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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: mystery-ak on September 19, 2019, 01:34:54 pm
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Wash Post Reporter: 'Somebody Who Used to Work at the White House' Is the Whistleblower
By Susan Jones | September 19, 2019 | 6:52 AM EDT
(CNSNews.com) - A Washington Post report provides new fodder for determined anti-Trump investigators.
The newspaper reported Tuesday that a "whistleblower complaint" so far withheld from Congress involves President Trump’s communications, reportedly a phone call, with a foreign leader.
"Trump’s interaction with the foreign leader included a 'promise' that was regarded as so troubling that it prompted an official in the U.S. intelligence community to file a formal whistleblower complaint with the inspector general for the intelligence community," the Washington Post said, quoting "two former U.S. officials speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly."
more
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/wash-post-reporter-somebody-who-used-work-white-house-whistleblower?fbclid=IwAR2Zoy6509PBg_KWBjLG-CmVlP5PUC3ZnGUGarxnLFGe9OKDWTnQFqpE0uc#utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=cns&utm_campaign=a-WaPoSomebodyUsedToWorkatWHIsWhistleblower (https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/wash-post-reporter-somebody-who-used-work-white-house-whistleblower?fbclid=IwAR2Zoy6509PBg_KWBjLG-CmVlP5PUC3ZnGUGarxnLFGe9OKDWTnQFqpE0uc#utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=cns&utm_campaign=a-WaPoSomebodyUsedToWorkatWHIsWhistleblower)
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They got him nowTM @Cyber Liberty
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They got him nowTM @Cyber Liberty
Yup! This time, it'll be different. They got 'im by the short-hairs....
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Let's see if the Bongino Rule works here: wait 24 hours and the story will be debunked.
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Washington Post *****rollingeyes*****
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The sooner we all just accept the fact that Trump is a foreign agent who is plotting the destruction of America, then the sooner the Communist 'saviors' can take over and save us all.
Forget about Imam Hussein 'I stand with the Muslims' Obama, who told Putin 'help get me elected and I will have 'more flexibility' for you in the future. That stuff doesn't matter.
All that matters is that Donald 'Make America Great Again' Trump is really a traitor. That's all that counts.
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Let's see if the Bongino Rule works here: wait 24 hours and the story will be debunked.
Actually, the Bongino Rule is that Clifford Worley may have been onto something.
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Actually, the Bongino Rule is that Clifford Worley may have been onto something.
It looks like another impeachable offense to me.
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It looks like another impeachable offense to me.
Supposedly, it involved a phone call. That seems to point to Putin. It’s probably something similar to Obama’s ‘more flexibility after the election’ comment. Hardly impeachable, but you’ll probably recall, people on our side weren’t really pleased with that statement.
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Supposedly, it involved a phone call. That seems to point to Putin. It’s probably something similar to Obama’s ‘more flexibility after the election’ comment. Hardly impeachable, but you’ll probably recall, people on our side weren’t really pleased with that statement.
It's "impeachable" if Jerry Waddler says it is. Stay tuned.
Added: Trump is not allowed to speak with foreign leaders, especially ones named "Putin." It's in the Constitution somewhere in an emanation of a penumbra. WaPo told me so.
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"...two former U.S. officials speaking on the condition of anonymity"...
Strzok, Brennan, Comey... who else?
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IMPEACH ME!! I AM HERE!! IMPEACH ME!! DO IT NOW!
I wish these Democrat idiots would stop talking, and actually do something for a change.
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"Virtually anytime I speak on the phone to a foreign leader, I understand that there may be many people listening from various U.S. agencies, not to mention those from the other country itself," Trump said on Twitter.
"Knowing all of this, is anybody dumb enough to believe that I would say something inappropriate with a foreign leader while on such a potentially 'heavily populated' call," he said.
"I would only do what is right anyway, and only do good for the USA!"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-calls-media-report-whistleblower-150232719.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-calls-media-report-whistleblower-150232719.html)
1) The syntax shows he obviously didn’t compose this tweet.
2) He has a history of saying inappropriate things publicly.
3) He’s always done what’s good for him.
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Trump defends his handling of talks with foreign leaders amid whistleblower complaint
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/462153-trump-defends-his-handling-of-talks-with-foreign-leaders-amid
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‘Snitch!’: CNN’s Phil Mudd Loses It Over Whistleblower Who Filed Complaint Over Trump Phone Call
Chuck Ross
Investigative Reporter
September 19, 2019 10:06 AM ET
CNN analyst Phil Mudd blasted an unidentified intelligence community official as a “snitch†Wednesday for reportedly filing a complaint against President Donald Trump over an alleged phone call with a foreign leader.
During an interview with CNN’s Chris Cuomo, Mudd, a former FBI and CIA official, responded to a report from The Washington Post about a mysterious whistleblower complaint that involved a call in which Trump made a “promise†to his foreign counterpart.
“Boy, I’m about ready to blow a gasket,†Mudd told Cuomo about the story.
“I am ticked off. This is completely inappropriate. The Congress should not be asking the intel guys to go snitch on the president,†he said later.
more w/video
https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/19/cnn-phil-mudd-snitch-whistleblower-trump/
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-calls-media-report-whistleblower-150232719.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-calls-media-report-whistleblower-150232719.html)
1) The syntax shows he obviously didn’t compose this tweet.
2) He has a history of saying inappropriate things publicly.
3) He’s always done what’s good for him.
1. Obviously
2. Very obviously
3. Obviously Very Seriously Impeachable.
Did I cover it all?
Obviously I did.
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“I am ticked off. This is completely inappropriate. The Congress should not be asking the intel guys to go snitch on the president,†he said later.
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But Mudd asserted that the whistleblower had no right to raise concerns about Trump’s calls with foreign leaders, saying that “the president can say what he wants to Putin. He can say what he wants to Kim Jong Un.â€
https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/19/cnn-phil-mudd-snitch-whistleblower-trump/
Mudd is a pretty terrible analyst. The whistleblower made the complaint on his/her own. The problem arose, when it was not properly disclosed, under statute, in the required time frame. That is when Congress became involved. Yes, any president can have whatever conversation he wants with a foreign leader. However, under our system, he’s also accountable for it.
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Watchdog won't disclose contents of Trump whistleblower complaint
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/462165-intelligence-ig-wont-disclose-contents-of-whistleblower-information
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My $$$ is on Omarossa
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Actually, the Bongino Rule is that Clifford Worley may have been onto something.
I hate myself for laughing at this.
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My $$$ is on Omarossa
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That would be a good guess but Omarossa wasn't a part of US Intelligence
official in the U.S. intelligence community to file a formal whistleblower complaint
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Trump's tolerance for the *sshats that he must work with each day is immeasurable.
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Democrats to seek ways to compel release of Trump whistleblower complaint
By Olivia Beavers - 09/19/19 06:24 PM EDT
House Democrats are sounding the alarm after an intelligence community watchdog testified behind closed doors Thursday about the handling of a whistleblower complaint that is said to relate to a conversation President Trump had with a foreign leader.
Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) said the committee would consider a series of remedies to compel acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire to share the complaint with Congress, which comes after Intelligence Community (IC) Inspector General Michael Atkinson said he found this whistleblower had brought forward a credible and “urgent concern.â€
Schiff says the law requires Maguire to share the complaint with Congress no later than seven days after the director receives the allegations from the inspector general (IG).
While Schiff said they would wait to hear Maguire’s reasoning when he testifies before Congress next week about his handling of the complaint, he also telegraphed the Democrats will consider pulling at Congress’ purse strings or going to court to gain access to the allegations if the director does provide it voluntarily.
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https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/462258-democrats-to-seek-ways-to-compel-release-of-trump-whistleblower
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Whistleblower complaint based on multiple incidents; watchdog won't disclose info
By Chris Mills Rodrigo,Olivia Beavers and Mike Lillis - 09/19/19 11:46 AM EDT
The whistleblower complaint reportedly involving a discussion between President Trump and a foreign leader was based on more than one incident, said a Democratic lawmaker who attended the House Intelligence Committee's closed-door meeting Thursday with the intelligence community's inspector general.
Lawmakers said the inspector general, Michael Atkinson, declined to share incidents during the meeting.
“He didn’t talk about anything about the allegations, where he was very protective,†said Intelligence Rep. Mike Quigley (D-Ill.). “But he did mention that this complaint was based on a series of events, ‘more than one’ to get the exact wordage right.â€
Rep. Chris Stewart (R-Utah) also told The Hill that Atkinson did not talk about the contents of the whistleblower complaint during the private session with lawmakers.
Atkinson was “very careful†about what he said, Stewart said.
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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/462165-intelligence-ig-wont-disclose-contents-of-whistleblower-information
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Trump's tolerance for the *sshats that he must work with each day is immeasurable.
Why must he tolerate *sshats? He only hires the best people.
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Why must he tolerate *sshats? He only hires the best people.
How novel!
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Just in case a few more anonymous sources are needed to vouch this story, there's this from the compost:
Whistleblower complaint about President Trump involves Ukraine, according to two people familiar with the matter
Ellen Nakashima, Shane Harris, Greg Miller, Carol Leonnig
8 mins ago
A whistleblower complaint about President Trump made by an intelligence official centers on Ukraine, according to two people familiar with the matter, which has set off a struggle between Congress and the executive branch.
The complaint involved communications with a foreign leader and a “promise†that Trump made, which was so alarming that a U.S. intelligence official who had worked at the White House went to the inspector general of the intelligence community, two former U.S. officials said.
Two and a half weeks before the complaint was filed, Trump spoke with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a comedian and political newcomer who was elected in a landslide in May.
That call is already under investigation by House Democrats who are examining whether Trump and his attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani sought to manipulate the Ukrainian government into helping Trump’s reelection campaign. Lawmakers have demanded a full transcript and a list of participants on the call.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/whistleblower-complaint-about-president-trump-involves-ukraine-according-to-two-people-familiar-with-the-matter/ar-AAHyi0V?&ocid=ientp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/whistleblower-complaint-about-president-trump-involves-ukraine-according-to-two-people-familiar-with-the-matter/ar-AAHyi0V?&ocid=ientp)
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Why must he tolerate *sshats? He only hires the best people.
I have often wondered why must we tolerate posters like you.
But then I realised, we must let the worst people post here.
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@The Ghost I'm Biased toward @FeelNoPain cause he seems to be articulate and able to get his point across without any anger, so far, unlike me and you, some of the time.
Also there's the fact that he seems to be more Conservative than Trumper here, so I got his back.
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Just in case a few more anonymous sources are needed to vouch this story, there's this from the compost:
Whistleblower complaint about President Trump involves Ukraine, according to two people familiar with the matter
Ellen Nakashima, Shane Harris, Greg Miller, Carol Leonnig
8 mins ago
A whistleblower complaint about President Trump made by an intelligence official centers on Ukraine, according to two people familiar with the matter, which has set off a struggle between Congress and the executive branch.
The complaint involved communications with a foreign leader and a “promise†that Trump made, which was so alarming that a U.S. intelligence official who had worked at the White House went to the inspector general of the intelligence community, two former U.S. officials said.
Two and a half weeks before the complaint was filed, Trump spoke with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a comedian and political newcomer who was elected in a landslide in May.
That call is already under investigation by House Democrats who are examining whether Trump and his attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani sought to manipulate the Ukrainian government into helping Trump’s reelection campaign. Lawmakers have demanded a full transcript and a list of participants on the call.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/whistleblower-complaint-about-president-trump-involves-ukraine-according-to-two-people-familiar-with-the-matter/ar-AAHyi0V?&ocid=ientp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/whistleblower-complaint-about-president-trump-involves-ukraine-according-to-two-people-familiar-with-the-matter/ar-AAHyi0V?&ocid=ientp)
I wonder who leaked this...I see the Dems are on top of this as usual but this time Sessions isn't AG so I know there will be no SP..just another impeachment hearing in the House...
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Supposedly, it involved a phone call. That seems to point to Putin. It’s probably something similar to Obama’s ‘more flexibility after the election’ comment. Hardly impeachable, but you’ll probably recall, people on our side weren’t really pleased with that statement.
What side might that be? :laugh:
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Democrats to seek ways to compel release of Trump whistleblower complaint
By Olivia Beavers - 09/19/19 06:24 PM EDT
House Democrats are sounding the alarm after an intelligence community watchdog testified behind closed doors Thursday about the handling of a whistleblower complaint that is said to relate to a conversation President Trump had with a foreign leader.
Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) said the committee would consider a series of remedies to compel acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire to share the complaint with Congress, which comes after Intelligence Community (IC) Inspector General Michael Atkinson said he found this whistleblower had brought forward a credible and “urgent concern.â€
Schiff says the law requires Maguire to share the complaint with Congress no later than seven days after the director receives the allegations from the inspector general (IG).
While Schiff said they would wait to hear Maguire’s reasoning when he testifies before Congress next week about his handling of the complaint, he also telegraphed the Democrats will consider pulling at Congress’ purse strings or going to court to gain access to the allegations if the director does provide it voluntarily.
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https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/462258-democrats-to-seek-ways-to-compel-release-of-trump-whistleblower
The dems cry wolf so often I honestly don't think people even listen to them anymore....
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News of the probe's potential relation to Ukraine policy comes as The Independent reported that House lawmakers are investigating whether Trump pressed Ukraine's president during a July phone call to launch an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden (D), the Democratic 2020 primary frontrunner, claiming that it would improve relations between the U.S. and Ukraine if Ukraine's government did so.
Trump whistleblower complaint involves Ukraine: report
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/462274-trump-whistleblower-complaint-involves-to-ukraine-report
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By the way, on September 25th, Trump will meet Zelinsky, Ukraine President at the UN.
But right now, Ukraine is trending on twitter. I'll bet not much comes of this but I'm trying to keep up some. No endorsements here to articles but the conversation above got me seeing what's out there.
Trump and Giuliani’s Quest for Fake Ukraine “Dirt†on Biden: An Explainer
by Viola Gienger
September 10, 2019
Vice President Mike Pence was about to finish a routine joint press conference with Polish President Andrzej Duda in Warsaw last week, when he got two astutely specific questions about his meeting the previous day with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy:
“Number one, did you discuss Joe Biden at all during that meeting yesterday with the Ukrainian President? And number two, can you assure Ukraine that the hold-up of [U.S. security assistance] has absolutely nothing to do with efforts, including by Rudy Giuliani, to try to dig up dirt on the Biden family?†Associated Press reporter Jill Colvin asked.
Pence answered the first question directly: “Well, on the first question, the answer is no.†His response to the second question was more interesting. He essentially demurred. But to decode the significance of Pence’s reply, it’s important to understand the recent history of Ukraine and U.S. policy toward the country. From there, we can unpack what’s at the bottom of the Trump-Giuliani efforts.
Read more at: https://www.justsecurity.org/66101/trump-and-giulianis-quest-for-fake-ukraine-dirt-on-biden-an-explainer/ (https://www.justsecurity.org/66101/trump-and-giulianis-quest-for-fake-ukraine-dirt-on-biden-an-explainer/)
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Did someone say Ukraine?
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Maybe it's like this gent says:
Michael McFaul
@McFaul
Ukraine. Again. Sigh.
Quote Tweet
Ellen Nakashima
@nakashimae
https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1174851669458161664
EXCLUSIVE: A whistleblower complaint about President Trump made by an intelligence official centers on Ukraine, according to two former officials. w/@shaneharris @gregpmiller @CarolLeonnig https://washingtonpost.com/national-secur
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Someone who used to work at the White House? Or for an Intell agency? Or both?
Either way they were spying, conducting espionage or making false allegations. All criminal offenses.
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Someone who used to work at the White House? Or for an Intell agency? Or both?
Either way they were spying, conducting espionage or making false allegations. All criminal offenses.
And, when did this person work in the White House? During which administration?
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Strzok, Brennan, Comey... who else?
Well every liberal he has hired so far like to talk and write books. And he fires so many...…...
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Drudge:
Whistle-blower drama hits White House
Ukraine Call 'Promise'
Executive Privilege
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Looks like Fox is going to bat for Trump, looks like this is just a bunch of "nonsense" I hope.
Matthew Whitaker calls reported whistleblower complaint a 'clear example of someone from the Deep State'
By Frank Miles | Fox News
Former Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker took issue on Thursday with a reported whistleblower complaint about incidents including a private conversation between President Trump and a foreign leader.
"This is a clear example of someone from the Deep State ... from the intelligence community," Whitaker said on "The Story with Martha MacCallum." "It was completely overblown. ... It will be a big nothing burger."
He called the incident an example of "outrageous conduct."
More at: https://www.foxnews.com/media/matthew-whitaker-whistleblower-trump-deep-state-outrageous (https://www.foxnews.com/media/matthew-whitaker-whistleblower-trump-deep-state-outrageous)
Hannity on whistleblower report: 'Key facts, details don't matter' to the media mob
By Victor Garcia | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/media/hannity-on-whistleblower-report-key-facts-details-dont-matter-to-the-media-mob (https://www.foxnews.com/media/hannity-on-whistleblower-report-key-facts-details-dont-matter-to-the-media-mob)
This would be a good ploy to try something on this administration, after all, we know at least Biden was already somewhat connected to Ukraine, his son went on to a lucrative career there I believe.
Another trick!
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Why must he tolerate *sshats? He only hires the best people.
Except he does not hire Congress, or people in the permanent big gureacracy.
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@The Ghost I'm Biased toward @FeelNoPain cause he seems to be articulate and able to get his point across without any anger, so far, unlike me and you, some of the time.
Also there's the fact that he seems to be more Conservative than Trumper here, so I got his back.
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I have often wondered why must we tolerate posters like you.
But then I realised, we must let the worst people post here.
Diversity is strength happy77
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@Cyber Liberty
What happened is below; the short version is, a whistle-blower (this was one in the intelligence division),has a route to follow to report something the whistle-blower thinks is
urgent and credible. He (or she), reported this up the next intelligence chain, where it was considered urgent and credible. (I heard tonight this info. is more than a phone call.)
The Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson also said it was
urgent and credible and it went to Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire. From there the law says it goes to the House Intelligence Committee, but McQuire would not send it - he violated the law when he stopped the course of the law. It is not his prerogative to stop this information. More info. below: (consider the rest in "quotes":
"Today (Thursday), Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson, who called the whistle-blower complaint a matter of "urgent concern," will appear before the House intelligence committee to brief members in closed session at 9:00 a.m.
The committee chair is Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), ...person who first raised public concern that the whistle-blower complaint had been bottled up by Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire."
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Diversity is strength happy77
Sad so many Trump fanatics like to demean conservatives here.
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Trump dismisses growing furor over 'highly partisan' whistleblower complaint
By Brett Samuels - 09/20/19 08:46 AM EDT
President Trump on Friday dismissed the growing furor surrounding a whistleblower complaint that he had an inappropriate conversation with a foreign leader, insisting that the interaction in question was a "perfectly fine and respectful conversation."
The president once again took to Twitter to defend his conduct as new details emerged about the complaint, which came from a member of the intelligence community.
"The Radical Left Democrats and their Fake News Media partners, headed up again by Little Adam Schiff, and batting Zero for 21 against me, are at it again!" Trump tweeted, referring to House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.).
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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/462291-trump-dismisses-growing-furor-over-highly-partisan-whistleblower
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Giuliani says 'of course' he asked Ukraine to look into Biden seconds after denying it
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/462277-giuliani-says-of-course-he-asked-ukraine-to-look-into-biden-seconds
I watched this last night and kept saying STFU Rudy!..He hit all the shows last night but when I saw him on Fox...I think Laura Ingraham felt the same way as I...sometimes Rudy does more harm than good.
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It seems to be SOP for Giuliani to go out and say inadvisable, outrageous things, during interviews. After that, everyone is numb to the core of the story.
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You Just Can’t Make This Up! Joe Biden’s $1.5 Billion China-Ukraine Bribery Scandal That Was Ignored by Media is now President Trump’s Scandal!
You Just Can’t Make This Up! Joe Biden’s $1.5 Billion China-Ukraine Bribery Scandal That Was Ignored by Media is now President Trump’s Scandal!
by Jim Hoft September 19, 2019
After leaving office in 2017, Vice President Joe Biden Bragged about strong-arming the government of Ukraine to fire its top prosecutor.
Joe Biden made the remarks during a meeting of foreign policy specialists. Biden said he, “Threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.†Biden suggested during his talk that Barack Obama was in on the threat.
more
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/you-just-cant-make-this-up-joe-bidens-1-5-billion-china-ukraine-bribery-scandal-that-was-ignored-by-media-is-now-president-trumps-scandal/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/you-just-cant-make-this-up-joe-bidens-1-5-billion-china-ukraine-bribery-scandal-that-was-ignored-by-media-is-now-president-trumps-scandal/)
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Al Sharpton pulverized by Gaetz as outraged Dems desperately cry to Nadler to stop damage
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/09/20/al-sharpton-pulverized-by-gaetz-as-outraged-dems-desperately-cry-to-nadler-to-stop-damage-827560 (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/09/20/al-sharpton-pulverized-by-gaetz-as-outraged-dems-desperately-cry-to-nadler-to-stop-damage-827560)
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Whistleblower Complaint Now Looks Like Democrat Effort to Protect Joe Biden from Investigation…
Posted on September 19, 2019 by sundance
The mysterious “whistleblower†case now looks like a coordinated Democrat effort to block any investigation of presidential candidate Joe Biden for corrupt pressure on Ukraine to drop the investigation of Burisma, an energy company operating in the country, on which his son Hunter Biden was a board member.
In March 2016, then Vice-President Joe Biden warned Ukraine that $1 billion in loan guarantees would be withheld by the U.S. unless they replaced Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor general who was investigating Hunter Biden. Ukraine did remove Shokin, and the prosecution was dropped. It looks like a clear case of a quid-pro-quo.
However, as things are starting to shake out, the current obfuscation to protect Joe Biden is President Trump asking Ukraine’s new president Volodymyr Zelensky to take another look at the issues surrounding the former government’s decision to fire the Ukrainian prosecutor. This is presumably the call concerning to the whistleblower. To wit, democrats see this as Trump asking Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election....
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/19/whistleblower-complaint-now-looks-like-democrat-effort-to-protect-joe-biden-from-investigation/
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President Trump asking Ukraine’s new president Volodymyr Zelensky to take another look at the issues surrounding the former government’s decision to fire the Ukrainian prosecutor. This is presumably the call concerning to the whistleblower. To wit, democrats see this as Trump asking Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election.
If this is true, isn't this similiar as what the Dems did in 2016...?
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If this is true, isn't this similiar as what the Dems did in 2016...?
No, I don't think so. The dems created a "crime" to investigate; the Biden actions appear to be a crime committed by Biden.
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And as usual.... the DemocRats are accusing others (Trump, always) of doing exactly what they have done .... and are still in the process of doing. Their ongoing endless "investigations" of all things Trump is, in fact, interfering in the 2020 election by trying to taint a sitting president running for re-election.
To wit, democrats see this as Trump asking Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election....
In a sane world, this would backfire so badly that the rats would never win another election. Alas....
we passed and left in the dust that "sane" milestone decades ago.
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Trump: No One Else Complained About My Call With Foreign Leader
Jamie Ross
Reporter
Updated 09.20.19 8:53AM ET /
Published 09.20.19 8:52AM ET
It’s still a mystery exactly what provoked an intelligence officer to file a whistleblower complaint against Donald Trump. So far, it’s been reported that it involves a foreign leader, believed to be from Ukraine, and the president of the United States issuing some form of “promise.†The complaint is being withheld from Congress by the acting director of national intelligence. It’s all very shady but, don’t worry, because President Trump says it’s nothing to worry about. He tweeted Friday morning saying: “They think I may have had a ‘dicey’ conversation with a certain foreign leader based on a ‘highly partisan’ whistleblower's statement. Strange that with so many other people hearing or knowing of the perfectly fine and respectful conversation, that they would not have also come forward. Do you know the reason why they did not? Because there was nothing said wrong, it was pitch perfect!â€
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-no-one-but-whistleblower-complained-about-my-call-with-foreign-leader?via=FB_Page&source=TDB&fbclid=IwAR1inMgySYG2-zGqX2zJf0XJi3MQUII1qmsgfrvZvmZsYHpupzq7PwD8bxM (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-no-one-but-whistleblower-complained-about-my-call-with-foreign-leader?via=FB_Page&source=TDB&fbclid=IwAR1inMgySYG2-zGqX2zJf0XJi3MQUII1qmsgfrvZvmZsYHpupzq7PwD8bxM)
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Trump to Meet Ukrainian President Next Week Amid Whistleblower Storm
Jamie Ross
Reporter
Updated 09.20.19 9:55AM ET /
Published 09.20.19 9:54AM ET
Well, at least they’ll have a lot to talk about. President Trump will meet with the president of Ukraine next week as the storm surrounding a whistleblower complaint about Trump’s communications with a foreign leader keeps growing. It’s been reported that the mysterious complaint filed by an intelligence official involves a “promise†made to a foreign leader by Trump, and that the allegation is specifically focused on Ukraine. Trump will meet President Volodymyr Zelensky when both leaders attend the United Nations General Assembly in New York. The Ukrainian president's office confirmed in a statement: “The Head of State will hold a series of bilateral meetings with foreign leaders in New York, in particular with President of the United States Donald Trump.â€
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-to-meet-ukrainian-president-next-week-amid-whistleblower-storm?via=FB_Page&source=TDB&fbclid=IwAR1inMgySYG2-zGqX2zJf0XJi3MQUII1qmsgfrvZvmZsYHpupzq7PwD8bxM (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-to-meet-ukrainian-president-next-week-amid-whistleblower-storm?via=FB_Page&source=TDB&fbclid=IwAR1inMgySYG2-zGqX2zJf0XJi3MQUII1qmsgfrvZvmZsYHpupzq7PwD8bxM)
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Schiff subpoenas acting national intelligence director over 'urgent' whistleblower complaint
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/adam-schiff-subpoena-acting-national-security-director-urgent-whistleblower-complaint (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/adam-schiff-subpoena-acting-national-security-director-urgent-whistleblower-complaint)
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Matthew Whitaker calls reported whistleblower complaint a 'clear example of someone from the Deep State'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/matthew-whitaker-whistleblower-trump-deep-state-outrageous (https://www.foxnews.com/media/matthew-whitaker-whistleblower-trump-deep-state-outrageous)
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Matthew Whitaker calls reported whistleblower complaint a 'clear example of someone from the Deep State'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/matthew-whitaker-whistleblower-trump-deep-state-outrageous (https://www.foxnews.com/media/matthew-whitaker-whistleblower-trump-deep-state-outrageous)
Yep. If there is even slight truth to the complaint - somebody reported that Trump said something, even if the something was innocuous or appropriate - it reveals that hostile insiders are spying on Trump.
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We have no idea who the whistleblower is and if they are partisan, or not. We do know the identity of the IG and he thought it was important enough to warrant notifying those in Congress, responsible for intelligence oversight. The recently appointed DNI blocked it, but he’s not partisan? If there’s nothing to it, let Congress be notified, and let the Democrats overreach, once again.
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Trump Repeatedly Pressed Ukraine President to Investigate Biden’s Son
U.S. president didn’t mention foreign aid on July call with Volodymyr Zelensky
By Alan Cullison,
Rebecca Ballhaus and
Dustin Volz
Updated Sept. 20, 2019 3:32 pm ET
President Trump in a July phone call repeatedly pressured the president of Ukraine to investigate Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden ’s son, urging Volodymyr Zelensky about eight times to work with Rudy Giuliani, his personal lawyer, on a probe, according to people familiar with the matter.
“He told him that he should work with [Mr. Giuliani] on Biden, and that people in Washington wanted to know†whether allegations were true or not, one of the people said. Mr. Trump didn’t mention a provision of foreign aid to Ukraine on the call, said this person, who didn’t believe Mr. Trump offered the Ukrainian president any quid-pro-quo for his cooperation on an investigation.
Mr. Giuliani in June and August met with top Ukrainian officials about the prospect of an investigation, he said in an interview. The Trump lawyer has suggested Mr. Biden as vice president worked to shield from investigation a Ukrainian gas company with ties to his son, Hunter Biden. A Ukrainian official earlier this year said he had no evidence of wrongdoing by Mr. Biden or his son.
After the July call between the two presidents, the Ukrainian government said Mr. Trump had congratulated the new president on his election and expressed hope that his government would push ahead with investigations and corruption probes that had stymied relations between the two countries.
The White House declined to comment. The Biden campaign didn’t respond to a request for comment. Last week, a Biden campaign spokesman said of Mr. Giuliani’s efforts to pressure Ukraine: “This is beneath us as Americans.â€
Mr. Trump on Friday defended his July call with Mr. Zelensky as “totally appropriate†but declined to say whether he had asked the Ukrainian leader to investigate Mr. Biden, a former U.S. vice president. “It doesn’t matter what I discussed,†he said.
At the same time, he reiterated his call for an investigation into Mr. Biden’s effort as vice president to oust Ukraine’s prosecutor general. “Somebody ought to look into that," he told reporters.
more
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-defends-conversation-with-ukraine-leader-11568993176?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/Di94fygXNh (https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-defends-conversation-with-ukraine-leader-11568993176?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/Di94fygXNh)
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Separately, lawmakers have been investigating whether the president or his lawyer sought to pressure the Ukrainian government to pursue probes in an effort to benefit Mr. Trump’s re-election bid.
Oh God I see another SP and Congressional hearings in the future...I don't know what to make of this...but sure as hell the Dems will!
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Trump Repeatedly Pressed Ukraine President to Investigate Biden’s Son
U.S. president didn’t mention foreign aid on July call with Volodymyr Zelensky
By Alan Cullison,
Rebecca Ballhaus and
Dustin Volz
Updated Sept. 20, 2019 3:32 pm ET
President Trump in a July phone call repeatedly pressured the president of Ukraine to investigate Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden ’s son, urging Volodymyr Zelensky about eight times to work with Rudy Giuliani, his personal lawyer, on a probe, according to people familiar with the matter.
“He told him that he should work with [Mr. Giuliani] on Biden, and that people in Washington wanted to know†whether allegations were true or not, one of the people said. Mr. Trump didn’t mention a provision of foreign aid to Ukraine on the call, said this person, who didn’t believe Mr. Trump offered the Ukrainian president any quid-pro-quo for his cooperation on an investigation.
Mr. Giuliani in June and August met with top Ukrainian officials about the prospect of an investigation, he said in an interview. The Trump lawyer has suggested Mr. Biden as vice president worked to shield from investigation a Ukrainian gas company with ties to his son, Hunter Biden. A Ukrainian official earlier this year said he had no evidence of wrongdoing by Mr. Biden or his son.
After the July call between the two presidents, the Ukrainian government said Mr. Trump had congratulated the new president on his election and expressed hope that his government would push ahead with investigations and corruption probes that had stymied relations between the two countries.
The White House declined to comment. The Biden campaign didn’t respond to a request for comment. Last week, a Biden campaign spokesman said of Mr. Giuliani’s efforts to pressure Ukraine: “This is beneath us as Americans.â€
Mr. Trump on Friday defended his July call with Mr. Zelensky as “totally appropriate†but declined to say whether he had asked the Ukrainian leader to investigate Mr. Biden, a former U.S. vice president. “It doesn’t matter what I discussed,†he said.
At the same time, he reiterated his call for an investigation into Mr. Biden’s effort as vice president to oust Ukraine’s prosecutor general. “Somebody ought to look into that," he told reporters.
more
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-defends-conversation-with-ukraine-leader-11568993176?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/Di94fygXNh (https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-defends-conversation-with-ukraine-leader-11568993176?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/Di94fygXNh)
Well, that doesn't sound very good....
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Ukraine ready to investigate Biden’s son if Trump makes official request
by Caitlin Yilek
& Daniel Chaitin
| September 20, 2019 02:37 PM
| Updated Sep 20, 2019, 03:30 PM
A senior adviser to Ukraine’s interior minister said the country is prepared to investigate Joe Biden’s son Hunter, but only if there is a formal request from President Trump.
“As soon as there is an official request," Ukraine will look into the matter, but “currently there is no open investigation,†Anton Geraschenko told the Daily Beast.
Natural gas firm Burisma Holdings began employing Hunter Biden as a board member in 2014, when Joe Biden was vice president. The elder Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees if Ukraine did not fire its top prosecutor, who had been accused of corruption and had been investigating the oligarch who owned the energy company, raising concerns about a possible conflict of interest.
“Clearly, Trump is now looking for kompromat to discredit his opponent Biden, to take revenge for his friend Paul Manafort, who is serving seven years in prison,†said Geraschenko, using the Russian term for blackmail.
“We do not investigate Biden in Ukraine, since we have not received a single official request to do so,†he said.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ukraine-ready-to-investigate-bidens-son-if-trump-makes-official-request (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ukraine-ready-to-investigate-bidens-son-if-trump-makes-official-request)
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Well, that doesn't sound very good....
Doesn't he realize the optics of doing things like this..he still hasn't learned that NO ONE in the WH can be trusted!
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Everybody has the story now...another leaker... **nononono*
Trump asked Ukraine president to investigate Biden's son eight times in one phone call: report
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/462378-trump-asked-ukraine-president-to-investigate-bidens-son-eight-times
8 times he asked... **nononono*
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Doesn't he realize the optics of doing things like this..
It’s impossible to shame the shameless.
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Everybody has the story now...another leaker... **nononono*
Trump asked Ukraine president to investigate Biden's son eight times in one phone call: report
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/462378-trump-asked-ukraine-president-to-investigate-bidens-son-eight-times
8 times he asked... **nononono*
So who was spying on and eavesdropping on that phone conversation? That's what I want to know.
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Trump talked about the "populated calls", that every call he will make, he knows he will be overheard, if not here in the US then, to whom he is talking to, in this case, Ukraine.
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Trump talked about the "populated calls", that every call he will make, he knows he will be overheard, if not here in the US then, to whom he is talking to, in this case, Ukraine.
That doesn't seem to stop him from running off his mouth....and he needs to rein in Rudy who was out last night hitting all the talk shows... **nononono*
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Trump talked about the "populated calls", that every call he will make, he knows he will be overheard, if not here in the US then, to whom he is talking to, in this case, Ukraine.
There must be tapes galore of these calls.
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That doesn't seem to stop him from running off his mouth....and he needs to rein in Rudy who was out last night hitting all the talk shows... **nononono*
Trump and Rudy must think this is going to blow back at the Rats. :shrug:
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So who was spying on and eavesdropping on that phone conversation? That's what I want to know.
Who wasn’t? We just recently found out that Israel had planted stingray devices around DC, to pick up phone traffic. A secure line is only as good as both parties. You have to believe other entities were listening on the Ukraine end. Often times, we intercept what other people are intercepting.
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Who wasn’t? We just recently found out that Israel had planted stingray devices around DC, to pick up phone traffic. A secure line is only as good as both parties. You have to believe other entities were listening on the Ukraine end. Often times, we intercept what other people are intercepting.
I know you don't agree... but I find it very difficult to believe that Trump would be that stupid. Eight times? Knowing the call is being recorded? Nah. It's probably about as valid an accusation as the Russia collusion hoax was.
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Trump and Rudy must think this is going to blow back at the Rats. :shrug:
I know...don't they realize the rats will turn this around that Trump was using a foreign country to get the dirt on his political opponent...sound familiar?....they will bring up Russia again with an *I told you so*
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I know you don't agree... but I find it very difficult to believe that Trump would be that stupid. Eight times? Knowing the call is being recorded? Nah. It's probably about as valid an accusation as the Russia collusion hoax was.
I don’t believe the number of times the request was made is the issue. Other reports speak of a ‘promise’ that was made, during the conversation. That’s probably what is key. Just guessing, I would suppose it would involve releasing the $250M in aid, to have the investigation done.
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Buck Sexton
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So Obama can use FISA and FBI agents against Trump campaign officials while he is running against Hillary-
But President Trump asking the Ukrainians to investigate corruption in their own country (that may implicate a Biden) is illegal?
Nope. That’s not how this is gonna go.
Not that that is all that much solace.
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I know...don't they realize the rats will turn this around that Trump was using a foreign country to get the dirt on his political opponent...sound familiar?....they will bring up Russia again with an *I told you so*
If the tapes show that no such requests were made, that would change the trajectory of this story. It's like the rumors back in 1999 that Bill Clinton got mad and stormed out of the Paula Jones deposition. It made a lot of buzz, but when the tape of the depo was released, his accusers had egg all over their faces because it didn't happen.
I'll be the first to admit there's a bit of wishful thinking going on in the previous paragraph.
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Who wasn’t? We just recently found out that Israel had planted stingray devices around DC, to pick up phone traffic. A secure line is only as good as both parties. You have to believe other entities were listening on the Ukraine end. Often times, we intercept what other people are intercepting.
Nope. It was alleged to have been Israel by those with an agenda. It is not sure at any level that it was Israel.
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Well, that doesn't sound very good....
Mind explaining exactly why that doesn't "sound good"? I'm kind of dense I suppose.
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If Biden stiff-armed the Ukrainians to get rid of the DA, and it sure looks like they did, and then Hunter Biden (who accompanied his father on the trip to Ukraine) received a whole lotta money from Ukraine, then it should absolutely be investigated. I don't care if Biden is running for Pope, it should be investigated.
And, all the hysteria shows that the Biden people really, really, really don't want something to come out.
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Whistleblower Complaint Now Looks Like Democrat Effort to Protect Joe Biden from Investigation…
NOW we are getting down to the nub of it.
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NOW we are getting down to the nub of it.
Yep.
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Mind explaining exactly why that doesn't "sound good"? I'm kind of dense I suppose.
It appears he's going out of his way to get Hunter Biden in a jam, and (even if he's right to do it) that's not a good look. It looks like Trump is doing almost exactly what Obastard did to him.
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If Biden stiff-armed the Ukrainians to get rid of the DA, and it sure looks like they did, and then Hunter Biden (who accompanied his father on the trip to Ukraine) received a whole lotta money from Ukraine, then it should absolutely be investigated. I don't care if Biden is running for Pope, it should be investigated.
And, all the hysteria shows that the Biden people really, really, really don't want something to come out.
I think that is what happened but we all know that isn't what the Rats will claim...I am so tired of investigations..
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I think that is what happened but we all know that isn't what the Rats will claim...I am so tired of investigations..
I already know what the Rats will claim, and how the Press is going to frame it.
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It appears he's going out of his way to get Hunter Biden in a jam, and (even if he's right to do it) that's not a good look. It looks like Trump is doing almost exactly what Obastard did to him.
So asking that actual criminal activity be investigated looks the same as using the resources of the United States government to fabricate something in order to injure the sitting President? Sorry, but I don't think so!
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It appears he's going out of his way to get Hunter Biden in a jam, and (even if he's right to do it) that's not a good look. It looks like Trump is doing almost exactly what Obastard did to him.
No, he's not. There is no evidence that Trump committed any crime. There is some pretty good evidence that the Bidens may have. How is that almost exactly the same?
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So asking that actual criminal activity be investigated looks the same as using the resources of the United States government to fabricate something in order to injure the sitting President? Sorry, but I don't think so!
I'm not saying I agree with it, but that will be the story line if it turns out the President asked Ukraine to open an investigation of Hunter Biden. In fact, I don't agree with it at all, but that is how it's going to be spun. I'd make some book on that one.
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Yep.
And there is a reason why they are going to such lengths to prevent such an investigation @Sanguine. It is because there are close relatives of several other prominent Democrats involved including John F. Kerry!
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No, he's not. There is no evidence that Trump committed any crime. There is some pretty good evidence that the Bidens may have. How is that almost exactly the same?
Because the future consumers of the template I suggested are stupid.
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I'm not saying I agree with it, but that will be the story line if it turns out the President asked Ukraine to open an investigation of Hunter Biden. In fact, I don't agree with it at all, but that is how it's going to be spun. I'd make some book on that one.
You're probably right about that, and, IMHO even more egg on their faces will be a GOOD thing at the end of the day.
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And there is a reason why they are going to such lengths to prevent such an investigation @Sanguine. It is because there are close relatives of several other prominent Democrats involved including John F. Kerry!
Right you are!
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Because the future consumers of the template I suggested are stupid.
And, they weren't going to vote for Trump no matter what. So, do the right thing and to hell with what the media says.
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Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived (https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived)
Biden's Nepotism and Hypocrisy in Ukraine (https://canadafreepress.com/article/bidens-nepotism-and-hypocrisy-in-ukraine)
There are many many more like these for me to post if you want.
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Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived (https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived)
Yes, all this press just might have the exact opposite effect that the left wants. Unless they want Biden out?
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Biden, Kerry, and Their Sons Paid Big Money by Ukrain Gas Company (http://www.texemarrs.com/082014/biden_kerry_ukrain_gas.htm)
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Right you are!
I expect it from a lot of people but the people on THIS site who will light their hair on fire EVERY time the media commands it is disturbing @Sanguine @mystery-ak @Cyber Liberty
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Nope. It was alleged to have been Israel by those with an agenda. It is not sure at any level that it was Israel.
USS Liberty and Jonathan Pollard. Don’t be naïve.
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USS Liberty and Jonathan Pollard. Don’t be naïve.
Well, that proves it then. *****rollingeyes*****
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Well, that proves it then. *****rollingeyes*****
Yes – I’ll admit it was nowhere near as in-depth and informative as your agenda rebuttal.
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Yes – I’ll admit it was nowhere near as in-depth and informative as your agenda rebuttal.
Doesn't matter - you are only going to see what you want to see, so no point in wasting my time giving you information you can't understand.
Now take your trolling elsewhere. I'm not interested.