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Title: Scandal, Corruption, Lawbreaking — And So What?...By Victor Davis Hanson
Post by: mystery-ak on February 13, 2018, 05:50:07 pm
 Scandal, Corruption, Lawbreaking — And So What?
What is the endgame to never-ending wrongdoing?
By Victor Davis Hanson — February 13, 2018

The FISA-gate, Clinton emails, and Uranium One scandals are sort of reaching a consensus. Many things quite wrong and illegal were done by both Hillary Clinton and her entourage and members of the Obama agencies and administration — both the acts themselves and the cover-ups and omissions that ensued.

Remember, in the FISA-gate scandal such likely widespread criminal behavior was predicated on two premises: 1) certainty of an easy Clinton victory, after which the miscreants would be not only excused but probably rewarded for their zeal; 2) progressive hubris in which our supposedly moral betters felt it their right, indeed their duty, to use unethical and even unlawful means for the “greater good” — to achieve their self-described moral ends of stopping the crude and reactionary Trump.

The wrongdoing probably includes attempting to warp a U.S. election, Russian collusion, repeatedly misleading and lying before the FISA courts, improperly surveilling American citizens, unmasking the names of citizens swept up in unlawful surveillance and then illegally leaking them to the press, disseminating and authenticating opposition smears during a political campaign, lying under oath to Congress, obstructing ongoing investigations, using federal funds to purchase ad hominem gossip against a presidential candidate, blatant conflicts of interests, weaponizing federal investigations, trafficking in and leaking classified information . . . The list goes on and on.

more
http://www.nationalreview.com/node/456354/print (http://www.nationalreview.com/node/456354/print)
Title: Re: Scandal, Corruption, Lawbreaking — And So What?...By Victor Davis Hanson
Post by: mystery-ak on February 13, 2018, 05:50:29 pm
Rush discussing this now
Title: Re: Scandal, Corruption, Lawbreaking — And So What?...By Victor Davis Hanson
Post by: Bigun on February 13, 2018, 06:12:48 pm
I keep patiently waiting for something to be done about this crap.  Perhaps I'm just a sentimental old fool who wants his country back!
Title: Re: Scandal, Corruption, Lawbreaking — And So What?...By Victor Davis Hanson
Post by: truth_seeker on February 13, 2018, 06:25:10 pm
https://www.huntingtontheatre.org/articles/Now-Or-Later/Top-Ten-US-Political-Scandals/ (https://www.huntingtontheatre.org/articles/Now-Or-Later/Top-Ten-US-Political-Scandals/)

...according to this article....

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4. Iran-Contra

Iran-Contra is one of the biggest scandals to rock the presidency in modern times. When news that the Reagan administration was not only selling arms to Iran but using the profits to secretly fund the Contra rebels in Nicaragua, whom Congress had forbid the President from giving assistance too, the story caused a firestorm throughout the country. Admiral John M. Poindexter and Lt. Colonel Oliver North became the major targets of the scandal and became embroiled in lengthy trials and originally convicted for their roles although these convictions were later released on appeal, among fourteen other persons charged criminally in the whole affair. The scandal continues to be a black mark upon the Reagan presidency for many.

3. Teapot Dome

The Teapot Dome scandal of the Warren G. Harding administration has long been one of the poster boys of the world of presidential scandals. Harding transferred control of naval oil reserve lands over to the Department of the Interior in 1921 (although it was later reversed by the Supreme Court, who ruled the move illegal). Then Secretary of the Interior Albert B. Fall used his new power for personal gain, giving rights to the Teapot Dome Reserve in Wyoming to the Mammoth Oil company in return for bribes. When the scandal broke in 1924 he was found to have accumulated over $100,000 worth of bribes from the Mammoth Oil Company, among others. Although Harding had already died in office prior to the scandal breaking, it became a hot topic of controversy for years after his death and continues to plague his now infamous legacy.

2. Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky

Perhaps no other scandal in presidential history can equal the Monica Lewinsky affair for pure sensationalism and absurdity. President Bill Clinton's sexual affair with an intern ultimately led to the second presidential impeachment in the history of the country (the first was that of Andrew Johnson in 1868). Although Clinton was ultimately acquitted of any crime, the affair became a laughing stock around the world and led to one of the most unusual documents in political history: the Starr Report, which intimately and often graphically described Clinton's entire sexual relationship with Monica Lewinsy.

1. Watergate

There may be many scandals in the annals of United States presidential history, but none can compare for sheer impact with that of the Watergate scandal under the presidency of Richard M. Nixon. Beginning with a break-in at the Democratic headquarters stationed in the Watergate Hotel in Washington, D.C. by five members of Nixon's re-election campaign. Although not initially involved Nixon found out about the break-in and did everything he did to cover up the scandal. When he was ultimately found out the news shocked the nation and led to a grand disillusionment with the American political system. It has also led to just about every subsequent presidential scandal, both large and small, gaining the suffix "gate." (I.E. Whitewatergate, Monicagate, Plamegate, etc.)"
Title: Re: Scandal, Corruption, Lawbreaking — And So What?...By Victor Davis Hanson
Post by: aligncare on February 13, 2018, 06:34:47 pm
The greatest scandal, Watergate?

Watergate? Really?

That’s hugely underwhelming!!!

Where the heck is Benghazi? Oh, that’s right, Obama/Clinton. Nothing to see here, move along.
Title: Re: Scandal, Corruption, Lawbreaking — And So What?...By Victor Davis Hanson
Post by: anubias on February 13, 2018, 06:39:13 pm
Examples must be made.  There should be no “calling it off for the country’s sake”, but a vigorous prosecution of the players involved.
Title: Re: Scandal, Corruption, Lawbreaking — And So What?...By Victor Davis Hanson
Post by: Bigun on February 13, 2018, 06:46:36 pm
Examples must be made.  There should be no “calling it off for the country’s sake”, but a vigorous prosecution of the players involved.

 :amen:  Patiently waiting!
Title: Re: Scandal, Corruption, Lawbreaking — And So What?...By Victor Davis Hanson
Post by: INVAR on February 13, 2018, 07:03:54 pm
Examples must be made.  There should be no “calling it off for the country’s sake”, but a vigorous prosecution of the players involved.

None of the "watchmen" who swore oaths to uphold the rule of law and the Constitution have any intention of pursuing any kind of vigorous prosecution of the Deep State corruptocrats involved in this treason and coup.

Anymore than the Republicans had any intention of stopping ObamaCare, cutting spending or ending illegal immigration.
Title: Re: Scandal, Corruption, Lawbreaking — And So What?...By Victor Davis Hanson
Post by: Sanguine on February 13, 2018, 08:29:02 pm
From the article:

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Accepting any of these obfuscations would be a grave mistake.
Title: Re: Scandal, Corruption, Lawbreaking — And So What?...By Victor Davis Hanson
Post by: INVAR on February 13, 2018, 09:21:38 pm
From the article: "Accepting any of these obfuscations would be a grave mistake."

It will be more than just accepting obfuscations that protect the Oligarchy, the Clintons, Obamas and the Deep State - it will be set as a permissible precedent, and it will become just another accepted way that D.C. works.

But I repeat - there will be NO ONE who takes the risk to actually do something substantial and meaningful to the key protagonists in these corrupt plots.

No one will be willing to risk what will be required.

No politician is willing to die to uphold the rule of law.