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Title: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: truth_seeker on June 01, 2019, 04:55:01 pm
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz

By Natasha Bach   ||    May 31, 2019

Freshman Democrat Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez found an unlikely ally in Republican Sen. Ted Cruz on Thursday.
Ocasio-Cortez shared an analysis from Public Citizen on Twitter that found that close to 60% of former members of the last Congress have taken lobbying jobs or jobs that influence federal policy more broadly. Along with the study, she shared a message that “if you are a member of Congress + leave, you shouldn’t be allowed to turn right around & leverage your service for a lobbyist check. I don’t think it should be legal at ALL to become a corporate lobbyist if you’ve served in Congress.”

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http://fortune.com/2019/05/31/aoc-and-ted-cruz/ (http://fortune.com/2019/05/31/aoc-and-ted-cruz/)
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: LegalAmerican on June 01, 2019, 06:26:37 pm
Still don't trust Ted.  Never will. Once people show you who they are...believe them. 
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: skeeter on June 01, 2019, 06:30:46 pm
Still don't trust Ted.  Never will. Once people show you who they are...believe them.

Its called being principled. You know, the opposite of untrustworthy.

Or maybe he should go all in for ex-congressmen lobbying their former associates just because being against it would put AOC on his side?
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: Sanguine on June 01, 2019, 06:50:26 pm
Still don't trust Ted.  Never will. Once people show you who they are...believe them.

Yes, ma'am.  We see you.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: Mod2 on June 01, 2019, 06:51:33 pm
http://fortune.com/2019/05/31/aoc-and-ted-cruz/ (http://fortune.com/2019/05/31/aoc-and-ted-cruz/)
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: truth_seeker on June 01, 2019, 07:54:31 pm
Still don't trust Ted.  Never will. Once people show you who they are...believe them.

I trust him. He is a prominent political figure, with beliefs like my own, on most issues.

I believe him to be smart, and pragmatic. He should see the obvious; AOC is persuasive in the manner that Scott Adams discusses. He noticed her ability early,  to be heard.

One could cynically claim Cruz is using her to get attention. If so fine. But that is the game now, like it or not. I appplaud his political savvy.

If they got a jointly developed measure to pass, I would call them both "smart" and "effective."
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: Free Vulcan on June 01, 2019, 08:11:00 pm
There are some things liberals and conservatives agree on. Doesn't happen often.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: truth_seeker on June 01, 2019, 09:25:52 pm
There are some things liberals and conservatives agree on. Doesn't happen often.

AOC recently said that nuclear power should be considered for fighting "climate change."


Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: Free Vulcan on June 01, 2019, 09:57:18 pm
AOC recently said that nuclear power should be considered for fighting "climate change."

That surprises me, but some liberals are ok with nuke power being so afraid of CO2.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: Mod1 on June 03, 2019, 01:42:11 pm
Moving to the AOC category.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: ABX on June 03, 2019, 02:08:51 pm
The proper title should be "A Broken Clock is Right Twice A Day" in regards to AOC.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: ABX on June 03, 2019, 02:09:18 pm
Still don't trust Ted.  Never will. Once people show you who they are...believe them.

Of course you don't. No matter what account you use.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: austingirl on June 03, 2019, 02:32:20 pm
There is an easy way to get rid of the influence of lobbyists- ditch the IRS and tax code, rescind the 16th amendment, and implement the Fair Tax.

With all the cheating and illegal campaign scams the bartender has been engaged in, I don't believe for a moment she won't have her hand out for lobbyist cash.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: Sanguine on June 03, 2019, 03:22:44 pm
There is an easy way to get rid of the influence of lobbyists- ditch the IRS and tax code, rescind the 16th amendment, and implement the Fair Tax.

With all the cheating and illegal campaign scams the bartender has been engaged in, I don't believe for a moment she won't have her hand out for lobbyist cash.

I think there are several active campaign finance investigations going on with AOC.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 03, 2019, 09:22:23 pm
There are some things liberals and conservatives agree on. Doesn't happen often.

If a million monkeys, typing on a million typewriters for a million years could perhaps produce one copy of Shakespeare's Sonnets (used to describe the likelyhood of a favorble genetic mutation causing evolution) h, then AOC is due to get one thing right. In this one thing, apparently Cruz, AOC, and I agree.

You will never drain the swamp, if unseated Congress critters are allowed to flip and lobby the very halls they just vacated--and likely for a much better pecuniary reward. End the delayed kickback.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 04, 2019, 02:05:28 am
There is an easy way to get rid of the influence of lobbyists- ditch the IRS and tax code, rescind the 16th amendment, and implement the Fair Tax.
Neal Boortz, Herman Cain and Bigun all agree with you. The rest of the world knows that this malarkey won't work, either.

As long as we have a government that accepts suggestions and votes from the public, there will always be lobbying.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: austingirl on June 04, 2019, 10:11:39 pm
Neal Boortz, Herman Cain and Bigun all agree with you. The rest of the world knows that this malarkey won't work, either.

As long as we have a government that accepts suggestions and votes from the public, there will always be lobbying.
@jmyrlefuller
If there is no tax code to manipulate, the lobbyists can't affect my money. @Bigun
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Finds Unlikely Ally in Ted Cruz
Post by: Bigun on June 05, 2019, 12:10:04 am
@jmyrlefuller
If there is no tax code to manipulate, the lobbyists can't affect my money. @Bigun

@austingirl There are plenty of people around whos minds are made up and do not wish to be confused by facts and logic.  @jmyrlefuller is one of them. 

May his chains rest lightly!