Trump says US will impose 5% tariff on all Mexican imports from June 10
CNBC, May 30, 2019
The U.S. will impose a 5% tariff on all Mexican imports from June 10 — and more duties will be added in the coming months if Mexico does not take action “to dramatically reduce or eliminate the number of illegal aliens†crossing into the U.S., the White House said Thursday.
It comes as U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer on Thursday sent a letter to congressional leaders, kick starting the process of approving updates to the North American Free Trade Agreement.
U.S. President Donald Trump first announced the Mexico tariffs via Twitter.
The United States imported $346.5 billion of goods in 2018, an increase of 10.3 percent over the year prior. The 2018 total accounted for 13.6 percent of overall U.S. imports that year.
“If the illegal migration crisis is alleviated through effective actions taken by Mexico, to be determined in our sole discretion and judgment, the Tariffs will be removed. If the crisis persists, however, the Tariffs will be raised to 10 percent on July 1, 2019,†the White House said.
“Tariffs will be increased to 15 percent on August 1, 2019, to 20 percent on September 1, 2019, and to 25 percent on October 1, 2019,†it added.
“Tariffs will permanently remain at the 25 percent level unless and until Mexico substantially stops the illegal inflow of aliens coming through its territory.â€
More: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/31/trump-says-us-will-impose-5percent-tariff-on-all-mexican-imports-from-june-10.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/31/trump-says-us-will-impose-5percent-tariff-on-all-mexican-imports-from-june-10.html)
Wow a 2 front trade war. What a dunce.
Sounds good to me, except...
... They should have made it TEN percent, or Twelve.
... and then used the money raised for wall construction.
From my understanding, if Mexico doesn't stop the influx of ILLEGALS, the tariff will continue to rise until it reaches 25% and stay there until such time as the invasion stops.
Why would they care?
A) They aren’t paying the tariffs
B) They’re getting rid of people they don’t want anyway.
Wow a 2 front trade war. What a dunce.
Get ready to readjust your budgets BIGLY!@libertybele
@libertybele
Hi, Liberty. I am at my small computer in the kitchen right now and it is limited. Tomorrow, I'll be in my work area where the "boss" computer is, and will put, on this thread, to you, an explanation of how tariffs work. The Forbes Company wrote this and explains in detail how you and I (and everyone else) will pay the tariff put on Chinese goods, Mexican goods, coming to this country. This Forbes piece also explains in detail what happens when a tariff is put on American companies' products going into China and into Mexico. There is much misinformation about tariffs and it helps to know how it really works.
@edpc Hi, edpc. I'll ping you to the info. I put on tomorrow.
...hmm.... according to Politco, Trump's trade war with China is actually set to make Mexico great .... perhaps the tariff on Mexico has another objective.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/05/16/trumps-trade-war-is-making-mexico-great-226876 (https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/05/16/trumps-trade-war-is-making-mexico-great-226876)
On top of that, the USMCA seems to be poised to benefit Mexico and Canada, more than the USA.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/10/01/comparison-nafta-and-usmca-trade-agreements/1487163002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/10/01/comparison-nafta-and-usmca-trade-agreements/1487163002/)
Can we put lipstick on a pig? This is Trumps answer? Memorial Day was a record setter at the border. Never before 202,000 illegals crossed. Well probably more that is just the number they caught.
We just cant wait for you to post your information on how it "really works" Please ping me when you post the Forbes propaganda. Thank you.
A new record. Even more winning!
If you’re not interested in what Forbes has to say about it, perhaps you’ll listen to the advice Trump’s economic adviser tried to give him, prior to joining the administration and having a coronary.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/03/kudlow-mr-president-tariffs-are-really-tax-hikes.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/03/kudlow-mr-president-tariffs-are-really-tax-hikes.html)
Sounds good to me, except...
... They should have made it TEN percent, or Twelve.
... and then used the money raised for wall construction.
In another thread I was told to stop worrying about this trade war; everything is fine; I'm just too stupid to understand the stock market and the economy; this is going to make America great again. Or something.
The man child in the White House is screwing us, including the ones who elected him. And his fans aren't smart enough to realize it.
Get ready to readjust your budgets BIGLY!
This will hurt both consumers and investors. But the root cause is neither Congress nor the courts will lift a finger to help.
Reading through the replies it appears many in favor of stopping the invasion on our Southern border should consider a run for Congress. They can raise the proverbial sword of Damocles during the campaign, but once elected these same few could block initiatives to make an end run around the courts and actually do something. It's a natural fit.
On top of that, the USMCA seems to be poised to benefit Mexico and Canada, more than the USA.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/10/01/comparison-nafta-and-usmca-trade-agreements/1487163002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/10/01/comparison-nafta-and-usmca-trade-agreements/1487163002/)
For cripes' sake, it's too damned early for such ginned up hyperbole.
Last night, just hours after the President's tweet, Mexico requested a meeting for today with the administration to discuss how best to prevent the tariffs.
“Mexico’s President Lopez Obrador asks Trump to have U.S. officials meet with the Mexican foreign minister in Washington on Friday to seek a solution that benefits both nations,†Reuters reported via twitter.
It appears the President now has Mexico's undivided attention. (This is good news)
As I've, predicted before; Get ready for a North American Union and a Superhighway joining the U.S., Mexico and Canada. Trump and cronies will profit handsomely as well as some of those in Congress.
I know that this is going to come as a shock to his supporters, (reality check) but Trump NEVER intended to build a wall; that was only a campaign promise to get him elected and to stop a true conservative from being seated in the oval office.
For cripes' sake, it's too damned early for such ginned up hyperbole.
Last night, just hours after the President's tweet, Mexico requested a meeting for today with the administration to discuss how best to prevent the tariffs.
“Mexico’s President Lopez Obrador asks Trump to have U.S. officials meet with the Mexican foreign minister in Washington on Friday to seek a solution that benefits both nations,†Reuters reported via twitter.
It appears the President now has Mexico's undivided attention. (This is good news)
Donald J. Trump
â€Verified account @realDonaldTrump
In order not to pay Tariffs, if they start rising, companies will leave Mexico, which has taken 30% of our Auto Industry, and come back home to the USA. Mexico must take back their country from the drug lords and cartels. The Tariff is about stopping drugs as well as illegals!
7:27 AM - 31 May 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1134466523114999809
@libertybele
@edpc
Here is the Forbes article about tariffs (include a Mexico tariff as it works the same way with any country). Consider the rest in quotes:
China Trade War: What Is A Tariff And Who Pays It?
???? What ??? Gee, seems to me DJT PROMISED his supporters that he would build a big beautiful wall and Mexico was going to pay for it!!! So .... it appears that his supporters still refuse to believe that they've been duped!!!
Still waiting for his supporters explanation as to why he waited to take action on the border until after the GOP house majority was lost AND why he signed a bill allowing states to opt out of a barrier???
At least he discarded that ridiculous idea, announced just last month, that he was gonna give Mexico a year to get their $hit together on Immigration.
Two things:
1. There will be never a North America Union.
2. There is nothing wrong with a super highway.
Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer, @libertybele . Besides, from what I've read, less than 50 miles of new fence has been built, the rest of it are repairs to old fence.
Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer, @libertybele . Besides, from what I've read, less than 50 miles of new fence has been built, the rest of it are repairs to old fence.
After Kim executed his envoy, I'll bet the WH staff is really, really nervous. They know how the President relates to Putin, Kim, and other bad guys.
Just think how bad it would be without those 50 miles. #FinishTheWall
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,363420.msg1980718.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,363420.msg1980718.html)
Border Patrol Sees 'Busiest' Day Arresting Migrants On Memorial Day
@Once-Ler
I was always told by Trump fans that Trump is not a politician. But he is in that he only really cares about people when he's running for office. Any other time all he cares about is himself. This is what politicians do. They promise the moon when they are running for office, but once they get in, the promises are forgotten.
Trump wasted his whole first term in office, particularly the first couple of years when he had a Republican majority in both houses of C congress. Now that he has lost the house ,may well lose the senate and wants to run for a second term, he is making noises like he's really going to do something about the promises he made when he was running for his first term. Only what he has been doing has been largely unsuccessful and particularly in the case of his trade war, about to destroy us.
The group who took up private donations and has started to build; that project has been halted by a cease and desist order.
Yes, 50 miles is 50 miles that we didn't have before. I get that. The wall will never be completed because of the bill that Trump signed allowing states to opt out of a border --- that's what people don't realize and his supporters refuse to acknowledge.
@Once-Ler
I was always told by Trump fans that Trump is not a politician. But he is in that he only really cares about people when he's running for office. Any other time all he cares about is himself. This is what politicians do. They promise the moon when they are running for office, but once they get in, the promises are forgotten.
Trump wasted his whole first term in office, particularly the first couple of years when he had a Republican majority in both houses of C congress. Now that he has lost the house ,may well lose the senate and wants to run for a second term, he is making noises like he's really going to do something about the promises he made when he was running for his first term. Only what he has been doing has been largely unsuccessful and particularly in the case of his trade war, about to destroy us.
Let's say it costs $1,000 dollars to build a widget in Mexico. Building that same widget in the USA costs $2,000
dues to higher labor rates and environment related rules. Now who in their right mind would ever buy the Made In
USA widget? So Mexico makes all the widgets, gets all the widget making jobs and Mexico get all the US money.
This is not at all good for the US economy but there is something the USA can do. The USA can put a tariff on
Mexican widgets so Mexican Widgets cost about as much as US widgets. Leveling the playing field so to speak. It
is what just about every other country does to our widgets so I am fine with using tariffs to gain a desired goal.
Those that only care about themselves and do not care about the country will say why should I pay $2,000 when
I could pay $1,000. Back in the day the US knew tariffs were a good thing for the country and it's citizens. "If we
make IT here, we will have IT and we will have the money too".
@libertybele
I couldn't agree more. Sorry I should have included a sarcasm tag with that last post. The point I failed to make was Trump is failing spectacularly on the border. He has made the problem worse with threats and promises he can't fulfill.
Let's say it costs $1,000 dollars to build a widget in Mexico. Building that same widget in the USA costs $2,000
dues to higher labor rates and environment related rules. Now who in their right mind would ever buy the Made In
USA widget? So Mexico makes all the widgets, gets all the widget making jobs and Mexico get all the US money.
This is not at all good for the US economy but there is something the USA can do. The USA can put a tariff on
Mexican widgets so Mexican Widgets cost about as much as US widgets. Leveling the playing field so to speak. It
is what just about every other country does to our widgets so I am fine with using tariffs to gain a desired goal.
Those that only care about themselves and do not care about the country will say why should I pay $2,000 when
I could pay $1,000. Back in the day the US knew tariffs were a good thing for the country and it's citizens. "If we
make IT here, we will have IT and we will have the money too".
One important point you didn't mention @jpsb is that a significant part of the extra $1K that we pay for our widgets "made in USA' goes to Labor Unions which donate 95% of their billions to elect democrats. How is that any different than subsidizing the cartels in Mexico, not very much.
Those that only care about themselves and do not care about the country will say why should I pay $2,000 when I could pay $1,000. Back in the day the US knew tariffs were a good thing for the country and it's citizens. "If we make IT here, we will have IT and we will have the money too".
One important point you didn't mention @jpsb is that a significant part of the extra $1K that we pay for our widgets "made in USA' goes to Labor Unions which donate 95% of their billions to elect democrats. How is that any different than subsidizing the cartels in Mexico, not very much.
That’s absurd. You’re missing a key point. Placing a tariff on something to equal the playing field only makes that item more expensive. You’re incorrectly making the assumption that the consumption will remain the same, with increased cost. Conservatives always say, “If you want people to stop buying something, tax it.†That’s exactly what a tariff is.
People buy 70†flatscreen TVs, the latest iPhones, or a new sneaker style, because they can, not because they need. When you begin to make that item more expensive, people re-prioritize. We understand how this happens, when the left proposes a ridiculous minimum wage. Yet, we’re supposed to think tariffs are great, because ‘our guy’ says so.
Trump wasted his whole first term in office, particularly the first couple of years when he had a Republican majority in both houses of C congress. Now that he has lost the house ,may well lose the senate and wants to run for a second term, he is making noises like he's really going to do something about the promises he made when he was running for his first term. Only what he has been doing has been largely unsuccessful and particularly in the case of his trade war, about to destroy us.
Thing is, those "widgets" are no longer made in this country and, despite Trump's promises, they still won't be made in the US. Only way manufacturing might come back to the US would be if the unions no longer have their power and that's not going to happen. The Democrats will see to that.
I just lost precious time I'll never get back reading through this "discussion". It's been a while since I've had the time to do this during the day. And, wow …. IMHO, our resident shut-ins are in desperate need of a change in scenery and a dose of fresh air just to loosen the mental cobwebs. Truly.
Godspeed!
I have long been a supporter of tariffs. I studied US history and I saw how the US grew the greatest economy the world even seen behind high tariff walls. That great economy has been hallowed out by this insanity called "free trade". Every other country uses tariffs to protect their economy, we are being played for suckers by not doing the same.
I just lost precious time I'll never get back reading through this "discussion". It's been a while since I've had the time to do this during the day. And, wow …. IMHO, our resident shut-ins are in desperate need of a change in scenery and a dose of fresh air just to loosen the mental cobwebs. Truly.
Godspeed!
Then you really suck at history. We didn’t build a strong economy through tariffs. The reason why we were able to have such a strong economy is because we were largely untouched, by two major wars, in the 20th century, and were the last person standing. After we rebuilt other nations, we priced ourselves out of places, like the steel market and auto industry, because we didn’t modernize or build a good product.
Do yourself a favor @Right_in_Virginia; heed your own words. Get a change of scenery, get some fresh air and hopefully it will not only loosen your mental cobwebs but open your eyes to reality.
That’s absurd. You’re missing a key point. Placing a tariff on something to equal the playing field only makes that item more expensive. You’re incorrectly making the assumption that the consumption will remain the same, with increased cost. Conservatives always say, “If you want people to stop buying something, tax it.†That’s exactly what a tariff is. People buy 70†flatscreen TVs, the latest iPhones, or a new sneaker style, because they can, not because they need. When you begin to make that item more expensive, people re-prioritize. We understand how this happens, when the left proposes a ridiculous minimum wage. Yet, we’re supposed to think tariffs are great, because ‘our guy’ says so.@edpc
Hey @libertybele --- Ping me when you have an original thought --- but don't throw a tantrum if I miss it over the next couple of hours. We'll be sitting down to some fresh seafood and maybe a Bloody Mary or two harborside --- and all electronics will be left behind. :seeya:
Mexico is already trying to remedy this.
Fine with me, if we stiff foreign adversaries such as China and Cuba. And while, we don't exactly consider Mexico that, there workers send back millions if not billions to the interior every year. As said, our system is flawed and faulty. We should not bow to their corrupt system and system that in some ways, severely restricts human rights. We won't do away with all of that but we can try to some.
Revisionist history why were we called the "arsenal of democracy" at the start of WW2? Hint, because we had the manufacturing capability to produce all the arms Britain and Russia needed to fight Axis powers plus the ability to rearm our Army, Navy and Air Core. That economy was built from 1865 to 1941 behind tariffs walls. I'd rather see Americans with jobs then sent money to China so they can build a strong military to attack us.
The Twin Plants at the border, there certainly is an economy there that should not be upset. I know someone who worked for a major medical devices supplier, he told me, they'd be picked up in an armored van in El Paso to go do business in Juarez. And when, the ground was broken to set up a new facility in Juarez, they found bodies buried at the site. Pretty hairy stuff.
That's a nice rewrite of history, but I seem to remember a Republican Congress and particularly Senate that would barely work with him and peel off to the other side whenever legislation to fix the problem was voted on, among other things.Yet I remember Trump signing every bloated budget without any new border funding, cuts to PP, and the last one that let states opt out of the wall. I remember a Congress that passed a tax-cut and lots of judges. Who is rewriting history?
(*cough* John McCain *cough*)
Yet I remember Trump signing every bloated budget without any new border funding, cuts to PP, and the last one that let states opt out of the wall. I remember a Congress that passed a tax-cut and lots of judges. Who is rewriting history?
With a debt ceiling gun held to his head and a complicit Congressional GOP.
So you admit Trump has gotten some things done?
Thanks for making my point.
With a debt ceiling gun held to his head and a complicit Congressional GOP.Trump has gotten some things done. Not enough, and some of it bad stuff.
So you admit Trump has gotten some things done?
Thanks for making my point.
Robert Schlesinger @rschles
I’m old enough to remember when Republicans thought increasing taxes was a mortal sin. But I guess when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything.
QuoteRobert Schlesinger @rschles
I’m old enough to remember when Republicans thought increasing taxes was a mortal sin. But I guess when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything.
That's a nice rewrite of history, but I seem to remember a Republican Congress and particularly Senate that would barely work with him and peel off to the other side whenever legislation to fix the problem was voted on, among other things.
(*cough* John McCain *cough*)
And I remember from just about the first day of his administration, Trump bitched and moaned about the Republicans in both houses, calling them names and not willing to work with them either. This year he has had two "bipartisan" meetings that I know of where he whined and moaned, stomped his feet and ultimately walked out of because he didn't get his way.
You can blame the lumps in both houses of congress and I will acknowledge that they are corrupt, lazy and do nothing. But Trump is no better. All of them -- Trump and the Republicans had no intention of keeping their promises to the voters and still don't. Now that Trump is nearing the end of his first term and wants a second, he is suddenly interested in the promises he made, particularly illegal immigration. So he is making a lot of noise and doing things that have failed and will fail, with the result that all of us will be screwed. You and your fellow Trump fans who think you are financially secure because Trump says so and won't heed the warnings of those who know better are in for a big, nasty surprise.
Quite the opposite, he has been doing everything from the Executive angle that he can, despite the Judicial obstructing him at every turn.
At the end of the day, only the Legislative can make real change, and I don't see the GOP, other than Judicial nominations, putting up bills to solve this country's problems.
We do have separate-but-equal branches of govt, correct?
Apparently now we do as opposed to the 8 years of obummer when he got whatever the F#%k he wanted AND ramrodded all the Courts to insure it. I am not suggesting Trump pull an obummer BUT his Administration has left much to be desired for when it comes to implementing his policy, particularly before the Courts.
I'll rack it up to inexperience OR inability.
He's won quite a few court cases. Obama in fact lost quite a few.
Let's not forget the spike in 'nationwide injunctions' against Trump to drag things out as a liberal last-resort tactic.
Ultimately though, he prevails.
https://www.propublica.org/article/president-donald-trump-losses-fred-barbash-washington-post-q-and-a (https://www.propublica.org/article/president-donald-trump-losses-fred-barbash-washington-post-q-and-a)
Federal judges have ruled against the Trump administration at least 63 times over the past two years, an extraordinary record of legal defeat that has stymied large parts of the president’s agenda on the environment, immigration and other matters.
so much winning.
Apparently now we do as opposed to the 8 years of obummer when he got whatever the F#%k he wanted AND ramrodded all the Courts to insure it. I am not suggesting Trump pull an obummer BUT his Administration has left much to be desired for when it comes to implementing his policy, particularly before the Courts.
I'll rack it up to inexperience OR inability.
I'm sure the Washington Compost has unimpeachable numbers that aren't the least bit skewed to support their position.
But I'm sure you aren't interested in looking any deeper when shaking pom-poms are much more fun.
Both. When Trump took office he was absolutely clueless. The GOP has been FAILING for quite a long time. They've had a majority for 4 years and sat on their butts and did nothing but blame the DEMS. Should Trump get re-elected in 2020, I don't anticipate that things will get any better. You cannot keep electing the same idiots that keep doing the same thing and expect different results.If only there was a candidate who promised to Drain the Swamp
Nice of you to provide nothing to back up your position. Good job.
Quite the opposite, he has been doing everything from the Executive angle that he can, despite the Judicial obstructing him at every turn.
At the end of the day, only the Legislative can make real change, and I don't see the GOP, other than Judicial nominations, putting up bills to solve this country's problems.
We do have separate-but-equal branches of govt, correct?
He has done nothing to work with congress to fulfill his promises. Yes, congress has to prepare legislation, pass it and send it to his desk to sign. But why didn't he, as president of the US, use the considerable influence of his office upon his own party, to sit down with them and hammer out the necessary legislation -- and, if necessary, hammer a few heads to get those lazy lumps moving? As far as I can tell, he sat on his backside and waited for them to do their job. Isn't he supposed to be the successful businessman with a reputation for motivating people and getting things done?
And don't tell me he can't do that because government is different from business. He made promises. They made promises. If he wanted to fulfill those promises, he could have done more than he did. Obviously, neither he nor the rest of them wanted to keep their promises to the voters.
Why should he have to? GOP Congressional leaders don't have to wait for him to get things done. If they were wanting to advance the agenda, bills should have been landing on his desk.Exactly. Some people need to be reminded how we get laws passed in this country.
Why should he have to? GOP Congressional leaders don't have to wait for him to get things done. If they were wanting to advance the agenda, bills should have been landing on his desk.
Why should he have to? GOP Congressional leaders don't have to wait for him to get things done. If they were wanting to advance the agenda, bills should have been landing on his desk.
Exactly. Some people need to be reminded how we get laws passed in this country.
https://www.propublica.org/article/president-donald-trump-losses-fred-barbash-washington-post-q-and-a (https://www.propublica.org/article/president-donald-trump-losses-fred-barbash-washington-post-q-and-a)Did the Post drill down to determine how many of these rulings were either overturned or ruled by Obama-appointed judges?
Federal judges have ruled against the Trump administration at least 63 times over the past two years, an extraordinary record of legal defeat that has stymied large parts of the president’s agenda on the environment, immigration and other matters.
so much winning.
Getting Education Policy Passed
Bush’s decision making style, while detrimental in later policy processes, complemented his first legislative victory. “On many important issues, such as the No Child Left Behind bill, the decision process worked wellâ€. 8 Congress and the public rallied with George Bush because he sold this policy in a very effective manner. President Bush’s personality was superb for campaigning. He was enthusiastic, assertive, and extremely personable, all characteristics that were valuable in getting a strong coalition together to support this issue. He used his tactics in governing by campaigning to push this top priority through Congress. It fit his personality well, as he had to delegate work and broadly talk about the legislation aggressively and moved this legislation forward. “Even when he has taken stands, Bush typically has not taken a personal role in negotiating details of legislation until late in the consideration of a billâ€. On his priority issues, he has tended to focus on a few essentials, cede ground when necessary to reach his ultimate objective, and rely on Republican leaders to keep the troops in lineâ€. 9 This is a prominent example of how Bush operated within his administration, acting as the chief delegator, but never becoming involved in policy detail. This process involving the No Child Left Behind Act matched President Bush’s style and it worked well in getting this priority through the Legislature.
The importance of President Bush’s commitment to education change was not just personal, but was used, in part, to help shape Bush’s legacy. The administration knew that they wanted a new expansive federal education policy to prove that the GOP was moving in a different direction. It would be the President’s first deterrence from Republican standards; it would become an action that would define his Presidency. Bush broke away from the GOP’s opposition to a lively federal role in education policy and politics. George Bush stayed the course and turned away from previous conservative positions such as the 1994 Contract with America and the 1996 Republican Party platform which had promised to abolish the United States Department of Education. The focus on passage of this Act would be to get this group on board.
The Republican ideology had traditionally been unreceptive to expansion of government into education, claiming that an expansive federal policy would become an intrusion into the lives of American citizens. Even House Majority Leader John Boehner in the lead up to the election that, “it is clear that the current experiment of having the federal government heavily involved in education has failed,†and voted to abolish the Dept. of Education. The new “compassionate conservative†President would use this accomplishment to show America that Republicans could deliver on an issue that Democrats had championed in the past. It was a strategic move, changing America’s outlook on Republicans while gaining respect politically for compromising with the opposition. It worked and bipartisanship on the bill came together.
With the help of a close group working within the White House, President Bush would see his ideas begin to develop. This focus on general principles, gut instinct, and loyalty were the aspects of the office that George Bush acted and reacted upon. He used his “Decider†power when his agenda was not going according to plan. “He found success not by compromise but by working with Democrats who shared his goal to fashion a policy whose time had come. Bush’s knowledge of education and his ebullient personality combined to make him an effective salesman for policies that elites had already by and large acceptedâ€. 10 As previously mentioned, President Bush enjoyed the top-down approach, where he would be the puppeteer and watch from afar the progress that his close allies were achieving in Congress.
With the passage the Bush administration set out to close the inherent achievement gap in the American school system and push to create outstanding academic institutions for all students. The NCLB enactment became an imprint of the legacy of George W. Bush. That success was a combination of the right place at the right time in tandem with President Bush’s personality commitment to education and need for results. With this passage, he proved to America that he was the correct person to the job, and lived up to what he set out in his campaign. The House of Representatives passed the bill on May 23, 2001 (voting 384-45) and United States Senate passed it on June 14, 2001 (voting 91-8). President Bush signed it into law on January 8, 2002.
Let's say it costs $1,000 dollars to build a widget in Mexico. Building that same widget in the USA costs $2,000
dues to higher labor rates and environment related rules. Now who in their right mind would ever buy the Made In
USA widget? So Mexico makes all the widgets, gets all the widget making jobs and Mexico get all the US money.
This is not at all good for the US economy but there is something the USA can do. The USA can put a tariff on
Mexican widgets so Mexican Widgets cost about as much as US widgets. Leveling the playing field so to speak. It
is what just about every other country does to our widgets so I am fine with using tariffs to gain a desired goal.
Those that only care about themselves and do not care about the country will say why should I pay $2,000 when
I could pay $1,000. Back in the day the US knew tariffs were a good thing for the country and it's citizens. "If we
make IT here, we will have IT and we will have the money too".
If you are talking about what happened after WWII let me explain this to you. Up to the 1960s no other country had the ability to make widgets CAUSE THE REST OF THE WORLD WAS DEVASTATED by the war. None of our factories got hit.
So excuse me for wanting to pay for a cheaper widget. More money for me.
But less money for the americans who would otherwise be making the widget, but can’t compete with heavily government-subsidized foreign equivalents.
If you are talking about what happened after WWII let me explain this to you. Up to the 1960s no other country had the ability to make widgets CAUSE THE REST OF THE WORLD WAS DEVASTATED by the war. None of our factories got hit.
So excuse me for wanting to pay for a cheaper widget. More money for me.
And higher taxes for you to pay for all the programs for all the poor saps put out of work.
But less money for the americans who would otherwise be making the widget, but can’t compete with heavily government-subsidized foreign equivalents.
There are lots of widgets made in right to work states, and IIRC the USSC ruled that union members that do not
want to pay union dues don't have to pay. So your point is mute. Tariffs keep jobs in the USA that would other
wise go over seas.
Donald J. Trump
â€Verified account @realDonaldTrump
In order not to pay Tariffs, if they start rising, companies will leave Mexico, which has taken 30% of our Auto Industry, and come back home to the USA. Mexico must take back their country from the drug lords and cartels. The Tariff is about stopping drugs as well as illegals!
7:27 AM - 31 May 2019
Is he certain about that? Just recently, he said the tariffs on China would make companies leave for places like Vietnam.
The group who took up private donations and has started to build; that project has been halted by a cease and desist order.
Yes, 50 miles is 50 miles that we didn't have before. I get that. The wall will never be completed because of the bill that Trump signed allowing states to opt out of a border --- that's what people don't realize and his supporters refuse to acknowledge.
More than obvious is that a wall can't work if cities can opt out.
@libertybele
I couldn't agree more. Sorry I should have included a sarcasm tag with that last post. The point I failed to make was Trump is failing spectacularly on the border. He has made the problem worse with threats and promises he can't fulfill.
Yeah, that's right. But it will get the traffic off the backs of the ranchers, anyway. That much is good - If it were to actually happen.
Art of the Deal, Baby!
Mexico dispatches team to DC negotiate tariff solution, as Trump demands illegal immigration remedy
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mexico-dispatches-team-to-dc-negotiate-tariff-solution-as-trump-demands-illegal-immigration-remedy (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mexico-dispatches-team-to-dc-negotiate-tariff-solution-as-trump-demands-illegal-immigration-remedy)
This thread wins Fishrrman's "Seinfeld thread award" for the day.
I'm FOR tariffs on Mexico.
25% sounds about right to me.
Or even higher.
We want to cause PAIN in that country -- MUCH PAIN.
And keep up the pressure until they begin to think about halting the illegal invaders at their own border.
Of course, this probably isn't going to solve the border crisis, but it's a start.
There's only ONE THING that "solves" the illegal invasion:
A WALL.
And perhaps closing the border, which I advocate.
Closing it completely -- neither people nor goods coming across.
Goods can be transported via ships, which are easier to police.
People can be directed to ships or planes, again, easier to police.
I have no power to do anything (other than cast one vote on election day).
But if I did, that border would be CLOSED.
Maybe... permanently.
Why not just move to the lower cost of living place if that is your primary motivation?
So excuse me for wanting to pay for a cheaper widget. More money for me.
But more for me.
If you mean me -- I know how the legislative system works. But it seems Trump and the rest of his party don't.Seems you are still confused on how it works. What legislative bills can Trump approve other than what is passed by Congress?
Seems you are still confused on how it works. What legislative bills can Trump approve other than what is passed by Congress?
:thud:The NCLB was a horrible government intrusion so bad that it is now essentially defunct as those measures are managed for the most part by the states, the rightful place for direction on Education, not federal.
For the umpteenth time: Yes, I know he can't originate and pass legislation. That job belongs to congress. But as I've said a million times already -- he could have worked with congress to get them moving.
I n suggest you read corbe's post about NCLB. President Bush showed with that legislation how a real president -- a leader -- can get things done.
Art of the Deal, Baby!
Mexico dispatches team to DC negotiate tariff solution, as Trump demands illegal immigration remedy
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mexico-dispatches-team-to-dc-negotiate-tariff-solution-as-trump-demands-illegal-immigration-remedy (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mexico-dispatches-team-to-dc-negotiate-tariff-solution-as-trump-demands-illegal-immigration-remedy)
The NCLB was a horrible government intrusion so bad that it is now essentially defunct as those measures are managed for the most part by the states, the rightful place for direction on Education, not federal.
Not a good example to bring up on 'how to get things done'.
Picked up 2 bottles of Cuervo today at the Liquor store, so I'm ready for whatever.
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The NCLB was a horrible government intrusion so bad that it is now essentially defunct as those measures are managed for the most part by the states, the rightful place for direction on Education, not federal.
Not a good example to bring up on 'how to get things done'.
GWB campaigned on Education Reform extensively (becoming NCLB) in 2000.
He got in done in a year, in spite of 9/11. /JS
http://www.inquiriesjournal.com/articles/258/george-bush-and-no-child-left-behind-a-federalist-perspective (http://www.inquiriesjournal.com/articles/258/george-bush-and-no-child-left-behind-a-federalist-perspective)
Yes it was bad legislation IMO and I said to corbe in my response that I didnt like it. But you're missing the point of my response. The article corbe posted shows how a real leader with the cooperation of congress gets things done.And using a bad law enacted by a Republican President with both houses of Congress also Republican does not make a good example make. It is rare that laws passed by Congress are subsequently debunked and thrown in the garbage like this one.
Maybe you should read corbe's post and my replies in greater detail.
And using a bad law enacted by a Republican President with both houses of Congress also Republican does not make a good example make. It is rare that laws passed by Congress are subsequently debunked and thrown in the garbage like this one.
...
You are deliberately missing the point -- too focused on whether the law was a good one. Missing the forest for the trees.And you missed the entire point that Bush got a law enacted by a Congress controlled by his own party, not in part controlled by radical leftists as is the case now.
I give up. No sense trying to explain this anymore.
So excuse me for wanting to pay for a cheaper widget. More money for me.Widgets are cheap in Nigeria move there.
Widgets are cheap in Nigeria move there.
So where is it written that I have to buy American only?
President Trump's proposed tariffs on Mexican imports – an effort to pressure the country to halt the flow of migrants from Central America – could constitute the biggest tax hike on American consumers in nearly three decades, according to an analysis by the Tax Foundation.
We have seen your posts. I don't think you have ever bought America...
@kevindavis
Yeah, don't you realize that if you don't "buy American," you are a traitor? (/sarc) I remember my late uncle, a rabid union guy, saying that. He nearly had a coronary when his daughter and son-in-law bought their first Toyota. Never mind that the Toyota was likely made in the US and that his "American" car may have been made overseas.
I have bought a few items that were made in the USA. They were no better and sometimes worse than the ones made overseas. But for the most part, the American-made product was more expensive.
Buying American is not going to save jobs, nor will it bring jobs lost to foreign countries back to the US. It is just too dang expensive to make things here. Penalizing the American consumer through tarriffs won't bring back jobs either.
How I spend MY MONEY IS NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS!!!
Kevin. I really love the caps! Give me more.
I think we ought to adopt a rule, akin to Godwin's Law...you lose the argument when you gratuitously and excessively use CAPS in your post.
Volume is no substitute for cognitive thought.
:thud:
I love it. But I must say kevindavis is not a constant violator... but we could turn our eye on the "unamerican" person who posts up that cap shit, all the time.
I love it. But I must say kevindavis is not a constant violator... but we could turn our eye on the "unamerican" person who posts up that cap shit, all the time.
How I spend MY MONEY IS NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS!!!
Word!
Actually, I agreed with kevin's comment. I thought being a conservative meant that we respect an individual's right to spend their money on whatever they damn please...as long as it's legal, of course.
"Buying American" is such a meaningless term in today's economy. I lived in El Paso for 20 years, home of the maquiladoras, and several Southern states now build Mercedes and Beemers with American labor.
It ranks right up there with, "we're gonna build a big, beautiful wall and Mexico's going to pay for it." Good for a hearty cheer at a Trump rally, but not much else.
Absolutely, if not followed by a period a 1 cent tariff on Caps here could end Briefathons forever. We'll work out the woman escape clause later, when they become more reasonable.
Sec. 2 sub paragraph (A) states all Briefer women, regardless of assigned sex at birth, will be 'Grandfathered' into this clause, so neither us will be effected by this @Sanguine.
Sorry, @corbe, but real women were born that way.
No you do not. Once you emigrate to Nigeria, you can buy Nigerian widgets.
So where is it written that I have to buy American only?
My pappy always told me that whoever has the most phone number requests on TBR is the hottest female, so I qualify as being grandfathered in @Sanguine
Who would have thought there were so many horny ol men here?
So, you're telling me that you have more phone number requests than I do? :pondering:
Trump announces new Mexican tariffs in response to migrants
By JILL COLVIN and COLLEEN LONGtoday
WASHINGTON (AP) — In a surprise announcement that could derail a major trade deal, President Donald Trump announced Thursday that he is slapping a 5% tariff on all Mexican imports, effective June 10, to pressure the country to do more to crack down on the surge of Central American migrants trying to cross the U.S. border.
He said the percentage will gradually increase — up to 25% — “until the Illegal Immigration problem is remedied.â€
The decision showed the administration going to new lengths, and looking for new levers, to pressure Mexico to take action — even if those risk upending other policy priorities, like the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, a trade deal that is the cornerstone of Trump’s legislative agenda and seen as beneficial to his reelection effort. It also risks further damaging the already strained relationship between the U.S. and Mexico, two countries whose economics are deeply intertwined.
https://www.apnews.com/afec271c5f9c4fdb82f57b48cb593add (https://www.apnews.com/afec271c5f9c4fdb82f57b48cb593add)
Sounds good to me, except...
... They should have made it TEN percent, or Twelve.
... and then used the money raised for wall construction.
No that'd be Frank. His escort concession was by appointment only...
At least that's what I heard... :whistle:
Let's say it costs $1,000 dollars to build a widget in Mexico. Building that same widget in the USA costs $2,000
dues to higher labor rates and environment related rules. Now who in their right mind would ever buy the Made In
USA widget? So Mexico makes all the widgets, gets all the widget making jobs and Mexico get all the US money.
This is not at all good for the US economy but there is something the USA can do. The USA can put a tariff on
Mexican widgets so Mexican Widgets cost about as much as US widgets. Leveling the playing field so to speak. It
is what just about every other country does to our widgets so I am fine with using tariffs to gain a desired goal.
Those that only care about themselves and do not care about the country will say why should I pay $2,000 when
I could pay $1,000. Back in the day the US knew tariffs were a good thing for the country and it's citizens. "If we
make IT here, we will have IT and we will have the money too".
...... :thumbsup:
We aren't lacking money. it is the DEMON-RAT'S in CONGRESS WHO won't release funds put into their coffers. We have billions from El Chapo drug money. The wall is being built. All LEFTS & <insult removed> on here, are DISLOYAL to America. The ANTI-AMERICANS...who use our constitution & perks, then bad mouth my president. ****slapping
Unfortunately, Trump listened to Ryan and McConnell, and the Republicans pursued healthcare reform. That was a mistake. After that, I thinkk it is apparent that the Senate was never with Trump. Other than the tax legislation, they haven't passed anything of note. And sad to say, there are too many RINOs masquerading as Republicans that were really Democommies.
Trump needs a solid voting majority in both houses, which he never had, to affect the change he promised the American people. If the American people continue to vote for the Democommies, they deserve every ounce of pain they shall receive, along with all the new taxes.
Fact is, the Democommies wish to turn America into what the USSR once was, and collapsed under. Ah yes, the infamous AOC with her concept to pay people, even if they do not work. That is right out of the USSR. It is no mystery why they collapsed.
It is unfortunate that AOC is clueless on history. Perhaps in 50 years, she will know what I knew when I was 16. The Three Stooges made more sense than the clowns in the Democommie Party.
@LegalAmericanA serious question: Do you think TBR is overpopulated with a bunch of Trump haters? Sure, I'm biased but I just don't see it.
Neither group has a firm grip on policy here and as I see it Myst has kept a pretty even hand, way beyond my expectations running a place like this, keeping it interesting and informative.
Of course I could start a Poll on this very question but I have done many variables of this same question since I woke up one morning, alone, in that Category with Mod wrapped around my neck.
I wanted to know your feelings and of course any others that would weigh in.
Thanks for the Heads Up @edpc She can be quite entertaining when the Topic is not Trump or Cruz or mesicans or Mormons and a few other Legal Minorities, oh wait, what am I saying, other than the Mormons, that's all we ever talk about.
Trump's proposed tariffs on Mexico would be biggest tax hike in almost 30 years: report@edpc
https://thehill.com/policy/international/trade/446540-trumps-proposed-tariffs-on-mexico-would-be-biggest-tax-hike-in And the analysis from the Tax Foundation is here: https://taxfoundation.org/trade-china-tariffs-economic-impact/
@edpc
@Applewood
This past Friday, Trump took India off the developing country list; they had a lower US tariff due to being on that list. Now, Trump says they don't deserve to be on that list and it is costing us money. So now, add India as another country who dislikes us due to him. I don't know what India could do to hurt him (us), but I doubt they do nothing. Trump has spent his whole adult life making enemies - that is what he does - that is his goal. In his years before being president, he made enemies of various movie star females; had running verbal wars with them for years and would be doing that now except his has countries now to make his enemies. The trade wars he has going with countries delights him and may destroy this country and not care one bit he did it. He will claim great victory because he is mentally impaired. He is a salesman and that is why he won the election - he got people to believe him and got their vote and he won. That is all he wanted, the publicity that he won.
@edpc
@Applewood
This past Friday, Trump took India off the developing country list; they had a lower US tariff due to being on that list. Now, Trump says they don't deserve to be on that list and it is costing us money. So now, add India as another country who dislikes us due to him. I don't know what India could do to hurt him (us), but I doubt they do nothing. Trump has spent his whole adult life making enemies - that is what he does - that is his goal. In his years before being president, he made enemies of various movie star females; had running verbal wars with them for years and would be doing that now except his has countries now to make his enemies. The trade wars he has going with countries delights him and may destroy this country and not care one bit he did it. He will claim great victory because he is mentally impaired. He is a salesman and that is why he won the election - he got people to believe him and got their vote and he won. That is all he wanted, the publicity that he won.
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@edpcSo your whole rabid point is that Trump acts solely to make enemies. I have seen some Trump-hating diatribes, but that one takes the prize.
@Applewood
This past Friday, Trump took India off the developing country list; they had a lower US tariff due to being on that list. Now, Trump says they don't deserve to be on that list and it is costing us money. So now, add India as another country who dislikes us due to him. I don't know what India could do to hurt him (us), but I doubt they do nothing. Trump has spent his whole adult life making enemies - that is what he does - that is his goal. In his years before being president, he made enemies of various movie star females; had running verbal wars with them for years and would be doing that now except his has countries now to make his enemies. The trade wars he has going with countries delights him and may destroy this country and not care one bit he did it. He will claim great victory because he is mentally impaired. He is a salesman and that is why he won the election - he got people to believe him and got their vote and he won. That is all he wanted, the publicity that he won.
@IsailedawayfromFRThe hatred you have for him is on full display.
Trump does nothing using diplomacy. He writes bad things about a country when he takes action that affects that country. He didn't have to get on twitter and say bad things about India. He gets joy from saying/tweeting bad things about a country just like he does that with individuals.
I live in a German/American town, it's tough being a long haired hippy here, though I do shower regularly (facing away from the nozzle).
@IsailedawayfromFR
Trump does nothing using diplomacy. He writes bad things about a country when he takes action that affects that country. He didn't have to get on twitter and say bad things about India. He gets joy from saying/tweeting bad things about a country just like he does that with individuals.
@Victoria33@Night Hides Not
Sorry, I don't see any 'hatred' toward President Trump, just a recitation of Trump's style. His unfiltered tweets are manna for Trump's base, and manna is the best description of those tweets...his loyal supporters feed off those tweets daily, and twice on Sundays. I get it, he's loved because he's a "fighter." But dammit, he's the President of the United States, with a bully pulpit and all that implies. Unfortunately, he mostly uses that pulpit to bully anyone who dissents with him, or to disparage those whom he fired. I think he'll eventually reach his goal, of having nothing but "acting" Cabinet secretaries. I pretty much tune him out, as we know he can't change. The 2020 election will truly be a lesser of two evils, no matter who the Democrats put up...and I'll never vote for a Democrat.
@Victoria33Some see him the way you describe. His style is not what some call 'politically-correct', but I could care less if the results bear fruit. I am a Norman Schwarzkopf-for-President type of guy.
@IsailedawayfromFR
Sorry, I don't see any 'hatred' toward President Trump, just a recitation of Trump's style. His unfiltered tweets are manna for Trump's base, and manna is the best description of those tweets...his loyal supporters feed off those tweets daily, and twice on Sundays.
I get it, he's loved because he's a "fighter." But dammit, he's the President of the United States, with a bully pulpit and all that implies. Unfortunately, he mostly uses that pulpit to bully anyone who dissents with him, or to disparage those whom he fired. I think he'll eventually reach his goal, of having nothing but "acting" Cabinet secretaries.
I pretty much tune him out, as we know he can't change. The 2020 election will truly be a lesser of two evils, no matter who the Democrats put up...and I'll never vote for a Democrat.
Some see him the way you describe. His style is not what some call 'politically-correct', but I could care less if the results bear fruit. I am a Norman Schwarzkopf-for-President type of guy.
I see him taking actions on long-overdue issues which Congress should be doing but have been derelict in and which his predecessors kicked down the road.
And I for one do not wish him to change, as he gets things done. Having worked corporately for years, I understand he is executing as an executive would, to get to the bottom line, and is not frightened by the politics domestically or internationally of his actions.
And if you believe someone saying 'his goal in life is making enemies' does not exhibit hatred, then I fail to see another example so blatant.
Oh, and BTW, @Victoria33 has yet to comment on the issue at hand that is whether India deserves GSP
...hmmm I see Trump as a person who wants attention and not necessarily to make enemies, but he makes enemies along the way in order to accomplish his agenda. Yes, he sold his supporters a bill of goods because he has absolutely FAILED at the border. There is no denying that. Even IF he manages to curtail the current invasion, hundreds of thousands are now in this country ILLEGALLY. IMHO, the new USMCA, his waiting to take action on the border and now slapping tariffs against Mexico indicate perhaps he has a different objective; certainly not one of building a wall.
As for the trade wars, keep in mind that Trump isn't going to do anything that eventually won't line his pockets in the long run. I do feel that we cannot continue to allow unfair trade practices with China and NAFTA was terrible for this country (thank you Bush Sr.)
So many items are made in China it's ridiculous. Remember the slogan "Look for the Union Label" and Walmart used to always trend towards "Made in the USA"? Gone are those days. NAFTA set in ... and I do believe Trump is trying to take us back to using USA parts and labor for items. Whether or not he will be successful or is going about things the correct way is yet to be seen. So far the trade war with China is beginning to take its toll and Pelosi has stated that she will not even bring the USMCA to a vote! Trying to make an agreement, and then turning around and imposing tariffs on a country that you want to renegotiate with seems ambiguous.
If he does not succeed at the border and the invasion continues, it's really not going to matter, you are correct, he will have destroyed the sovereignty of this country.
For some reason, you believe prior Presidents did more in border issues than the current President.
Playing thread monitor today? :thud:
I don't see any meaningful action on long-term issues, such as border security. After nearly 2 1/2 years in office, less than 10 miles of new fence has been constructed, and records are being set for illegal immigration. Yet all it takes to keep his base mollified are a few tweets and an occasional rally.
I need to save my breath, as I know the response will be "it's the fault of Congress", or any other villain Trump fans can raise. Not without justification, but other Presidents have gotten more done in the past with recalcitrant Congresses.
They just caught a group of 116 Africans from 3 different countries crossing the Rio Grand. Congo was one. These countries are known for Ebola. This is a National Emergency. It isn't just people coming from Latin America.
And I am not sure about the USMCA Trade agreement. I am afraid it will be another back door for increased immigration to the US. With no provision to protect citizens from shouldering the burden for them and their families.
@Chosen Daughter this has been a national emergency, in fact Trump declared it to be a national emergency, yet nothing is being done. The invasion is rapidly increasing. It is ridiculous that Trump didn't address this situation from the beginning and shut down the border. Giving Mexico a year and then slapping a tariff on them is equally ridiculous. Trump teetering back and forth on this issue has been an open invitation to illegals from 50 different countries (last count).
USMCA a back door? I certainly think so ... I see it as the beginning of building infrastructure to join Mexico, the U.S. and Canada -- so --- how do you keep illegals out then?? You can't and he won't. That's not his intention.
I thought Trump dealt with this national emergency with a couple of tweets, and then moved on to more pressing matters, such as whether or not he said Megan Markle was "nasty."Wow, now there is real news or you are simply making things up.
The border security issue is always at the ready for Trump to employ his garbled syntax to keep his base in his corner.
He, and his cronies, need those undocumented workers for Mar Lago and other resorts that won't hire Americans at way below market rates.
Wow, now there is real news or you are simply making things up.
No Americans hired at Mar Largo. What other resorts do you understand do not hire Americans?
Trump properties gave one out of 144 jobs to an American, rest went to foreign workers
A study by Vox of three of President Trump's properties has found a stunning lack of American labor, with foreign guest workers filling in every seasonal position with one exception.
According to recruiting files sent to the U.S. Department of Labor by Mar-a-Lago, Trump National Golf Club in Jupiter, Fla., and Trump National Golf Club in Briarcliff Manor, N.Y., 144 jobs were open from 2016 to 2017.
Workers possessing H-2B visas would reportedly be given 143 of them, operating in such roles as servers, bartenders and housekeepers.
The sole American worker was hired as a cook.
Try doing a search on "mar a lago h1b visas" @IsailedawayfromFR .the article says only 7 Americans applied for 144 job openings, and only one was qualified or wlliing to work for seasonal employment.
Or this:
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-properties-gave-144-jobs-american-article-1.3818600 (https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-properties-gave-144-jobs-american-article-1.3818600)
OK, I call myself out on "undocumented workers", since the guest workers had H-2B visas.
the article says only 7 Americans applied for 144 job openings, and only one was qualified or wlliing to work for seasonal employment.
Hardly a 'won't hire Americans' mantra like you claimed.
What would you have them do to fill those positions if Americans do not even apply for temporary jobs?
There is no public record of Trump properties incurring any penalties related to the H-2 program.
But a 2011 Palm Beach Post article noted that Mar-a-Lago failed to share postings for 90 open positions with a local nonprofit that helps unemployed Americans find jobs. Meanwhile, the club placed newspaper advertisements asking that applicants for housekeeper jobs have high school diplomas, a highly unusual requirement for such a position.
Mar-a-Lago no longer includes an educational requirement for housekeeping positions — which paid $10.68 an hour for the most recent season — but it does require three months’ prior experience “in luxury hospitality setting†and that candidates be “articulate in English.â€
I live in a German/American town, it's tough being a long haired hippy here, though I do shower regularly (facing away from the nozzle).
C'mon up to the mountains @corbe.
Let the hair and beard grow, wear some amount of leather and native accoutrements, mocs (not sandals), and stay away from all that granola-head crap. Wear a Bowie and/or a hatchet everywhere you go...
Eat venison and drink shine...
you'd fit right in.
You can bring a hippie chick with you. They are good for gardening. But not as good at it as a Salish gal.
Hippie chick? We have something much better here.
Aw, you ain't telling me nothing, @Sanguine ... I have sung my praises of hilljillies all the way along... Salish gals included.
I was only trying to accommodate @corbe ... Though around here in female hill-stock, hippy chicks are definitely represented - though they tend to have become quite conservative over the years.
You'd do just fine here too - though if both your legs are the same length... I'd be just a minor disability when side-hillin.
:beer:
My legs? They seem to be the same length. They do fine in our rolling hills.
:silly:
Try doing a search on "mar a lago h1b visas" @IsailedawayfromFR .
Or this:
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-properties-gave-144-jobs-american-article-1.3818600 (https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-properties-gave-144-jobs-american-article-1.3818600)
OK, I call myself out on "undocumented workers", since the guest workers had H-2B visas.
So your whole rabid point is that Trump acts solely to make enemies.
the article says only 7 Americans applied for 144 job openings, and only one was qualified or wlliing to work for seasonal employment.
Hardly a 'won't hire Americans' mantra like you claimed.
What would you have them do to fill those positions if Americans do not even apply for temporary jobs?
rabid?I know exactly what it means and it pertains to the statement I made quite well, thank you.
I do not think that word means what you think it means