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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: rangerrebew on June 24, 2014, 04:07:20 pm

Title: Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'
Post by: rangerrebew on June 24, 2014, 04:07:20 pm

Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'



June 24, 2014 - 5:23 AM


By Susan Jones



(CNSNews.com) - "I said I would provide all the emails. We are providing all the emails. The fact that three years ago, some of them -- not all of them, but some of them -- were not available, I never said I would provide you emails we didn't have," IRS Commissioner John Koskinen told a Monday evening hearing of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

Frustrated Republicans and apologetic Democrats questioned Koskinen about Lois Lerner's vanished emails for several hours, beginning with Committee Chair Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), who asked Koskinen if he knew those critical emails were missing when he testified before Issa's committee on March 26 -- but said nothing at the time about problems cropping up.

"I knew that I'd been told there was an issue that no one knew the ramifications of," Koskinen replied. But on March 26, Koskinen had "no basis" for knowing that even one of Lerner's emails had disappeared, he testified Monday night.



"Somebody said there's an odd development in the way the emails are showing up. We're going to pull all of her emails and investigate it. The first time I knew that emails had been lost from her account was in April."

(Later in the hearing, Koskinen was unable to remember when in April -- beginning, middle or end -- he was told that some of Lerner's emails were missing. Nor could he remember who told him, he testified.)

After learning in April that Lerner's emails, covering the key 2009-2011 period when conservative groups were inappropriately scrutinized, had been lost in a hard-drive crash, Koskinen told Issa, "I didn't tell anybody" about it. "I had no one I was going to tell," he said.

"Did you cause someone to find out at the White House and Treasury or your IG (inspector-general)?" Issa asked.

"I did not. If you have any evidence of that, I'd be happy to see it," Koskinen said.

"I asked a question!" Issa snapped.

"And I answered it!" Koskinen snapped back.

"So you told us that all emails would be provided," Issa said. "When you discovered that all emails would not be provided, you did not come back and inform us, is that correct?"

"All the emails we have will be provided," Koskinen insisted. "I did not say I would provide you emails that disappeared. If you have a magical way for me to do that, I'd be happy to know about it. I said I would provide all the emails. We are providing all the emails. The fact that three years ago, some of them, not all of them, but some of them were not available, I never said I would provide you emails we didn't have -- and in fact, we are going to provide you 24,000 emails from the time that ---

"My time has expired, and I've lost my patience with you," a disgusted Issa interrupted.

The House Ways and Means Committee, which also is looking into the IRS targeting of conservative groups, said last week that the Treasury Department and Obama White House learned about Lois Lerner's missing emails in April, six weeks before Congress found out in June.

Koskinen told the Ways and Means Committee last week it is his "understanding" that someone in the IRS general counsel's office informed someone in the Treasury Department's general counsel office "that there was an issue and the IRS was investigating."
Title: Re: Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'
Post by: GourmetDan on June 24, 2014, 05:29:36 pm

If he'd originally said that they would provide "all the emails that we have", the red flags would have gone up much sooner.

Course, w/ bureaucrats and politicians it always depends on what your definition of 'is' is...




Title: Re: Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'
Post by: Oceander on June 24, 2014, 05:32:38 pm
If he'd originally said that they would provide "all the emails that we have", the red flags would have gone up much sooner.

Course, w/ bureaucrats and politicians it always depends on what your definition of 'is' is...




:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'
Post by: GourmetDan on June 24, 2014, 05:33:50 pm

"All the emails we have will be provided," Koskinen insisted. "I did not say I would provide you emails that disappeared. If you have a magical way for me to do that, I'd be happy to know about it. I said I would provide all the emails. We are providing all the emails. The fact that three years ago, some of them, not all of them, but some of them were not available, I never said I would provide you emails we didn't have -- and in fact, we are going to provide you 24,000 emails from the time that ---


Interesting how these bureaucrats are so comfortable talking back and being disrespectful about an issue they created.  No contrition at all.

Classic liar's behavior...

Title: Re: Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'
Post by: Oceander on June 24, 2014, 05:35:18 pm
Interesting how these bureaucrats are so comfortable talking back and being disrespectful about an issue they created.  No contrition at all.

Classic liar's behavior...




I think you're right.  That sort of defensive bluster - defend yourself by attacking your accusers - is a classic tactic of someone who's been caught in a lie.
Title: Re: Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'
Post by: Lando Lincoln on June 24, 2014, 05:52:09 pm

I think you're right.  That sort of defensive bluster - defend yourself by attacking your accusers - is a classic tactic of someone who's been caught in a lie.

The arrogance in which he does so is infuriating.
Title: Re: Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'
Post by: flowers on June 24, 2014, 06:08:12 pm
I just have to say one thing...........................AAGHHHHH!

Title: Re: Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'
Post by: flowers on June 24, 2014, 06:09:06 pm
I truly despise these evil bastards......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'
Post by: flowers on June 24, 2014, 06:17:55 pm
Those e-mails must have proof this goes all the way to obie. why else are they hiding them?
Title: Re: Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'
Post by: flowers on June 24, 2014, 06:24:26 pm
So now they don't have the e-mails.........time to convict for destroying evidence.   yes i know not going to happen.
Title: Re: Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'
Post by: flowers on June 24, 2014, 06:24:57 pm
It seems I had more than one thing to say....... :th_10444:
Title: Re: Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'
Post by: alicewonders on June 24, 2014, 06:33:21 pm
Those e-mails must have proof this goes all the way to obie. why else are they hiding them?

Yep.  That or it is a diversion.  You never know with this bunch.
Title: Re: Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'
Post by: flowers on June 24, 2014, 07:00:50 pm
Yep.  That or it is a diversion.  You never know with this bunch.
yes we never know. :shrug:   :chairbang:
Title: Re: Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'
Post by: Chieftain on June 24, 2014, 07:10:09 pm
So now they don't have the e-mails.........time to convict for destroying evidence.   yes i know not going to happen.

They do have those e-mails on backup tapes somewhere, and the excuse now is that it is just too difficult to retrieve them, and much simpler to just say "F#@k you" to Congress.

 :smokin:
Title: Re: Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'
Post by: Relic on June 24, 2014, 07:34:23 pm
They do have those e-mails on backup tapes somewhere, and the excuse now is that it is just too difficult to retrieve them, and much simpler to just say "F#@k you" to Congress.

 :smokin:

They are right. At least to the Republican controlled House.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qmaB4Im0tY
Title: Re: Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 24, 2014, 11:17:33 pm
I just have to say one thing...........................AAGHHHHH!

Mega dittos!   :#@$%:
Title: Re: Koskinen to Issa: 'I Never Said I Would Provide You Emails We Didn't Have'
Post by: rangerrebew on June 25, 2014, 05:49:52 pm
I remember when I was a boy, Mitt Romney's father, then democratic Presidential "candidate" made a comment about Viet Nam that went over like a lead balloon.  He tried to back out of it gracefully but it sounded like he denied saying it.  His response to that was so bizarre that to this day I remember it word for word: "I didn't say that I didn't say it, what I said was that I didn't say that I said, it and I want to make that perfectly clear."    Koskinen comes as close as anyone ever has since to repeating the statement.