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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: edpc on September 18, 2019, 08:50:57 pm

Title: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: edpc on September 18, 2019, 08:50:57 pm
John Bolton, President Donald Trump’s fired national security adviser, harshly criticized Trump’s foreign policy on Wednesday at a private lunch, saying inviting the Taliban to Camp David sent a “terrible signal” and that it was “disrespectful” to the victims of 9/11 because the Taliban had harbored al Qaeda.

Bolton also said that any negotiations with North Korea and Iran were “doomed to failure,” according to two attendees.

All the North Koreans and Iranians want to do is negotiate for relief from sanctions to support their economies, said Bolton, who was speaking before guests invited by the Gatestone Institute, a conservative think tank.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/18/bolton-trump-foreign-policy-1501932 (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/18/bolton-trump-foreign-policy-1501932)
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: TomSea on September 18, 2019, 08:59:06 pm
Good, he speaks.

Keen observations.

He is probably correct on all in that excerpt.

I will look at the Gatestone Institute website and see if they have more.
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He' pretty important to one of those type of organizations, probably Gatestone, per past contacts.
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: Bigun on September 18, 2019, 09:02:01 pm
Good, he speaks.

Keen observations.

He is probably correct on all in that excerpt.

The president is taking FAR too advice from the pukes in the Department of State for my liking.
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: berdie on September 18, 2019, 09:20:11 pm
John Bolton, President Donald Trump’s fired national security adviser, harshly criticized Trump’s foreign policy on Wednesday at a private lunch, saying inviting the Taliban to Camp David sent a “terrible signal” and that it was “disrespectful” to the victims of 9/11 because the Taliban had harbored al Qaeda.

Bolton also said that any negotiations with North Korea and Iran were “doomed to failure,” according to two attendees.

All the North Koreans and Iranians want to do is negotiate for relief from sanctions to support their economies, said Bolton, who was speaking before guests invited by the Gatestone Institute, a conservative think tank.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/18/bolton-trump-foreign-policy-1501932 (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/18/bolton-trump-foreign-policy-1501932)




That excerpt  says it all...and I agree with Bolton.
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: txradioguy on September 18, 2019, 09:33:29 pm
The president is taking FAR too advice from the pukes in the Department of State for my liking.

Right now its Rand Paul that has his ear on this stuff...worse than the State Department IMHO.
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: Applewood on September 18, 2019, 09:45:52 pm
I don't think a military strike against Iran was a good idea, but overall, I think Bolton was right about 'most everything and he gave good advice.  Just too bad Trump didn't listen to him. 

Wonder if Trump will listen to the new guy. 
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: Absalom on September 19, 2019, 02:38:58 am
Great leaders hardly need a posse of advisers, as they are wise at their core.
Trump's first and only impulse is to run off at the mouth; never to listen and reflect.
As such he will never be conflated w/the wise leaders of history.
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: Chosen Daughter on September 19, 2019, 03:02:37 am
Bolton is right.  And now Trump is having a spat with Lindsey Graham over Iran.
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 19, 2019, 12:48:35 pm
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Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy

Well, this is your problem, John.  Like it or not this is the President's foreign policy.  If you don't like it, put on your big boy pants and run for President.  If you win, you can usher in the "Bolton foreign policy" (God help us).

Until such time, stop whining and accept that an "advisor" does not set policy.

Thank you for your service.  Now stop undermining the United States.
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: txradioguy on September 19, 2019, 01:00:50 pm
Well, this is your problem, John.  Like it or not this is the President's foreign policy.  If you don't like it, put on your big boy pants and run for President.  If you win, you can usher in the "Bolton foreign policy" (God help us).

Until such time, stop whining and accept that an "advisor" does not set policy.

Thank you for your service.  Now stop undermining the United States.

Oh look...the fire department is here:

(https://www.yourdictionary.com/images/definitions/lg/4532.firefighter.jpg)
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 19, 2019, 01:05:36 pm
Oh look...the fire department is here:

(https://www.yourdictionary.com/images/definitions/lg/4532.firefighter.jpg)

More deep thoughts from the peanut gallery.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: txradioguy on September 19, 2019, 01:08:30 pm
More deep thoughts from the peanut gallery.   :laugh:

Remind me of the last time you posted anything resembling a deep thought on here? 

Go ahead...I'll wait.

Your constant fire fighting and White Knighting for Trump doesn't count.
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: Bigun on September 19, 2019, 01:09:43 pm
Remind me of the last time you posted anything resembling a deep thought on here? 

Go ahead...I'll wait.

Your constant fire fighting and White Knighting for Trump doesn't count.

 :yowsa: pointing-up
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: Applewood on September 19, 2019, 01:09:49 pm
Well, this is your problem, John.  Like it or not this is the President's foreign policy.  If you don't like it, put on your big boy pants and run for President.  If you win, you can usher in the "Bolton foreign policy" (God help us).

Until such time, stop whining and accept that an "advisor" does not set policy.

Thank you for your service.  Now stop undermining the United States.

I am convinced that Trump doesn't have a foreign policy.  In fact, I don't think he has a set policy on anything.  His "policy" changes daily, maybe hourly.  Depends on who has his ear at any given moment.   

Bolton knows his stuff.  Had Trump actually listened to him, we wouldn't have the chaos we have now. 
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: txradioguy on September 19, 2019, 01:10:52 pm
I am convinced that Trump doesn't have a foreign policy.  In fact, I don't think he has a set policy on anything.  His "policy" changes daily, maybe hourly.  Depends on who has his ear at any given moment.   

Bolton knows his stuff.  Had Trump actually listened to him, we wouldn't have the chaos we have now.

@Applewood Exactly.

Now...get ready...accusations of "warmonger"..."neocon"...and "wanting to start a war with Iran" coming in 3...2...1...
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: Applewood on September 19, 2019, 01:15:00 pm
@Applewood Exactly.

Now...get ready...accusations of "warmonger"..."neocon"...and "wanting to start a war with Iran" coming in 3...2...1...

Not to mention -- haters and traitors. 
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: aligncare on September 19, 2019, 01:18:40 pm
Remind me of the last time you posted anything resembling a deep thought on here? 

Go ahead...I'll wait.

Your constant fire fighting and White Knighting for Trump doesn't count.

You’ve got to be kidding. I’ve read more 5 star posts from @Right_in_Virginia than anyone else here; and all modesty aside, that includes me.
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: txradioguy on September 19, 2019, 01:24:34 pm
You’ve got to be kidding. I’ve read more 5 star posts from @Right_in_Virginia than anyone else here; and all modesty aside, that includes me.

Of course you do...bless your heart. 

(https://rationalmale.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/white-knight.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: Axeslinger on September 19, 2019, 01:28:37 pm
@txradioguy
Why, it almost sounds as though you didn’t think drooling sycophancy constitutes deep thinking.

 :beer:
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: txradioguy on September 19, 2019, 01:35:41 pm
@txradioguy
Why, it almost sounds as though you didn’t think drooling sycophancy constitutes deep thinking.

 :beer:

@Axeslinger never have...never will brother.  :beer:
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 19, 2019, 04:47:09 pm
Remind me of the last time you posted anything resembling a deep thought on here?    Go ahead...I'll wait.  Your constant fire fighting and White Knighting for Trump doesn't count. 

Sweetie, I don't have to do fire fighting for the President or anyone else. But, I admit every now and then I will stop to mop up the NT flop sweat to make room for facts and truth.  Alas, it is a thankless job … but I consider it a privilege.

As for my posting deep thoughts.... well, take a gander over your head.  I'm sure you'll find them there. 

Cheers  @txradioguy   :beer:





Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 19, 2019, 04:49:27 pm
You’ve got to be kidding. I’ve read more 5 star posts from @Right_in_Virginia than anyone else here; and all modesty aside, that includes me.

Thank you kindly, sir.  I very much appreciate your support.   happy77

@aligncare   
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: Absalom on September 19, 2019, 06:39:22 pm
As we age, hopefully we learn from experience, changing as necessary for our own good.
But never Trump, who is the same incorrigible 10 year old, now in his seventies.
Same attitude, same behavior, same frown/smirk, same blather and all the rest.
As days's become weeks then months, his Fan Club doubles then triples down in their
admiration as he can do no wrong 'cuz he's a stable genius'. Why of course he is!
In many ways his Fans resemble those fanatics consumed by idolatry and impervious to reality.
Sadly denial such as this always ends poorly as history attests.


 
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: corbe on September 19, 2019, 06:55:21 pm
   It's a tremendously thankless job, especially here, but someone's got to do it @txradioguy and she plays her role very well.
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: Sanguine on September 19, 2019, 09:49:00 pm
BKMK
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: txradioguy on September 19, 2019, 09:52:11 pm
   It's a tremendously thankless job, especially here, but someone's got to do it @txradioguy and she plays her role very well.

@corbe indeed she does.
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: Mod1 on September 19, 2019, 09:53:31 pm
Let's stick with the topic.
Title: Re: Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors
Post by: libertybele on September 19, 2019, 10:13:06 pm
I am convinced that Trump doesn't have a foreign policy.  In fact, I don't think he has a set policy on anything.  His "policy" changes daily, maybe hourly.  Depends on who has his ear at any given moment.   

Bolton knows his stuff.  Had Trump actually listened to him, we wouldn't have the chaos we have now.

I tend to agree.  Trump doesn't seem to have a foreign policy, nor set policies, and yes indeed his policies seem to change  with which ever way the wind is blowing. I believe that he is largely influenced by his Princess and her frog.  I think most of us called it right; we were afraid he wouldn't take the advice given to him from the experts.  If he doesn't like the advice given, he dismisses them or uses them as scapegoats.