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New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged in prostitution ring: report
By Rachel Frazin - 02/22/19 12:04 PM EST
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New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged in prostitution ring: report
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Robert Kraft, long-time friend of President Trump and owner of the New England Patriots, is being charged in a prostitution ring, according to a Boston CBS affiliate.
Two instances involving Kraft were caught on video police in Jupiter, Fla., reportedly said. He is one of 25 people who reportedly facing charges.
DEVELOPING...
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/431148-new-england-patriots-owner-to-be-charged-in-prostitution-ring
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You know there's only one reason they are going after Kraft........his friendship with Trump.
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The owner of the Super Bowl champion New England Patriots, Robert Kraft, is being criminally charged with soliciting prostitution at a spa in Florida, where surveillance video showed him receiving sexual services, police said Friday.
Kraft, 77, is one of more than two dozen people being charged in a police sting in Florida as part of a probe of human trafficking, authorities in Jupiter, Fla. said.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/02/22/new-england-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prostitution.html (https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/02/22/new-england-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prostitution.html)
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His wife died, he's 77 years-old and widowed, what's the big frickin' deal?
So now being caught with a Prostitute is "being involved with a prostitution ring"?
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So now being a plain old "John" is akin to being involved in "Human Trafficking Ring"?
You know the only reason the press is going to go to town on this, is because of Kraft's friendship with President Trump.
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His wife died, he's 77 years-old and widowed, what's the big frickin' deal?
So now being caught with a Prostitute is "being involved with a prostitution ring"?
77 and still likes taking ol' One-Eye to the optometrist. They should give this guy a medal not an arrest.
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Well that will bump Jussie off the news.
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Looks like it was a sex trafficking ring.
Perry Russom NBC 10 Boston
@PerryNBCBoston
Martin County Sheriff says the women involved in human trafficking ring were given no days off. They averaged about 1,500 men a year. He says their hygiene was “minimal†at best @NBC10Boston
This guy is worth six billion and he couldn’t find a high-class “escort?â€
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Well that will bump Jussie off the news.
Rich friend of Trump with a hooker vs New info on Fake hate crime.
What ever will the MSM lead with and devote the news cycle to? HMmmmmm
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His wife died, he's 77 years-old and widowed, what's the big frickin' deal?
So now being caught with a Prostitute is "being involved with a prostitution ring"?
In this day and age, especially after the charging of the executives at Backpage, there’s no way you don’t know you’re supporting trafficking. That’s especially true, when the women were identified as foreign. Perhaps he thought they were OK, because they did not have faces covered with duct tape.
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In this day and age, especially after the charging of the executives at Backpage, there’s no way you don’t know you’re supporting trafficking. That’s especially true, when the women were identified as foreign. Perhaps he thought they were OK, because they did not have faces covered with duct tape.
Can someone fill me in on what the "faces covered w/ ducktape" part means... if sensitive pm me instead... I don't understand that part... not sure I want to, but I am curious.
Thanks
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You know there's only one reason they are going after Kraft........his friendship with Trump.
Oh, gimme a break.
The NFL has ways of getting rid of bad eggs. The Super Bowl was one of the least-watched championships in a decade, even in a year when ratings were up for the rest of the league's games. If you want to start getting into conspiracy stuff, placating an audience bored with the Patriots dynasty makes a whole lot more sense than "tHeY hAtE TRUMP!!!1" Lots of NFL owners are Republicans. Many of them likely voted for Trump. Most of the ones that still hold a grudge over the USFL are gone by this point, or close to it.
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Can someone fill me in on what the "faces covered w/ ducktape" part means... if sensitive pm me instead... I don't understand that part... not sure I want to, but I am curious.
Thanks
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/427018-trump-goes-on-ad-libbed-riff-on-human-trafficking
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Oh, gimme a break.
The NFL has ways of getting rid of bad eggs. The Super Bowl was one of the least-watched championships in a decade, even in a year when ratings were up for the rest of the league's games. If you want to start getting into conspiracy stuff, placating an audience bored with the Patriots dynasty makes a whole lot more sense than "tHeY hAtE TRUMP!!!1" Lots of NFL owners are Republicans. Many of them likely voted for Trump. Most of the ones that still hold a grudge over the USFL are gone by this point, or close to it.
I've already seen more than one headline saying something like "Trump Friend Robert Kraft Charged in Prostitution Ring"
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Adam Schefter said on ESPN that Kraft isn’t the most famous person — there’s someone else whose name hasn’t surfaced yet who’s better known than Kraft.
“I’m also told that Robert Kraft is not the biggest name involved down there in South Florida,†Schefter said.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/22/report-robert-kraft-is-not-the-biggest-name-involved-in-prostitution-case/
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Adam Schefter said on ESPN that Kraft isn’t the most famous person — there’s someone else whose name hasn’t surfaced yet who’s better known than Kraft.
“I’m also told that Robert Kraft is not the biggest name involved down there in South Florida,†Schefter said.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/22/report-robert-kraft-is-not-the-biggest-name-involved-in-prostitution-case/
This is what happens when you get your hookers at a strip mall.
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The franchise of the antithesis of morality gets to chalk up another one....
https://www.khou.com/article/news/nation-world/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prostitution/285-8a3aec69-68a9-4fd5-ba0b-92c6bb7a2ffb (https://www.khou.com/article/news/nation-world/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prostitution/285-8a3aec69-68a9-4fd5-ba0b-92c6bb7a2ffb)
Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged with soliciting prostitution
Police said they secretly planted undercover cameras in targeted massage parlors and videotaped the interactions between men and the female employees........
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The franchise of the antithesis of morality gets to chalk up another one....
https://www.khou.com/article/news/nation-world/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prostitution/285-8a3aec69-68a9-4fd5-ba0b-92c6bb7a2ffb (https://www.khou.com/article/news/nation-world/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prostitution/285-8a3aec69-68a9-4fd5-ba0b-92c6bb7a2ffb)
Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged with soliciting prostitution
Police said they secretly planted undercover cameras in targeted massage parlors and videotaped the interactions between men and the female employees........
Of course, they simply could have closed down the place and arrested the owners months ago....but NOOOOOOOOOO!
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Of course, they simply could have closed down the place and arrested the owners months ago....but NOOOOOOOOOO!
True dat. But this is a helluva lot more fun to watch.
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“I’m also told that Robert Kraft is not the biggest name involved down there in South Florida,†Schefter said.[/i]
LMAO if it's Tom Brady.
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LMAO if it's Tom Brady.
Given the area, I’m guessing it is a well-known PGA Tour player who has had previous issues with the ‘service’ industry.
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Looks like it was a sex trafficking ring.
@QueenCatofAragon
Two cousins renting it out on weekends looks like a sex-trafficking ring to a publicity-hungry DA looking for a job as a congressman.
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Schefter clarified that when he was talking about Kraft on ESPN earlier in the day, there were only 25 people named in the police report so far and that it is his understanding that there are up to 200 names in total involved in the investigation.
https://ntknetwork.com/report-200-people-involved-in-florida-prostitution-sting-prominent-members-of-society/
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His gal pal isn't going to be too happy about this.
(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/476415485-e1453587149684.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=1024)
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His gal pal isn't going to be too happy about this.
She must not have been rocking his world.
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His gal pal isn't going to be too happy about this.
(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/476415485-e1453587149684.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=1024)
Is that the one he did that audition tape with?
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You know there's only one reason they are going after Kraft........his friendship with Trump.
Supposedly, there are a lot more than the 25 we know about and some other names that are recognizable, aside from Kraft. Let’s just say, for the sake of argument, they are going after Kraft for his association with Trump. Bob Kraft, Roy Cohn, Jeffrey Epstein, Roger Stone, and Bill Clinton. These are all Trump associates, who have weird sexual proclivities. Imagine his dumb luck to have had all these pervs in his orbit.
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His wife died, he's 77 years-old and widowed, what's the big frickin' deal?
So now being caught with a Prostitute is "being involved with a prostitution ring"?
No victim, no crime. If it is a personal arrangement with two people and sex trafficking isn't involved, then it shouldn't be a crime.
It is funny how, if he just picked up a young woman for a date, wined and dined her, maybe bought her a $2000 purse that she could flip the next day at a pawn shop, and happened to get some action, it would just be a 'date'.
Maybe they need to do like the Pachinko machines in Tokyo and not actually exchange money but tokens that you can take down the street and 'sell back'.
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His gal pal isn't going to be too happy about this.
(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/476415485-e1453587149684.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=1024)
@LadyLiberty
For all we know she might be grateful for someone else taking a load off of her.
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I know someone that has a massage business. Let's just say that asking for a happy ending is very common....almost expected.
I'm not sure that some "legit" massage places even offer it to loyal customers who are big tippers.
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Supposedly, there are a lot more than the 25 we know about and some other names that are recognizable, aside from Kraft. Let’s just say, for the sake of argument, they are going after Kraft for his association with Trump. Bob Kraft, Roy Cohn, Jeffrey Epstein, Roger Stone, and Bill Clinton. These are all Trump associates, who have weird sexual proclivities. Imagine his dumb luck to have had all these pervs in his orbit.
@edpc
I don't know about the others,but the left is NOT going to go after Ray Chhn. He's a homo. They are not going after Bubba,either.
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@edpc
but the left is NOT going to go after Ray Chhn. He's a homo.
He's dead, too.
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She must not have been rocking his world.
@The Ghost
BTW,if that is his girlfriend,she was reported to be 39 years old in another story. He is 77,so that ain't a love match,anyway.
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@edpc
I don't know about the others,but the left is NOT going to go after Ray Cohn. He's a homo. They are not going after Bubba,either.
As gator pointed out Cohn is dead - unsurprisingly - from AIDS. However, according to Roger Stone, he was not gay.
"Roy was not gay. He was a man who liked having sex with men.â€
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/06/02/the-dirty-trickster (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/06/02/the-dirty-trickster)
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As gator pointed out Cohn is dead - unsurprisingly - from AIDS. However, according to Roger Stone, he was not gay.
"Roy was not gay. He was a man who liked having sex with men.â€
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/06/02/the-dirty-trickster (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/06/02/the-dirty-trickster)
(https://media1.fdncms.com/metrotimes/imager/u/original/19513085/fa1e9505-0a32-4a26-8807-7caa4f684179_816911_tablet_landscape_large_16_9.jpg)
"You either .... .... or you do not .... ...., there is no in-between."
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"You either .... .... or you do not .... ...., there is no in-between."
That is it, shall we say, in a nut shell.
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This is what happens when you get your hookers at a strip mall.
He went to Jupiter, Florida, to a sketchy Chinese massage parlor, when he had no business-related reason to be in Florida at the time. (The Patriots' last game against a Florida opponent was December 9, 2018, a month before this incident happened.) Meaning he most likely personally went out of his way to solicit from this particular parlor.
So if this was a sex slavery ring, and he went through that much trouble to solicit from this particular parlor way out of his normal path...
...yeah, this guy is in deep doodoo.
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No victim, no crime. If it is a personal arrangement with two people and sex trafficking isn't involved, then it shouldn't be a crime.
It is funny how, if he just picked up a young woman for a date, wined and dined her, maybe bought her a $2000 purse that she could flip the next day at a pawn shop, and happened to get some action, it would just be a 'date'.
Maybe they need to do like the Pachinko machines in Tokyo and not actually exchange money but tokens that you can take down the street and 'sell back'.
That's the thing, though. It looks like sex trafficking was involved. That's what makes this so serious.
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Of course, they simply could have closed down the place and arrested the owners months ago....but NOOOOOOOOOO!
Generally, when they have a sting on this type of place, there’s much more than just prostitution going on. Typically, they also have narcotics and money laundering activities. Most likely, they watched the place to expand the net of potential charges and get a sense of the personnel hierarchy.
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Looks like it was a sex trafficking ring.
Perry Russom NBC 10 Boston
@PerryNBCBoston
Martin County Sheriff says the women involved in human trafficking ring were given no days off. They averaged about 1,500 men a year. He says their hygiene was “minimal†at best @NBC10Boston
This guy is worth six billion and he couldn’t find a high-class “escort?â€
There's the salient question, isn't it?
Why would a guy worth millions consort with trafficked girls and risk his own life and promote the sex trade?
Incredibly reckless and stupid.
As well as promoting one of the worst crimes in the country.
I'm sure there are plenty of gold diggers who would be happy to service him, just because he's rich and famous.
Stupid. Irresponsible. **nononono*
@QueenCatofAragon
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No victim, no crime. If it is a personal arrangement with two people and sex trafficking isn't involved, then it shouldn't be a crime.
It is funny how, if he just picked up a young woman for a date, wined and dined her, maybe bought her a $2000 purse that she could flip the next day at a pawn shop, and happened to get some action, it would just be a 'date'.
Maybe they need to do like the Pachinko machines in Tokyo and not actually exchange money but tokens that you can take down the street and 'sell back'.
So how exactly do you know if these "professional sex workers" were or were not trafficked as children or teenagers.
Many pros were, you know.
This is not a "victimless" crime.
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Hope this story has a happy ending.
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This story calls for Chris Hanson.
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Looks like it was a sex trafficking ring.
Perry Russom NBC 10 Boston
@PerryNBCBoston
Martin County Sheriff says the women involved in human trafficking ring were given no days off. They averaged about 1,500 men a year. He says their hygiene was “minimal†at best @NBC10Boston
This guy is worth six billion and he couldn’t find a high-class “escort?â€
@QueenCatofAragon
Exactly. Guys like this don't hire 'prostitutes' in the usual sense of the word. They hire maids, nurses, personal assistants, personal secretary, therapists, or any number of other 'cover jobs' for whatever services they provide. I have never known a millionaire who did not have a few beautiful 20 year olds working for him, all with various titles and dubious qualifications. That is simply the accepted culture on that stratum of society. He had no need to pick up skanks off of some street corner.
Also, he could easily go to Belize or any number of other countries and hire dozens of house servents to do whatever he wants. The whole story really makes no sense at all.
I cannot understand this. It makes no sense. He is supposed to have people working for him to protect him from nonsense like this.
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I cannot understand this. It makes no sense. He is supposed to have people working for him to protect him from nonsense like this.
Sometimes, people think they can do whatever they want, whether it’s due to wealth or power. Look at guys like Clinton and Spitzer.
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Sometimes, people think they can do whatever they want, whether it’s due to wealth or power. Look at guys like Clinton and Spitzer.
Add algore to that list, whose "adult entertainment" code word was Mr. Stone.
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Add algore to that list, whose "adult entertainment" code word was Mr. Stone.
I figured it would be "Mr. Wood".
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Hope this story has a happy ending.
@rustynail
LOL! Good one!
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Hope this story has a happy ending.
I must admit I was rather deflated when I first heard the news.
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This story calls for Chris Hanson.
He's having his own legal problems (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/catch-predator-host-chris-hansen-arrested-over-13-000-bounced-n959471).
Meanwhile:Second Boston billionaire linked to Florida prostitution ring
By Amanda Woods
February 23, 2019 | 12:09pm
The billionaire founder of a Boston-based equity firm joins Patriots owner Robert Kraft as one of the ultra-rich caught up in the months-long police probe of Florida massage parlors, authorities said.
John Childs, 77 — of J.W. Childs Associates — is wanted on a solicitation of prostitution charge, according to a warrant for his arrest obtained by TCPalm.com. He has not been arrested.
Childs firmly denied any involvement in the ring. ...
Childs, who lives seasonally in Indian River Shores and lives part-time in Boston, has donated to several Republican politicians and groups — including former US House Speaker Paul Ryan, 2012 presidential candidate Mitt Romney and Club for Growth, TCPalm.com reported.
He’s contributed about $4.3 million to Republican candidates — as well as political action committees — last cycle, campaign finance records obtained by the outlet show. ...
NY Post (https://nypost.com/2019/02/23/second-boston-billionaire-linked-to-florida-prostitution-ring/)
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Childs donated to the club for ‘growth,’ alright.....
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Childs donated to the club for growth, alright.....
:silly:
Up there with Steve Martin's charity to give a start to unwed mothers.
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A nice little shot across the bows of Milt and Pauli, too ??
Or just a nice head fake?
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A nice little shot across the bows of Milt and Pauli, too ??
Or just a nice head fake?
Since he was 77, I doubt there was anything fake about it.
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He went to Jupiter, Florida, to a sketchy Chinese massage parlor, when he had no business-related reason to be in Florida at the time. (The Patriots' last game against a Florida opponent was December 9, 2018, a month before this incident happened.) Meaning he most likely personally went out of his way to solicit from this particular parlor.
So if this was a sex slavery ring, and he went through that much trouble to solicit from this particular parlor way out of his normal path...
...yeah, this guy is in deep doodoo.
@jmyrlefuller
It’s crazy, it just doesn’t make sense.
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They arrested scads of "johns," but have released the names of just three or four (now including the 29-year-old boyfriend of pro golfer Jessica Korda). I find that curious.
Edit to add: I take it back. Here are a few more names: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0BjAdVWkAIpQmF.jpg
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@jmyrlefuller
It’s crazy, it just doesn’t make sense.
@QueenCatofAragon
He had a craving for a little Chinese,and that's not really all that easy to find in America. Yeah,he could have hired a couple of Chinese women as sort sort of domestic help,but at his age he had no interest in buying if he could rent.
What makes no sense is the freaking government arresting the customers for crimes committed by the business they are visiting. If you go to a gas station to get new tires put on your car and the cops discover the gas station owner was selling stolen tires,do they lock you up as an associate because you bought the tires they were selling?
Don't get me wrong. I have no trouble whatsoever accepting life sentences for the people who enslave your girls and women (as well as an occasional young boy or man) and sell them as sex outlets. I could even stand up and cheer if one got a death penalty occasionally. That doesn't mean their customers were at fault,though. That is guilt by association.
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@QueenCatofAragon
He had a craving for a little Chinese,and that's not really all that easy to find in America. Yeah,he could have hired a couple of Chinese women as sort sort of domestic help,but at his age he had no interest in buying if he could rent.
Chinese women are not easy to find in America? Really? That's crazy talk, especially for a man with his money. There are millions of Chinese people in California and in NY. Also, there are thousands of Chinese models in America. He could have requested a 'date' with any one of them until one of them agrees to his request.
Furthermore, he could go anywhere in Asia and request Chinese prostitutes with no problem. In Asia, prostitution is legal and it is a major business. Or, simply go to Hong Kong where there are very few rules about this sort of thing.
No. I'm not buying any of this. It make absolutely no sense for this guy to be going to the very same 'message parlor' that street people, sailors, and alcoholics are going to. I simply cannot wrap my brain around it. On the one hand he has a $1500 lunch, then he tops it off with having his limo driver take him to a $50 whore which he has to 'wait in line' for? It makes no sense.
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Chinese women are not easy to find in America? Really? That's crazy talk, especially for a man with his money. There are millions of Chinese people in California and in NY. Also, there are thousands of Chinese models in America. He could have requested a 'date' with any one of them until one of them agrees to his request.
Furthermore, he could go anywhere in Asia and request Chinese prostitutes with no problem. In Asia, prostitution is legal and it is a major business. Or, simply go to Hong Kong where there are very few rules about this sort of thing.
No. I'm not buying any of this. It make absolutely no sense for this guy to be going to the very same 'message parlor' that street people, sailors, and alcoholics are going to. I simply cannot wrap my brain around it. On the one hand he has a $1500 lunch, then he tops it off with having his limo driver take him to a $50 whore which he has to 'wait in line' for? It makes no sense.
@240B
Yeah,but he was already in Flori-duh when he had the urge,and they weren't. Local "talent" seemed to be the good answer to a temporary problem. Don't forget,the guy is 77.
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@sneakypete
You go to a massage parlor and tell them what you want. They give you a number and tell you to wait in the lobby until you are called. You look at the number and it is 213 and it is only 2pm. That is bad MoJo man. Can't see a billionaire going to a place like that under any circumstances. Hell, I wouldn't go to a place like that, and I am far from being a billionaire.
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@sneakypete
You go to a massage parlor and tell them what you want. They give you a number and tell you to wait in the lobby until you are called. You look at the number and it is 213 and it is only 2pm. That is bad MoJo man. Can't see a billionaire going to a place like that under any circumstances. Hell, I wouldn't go to a place like that, and I am far from being a billionaire.
Unless he was funding the operation.
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I doubt he had to wait. With his money, he would go to the HEAD of the line.
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This story just doesn't add up.
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On the afternoon of the January 19, the cameras show Kraft visited the spa and paid for services in cash at the front desk, and he was then taken to a massage room, undressed and lay on a massage bed. A female employee can be seen on the video manipulating his genitals and later wiping Kraft's genitals with a towel.
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The next day, Kraft returned to the spa at about 10:59 a.m. and again undressed and lay face up on a massage table, the affidavit states. There, a woman began manipulating his genitals and then put her head down by his genitals, the affidavit states. After a few minutes, the woman used a towel to wipe Kraft near his genitals, the affidavit says.
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/02/25/us/robert-kraft-solicitation/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F (https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/02/25/us/robert-kraft-solicitation/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F)
I think it’s safe to say if he pleads out and throws in the ‘towel,’ nobody will want to touch it.
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@jmyrlefuller
It’s crazy, it just doesn’t make sense.
It doesn't to me either, @QueenCatofAragon . Why would man with his cash and public recognition go to such a public place? Why not have them come to a private (or rented) place. The only thing I can think of is that he is stupid...or think he is above the law....or a combination of the two.
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It doesn't to me either, @QueenCatofAragon . Why would man with his cash and public recognition go to such a public place? Why not have them come to a private (or rented) place. The only thing I can think of is that he is stupid...or think he is above the law....or a combination of the two.
@berdie
IF he even thought about it,he most likely figured that away from a football field where there is a link,nobody living their normal lives would even recognize him.
Hell,I wouldn't know who he is if he told me and showed me his ID.
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@berdie
IF he even thought about it,he most likely figured that away from a football field where there is a link,nobody living their normal lives would even recognize him.
Hell,I wouldn't know who he is if he told me and showed me his ID.
That's true. @sneakypete . Nor would I. It just seems more convenient, if I had his bucks, to have them come to him. But what do I know :shrug:
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It doesn't to me either, @QueenCatofAragon . Why would man with his cash and public recognition go to such a public place? Why not have them come to a private (or rented) place. The only thing I can think of is that he is stupid...or think he is above the law....or a combination of the two.
Most likely, it’s because he’s very wealthy, has enjoyed unparalleled success as a sports franchise owner, and felt invincible (I almost said untouchable). How many times have you seen chauffeured Bentleys at a strip mall?
He was driven away in the front passenger seat of a white, 2014 Bentley that was later pulled over by a cop who identified Kraft as the passenger, court papers say.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/25/robert-kraft-paid-for-sex-hours-before-afc-championship-court-papers/amp/
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Most likely, it’s because he’s very wealthy, has enjoyed unparalleled success as a sports franchise owner, and felt invincible (I almost said untouchable). How many times have you seen chauffeured Bentleys at a strip mall?
He was driven away in the front passenger seat of a white, 2014 Bentley that was later pulled over by a cop who identified Kraft as the passenger, court papers say.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/25/robert-kraft-paid-for-sex-hours-before-afc-championship-court-papers/amp/
A white Bentley with a driver....my dream. LOL
Something is wrong with the guy, more than wanting to go to a strip mall for hookers. He's a kook.
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That's true. @sneakypete . Nor would I. It just seems more convenient, if I had his bucks, to have them come to him. But what do I know :shrug:
@berdie
I am thinking that there is less danger of blackmail if you go to them. And,if you are out of town when you suddenly develop an appetite for a "little Chinese",the only way to stay anonymous is to go to them.
Besides,I think all the big web sites that offered up menus you could order from were shut down by our government a year or so ago. Not only shut down,but the mama's boys in the feral government took the owners to feral court for conspiracy to commit crimes using the airwaves,or some such stupid crap that gave them the "in" they needed to make a RICO Act charge stick.
Don't you feel safer already?
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A white Bentley with a driver....my dream. LOL
Something is wrong with the guy, more than wanting to go to a strip mall for hookers. He's a kook.
I expect his counsel will attempt the bereaved widower defense.
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I am thinking that there is less danger of blackmail if you go to them. And,if you are out of town when you suddenly develop an appetite for a "little Chinese",the only way to stay anonymous is to go to them.
Besides, I think all the big web sites that offered up menus you could order from were shut down by our government a year or so ago. Not only shut down,but the mama's boys in the feral government took the owners to feral court for conspiracy to commit crimes using the airwaves,or some such stupid crap that gave them the "in" they needed to make a RICO Act charge stick.
Don't you feel safer already?
Would you like to take a guess which momma's boy signed the FOSTA-SESTA law last March? The website was seized and the owners' homes were raided within a week of enactment.
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Would you like to take a guess which momma's boy signed the FOSTA-SESTA law last March? The website was seized and the owners' homes were raided within a week of enactment.
@edpc
I wouldn't even know where to begin. The list of suspects is virtually endless.
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@edpc
I wouldn't even know where to begin. The list of suspects is virtually endless.
I'll give you a hint: He's the only person allowed to sign a bill into law, per the Constitution.
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Something is wrong with the guy, more than wanting to go to a strip mall for hookers. He's a kook.
If he really did this, he deserves to be arrested and charged. Forget about paying a Chinese masseuse for a 'happy ending', a "crime" which is as old as humans have been on Earth, btw. That's nothing.
If he really is that freaking dense, he should be arrested and charged with "gross stupidity", and confined for his own good. He may have dementia or some other mental condition which prevents him from making normal rational decisions.
But even that doesn't explain why his entourage, or even his chauffeur, did not warn him that he was making a HUGE mistake. And that there are a million other ways to do the exact same thing in an infinitely safer and more discrete way.
I hope he had a condom. In fact, that would be a bodysuit condom situation. Each woman did ~1500 random guys per year. If he did it, he just became an intimate blood brother with thousands of random guys. And, these are guys who would go to a hooker in a strip mall. lol Not the cream of the crop, I would imagine.
Since this story is out, I doubt very much he will get many girls to be his 'personal assistant' in the future. There is no way to tell how many STDs he picked up. At the very minimum he certainly got HPV among whatever else.
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If he really did this, he deserves to be arrested and charged. Forget about paying a Chinese masseuse for a 'happy ending', a "crime" which is as old as humans have been on Earth, btw. That's nothing.
You're assuming this person was a willing participant in this activity. Many times, they're not, especially if they're foreigners. In all probability, they're being exploited and abused, as was the case in this Columbus OH bust a few years ago.
https://www.10tv.com/article/2-arrested-massage-parlor-raids-across-central-ohio (https://www.10tv.com/article/2-arrested-massage-parlor-raids-across-central-ohio)
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000hehehehe
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I'll give you a hint: He's the only person allowed to sign a bill into law, per the Constitution.
@edpc
Was it a stand-alone bill,or a part of a larger bill?
Are you EVER going to quit whining like a little bitch because Trump was elected instead of one of your RINO heroes?
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@edpc
Was it a stand-alone bill,or a part of a larger bill?
FOSTA and SESTA were bills combined by the House and Senate, then presented as a stand-alone bill, which was signed on April 11, 2018.
Are you EVER going to quit whining like a little bitch because Trump was elected instead of one of your RINO heroes?
I dunno.....are you EVER going to learn how search engines work and stop embarrassing yourself?
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@berdie IF he even thought about it,he most likely figured that away from a football field where there is a link,nobody living their normal lives would even recognize him. Hell,I wouldn't know who he is if he told me and showed me his ID.
@sneakypete
@mystery-ak
Let's consider these happenings according to body function:
First, sex is a normal function of a human body. It is not "dirty", "nasty", etc. It is there to reproduce plus the act releases complete tension in the body at the time of the orgasm. That is what both of them want. That act also keeps a couple together as each knows the other in such a private way.
I think if a man wants to have sex and a woman wants to charge him money for having sex, fine, it's only their business - not law enforcement's business. There is also this truth: when men are with women, at some point, there will be sex between them.
Now, if women are being held against their will and forced to have sex with men, raid the place and stop it. If that is what is happened here, shut it down and help the women find another way to live.
Kraft is 77, he is most likely impotent, cannot have an erection. He still has a want/need to have an orgasm, all people would as that is built into their genes to have sex. It is easier for a man to have an orgasm than women. I did couple counseling for many years, and heard their stories of that part of their lives. It was usually the woman who was not satisfied with their sex life.
So, Kraft went to this place to have an orgasm. The first film evidently shows the woman used her hands on his genitals, mainly the penis, to bring him to an orgasm.
He must have had an orgasm or he would not have gone there the second time.
His second time going there, the film evidently shows she used her mouth on the penis to bring him to orgasm. He used money to get the organism and he had it both times.
He likely would not know if any/some/all of the women were there against their will. He was unfortunate to have gone to this one where law enforcement was doing a sting operation with cameras there. He will be more careful from now on if he goes to another one.
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@Victoria33
Thanks for the visual and for ruining this product forever.
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You're assuming this person was a willing participant in this activity. Many times, they're not, especially if they're foreigners. In all probability, they're being exploited and abused, as was the case in this Columbus OH bust a few years ago.
https://www.10tv.com/article/2-arrested-massage-parlor-raids-across-central-ohio (https://www.10tv.com/article/2-arrested-massage-parlor-raids-across-central-ohio)
Anyone........... that is ANYONE............. who claims that this is a "victimless" crime and no big deal is completely ignorant of what actually goes on with sex trafficking. Making the assumption that these women are willingly allowing themselves to be degraded by multiple men daily, and came to the decision on their own that they would pursue this "occupation," is shutting ones eyes to the statistics and reality of what pimps do to snatch up teenagers, many just runaways, some in other countries from orphanages, and sell them into slavery.
If those stolen children happen to continue the abusive lifestyle they were forced into after they become adults, they are still victims.
And as you have said, in this case with Chinese women, they are almost certainly enslaved.
I would recommend that some of the men on this forum do a little research before glibly responding that this is no big deal.
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Anyone........... that is ANYONE............. who claims that this is a "victimless" crime and no big deal is completely ignorant of what actually goes on with sex trafficking. Making the assumption that these women are willingly allowing themselves to be degraded by multiple men daily, and came to the decision on their own that they would pursue this "occupation," is shutting ones eyes to the statistics and reality of what pimps do to snatch up teenagers, many just runaways, some in other countries from orphanages, and sell them into slavery.
If those stolen children happen to continue the abusive lifestyle they were forced into after they become adults, they are still victims.
And as you have said, in this case with Chinese women, they are almost certainly enslaved.
I would recommend that some of the men on this forum do a little research before glibly responding that this is no big deal.
@musiclady
And I would suggest you learn what the bleep you are talking about before bragging about your ignorance.
Sex in Asia is not considered to be filthy and disgusting unless some religious creature gives his blessing. I lived in Asia for over 4 years and had friends that married bar girls they met,and bar girls in Asia is synonymous with "hooker" here. Not only are they not looked down upon by their own people,they are respected as independent businesswomen and their entire families know what they do. It is not hidden because it is not shameful.
While I understand you have been brainwashed and indoctrinated your entire life,Christianity is a minority religion,and one of the few that punishes pleasure.
Now,having said that,I have no doubt whatsoever that these women though there were entering a traditional Asian business relationship,but were enslaved and mistreated once they left Asia. Not having any money of their own,and only able to speak the basic words they needed to speak,they were powerless to escape because they were told they would be put in prison if found here without the proper papers,and in some cases I suspect their captors threatened to harm their families back home if they tried to escape.
Asia gangsters are scum,just like US gangsters and gangsters everywhere in the world. I PERSONALLY have no trouble with the men running that operation being executed,but these women have already suffered more than they should have. At MOST we need to keep them here to testify against their masters that enslaved them,and then we need to drop them off at the Chinese or other Asian embassy that represents their home nation and let them send them home.
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Apparently, this salon was part of a much larger investigation, across multiple jurisdictions. It’s a comprehensive article. However, it can’t be the complete full story, since things are still developing.
Florida human trafficking ring, prostitution in massage parlors: The full story
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/crime/2019/02/26/florida-human-sex-trafficking-ring-full-story/2978763002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/crime/2019/02/26/florida-human-sex-trafficking-ring-full-story/2978763002/)
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My Life My Choice, a Boston nonprofit formed in 2002, works to end the sexual exploitation of children through programs– and advocacy. The group has led prevention groups for more than 2,000 girls, mentored more than 400 and helped draft anti-trafficking legislation in Massachusetts.
Kraft donated $100,000 to My Life My Choice in 2015. The contribution, reported by Deadspin, was hailed by the ESPN Humanitarian Awards as a "game-changer."
My Life My Choicewould not say whether it plans to sever ties with Kraft.
“Our organization’s existence is focused on ending commercial sexual exploitation,†executive director Lisa Goldblatt Grace said in a statement.
“The buying and selling of human beings is an egregious form of abuse," she said. "We are heartbroken by the allegations about Robert Kraft. The New England Patriots Charitable Foundation has supported My Life My Choice in the past. We will await additional information before commenting further.â€
https://www.yahoo.com/news/robert-kraft-given-away-fortune-152557706.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/robert-kraft-given-away-fortune-152557706.html)
He gave away 1000 potential handjobs.
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Robert Kraft has a court date — March 28, 2019, at 9 a.m. ET — for an arraignment hearing stemming from two January visits to a Florida massage parlor.
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“The defendant must be present at this hearing,†court records filed on Thursday morning state. “Failure to appear will result in a bond Forfeiture or revocation of own recognizance and a Capias/Warrant being issued for your arrest.â€
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-gets-court-date-and-must-appear-161905332.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-gets-court-date-and-must-appear-161905332.html)
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@sneakypete
@mystery-ak
Let's consider these happenings according to body function:
First, sex is a normal function of a human body. It is not "dirty", "nasty", etc. It is there to reproduce plus the act releases complete tension in the body at the time of the orgasm. That is what both of them want. That act also keeps a couple together as each knows the other in such a private way.
I think if a man wants to have sex and a woman wants to charge him money for having sex, fine, it's only their business - not law enforcement's business. There is also this truth: when men are with women, at some point, there will be sex between them.
Now, if women are being held against their will and forced to have sex with men, raid the place and stop it. If that is what is happened here, shut it down and help the women find another way to live.
Kraft is 77, he is most likely impotent, cannot have an erection. He still has a want/need to have an orgasm, all people would as that is built into their genes to have sex. It is easier for a man to have an orgasm than women. I did couple counseling for many years, and heard their stories of that part of their lives. It was usually the woman who was not satisfied with their sex life.
So, Kraft went to this place to have an orgasm. The first film evidently shows the woman used her hands on his genitals, mainly the penis, to bring him to an orgasm.
He must have had an orgasm or he would not have gone there the second time.
His second time going there, the film evidently shows she used her mouth on the penis to bring him to orgasm. He used money to get the organism and he had it both times.
He likely would not know if any/some/all of the women were there against their will. He was unfortunate to have gone to this one where law enforcement was doing a sting operation with cameras there. He will be more careful from now on if he goes to another one.
YIKES!!! TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!!!
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Patriots' owner Robert Kraft has assembled a legal dream team to handle his misdemeanor sex solicitation case; can they save him?
Another attorney on the team is Jeffrey Goldberger, the criminal defense attorney who helped politically-connected Florida financier Jeffrey Epstein reach a non-prosecution deal in 2008 with the Miami U.S. Attorney’s office to end a federal investigation into sex abuse involving at least 40 teenage girls.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-assembled-legal-dream-team-234510439--abc-news-topstories.html (https://www.yahoo.com/gma/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-assembled-legal-dream-team-234510439--abc-news-topstories.html)
I understand Epstein got a ridiculously good deal, but who wants to be tangentially associated with him, in an case that’s already creepy enough?
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Patriots' owner Robert Kraft has assembled a legal dream team to handle his misdemeanor sex solicitation case; can they save him?
Another attorney on the team is Jeffrey Goldberger, the criminal defense attorney who helped politically-connected Florida financier Jeffrey Epstein reach a non-prosecution deal in 2008 with the Miami U.S. Attorney’s office to end a federal investigation into sex abuse involving at least 40 teenage girls.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-assembled-legal-dream-team-234510439--abc-news-topstories.html (https://www.yahoo.com/gma/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-assembled-legal-dream-team-234510439--abc-news-topstories.html)
I understand Epstein got a ridiculously good deal, but who wants to be tangentially associated with him, in an case that’s already creepy enough?
I'm sure that attorneys who represent sleazy creeps like Epstein, Kraft and Clinton have only one thing in mind.
Mammon.
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My Life My Choice, a Boston nonprofit formed in 2002, works to end the sexual exploitation of children through programs– and advocacy. The group has led prevention groups for more than 2,000 girls, mentored more than 400 and helped draft anti-trafficking legislation in Massachusetts.
Kraft donated $100,000 to My Life My Choice in 2015. The contribution, reported by Deadspin, was hailed by the ESPN Humanitarian Awards as a "game-changer."
He gave away 1000 potential handjobs.
@edpc
Not his hand,so not his problem.
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New wrinkle in this and I'm sure meaningless but just posting, this info has been out there for days. I don't think ever posted in this forum.
Who is Cindy Yang and how is she connected to Trump and the spa where Patriots owner was charged?
Christal Hayes, USA TODAY Published 8:23 p.m. ET March 9, 2019 | Updated 6:33 p.m. ET March 10, 2019
A day spa that led to prostitution charges against New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft. A business consulting firm offering foreign companies access to President Donald Trump.
One person helped found both: Li Yang, better known as Cindy Yang.
Almost overnight, the Chinese entrepreneur went from unknown Florida resident to the center of attention with questions mounting about her businesses and political ties. The story seems to be only getting weirder. And it's all centered in a state known for its bizarre news.
Read more at: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/09/spa-founder-linked-robert-kraft-prostitution-case-cindy-yang/3115702002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/09/spa-founder-linked-robert-kraft-prostitution-case-cindy-yang/3115702002/)
So, could be more info. out there.
Now, she's a selfie-queen.
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Patriots owner Robert Kraft will not accept a plea deal offered in the Florida day spa case, a source says
Prosecutors have offered to drop misdemeanor charges against Kraft and 24 other men in exchange for fines, community service and an admission they would be found guilty should the case go to trial, according to Mike Edmonson, spokesman for the Palm Beach State Attorney's Office.
Edmondson described the offer as standard for first-time offenders and said that none of the offers had been accepted as of Wednesday morning.
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/03/20/us/robert-kraft-solicitation-offer/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F (https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/03/20/us/robert-kraft-solicitation-offer/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F)