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Title: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 09, 2020, 11:36:18 pm
Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
By Tyler O'Neil Jun 09, 2020 4:06 PM EST

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Just as the Islamic State (ISIS) claimed territory in Iraq and Syria, antifa militants have claimed territory in Seattle, Wash. According to reports on the ground from The Post Millennial’s Andy Ngo and Townhall’s Julio Rosas, protesters and antifa instigators have seized land in the Capitol Hill area around the Seattle Police East Precinct. Like ISIS, the rioters appear to have decided on setting up a government in their occupied territory, naming it “Free Capitol Hill.”

“Seattle [Mayor Jenny Durkan] is allowing a dangerous situation to fester. [Antifa] militants have taken over & created an ‘autonomous zone’ in city w/their own rules. Police precinct abandoned. Antifa set up barricades to create a border. Calling for volunteers to provide armed guard,” Ngo tweeted.

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Andy Ngô
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@MrAndyNgo

Seattle @MayorJenny is allowing a dangerous situation to fester. #Antifa militants have taken over & created an “autonomous zone” in city w/their own rules. Police precinct abandoned. Antifa set up barricades to create a border. Calling for volunteers to provide armed guard.

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https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2020/06/09/antifa-militants-seize-seattle-police-hq-set-up-autonomous-zone-n512621
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: EdinVA on June 10, 2020, 12:20:19 am
 :thud:
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 10, 2020, 12:36:48 am
Didn't this happen on "South Park," when all of the adults were gone and the children ran the town?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: goatprairie on June 10, 2020, 01:14:30 am

With apologies to The Irish Rovers and "Goodbye Mrs. Durkin"  this one is sung by Antifa

"Well it's goodbye Mayor Durkan
I'm sick and tired of working
No more we'll take your orders
No longer we'll be poor
As sure as my name is Justin
I'll shove the police into a dustbin
Instead of taking orders we'll be stealing all your gold."
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: aligncare on June 10, 2020, 02:16:34 am
Free is a funny word; it can mean so many things...

That’s okay. The left doesn’t know the meaning of words anyway.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: rangerrebew on June 10, 2020, 11:59:28 am
Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
By Tyler O'Neil Jun 09, 2020 4:06 PM EST
 

Just as the Islamic State (ISIS) claimed territory in Iraq and Syria, antifa militants have claimed territory in Seattle, Wash. According to reports on the ground from The Post Millennial’s Andy Ngo and Townhall’s Julio Rosas, protesters and antifa instigators have seized land in the Capitol Hill area around the Seattle Police East Precinct. Like ISIS, the rioters appear to have decided on setting up a government in their occupied territory, naming it “Free Capitol Hill.”

“Seattle [Mayor Jenny Durkan] is allowing a dangerous situation to fester. [Antifa] militants have taken over & created an ‘autonomous zone’ in city w/their own rules. Police precinct abandoned. Antifa set up barricades to create a border. Calling for volunteers to provide armed guard,” Ngo tweeted.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2020/06/09/antifa-militants-seize-seattle-police-hq-set-up-autonomous-zone-n512621
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Slide Rule on June 10, 2020, 12:22:30 pm
Guess this is a great opportunity to Nuke those bas!ards and Antifa also.



Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Mod1 on June 10, 2020, 12:32:42 pm
Merged two threads, same article.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: XenaLee on June 10, 2020, 12:47:32 pm
This, among other idiocy happening around the nation, would make a great campaign ad for Trump.   Goes something like .....This is what happens when you vote for Democrats.  Don't let this happen to you.  Vote Trump 2020!
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 10, 2020, 04:04:25 pm
Didn't this happen on "South Park," when all of the adults were gone and the children ran the town?

@mountaineer

Where else do you think all their "big ideas" come from?

I have no probablem at all visualizing a "Cartman for President" campaign.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 10, 2020, 04:06:15 pm
Free is a funny word; it can mean so many things...

That’s okay. The left doesn’t know the meaning of words anyway.

@aligncare

If you are a leftie,words are fluid things,and can mean anything.

Especially words like "economics" and "freedom".
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 10, 2020, 04:08:04 pm
This, among other idiocy happening around the nation, would make a great campaign ad for Trump.   Goes something like .....This is what happens when you vote for Democrats.  Don't let this happen to you.  Vote Trump 2020!

@XenaLee

I,for one,will not be the tiniest bit surprised to see it happen,with each campaign ad showing Trump pointing at the Dim candidate and laughing.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: goatprairie on June 10, 2020, 07:44:40 pm
I never thought I'd see the day when we'd have situations like this with thug leftist groups allowed control over parts of cities.
The mayor of Portland, Ore., Ted Wheeler, allows Antifa to run the traffic at times.
We now have a whole bunch of far left wackos operating many major America cities.
To allow some radical org. to take control of major parts of cities is nothing but criminal.
If Trump sends in the National Guard to haul these leftist nuts out of their offices, I'm alright with that.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 10, 2020, 08:24:28 pm
It grows ever evident that the people elected to run these jurisdictions cannot. They are ceding real estate and power to an unelected authority, in effect, allowing the powers of government duly ceded by the people to elected officials, to be carried out within the constraints of the law, to be usurped by groups who have refused to work within the constraints of agreed upon political convention.

As all governments go, which derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, these have none. At any time, the citizenry would be justified in ousting this invading force, by whatever means necessary. As for those who have allowed this, yes, they too should be removed from office by whatever means are available or necessary.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: aligncare on June 10, 2020, 08:41:50 pm
It grows ever evident that the people elected to run these jurisdictions cannot. They are ceding real estate and power to an unelected authority, in effect, allowing the powers of government duly ceded by the people to elected officials, to be carried out within the constraints of the law, to be usurped by groups who have refused to work within the constraints of agreed upon political convention.

As all governments go, which derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, these have none. At any time, the citizenry would be justified in ousting this invading force, by whatever means necessary. As for those who have allowed this, yes, they too should be removed from office by whatever means are available or necessary.

I heard that the people living within the six block autonomous zone willingly consented to be governed by the unelected authority....or get the crap beat out of them and their houses fire bombed. They were given a generous offer they couldn’t refuse.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: 240B on June 10, 2020, 08:45:02 pm
Good! F**k Seattle!
I hope they burn the entire city down.
To hell with them.

And NO. Trump should not lift a finger to 'resolve' this, no national guard nor any other State.
Let them wallow in their own Liberal shit.

I know some people are upset, but I think this funny.
I think it's great!
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 10, 2020, 08:47:36 pm
If Portland and Seattle completely destroy themselves, perhaps something good can arise from the ashes.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: skeeter on June 10, 2020, 08:51:58 pm
Suddenly these morons believe in borders.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: berdie on June 10, 2020, 08:55:27 pm
If Portland and Seattle completely destroy themselves, perhaps something good can arise from the ashes.



I hope you are right. I usually try to look at the good in the possible outcome of a situation. But this does not portend a good outcome.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: dfwgator on June 10, 2020, 09:01:01 pm
Taking lessons from the IRA....

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Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 10, 2020, 09:02:57 pm
I heard that the people living within the six block autonomous zone willingly consented to be governed by the unelected authority....or get the crap beat out of them and their houses fire bombed. They were given a generous offer they couldn’t refuse.

It will be interesting to see in the coming days how many of those houses have for sale signs in their yards.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 10, 2020, 09:32:41 pm
????  I find this very alarming .... this is the worst thing that can happen right now; to allow any subversive group to control parts of our country.  Time to clean house.  :patriot: :patriot:
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Fishrrman on June 10, 2020, 09:45:35 pm
I doubt the Seattle municipal government will do anything to resolve this -- they are unwilling or perhaps unABLE to do so.

In that case, it will fall to the Washington State government, but I'm kinda doubting that it will do anything, either. Who's the governor there?

If this continues to grow and fester, it will fall to the feds to "reclaim" this "territory". And since the current insurgents are either armed or preparing to do so, that will require the force of arms.

Let the U.S. Army apply whatever force is required to resolve the situation.
OK with me.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 10, 2020, 09:48:52 pm
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 :silly:
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: EdinVA on June 10, 2020, 09:49:41 pm
I doubt the Seattle municipal government will do anything to resolve this -- they are unwilling or perhaps unABLE to do so.

In that case, it will fall to the Washington State government, but I'm kinda doubting that it will do anything, either. Who's the governor there?

If this continues to grow and fester, it will fall to the feds to "reclaim" this "territory". And since the current insurgents are either armed or preparing to do so, that will require the force of arms.

Let the U.S. Army apply whatever force is required to resolve the situation.
OK with me.
I am sure there are some interesting conversations taking places as we speak..... To bad the lefties are not watching this...
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 10, 2020, 09:50:59 pm
sheila   @liquidlaugh
All Seattle has to do is Cut the Cell Phone Service to these Kids
Cut the Power and Water too
If they cannot Live Stream they will go Home
It's about getting a Pic on Snap Chat and Zoom
3:29 PM · Jun 10, 2020
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: 240B on June 10, 2020, 09:54:04 pm
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The most confusing part of this is the Antifa Chapters all over the country. What are they waiting for!? Seattle is leading the way. Seattle has proven that autonomous districts under the direct control of Antifa are possible. Again! What are you waiting for!
Revolt Los Angeles!
Revolt Portland!
Revolt Chicago!
Revolt New York!
Follow in the footsteps of your Brave Brothers. Now is the time to take up arms and we have shown you the way.

Don't be silly little cowards. Follow us to Victory!! Antifa! Antifa! ANTIFA FOREVER!!
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 10, 2020, 10:18:04 pm
Good! F**k Seattle!
I hope they burn the entire city down.
To hell with them.

And NO. Trump should not lift a finger to 'resolve' this, no national guard nor any other State.
Let them wallow in their own Liberal shit.



@240B

I agree. If someone contacts him and asks him to bail them out,Trump should just tell them "Get back with me after you have arrested the entire city government,and are holding them for trial.",and then just hang up.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 10, 2020, 10:22:09 pm
I doubt the Seattle municipal government will do anything to resolve this -- they are unwilling or perhaps unABLE to do so.

In that case, it will fall to the Washington State government, but I'm kinda doubting that it will do anything, either. Who's the governor there?

If this continues to grow and fester, it will fall to the feds to "reclaim" this "territory". And since the current insurgents are either armed or preparing to do so, that will require the force of arms.

Let the U.S. Army apply whatever force is required to resolve the situation.
OK with me.
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@Fishrrman

And the media outlets all over the country blast video and photos on front pages of "Trump,using Nazi-like tactics has sent the US Military into Seattle to murder peaceful protestors."

It would guarantee he would lose the election,and a Dim would be elected.

Let them stew in their own juices,and start killing each other off. Don't even THINK of sending federal troops in until after the election.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 10, 2020, 10:28:24 pm
Julio Rosas  @Julio_Rosas11
1h
More pictures from inside the “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone”: A smoking section has been set up, a large makeshift banner is now on the East Precinct, and there is a “No Cop Co-op” shop.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaLjILxU0AA3VOo?format=jpg&name=360x360)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaLjITHUwAAG1B_?format=jpg&name=360x360) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaLjITIU4AAzxd4?format=jpg&name=360x360)
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Ian Miles Cheong  @stillgray
Antifa is now extorting local business owners in the Seattle autonomous zone. Of course they are.
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3:57 PM · Jun 10, 2020
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 10, 2020, 10:35:08 pm
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 :silly:

The fastest I ever saw somebody turn into Venezuela.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: aligncare on June 10, 2020, 10:37:08 pm


@sneakypete

It’s a sad indictment of politics that it can impede doing the right thing because of a coming election. No wonder we’re so screwed up.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: aligncare on June 10, 2020, 10:44:20 pm
Julio Rosas  @Julio_Rosas11
1h
More pictures from inside the “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone”: A smoking section has been set up, a large makeshift banner is now on the East Precinct, and there is a “No Cop Co-op” shop.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaLjILxU0AA3VOo?format=jpg&name=360x360)
 (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaLjILyU8AA6MLh?format=jpg&name=360x360])
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaLjITHUwAAG1B_?format=jpg&name=360x360) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaLjITIU4AAzxd4?format=jpg&name=360x360)
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Ian Miles Cheong  @stillgray
Antifa is now extorting local business owners in the Seattle autonomous zone. Of course they are.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaLQd3DUcAAH7mh?format=jpg&name=900x900)
3:57 PM · Jun 10, 2020

I heard Rush’s fill in today speculate that residents might be asked to pay protection money. Only that was in reference to the Latin Kings chasing away antifa mobs in Chicago.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 10, 2020, 10:48:58 pm

@sneakypete

It’s a sad indictment of politics that it can impede doing the right thing because of a coming election. No wonder we’re so screwed up.

@aligncare

It is truly a unjust world we are living in at the moment,but it is what it is,and we have to do what we must do/play whatever game we have to play in order to restore the US Constitution and bring sanity back.

The alternative is to become either slaves or executed prisoners.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 10, 2020, 10:51:33 pm
BREAKING: Antifa mob planning to take over more Seattle neighbourhoods
Following the surrender of the East Precinct of the Seattle Police Department, a source on the ground says that other precincts are preparing to be the next targets.
Ari Hoffman
10th June 2020
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Following the surrender of the East Precinct of the Seattle Police Department to an Antifa mob and the occupation of Seattle City Hall, a source on the ground in Seattle says that other police precincts around the city are preparing to be the next targets.

Regarding the autonomous zone established by the Antifa-led mob, the source—whose anonymity we are protecting—says, "They bar media from entering and screen people coming in. They are walking around fully armed. Talking about making their own currency and making their own flag. SPD is talking about abandoning the west precinct now.

"West precinct has the 911 call centre. This is just like the Occupy movement. Soon we will have feces and drugs everywhere and people getting assaulted and raped in the encampments.

"They've been relocating everything quietly while the focus has been elsewhere. They know that it's only a matter of time before these fools have to direct their issues back on the police. Since yesterday, I haven't seen a single police office or vehicle downtown. Even when they took over city hall, there were no signs of PD at headquarters across the street." ...
More at the Post Millennial (https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-antifa-mob-planning-to-take-over-more-seattle-neighbourhoods)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: 240B on June 10, 2020, 10:51:36 pm
Even if the Seattle mayor order police to clean this up, I imagine most/all of them would refuse. Why should I risk my life for the city only to be sued, fired, and then nationally vilified after if I succeed? Who needs it?

The same with the governor. If he orders NG in there, I am sure they would refuse. When the city and State have said and done everything possible to prove they are against law enforcement and police, who would be foolish enough to get involved in this? When you know you will be the 'bad guys' when it is all over.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 10, 2020, 10:54:56 pm
The fastest I ever saw somebody turn into Venezuela.
It's only six blocks. A bigger country takes longer.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 10, 2020, 10:57:24 pm
I heard Rush’s fill in today speculate that residents might be asked to pay protection money. Only that was in reference to the Latin Kings chasing away antifa mobs in Chicago.

@aligncare

A fine old tradition,first started in "Little Italy" in NYC by some guys who later came to be known as "The Mafia".

Can't WAIT to see these ANTIFI loons go into neighborhoods like that and try to shake down store owners and citizens,and get told to "go see Fat Louie about that. We are already paying him."
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 10, 2020, 10:58:17 pm
@aligncare

A fine old tradition,first started in "Little Italy" in NYC by some guys who later came to be known as "The Mafia".

Can't WAIT to see these ANTIFI loons go into neighborhoods like that and try to shake down store owners and citizens.
Roach motel time.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 10, 2020, 11:04:07 pm
CHAZ is such a stupid name for the occupied territory. Why not call it Antifastan?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: dfwgator on June 10, 2020, 11:04:07 pm
I heard Rush’s fill in today speculate that residents might be asked to pay protection money. Only that was in reference to the Latin Kings chasing away antifa mobs in Chicago.

"I'm not asking for a lot, just enough to wet my beak!"
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 10, 2020, 11:08:56 pm
CHAZ is such a stupid name for the occupied territory. 

@mountaineer

Well,they couldn't call it "Chuck",could they?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 10, 2020, 11:09:52 pm
Seattle Protesters Issue Demands: Abolish Police, Grant Amnesty, Give Free Health Care and College

Penny Starr 10 Jun 2020

Protesters who have cordoned off several blocks in Seattle, declaring it a “cop-free zone” and “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone,” have released a long list of demands, including abolition of the Seattle Police Department and prisons, amnesty for all illegal migrants, and free health care and college for all, especially for blacks as a form of reparations.

The protests are part of a wave of sometimes violent gatherings that have taken place across the country in the wake of the death of George Floyd, a black man who died at the hands of Minneapolis police.

“This document is to represent the black voices who spoke in victory at the top of 12th & Pine after 9 days of peaceful protest while under constant nightly attack from the Seattle Police Department. These are words from that night, June 8th, 2020,” the document states.

The demands are divided into four sections — the justice system, health and human services, economics, and education.

The justice system demands include that the “Seattle Council and the Mayor defund and abolish the Seattle Police Department and the attached Criminal Justice Apparatus.” This includes seizing police pensions. It also calls for prohibiting Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) from operating in the city.

Under the health and human services portion of the document it states, “We demand the hospitals and care facilities of Seattle employ black doctors and nurses specifically to help care for black patients” and — even though police will be gone if these demands are met — a separate 911 line manned by mental health professionals.

In both the economic section and elsewhere, the protesters demand free college, socialized medicine, and free public housing.

more
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/10/seattle-protesters-issue-demands-abolish-police-grant-amnesty-give-free-health-care-and-college/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/10/seattle-protesters-issue-demands-abolish-police-grant-amnesty-give-free-health-care-and-college/)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 10, 2020, 11:14:22 pm
Well,they couldn't call it "Chuck",could they?
"Wait, I had nothing to do with it!"
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Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Sighlass on June 10, 2020, 11:14:50 pm
The fools barricade themselves in (make a border wall) and if something catches fire they will just flee and laugh and set up in another neighborhood that will soon grow tired of being exhorted. Like communism, it has to expand and deplete new areas to survive.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 10, 2020, 11:15:10 pm
Shut off water and power, jam cell phones, cut the internet and landlines. Set up barricades and wait.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Fishrrman on June 10, 2020, 11:16:53 pm
240b wrote:
"The same with the governor. If he orders NG in there, I am sure they would refuse. When the city and State have said and done everything possible to prove they are against law enforcement and police, who would be foolish enough to get involved in this? When you know you will be the 'bad guys' when it is all over."

This is why nothing less than federal troops are going to be needed to "do the job" when the time comes.

And it WILL come.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 10, 2020, 11:22:22 pm
Shut off water and power, jam cell phones, cut the internet and landlines. Set up barricades and wait.
Unfortunately, the powers-that-be in city and state government are too stupid to take such steps. They're complicit in this circus.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on June 10, 2020, 11:22:45 pm
They also have their first warlord: a soundcloud rapper named "Raz Simone" who pointed guns at people and said that he was in charge last night.


 :pop41:
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: EdinVA on June 10, 2020, 11:23:03 pm
"Wait, I had nothing to do with it!"
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@mountaineer
I don't get it... splain it to  me lucy.. lol
 
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: 240B on June 10, 2020, 11:24:47 pm
240b wrote:
"The same with the governor. If he orders NG in there, I am sure they would refuse. When the city and State have said and done everything possible to prove they are against law enforcement and police, who would be foolish enough to get involved in this? When you know you will be the 'bad guys' when it is all over."

This is why nothing less than federal troops are going to be needed to "do the job" when the time comes.

And it WILL come.
NOPE!
If anything remotely Federal goes anywhere near this, the media will make Trump "own it".
It will become Trump's problem top to bottom. I do not believe he is that stupid.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 10, 2020, 11:29:13 pm
NOPE!
If anything remotely Federal goes anywhere near this, the media will make Trump "own it".
It will become Trump's problem top to bottom. I do not believe he is that stupid.
I wonder how many 'innocents' are caught in this 'zone'. Mrs. O'Leary's cow might have occasion to visit Seattle...

Bottle 'em up, cut them off, wait them out.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on June 10, 2020, 11:30:03 pm
So what do you guys think about the warlord? I hope he beats the shit out of antifa, frankly. He could kill every white person there and it'd only be a good thing.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 10, 2020, 11:31:47 pm
@mountaineer
I don't get it... splain it to  me lucy.. lol

The seriously ugly troll pasted to Cher's armpit is her daughter, Chastity.  She goes by "Chaz" now.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: EdinVA on June 10, 2020, 11:33:41 pm
The seriously ugly troll pasted to Cher's armpit is her daughter, Chastity.  She goes by "Chaz" now.
geezz....
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 10, 2020, 11:55:48 pm
geezz....

Enough to make ya puke blood....
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: truth_seeker on June 11, 2020, 12:01:43 am
Don't we have a prominent member from Washington State? Perhaps greater Seeattle?

Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 11, 2020, 12:06:15 am
Don't we have a prominent member from Washington State? Perhaps greater Seeattle?

I haven't a clue.  No recollection.  PM me a screen name.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: skeeter on June 11, 2020, 12:31:24 am
The seriously ugly troll pasted to Cher's armpit is her daughter, Chastity.  She goes by "Chaz" now.

Tough to image this was the cute kid they'd have on their show. What bizarre transformation.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: roamer_1 on June 11, 2020, 12:57:41 am
It will be interesting to see in the coming days how many of those houses have for sale signs in their yards.

It's like Detroit... By the time folks overcome their normalcy bias and understand what's going on, their property won't be worth spit. Them with sense have already evacuated ten years ago... Now it's a matter of how many can fit in the life boats. The ports-of-call are about all used up.

Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: skeeter on June 11, 2020, 01:12:26 am
Don't we have a prominent member from Washington State? Perhaps greater Seeattle?
Well if we did I’d bet she’d prolly be unable to post for being tied up rounding up vegan meals to pass out among the homeless living within their new colony.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 11, 2020, 01:58:59 am
Well if we did I’d bet she’d prolly be unable to post for being tied up rounding up vegan meals to pass out among the homeless living within their new colony.

If I recall ... she made so kind of comment preferring socialism .... :shrug:
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 11, 2020, 02:27:12 am
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fconservativehardliner.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2F2020-06%2Fantifa_commie_flag-min.jpeg&f=1&nofb=1)

The most confusing part of this is the Antifa Chapters all over the country. What are they waiting for!? Seattle is leading the way. Seattle has proven that autonomous districts under the direct control of Antifa are possible. Again! What are you waiting for!
Revolt Los Angeles!
Revolt Portland!
Revolt Chicago!
Revolt New York!
Follow in the footsteps of your Brave Brothers. Now is the time to take up arms and we have shown you the way.

Don't be silly little cowards. Follow us to Victory!! Antifa! Antifa! ANTIFA FOREVER!!
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUCTtrVUTU0&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR1n99uurE0dNg8u3gLO7jd6tQxLaZ8s2jrJRNueSxTjtM7Go-Pla6u1bRU#)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: skeeter on June 11, 2020, 02:31:26 am
If I recall ... she made so kind of comment preferring socialism .... :shrug:
Who else would consider “Trump enablers” their enemy? Who would use the term “Trump enabler”?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 11, 2020, 02:38:28 am
Who else would consider “Trump enablers” their enemy? Who would use the term “Trump enabler”?

Exactly.

Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 11, 2020, 02:56:03 am
Well if we did I’d bet she’d prolly be unable to post for being tied up rounding up vegan meals to pass out among the homeless living within their new colony.
Can you make booze out of tofu?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: skeeter on June 11, 2020, 02:58:49 am
Can you make booze out of tofu?
Might not be enough time. Gotta smoke it instead.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 11, 2020, 03:11:58 am
Might not be enough time. Gotta smoke it instead.
Hickory? Maybe a fruit wood? Mesquite?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Fishrrman on June 11, 2020, 04:15:30 am
240b wrote:
"NOPE!
If anything remotely Federal goes anywhere near this, the media will make Trump "own it".
It will become Trump's problem top to bottom. I do not believe he is that stupid."


You'll note that I included in my post "when the time comes".

What happens when the antifa/blm mob expands their area of control? The Seattle police department seems to have moved out and abandoned the area. The only "law" there now is the law of the mob/jungle.

How long before they start putting people there "on trial"?
And what will the "penalties" be?

I'm thinking that they'll also move to expand the area that they control. This IS NOT "peaceful protest". It's a full-blown insurrection and SOMEBODY is going to have to stop them at some point down the line. Who is that going to be? The Seattle police department? Are you kidding me? They FLED under instructions from the mayor, it seems.

It's easy to sit back and watch from a distance, and glibly proclaim "they brought this upon themselves", so live with it. And let it become a lesson for others.

But how's that gonna work out when they start beating and/or killing a few people... or more than "a few"...?

I'll repeat:
If this goes on too long, and the insurgents degenerate into something approximating a "reign of terror", SOMEBODY is gonna have to go in there and put an end to it.

And if the city police are incapable of doing it, and if the state national guard can't handle it... then just WHO is going to do it...?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 11, 2020, 04:26:07 am
240b wrote:
"NOPE!
If anything remotely Federal goes anywhere near this, the media will make Trump "own it".
It will become Trump's problem top to bottom. I do not believe he is that stupid."


You'll note that I included in my post "when the time comes".

What happens when the antifa/blm mob expands their area of control? The Seattle police department seems to have moved out and abandoned the area. The only "law" there now is the law of the mob/jungle.

How long before they start putting people there "on trial"?
And what will the "penalties" be?

I'm thinking that they'll also move to expand the area that they control. This IS NOT "peaceful protest". It's a full-blown insurrection and SOMEBODY is going to have to stop them at some point down the line. Who is that going to be? The Seattle police department? Are you kidding me? They FLED under instructions from the mayor, it seems.

It's easy to sit back and watch from a distance, and glibly proclaim "they brought this upon themselves", so live with it. And let it become a lesson for others.

But how's that gonna work out when they start beating and/or killing a few people... or more than "a few"...?

I'll repeat:
If this goes on too long, and the insurgents degenerate into something approximating a "reign of terror", SOMEBODY is gonna have to go in there and put an end to it.

And if the city police are incapable of doing it, and if the state national guard can't handle it... then just WHO is going to do it...?
You know how that goes...Justice. If'n the law won't take care of it, it's just us.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 11, 2020, 11:02:29 am
Apparently, this is the self-proclaimed warlord of Antifastan. You really can't make this stuff up.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaM6qwsU8AAsGCs?format=jpg&name=small)
Quote
Ian Miles Cheong  @stillgray·
7h
A SoundCloud rapper becoming the warlord in an Antifa insurgency-controlled autonomous zone in Seattle is proof we live in a simulation.

More:
Quote
TheWholeStory @TheWholeStory6
Raz Simone, a Seattle local, stated he belongs to the “People’s Force,” a replacement for Seattle PD in #FreeCapitolHill. On June 8th in a live video he advised that unfamiliar faces should be stopped, questioned, and checked to see if they’re armed, similar to “Stop and Frisk.”
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaHOjAgUYAAWMXw?format=jpg&name=medium)
9:10 PM · Jun 9, 2020
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 11, 2020, 12:26:20 pm
Why not just build a wall around the area and let the pot stew inside it?

Those people deserve each other.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 11, 2020, 12:28:47 pm
Don't we have a prominent member from Washington State? Perhaps greater Seeattle?
My daughter lives in Seattle.  She left with her family early in the COVID and has been living with us.

She and husband have made no effort to return so their apartment has been vacant for over three months.

It is a safety thing to her, first the COVID, and now the violence.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 11, 2020, 12:30:16 pm
Why not just build a wall around the area and let the pot stew inside it?

Those people deserve each other.

Compound for Antifa terrorist in Seattle?  Good...   Same concept as a Roach Motel. 
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 11, 2020, 01:00:44 pm
Trump warns he will take back Seattle from 'ugly Anarchists' if local leaders don't act
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/502203-trump-warns-he-will-take-back-seattle-from-ugly-anarchists-if-local
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 11, 2020, 01:08:24 pm
Trump warns he will take back Seattle from 'ugly Anarchists' if local leaders don't act
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/502203-trump-warns-he-will-take-back-seattle-from-ugly-anarchists-if-local
If these people wish to have their own community and country, Seattle is an excellent choice.

Turn the entire city over to them, and let those who think similarly flock to this paradise.

Each and every one loses US citizenship once they reach their new residence.

They wish to segregate by race?  Fine, let them do it there rather than in our country.

Building that wall around the place will ensure the plague that follows stays contained within and not reach our lands.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 11, 2020, 01:09:34 pm
Jay Inslee Laughs About Antifa's Rebellion in Seattle as He Demobilizes National Guard
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2020/06/10/jay-inslee-laughs-about-antifas-rebellion-in-seattle-as-he-demobilizes-national-guard-n516014
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 11, 2020, 01:15:07 pm
Jay Inslee Laughs About Antifa's Rebellion in Seattle as He Demobilizes National Guard
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2020/06/10/jay-inslee-laughs-about-antifas-rebellion-in-seattle-as-he-demobilizes-national-guard-n516014
But I bet he keeps the police around his own adobe
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 11, 2020, 01:21:36 pm
Jay Inslee Had No Idea Anarchists Had Taken Over His State’s Largest City
https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/11/jay-inslee-had-no-idea-anarchists-had-taken-over-his-states-largest-city/
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 11, 2020, 01:32:38 pm
The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone has already had its first incident of self-appointed-police violence
https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2020/06/10/capitol-hill-autonomous-zone-first-incident-self-appointed-police-violence/
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 11, 2020, 01:42:25 pm
Seattle mayor responds to Trump: 'Go back to your bunker'
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/502222-seattle-mayor-responds-to-trump-go-back-to-your-bunker
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: DCPatriot on June 11, 2020, 01:47:36 pm
Why not just build a wall around the area and let the pot stew inside it?

Those people deserve each other.

Unacceptable, @IsailedawayfromFR

This doesn't call for a 'Siege of Leningrad'.   This calls for a reenactment of taking Fallujah, Iraq.

Building by building...block by block.  NO PRISONERS!! 

SHOOT THEM ON SIGHT!
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: XenaLee on June 11, 2020, 01:48:57 pm
Enough to make ya puke blood....

I think that he/she/it/they/whatever turned out pretty good.....

considering who he/she/it/their/whatever's mother is.    888mouth
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 11, 2020, 01:53:06 pm
Unacceptable, @IsailedawayfromFR

This doesn't call for a 'Siege of Leningrad'.   This calls for a reenactment of taking Fallujah, Iraq.

Building by building...block by block.  NO PRISONERS!! 

SHOOT THEM ON SIGHT!

@DCPatriot
Whoaaaa there Tex...    That plays into their hand.  Antifa / BLM would love nothing better than creating a bunch of martyrs.

I vote for the seige approach.  Starve the mf'ers out.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 11, 2020, 01:55:16 pm
Unacceptable, @IsailedawayfromFR

This doesn't call for a 'Siege of Leningrad'.   This calls for a reenactment of taking Fallujah, Iraq.

Building by building...block by block.  NO PRISONERS!! 

SHOOT THEM ON SIGHT!
On the other hand, this is a good opportunity to separate those who hate the USA from the rest of us.  Let them occupy and renounce citizenship.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: skeeter on June 11, 2020, 01:57:55 pm
Unacceptable, @IsailedawayfromFR

This doesn't call for a 'Siege of Leningrad'.   This calls for a reenactment of taking Fallujah, Iraq.

Building by building...block by block.  NO PRISONERS!! 

SHOOT THEM ON SIGHT!

This siege will last as long as the occupiers can steal internet and the expresso beans at the occupied Starbucks holds out.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 11, 2020, 02:03:53 pm
Building that wall around the place will ensure the plague that follows stays contained within and not reach our lands.

I'd go one step further .... don't let them out AND don't let anyone in.

Let the insurgents grow their own food, find their own water, wallow in their own stench and fight their warlords all by themselves.

Anyone left alive in a week should be hauled off to prison, including the mayor.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Idiot on June 11, 2020, 02:04:26 pm
This siege will last as long as the occupiers can steal internet and the expresso beans at the occupied Starbucks holds out.
Yup...when they are out of coffee they are done...
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 11, 2020, 02:16:17 pm
I'm in the "lay siege and starve them out" school of thought.  It's less risky to the infrastructure.  We already know food is a problem, and they're demanding Vegan diets.  An easy weak link to exploit.  Bacon isn't just a foodstuff, it's a weapon.  Then cut electricity and shut down cell towers to cut them off from the internet.

Then mass arrests as they surrender, starting with Peoples Police President Mustafa, or whatever it is he calls himself, jailed the longest.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: skeeter on June 11, 2020, 02:20:05 pm
I'm in the "lay siege and starve them out" school of thought.  It's less risky to the infrastructure.  We already know food is a problem, and they're demanding Vegan diets.  An easy weak link to exploit.  Bacon isn't just a foodstuff, it's a weapon.  Then cut electricity and shut down cell towers to cut them off from the internet.

Then mass arrests as they surrender, starting with Peoples Police President Mustafa, or whatever it is he calls himself, jailed the longest.

Mustafa? This guy's been watching too many Dirty Harry movies.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 11, 2020, 02:25:39 pm
Quote
Occupy Wall Street Showed Us How Seattle’s ‘Autonomous Zone’ Will End
The Federalist, Jun 11, 2020, David Marcus

[...]

There is reason to believe that the intellectuals will be coming to the rescue in Seattle. The online organization Anonymous, a big player in OWS has come down firmly on the side of CHAZ (Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone) and that brings with it organizational heft. Given the fecklessness of Seattle and Washington State’s government, this is an occupation that might very well have legs.

If a long lasting stalemate is beginning, then the question becomes how does it end? Here Occupy is informative. Then mayor Michael Bloomberg and the NYPD gave OWS an alarmingly wide birth during their illegal occupation of Zuccotti Park. The original strategy was something along the lines of “let the kids tucker themselves out.” That didn’t happen, but something else did, something at the heart of the protests that gave birth to CHAZ.

Reports of crimes inside Occupy Wall Street began to emerge. The occupiers insisted that they were capable of policing themselves (sound familiar?) and refused to allow police to investigate. But then reports of sexual assault began. Not only that, a “women only” tent was constructed to “protect” women in the occupation. That was enough for the NYPD to act. Within days it was over.

If Seattle doesn’t nip its own occupation in the bud, it is very likely these events will repeat themselves. An anarchist street fair taking up a few square blocks of the city is tolerable and tenable, violent crime including sexual assault is not. The question for Seattle’s government and police is, just as it was in New York a decade ago, not if, but when they will break up the so called “autonomous zone.”

This is a stark and important decision. If they act sooner they risk raising the ire of a segment of the public sympathetic to the occupiers. But if they let it stay and grow there is no question crime will exist within CHAZ and they will have to do their jobs to protect the citizens of Seattle. The bottom line is that this is a situation that is bound to become ugly. Maybe cooler heads will prevail before that happens, but don’t count on it.

More:  https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/11/occupy-wall-street-showed-us-how-seattles-autonomous-zone-will-end/
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: rangerrebew on June 11, 2020, 02:44:16 pm

Report: Antifa Seeks Armed Volunteers to Hold Seized Ground in Seattle
 
AWR Hawkins10 Jun 202010,243
2:14

Antifa is reportedly seeking armed volunteers to take turns manning barricades and holding ground that protesters have seized within Seattle city limits.

The Gateway Pundit reports Antifa set up an “autonomous zone” that includes six square blocks they seized in Seattle. They are reportedly “advocating for ‘folks with firearms’ to take shifts defending the barricades” around the six blocks.

Medium reports the alleged seizure of the city blocks was followed by a list of 30 demands for the City Council and Seattle Mayor.
 
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/10/report-antifa-seeks-armed-volunteers-to-hold-seized-ground-in-seattle/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+breitbart+%28Breitbart+News%29 (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/10/report-antifa-seeks-armed-volunteers-to-hold-seized-ground-in-seattle/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+breitbart+%28Breitbart+News%29)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: rangerrebew on June 11, 2020, 02:48:36 pm
 Seattle Anarchists Holding Capitol Hostage Demand Complete Return To State Of Nature
June 10, 2020 By Tristan Justice

The radical left-wing militia of anarchists that took over the Seattle City Hall this week released its long list of demands Wednesday to return its newly-established “autonomous zone” on Capitol Hill back to the public.

Among them include the total abolition of the city’s police force, the blanket exoneration of felons, explicit segregation in hospitals and schools, and mandatory re-education of teachers and public servants to adhere to the new world order after ousting the progressive mayor.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/10/seattle-anarchists-holding-capitol-hostage-demand-complete-return-to-state-of-nature/
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 11, 2020, 02:54:20 pm
Apparently, this is the self-proclaimed warlord of Antifastan. You really can't make this stuff up.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaM6qwsU8AAsGCs?format=jpg&name=small)
More:
The mayor and governor should be demanding he place his mask back on so he does not contaminate others.

They need to uphold the law.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: skeeter on June 11, 2020, 03:16:27 pm
Contrast the media coverage here with how they covered the Citizens for Constitutional Freedom dustup a few years back, which actually resulted in the questionable killing of a principle protestor.

The media yawned when they weren't implying that Lavoy Finicum deserved what he got.

#%$ frauds.

Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 11, 2020, 03:22:38 pm
Why not just build a wall around the area and let the pot stew inside it?

Those people deserve each other.

@IsailedawayfromFR

Works for me.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 11, 2020, 03:26:47 pm
@IsailedawayfromFR

Works for me.

Anitfa ferals of these kind will turn on each other like jackals and hyenas once the going gets tough.  I hope they get some good footage of it.

 :2popcorn:
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: aligncare on June 11, 2020, 03:34:27 pm
These people (green new deal, defund the police, LGBTQ, antifa, DEMOCRATS, systemic racism, on and on) are violent, ignorant, medieval mobs tearing down statues, history, the Enlightenment and civilization itself.

Mentally ill doesn’t cover it all, many are simply evil groups of subversives and are calculating an organized chaos in order to tear down traditional American values and replace it with ? (most can’t even articulate a coherent “what?”).


Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 11, 2020, 03:38:04 pm
These people (green new deal, defund the police, LGBTQ, antifa, DEMOCRATS, systemic racism, on and on) are violent, ignorant, medieval mobs tearing down statues, history, the Enlightenment and civilization itself.

Mentally ill doesn’t cover it all, many are simply evil groups of subversives and are calculating an organized chaos in order to tear down traditional American values and replace it with ? (most can’t even articulate a coherent “what?”).

Lenin, Krurschev, and Stalin are looking up from hell, smiling, and toasting A Vodka on the delayed good fortune, 
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 11, 2020, 03:38:35 pm
On the other hand, this is a good opportunity to separate those who hate the USA from the rest of us.  Let them occupy and renounce citizenship.

@IsailedawayfromFR

Nothing works as well as  having traitors and other criminals self-identify.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Hoodat on June 11, 2020, 03:48:24 pm
They wish to segregate by race?  Fine, let them do it there rather than in our country.

Building that wall around the place will ensure the plague that follows stays contained within and not reach our lands.

Kind of like Warsaw 1944.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: XenaLee on June 11, 2020, 04:01:10 pm
Anyone that thinks that the leftist PTBs in control of Seattle will do anything 'but' bend over and appease these violent leftists is delusional.   And if Trump even tried to step in and do something, the left would scream "states rights".... since it's not a rabid leftie in the WH now.  Just sayin....
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 11, 2020, 04:06:39 pm
Anyone that thinks that the leftist PTBs in control of Seattle will do anything 'but' bend over and appease these violent leftists is delusional.   And if Trump even tried to step in and do something, the left would scream "states rights".... since it's not a rabid leftie in the WH now.  Just sayin....

Seige and wait for dispersal.

In order...  Block wifi, supply lines, electricity, and lastly water. 

They think they are bad asses, but watch what happens if we send them back to the 19th century. 
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Hoodat on June 11, 2020, 04:11:34 pm
I say let them have it.  Watch how it pans out.  Let's see if Orwell was right.

(http://bluecerealeducation.com/sites/default/files/AnimalFarm1.jpg)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 11, 2020, 04:12:43 pm
Seige and wait for dispersal.

In order...  Block wifi, supply lines, electricity, and lastly water. 
You know they won't pay water and electric bills. The question is whether the utilities have the cojones to do what they'd do to any of us, and shut them down for nonpayment. In Seattle, I doubt it.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 11, 2020, 04:15:49 pm
You know they won't pay water and electric bills. The question is whether the utilities have the cojones to do what they'd do to any of us, and shut them down for nonpayment. In Seattle, I doubt it.

Thinking not as much as a utility action, but tactics needed by Law Enforcement, and National Guard.  Believe me....   They Trump the utilty companies.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Fishrrman on June 11, 2020, 04:23:18 pm
catfish wrote:
"I vote for the seige approach.  Starve the mf'ers out."

Here's the police chief of Seattle:
(https://mynorthwest.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/CarmenBest_620_AP.jpg)
How much action do ya think that SHE'S gonna use against her black brothers to retake the autonomous area...?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 11, 2020, 04:27:11 pm
catfish wrote:
"I vote for the seige approach.  Starve the mf'ers out."

Here's the police chief of Seattle:
(https://mynorthwest.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/CarmenBest_620_AP.jpg)
How much action do ya think that SHE'S gonna use against her black brothers to retake the autonomous area...?

After they finally figure out she's a feckless fool, the FBI and National Guard will/should step in.  Ruby Ridge, had 1/10  of the seriousness of an overall takeover part of a city like this.  This won't go on forever.  Watch them give her 72 hours to resolve it.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: truth_seeker on June 11, 2020, 04:58:38 pm
It will be interesting to see in the coming days how many of those houses have for sale signs in their yards.
There is a fancy house on Lake Washington, owned by Bill and Melinda Gates.

I seriously doubt the chaos and havok will reach said locales.

Maybe some input from our infiltrator, local expert?

Any words from top dem officials, about saving Seattle
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 11, 2020, 05:00:46 pm
My daughter lives in Seattle.  She left with her family early in the COVID and has been living with us.

She and husband have made no effort to return so their apartment has been vacant for over three months.

It is a safety thing to her, first the COVID, and now the violence.

Well, I'm sure most of their belongings are there, but belonging can always be repurchased.  Lives can't. I think it is fortunate that they have an apartment, rather than a house.  Can always just let the lease expire rather than having to sell a home.  I don't see property values holding.

Please don't think I'm being cold to the situation; I'm glad your daughter and family are safe.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 11, 2020, 05:03:47 pm
Trump warns he will take back Seattle from 'ugly Anarchists' if local leaders don't act
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/502203-trump-warns-he-will-take-back-seattle-from-ugly-anarchists-if-local

Please....by now Antifa and the rest of the thugs realize that he's been bluffing.  He hasn't done a darn thing; he keeps making idle threats and does nothing.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: skeeter on June 11, 2020, 05:12:09 pm
Please....by now Antifa and the rest of the thugs realize that he's been bluffing.  He hasn't done a darn thing; he keeps making idle threats and does nothing.

With the Pentagon he's got now I'm not sure he can do anything but bluff.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 11, 2020, 05:14:44 pm
With the Pentagon he's got now I'm not sure he can do anything but bluff.

I plead ignorance on that one; I'm not aware of the situation with the Pentagon.  Please enlighten me.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: aligncare on June 11, 2020, 05:17:26 pm
I plead ignorance on that one; I'm not aware of the situation with the Pentagon.  Please enlighten me.

It’s woke and became thus under Obama.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: DCPatriot on June 11, 2020, 05:20:40 pm
Please....by now Antifa and the rest of the thugs realize that he's been bluffing.  He hasn't done a darn thing; he keeps making idle threats and does nothing.

Like Soetoro once said:  "Tell Vlad that I'll have more flexibility AFTER the election".

Donald J. Trump will become Attila the Hun on their asses if this isn't over by November 10th.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 11, 2020, 05:54:11 pm
I plead ignorance on that one; I'm not aware of the situation with the Pentagon.  Please enlighten me.
He has generals who don't believe his being commander in chief means they actually have to listen to him, let alone obey his orders. (More or less).
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 11, 2020, 05:57:06 pm
He has generals who don't believe his being commander in chief means they actually have to listen to him, let alone obey his orders. (More or less).

OK, another question.  I also don't know how those generals become members of the Pentagon?  Who and how are they placed?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: 240B on June 11, 2020, 05:59:58 pm

Please....by now Antifa and the rest of the thugs realize that he's been bluffing.  He hasn't done a darn thing; he keeps making idle threats and does nothing.
I hope Trump doesn't go anywhere near this mess. That's what the governor is counting on.
The whole reason the governor said, "I don't know anything about this?" is specifically because he wants Trump to fix it. That way any casualties or issues that happen there are all Trump's fault.

The governor and every politician in Washington State will claim that they had nothing to do with it. They didn't even know about it, until Trump and his government thugs and attacked the "peaceful protesters".

Washington State wants to, and is attempting to make Trump the fall guy in their mess.

Trump should not go anywhere near this. It is not his problem.

If the governor wanted it resolved, he would resolve it. The fact that he does nothing implicitly means that he supports Antifa and the takeover.

Trump would be a fool to get involved.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Hoodat on June 11, 2020, 06:04:06 pm
I hope Trump doesn't go anywhere near this mess. That's what the governor is counting on.
The whole reason the governor said, "I don't know anything about this?" is specifically because he wants Trump to fix it. That way any casualties or issues that happen there are all Trump's fault.

Ditto
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 11, 2020, 06:04:37 pm
Trump should not go anywhere near this. It is not his problem.

If the governor wanted it resolved, he would resolve it. The fact that he does nothing implicitly means that he supports Antifa and the takeover.
:amen:
This mess is at the feet of the voters of the state of Washington and the fools they've elected. It is not the president's problem to solve.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: EdinVA on June 11, 2020, 06:16:43 pm
I hope Trump doesn't go anywhere near this mess. That's what the governor is counting on.
The whole reason the governor said, "I don't know anything about this?" is specifically because he wants Trump to fix it. That way any casualties or issues that happen there are all Trump's fault.

The governor and every politician in Washington State will claim that they had nothing to do with it. They didn't even know about it, until Trump and his government thugs and attacked the "peaceful protesters".

Washington State wants to, and is attempting to make Trump the fall guy in their mess.

Trump should not go anywhere near this. It is not his problem.

If the governor wanted it resolved, he would resolve it. The fact that he does nothing implicitly means that he supports Antifa and the takeover.

Trump would be a fool to get involved.
888high58888
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 11, 2020, 06:23:56 pm
Well, I'm sure most of their belongings are there, but belonging can always be repurchased.  Lives can't. I think it is fortunate that they have an apartment, rather than a house.  Can always just let the lease expire rather than having to sell a home.  I don't see property values holding.

Please don't think I'm being cold to the situation; I'm glad your daughter and family are safe.
You echo mine own sentiments.

Have lived in a lot of places like California and New York and never seen the rampant idiocy prevalent than when I visited up there.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 11, 2020, 06:26:10 pm
catfish wrote:
"I vote for the seige approach.  Starve the mf'ers out."

Here's the police chief of Seattle:
(https://mynorthwest.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/CarmenBest_620_AP.jpg)
How much action do ya think that SHE'S gonna use against her black brothers to retake the autonomous area...?
Likely the next mayor.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 11, 2020, 06:27:39 pm
Likely the next mayor.(https://mynorthwest.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/CarmenBest_620_AP.jpg)
and here's her chief of police
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaM6qwsU8AAsGCs?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: aligncare on June 11, 2020, 06:45:19 pm
I hope Trump doesn't go anywhere near this mess. That's what the governor is counting on.
The whole reason the governor said, "I don't know anything about this?" is specifically because he wants Trump to fix it. That way any casualties or issues that happen there are all Trump's fault.

The governor and every politician in Washington State will claim that they had nothing to do with it. They didn't even know about it, until Trump and his government thugs and attacked the "peaceful protesters".

Washington State wants to, and is attempting to make Trump the fall guy in their mess.

Trump should not go anywhere near this. It is not his problem.

If the governor wanted it resolved, he would resolve it. The fact that he does nothing implicitly means that he supports Antifa and the takeover.

Trump would be a fool to get involved.

That seems to be the general consensus from conservative radio talkers, too.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: XenaLee on June 11, 2020, 07:03:34 pm
:amen:
This mess is at the feet of the voters of the state of Washington and the fools they've elected. It is not the president's problem to solve.

That's right.   And the RL is wet-dreaming about Trump interfering (another setup) so they can start in with impeachment BS again... along with using it as a campaign issue with which to defeat him in November.  I hope he doesn't fall for it.   All he 'should' do is point to how badly leftist-run states are screwed up.... due to voting for Democrats.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 11, 2020, 07:06:27 pm
I just came across this twitter account:
CHAZUpdates   @chaz_updates (https://twitter.com/chaz_updates)
Update Account for the wacky shit that happens in the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ)
(Not Associated with CHAZ in any way)

One of the updates:
Quote
CHAZUpdates @chaz_updates
They have a "farm" up as of today, most of them have probably never seen a cow irl, let alone do any gardening, so a lot of the plants aren't even planted and half of them are staring at it expecting it to grow into ripe tomatoes any minute now
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaPmOpUXYAcR_9x?format=jpg&name=small) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaPmPZOXgAEJKnH?format=jpg&name=360x360) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaPmQdLWAAEuKvc?format=jpg&name=360x360) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaPmmKkWoAYQQok?format=png&name=small)

12:12 PM · Jun 11, 2020
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 11, 2020, 07:16:28 pm
:amen:
This mess is at the feet of the voters of the state of Washington and the fools they've elected. It is not the president's problem to solve.

I'd normally agree, but not responding basically says we are ceding an Antifa stronghold and base.  That will only embolden them.

That's why Local. state, federal ....whoever needs to induce a siege strategy and just wait the garbage out
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 11, 2020, 07:19:16 pm
I'd normally agree, but not responding basically says we are ceding an Antifa stronghold and base.  That will only embolden them.

That's why Local. state, federal ....whoever needs to induce a siege strategy and just wait the garbage out
I have no problem with Trump turning off the money that flows into the state of Washington, King County and the city of Seattle. Don't know whether that's even possible, though, given the enormity of the bureaucracy.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 11, 2020, 07:21:04 pm
:amen:
This mess is at the feet of the voters of the state of Washington and the fools they've elected. It is not the president's problem to solve.

I have to disagree on this one; yes ultimately it is a state issue.  However, when a state loses control of one of their cities and their citizens are threatened, then it is the responsibility of the President.  He is Chief of State; head of the government and his duty is to protect the people of this country.

If he allows Seattle to fall, it will only be a matter of time before we see city after city become overtaken.  Then you will see a civil war. I for one hope we can avoid that.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: EdinVA on June 11, 2020, 07:28:09 pm
I'd normally agree, but not responding basically says we are ceding an Antifa stronghold and base.  That will only embolden them.

That's why Local. state, federal ....whoever needs to induce a siege strategy and just wait the garbage out

WE?  I was not the one that decided to abandon the police station..... Washington state owns this....
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 11, 2020, 07:33:47 pm
WE?  I was not the one that decided to abandon the police station..... Washington state owns this....

Issues's now not whose fault it is.  We are past that.  It's now a tactical war issue.  If you don't think we aren't at war with BLM/Antifa, and are in danger of providng them a base of opeation, much like ISIS, Taliban, etc.  then......
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: 240B on June 11, 2020, 07:34:07 pm

I have to disagree on this one; yes ultimately it is a state issue.  However, when a state loses control of one of their cities and their citizens are threatened, then it is the responsibility of the President.  He is Chief of State; head of the government and his duty is to protect the people of this country.

If he allows Seattle to fall, it will only be a matter of time before we see city after city become overtaken.  Then you will see a civil war. I for one hope we can avoid that.
Maybe in ordinary times you would be correct. However, when the Governor, Mayor, and half the State/City bureaucracy are siding with Antifa, then it becomes a State's Rights issue. The citizens voted for these people to represent them. If the duly elected representatives decide to side with Antifa, then so be it.

It is not for the Federal Government to interfere in a purely Statewide issue. Seattle and Washington State have the right to be Antifa if that is what the citizens there voted for and want. None of my or yours business. Trump has nothing to do with this.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: dfwgator on June 11, 2020, 07:47:50 pm
I have to disagree on this one; yes ultimately it is a state issue.  However, when a state loses control of one of their cities and their citizens are threatened, then it is the responsibility of the President.  He is Chief of State; head of the government and his duty is to protect the people of this country.

If he allows Seattle to fall, it will only be a matter of time before we see city after city become overtaken.  Then you will see a civil war. I for one hope we can avoid that.

I don't see how it can be avoided now.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: EdinVA on June 11, 2020, 07:50:53 pm
Issues's now not whose fault it is.  We are past that.  It's now a tactical war issue.  If you don't think we aren't at war with BLM/Antifa, and are in danger of providng them a base of opeation, much like ISIS, Taliban, etc.  then......
Well, I am opposed to bailouts.
They have the means to solve this, it is not like they have to deal with a huge army, it is a small group of thugs AND the state government surrendered.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: goatprairie on June 11, 2020, 07:59:10 pm
:amen:
This mess is at the feet of the voters of the state of Washington and the fools they've elected. It is not the president's problem to solve.
Washington is very strong Dem state, but almost 40% of the electorate voted for Trump in 2016.
Do they deserve to be treated like trash by the Dems?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 11, 2020, 08:03:30 pm
Gov. Jay Inslee Demands Trump ‘Stay Out of Washington State’s Business’ amid Autonomous Zone Controversy
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/11/gov-jay-inslee-demands-trump-stay-out-washington-states-business-autonomous-zone-controversy/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/11/gov-jay-inslee-demands-trump-stay-out-washington-states-business-autonomous-zone-controversy/)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: truth_seeker on June 11, 2020, 08:05:21 pm
Covid 2nd wave propoganda from Russia, Red China, per Epochh (Taiwan, per EU)

Civil disrest (social distancing dropped, to burn cities)

By Any Means Necessary

Cdown 1800

Biden-Harris

Will social media giants help dems

OTOH George P Bush,  top military guy walks remarks back

Takes me back to 1968

BUT in  1968 MLK and RLK were KILLED, Dem convention Chicago.  riots in the street. Wash DC burned.  Hundreds of men killed each week in Vitnam.

Nixon/Agnew elected for Law & Order.

Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: skeeter on June 11, 2020, 08:06:41 pm
Gov. Jay Inslee Demands Trump ‘Stay Out of Washington State’s Business’ amid Autonomous Zone Controversy
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/11/gov-jay-inslee-demands-trump-stay-out-washington-states-business-autonomous-zone-controversy/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/11/gov-jay-inslee-demands-trump-stay-out-washington-states-business-autonomous-zone-controversy/)

Lunatics.

Trump wins in November and the fists will start flying. Take it to the bank.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: goatprairie on June 11, 2020, 08:08:25 pm
I have to disagree on this one; yes ultimately it is a state issue.  However, when a state loses control of one of their cities and their citizens are threatened, then it is the responsibility of the President.  He is Chief of State; head of the government and his duty is to protect the people of this country.

If he allows Seattle to fall, it will only be a matter of time before we see city after city become overtaken.  Then you will see a civil war. I for one hope we can avoid that.
:thumbsup: The state if maybe only about 60% lib. The 40% conservatives don't deserve to be tyrannized because the majority is insane.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: goatprairie on June 11, 2020, 08:10:03 pm
Maybe in ordinary times you would be correct. However, when the Governor, Mayor, and half the State/City bureaucracy are siding with Antifa, then it becomes a State's Rights issue. The citizens voted for these people to represent them. If the duly elected representatives decide to side with Antifa, then so be it.

It is not for the Federal Government to interfere in a purely Statewide issue. Seattle and Washington State have the right to be Antifa if that is what the citizens there voted for and want. None of my or yours business. Trump has nothing to do with this.
So the majority get to tyrannize the minority?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 11, 2020, 08:11:35 pm
Please....by now Antifa and the rest of the thugs realize that he's been bluffing.  He hasn't done a darn thing; he keeps making idle threats and does nothing.

I don't want the President sending the army into a state that doesn't want them,  That's an absolute disaster in the making.

I'd prefer the President let the governor, the mayor and the citizens of Washington know he stands at the ready to assist them.  And absent an outbreak of violence, let Washington deal with this.  They're reaping what they sowed ... and few are disappointed.

In the meantime, block the internet and do the best one can to keep the media out.  Both are fanning the flames and elevating this to a height it doesn't deserve..



Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: 240B on June 11, 2020, 08:16:22 pm
Gov. Jay Inslee Demands Trump ‘Stay Out of Washington State’s Business’ amid Autonomous Zone Controversy
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/11/gov-jay-inslee-demands-trump-stay-out-washington-states-business-autonomous-zone-controversy/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/11/gov-jay-inslee-demands-trump-stay-out-washington-states-business-autonomous-zone-controversy/)
Good! I agree, wholeheartedly!
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: DCPatriot on June 11, 2020, 08:16:35 pm
I have to disagree on this one; yes ultimately it is a state issue.  However, when a state loses control of one of their cities and their citizens are threatened, then it is the responsibility of the President.  He is Chief of State; head of the government and his duty is to protect the people of this country.

If he allows Seattle to fall, it will only be a matter of time before we see city after city become overtaken.  Then you will see a civil war. I for one hope we can avoid that.

Exactly, @libertybele

1) Throw out the media.
2) Cutoff all utilities
3) Send in the 82nd Airborne
4) Kill them all...wherever possible

We overthrew Saddam Hussein in about 35 days.

'Capitol Hill', Seattle should take about 35 hours.  To Hell with the optics.

The citizenry will thank him.  And so will the nation.

Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: 240B on June 11, 2020, 08:18:24 pm
So the majority get to tyrannize the minority?
Apparently you do not understand how elections work, or what they are for.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: EdinVA on June 11, 2020, 08:19:06 pm
So the majority get to tyrannize the minority?

Seattle police dept has around 1400 and the state police has another 1000 officers.... how big an army do you need?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Hoodat on June 11, 2020, 08:19:51 pm
So the majority get to tyrannize the minority?

It's what Democrats have been doing since 1836.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 11, 2020, 08:20:42 pm
Well, I am opposed to bailouts.
They have the means to solve this, it is not like they have to deal with a huge army, it is a small group of thugs AND the state government surrendered.

Exactly....  A simple Vicksburg type of seige by whoever first steps up on the food chain, even if that becomes the FBI, or National Guard  Vicksburg was able to hold out 3 1/2 months.  These Anifa thugs won't last much more than a week. 
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 11, 2020, 08:21:22 pm
That seems to be the general consensus from conservative radio talkers, too.

I don't see why we don't let Seattle just twist in the wind.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 11, 2020, 08:31:05 pm
I don't see why we don't let Seattle just twist in the wind.

My generally feeling too, except you don't give your enemies a home base or territory to wage war. 
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 11, 2020, 08:41:19 pm
My generally feeling too, except you don't give your enemies a home base or territory to wage war.

Then lay siege. Cut off utilities and shut down the cell phone towers.  Nothing goes in or out, and arrest anybody trying to leave. If the city refuses, then move the blockade out to the city limits.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 11, 2020, 08:44:19 pm
Then lay siege. Cut off utilities and shut down the cell phone towers.  Nothing goes in or out, and arrest anybody trying to leave. If the city refuses, then move the blockade out to the city limits.

EXACTLY!!!!
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Hoodat on June 11, 2020, 08:48:16 pm
Then lay siege. Cut off utilities and shut down the cell phone towers.  Nothing goes in or out, and arrest anybody trying to leave. If the city refuses, then move the blockade out to the city limits.

Even easier, stop giving them free shit.  If they want cell tower access, they can pay for it.  Electricity and water?  They can pay for that too.  Food tents?  Food costs money.  Let them have a go at it.  They can tax the people inside their little zone to pay for their services.  Put a big wall around it.  Let them choose.  America?  Or Fascist Utopia?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 11, 2020, 08:51:10 pm
They can tax the people inside their little zone to pay for their services.

I've read they are charging all the businesses in their zone $500 each for protection.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 11, 2020, 09:18:20 pm
I don't want the President sending the army into a state that doesn't want them,  That's an absolute disaster in the making.

I'd prefer the President let the governor, the mayor and the citizens of Washington know he stands at the ready to assist them.  And absent an outbreak of violence, let Washington deal with this.  They're reaping what they sowed ... and few are disappointed.

In the meantime, block the internet and do the best one can to keep the media out.  Both are fanning the flames an elevating this to a height it doesn't deserve..

Yes, ideally it should be left up to the governor and the mayor.  The mayor obviously isn't protecting the citizens and the governor is denying what is happening; that is also a recipe for a disaster.  Should a disaster erupt, and Trump doesn't step in, my concern is Antifa and thugs will  converge on the next city and then the next, assuming that they will continue to get away with controlling areaswherever they please which will be an even greater disaster and even harder to push back.  Things need to be nipped in the bud now.

IMHO Trump has already commented on what he will do if necessary, unfortunately he's made the same threat a couple of times and hasn't done anything, that has only sent a signal to them that they can continue doing what they are doing.  There isn't any incentive for them to stop because no one is stopping them.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 11, 2020, 09:20:03 pm
@DCPatriot
Whoaaaa there Tex...    That plays into their hand.  Antifa / BLM would love nothing better than creating a bunch of martyrs.

I vote for the seige approach.  Starve the mf'ers out.
It doesn't matter. Typical totalitarians, they will just say the last bunch didn't do it right, didn't try hard enough, didn't have the resources they needed (please click the donate button).
Same ol same ol song and dance, with the same inevitable results.

No, don't give them any martyrs, let them fester in their own juices. With their Lord of the Flies.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Hoodat on June 11, 2020, 09:21:36 pm
I've read they are charging all the businesses in their zone $500 each for protection.

$500 so far.   That will increase a hundredfold within a matter of weeks.  And if they don't pay, their businesses will be confiscated.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 11, 2020, 09:25:15 pm
After they finally figure out she's a feckless fool, the FBI and National Guard will/should step in.  Ruby Ridge, had 1/10  of the seriousness of an overall takeover part of a city like this.  This won't go on forever.  Watch them give her 72 hours to resolve it.
Ruby Ridge never would have happened if the Feds hadn't tried to get a man to spy on his neighbors to get out of a gun violation that was entrapment.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Hoodat on June 11, 2020, 09:26:26 pm
No, don't give them any martyrs, let them fester in their own juices. With their Lord of the Flies.

This is how Ayn Rand described it:

  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCmJUobwKQk#)


  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEJrgsooLc0#)


  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFhlqQ1dUUM#)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 11, 2020, 09:34:34 pm
I just came across this twitter account:
CHAZUpdates   @chaz_updates (https://twitter.com/chaz_updates)
Update Account for the wacky shit that happens in the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ)
(Not Associated with CHAZ in any way)

One of the updates:
I guess they don't have any idea how much farm it takes to feed people.
Maybe they should call Mike Bloomberg. He can teach them how in five minutes...

 :silly:
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 11, 2020, 09:37:46 pm
I have to disagree on this one; yes ultimately it is a state issue.  However, when a state loses control of one of their cities and their citizens are threatened, then it is the responsibility of the President.  He is Chief of State; head of the government and his duty is to protect the people of this country.

If he allows Seattle to fall, it will only be a matter of time before we see city after city become overtaken.  Then you will see a civil war. I for one hope we can avoid that.
Block the on ramps, off ramps, re-route rail traffic. Isolate them, if that's what they want. No fuel, no power, no water, no internet, no cell phones. These United States are under no obligation to support any hostile foreign power in any way.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 11, 2020, 09:39:31 pm
Washington is very strong Dem state, but almost 40% of the electorate voted for Trump in 2016.
Do they deserve to be treated like trash by the Dems?
Well, while we are playing "city states" how about Conservatives designate some zone of their own.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: berdie on June 11, 2020, 10:09:47 pm
Well, while we are playing "city states" how about Conservatives designate some zone of their own.


I like that idea....A LOT!!
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 11, 2020, 10:14:40 pm
I guess they don't have any idea how much farm it takes to feed people.
Maybe they should call Mike Bloomberg. He can teach them how in five minutes...

 :silly:
Not a problem, they'll just call Mommy when their little tummies start growling too much. She'll be there in her Volvo with vegan faux chicken nuggets in no time.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 11, 2020, 10:16:18 pm

I like that idea....A LOT!!

If conservatives tried that we'd be carpet bombed!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 11, 2020, 10:23:06 pm
Should a disaster erupt, and Trump doesn't step in, my concern is ...

Two big ifs at @libertybele   Please start with this:  What is an example of a disaster erupting that would give the President the legal and moral authority to step over the state's governor and bring in NG or Army forces?

I'm truly interested.  I'm having trouble naming one short of the warlords taking US law into their own hands and meting out "justice" within those six blocks; or the wokes physically harming others outside their club.




Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: EdinVA on June 11, 2020, 10:36:16 pm
Yes, ideally it should be left up to the governor and the mayor.  The mayor obviously isn't protecting the citizens and the governor is denying what is happening; that is also a recipe for a disaster.  Should a disaster erupt, and Trump doesn't step in, my concern is Antifa and thugs will  converge on the next city and then the next, assuming that they will continue to get away with controlling areaswherever they please which will be an even greater disaster and even harder to push back.  Things need to be nipped in the bud now.

IMHO Trump has already commented on what he will do if necessary, unfortunately he's made the same threat a couple of times and hasn't done anything, that has only sent a signal to them that they can continue doing what they are doing.  There isn't any incentive for them to stop because no one is stopping them.
That's the ole domino theory, very popular during the '60's and 70's to get and keep us neck deep into the war, police action, in Vietnam, never panned out, 58,000 lives later.
We are talking a few dozen thugs, not thousands of armed/trained troops.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 11, 2020, 10:40:54 pm
Two big ifs at @libertybele   Please start with this:  What is an example of a disaster erupting that would give the President the legal and moral authority to step over the state's governor and bring in NG or Army forces?

I'm truly interested.  I'm having trouble naming one short of the warlords taking US law into their own hands and meting out "justice" within those six blocks; or the wokes physically harming others outside their club.

Gee, I don't know, charging people for protection and when they refuse to pay, stealing their businesses and/or harming the business owner(s).  Once they seize a couple of businesses, do you really think they will stop and won't hesitate to expand their borders?  Trump needs to step in IF the governor and mayor continue to do nothing and this escalates.  Trump shouldn't make idle threats; that only shows weakness on his part and they will quickly learn he doesn't do what he means.  That in itself is problematic.

Thinking that they won't expand into other cities I think is being overly optimistic. Once they realize that they have no resistance, they will continue to "occupy" as many cities as they can.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 11, 2020, 10:49:09 pm
That's the ole domino theory, very popular during the '60's and 70's to get and keep us neck deep into the war, police action, in Vietnam, never panned out, 58,000 lives later.
We are talking a few dozen thugs, not thousands of armed/trained troops.

Again, and this is just my opinion, I don't see this limited to a few dozen thugs, and could possibly be hundreds if not thousands. Does anyone really know?  I'm thinking back to when we saw caravans of migrants crossing over our borders; thousands showed up from over 50 different countries. It was found that they were paid and encouraged to swarm our borders; funded by Soros.  This could easily escalate into something similar.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 11, 2020, 11:25:07 pm
Sounds like people are having their civil rights violated.  Federal law.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 11, 2020, 11:33:54 pm
Gee, I don't know, charging people for protection and when they refuse to pay, stealing their businesses and/or harming the business owner(s). 

Still a state issue, IMHO @libertybele   Federal intervention would still need an invitation.

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Once they seize a couple of businesses, do you really think they will stop and won't hesitate to expand their borders?  Trump needs to step in IF the governor and mayor continue to do nothing and this escalates

I don't know what's going to goad them into expanding their "borders".  (Love the wall, BTW  happy77)   

If they seize local businesses it's a state issue.  But if they seize satellite offices of US businesses and the HQ across state lines object, well.... we're getting closer to a federal intervention.  But still Washington state government must be given the right of first response.   Under these circumstances feds could move if the state declines to end it.

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Thinking that they won't expand into other cities I think is being overly optimistic.

And reacting before they do is not helpful, either.  It could encourage the very response we're trying to prevent.

This needs more time to "ripen".   :laugh:  Feds won't get a second chance at a first response.  They must get the reason for action and the action itself right the first time.





Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 11, 2020, 11:56:05 pm
Still a state issue, IMHO @libertybele   Federal intervention would still need an invitation.

I don't know what's going to goad them into expanding their "borders".  (Love the wall, BTW  happy77)   

If they seize local businesses it's a state issue.  But if they seize satellite offices of US businesses and the HQ across state lines object, well.... we're getting closer to a federal intervention.  But still Washington state government must be given the right of first response.   Under these circumstances feds could move if the state declines to end it.

And reacting before they do is not helpful, either.  It could encourage the very response we're trying to prevent.

This needs more time to "ripen".   :laugh:  Feds won't get a second chance at a first response.  They must get the reason for action and the action itself right the first time.

I don't know why the cops left in the first place.  Were they run off or did they walk out?  Either way, then the mayor should have called in the National Guard to secure the area' he failed to do so.  Then I'd think it would be up to the governor.  The news is reporting that he is in denial.  So, I still think it's up to the feds to act.  What exactly are the feds waiting for?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: EdinVA on June 12, 2020, 12:02:04 am
I don't know why the cops left in the first place.  Were they run off or did they walk out?  Either way, then the mayor should have called in the National Guard to secure the area' he failed to do so.  Then I'd think it would be up to the governor.  The news is reporting that he is in denial.  So, I still think it's up to the feds to act.  What exactly are the feds waiting for?
Just happened to be reading this....
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Seattle police chief: 'Leaving the precinct was not my decision'
“The decision to board up the precinct, our precinct, our home, the first precinct I worked in, was something I had been holding off,” Best said. “You should know, leaving the precinct was not my decision. “
The immediate area had seen more than a week of protests, with some of them growing violent. A man allegedly drove into a crowd of protesters Sunday night and shot someone just a block away from the building.
“You fought for days to protect it,” Best continued in her remarks. “I asked you to stand on that line, day in and day out – to be pelted with projectiles, to be screamed at, threatened and in some cases hurt.”
SEATTLE LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERTS URGE POLICE TO TAKE BACK 'CHAZ' BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE (https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-law-enforcement-experts-urges-police-to-take-back-chaz-before-its-too-late)
Protesters allegedly also threw glass bottles, rocks and “explosives” at police there on Saturday. Police said they used blast balls and pepper spray to try and break up the crowds. The city also made the decision to ban its police force from using tear gas to quell the unrest.
“To have a change of course, nearly two weeks in,” Best said, shaking her head. “It seems like an insult to you and our community.”
She blamed “the city” for giving in to “severe public pressure” for the decision to pull out of the East Precinct building.https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-police-chief-leaving-precinct (https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-police-chief-leaving-precinct)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 12, 2020, 12:08:13 am
If conservatives tried that we'd be carpet bombed!!!!!!!
By who?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 12, 2020, 12:11:19 am
Still a state issue, IMHO @libertybele   Federal intervention would still need an invitation.

I don't know what's going to goad them into expanding their "borders".  (Love the wall, BTW  happy77)   

If they seize local businesses it's a state issue.  But if they seize satellite offices of US businesses and the HQ across state lines object, well.... we're getting closer to a federal intervention.  But still Washington state government must be given the right of first response.   Under these circumstances feds could move if the state declines to end it.

And reacting before they do is not helpful, either.  It could encourage the very response we're trying to prevent.

This needs more time to "ripen".   :laugh:  Feds won't get a second chance at a first response.  They must get the reason for action and the action itself right the first time.
My two bits is that Trump has no choice but to step in if non-Americans are intimidated.

That would make it a federal matter in a hurry if a country demanded the protection of its citizens legally on US soil.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 12, 2020, 12:11:27 am
This needs more time to "ripen".

I agree with this, in that it's not ripe.  Gotta let the State government screw it up good first.  I have confidence in Inslee...he'll screw it up in grand style.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 12, 2020, 12:15:24 am
OK, another question.  I also don't know how those generals become members of the Pentagon?  Who and how are they placed?

@libertybele

The Pentagon/Pentagram is an office building that happens to be owned and populated by the US Military,not a military organization.

There are people stationed there that rank from Private to General. From what I have been told,almost everybody there spends their work day shuffling papers or having hissy-fits.

It's like the "Vatican of the Army".
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: 240B on June 12, 2020, 12:24:34 am
Don't understand all the fuss. In this case I am fully with Antifa.
Would be happy to all of Seattle on fire. Burn it down, baby! Let it burn!
And if it spreads to L.A., New York, Chicago, Portland, all the better.
Burn it down! Burn it all down!

Yea but, the second Trump gets involved in any way whatsoever, he is taking a giant anvil off of Inslee's neck and wrapping it around his own. Trump would have to be an imbecile to go anywhere near this fiasco created and owned by radical Liberals to try to "fix it" for them. They own it. Let them deal with it.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 12, 2020, 12:26:20 am
Just happened to be reading this....

Thank you for the info.  So, if I am understanding correctly, the police hands were tied and they were not allowed to defend themselves by any means necessary -- that was wrong.  The "city" would be the office of the mayor who decided to prohibit the police from using tear gas, etc.  City council?? 

If that's the case, again, the mayor is NOT protecting the citizens and the governor isn't stepping in.  That leaves the Feds.  Or am I missing something here?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 12, 2020, 12:26:29 am
By who?

al•le•go•ry ăl′ĭ-gôr″ē►
n.   The representation of abstract ideas or principles by characters, figures, or events in narrative, dramatic, or pictorial form.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: EdinVA on June 12, 2020, 12:27:48 am
OK, another question.  I also don't know how those generals become members of the Pentagon?  Who and how are they placed?
@libertybele
Each branch of the service has a Chief of Staff appointed by the President, i.e. Chief of Staff of the Air Force, and all the Chiefs together make up the Joint Chiefs of Staff and one General is the Chairman and the JCS is considered the "brains" of the military and are housed in the Pentagon.  And of course any general worth his salt has an extensive entourage to help him/her struggle thru their daily duties.  The Secretary of Defense along with all of the Secretary of each military branch are housed in the Pentagon near the JCS so they can consult with their military counterparts, which entitles each secretary to have their own entourage.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 12, 2020, 12:29:41 am
@libertybele

The Pentagon/Pentagram is an office building that happens to be owned and populated by the US Military,not a military organization.

There are people stationed there that rank from Private to General. From what I have been told,almost everybody there spends their work day shuffling papers or having hissy-fits.

It's like the "Vatican of the Army".

Ok.  But who decides who becomes a member of the Pentagon?   Just based on rank??  Sorry ... I'm still not fully understanding.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: EdinVA on June 12, 2020, 12:31:46 am
Thank you for the info.  So, if I am understanding correctly, the police hands were tied and they were not allowed to defend themselves by any means necessary -- that was wrong.  The "city" would be the office of the mayor who decided to prohibit the police from using tear gas, etc.  City council?? 

If that's the case, again, the mayor is NOT protecting the citizens and the governor isn't stepping in.  That leaves the Feds.  Or am I missing something here?
@libertybele
Purely speculation on my part....
If Trump goes in his he will be damaged no matter the outcome.  If someone dies, he gets blamed, if everything works out, he will be blamed for getting in the way and violating state sovereignty... If is a lose lose proposition for Trump UNLESS Washington state demands his help, which is what I think he is waiting for.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 12, 2020, 12:32:47 am


Yea but, the second Trump gets involved in any way whatsoever, he is taking a giant anvil off of Inslee's neck and wrapping it around his own. Trump would have to be an imbecile to go anywhere near this fiasco created and owned by radical Liberals to try to "fix it" for them. They own it. Let them deal with it.
He has no choice but to intervene if a country asked the USA to protect its citizens legally on US soil.  That is a federal matter totally.

And that may be the mechanism he uses to do it.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: 240B on June 12, 2020, 12:50:16 am
He has no choice but to intervene if a country asked the USA to protect its citizens legally on US soil.  That is a federal matter totally.

And that may be the mechanism he uses to do it.
There is always a choice. There is no such thing as 'Law' in Washington D.C.
That has been proven a thousand times over.
If a country has a problem with the United States, then sue us in the World Court.
End of subject.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 12, 2020, 12:54:19 am
Don't understand all the fuss. In this case I am fully with Antifa.
Would be happy to all of Seattle on fire. Burn it down, baby! Let it burn!
And if it spreads to L.A., New York, Chicago, Portland, all the better.
Burn it down! Burn it all down!

Yea but, the second Trump gets involved in any way whatsoever, he is taking a giant anvil off of Inslee's neck and wrapping it around his own. Trump would have to be an imbecile to go anywhere near this fiasco created and owned by radical Liberals to try to "fix it" for them. They own it. Let them deal with it.

Well, I'm not a fan of the major liberal cesspools in this country either, but essentially allowing Antifa to run these cesspools isn't going to be any better.  It potentially would allow for an city that manages to place liberal leadership in charge to be taken over by thugs. The rule of law potentially then becomes obsolete city by city.  It then becomes rule of law by mob rule. I'm not ok with that. That opens the door for any subversive group to take over unless the message is sent now, that, this isn't the way things work.  We have laws that need to be adhered to and those that break the law need to be charged for their crimes.  That isn't what's happening right now and that's where the problem lies.

The rule of law isn't being adhered to in some cases at the federal level, the state level and the city level.  Our AG hasn't done a darn thing at the federal level and that complacency and incompetency is trickling down throughout the country; slowly, but it's happening.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Victoria33 on June 12, 2020, 01:12:57 am
@Cyber Liberty

The Mayor of Seattle says this evening, this area is four blocks long.  She said the cops left that precinct cop building in order to lower the possibility of serious violence happening.

Their Police chief was in that area today, talking/accessing the situation.  The Mayor is low key on this as though it is not a big deal.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: 240B on June 12, 2020, 01:21:50 am
These juvenile kids are picking their own home bases to burn down first. Because they are children and they are afraid. The same as a young kid yelling at his mother calling her a whore and a bitch because he knows that she will never hurt him. And yet on the street he is shy and silent.

They are burning down their own home base because they feel comfortable there. And who am I to argue with this plan. The gaping hole in their strategy is in thinking that anyone would care. I don't care what the Liberal kids do at home. Burn it all down.

It is only when they venture out of their cocooned bases that they face any real blowback. And when someone challenges them, real people not police, they back down and run away. Because they know that we are not playing patty-cake with them like the Feds and the Cops do. They know we mean to hurt them. And they are correct.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Idiot on June 12, 2020, 01:24:36 am
Then lay siege. Cut off utilities and shut down the cell phone towers.  Nothing goes in or out, and arrest anybody trying to leave. If the city refuses, then move the blockade out to the city limits.
Shut down cell towers in Seattle over a 6 block area?  Not going to happen.  Seattle is high tech central....  I'd guess Seattle's citizens are quite amused with this. 
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: DCPatriot on June 12, 2020, 01:32:11 am
@Cyber Liberty

The Mayor of Seattle says this evening, this area is four blocks long.  She said the cops left that precinct cop building in order to lower the possibility of serious violence happening.

Their Police chief was in that area today, talking/accessing the situation.  The Mayor is low key on this as though it is not a big deal.

Does anyone recall the more than 1800 felonious inmates being released from jails in California/Oregon during the Obama administration...with absolutely no tracking or follow-up?

These people may have been training in groups all these years.

Add the Fast n' Furious scandal to the mix with automatic weaponry and here you have it.

Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 12, 2020, 01:41:09 am
Does anyone recall the more than 1800 felonious inmates being released from jails in California/Oregon during the Obama administration...with absolutely no tracking or follow-up?

These people may have been training in groups all these years.


Add the Fast n' Furious scandal to the mix with automatic weaponry and here you have it.

Definitely very likely.  Part of Bammy's "rumored" silent army.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 12, 2020, 01:48:32 am
Shut down cell towers in Seattle over a 6 block area?  Not going to happen.  Seattle is high tech central....  I'd guess Seattle's citizens are quite amused with this.

If they leave the cells working, the mob can get outside help.  Shutting them down is imperative, screw the little toy monsters.  Take their phones away.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Fishrrman on June 12, 2020, 01:57:43 am
I imagine that Portland is nearly as infiltrated with antifa as is Seattle, if not more so.

How much longer until the antifa/commies/blm decide it's time to bring Portland to the "leaving the USA" party as well...?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 12, 2020, 02:05:17 am
I imagine that Portland is nearly as infiltrated with antifa as is Seattle, if not more so.

How much longer until the antifa/commies/blm decide it's time to bring Portland to the "leaving the USA" party as well...?

Exactly.  It won't just be Portland, they will surely do the same in other cities as well.  That's why I still think Trump needs to act; this cannot become something that is just accepted.  We are the U.S.A., we are a country of laws and rules; we can't allow this country to be run by thugs or any other group that decides they want power and to destroy this Republic.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: corbe on June 12, 2020, 02:08:08 am
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Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: 240B on June 12, 2020, 02:14:18 am
I imagine that Portland is nearly as infiltrated with antifa as is Seattle, if not more so.

How much longer until the antifa/commies/blm decide it's time to bring Portland to the "leaving the USA" party as well...?
I hope so. Nothing would make me happier than to see Portland go up in flames.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Hoodat on June 12, 2020, 02:28:41 am
Exactly.  It won't just be Portland, they will surely do the same in other cities as well.

Their German precursors, the National Socialists, called it 'Lebensraum'.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 12, 2020, 03:13:57 am
Gee, I don't know, charging people for protection and when they refuse to pay, stealing their businesses and/or harming the business owner(s).  Once they seize a couple of businesses, do you really think they will stop and won't hesitate to expand their borders?  Trump needs to step in IF the governor and mayor continue to do nothing and this escalates.  Trump shouldn't make idle threats; that only shows weakness on his part and they will quickly learn he doesn't do what he means.  That in itself is problematic.

Thinking that they won't expand into other cities I think is being overly optimistic. Once they realize that they have no resistance, they will continue to "occupy" as many cities as they can.
Some citizens need to seek a Writ of Mandamus to push the Governor to uphold the Law (mayor, too). Defy that, Contempt of Court, work your way down the food chain from the top, and put them all in jail.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 12, 2020, 03:15:50 am
Still a state issue, IMHO @libertybele   Federal intervention would still need an invitation.

I don't know what's going to goad them into expanding their "borders".  (Love the wall, BTW  happy77)   

If they seize local businesses it's a state issue.  But if they seize satellite offices of US businesses and the HQ across state lines object, well.... we're getting closer to a federal intervention.  But still Washington state government must be given the right of first response.   Under these circumstances feds could move if the state declines to end it.

And reacting before they do is not helpful, either.  It could encourage the very response we're trying to prevent.

This needs more time to "ripen".   :laugh:  Feds won't get a second chance at a first response.  They must get the reason for action and the action itself right the first time.
Feds could get involved. Invoke RICO.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: EdinVA on June 12, 2020, 03:15:52 am
Some citizens need to seek a Writ of Mandamus to push the Governor to uphold the Law (mayor, too). Defy that, Contempt of Court, work your way down the food chain from the top, and put them all in jail.

Writ of Mandamus?  Is that anything like a baseball bat?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 12, 2020, 03:17:33 am
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Uh Oh. Someone got a 'B' in Algebra.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 12, 2020, 03:36:41 am
Feds could get involved. Invoke RICO.
I've had the same thought. We don't hear as much about RICO as we used to.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 12, 2020, 03:38:11 am
Don't understand all the fuss. In this case I am fully with Antifa.
Would be happy to all of Seattle on fire. Burn it down, baby! Let it burn!
And if it spreads to L.A., New York, Chicago, Portland, all the better.
Burn it down! Burn it all down!

Yea but, the second Trump gets involved in any way whatsoever, he is taking a giant anvil off of Inslee's neck and wrapping it around his own. Trump would have to be an imbecile to go anywhere near this fiasco created and owned by radical Liberals to try to "fix it" for them.B They own it. Let them deal with it.

@240B

I couldn't agree more/

LET'S RUMBLE!
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 12, 2020, 03:40:12 am
I've had the same thought. We don't hear as much about RICO as we used to.
Today's mafioso is better connected.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 12, 2020, 04:03:40 am
It grows ever evident that the people elected to run these jurisdictions cannot. They are ceding real estate and power to an unelected authority, in effect, allowing the powers of government duly ceded by the people to elected officials, to be carried out within the constraints of the law, to be usurped by groups who have refused to work within the constraints of agreed upon political convention.

As all governments go, which derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, these have none. At any time, the citizenry would be justified in ousting this invading force, by whatever means necessary. As for those who have allowed this, yes, they too should be removed from office by whatever means are available or necessary.

@Smokin Joe

I am beginning to suspect that the Dims have realized their grip on power is ending not likely to return in this lifetime,so they are now purposely pushing for open armed rebellion and a civil war.

They really have nothing to lose because none of the ones alive today will ever live long enough to see their lusted after communist utopia.

I,for one do NOT want to see this happen,although I do want to see at least some of the Dim leadership swinging from a gallows.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 12, 2020, 04:50:12 am
All I can say is pray.  Things are moving very quickly. 
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: aligncare on June 12, 2020, 12:13:34 pm
Tucker: The world welcomes its newest country

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KafIdOk8bLs#)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 12, 2020, 01:01:37 pm
Tucker: The world welcomes its newest country
Quick! Give them a seat on the U.N. Security Council.  *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: EdinVA on June 12, 2020, 01:10:31 pm
So, what is the difference between "Chaz" and a state succeeding from the Union in 1860? 

The North invaded the south to force them to reunify...

Asking for a friend... lol
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 12, 2020, 01:10:49 pm
Looks like the police chief is chafing at the restrictions put on her by the mayor.
Quote
Andy Ngô  @MrAndyNgo
Seattle Police Chief: "Rapes, robberies and all sorts of violent acts have been occurring in the area and we're not able to get to [them]." #capitolhillautonomouszone #antifa #BlackLivesMatter

12:03 AM · Jun 12, 2020
Video at https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1271291958296604675

From NY Post:
Quote
Seattle’s police chief told her department Thursday it was “not my decision” to abandon a precinct in an area of the city taken over by protesters — and blasted city officials for giving in to the demonstrators.

In a video address published on the department’s YouTube page, Chief Carmen Best said the city “relented to severe public pressure.” ...
More, and video, at NY Post (https://nypost.com/2020/06/11/seattle-police-chief-leaving-the-precinct-was-not-my-decision/)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 12, 2020, 01:12:14 pm
Nauseating morning.....  MSM giving this enemy army cover under the guise of being "peaceful demostrators"

The MSM is as much of an enemy as the BLM/Antifa rioters themselves. 
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 12, 2020, 01:13:27 pm
CHAZ sympathizers plan to seize a section of Nashville, TN.
Quote
Andy Ngô  @MrAndyNgo
There is an event tomorrow in Nashville, Tenn. inspired by the Seattle "autonomous zone."
Organizers are calling for people to come "reclaim" the Legislative Plaza.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaSH0fPUEAAa0oe?format=jpg&name=small)
11:57 PM · Jun 11, 2020
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 12, 2020, 01:16:54 pm
So, what is the difference between "Chaz" and a state succeeding from the Union in 1860? 

The North invaded the south to force them to reunify...

Asking for a friend... lol

Insurrective South were rebels, and considerd an enemy on the get go.

Chaz Antifa-ites are peaceful demonstrators exercising their 1st Amendment rights (/s)

Go in with guns blazing, and on day 2, you will have MSM posting  each of the casaulaties with their 4th grade and prom pictures, all smiling. They'll make Chaz Martyrville within a week.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 12, 2020, 02:38:23 pm
CHAZ Shouts Down Black Women Frustrated They Hijacked Black Lives Matter Movement

Protesters from the “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone” on Thursday shouted down a group of black women who accused them of hijacking the Black Lives Matter.

Members of the African American Community Advisory Council, which works with the Seattle Police department to improve policing in the city, spoke out in the Chaz Zone on Thursday, according to a report from Komo News.

“The thing is, you have hijacked this!” one woman said. “You have taken the meaning away!”

Other videos of what appeared to be the same conversation were posted on social media.

more w/video
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/12/chaz-shouts-down-black-women-frustrated-they-highjacked-black-lives-matter-movement/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/12/chaz-shouts-down-black-women-frustrated-they-highjacked-black-lives-matter-movement/)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 12, 2020, 04:42:40 pm
So, what is the difference between "Chaz" and a state succeeding from the Union in 1860? 

The North invaded the south to force them to reunify...

Asking for a friend... lol

@EdinVA

Easy answer. The Communist retards in Chas have no property that New York bankers want to steal and sell.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: EdinVA on June 12, 2020, 04:59:06 pm
@EdinVA

Easy answer. The Communist retards in Chas have no property that New York bankers want to steal and sell.
:yowsa:
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: goatprairie on June 12, 2020, 05:14:20 pm
CHAZ Shouts Down Black Women Frustrated They Hijacked Black Lives Matter Movement

Protesters from the “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone” on Thursday shouted down a group of black women who accused them of hijacking the Black Lives Matter.

Members of the African American Community Advisory Council, which works with the Seattle Police department to improve policing in the city, spoke out in the Chaz Zone on Thursday, according to a report from Komo News.

“The thing is, you have hijacked this!” one woman said. “You have taken the meaning away!”

Other videos of what appeared to be the same conversation were posted on social media.

more w/video
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/12/chaz-shouts-down-black-women-frustrated-they-highjacked-black-lives-matter-movement/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/12/chaz-shouts-down-black-women-frustrated-they-highjacked-black-lives-matter-movement/)
Morons arguing with morons.   :pop41:
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 12, 2020, 05:34:23 pm
CHAZ Neighbors Hire Private Security Forces
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/06/12/chaz-neighbors-hire-private-security-forces/ (https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/06/12/chaz-neighbors-hire-private-security-forces/)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 12, 2020, 05:40:22 pm
Morons arguing with morons.   :pop41:
Circular firing squad. Works for me.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 12, 2020, 05:57:16 pm
Morons arguing with morons.   :pop41:

@goatprairie

Those women really and truly thought the left gave a damn about what they "think".

That's cute. Just when you think there is no innocence left in politics,they step up to the plate.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 12, 2020, 06:18:46 pm
Quote
CHAZUpdates
@chaz_updates


CHAZ has set up a supplies poster, apperently it's raining in Seattle right now so this is probably as of just a couple of hours ago

Surprisingly they want Gatorade more than water

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaUgwv8WAAIjq73?format=jpg&name=900x900)


11:05 AM · Jun 12, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/chaz_updates/status/1271458618425171968

 :laughingdog:
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 12, 2020, 06:21:30 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaRc1b_U4AAGHBc?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 12, 2020, 06:23:38 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaRqCGiVAAEjVQb?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: truth_seeker on June 12, 2020, 07:33:21 pm
CHAZ Shouts Down Black Women Frustrated They Hijacked Black Lives Matter Movement

Protesters from the “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone” on Thursday shouted down a group of black women who accused them of hijacking the Black Lives Matter.


In my community, last weekend, intelligence suspected that ntifa was coming, to hijack scheduled "lives matter" demonstrations. Locals jined with BLM for peaceful demonstrations.

It worked. Antifa must have learned that they were going to meet heavy sesistence.

and it appears they avoided the place.

the community was spared damage and violence because some people negotiated and arranged how to do peacefuldemonstrations.

Afterwards, some locals said it could be a national model.

Local business and civic leaders,

Local residents

BLM

Law enforcement.

NOT Antifa or others intending damage or violence
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: aligncare on June 12, 2020, 07:35:18 pm
Funny stuff, RIV.

Funny as in sad and pathetic and Kafkaesque-like.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: LadyLiberty on June 12, 2020, 08:13:03 pm
Look at what was written on the sign they placed in front of the east precinct, and notice what is being said on the loud speaker in the background:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1271307427808346112 (https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1271307427808346112)

Irony at its best, you can't make this stuff up!
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 12, 2020, 08:44:39 pm
@EdinVA

Easy answer. The Communist retards in Chas have no property that New York bankers want to steal and sell.
888high58888 :yowsa: THIS!^^^^
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 12, 2020, 10:21:39 pm
The Seattle Times repeats Antifa talking points about armed occupation of city
Libby Emmons and Barrett Wilson
12th June 2020
Quote
On Thursday, The Seattle Times published a short article as part of its ongoing coverage of the protest-turned-occupation in Seattle this week, that impugned original reporting by that The Post Millennial on the ground.

The Seattle Times tries to cast doubt on claims reported by The Post Millennial that business owners in the occupied zone, known now as the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, were being extorted for protection money.

The Seattle Times is echoing Antifa propaganda.

Antifa website It's Going Down was thrilled to see it.  ...

The paper's report states that the Seattle Police Department walked back a "report that Capitol Hill protestors extorted businesses." The article states that while the police had reported that extortions were happening, authorities have now changed their message. Both Seattle Chief of Police Carmen Best and the Assistant Chief of Police Deanna Nollette made note of these extortion reports, but by the afternoon of Thursday, June 11, The Seattle Times says that those statements had been retracted. ...
Post Millennial (https://thepostmillennial.com/seattle-times-antifa-armed-occupation)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 13, 2020, 01:22:52 pm
Coming to a town near you!!
The junior fascists are trying to establish "autonomous zones" in Chicago, Asheville and other cities.
Tennessee Gov. Lee says Nashville autonomous zone won't ‘be tolerated’ (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tennessee-gov-lee-nashville-autonomous-zone)

Andy Ngô  @MrAndyNgo·
9h
"Autonomous zone" being set up in Asheville, N.C.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaXVjkKU8AA5Y6M?format=jpg&name=small)

Andy Ngô  @MrAndyNgo·
5h
Protesters inside and around a new “autonomous zone” at the University of Chicago
Police Department are urinating and defecating inside a tent in the room.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaYMZx4UcAEsd3p?format=jpg&name=360x360)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 13, 2020, 01:44:13 pm
Protesters negotiate with local officials over leaving Seattle 'autonomous zone'
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/502580-protesters-negotiate-with-local-officials-over-leaving-seattle
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 13, 2020, 01:48:55 pm
Protesters negotiate with local officials over leaving Seattle 'autonomous zone'
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/502580-protesters-negotiate-with-local-officials-over-leaving-seattle

OMG,

.... and looking to meet demands? 

Yeah, this is gong to prevent future SPAZ (Special Peeps Automonous Zones) incursions  huh?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 13, 2020, 01:49:42 pm
Seattle police plan to retake CHAZ precinct held hostage
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/seattle-police-plan-to-retake-chaz-precinct-held-hostage (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/seattle-police-plan-to-retake-chaz-precinct-held-hostage)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: skeeter on June 13, 2020, 01:53:17 pm
OMG,

.... and looking to meet demands? 

Yeah, this is gong to prevent future SPAZ (Special Peeps Automonous Zones) incursions  huh?

They hope not - these mayors and 'protestors' are on the same page.

Stopping them'll be up to the voters, as it should be.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 13, 2020, 01:57:12 pm
They hope not - these mayors and 'protestors' are on the same page.

Stopping them'll be up to the voters, as it should be.

You gotta lot of faith in brain dead leftist in their choices.....
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 13, 2020, 02:03:27 pm
Oh Dear – Seattle Officials Planning to Take Back CHAZ Occupied Zone – Mayor Jenny Now Worried About Safety…
Posted on June 12, 2020   by sundance

What a difference 24 hours can make. – A report from KOMO News tonight, highlights Seattle officials planning to take back the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, or nation of CHAZ, from the occupying anarchists and Antifa elements.

However, it’s more than a little funny to see Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan saying her administration is determining “when it would be safe for the Seattle Police to move in there” considering she was just claiming last night on CNN the occupation was merely a small group of festive citizens having “a block party”.

According to the report police Chief Carmen Best and her top commanders surveyed the inside of the East Precinct building, she and Mayor Jenny Durkan discussed how and when the department could reassert control of the building but they didn’t give a timeline.

more
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/06/12/oh-dear-seattle-officials-planning-to-take-back-chaz-occupied-zone-mayor-jenny-now-worried-about-safety/
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 13, 2020, 02:07:57 pm
However, it’s more than a little funny to see Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan saying her administration is determining “when it would be safe for the Seattle Police to move in there” considering she was just claiming last night on CNN the occupation was merely a small group of festive citizens having “a block party”.



Waiting for a sequel where "Block Party" meets "Apocalypse Now".  (Too early for the Duval meme?)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 13, 2020, 02:08:54 pm
I say get out the fire hoses... :whistle:
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 13, 2020, 02:10:28 pm
I say get out the fire hoses... :whistle:

I agree ... but the state and city governments support the anarchists.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 13, 2020, 02:14:15 pm

Quote
Coming to a town near you!!

@mountaineer

COOL! I don't really feel up to  traveling anymore.

BRING IT,BITCHES!

My ONLY advise to others is to not get caught up in the moment and lose focus on who and what is important.

Try to ignore the cretins in the front lines. Focus on the people you see moving around in the background,and pay attention to who they are talking to as they come and go.

Oh,and buy rope while it is still available.


Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: skeeter on June 13, 2020, 02:14:59 pm
Oh Dear – Seattle Officials Planning to Take Back CHAZ Occupied Zone – Mayor Jenny Now Worried About Safety…
Posted on June 12, 2020   by sundance

What a difference 24 hours can make. – A report from KOMO News tonight, highlights Seattle officials planning to take back the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, or nation of CHAZ, from the occupying anarchists and Antifa elements.

However, it’s more than a little funny to see Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan saying her administration is determining “when it would be safe for the Seattle Police to move in there” considering she was just claiming last night on CNN the occupation was merely a small group of festive citizens having “a block party”.

According to the report police Chief Carmen Best and her top commanders surveyed the inside of the East Precinct building, she and Mayor Jenny Durkan discussed how and when the department could reassert control of the building but they didn’t give a timeline.

more
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/06/12/oh-dear-seattle-officials-planning-to-take-back-chaz-occupied-zone-mayor-jenny-now-worried-about-safety/
It will be interesting to see how Jennie and Carmen handle the assault on the block party to retake the East Precinct.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 13, 2020, 02:15:54 pm
I agree ... but the state and city governments support the anarchists.

(kinda). Response and results would be 100% different if it was Obama trying for re-election.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 13, 2020, 02:17:09 pm
I agree ... but the state and city governments support the anarchists.

@Right_in_Virginia @mystery-ak

Well,in all fairness to Myst,she didn't say who to point them at.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 13, 2020, 02:18:48 pm
Last night's dodgeball at SPAZ was marred by squabbles and scuffles. Story at Twitchy (https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/06/13/is-anyone-in-charge-chaz-overnight-update-street-sign-argument-breaks-out-dodgeball-game-marred-by-scuffle/), with video.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: XenaLee on June 13, 2020, 02:27:08 pm
Oh Dear – Seattle Officials Planning to Take Back CHAZ Occupied Zone – Mayor Jenny Now Worried About Safety…
Posted on June 12, 2020   by sundance

What a difference 24 hours can make. – A report from KOMO News tonight, highlights Seattle officials planning to take back the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, or nation of CHAZ, from the occupying anarchists and Antifa elements.

However, it’s more than a little funny to see Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan saying her administration is determining “when it would be safe for the Seattle Police to move in there” considering she was just claiming last night on CNN the occupation was merely a small group of festive citizens having “a block party”.

According to the report police Chief Carmen Best and her top commanders surveyed the inside of the East Precinct building, she and Mayor Jenny Durkan discussed how and when the department could reassert control of the building but they didn’t give a timeline.

more
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/06/12/oh-dear-seattle-officials-planning-to-take-back-chaz-occupied-zone-mayor-jenny-now-worried-about-safety/

What?   Did Trump call her and threaten to cut off federal $$$ if she didn't act like a leader?   It would have cost the taxpayers less $$$ if she/they had kept the problem from occurring in the first damned place.  But that would have been too logical a conclusion for a leftist to make (dreaming).
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 13, 2020, 02:30:11 pm
Last night's dodgeball at SPAZ was marred by squabbles and scuffles. Story at Twitchy (https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/06/13/is-anyone-in-charge-chaz-overnight-update-street-sign-argument-breaks-out-dodgeball-game-marred-by-scuffle/), with video.

"Quick!  Somebody call a cop!  Oh...wait...."
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 13, 2020, 02:30:19 pm
@Right_in_Virginia @mystery-ak

Well,in all fairness to Myst,she didn't say who to point them at.

 88devil
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 13, 2020, 02:34:13 pm
What?   Did Trump call her and threaten to cut off federal $$$ if she didn't act like a leader?   It would have cost the taxpayers less $$$ if she/they had kept the problem from occurring in the first damned place.  But that would have been too logical a conclusion for a leftist to make (dreaming).

Maybe the Mayor gave up hoping Trump would send in troops to bust heads so she and the rest of the Rats can blame Trump for being a war monger?  He's not going to send in troops if the Governor and Mayor are in high dudgeon against it.  It's beyond "bad optics," it's politically stupid.  As a military person would say, it would be worse than a disaster, it would be a blunder.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 13, 2020, 02:35:15 pm
(kinda). Response and results would be 100% different if it was Obama trying for re-election.

Last night while on CNN the mayor was asked how long she thought this would last.  She answered:  "this could be a summer of love".

 ***suicide***
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 13, 2020, 02:38:26 pm
Maybe the Mayor gave up hoping Trump would send in troops to bust heads so she and the rest of the Rats can blame Trump for being a war monger?  ...

Or she's aware of how Tennessee and North Carolina are handling this ....  wink777
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: XenaLee on June 13, 2020, 02:38:56 pm
Maybe the Mayor gave up hoping Trump would send in troops to bust heads so she and the rest of the Rats can blame Trump for being a war monger?  He's not going to send in troops if the Governor and Mayor are in high dudgeon against it.  It's beyond "bad optics," it's politically stupid.  As a military person would say, it would be worse than a disaster, it would be a blunder.

Yeah, the setup/trap didn't work.   Score one more for the Roadrunner....lol.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: aligncare on June 13, 2020, 03:07:23 pm
I say get out the fire hoses... :whistle:

They would be doing them a favor. Some haven’t bathed in months.  happy77
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 13, 2020, 06:06:29 pm
@mountaineer

COOL! I don't really feel up to  traveling anymore.

BRING IT,BITCHES!

My ONLY advise to others is to not get caught up in the moment and lose focus on who and what is important.

Try to ignore the cretins in the front lines. Focus on the people you see moving around in the background,and pay attention to who they are talking to as they come and go.

Oh,and buy rope while it is still available.
This is where observing from an elevated position through good quality optics comes in handy.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 13, 2020, 06:18:47 pm
Somebody should call their moms and tell them their children are misbehaving again.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 13, 2020, 06:20:27 pm
Somebody should call their moms and tell them their children are misbehaving again.
Do you think their moms would actually give a bleep?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 13, 2020, 06:22:33 pm
Do you think their moms would actually give a bleep?
The little darlings probably are calling their mommies and demanding they drive over to CHAZ in their Priuses to deliver more vegan snacks. The organic fake plant-based chicken nuggets, Mommy!
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: libertybele on June 13, 2020, 06:24:56 pm
Do you think their moms would actually give a bleep?

As long as they don't have to deal with their crap anymore, probably not.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 13, 2020, 06:29:42 pm
Do you think their moms would actually give a bleep?

@Smokin Joe

Well,there has to be a few that would be embarrassed at seeing their spawn act that way in pubic.

Others would probably get steamed over being reminded they gave birth to those cretins.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 13, 2020, 06:35:23 pm
@Smokin Joe

Well,there has to be a few that would be embarrassed at seeing their spawn act that way in pubic.

Others would probably get steamed over being reminded they gave birth to those cretins.
Considering Leftists see misbehaviour as a virtue, I doubt the former, but the latter, in some instances of conservative parents' children gone astray, is credible.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Fishrrman on June 13, 2020, 07:12:47 pm
Drudge seems to have relegated the Seattle insurgency to the back burner for now...
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on June 13, 2020, 07:27:57 pm
Drudge seems to have relegated the Seattle insurgency to the back burner for now...

bleep Drudge.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: goatprairie on June 13, 2020, 07:33:05 pm
Maybe the Mayor gave up hoping Trump would send in troops to bust heads so she and the rest of the Rats can blame Trump for being a war monger?  He's not going to send in troops if the Governor and Mayor are in high dudgeon against it.  It's beyond "bad optics," it's politically stupid.  As a military person would say, it would be worse than a disaster, it would be a blunder.
So, basically you believe radical leftists can grab land anywhere they want, and the president shouldn't do anything about it because the mayors and governors don't want to do anything?
Mayors and governors can subvert the rule of law, and the president just has to sit back and do nothing but make idle threats?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 13, 2020, 07:37:53 pm
So, basically you believe radical leftists can grab land anywhere they want, and the president shouldn't do anything about it because the mayors and governors don't want to do anything?
Mayors and governors can subvert the rule of law, and the president just has to sit back and do nothing but make idle threats?

That's not what I said, but if you choose to catch and burn that straw man, be my guest.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mountaineer on June 13, 2020, 07:49:09 pm
Perhaps a better response to another member's post than, "So, basically you believe ..." might be, "I want to understand your position. Are you saying ... ?"  034
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: aligncare on June 13, 2020, 08:11:24 pm
Perhaps a better response to another member's post than, "So, basically you believe ..." might be, "I want to understand your position. Are you saying ... ?"  034

Nah, putting words in other people’s mouth is the coin of the realm on the internet. It’s more fun that way on a slow day. I might have have dabbled in it myself a time or two.  :smokin:
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 13, 2020, 08:25:01 pm
Nah, putting words in other people’s mouth is the coin of the realm on the internet. It’s more fun that way on a slow day. I might have have dabbled in it myself a time or two.  :smokin:

I, too have done my share of that.  Avoiding logical fallacies is sometimes honored in the breach.  :beer:
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 13, 2020, 09:16:50 pm
So, basically you believe radical leftists can grab land anywhere they want, and the president shouldn't do anything about it because the mayors and governors don't want to do anything?
Mayors and governors can subvert the rule of law, and the president just has to sit back and do nothing but make idle threats?

@goatprairie

More important that that is the answer to the question "Do YOU believe we live in a dictatorship where a President can take away state leadership from that states elected representatives at will?

Another question just occurred to me,"Is that the kind of country you WANT to live in?"
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 13, 2020, 09:18:06 pm
Nah, putting words in other people’s mouth is the coin of the realm on the internet. It’s more fun that way on a slow day. I might have have dabbled in it myself a time or two.  :smokin:

@aligncare

I am proud to state that *I* have never stooped that low.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: corbe on June 13, 2020, 09:37:11 pm
   Trump surprised me in this COVID crap by pretty much deferring to the State Governors, 10th Amendment style. But, this is different, IMHO, a sovereign piece of the US has been carved out and is now being played out on the nightly news strictly for Political reasons, by both sides, disgraceful.   
    He was right about one thing, I'm tired of all this winning.   
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 13, 2020, 10:08:04 pm
Protester in Seattle’s CHAZ demands white demonstrators give out cash
https://nypost.com/2020/06/13/protester-in-seattles-chaz-demands-white-people-give-out-cash/
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Hoodat on June 14, 2020, 02:08:18 am
Protester in Seattle’s CHAZ demands white demonstrators give out cash
https://nypost.com/2020/06/13/protester-in-seattles-chaz-demands-white-people-give-out-cash/

Bunch of racists.  From the article:

Quote
“The white people … I see you, I see every single one of you and I remember your faces,” said the speaker.

The New Klan
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Hoodat on June 14, 2020, 02:11:55 am
@goatprairie

More important that that is the answer to the question "Do YOU believe we live in a dictatorship where a President can take away state leadership from that states elected representatives at will?

The Constitutional caveat here is that States must have a republican form of government.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 14, 2020, 02:22:22 am
Bunch of racists.  From the article:
Quote
“The white people … I see you, I see every single one of you and I remember your faces,” said the speaker.
The New Klan

Meh.  Pretty sure we all look alike to him.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 14, 2020, 05:03:25 am
Bunch of racists.  From the article:

The New Klan
What? We don't all look alike?
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: LadyLiberty on June 14, 2020, 03:45:55 pm
Fireworks: Patriots, Bikers, Plan Retake of CHAZ in Seattle

https://conservativefiringline.com/fireworks-patriots-bikers-plan-retake-of-chaz-in-seattle/ (https://conservativefiringline.com/fireworks-patriots-bikers-plan-retake-of-chaz-in-seattle/)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: LadyLiberty on June 14, 2020, 04:04:35 pm
https://twitter.com/i/status/1272009086297497600 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1272009086297497600)


Black man chased out of CHAZ for carrying the American flag.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: corbe on June 14, 2020, 04:11:39 pm
(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b3fdad29314c7ef2b71b118f73bb92a641a615ef96dcbc991ae1e15cc2363fba.jpg)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 14, 2020, 04:22:56 pm
https://twitter.com/i/status/1272009086297497600 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1272009086297497600)


Black man chased out of CHAZ for carrying the American flag.

3rd world thuggery comes to the United States
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: catfish1957 on June 14, 2020, 04:24:28 pm
(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b3fdad29314c7ef2b71b118f73bb92a641a615ef96dcbc991ae1e15cc2363fba.jpg)

I am going to glean one tiny positive out of this.  These turds won't be procreating. 
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: corbe on June 14, 2020, 04:36:42 pm
(https://i.imgflip.com/192wd8.jpg)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 14, 2020, 05:11:24 pm
Fireworks: Patriots, Bikers, Plan Retake of CHAZ in Seattle

https://conservativefiringline.com/fireworks-patriots-bikers-plan-retake-of-chaz-in-seattle/ (https://conservativefiringline.com/fireworks-patriots-bikers-plan-retake-of-chaz-in-seattle/)

@LadyLiberty

It doesn't even have to be "taken back". All the city has to do is cut off the water and the power,and they will all go back to either mama or public housing.

Cain't hab no partee widout no lectricitie!

They would even surrender peacefully to the po-po for a Big Mac if you wanted to surround the place with cops and have them man the exits with the Big Mac and a set of cuffs.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 14, 2020, 05:18:04 pm
(https://i.imgflip.com/192wd8.jpg)

@corbe

Good one!
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 14, 2020, 05:42:36 pm
(https://i.imgflip.com/192wd8.jpg)

I love that!
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 14, 2020, 05:44:46 pm
American flag-carrying citizens forcefully ejected from CHAZ; mayor says ‘Seattle is fine,’ it’s just ‘democracy’

(https://www.bizpacreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/flagchaz-470x260.jpg)

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/14/american-flag-carrying-citizens-forcefully-ejected-from-chaz-mayor-says-seattle-is-fine-its-just-democracy-934182 (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/14/american-flag-carrying-citizens-forcefully-ejected-from-chaz-mayor-says-seattle-is-fine-its-just-democracy-934182)
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 14, 2020, 05:55:13 pm
American flag-carrying citizens forcefully ejected from CHAZ; mayor says ‘Seattle is fine,’ it’s just ‘democracy’

(https://www.bizpacreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/flagchaz-470x260.jpg)

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/14/american-flag-carrying-citizens-forcefully-ejected-from-chaz-mayor-says-seattle-is-fine-its-just-democracy-934182 (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/14/american-flag-carrying-citizens-forcefully-ejected-from-chaz-mayor-says-seattle-is-fine-its-just-democracy-934182)

@mystery-ak

Those are brave,if foolish people.

I hope one day when this is all over and mostly forgotten,that those two are remembered and rewarded for their courage and patriotism.

If they were MY children,I would spank their asses for scaring the hell out of me,though.

I don't even know them,and I am still afraid for them.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: mystery-ak on June 14, 2020, 06:01:27 pm
@mystery-ak

Those are brave,if foolish people.

I hope one day when this is all over and mostly forgotten,that those two are remembered and rewarded for their courage and patriotism.

If they were MY children,I would spank their asses for scaring the hell out of me,though.

I don't even know them,and I am still afraid for them.

They are courageous and they give me hope for the future.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: sneakypete on June 14, 2020, 06:08:38 pm
(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b3fdad29314c7ef2b71b118f73bb92a641a615ef96dcbc991ae1e15cc2363fba.jpg)

@corbe

BTW,you missspelled "Armored Dyke"
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: corbe on June 14, 2020, 06:28:55 pm
https://twitter.com/MariaBonanno9/status/1272000182096474113 (https://twitter.com/MariaBonanno9/status/1272000182096474113)

 :rolling:
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 15, 2020, 03:25:03 am
(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b3fdad29314c7ef2b71b118f73bb92a641a615ef96dcbc991ae1e15cc2363fba.jpg)
Nah. Just Heavy Infantry.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 15, 2020, 03:27:09 am
@LadyLiberty

It doesn't even have to be "taken back". All the city has to do is cut off the water and the power,and they will all go back to either mama or public housing.

Cain't hab no partee widout no lectricitie!

They would even surrender peacefully to the po-po for a Big Mac if you wanted to surround the place with cops and have them man the exits with the Big Mac and a set of cuffs.
Nope. Turn the barriers around. Process every one of them. Prints, DNA, mugshots, tats, the works.
Title: Re: Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on June 15, 2020, 01:50:11 pm
Found this on 4chan:

https://gofile.io/d/Jru9UO

Raz and his homies try to search some guy, it doesn't go well.