The Briefing Room

General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Skeptic on December 28, 2018, 09:27:57 am

Title: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: Skeptic on December 28, 2018, 09:27:57 am
My personal experience with the C.I.A. as a civilian is very shitty, to say the least. What I read about them gives the impression of a very bad reputation in regards to how they operate against civilians. They appear to operate under illegal terms and do things like arm and train America's enemies. They kill innocent civilians to control information and operate very much like a mob on steroids. They love mind games and manipulating people and sabotaging lives... all in the name of attacking progress for individuals that don't waive their rights and commit themselves to a subservient lifestyle at the C.I.A.'s control. I would like to think they are there for powerless and largely innocent civilians but the truth is that they aren't. I would like to discuss this matter. Anyone know of any particular cases where the C.I.A. really screwed up a civilians life all in the name of word games and wet farts?
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: Skeptic on December 28, 2018, 10:36:53 am
Here's an article I found on Google to help kick this thread into gear.

https://www.gawker.com/5755942/at-the-cia-accidentally-kidnapping-and-torturing-an-innocent-guy-earns-you-a-promotion (https://www.gawker.com/5755942/at-the-cia-accidentally-kidnapping-and-torturing-an-innocent-guy-earns-you-a-promotion)

At the C.I.A. accidentally kidnapping and torturing an innocent guy earns you a promotion

This can't be good. Makes you wonder, was it really an accident? I don't think so. They let terrorists go and do shit like this.
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: TomSea on December 28, 2018, 12:11:12 pm
A big maybe, maybe George HW Bush did as below and saved the CIA cerca 1975/76.
Quote
EXTRAORDINARILY GRACIOUS'
How George H.W. Bush Rescued the CIA and Earned Its Respect
The agency's reputation was at a low point when Bush was brought in to help repair it—an assignment he thought was President Ford's way of burying his political career.
Eli Lake

12.01.18 12:23 AM ET

When George H.W. Bush took the helm of the CIA in January 1976, the place was in a shambles. A little more than a year earlier, in December 1974, the New York Times disclosed how the CIA violated its charter and spied on U.S. anti-war groups. Seymour Hersh’s piece was based on part of a secret CIA history, known as the “family jewels,” that detailed everything from domestic wiretapping to assassination plots against foreign leaders such as Fidel Castro. By the time Bush became director, two congressional committees were investigating the CIA’s darkest secrets.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-late-george-hw-bush-earned-the-cias-respect-when-he-ran-the-agency (https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-late-george-hw-bush-earned-the-cias-respect-when-he-ran-the-agency)

 
Quote
Bush as Director of Central Intelligence
https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2016-featured-story-archive/bush-as-director-of-central-intelligence.html (https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2016-featured-story-archive/bush-as-director-of-central-intelligence.html)

Last link, CIA's documentation.

Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: TomSea on December 28, 2018, 12:15:34 pm
https://www.gawker.com/5755942/at-the-cia-accidentally-kidnapping-and-torturing-an-innocent-guy-earns-you-a-promotion (https://www.gawker.com/5755942/at-the-cia-accidentally-kidnapping-and-torturing-an-innocent-guy-earns-you-a-promotion)

That story doesn't have much detail. I'd look for other detail.
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: Skeptic on December 29, 2018, 06:38:54 am
Bush was smart. He didn't make anything better he wisened the C.I.A. up and improved the quality of cover ups. He was guilty like the rest of them.
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: Skeptic on December 30, 2018, 06:22:28 pm
They're weak bleep with their hands in everyones pockets, simply put. They're like border hoppers with power over you. They're the sort of people you wouldn't invite into your house.
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: Skeptic on December 30, 2018, 07:13:25 pm
They're like sodomite scrabble players with guns, gotta protect the alphabet and silence the real Americans.  Born in a ghetto trash can, they bring their cheapness to the agency, ready to use that top notch resource the tax payer provided to ream the same people who paid for it. Cheap ghetto bitch.
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: TomSea on December 30, 2018, 07:22:53 pm
Someone really should come in and join in this issue. It is one for much discussion.
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: Axeslinger on December 30, 2018, 07:29:19 pm
Someone really should come in and join in this issue. It is one for much discussion.

Meh....got a guy with a chapped ass bitching about an agency that no doubt does some shady crap, that should be cleaned up, but also on the whole provides this country with an absolutely invaluable and irreplaceable service.  So...not a lot to discuss.
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: Skeptic on December 30, 2018, 07:35:33 pm
Meh....got a guy with a chapped ass bitching about an agency that no doubt does some shady crap, that should be cleaned up, but also on the whole provides this country with an absolutely invaluable and irreplaceable service.  So...not a lot to discuss.

The C.I.A. works for Mexico and their mission is to strengthen and expand the Spanish Empire.
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: Axeslinger on December 30, 2018, 07:42:56 pm
The C.I.A. works for Mexico and their mission is to strengthen and expand the Spanish Empire.



(https://media.giphy.com/media/a3zqvrH40Cdhu/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: Free Vulcan on December 30, 2018, 07:55:58 pm
I think the CIA is structured the same as all the known nat'l security related agencies and departments of the govt - there is the legit side that is relatively patriotic, and there is a deep, dark, and nefarious side that is 100% imperialist globalism that few people, and maybe not even the President, know about.
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: ABX on December 30, 2018, 07:58:00 pm
The internet is probably the best play.  They are getting people to spill their deepest, darkest beliefs, testing to see how far they can push on emotions and how, even the most innocent person can turn evil with the right prodding, how masses of people can be controlled and manipulated and how they will give up what they want to be secret. The best part is all this data is being collected while people falsely believe they are being anonymous. At that, the more they try to be anonymous, the more red flags go up.
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: Skeptic on December 30, 2018, 08:02:39 pm


(https://media.giphy.com/media/a3zqvrH40Cdhu/giphy.gif)

Thanks for the skirt and box full of phones. Scratch that, I will take a now-cheque.
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: Axeslinger on December 30, 2018, 08:21:00 pm
Thanks for the skirt and box full of phones. Scratch that, I will take a now-cheque.

Um...WTH?  I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that maybe you missed some meds this morning?
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: Skeptic on December 30, 2018, 08:30:58 pm
Um...WTH?  I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that maybe you missed some meds this morning?

No, I'm mocking them becaure they're reading this. Inside joke. They got their heads so far up my ass they're lookin' out my eyeballs.
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: truth_seeker on December 30, 2018, 08:33:18 pm
Post WWII the CIA needed to get very effective, to combat the KGB who were also very good.

Therefore many excesses were tolerated, and became entrenched in America's "intelligence" institutions.

How many of YOU approved of "Anything" necessary to get the perps of Pearl Harbor or of Sept.11, 2001?


Now we have reverted to wussified weakling, that believe "waterboarding" is too severe, because it really, really scares the perp.


Our enemies have studied us, and determined we are too weak to prevail.

Having said the above, I do  NOT condone the intelligence agencies involving themselves in our partisan politics.
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: Skeptic on December 30, 2018, 08:34:05 pm
I will take the unleaching severance pay and a permanent restraining order. Thanks.
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: corbe on December 30, 2018, 09:11:15 pm
   Your cajones are obviously bigger than mine to post this ONLINE!
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: Skeptic on December 31, 2018, 11:28:44 pm
   Your cajones are obviously bigger than mine to post this ONLINE!

I dont got spanish genes, absolutely no "cajones" in my bloodline. Where else would I post this?
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: berdie on January 01, 2019, 01:31:47 am
I dont got spanish genes, absolutely no "cajones" in my bloodline. Where else would I post this?



Hmmm...myself I would say nowhere.  But that's just me.
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 01, 2019, 01:43:58 am
Mk-Ultra mind control.   Dr. Ford is one.  Cathy O'Brien.  C.I.A...run. 

http://youtu.be/0ooSoxxOvIQ (http://youtu.be/0ooSoxxOvIQ)

Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ooSoxxOvIQ#)




Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGyp09CIRqg#)




http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=bill+clinton+mkultra&&view=detail&mid=C73BFB551F39236DD932C73BFB551F39236DD932&rvsmid=074A878CAB14C1E36676074A878CAB14C1E36676&FORM=VDQVAP (http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=bill+clinton+mkultra&&view=detail&mid=C73BFB551F39236DD932C73BFB551F39236DD932&rvsmid=074A878CAB14C1E36676074A878CAB14C1E36676&FORM=VDQVAP)
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: Skeptic on January 01, 2019, 04:55:06 am
You can take the bitch out of the ghetto but you can't take the ghetto out of the bitch.
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: GrouchoTex on January 01, 2019, 05:34:23 am
MK Ultra comes to mind.
Title: Re: Discussion - the worst mistakes the C.I.A. ever made in regards to innocent U.S. civilians
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 01, 2019, 10:21:01 am
The internet is probably the best play.  They are getting people to spill their deepest, darkest beliefs, testing to see how far they can push on emotions and how, even the most innocent person can turn evil with the right prodding, how masses of people can be controlled and manipulated and how they will give up what they want to be secret. The best part is all this data is being collected while people falsely believe they are being anonymous. At that, the more they try to be anonymous, the more red flags go up.
Yabbut, they've been studying manipulating the masses since there were masses...
and they have just kept up with the times.

Mere social media posts without attribution or a moment to consider if they are false can cause people to erupt in indignation, and yes, violence ("Hands up, don't shoot", for example). They have cost at least one candidate a Federal election. Once sloganized and backed by a media as factually impaired as much of the internet and as corrupt as DC itself, anything goes, including and not limited to murder and mayhem.

Then, just round up the usual suspects... or push for a law...(bump stocks) to take care of a problem that wasn't.

The scary part is that 'they' are getting very good at it.