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Pope Francis Leading His Flock to the Slaughter?
by Raymond Ibrahim
February 10, 2019 at 5:00 am
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13706/pope-francis-ahmed-al-tayeb-document (https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13706/pope-francis-ahmed-al-tayeb-document)
The "Document on Human Fraternity for World Peace and Living Together" is being portrayed as a "historic pledge of fraternity" and applauded as a "historical breakthrough." The problem is that one of the two men who signed it, Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb, has repeatedly contradicted — when speaking in Arabic and appearing on Arabic media — all the lofty sentiments highlighted in it.
Al-Tayeb's predecessor, Egypt's former grand imam, Sheikh Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi (d. 2010), had, "without even being asked, removed all the old books and placed just one introductory book, [but] when al-Tayeb came, he got rid of that book and brought back all the old books, which are full of slaughter and bloodshed." — Dr. Islam al-Behery, a popular Egyptian theologian.
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Pope Francis Leading His Flock to the Slaughter?
by Raymond Ibrahim
February 10, 2019 at 5:00 am
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13706/pope-francis-ahmed-al-tayeb-document (https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13706/pope-francis-ahmed-al-tayeb-document)
The "Document on Human Fraternity for World Peace and Living Together" is being portrayed as a "historic pledge of fraternity" and applauded as a "historical breakthrough." The problem is that one of the two men who signed it, Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb, has repeatedly contradicted — when speaking in Arabic and appearing on Arabic media — all the lofty sentiments highlighted in it.
Al-Tayeb's predecessor, Egypt's former grand imam, Sheikh Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi (d. 2010), had, "without even being asked, removed all the old books and placed just one introductory book, [but] when al-Tayeb came, he got rid of that book and brought back all the old books, which are full of slaughter and bloodshed." — Dr. Islam al-Behery, a popular Egyptian theologian.
Well considering that pope socialista's chosen flock is homosexuals and muslims..............
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Frankie Boy was raised in Buenos Aires/Argentina, during the era of Juan Peron; hence his socialism.
Given his brain dead quotes; not sure he's even a Roman Catholic.
Hopefully the Church Hierarchy will grasp the mortal danger of this jackass and force him
out by whatever means necessary; as they did to similar buffoons during the Renaissance.
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No one denies there have been some bad popes in history, this anti-Catholic idiot apparently does not know anything about history. Again, they are hypocrites never mentioning that some of our allies in the war on terror are people we are selling arms to and apparently in Yemen, again, al Qaeda got some of those weapons.
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"Let no one deceive you in any way"....
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Honestly, should we start posting counter-articles that show Pope Francis in a good light? These articles come out every few days and looking around, I do see a number of the assertions that these articles made can be countered. The same can be made on other issues. It doesn't seem fair to vent articles from Front Page Mag or even Gatestone. It's like they are filler.
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Honestly, should we start posting counter-articles that show Pope Francis in a good light? These articles come out every few days and looking around, I do see a number of the assertions that these articles made can be countered. The same can be made on other issues. It doesn't seem fair to vent articles from Front Page Mag or even Gatestone. It's like they are filler.
That's a good question. Are there stories that show the Pope in a good light? I honestly haven't seen any, so I don't know.
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I have considered myself Sede Vacante for the better part of two years now.
Psalm 109:8 May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership.
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That's a good question. Are there stories that show the Pope in a good light? I honestly haven't seen any, so I don't know.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/pope-francis-urges-politicians-of-all-faiths-to-oppose-abortion-901900.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/pope-francis-urges-politicians-of-all-faiths-to-oppose-abortion-901900.html)
Pope Francis has urged politicians of all faiths to safeguard the rights of the unborn and has exhorted abortion opponents to also assure that children are born into a world where they can live with dignity.
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It was a sad day when the White smoke emerged from the chimney atop the Sistine Chapel at the Vatican, signaling that the cardinals have elected Jorge Mario Bergoglio—a 76-year-old Argentine and archbishop of Buenos Aires. We need a do-over on this turkey.
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It was a sad day when the White smoke emerged from the chimney atop the Sistine Chapel at the Vatican, signaling that the cardinals have elected Jorge Mario Bergoglio—a 76-year-old Argentine and archbishop of Buenos Aires. We need a do-over on this turkey.
Catholicism won't survive without people like Pope Francis. The world is changing. Major religions will either change with it or become irrelevant as the masses turn their backs on them.
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https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/pope-francis-urges-politicians-of-all-faiths-to-oppose-abortion-901900.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/pope-francis-urges-politicians-of-all-faiths-to-oppose-abortion-901900.html)
OK, that's one. Thanks, Dexter.
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Catholicism won't survive without people like Pope Francis. The world is changing. Major religions will either change with it or become irrelevant as the masses turn their backs on them.
Uh-huh. Of course that does not apply to Islam, the fastest growing religion on Earth primarily because they have multiple wives, servants, slaves, and concubines, who are not allowed to refuse sex, and do not use any type of birth-control.
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Catholicism won't survive without people like Pope Francis. The world is changing. Major religions will either change with it or become irrelevant as the masses turn their backs on them.
Right. That boy’s smaller than the skinny end of nothing sharpened
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Uh-huh. Of course that does not apply to Islam, the fastest growing religion on Earth primarily because they have multiple wives, servants, slaves, and concubines, who are not allowed to refuse sex, and do not use any type of birth-control.
Islam will face the same thing a little further down the road. The Middle East is not caught up with the rest of the modern world, but sooner or later it will be, and by that point Islam will have changed.
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Catholicism won't survive without people like Pope Francis. The world is changing. Major religions will either change with it or become irrelevant as the masses turn their backs on them.
And then annihilation will ensue, and some few surviors will find again, the Book in the rubble.
You speak as though this has not happened already, time and time again. Your utopia will be chains and whips...
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Catholicism won't survive without people like Pope Francis. The world is changing. Major religions will either change with it or become irrelevant as the masses turn their backs on them.
Pulling for the socialist.... nice.
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Islam will face the same thing a little further down the road. The Middle East is not caught up with the rest of the modern world, but sooner or later it will be, and by that point Islam will have changed.
@Dexter, some things transcend current social mores. Well....maybe a lot of things.
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Catholicism won't survive without people like Pope Francis. The world is changing. Major religions will either change with it or become irrelevant as the masses turn their backs on them.
I must disagree..I'm sorry.
The world may change...but religion does not. They won't become irrelevlant. Religion, to me isn't church like the brick and mortar...it has what happens in my heart.
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I must disagree..I'm sorry.
The world may change...but religion does not. They won't become irrelevlant. Religion, to me isn't church like the brick and mortar...it has what happens in my heart.
Indeed - what will make them irrelevant is bowing to social norms.
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All right. Listen up.
Hear you go.
Francis is NOT the last Pope, that was Benedict!
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Catholicism won't survive without people like Pope Francis. The world is changing. Major religions will either change with it or become irrelevant as the masses turn their backs on them.
AHEM! Catholicism will survive DESPITE people like pope socialista and his homosexual brethren, no matter the damage they do in the short term. Francis is just the latest in a long period of hippies trying to popularize religion with the distinct plan to destroy of destroying it. We no longer have traditional masses, we have kumbaya and mass for the illiterate who can't even figure out how to dress for church, we have to have to have equalize representation of women at the alter. And maybe you haven't been paying attention but the number of Christians in countries other than those considered WHITE has been growing quite well, including Catholics.
Isn't there a global warming thingy for you to worry about?
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Catholicism won't survive without people like Pope Francis. The world is changing. Major religions will either change with it or become irrelevant as the masses turn their backs on them.
Stuff and nonsense. The Holy Orthodox Church still does things the way they've been done since the 9th century (I picked that because it was then that our last major liturgical rite -- the marriage ceremony -- was composed, before that Christian marriage was a Roman civil marriage undertaken with the blessing of the local bishop followed by the couple receiving the Holy Mysteries at a Divine Liturgy) and we're growing quite nicely, with the re-Christianizaiton of traditionally Orthodox countries after the fall of Communism, steady streams of converts from various Western confessions and lots of successful missionary activity in Africa.
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Catholicism won't survive without people like Pope Francis. The world is changing. Major religions will either change with it or become irrelevant as the masses turn their backs on them.
Catholicism better hold its ground and clean the vipers out of the nest.
The religions which have become irrelevant are those which have capitulated in the face of pressure to lower their standards, quit teaching the Bible, and acquiesced to 'social pressure'. Sure all that makes for a 'feelgood' environment, but that is no substitute for doing the right thing. When churches permit that which scripture forbids, they are no longer doing His work.
If you think Islam will change, please consider:
Changing so much as a punctuation mark in the Quran is punishable by death. How's that for 1400 years of consistency?
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Catholicism better hold its ground and clean the vipers out of the nest.
The religions which have become irrelevant are those which have capitulated in the face of pressure to lower their standards, quit teaching the Bible, and acquiesced to 'social pressure'. Sure all that makes for a 'feelgood' environment, but that is no substitute for doing the right thing. When churches permit that which scripture forbids, they are no longer doing His work.
If you think Islam will change, please consider:
Changing so much as a punctuation mark in the Quran is punishable by death. How's that for 1400 years of consistency?
You mean I've been searching for the King Ahkmed version in vain?
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You mean I've been searching for the King Ahkmed version in vain?
Yes. You're so vain.
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You mean I've been searching for the King Ahkmed version in vain?
333cleo Yep!
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Yes. You're so vain.
She did have one eye in the mirror...
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Francis didn’t stop me from converting to Catholicism five years ago.
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Francis didn’t stop me from converting to Catholicism five years ago.
The guy needs to see the light.
Lighten up, Francis!
Someone needs to convert him to Catholicism.
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The guy needs to see the light.
Lighten up, Francis!
Someone needs to convert him to Catholicism.
Truth!
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Truth!
Can I get an Amen.
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Indeed - what will make them irrelevant is bowing to social norms.
:thumbsup:
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You said, "No one denies there have been some bad popes in history, this anti-Catholic idiot apparently does not know anything about history."
@TomSea
@roamer_1
@goodwithagun
@bigheadfred
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I am Catholic but I don't join fighting about the Catholic Church or other Christian denominations. Every church has officers/leaders made up of humans. Humans screw up because they are humans. The Pope screwing up doesn't affect my belief in God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. If a Baptist/Methodist/Presbyterian/etc. preacher screws up that doesn't affect their members believing in God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.
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I am Catholic but I don't join fighting about the Catholic Church or other Christian denominations. Every church has officers/leaders made up of humans. Humans screw up because they are humans. The Pope screwing up doesn't affect my belief in God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. If a Baptist/Methodist/Presbyterian/etc. preacher screws up that doesn't affect their members believing in God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.
That's right, @Victoria33, but you are mature in your faith. Most are not and can be mislead by the man who is presented to them as God's representative on earth.
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Can I get an Amen.
This place needs a little “Mississippi Squirrel Revivalâ€!
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That's right, @Victoria33, but you are mature in your faith. Most are not and can be mislead by the man who is presented to them as God's representative on earth.
@Sanguine
@TomSea
@roamer_1
@goodwithagun
@bigheadfred
@Cyber Liberty
@Freya
Sanguine, thanks for your post. To make the New Testament easier for Bible readers, if you look in our lounge, in my writing corner separated from the usual gang by a divider, you will see I have started a new book, title is,
"THE NEW TESTAMENT - FOR THINKERS". I am actually working on this book.
I have had a hard time with Cyber Liberty, as he has been moving into a castle and I have been locked in the lounge during this time. When he gets around to unlocking the lounge, he will find most of the alcohol bottles empty and no pastries left.
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@Sanguine
@TomSea
@roamer_1
@goodwithagun
@bigheadfred
@Cyber Liberty
Sanguine, thanks for your post. To make the New Testament easier for Bible readers, if you look in our lounge, in my writing corner separated from the usual gang by a divider, you will see I have started a new book, title is,
"THE NEW TESTAMENT - FOR THINKERS". I am actually working on this book.
I have had a hard time with Cyber Liberty, as he has been moving into a castle and I have been locked in the lounge during this time. When he gets around to unlocking the lounge, he will find most of the alcohol bottles empty and no pastries left.
Sounds fascinating, @Victoria33. I'm assuming God gave us brains for us to use.
Have you done much reading on Emanuel Swedenborg? Very interesting.
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@Sanguine
@TomSea
@roamer_1
@goodwithagun
@bigheadfred
@Cyber Liberty
Sanguine, thanks for your post. To make the New Testament easier for Bible readers, if you look in our lounge, in my writing corner separated from the usual gang by a divider, you will see I have started a new book, title is,
"THE NEW TESTAMENT - FOR THINKERS". I am actually working on this book.
I have had a hard time with Cyber Liberty, as he has been moving into a castle and I have been locked in the lounge during this time. When he gets around to unlocking the lounge, he will find most of the alcohol bottles empty and no pastries left.
That's why there is an emergency backup bar in the Castle. 333cleo
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Taliban exploits Afghan riots over Koran burning
Officials say insurgents have used the riots as cover for attacks against Western and government targets and have reaped propaganda benefits by allying themselves with popular fury over the incident led by Florida pastor Terry Jones.
April 04, 2011|By Laura King, Los Angeles Times
Reporting from Kabul, Afghanistan — One clear beneficiary has emerged from the wave of deadly riots that swept Afghanistan after members of a Florida evangelical church burned a copy of the Koran: the Taliban.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/04/world/la-fg-afghan-koran-riots-20110404 (http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/04/world/la-fg-afghan-koran-riots-20110404)
They may behave like petulant children and you can say, that is not a reason to cower in what you say but people have been killed because of what someone in the West is saying. There is also a case that can be made that Pope Benedict once said something and someone was killed in Africa out of revenge. I don't know if this article covers it, but here is an article on Pope Benedict and Islam. Once could go after him too. I don't think acts like this by the Pope will have much influence, the headline is over the top, the article isn't as bad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI_and_Islam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI_and_Islam)
Someone in one of those riots in Afghanistan was even beheaded, I forget if it was an American.
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@Sanguine
@TomSea
@roamer_1
@goodwithagun
@bigheadfred
@Cyber Liberty
@Freya
Sanguine, thanks for your post. To make the New Testament easier for Bible readers, if you look in our lounge, in my writing corner separated from the usual gang by a divider, you will see I have started a new book, title is,
"THE NEW TESTAMENT - FOR THINKERS". I am actually working on this book.
I have had a hard time with Cyber Liberty, as he has been moving into a castle and I have been locked in the lounge during this time. When he gets around to unlocking the lounge, he will find most of the alcohol bottles empty and no pastries left.
I want to read your book. It sounds like a must
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Sounds fascinating, @Victoria33. I'm assuming God gave us brains for us to use. Have you done much reading on Emanuel Swedenborg? Very interesting.
@Sanguine
Thanks for the name of this Swedish writer. I will get his book, "Heaven and Hell".
From Wikipedia:
"Emanuel Swedberg; 29 January 1688[2] – 29 March 1772)[3] was a Swedish Lutheran theologian, scientist, philosopher and mystic.[4] He is best known for his book on the afterlife, Heaven and Hell (1758).[5][6]
Swedenborg had a prolific career as an inventor and scientist. In 1741, at 53, he entered into a spiritual phase in which he began to experience dreams and visions, beginning on Easter Weekend, on 6 April 1744. It culminated in a 'spiritual awakening' in which he received a revelation that he was appointed by the Lord Jesus Christ to write The Heavenly Doctrine to reform Christianity.[7] According to The Heavenly Doctrine, the Lord had opened Swedenborg's spiritual eyes so that from then on, he could freely visit heaven and hell to converse with angels, demons and other spirits and the Last Judgment had already occurred the year before, in 1757.[8]"
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I am Catholic but I don't join fighting about the Catholic Church or other Christian denominations. Every church has officers/leaders made up of humans. Humans screw up because they are humans. The Pope screwing up doesn't affect my belief in God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. If a Baptist/Methodist/Presbyterian/etc. preacher screws up that doesn't affect their members believing in God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.
I am a revert to Catholicism, even dabbled on the fringes of Scientology for a while. I don't care what you believe, as long as you are not sacrificing small children or small fur bearing animals it's all good. If you tell the truth about the Catholic Church I am good as well, but when the bigots start lieing, all bets are off.
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Sounds fascinating, @Victoria33. I'm assuming God gave us brains for us to use.
Have you done much reading on Emanuel Swedenborg? Very interesting.
I was in Basic Training with a guy that was into his stuff. I remember that he went into a bookstore and asked for a book by him. The clerk told him "We don't carry books by cultists." I remember thinking wow that sounds like censorship to me.
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@Sanguine
Thanks for the name of this Swedish writer. I will get his book, "Heaven and Hell".
From Wikipedia:
"Emanuel Swedberg; 29 January 1688[2] – 29 March 1772)[3] was a Swedish Lutheran theologian, scientist, philosopher and mystic.[4] He is best known for his book on the afterlife, Heaven and Hell (1758).[5][6]
Swedenborg had a prolific career as an inventor and scientist. In 1741, at 53, he entered into a spiritual phase in which he began to experience dreams and visions, beginning on Easter Weekend, on 6 April 1744. It culminated in a 'spiritual awakening' in which he received a revelation that he was appointed by the Lord Jesus Christ to write The Heavenly Doctrine to reform Christianity.[7] According to The Heavenly Doctrine, the Lord had opened Swedenborg's spiritual eyes so that from then on, he could freely visit heaven and hell to converse with angels, demons and other spirits and the Last Judgment had already occurred the year before, in 1757.[8]"
@Victoria33, look on Gutenberg first. It may be there for free.
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@Victoria33, look on Gutenberg first. It may be there for free.
@Sanguine
Yes, I was going to do that. There are many books written in ages gone by now on the web. The web makes my research so easy. In my earlier time, I was a constant person at physical libraries.
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Catholicism won't survive without people like Pope Francis. The world is changing. Major religions will either change with it or become irrelevant as the masses turn their backs on them.
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So ''he world is changing", is it?
If so, does Roman Catholicism represent eternal or temporal values???
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So ''he world is changing", is it?
If so, does Roman Catholicism represent eternal or temporal values???
It is what it is. Don't try to over think it.