The Briefing Room
General Category => Sports/Entertainment/MSM/Social Media => Topic started by: jmyrlefuller on October 17, 2018, 05:33:56 pm
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I just realized that since Bender stopped posting, there doesn't seem to be a place to talk football on here. So, I'm starting a thread... better late than never.
You can talk NFL, college football, whatever on this thread. I only ask that, unless someone pulls a protest stunt, we keep the "I'm boycotting" harping to a minimum. It's a thread devoted to the sport.
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Being that I am an Auburn Tigers (War Eagle) fan and Tennessee just beat us, I imagine my input will be limited.
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Topic Stickied.
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Notre Dame last night again proved (for the umpteenth time) it has no business being ranked in the top 10. People are calling for no more ND in the college football playoffs until the Fighting Irish win a conference title - and stop filling the schedule with Little Sisters of the Poor-calibre teams.
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Q: What is the difference between Notre Dame and Lucky Charms?
A: Lucky Charms belongs in a bowl.
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Amen to that. Notre Dame has to be the most overrated football team in recent memory.
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Amen to that. Notre Dame has to be the most overrated football team in recent memory.
Well, that's what these playoffs are supposed to sort out.
Not that the Playoff helped much this year. We ended up with 1, 2 and a fairly distant 3 and 4... and UCF still couldn't get higher than 8 after they proved the committee dead wrong last year. All the while, we end up with a Clemson/Alabama playoff game for the fourth year in a row.
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Amen to that. Notre Dame has to be the most overrated football team in recent memory.
After the first half of last night's game, I thought the same of OU... (Or that the Tide was an NFL team disguised as college kids). :cool:
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After the first half of last night's game, I thought the same of OU... (Or that the Tide was an NFL team disguised as college kids). :cool:
Alabama just seems like they're in a league of their own this year.
They're probably good enough that they could probably beat last year's Cleveland Browns. (There's a lot of parity this year in the NFL; even the worst teams have won three times against other NFL teams.) I've heard that there's no way a college team could ever beat an NFL team, but I don't think so—a truly dysfunctional NFL team could lose to anyone, including Alabama.
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Alabama just seems like they're in a league of their own this year.
They're probably good enough that they could probably beat last year's Cleveland Browns. (There's a lot of parity this year in the NFL; even the worst teams have won three times against other NFL teams.) I've heard that there's no way a college team could ever beat an NFL team, but I don't think so—a truly dysfunctional NFL team could lose to anyone, including Alabama.
Roll tide
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Notre Dame last night again proved (for the umpteenth time) it has no business being ranked in the top 10. People are calling for no more ND in the college football playoffs until the Fighting Irish win a conference title - and stop filling the schedule with Little Sisters of the Poor-calibre teams.
ND has had some really good teams in the past, especially in the early 1970s, but more often than not, I'm afraid that they have been overrated since then. (Some good teams since the '70s, I'm sure, but lots of disappointments versus the traditional hype.)
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Roll tide
Rammer Jammer!
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Alabama just seems like they're in a league of their own this year.
They're probably good enough that they could probably beat last year's Cleveland Browns. (There's a lot of parity this year in the NFL; even the worst teams have won three times against other NFL teams.) I've heard that there's no way a college team could ever beat an NFL team, but I don't think so—a truly dysfunctional NFL team could lose to anyone, including Alabama.
This is one big reason I don't like the playoffs. Alabama (for example), has recently played two or three more games than other teams (conf champ, semi, final). Therefore, the best recruits want to go to AL. That means AL will probably be successful and play more games, and therefore recruit better, etc, etc, etc.
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This is one big reason I don't like the playoffs. Alabama (for example), has recently played two or three more games than other teams (conf champ, semi, final). Therefore, the best recruits want to go to AL. That means AL will probably be successful and play more games, and therefore recruit better, etc, etc, etc.
You make good points. No where else in American Sports is there such a blatant lack of parity. Of the 130 FBS schools, I bet odds are that probability of championship of about 10 elite schools has a about a 95% chance of success in a season. The other 120? Probably 5% cumulatively,
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You make good points. No where else in American Sports is there such a blatant lack of parity. Of the 130 FBS schools, I bet odds are that probability of championship of about 10 elite schools has a about a 95% chance of success in a season. The other 120? Probably 5% cumulatively,
It's probably even less equitable than that. That 5% is split among 50 schools in the Power Five conferences. The other 70? Zero chance. Ask UCF.
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Zero chance. Ask UCF.
No school got such a raw deal this year as UCF.
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No school got such a raw deal this year as UCF.
Last year, definitely. They should've been number 4 instead of Alabama. The 12 ranking they got was an utter joke given how weak the competition was that year (not a single undefeated team in the Power Five).
This year, I had them at 5. This year in their bowl they lost closely to LSU—a team that had handily beat Georgia, which the CFP committee had at 5, three spots higher than UCF. With that loss, I might put them at 6 and move Ohio State (which I had at 6 before the bowls, then won decisively last night) up to 5.
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NFL playoff highlights:
- The Legend of Nick Foles lives on as the Eagles narrowly beat the Bears on a missed field goal
https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019010601/2018/POST18/Eagles@Bears (https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019010601/2018/POST18/Eagles@Bears) - Cowboys defeat Seahawks, 24-22
https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019010501/2018/POST18/Seahawks@Cowboys?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019010501 (https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019010501/2018/POST18/Seahawks@Cowboys?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019010501) - Chargers hold off Ravens, 23-17, as Lamar Jackson's comeback bid comes up short
https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019010600/2018/POST18/Chargers@Ravens?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019010600 (https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019010600/2018/POST18/Chargers@Ravens?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019010600) - Frank Reich defeats Houston in the wildcard round (again): Colts defeat Texans, 21-7
https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019010500/2018/POST18/Colts@Texans?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019010500 (https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019010500/2018/POST18/Colts@Texans?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019010500)
Up next: Conference Semifinals ("Divisional")
Colts @ Chiefs, Chargers @ Patriots
Eagles @ Saints, Cowboys @ Rams
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The Bear's mascot's reaction after the missed FG is comic gold.
Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6jpJxJuaRU#)
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The Bears-Eagles game was a real nail-biter. That poor kicker seems to have a bad habit of bouncing 'em off the upright, especially at inopportune times.
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Upset! Clemson Tigers are national champions, rout Alabama Crimson Tide 44-16
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Upset! Clemson Tigers are national champions, rout Alabama Crimson Tide 44-16
Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tibLjnn_Nf4#)
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Upset! Clemson Tigers are national champions, rout Alabama Crimson Tide 44-16
That was quite a thrashing. Alabama's QB did not live up to expectations.
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That was quite a thrashing. Alabama's QB did not live up to expectations.
Nor did their coaching.
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Upset! Clemson Tigers are national champions, rout Alabama Crimson Tide 44-16
SEC Shorts - Teams visit a laid up Alabama after Championship Game
Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZivEBcvM8CM#)
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Nor did their coaching.
It was strange that the running game pooped out whenever they got within the 20 yard line!
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It was strange that the running game pooped out whenever they got within the 20 yard line!
Y'know, the worst part of that game was that Saban must have gone for it at least four times on fourth-and-whatever in the red zone. I hate to come off as overly conservative (oh, who am I kidding? This is a conservative forum), but if they'd've converted just two out of four field goals there, that's a three-possession game. If they'd made all four, that's a two-possession game, and they don't have to jump to a passing game that failed them all night.
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@dfwgator
The last QB to beat BAMA that badly was Danny Wuerffel.
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Divisional roundup:
AFC:
Chiefs defeat Colts, 31-13
First-half trouncing proves enough as Chargers comeback attempt falls short, Pats win 41-28, Brady still makes mockery of professional football
NFC:
Rams defeat Cowboys, 30-22
"NO" repeat: Saints knock off Foles and the Eagles, 20-14
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Disgusting pass interference non-call at the end of the NFC championship. What an embarrassment for the NFL.
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Back to the NFL
How is this not pass interference?
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13703258/NoFlag.gif)
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Back to the NFL
How is this not pass interference?
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13703258/NoFlag.gif)
How is it not a personal foul for helmet-to-helmet contact?
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Disgusting pass interference non-call at the end of the NFC championship. What an embarrassment for the NFL.
I have no interest in what happens from here on out, other than the Rams getting creamed in the Super Bowl. But I won't be watching.
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Officiating has stunk all year. Why should the playoffs be any different?
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Officiating has stunk all year. Why should the playoffs be any different?
NFL had to do something to beef up excitement in the LA market, since nobody really cares about the Rams or Chargers there.
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Can't believe this will slip through the Chiefs' hands but it looks like it.... 39 seconds, you never know. Very good game though imho.
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Just turned on the game to root against the Cheatriots. I see Brady throw his third INT, only to have it called back because of an offsides penalty the network refused to re-show. This league is rigged.
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I'm convinced the league wants KC to win. Mahomes is the "it" guy.
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Break for KC along with a great pass.... down to around the 20 yard line of NE... how about that. FG ties, TD wins... (obviously)...
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I hope the Patriots destroy the Rams*.
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I hope they both lose.
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I've got to think the Rams will be favored....both of these games went to OT, so...yes, a team won but it was drawn at regulation, fwiw. Just like in soccer.
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Disgusting pass interference non-call at the end of the NFC championship. What an embarrassment for the NFL.
@catfish1957
I didn't know Don Denkinger was an NFL referee.
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Just turned on the game to root against the Cheatriots. I see Brady throw his third INT, only to have it called back because of an offsides penalty the network refused to re-show. This league is rigged.
They're not even hiding the rigging very well any more. :shrug:
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@catfish1957
I didn't know Don Denkinger was an NFL referee.
More like Mr. Magoo.
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Back to the NFL
How is this not pass interference?
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13703258/NoFlag.gif)
Not just personal foul, that stuff nowadays should see an ejection.
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NFL had to do something to beef up excitement in the LA market, since nobody really cares about the Rams or Chargers there.
The Chargers never belonged in LA to begin with.
I know what will eventually happen: the Chargers will move to the new stadium, still only draw 20,000 fans or so (most of them from the other team), and they'll break the lease and head to another city. Spanos has talked about going outside the U.S. in the past. Maybe he's the one that ends up moving to London.
The Rams have a long history there; I think they'll do OK in the long run. LA may not be a passionate football town, but it's got access to Hollywood and all the money that entails. Part of the reason they lost steam in the 80s and 90s was the Raiders coming in and sucking out all the attention.
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The Chargers never belonged in LA to begin with.
I know what will eventually happen: the Chargers will move to the new stadium, still only draw 20,000 fans or so (most of them from the other team), and they'll break the lease and head to another city. Spanos has talked about going outside the U.S. in the past. Maybe he's the one that ends up moving to London.
The Rams have a long history there; I think they'll do OK in the long run. LA may not be a passionate football town, but it's got access to Hollywood and all the money that entails. Part of the reason they lost steam in the 80s and 90s was the Raiders coming in and sucking out all the attention.
The Raiders are still the most popular team in LA.
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More like Mr. Magoo.
@dfwgator
Please---Magoo, Ray Charles, and Stevie Wonder would have gotten the call right!
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Damn it...neither of my picks are in (Chiefs and Saints)...just because I hate LA less than New England, go Rams...ungh. I so want that arrogant ass Brady to lose again. But seeing as how he's not facing the NFC East in the SB, he'll probably win...sigh. Signed, Eagles Phan! (http://orig10.deviantart.net/1907/f/2011/069/7/6/philadelphia_eagles_by_bluexdevilz-d3bbrwp.jpg)
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The Raiders are still the most popular team in LA.
If the Rams win it all, it will be a tainted championship at best.
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If the Rams win it all, it will be a tainted championship at best.
A Patriots win wouldn't be any better.
You know, when I started this thread, I said "no 'I'm boycotting' posts" but at this point, that's the only good result that can come of this game.
I can live with the Rams, but I'm just plain tired and bored of seeing the Patriots in the Super Bowl year, after year, after year. So, I won't watch.
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The Chargers never belonged in LA to begin with.
I know what will eventually happen: the Chargers will move to the new stadium, still only draw 20,000 fans or so (most of them from the other team), and they'll break the lease and head to another city. Spanos has talked about going outside the U.S. in the past. Maybe he's the one that ends up moving to London.
The Rams have a long history there; I think they'll do OK in the long run. LA may not be a passionate football town, but it's got access to Hollywood and all the money that entails. Part of the reason they lost steam in the 80s and 90s was the Raiders coming in and sucking out all the attention.
For the record, the Chargers started in Los Angeles but that is ancient history, they had a quarterback named Jack Kemp.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/121770152709-0-1/s-l1000.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kemp (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kemp)
Chargers were in LA their first year at least.
Anyway, I hardly watched a full-NFL game this year, maybe none fully. I'm not too absorbed with who won or lost. The league is hyped up and we see how they stabbed many of their fans in the back, let alone, getting taxpayers to subsidize stadiums and so on.
The Rams were making noise all year. I watched most of that Kansas City-Ram game. The Rams don't have 3 or 4 losses for no reason at all. They have been a good team. If one says the refs favored them or something, I'm not arguing that. Maybe so.
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Saints owner issues statement, well he should. This is probably in response to that play with video that was posted in this thread:
https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Saints-owner-issues-statement-as-controversial-loss-halts-Super-Bowl-run-578200?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Saints-owner-issues-statement-as-controversial-loss-halts-Super-Bowl-run-578200?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
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Just turned on the game to root against the Cheatriots. I see Brady throw his third INT, only to have it called back because of an offsides penalty the network refused to re-show. This league is rigged.
There also was that bogus "roughing the passer" call on 3rd down, in the 4th quarter, that helped them out.
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I saw the offsides. It was legit. The defender was practically in the offensive backfield. The roughing the passer penalty was arguable, to say the least.
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(https://whatsnew2day.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/1548091085_368_Rams-amp-39-Gurley-and-the-LAPD-troll-New-Orleans-after-a-bloated-call-the-Saints-costs-an-NFC-crown.jpg)
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NFL opposes Rams-Saints do-over, saying it could cost league more than $100M: court filing
By Paulina Dedaj | Fox News
A rematch of last weekend’s NFC Championship Game due to bad call could cost the league millions, the NFL said Friday.
NFL Chief Financial Officer Joseph Siclare said in a sworn affidavit that replaying the final minutes of last Sunday’s game between the Los Angeles Rams and the New Orleans Saints because of a bad call could cost the NFL “more than $100 million†because it could mean delaying Super Bowl LIII.
Read more at: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-says-rams-saints-rematch-could-cost-millions (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-says-rams-saints-rematch-could-cost-millions)
Once I totally reviewed all the info on this "non-call", I've lost total interest. Calls go both ways, I should not have disgust for the Rams and then, in turn cheer the Patriots....but I don't blame people for however they feel. All they can do is patch up the rule now, which they will in the off season.
Jerry Jones said over the past week, that call that benefited the Patriots per the punt or kickoff (whichever), that evidence to me and apparently to him, does not seem overwhelming enough to reverse that call on whether the receiver touched it or not. I think in all likelihood, it didn't touch him but it still is so close, almost too close to call.
I'm still not watching much of this game. Too disappointed from the past really.
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They could make all that money up and more just by selling the TV rights. Come on.
That said, though... Season ticket holders have no financial standing to sue. As a fan, they gain nothing and are not harmed in the legal sense, regardless of whether the Saints win or lose. The Saints players and coaches, on the other hand, since they lost money in it (the winner's share of the championship game, plus whatever they'll make for Super Bowl LIII), could possibly sue.
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Eric Dickerson: Patriots cheated against the Rams 17 years ago
NBC Sports Boston Report
February 1, 2019
Eric Dickerson is a legend in all respects, a Hall of Famer and one of the best running backs to ever play the game.
He also used to play for the Rams. And like most Rams fans, he's convinced that the Patriots cheated during their last Super Bowl matchup against the Rams.
More (https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/eric-dickerson-patriots-cheated-against-rams-17-years-ago)
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This could be the lowest-rated Super Bowl.
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This could be the lowest-rated Super Bowl.
I have watched every Super Bowl since the first one. This will be the first one I miss.
Saint's revenge.
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This could be the lowest-rated Super Bowl.
Because of the boycotters in the New Orleans region?
They think too much of themselves, IMO.
This Super Bowl offers much history. Does the Grasshopper grab the pebble from Tom Brady's opened palm?
Does a rookie coach win it all?
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Because of the boycotters in the New Orleans region?
They think too much of themselves, IMO.
This Super Bowl offers much history. Does the Grasshopper grab the pebble from Tom Brady's opened palm?
Does a rookie coach win it all?
From that region yes, but I there is very very low enthusiamsim for this game mainly cause again the Patriots are in the Super Bowl.
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Because of the boycotters in the New Orleans region?
They think too much of themselves, IMO.
@DCPatriot
Where did anyone say or infer that? I can't speak for other Saint fans, but I simply choose not to reward the NFL, and their sponsors for extreme sub-par officiating.
Pretty damn presumptious on your part if you ask me.
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@DCPatriot
Where did anyone say or infer that? I can't speak for other Saint fans, but I simply choose not to reward the NFL, and their sponsors for extreme sub-par officiating.
Pretty damn presumptious on your part if you ask me.
No insults intended, @catfish1957
I read in on an ESPN site...that the theory was that television ratings would be down due to the manner in which the Saints were robbed.
Even bars in the French Quarter vowed not to televise the Game.
To that, I figured there were a lot more Patriot-haters across the country that were going to check in to see this new style of high-scoring offenses the RAMS and CHIEFS showed all year.
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No insults intended, @catfish1957
I read in on an ESPN site...that the theory was that television ratings would be down due to the manner in which the Saints were robbed.
Even bars in the French Quarter vowed not to televise the Game.
To that, I figured there were a lot more Patriot-haters across the country that were going to check in to see this new style of high-scoring offenses the RAMS and CHIEFS showed all year.
Cheers, and here's to 2 months till baseball season.
:beer:
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Yes, the Saints were victimized by a bad call. But if the outcome of a game and the team's entire season hinges on one pass play, you probably didn't deserve to win that game. My Stillers got bad calls all season long - but they also didn't play very well, thus, no playoffs.
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Cheers, and here's to 2 months till baseball season.
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@catfish1957
You misspelled “lacrosseâ€
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Yes, the Saints were victimized by a bad call. But if the outcome of a game and the team's entire season hinges on one pass play, you probably didn't deserve to win that game. My Stillers got bad calls all season long - but they also didn't play very well, thus, no playoffs.
Normally I’d agree with that but the timing of that bad call is what made it so catastrophic. Because of that bad call it forced a fourth down with a little time on the clock. Which means the rams had more time and only had to drive a short field to kick a tying FG. Had the call been made it would have been 1st down. if the rams had even gotten the ball back they would have had almost no time to do anything even if the Aints had still only managed a FG.
(BTW, I’m a panthers fan so most DEFINITELY NOT a saints fan!!!)
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Normally I’d agree with that but the timing of that bad call is what made it so catastrophic. Because of that bad call it forced a fourth down with a little time on the clock. Which means the rams had more time and only had to drive a short field to kick a tying FG. Had the call been made it would have been 1st down. if the rams had even gotten the ball back they would have had almost no time to do anything even if the Aints had still only managed a FG.
(BTW, I’m a panthers fan so most DEFINITELY NOT a saints fan!!!)
@Axeslinger
I have argued that point ad nauseam.
Add the point that the culprit ref was looking right at the play a few feet away, and then..... waved another official away who was likely going to discuss an overcall...... Considering the stakes, you really gotta wonder what was going on in the head of that SOB.
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Well in 6 days there is the Alliance of American Football
https://aaf.com/
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Well in 6 days there is the Alliance of American Football
https://aaf.com/
I'm not particularly impressed as a football fan with the kind of players they were able to get. They seem to have surprisingly robust funding and their coaches are fairly good... but when your marquee names are people like Zach Mettenberger and Trent Richardson, it's hard to get all that enthused. Will I watch? Sure, but I don't anticipate being impressed.
I liked the UFL of what's now a decade ago (despite Pelosi's involvement). They had great coaches, good players who had success at the NFL level (Jeff Garcia, Ahman Green, Daunte Culpepper), and paid about the same amount of money. The AAF seems to have dug into the dredges of minor league football.
I'm interested to see what the new XFL has to offer next year. The tweaks I've read about look to make the game pretty interesting, and it certainly doesn't look like Vince McMahon is going to make the same tacky mistakes he made in 2001.
Alas, there's always arena football.
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Super Bowl LIII Live Thread (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,350217.msg1908383.html)
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I'm not particularly impressed as a football fan with the kind of players they were able to get. They seem to have surprisingly robust funding and their coaches are fairly good... but when your marquee names are people like Zach Mettenberger and Trent Richardson, it's hard to get all that enthused. Will I watch? Sure, but I don't anticipate being impressed.
I liked the UFL of what's now a decade ago (despite Pelosi's involvement). They had great coaches, good players who had success at the NFL level (Jeff Garcia, Ahman Green, Daunte Culpepper), and paid about the same amount of money. The AAF seems to have dug into the dredges of minor league football.
I'm interested to see what the new XFL has to offer next year. The tweaks I've read about look to make the game pretty interesting, and it certainly doesn't look like Vince McMahon is going to make the same tacky mistakes he made in 2001.
Alas, there's always arena football.
I do have low standards for this league, but I think this going to the NFL Farm system.
I did watch the UFL and it had potential, but they should have never gone against the NFL.
Same here, I'm more excited about the new XFL.
Arena football is fading away. I think the league is down to six teams I believe.
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Arena football is fading away. I think the league is down to six teams I believe.
Five, actually, and only three owners among them. But they're not the only league anymore—there's the NAL on the East Coast, then CIF and the IFL in the midwest. (There's also the AAL, but that's really just semi-pro.)
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Five, actually, and only three owners among them. But they're not the only league anymore—there's the NAL on the East Coast, then CIF and the IFL in the midwest. (There's also the AAL, but that's really just semi-pro.)
That is correct, the Arena Football has kinda splinetered.
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Only 30 days until LFL
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I've decided to change the title and keep this thread going through the winter with the alternative leagues if anybody wants to say anything about them.
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The top ten film titles that could have applied to Snoozer Bowl LIII . . .
10) The Big Sleep
9) Vertigo
8) While You Were Sleeping
7) Sleeping Beauty
6) Coma
5) Sleeper
4) Flatliners
3) Sleeping with the Enemy
2) The Plague of the Zombies
. . . and, the number one film title that could have applied to Snore Bowl LIII . . .
1) The Dead Zone
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So far I'm liking the AAF.
1. Much faster pace (no tv timeouts)
2. Actually playing football
The only thing I question is that there is no kickoffs.
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So far I'm liking the AAF.
1. Much faster pace (no tv timeouts)
2. Actually playing football
The only thing I question is that there is no kickoffs.
I suspect the kickoff as we knew it is a thing of the past.
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I suspect the kickoff as we knew it is a thing of the past.
I thnk you are right.
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I liked the production. I ended up watching the online feed, which had almost no commercials, and it felt a little awkward at times. The TV side of things was good, and the fans came out to support the team, especially in San Antonio.
The on-field product? Well, it was a first ever game, so yeah, it was kind of sloppy. I feel bad for Atlanta—I didn't watch much of that one, but from what I read, their head coach and offensive coordinator quit shortly before the season started, and Steve Spurrier made them pay. (Which is funny since there were a few articles from the past few days suggesting that Spurrier was over the hill and wasn't in touch with the modern game... then he runs the Philly Special. About that...)
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Well, it looks like the AAF is doing something right: it got more viewers than the NBA did.
https://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-saturday-february-10-2019/
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Kaepernick update:
His asking price right now? $20,000,000. And he had the audacity to demand that from a league that pays $70,000 a year.
Gee, I wonder why he hasn't been signed yet!
https://www.apnews.com/699ba621f5fb414d8708513ea294e49e (https://www.apnews.com/699ba621f5fb414d8708513ea294e49e)
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Anyone else not believe Kyler Murray is 5'10-1/8"? An ESPN reporterette who is under 5'7" said she interviewed him and they were eye to eye.
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Anyone else not believe Kyler Murray is 5'10-1/8"? An ESPN reporterette who is under 5'7" said she interviewed him and they were eye to eye.
She could've been in heels.
5'10 is about as short as a guy can get and still be an effective NFL quarterback—Doug Flutie was the last guy I remember being that short and being successful, and even he took a long time to break through as a star.
If Murray were any shorter than 5'10 I am pretty sure he would be playing baseball because no NFL team would touch a QB that short. I guess we'll find out come Draft Day if he suddenly drops well lower than expected.
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New season, new thread. (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,374037.msg2045608.html#msg2045608)