything yet!
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Biden will never be the candidate, even before the Ukraine corruption scandal manifested itself
Sanders, taken down by Fauxcahontas. She is a shill for Clinton, whose sole purpose was to block out Sanders.. Mission accomplished, even prior to his heart issues.
Harris and Booker....please, get real. Light weight city
Castro...perhaps another Clinton shill to dilute Sanders
Buttigieg...maybe the Twilight Zone is real...maybe
2020 Trump vs Clinton
...count on it!
It'll be Clinton, who'll be just as electable as she was the last time. The determiner will be the energy generated by the thirst for revenge from her supporters and how it will influence the middle of the roaders.
I'm thinking they'll find it repelling.
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The Media
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The Media
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner here folks! No more calls please!
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No more calls please!
@Bigun Ha! It wasn't my plan to blow up the poll. Sorry @corbe.
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Right now, Trump is his own worst enemy and he will give himself the most trouble in 2020.
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Right now, Trump is his own worst enemy and he will give himself the most trouble in 2020.
You are perfectly free to continue to believe that if you want but it won't make it so.
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You are perfectly free to continue to believe that if you want but it won't make it so.
And you re perfectly free to believe that all of Trump' woes are the result of a "witch hunt" or a "coup" being perpetrated by the Democrats, the "Deep State." George Soros or whoever the "enemy of the state" du jour is today.
Up till now Trump had managed to BS his way out of every jam, but I'm not so sure that is working anymore. Except for his most fervent supporters, others, including those who voted for him in 2016, are looking at him a little differently and maybe they are not so impressed with him and his baloney anymore. They may very well believe he has done something worthy of impeachment and Trump's efforts to spin his troubles by lashing out on Twitter and blaming everyone else are not working with them. Perhaps if Trump had actually made some effort to do a lot of good as president, these voters might be ok with the drama and horse manure. But I believe they are looking at him differently now and they may decide he's not worth their support.
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An observation/reflection.
The catalyst behind the Trump wealth was his father, certainly not Donald.
Those who mature in such an environment are shielded from the working
class world and unable to understand the perspective of plain people.
He became a creature of the Hollywood entertainment posse for some 20
years presenting Ms. Universe and Ms. USA while later, some 15 years
headlining The Apprentice where he was surrounded and coddled by
squads of flunky's, lackeys and bum kissers; the behavioral norm, which
has nothing to do w/the world of the remaining 99.9% of the citizens.
Is it any wonder he behaves as he does w/his brainless tweets, his rants,
his smirks and all the rest of his daily antics.
Current polling is more than a year premature and meaningless.
The core and only question is whether or not Trump has/will exasperate
his welcome w/the majority of the voters by 11/20!!!!
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Let's see...
- Biden: expert in politics, 44 years experience, one of the last of the Rockefeller Republicans in his early career, liberal but pragmatic and not nearly as far left as the rest of the field. Being Obama's VP helps in certain elements of the base. The Ukraine attacks aren't sticking and somehow it got turned around against Trump. (Funny how the left doesn't mind doing underhanded things but screams bloody murder when they get caught.)
- Warren: far left, has a few populist veins but seems to be even less likable than Clinton was. Underperforms compared to other Democrats in the election record. If I'm Trump, I'm begging the DNC to nominate her.
- Sanders: In '16, I'd've said he might have been a real threat. He's a master at packaging socialism as something that looks nice (we all know it's not, but his base will never admit it). But now he's 80. His health is starting to fail, as we saw this week. Father Time might be the biggest threat he faces.
- The rest of the field: they stand no chance. Harris is too far left to be credible with the center but too corrupt to have credibility with the left. Booker might be a sleeper but he's got catching up to do. Buttigieg isn't going to get very far with his raison-d'etre being "I'm gay, and all you Christians are bigots." Bobby O'Rourke has flamed out. Yang is this year's Ron Paul: cult following on the Internet (I mean, who doesn't want free money?) that won't translate to the polls (when they realize you can't just take people's stocks and redistribute them like cash). The rest have no traction: Klobuchar might stand a faint chance in her home state of Minnesota, but other than that, I don't see the rest of the field even standing a chance at taking one state, much less the nomination.
- Hillary: Losing to Trump the first time around ruined her reputation. Anyone who thinks she's still a threat is stuck in the past.
I still say Biden is the biggest general election threat of the field.
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But if I were to venture ANY potential threat to Trump's re-elections, it would be some sort of labor market collapse on the order of what happened in 2008. He got elected on jobs, jobs, jobs. If the jobs disappear, he'll be toast.
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But if I were to venture ANY potential threat to Trump's re-elections, it would be some sort of labor market collapse on the order of what happened in 2008. He got elected on jobs, jobs, jobs. If the jobs disappear, he'll be toast.
??? Trump did NOT get elected on jobs. What he got elected on is building the wall, limiting granting asylum to refugees, revamping immigration laws and draining the swamp. In that aspect the accomplishments have been slow and in part due to the obstruction by the left.
Yes, indeed he has turned the economy around and brought jobs which has been his saving grace and to his credit. The U.S. is experiencing its lowest unemployment rates in 50 years and in the case of Blacks and Hispanics, the lowest rates in history. The latest economic data indicates that there is no indication of a recession, though the left has been trying to get people to believe otherwise.
Meanwhile ... the focus is on impeachment and the Ukraine and we hear very little on what's happening with the 2A. That I believe would be his true death sentence if he does anything to interfere with rights under the 2A.
We also at this point are assuming that he will not be impeached nor removed from office.
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President Trump has worked diligently to accomplish his promises from the campaign in 2016, with both parties working actively against him. Romney and Lee introduced legislation to stop him from using money budgeted for DOD for the wall. Both parties have worked against him since day one. Despite the opposition, he plods along pushing his agenda.
I believe the American people see just how much resistance he is facing, and they will vote for him overwhelmingly in Nov, 2020. Clinton will be the opponent in 2020. Biden stands no chance against her. Sanders has been diluted with Warren, Castro and others, and he will not hinder Clinton. Look for Warren to be a key player in HRC's administration, should HRC win. She won't, for Trump will take 40 states in 2020.
Biden was done before the Ukraine scandal was manifested. DONE! So too was Sanders. And Warren is a shill for HRC, believe me. She never stood a chance against Trump. Her role was to take out Sanders. All choreographed for your entertainment.
It will be TRUMP vs CLINTON
....get used to it.
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President Trump has worked diligently to accomplish his promises from the campaign in 2016, with both parties working actively against him. Romney and Lee introduced legislation to stop him from using money budgeted for DOD for the wall. Both parties have worked against him since day one. Despite the opposition, he plods along pushing his agenda.
Of course, nothing that goes wrong or doesn't get done is ever Trump's fault. Always someone else's. Seems to me I recall almost from the beginning , he bitched and moaned about his own party. He made it clear he had no intention of working with Republicans in congress. And he didn't. He tried executive orders which were mostly struck down by the courts. The couple of times I know of when he did meet with congress, he threw a temper tantrum and stormed out. This is the supposedly brilliant businessman -- the Art of the Deal expert -- but it seems he couldn't negotiate his way out of a paper bag. Mostly because he really didn't want to.
Looks to me like for the most part he spent much of the last three years, tweeting insults, golfing and running around the country on his never-ending rock star tour. Yes, I know he has to wait for congress to pass legislation, but as president, he should have had some influence -- the ability to sit down with congressional party leadership and work toward moving the supposed Republican agenda forward. He didn't.
And for two years, Trump had a Republican majority in both houses of congress. A slim majority I know, but still something should have been accomplished. Yes, they did pass so-called tax reform, which was little more than a tax tweak, which didn't benefit most people, and what few benefits there were had an expiration date attached to them. Some tax reform.
Ok, so Trump is not entirely to blame -- much of that blame is shared with the lazy lumps in congress. But Trump still shares the blame nonetheless. Now he no longer has a Republican majority in the house and it's possible, the majority in the senate will pass to the Democrats too. Trump and the Republicans had their chance to accomplish great things. They blew it. And even if Trump wins in 2030, nothing still will be done because he will have a hostile congress. In effect, he will be a lame duck president for four years. Even if by some miracle the Republicans hold onto the senate and somehow regain the house -- if Trump and the Republicans did nothing during those two years they had the trifecta, why would anyone think the promises they didn't keep then will be kept after 11/2020?
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It will be TRUMP vs CLINTON
....get used to it.
HA-HA-HA!
Nope.
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You left off the option of Trump.
I think Trump gives himself the most trouble.
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Mittens.
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Meanwhile ... the focus is on impeachment and the Ukraine and we hear very little on what's happening with the 2A. That I believe would be his true death sentence if he does anything to interfere with rights under the 2A.
@libertybele
And there is is.
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Trump has been manipulating politicians for over 50 years. He is light years ahead of the moronic Democommies.
Trump is focusing on the Ukraine because it takes down not only Biden but also Clinton should she decide to run. Clinton conspired with the Ukraine to impede Trump's campaign, used the FBI and perhaps other intelligence agencies, and I am certain all of it was done with Obama's approval. Trump has every right to want all this corruption exposed, and the moronic Dems took the bait.
Suffice to say, all the events unfolding at present will bury the Democommies. Good riddance. They have done nothing for the American people in decades.
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Like a good 2 slice toaster in the morning, with Sanders sipping soup on his deathbed and the Ukraine thing about to blow back on Biden.
Maybe it's just me but I see an important name missing from the list...............Trump.
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I see Warren won, but living here in MA, I find that female voters actually cannot stand here, at least the ones that i run into.
I voted for Biden and Sanders, the only two likable enough with a shot. Although, Hillary could do it since she technically beat Trump in the popular vote.
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I voted for Biden and Sanders, the only two likable enough with a shot. Although, Hillary could do it since she technically beat Trump in the popular vote.
@Weird Tolkienish Figure
Good to see someone is coming out of the closet and admitting to being a communist.
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@Weird Tolkienish Figure
Good to see someone is coming out of the closet and admitting to being a communist.
He was saying he voted for those people in this poll on who will give Trump the most trouble... Why is it you always have to go off the deep end with the insults...
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None of the above. None of those people are going to drag the country down to Hell, that final task will be accomplished by people who call themselves "Republicans."
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None of the above. None of those people are going to drag the country down to Hell, that final task will be accomplished by people who call themselves "Republicans."
@Cyber Liberty
BINGO!
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@Cyber Liberty
BINGO!
@sneakypete
Just take a look around the forum, and all the folks who think it's just grand Pelosi can make up the rules for Impeachment as she's going along. The President isn't above the law, he is well below it, where we hold Star Chambers to decide who gets to lead. A-OK for too many people who were supposed to be smarter than that.
The next President will be one of the Clown Car, because The Deplorables are giving up hope. Trump is just plain icky.
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Elections have consequences, obummer told us that, and though I believe the Trump Campaign 'tried' collusion with the Russians ('late summer would be great for the release of hellary's emails', Don Jr. email after meeting in Trump Tower with a known KGB agent), I also think hellary/DNC actually colluded much worse with Russia, Ukraine and China, in the same time period. With all that being said I don't want Trump impeached because Justice just doesn't seem to matter anymore, particularly if you are a dem.
He survived Mueller, somehow, he'll survive this Impeachment circus and be reelected, IMHO, unless....................
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Elections have consequences, obummer told us that, and though I believe the Trump Campaign 'tried' collusion with the Russians ('late summer would be great for the release of hellary's emails', Don Jr. email after meeting in Trump Tower with a known KGB agent), I also think hellary/DNC actually colluded much worse with Russia, Ukraine and China, in the same time period. With all that being said I don't want Trump impeached because Justice just doesn't seem to matter anymore, particularly if you are a dem.
He survived Mueller, somehow, he'll survive this Impeachment circus and be reelected, IMHO, unless....................
Who gives a crap anymore? If we elect somebody good, the rest will just team up on him and destroy him.
I give up.
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You're just frustrated right now, @Cyber Liberty I understand that BUT know you to be a fighter AND a survivor. Many of us here that are 'perceived' as Trump haters (Nevers) are just as frustrated as you and realize that Trump is the only thing that stands between US and full blown Chaos.
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@Weird Tolkienish Figure
Good to see someone is coming out of the closet and admitting to being a communist.
What? What are you saying here, @sneakypete? He's talking about the poll.
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Elections have consequences, obummer told us that, and though I believe the Trump Campaign 'tried' collusion with the Russians ('late summer would be great for the release of hellary's emails', Don Jr. email after meeting in Trump Tower with a known KGB agent), I also think hellary/DNC actually colluded much worse with Russia, Ukraine and China, in the same time period. With all that being said I don't want Trump impeached because Justice just doesn't seem to matter anymore, particularly if you are a dem.
He survived Mueller, somehow, he'll survive this Impeachment circus and be reelected, IMHO, unless....................
@corbe, it's that kind of stuff that makes it frustrating. Don Jr. did not meet with a known KGB agent. There is no equivalence with the Clinton campaign.
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With all due Respect @Sanguine the emails were damning. Sure the President ditched Don Jr's original statement and wrote his own on advice of counsel and changed it to Russian Baby Adoption, but it doesn't change the facts. I realize this is Donald being Donald, the Wheeler/Dealer NY Real Estate Developer, so early in his Administration. I guess I can swallow that
British-born Goldstone adds in the exchange of 3 June 2016: “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump.â€
Seventeen minutes later, Trump Jr welcomes this with the reply: “If it’s what you say, I love it, especially later in the summer.â€
In a later email, Goldstone describes the Russian lawyer they are due to meet, Natalia Veselnitskaya, as a “Russian government attorneyâ€.
I also believe that Natalia-Veselnitskaya is KGB, unbeknownst, apparently to (Ukraine) Manafort, Kushner and Don, Jr.
(https://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1624546/natalia-veselnitskaya.jpg)
I'm just so cynical these days, and even I had a bright ray of sunshine today, dropped a $100 bill on the floor of Specs Liquor today as I was checking out, they looked at the camera footage and used my membership card info (on file) to call me.
New inspiration I have in my fellow (wo)man. Shout out to Alyssa, yes, I wrote Corporate to toot her horn.
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I'm just so cynical these days, and even I had a bright ray of sunshine today, dropped a $100 bill on the floor of Specs Liquor today as I was checking out, they looked at the camera footage and used my membership card info (on file) to call me.
New inspiration I have in my fellow (wo)man. Shout out to Alyssa, yes, I wrote Corporate to toot her horn.
Hey, cool beans on the Liquor Store!
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@sneakypete
Just take a look around the forum, and all the folks who think it's just grand Pelosi can make up the rules for Impeachment as she's going along. The President isn't above the law, he is well below it, where we hold Star Chambers to decide who gets to lead. A-OK for too many people who were supposed to be smarter than that.
@Cyber Liberty
Most of those people identify themselves as Republicans,but only became the feet of Dims stink,and they don't love Hay-zus!
The Moral Minority.
They hate Trump because he's crude,he has been divorced more than once,AND because he is a Billionaire from NYC.
Doesn't have a single damn thing to do with the job he is doing as President,or the job he will do when he is re-elected. Boil it down to the basics,and the ugly truth is they don't give a damn about America or the survival of America. All they care about are their personal prejudices because it's all about "Me,ME,ME,DAMMIT!"
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Who gives a crap anymore? If we elect somebody good, the rest will just team up on him and destroy him.
@Cyber Liberty
BECAUSE he is good,and his name isn't Bush or one of the usual Party People suspects.
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You're just frustrated right now, @Cyber Liberty I understand that BUT know you to be a fighter AND a survivor. Many of us here that are 'perceived' as Trump haters (Nevers) are just as frustrated as you and realize that Trump is the only thing that stands between US and full blown Chaos.
@corbe
EXACTLY! What kind of fool do you have to be to hold your petty prejudices as being more important than the survival of America as a free nation?
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What? What are you saying here, @sneakypete? He's talking about the poll.
@Sanguine
If he is,I misunderstood his post.
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@corbe
EXACTLY! What kind of fool do you have to be to hold your petty prejudices as being more important than the survival of America as a free nation?
I am obviously less excited than you @sneakypete about the survival of our nation in Trumps hands, but I can acclimate.
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@Mod3 I need a drink. Wanna watch the store for a bit?
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@Sanguine
If he is,I misunderstood his post.
Yes, everyone's a little punchy tonight.
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Sure buddy I was just giving the sneakypete a hard time for his signature.
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I am obviously less excited than you @sneakypete about the survival of our nation in Trumps hands, but I can acclimate.
@corbe
I don't give a damn WHAT any candidates name or background is. If he can and will save America,he has my total support.
Beats the HELL out of fighting a revolution to try to get it back.
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@Mod3 I need a drink. Wanna watch the store for a bit?
@Cyber Liberty
Ruh,roh!
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@Cyber Liberty
Ruh,roh!
Nahh, don't worry about it. Mod8 watches Mod3.... :tongue2:
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Yes, everyone's a little punchy tonight.
Welllll...yeah. A little but. It's the water.
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I haven't seem Mod8 in months I though you banned her
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I haven't seem Mod8 in months I though you banned her
Oh, did I? Hard to keep them straight. We still have her uniform. I've always been a sucker for a gal in uniform.
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I don’t know which candidate, but I can tell you which opponent is the most troublesome: agenda-driven journalists with their thumbs on the scales of truth, fairness and balance.
In other words the lying, democrat-shilling, propagandists in media.
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I don’t know which candidate, but I can tell you which opponent is the most troublesome: agenda-driven journalists with their thumbs on the scales of truth, fairness and balance.
In other words the lying, democrat-shilling, propagandists in media.
The Enemedia we'll always have with us. Just like "the poor."
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The Enemedia we'll always have with us. Just like "the poor."
@Cyber Liberty
Yet they never seem to know or associate with anyone that is poor.
Or even middle-class,unless there is an election going on and they need the votes of the poor and middle-class votes to stay in office
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@Cyber Liberty
Yet they never seem to know or associate with anyone that is poor.
Or even middle-class,unless there is an election going on and they need the votes of the poor and middle-class votes to stay in office
@sneakypete
They pretend to be with "the poor," but we know better because we know them. However, the sheep lap that shit up like a cat will take to a bowl of antifreeze.
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BTW,am I the only one thinking that the candidate most likely to give Trump the most trouble in 2020 is Lindsey Graham?
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BTW,am I the only one thinking that the candidate most likely to give Trump the most trouble in 2020 is Lindsey Graham?
No @sneakypete
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I can't see Grahamnesty running against Trump in the Primaries.
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I can't see Grahamnesty running against Trump in the Primaries.
No one said anything about the primaries :smokin:
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No one said anything about the primaries :smokin:
Good point. Trump has many opponents, not all of them running for President. 888high58888
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@sneakypete
They pretend to be with "the poor," but we know better because we know them. However, the sheep lap that shit up like a cat will take to a bowl of antifreeze.
Take Matt Lauer. At work he was a woke, caring, nice guy on TV, trusted by millions of suburban women, because he cared about women and their issues. Off air he was a creepy, stalking, imposing, #metoo nightmare! And every woman who ever shared a two-shot with him on set knew about him. Yet they happily, cheerily bantered and joked, as they toss the next story over to him.
Yeah, we know them all as liberal hypocrites.
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Take Matt Lauer. At work he was a woke, caring, nice guy on TV, trusted by millions of suburban women, because he cared about women and their issues. Off air he was a creepy, stalking, imposing, #metoo nightmare! And every woman who ever shared a two-shot with him on set knew about him. Yet they happily, cheerily bantered and joked, as they toss the next story over to him.
Yeah, we know them all as liberal hypocrites.
Lauer is a rapist, straight up. He should be in a Russian prison for what he did at the Olympics.
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BTW,am I the only one thinking that the candidate most likely to give Trump the most trouble in 2020 is Lindsey Graham?
@sneakypete
I don't know, but it sure looks like Mittens wants another shot at the job. Ugh!
When these guys are tweeting up a storm or yapping at the cameras about Trump, or any other current matter for that matter, you know they are looking to run for something. There is always an agenda.
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Take Matt Lauer. At work he was a woke, caring, nice guy on TV, trusted by millions of suburban women, because he cared about women and their issues. Off air he was a creepy, stalking, imposing, #metoo nightmare! And every woman who ever shared a two-shot with him on set knew about him. Yet they happily, cheerily bantered and joked, as they toss the next story over to him.
Yeah, we know them all as liberal hypocrites.
@aligncare
True,but the money was good,and the exposure was good for their careers.
They HAD to focus on what was important to them,didn't they?
Notice how the INSTANT the story broke in the news they all came out to complain about him?
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Rudy's name should be on the list
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Rudy's name should be on the list
Rudy might end up in the slammer instead.
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Rudy's name should be on the list
@mystery-ak
Rudy isn't stupid. Even HE knows that no one from NYC will ever be elected as president again.
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I haven't seem Mod8 in months I though you banned her
Just because you don't see the mods,
don't mean they're not after you.
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Rudy might end up in the slammer instead.
For what?
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For what?
Don’t ya know about the latest manufactured nonsense to impeach Trump with—this time through Giuliani?
Oh, yes. The NeverTrumpers have yet another media story (more phony propaganda) for them to latch onto, as they reflexively have with every smear campaign the democrats funnel through their accomplices in the left wing press.
NeverTrumpers are so gullible, which makes them very useful to the Fifth Column.
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This rumor must be addressed: speculation of my early demise is premature, exactly what I'd expect from a bunch of old guys.
I've been doing time on the night shift for having a bad attitude.
I'll be back.
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This rumor must be addressed: speculation of my early demise is premature, exactly what I'd expect from a bunch of old guys.
I've been doing time on the night shift for having a bad attitude.
I'll be back.
Ah! You're back from the Monastery! Good to see you, Brother Eight!
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Ah! You're back from the Monastery! Good to see you, Brother Eight!
I though Mod 8 is a sister. Are you telling me we have trans-mods?
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I though Mod 8 is a sister. Are you telling me we have trans-mods?
Sister? Brother? it is hard to tell.... when we are watching that Russian lesbian porn in the @corbe poll thread on the overnight, @MOD8 always tells us to copy the links and email them to her/him before he/she deletes them...
:shrug:
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I'm not paid enough, actually not at all to put up with this stuff from disgruntled members. Some day this woman will be back on day shift and I am making a list.
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I'm not paid enough, actually not at all to put up with this stuff from disgruntled members. Some day this woman will be back on day shift and I am making a list.
Be careful what you wish for.... during the day shift porn is frowned upon, and all of the dead-enders crawl out from under their rocks....
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You are saying that there might be good lesbian videos link on this thread soon?
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Sergio is the one that's probably putting porn in this Thread. It ain't me.
(https://images.baklol.com/This-Hilarious-Cat0999460221499687219.jpg)
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Sister? Brother? it is hard to tell.... when we are watching that Russian lesbian porn in the @corbe poll thread on the overnight, @MOD8 always tells us to copy the links and email them to her/him before he/she deletes them...
:shrug:
I agree that doesn't nail down the whole binary, cisMale/cisFemale thing very well, does it? Who doesn't appreciate those late nights?
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You are saying that there might be good lesbian videos link on this thread soon?
Could be, with the Free Beer, Tomorrow. 999beer
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Sergio is the one that's probably putting porn in this Thread. It ain't me.
(https://images.baklol.com/This-Hilarious-Cat0999460221499687219.jpg)
You are always being so write my sweet sister corbe! Who could not be saying that those cats are the cutest things?
Seeing at that cute small face in the pies pizza!
I will put new links for you later when Vitaly comes back from studio. You just waiting for us and keep your heals cooled!!