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Title: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: mystery-ak on November 19, 2020, 01:41:19 pm
November 19, 2020
Who wants Trump to concede?
By Silvio Canto, Jr.
The White House got some news about its challenge to the election results.
 
Let's look at this Politico post:

Quote
    A plurality of voters believe President Donald Trump should immediately admit defeat to President-elect Joe Biden, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll, while just under half of Republican respondents said Trump should concede the 2020 election if he cannot eventually produce evidence to support his baseless claims of widespread voter fraud.
     
    The poll, published Tuesday, reports that 46 percent of registered voters think Trump should concede to Biden “right away.”
     
    That total includes 72 percent of Democrats surveyed, 43 percent of independents surveyed and 17 percent of Republicans surveyed.

Check out the independents.  It sounds to me like a majority are not calling for an immediate concession.
 
My "own unofficial unscientific poll" suggests that a lot of my contacts are not content that so things about this election are not explained.

more
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/who_wants_trump_to_concede.html (https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/who_wants_trump_to_concede.html)
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: FeelNoPain on November 19, 2020, 02:19:46 pm
November 19, 2020
Who wants Trump to concede?
By Silvio Canto, Jr.
The White House got some news about its challenge to the election results.
 
Let's look at this Politico post:

Check out the independents.  It sounds to me like a majority are not calling for an immediate concession.
 
My "own unofficial unscientific poll" suggests that a lot of my contacts are not content that so things about this election are not explained.

more
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/who_wants_trump_to_concede.html (https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/who_wants_trump_to_concede.html)

I hope he never concedes.
NEED the entertainment. NEED the hilarity.
NEED to see Trump rule the GOP in abstentia from Mar-a-lago. NEED to see him play Kingmaker and make GOPers grovel.
NEED to watch the senators and governors get tired of having to kiss his burly rear and try to "pushback."
NEED to see Trump stomp the d---s in the dirt of all who dare to defy.
Pence, Sasse, Pompeo, Cotton, Cruz, Haley, Rubes et al? You thought it was your turn in 2024?
"lol." You all are mere foot soldiers in the Trump gang...for life.
Owned.
[And Mitch, you'd better not get cute either]
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 19, 2020, 02:46:49 pm
'Fraid not. Trump'll be banned from the networks. Comcast will cut off his internet. IRS agents & ANTIFA will surround his estate in perpetuity and he'll be forced to languish at Mar a Lago forever under an endless COVID quarantine.

The rats, now a permanently 'elected' majority, will demand fealty from the dwindling numbers of elected republicans, or face being mail-in balloted out of office. Mitch will crawl, not to Florida for sanction but to Nancy's Napa compound to beg for gourmet ice cream. Individual Republicans will be hunted in the streets and driven underground in key states by professional college students and newly minted American citizens which will result from Biden's removal of Trump's Big Beautiful Wall.

Its a brand new world out there.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Jazzhead on November 19, 2020, 02:56:55 pm
What's at stake now is the Georgia runoffs.    The ability to contain the prog agenda is what matters.    Trump's becoming a distraction,  if not a turnoff for those we need to persuade to get past this last, crucial hurdle.   Where is Trump's loyalty to the party?
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 19, 2020, 03:41:02 pm
What's at stake now is the Georgia runoffs.    The ability to contain the prog agenda is what matters.    Trump's becoming a distraction,  if not a turnoff for those we need to persuade to get past this last, crucial hurdle.   Where is Trump's loyalty to the party?

I wish I could say you know if GA doesn't get their little red wagons fixed, we'll lose both those seats.  But you have consistently ignored multiple Members telling you this, and swearing the state with a now-known propensity for cheating will somehow produce an honest election 1/5/21.  It's Magic.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 19, 2020, 03:44:38 pm
I wish I could say you know if GA doesn't get their little red wagons fixed, we'll lose both those seats.  But you have consistently ignored multiple Members telling you this, and swearing the state with a now-known propensity for cheating will somehow produce an honest election 1/5/21.  It's Magic.
He has confidence the GOP will prevail in GA in the runoffs, as he is confident their currently ongoing recount will yield honest results. Its all good as long as Trump goes home.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Jazzhead on November 19, 2020, 05:07:54 pm
He has confidence the GOP will prevail in GA in the runoffs, as he is confident their currently ongoing recount will yield honest results. Its all good as long as Trump goes home.

You misunderstand.  I don't want Trump to "go home".   I think he should run again in 2024.   But the reality is that he lost,  and no one likes a sore loser.   He is crippling both his and his party's future by railing against that reality. 
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Absalom on November 19, 2020, 05:11:12 pm
What's at stake now is the Georgia runoffs.    The ability to contain the prog agenda is what matters.    Trump's becoming a distraction,  if not a turnoff for those we need to persuade to get past this last, crucial hurdle.   Where is Trump's loyalty to the party?
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A reflection.
Trump has been a bs buffoon since birth and instantly forgotten by normal plain people. More importantly, Republicans are strongly favored to win both Georgia runoffs, giving
them +4 in the Senate.
Also they are creeping ever closer to the D's in the House as the 2020 recounts finish.
Add to that the pending national re-drawing of House Districts for 2022, based on the Census, and the possibility of Republican control of Congress is certainly attainable.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Bigun on November 19, 2020, 05:12:47 pm
You misunderstand.  I don't want Trump to "go home".   I think he should run again in 2024.   But the reality is that he lost,  and no one likes a sore loser.   He is crippling both his and his party's future by railing against that reality.

Bovine Fecal matter!  He hasn't lost anything despite your and your media buddy's protestations to the contrary.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: XenaLee on November 19, 2020, 05:14:14 pm
You misunderstand.  I don't want Trump to "go home".   I think he should run again in 2024.   But the reality is that he lost,  and no one likes a sore loser.   He is crippling both his and his party's future by railing against that reality.

He hasn't lost.   Yo momma hasn't sung yet.   
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Jazzhead on November 19, 2020, 05:25:47 pm
-----------------------------------
A reflection.
Trump has been a bs buffoon since birth and will be instantly forgotten by normal plain people.
The Republicans are strongly favored to win both Georgia runoffs, giving then +4 in the Senate.
Also they are creeping ever closer to the D's in the House as the 2020 recounts finish.
Add to that the pending national re-drawing of House Districts for 2022 based on the Census
and the possibility of Republican control of Congress is certainly attainable.

Yes indeed.   There is great cause for optimism.  It is time for Trump to begin to cooperate on the transition,  even as he caters to the bitter- enders by throwing money at lawyers. 
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: roamer_1 on November 19, 2020, 05:28:00 pm
He hasn't lost.   Yo momma hasn't sung yet.

 :silly: :silly: :silly:

That was excellent in it's delivery...  :seeya:
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: XenaLee on November 19, 2020, 05:29:47 pm
Yes indeed.   There is great cause for optimism.  It is time for Trump to begin to cooperate on the transition,  even as he caters to the bitter- enders by throwing money at lawyers.

Actually, it is time for Biden to bag it and crawl/slither back to his basement.

Ahem....

seized servers show "real" election results before leftist cheaters "changed" the numbers...

(https://evansnewsreport.files.wordpress.com/2020/11/screen-shot-2020-11-17-at-8.31.17-pm.png?w=816)

https://evansnewsreport.com/2020/11/17/report-server-seized-in-skytl-raid-shows-trump-actually-got-410-electoral-votes-media-panics/
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: XenaLee on November 19, 2020, 05:30:57 pm
:silly: :silly: :silly:

That was excellent in it's delivery...  :seeya:

 :smokin:
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: catfish1957 on November 19, 2020, 05:31:45 pm
Gore challenged the 2000 election for 37 days.  why shouldn't DJT be given the same courtesy?
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: XenaLee on November 19, 2020, 05:34:04 pm
Gore challenged the 2000 election for 37 days.  why shouldn't DJT be given the same courtesy?

Well obviously....

because Orange Man Bad!!!    :thud:
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 19, 2020, 05:35:56 pm
You misunderstand.  I don't want Trump to "go home".   I think he should run again in 2024.   But the reality is that he lost,  and no one likes a sore loser.   He is crippling both his and his party's future by railing against that reality.
You misunderstand. People love Trump because he refuses to roll over. Going the entire nine yards here will endear him to patriotic Americans for as long as this republic exists & insure his place in the halls of Valhalla, where establishment republican poltroons will beg for a chance to touch his august toes.

Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: GrouchoTex on November 19, 2020, 05:39:45 pm
Gore challenged the 2000 election for 37 days.  why shouldn't DJT be given the same courtesy?

I agree, and Gore did this over just a few counties in Florida.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: catfish1957 on November 19, 2020, 05:41:19 pm
You misunderstand. People love Trump because he refuses to roll over. Going the entire nine yards here will endear him to patriotic Americans for as long as this republic exists & insure his place in the halls of Valhalla, where establishment republican poltroons will beg for a chance to touch his august toes.

The GOP has been feckless for decades.  Al Franken's 2008 election for prelude to this, except this is on much grander scale.  Delay and obfusicate until you can find enough votes to win. And at this moment, the same tactic is being planned for the two GA senatorial seats.

Until this Rebulican Party starts tossing away the knife at the electorak gun fight.  They are going to lose a lot close races.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 19, 2020, 05:42:55 pm
You misunderstand.  I don't want Trump to "go home".   I think he should run again in 2024.   But the reality is that he lost,  and no one likes a sore loser.   He is crippling both his and his party's future by railing against that reality.

Always too cute by half.  You are prevaricating when you say you want Trump in 2024.  Put less delicately, that is a gold-plated lie, and you're a bigger fool than I thought if you think anybody here believes you.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 19, 2020, 05:43:46 pm
The GOP has been feckless for decades.  Al Franken's 2008 election for prelude to this, except this is on much grander scale.  Delay and obfusicate until you can find enough votes to win. And at this moment, the same tactic is being planned for the two GA senatorial seats.

Until this Rebulican Party starts tossing away the knife at the electorak gun fight.  They are going to lose a lot close races.

Yes, and it is beyond out of touch to believe Trump’s popularity will suffer by his standing up to this corrupt system.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Jazzhead on November 19, 2020, 05:44:16 pm
Bovine Fecal matter!  He hasn't lost anything despite your and your media buddy's protestations to the contrary.

There is no way he is going to overturn the results in at least three states.   There is far more to be gained by cooperating with the new President than by whining and railing and pursuing futile challenges.   Even if won't finally concede until the Electors meet in December,  at least cooperate with the transition.   Especially if we are attacked like we were on 9/11,  there is nothing good that can come of a charge from Biden that he wasn't prepared because Trump acted like a dick and wouldn't share intelligence information.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: catfish1957 on November 19, 2020, 05:45:12 pm
Always too cute by half.  You are prevaricating when you say tou want Trump in 2024.  Put less delicately, that is a gold-plated lie, and you're a bigger fool than I thought if you think anybody here believes you.

Yep...reeks like...

(https://www.realfarmacy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/bridge-troll-4e7123d-intro.jpg)
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Jazzhead on November 19, 2020, 05:46:10 pm
Always too cute by half.  You are prevaricating when you say you want Trump in 2024.  Put less delicately, that is a gold-plated lie, and you're a bigger fool than I thought if you think anybody here believes you.

I think if he plays his cards right he can win in 2024.   But not if he burns his bridges. 
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: catfish1957 on November 19, 2020, 05:47:48 pm
I think if he plays his cards right he can win in 2024.   But not if he burns his bridges.
You'd know about bridges.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 19, 2020, 05:51:25 pm
I think if he plays his cards right he can win in 2024.   But not if he burns his bridges.

You and your playing cards.  I'd bet a hundred bucks you will be as Orange Man Bad as you have been in the past 5 years, but nobody's gonna take that bet.

There won't be a fair election in 2024 if the Rats get away with this election, and you would know it if you weren't willfully ignorant.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: XenaLee on November 19, 2020, 05:52:05 pm
I think if he plays his cards right he can win in 2024.   But not if he burns his bridges.

The only bridges that will be burned....

are the ones burned by the treasonous idiots that are supporting this massive election theft attempt.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 19, 2020, 05:52:22 pm
You'd know about bridges.

Well played!  333cleo 333cleo
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 19, 2020, 06:01:56 pm
The only bridges that will be burned....

are the ones burned by the treasonous idiots that are supporting this massive election theft attempt.
Trump’s legal team is laying out their case in a presser now.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Jazzhead on November 19, 2020, 06:03:13 pm
Always too cute by half.  You are prevaricating when you say you want Trump in 2024.  Put less delicately, that is a gold-plated lie, and you're a bigger fool than I thought if you think anybody here believes you.

What lie?   Trump certainly deserves to run again if that's what he wants to do.  I strongly support the populist direction he has taken the party,  and have said so on many occasions.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: XenaLee on November 19, 2020, 06:03:28 pm
Trump’s legal team is laying out their case in a presser now.

Listening to it on Rush and recording it on Newsmax.   888high58888
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 19, 2020, 06:04:51 pm
What lie?   Trump certainly deserves to run again if that's what he wants to do.

And you can be relied upon to shit on him, and his supporters every step of the way.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 19, 2020, 06:05:51 pm
Listening to it on Rush and recording it on Newsmax.   888high58888

I'm stuck in a waiting room.  8888crybaby
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Restored on November 19, 2020, 06:06:04 pm
Trump won in 2016 because the Democrats were so sure Hillary was going to win in a landslide, they decided to save the money that is needed to do this. This time, they spent the money but they got sloppy. They revealed the thing that's not for revealing. And they have to do it again in Ga for the Senate

Trump shouldn't run in 2024. He will be as old as Biden is now and that's too old to be President.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: XenaLee on November 19, 2020, 06:07:37 pm
What lie?   Trump certainly deserves to run again if that's what he wants to do.  I strongly support the populist direction he has taken the party,  and have said so on many occasions.

Now you're just trying to poke the proverbial, collective bear.   And I don't think you're cute at all.   You know exactly what you're doing here.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Jazzhead on November 19, 2020, 06:08:10 pm
And you can be relied upon to shit on him, and his supporters every step of the way.

Bullshit.  I strongly support the populist direction he has taken the party, and have said so many times.   And his supporters are key members of the GOP coalition.

But this election is over, folks
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 19, 2020, 06:09:24 pm
Bullshit.  I strongly support the populist direction he has taken the party, and have said so many times.   And his supporters are key members of the GOP coalition.

But this election is over, folks

Enjoy your wet dreams. :pop41:
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: XenaLee on November 19, 2020, 06:10:18 pm
I'm stuck in a waiting room.  8888crybaby

There will be lots of recordings of it on the net later.   Newsmax website, for instance. 
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: catfish1957 on November 19, 2020, 06:10:53 pm


But this election is over, folks

The electoral college voted today?  Damn, my news sources must be slow...    :silly:
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: XenaLee on November 19, 2020, 06:11:44 pm
The electoral college voted today?  Damn, my news sources must be slow...    :silly:

Nah.  He's just lying.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 19, 2020, 06:11:46 pm
Listening to it on Rush and recording it on Newsmax.   888high58888
Pretty impressive. Makes those telling everyone ‘the election was fair let’s move on’ seem pretty dishonest. Or at least curiously incurious.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 19, 2020, 06:12:37 pm
Listening to it on Rush and recording it on Newsmax.   888high58888

Very informative.  Q&A starting now ....
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 19, 2020, 06:12:53 pm
The electoral college voted today?  Damn, my news sources must be slow...    :silly:

He's mocking us for refusing to give up and surrender. One more tick on the Troll scorecard.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: XenaLee on November 19, 2020, 06:14:17 pm
He's mocking us for refusing to give up and surrender. One more tick on the Troll scorecard.

Trolls gotta troll.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 19, 2020, 06:14:55 pm
But this election is over, folks

Are you not aware of the counting, recounting and lawsuits taking place?

This ain't over, Sparky, not by a long shot.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: dfwgator on November 19, 2020, 06:15:29 pm
Trump needs to fight this all the way, if for nothing else,  to drive home how messed up our electoral systems and the media bias.

Even if it doesn't wind up giving Trump the election,   putting that information out there, will weaken Biden's Presidency, and set up the eventual downfall of the Democrats and their partners in the media. 

You have a lot of people who don't even like Trump, beginning to see the light.    That means, eventually this could blow up into a full-blown Resistance Movement, encompassing people from all political beliefs,  who all see the common enemy.     Ultimately, that's what it will take to change things,  it cannot be just from "the Right".
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 19, 2020, 06:16:28 pm
Trump needs to fight this all the way, if for nothing else,  to drive home how messed up our electoral systems and the media bias.

Even if it doesn't wind up giving Trump the election,   putting that information out there, will weaken Biden's Presidency, and set up the eventual downfall of the Democrats and their partners in the media. 

You have a lot of people who don't even like Trump, beginning to see the light.    That means, eventually this could blow up into a full-blown Resistance Movement, encompassing people from all political beliefs,  who all see the common enemy.     Ultimately, that's what it will take to change things,  it cannot be just from "the Right".
Exactly right.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: mystery-ak on November 19, 2020, 06:17:31 pm
Once again Rudy will be the topic with his hair dye running down his face...
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 19, 2020, 06:18:56 pm
Are you not aware of the counting, recounting and lawsuits taking place?

This ain't over, Sparky, not by a long shot.

He chooses to ignore the fact there's a war on, and he's among the people who started it.  Well, it ain't over untill we say it is.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: catfish1957 on November 19, 2020, 06:19:41 pm
Are you not aware of the counting, recounting and lawsuits taking place?

This ain't over, Sparky, not by a long shot.

He's just trying to warm up the Briefer Crowd.....

(https://plentyofpopcorn.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/braveheart-scotsmen-e1460249864476.jpg)
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Restored on November 19, 2020, 06:22:02 pm

Even if it doesn't wind up giving Trump the election,   putting that information out there, will weaken Biden's Presidency, and set up the eventual downfall of the Democrats and their partners in the media. 

Biden doesn't need any help being weakened. His cognitive decline will be rapid now. I give him 6 months. I still suspect the Democrats may use this opportunity to get a much better person in the WH besides Harris. If they go into the mid-terms with her in the Oval Office, it may be 1994 all over again.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: XenaLee on November 19, 2020, 06:22:53 pm
He chooses to ignore the fact there's a war on, and he's among the people who started it.  Well, it ain't over untill we say it is.

And it won't be over, at least for me, until every last one of them is ...ah... er.... um....

gone.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: dfwgator on November 19, 2020, 06:42:30 pm
Biden doesn't need any help being weakened. His cognitive decline will be rapid now. I give him 6 months. I still suspect the Democrats may use this opportunity to get a much better person in the WH besides Harris. If they go into the mid-terms with her in the Oval Office, it may be 1994 all over again.

I was thinking it would be Gavin Newsom, but he seems to be screwing that up lately.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Bigun on November 19, 2020, 06:48:29 pm
Yep...reeks like...

(https://www.realfarmacy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/bridge-troll-4e7123d-intro.jpg)

 :yowsa:  For ages and ages!
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 19, 2020, 08:22:44 pm
Biden doesn't need any help being weakened. His cognitive decline will be rapid now. I give him 6 months. I still suspect the Democrats may use this opportunity to get a much better person in the WH besides Harris. If they go into the mid-terms with her in the Oval Office, it may be 1994 all over again.
Biden is history, just waiting for the ink to dry:

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4z1wYzDjck&feature=youtu.be#)
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Bigun on November 19, 2020, 08:33:21 pm
Biden is history, just waiting for the ink to dry:

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4z1wYzDjck&feature=youtu.be#)

WOW!! Just wow!
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Absalom on November 19, 2020, 09:06:50 pm
You misunderstand. People love Trump because he refuses to roll over. Going the entire nine yards here will endear him to patriotic Americans for as long as this republic exists & insure his place in the halls of Valhalla, where establishment republican poltroons will beg for a chance to touch his august toes.
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People love Trump??? Hmm............perhaps neurotics do, but hardly normal plain people.
Aristophanes, the Father of Comedy, must be in hysterical bemusement witnessing 4 years
of Trump ending in this electoral fandango.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 19, 2020, 09:20:49 pm
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People love Trump??? Hmm............perhaps neurotics do, but hardly normal plain people.
Aristophanes, the Father of Comedy, must be in hysterical bemusement witnessing 4 years
of Trump ending in this electoral fandango.

Speaking of funny I wish you would say something humorous, Pliny the Booger.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: rustynail on November 19, 2020, 09:23:10 pm
Who wants Trump to concede?   The self chosen?
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 19, 2020, 11:50:22 pm
WOW!! Just wow!
No kidding! That was my reaction as well!
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2020, 12:40:22 am
WOW!! Just wow!

I'd watch it, but I don't have an hour to spare, nor ears with which to hear it.   :shrug:
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: bigheadfred on November 20, 2020, 12:47:55 am
I do. I want him to concede reconciliation is impossible and death to the opposition is at hand.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 20, 2020, 12:53:07 am
I'd watch it, but I don't have an hour to spare, nor ears with which to hear it.   :shrug:
Unless you understand Ukrainian, hearing wouldn't mean much. Read the subtitles. You don't need the whole hour, the first ten minutes lay it out, the rest is supportive and interviews with witnesses/perpetrators.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: jmyrlefuller on November 20, 2020, 12:53:34 am
What lie?   Trump certainly deserves to run again if that's what he wants to do.  I strongly support the populist direction he has taken the party,  and have said so on many occasions.
After 2020? Why should we trust him again?
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: jmyrlefuller on November 20, 2020, 12:54:48 am
Pence, Sasse, Pompeo, Cotton, Cruz, Haley, Rubes et al? You thought it was your turn in 2024?
"lol." You all are mere foot soldiers in the Trump gang...for life.
Owned.
Gee, thanks for the dose of despair and hopelessness tonight, like I needed any more of that.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2020, 01:12:03 am
Unless you understand Ukrainian, hearing wouldn't mean much. Read the subtitles. You don't need the whole hour, the first ten minutes lay it out, the rest is supportive and interviews with witnesses/perpetrators.

Cool! I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2020, 01:15:21 am
After 2020? Why should we trust him again?

I know what I trust:  The feller you are quoting will crap on Trump, and Briefers (for good measure) for the next 4 years, and will then say Trump is not electable because he's damaged goods.  He's been at it for the past 5 years. 

Just watch.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: libertybele on November 20, 2020, 01:16:26 am
Gore challenged the 2000 election for 37 days.  why shouldn't DJT be given the same courtesy?

Problem is Giuliani has not been able to come up with overwhelming and compelling evidence of fraud -- the courts are not even hearing the cases so no chance of cases making it to the Supreme Court.

Do I want Trump to concede? Of course not.   However, reality is that he will eventually have to.  .... either that or Biden will be sworn in without Trump conceding.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: bigheadfred on November 20, 2020, 01:18:29 am
Gee, thanks for the dose of despair and hopelessness tonight, like I needed any more of that.

Post some songs. Or think about the octopus. I have all day. They can think with their skin. And with eight arms to think with think just how much hopelessness and despair that could enjoin. teehee
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: libertybele on November 20, 2020, 01:20:40 am
Post some songs. Or think about the octopus. I have all day. They can think with their skin. And with eight arms to think with think just how much hopelessness and despair that could enjoin. teehee

I agree ... the heck with what is going on .... life goes on ... concentrate on writing a new song.  I'll be waiting to hear it.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2020, 01:33:10 am
I agree ... the heck with what is going on .... life goes on ... concentrate on writing a new song.  I'll be waiting to hear it.

We're adopting 2 kitties tomorrow!  rrthree happy77 :yowsa:
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: bigheadfred on November 20, 2020, 01:38:17 am
We're adopting 2 kitties tomorrow!  rrthree happy77 :yowsa:

Is this one of those the cats are out of the bag things?
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: libertybele on November 20, 2020, 01:40:29 am
We're adopting 2 kitties tomorrow!  rrthree happy77 :yowsa:

Yay!  I would love to see pictures of the new kitties.

P.S.......A kittie family pic would be nice.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Fishrrman on November 20, 2020, 01:40:48 am
This looks to be another one of those threads where a few disruptors come in and provoke much bickering and backbiting.

I don't play those games. I put those guys on ignore a long time ago, and they're NEVER coming off my blacklist.

But I'll repeat what I've posted earlier on this subject:
Mr. Trump should NOT "concede", per se.
Not to an "election" that was rampant with fraud and corruption.

He should comply with the requirements of the Constitution.
To wit:
He should wait until the Electoral College meets and votes on December 14th.
Then... if the vote is for biden... Mr. Trump should issue a simple statement that he "accepts the decision of the Electoral College".
And say no more than that.

And then, on the morning of January 20th, at about 11.45am he should board Air Force One and fly south to Florida...
...And leave the cheaters to themselves on the inauguration bleachers.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2020, 01:53:20 am
Yay!  I would love to see pictures of the new kitties.

P.S.......A kittie family pic would be nice.

Pics are in the Lounge....
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2020, 01:56:00 am
This looks to be another one of those threads where a few disruptors come in and provoke much bickering and backbiting.

I don't play those games. I put those guys on ignore a long time ago, and they're NEVER coming off my blacklist.

But I'll repeat what I've posted earlier on this subject:
Mr. Trump should NOT "concede", per se.
Not to an "election" that was rampant with fraud and corruption.

He should comply with the requirements of the Constitution.
To wit:
He should wait until the Electoral College meets and votes on December 14th.
Then... if the vote is for biden... Mr. Trump should issue a simple statement that he "accepts the decision of the Electoral College".
And say no more than that.

And then, on the morning of January 20th, at about 11.45am he should board Air Force One and fly south to Florida...
...And leave the cheaters to themselves on the inauguration bleachers.

I'd like to see him make a wholesale dump of the O'Bastardgate docs.  The rats have been demanding he be frog-marched out of the White House right now to prevent that.  there are some Pardons due to be handed out, too.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: libertybele on November 20, 2020, 01:59:16 am
This looks to be another one of those threads where a few disruptors come in and provoke much bickering and backbiting.

I don't play those games. I put those guys on ignore a long time ago, and they're NEVER coming off my blacklist.

But I'll repeat what I've posted earlier on this subject:
Mr. Trump should NOT "concede", per se.
Not to an "election" that was rampant with fraud and corruption.

He should comply with the requirements of the Constitution.
To wit:
He should wait until the Electoral College meets and votes on December 14th.
Then... if the vote is for biden... Mr. Trump should issue a simple statement that he "accepts the decision of the Electoral College".
And say no more than that.

And then, on the morning of January 20th, at about 11.45am he should board Air Force One and fly south to Florida...
...And leave the cheaters to themselves on the inauguration bleachers.

Agreed. If the vote is for Biden. 

Consider then, that Trump has served his country well.  He is loved by millions.  He is not a young man and should get back to the lifestyle that he enjoyed before he ventured into running for president and spend the remaining days with his family and doing what he enjoys.  He can also proudly raise his middle finger to the bat crap crazy leftists.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2020, 02:06:36 am
Unless you understand Ukrainian, hearing wouldn't mean much. Read the subtitles. You don't need the whole hour, the first ten minutes lay it out, the rest is supportive and interviews with witnesses/perpetrators.

I thought the recordings of the actual phone calls were pretty damned telling myself! @Smokin Joe
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 20, 2020, 02:08:54 am
Problem is Giuliani has not been able to come up with overwhelming and compelling evidence of fraud -- the courts are not even hearing the cases so no chance of cases making it to the Supreme Court.

Do I want Trump to concede? Of course not.   However, reality is that he will eventually have to.  .... either that or Biden will be sworn in without Trump conceding.
You must not have watched the presser today.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: bigheadfred on November 20, 2020, 02:11:49 am
You must not have watched the presser today.

I didn't. Work. Also got the flu, or covid. Been a long bad week.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Fishrrman on November 20, 2020, 02:12:09 am
Cyber wrote:
"there are some Pardons due to be handed out, too."

Yup.

And NUMBER ONE on the pardon list is Michael Flynn.
If Mr. Trump doesn't issue a full pardon for Mr. Flynn, the democrat-communists will crucify him.

...Which is what I've been posting in this forum for MONTHS now whenever Mr. Flynn's case comes up...
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 20, 2020, 02:14:57 am
I didn't. Work. Also got the flu, or covid. Been a long bad week.
It was fun. There must be something to all this voter fraud stuff
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 20, 2020, 02:20:47 am
Quote
Biden refuses to concede despite hundreds of witnesses of election fraud. But I don’t mind it he lets the process run.— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) November 19, 2020
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2020, 02:36:55 am
Problem is Giuliani has not been able to come up with overwhelming and compelling evidence of fraud -- the courts are not even hearing the cases so no chance of cases making it to the Supreme Court.

Do I want Trump to concede? Of course not.   However, reality is that he will eventually have to.  .... either that or Biden will be sworn in without Trump conceding.

Powell and Jenna said right upfront that this is an opening statement, and it's not time to provide evidence until it hits the real trial.  Do not let it panic you into believing there is "no evidence."  There is.

You are being gaslighted by the press.  Turn Fox off, entirely.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: corbe on November 20, 2020, 02:49:11 am
   Hardly anyone here is saying it wasn't stolen from Trump, we've known this for years, they cheat.  Use to be 5% was enough to overcome their cheating advantage, I think it's now jumped to 10~15%
   The last 'Honest' election we had was probably Eisenhower in '56.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Dwight_D._Eisenhower%2C_White_House_photo_portrait%2C_February_1959.jpg/330px-Dwight_D._Eisenhower%2C_White_House_photo_portrait%2C_February_1959.jpg)
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Sighlass on November 20, 2020, 04:23:03 am
I want every last cheating vote exposed to daylight... so no I don't want Trump to concede... Do I want Trump (if he comes up short here) in 2024.... not just no, but heck no.

Do I think Trump won? Yeah I do.... probable by more than most folks believe. Do I think Trump has the manpower to prove he was cheated, probable not (especially since a lot of it depends on what judges allow and libs are not afraid to use a liberal judge pawn to cover their tracks).

Final thoughts, hide a gun, and don't tell anyone where or that you have hid it....
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: catfish1957 on November 20, 2020, 04:37:26 am
Just got a text that Tucker Carlson flipped to the dark side.  Fox execs get to him?

Not looking good.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 20, 2020, 05:24:05 am
Just got a text that Tucker Carlson flipped to the dark side.  Fox execs get to him?

Not looking good.
Carlson implied Powell had no case solely because she didn’t accept his offer to come on his show. It was lame. Really disappointed in him.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: sneakypete on November 20, 2020, 07:50:20 am
RINO's,most of all. Not even the Dims fear a Trump success like the RINO's do because the Dims can still dream of another comeback.

The RINO's understand that another loss to Trump is the end of their power scam. They will have nothing to offer anyone.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: sneakypete on November 20, 2020, 07:53:15 am
What's at stake now is the Georgia runoffs.    The ability to contain the prog agenda is what matters.    Trump's becoming a distraction,  if not a turnoff for those we need to persuade to get past this last, crucial hurdle.   Where is Trump's loyalty to the party?

@Jazzhead

Your mama dropped you on your head a lot when you were an infant,didn't she?
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: sneakypete on November 20, 2020, 07:58:55 am
Always too cute by half. You are prevaricating when you say you want Trump in 2024.  Put less delicately, that is a gold-plated lie, and you're a bigger fool than I thought if you think anybody here believes you.

@Cyber Liberty

@Jazzhead

Cyber,I have no problem at all believing him. He thinks Trump is destroying the Republican Party,and he thinks that is a good thing,so why WOULDN'T he want Trump running again?
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: dancer on November 20, 2020, 11:55:10 am
Just got a text that Tucker Carlson flipped to the dark side.  Fox execs get to him?

Not looking good.
Tucker is mad that Sydney Powell won't come on his show to spill the beans, wants "proof." 

Not sure what to think because he is smarter than that!  Evidence will come out in a court of law, not on
Tucker's show. 

He is getting hammered on Twitter.  Deservedly so.  I watched the vid twice, the second time with the sound off.  His body language is telling.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Restored on November 20, 2020, 01:25:37 pm
I was thinking it would be Gavin Newsom, but he seems to be screwing that up lately.

I'm thinking it will be a party man like Mark Warner.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Restored on November 20, 2020, 01:32:38 pm
Biden is history, just waiting for the ink to dry:


I don't think you understand. That news doesn't exist. That story never happened. You are guilty of noticing things that aren't for noticing. Anyone who believes that is a QAnon and QAnons are "dangerous". Remember, Biden won't have a trace of Dementia until it is time to have it.

When the House started talking about QAnon, my first thought was "Why are they even talking about this?" Then it hit me. QAnon is the strawman. Qanon is Anthony Fremont's Corn Field. That's where the bad stories will go.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2020, 01:47:47 pm
Tucker is mad that Sydney Powell won't come on his show to spill the beans, wants "proof." 

Not sure what to think because he is smarter than that!  Evidence will come out in a court of law, not on
Tucker's show. 

He is getting hammered on Twitter.  Deservedly so.  I watched the vid twice, the second time with the sound off.  His body language is telling.

 :yowsa: You beat me to it @dancer
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Polly Ticks on November 20, 2020, 01:58:16 pm
You misunderstand.  I don't want Trump to "go home".   I think he should run again in 2024. 

I'm running late to this party, so apologies if you've already answered this somewhere down the thread, but why would you say you want him to run again in 2024?  You previously had said you thought the only chance for the Republican party to prevail in this year's election was if Trump were to step aside in favor of someone else.  What changed?  Or what do you think will be different about 2024 that makes Trump a better candidate four years down the road than he is now?
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Jazzhead on November 20, 2020, 02:26:01 pm
Just got a text that Tucker Carlson flipped to the dark side.  Fox execs get to him?

Not looking good.

Yes,  he asked to see actual evidence.    I guess that's turning to the dark side around here
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2020, 02:33:28 pm
Yes,  he asked to see actual evidence.    I guess that's turning to the dark side around here

And he knows damned well, just as you do, why she cannot come on his show and present evidence!  Begone Troll!
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Jazzhead on November 20, 2020, 03:04:52 pm
@Cyber Liberty

@Jazzhead

Cyber,I have no problem at all believing him. He thinks Trump is destroying the Republican Party,and he thinks that is a good thing,so why WOULDN'T he want Trump running again?

I don't think Trump is destroying the GOP.  His formula for attracting working folks and minorities to a message of economic growth and Americanism has reinvigorated the party.    But the man himself is a small-minded megalomamiac.  IMO, of course.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2020, 03:05:51 pm
Yes,  he asked to see actual evidence.    I guess that's turning to the dark side around here

I think you know enough about the law to know that she should not hand over evidence to Carlson.  Why do you say things that you know are not true?
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: catfish1957 on November 20, 2020, 03:06:14 pm
Yes,  he asked to see actual evidence.    I guess that's turning to the dark side around here

@Jazzhead

There has been a mountain of evidence presented that has been squelched by Big Tech/MSM.  Which BTW, you conveniently didn't open or comment on the Project Vertias files I provided you.    Imagine that..... 

Problem is quantifying a flood from a million dripping faucets.  Logistics are against Trump.

And dark side?  Giving cover to Biden  is about as disgusting as it gets.  Congrats.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 20, 2020, 03:06:16 pm
I don't think Trump is destroying the GOP.  His formula for attracting working folks and minorities to a message of economic growth and Americanism has reinvigorated the party.    But the man himself is a small-minded megalomamiac.  IMO, of course.
Imagine all of those wonderful policies you say you love sprung from such a small mind.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 20, 2020, 03:09:10 pm
@Jazzhead

There has been a mountain of evidence presented that has been squelched by Big Tech/MSM.  Which BTW, you conveniently didn't open or comment on the Project Vertias files I provided you.    Imagine that..... 

Problem is quantifying a flood from a million dripping faucets.  Logistics are against Trump.

And dark side?  Giving cover to Biden  is about as disgusting as it gets.  Congrats.

Supposedly 90-100% of the evidence presented in successfully prosecuted white collar crime is circumstantial. Anyone blowing off a mountain of circumstantial evidence off while asking for 'actual evidence' already has their mind made up.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: andy58-in-nh on November 20, 2020, 03:09:35 pm
Just got a text that Tucker Carlson flipped to the dark side.  Fox execs get to him?

Not looking good.

Tucker is one of the last honest, and honorable media commentators.

He is just looking for evidence and information with which to validate others' claims. 

So far, the Trump team has given us very little to support their very serious allegations. What they have supplied so far does raise serious questions about the propriety of vote-counting procedures in a couple of key electoral precincts. But that is a far cry from what has been headlined and promised.

Now, it may well be that Trump's attorneys are waiting to prove their case in court, but given the enormous and unprecedented gravity of the charges they are making - the theft of a national election in the world's largest and greatest republican democracy - they had better give us more than what they have offered so far.

Otherwise, people will assume they are not being leveled with.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2020, 03:14:34 pm
I don't think Trump is destroying the GOP.  His formula for attracting working folks and minorities to a message of economic growth and Americanism has reinvigorated the party.    But the man himself is a small-minded megalomamiac.  IMO, of course.

You mean, "In My Ignorant Opinion."
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2020, 03:15:49 pm
Otherwise, people will assume they are not being leveled with.

People who hate him (see posts above) have been claiming that for years.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 20, 2020, 03:15:52 pm
Tucker is one of the last honest, and honorable media commentators.

He is just looking for evidence and information with which to validate others' claims. 

So far, the Trump team has given us very little to support their very serious allegations. What they have supplied so far does raise serious questions about the propriety of vote-counting procedures in a couple of key electoral precincts. But that is a far cry from what has been headlined and promised.

Now, it may well be that Trump's attorneys are waiting to prove their case in court, but given the enormous and unprecedented gravity of the charges they are making - the theft of a national election in the world's largest and greatest republican democracy - they had better give us more than what they have offered so far.

Otherwise, people will assume they are not being leveled with.

Trump's team stated very clearly that yesterday's press conference was intended as an opening statement. Meaning they do not intend to present their case to the media, Tucker included, but instead to offer their proof in court.

Probably a very good idea, because obviously the media feels its their job to publicly discredit anything and everything the team presents on the spot. Why would any prosecutor show his cards in that situation?

Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: catfish1957 on November 20, 2020, 03:18:30 pm
Tucker is one of the last honest, and honorable media commentators.

He is just looking for evidence and information with which to validate others' claims. 

So far, the Trump team has given us very little to support their very serious allegations. What they have supplied so far does raise serious questions about the propriety of vote-counting procedures in a couple of key electoral precincts. But that is a far cry from what has been headlined and promised.

Now, it may well be that Trump's attorneys are waiting to prove their case in court, but given the enormous and unprecedented gravity of the charges they are making - the theft of a national election in the world's largest and greatest republican democracy - they had better give us more than what they have offered so far.

Otherwise, people will assume they are not being leveled with.

Again, I restate my "million dripping faucets" analogy.  Dilute the fraud down, but do it on a massive scale.  Democrats know there is not enough time or resources to cumulatively prove enough to overturn the election. IMO...  (1)  There was massive fraud, too much evidence is there not to refute it. (2)  Was it enough to overturn the results for a Trump victory?  I don't know, and anyone says they know is lying.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 20, 2020, 03:21:12 pm
Again, I restate my "million dripping faucets" analogy.  Dilute the fraud down, but do it on a massive scale.  Democrats know there is not enough time or resources to cumulatively prove enough to overturn the election. IMO...  (1)  There was massive fraud, too much evidence is there not to refute it. (2)  Was it enough to overturn the results for a Trump victory?  I don't know, and anyone says they know is lying.

I'm convinced there was enough fraud to overturn what should've been a Trump win, and am not lying. But can it be proven? I have no idea.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: sneakypete on November 20, 2020, 03:23:11 pm
Tucker is one of the last honest, and honorable media commentators.

He is just looking for evidence and information with which to validate others' claims. 

So far, the Trump team has given us very little to support their very serious allegations.



@andy58-in-nh

That's how it works. You make allegations to get an investigation going,and once you discover provable FACTS,you can go on to filing criminal charges.

Even facts are not "facts" until they have been proven to be true in court,but you will never get to court without making allegations that need to be investigated.

It's the old "putting the cart in front of the horse" thing.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2020, 03:24:19 pm
Tucker is one of the last honest, and honorable media commentators.

He is just looking for evidence and information with which to validate others' claims. 

So far, the Trump team has given us very little to support their very serious allegations. What they have supplied so far does raise serious questions about the propriety of vote-counting procedures in a couple of key electoral precincts. But that is a far cry from what has been headlined and promised.

Now, it may well be that Trump's attorneys are waiting to prove their case in court, but given the enormous and unprecedented gravity of the charges they are making - the theft of a national election in the world's largest and greatest republican democracy - they had better give us more than what they have offered so far.

Otherwise, people will assume they are not being leveled with.

Sorry @andy58-in-nh but IMHO Tucker is just doing what he is required to do in order to keep getting those fat paychecks.  He knows damned well why evidence cannot and should not be presented on his TV show.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: catfish1957 on November 20, 2020, 03:25:17 pm
I'm convinced there was enough fraud to overturn what should've been a Trump win, and am not lying. But can it be proven? I have no idea.

Disagree, just for  S & G's earlier in the week, I looked at Trump camp numerical claims, and he still comes up short. 
Before it can even be proven, there has to be the numbers to back it up.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2020, 03:26:30 pm
I'm convinced there was enough fraud to overturn what should've been a Trump win, and am not lying. But can it be proven? I have no idea.

I'm pretty damned sure we are going to find out!  And I do not believe Trump's lawyers would put their reputations on the line by saying things that cannot prove in courts of law.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: catfish1957 on November 20, 2020, 03:28:54 pm
Sorry @andy58-in-nh but IMHO Tucker is just doing what he is required to do in order to keep getting those fat paychecks.  He knows damned well why evidence cannot and should not be presented on his TV show.

OTOH, he probably alienated at least half of his base viewers last night.  Tucker's power and standing in Fox is just as strong as his ratings.  Watch what Fox does if he starts pulling in Morning Joe numbers.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2020, 03:28:59 pm
Disagree, just for  S & G's earlier in the week, I looked at Trump camp numerical claims, and he still comes up short. 
Before it can even be proven, there has to be the numbers to back it up.

Did you take the systemic cheating built into the system into account when you did that calculation?
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: catfish1957 on November 20, 2020, 03:31:20 pm
Did you take the systemic cheating built into the system into account when you did that calculation?

I went with the hard core numbers the Trump camp claims.  Have these "systemic" issues been quanitifed yet?  Not sure on that one.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 20, 2020, 03:31:23 pm
Disagree, just for  S & G's earlier in the week, I looked at Trump camp numerical claims, and he still comes up short. 
Before it can even be proven, there has to be the numbers to back it up.

Numerical claims, as in the anecdotal instances of 'found' ballots? I'm considering the highly unlikely statistical patterns in battleground states and scope of fraud made possible by the equipment used for tabulation.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: catfish1957 on November 20, 2020, 03:36:57 pm
Numerical claims, as in the anecdotal instances of 'found' ballots? I'm considering the highly unlikely statistical patterns in battleground states and scope of fraud made possible by the equipment used for tabulation.

Much like in Bigun's comment, I am sure there are phantom areas of fraud.  But until, we get some iron clad quantification, it is sadly....  the numbers are what they are.  Hopefully, the Trump camp has some more cards to play, but all I know is that when this goes to court, the judges are going to look a full quantifiable cases of fraud, or mistakes.....   Not systemic problems or glitches that may or may not have impacted the numbers.  Not trying to be a doom and gloomer on this matter, just trying to keep the perspective that solid numbers are the only thing that matters or dictates the results from an impartial judge.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2020, 03:37:59 pm
I went with the hard core numbers the Trump camp claims.  Have these "systemic" issues been quanitifed yet?  Not sure on that one.

In yesterday's presser Sidney Powell mentioned that one actual vote for Trump was translated as .75 of a vote and an actual vote for Biden was translated to 1.25 votes IIRC.  I do not know if those are actual or she was just making an analogy. @catfish1957

Whatever the actual programmed in algorithm was, Trump was overwhelming it and that is why they had to stop counting simultaneously in those five or six states.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2020, 03:41:19 pm
Much like in Bigun's comment, I am sure there are phantom areas of fraud.  But until, we get some iron clad quantification, it is sadly....  the numbers are what they are.  Hopefully, the Trump camp has some more cards to play, but all I know is that when this goes to court, the judges are going to look a full quantifiable cases of fraud, or mistakes.....   Not systemic problems or glitches that may or may not have impacted the numbers.  Not trying to be a doom and gloomer on this matter, just trying to keep the perspective that solid numbers are the only thing that matters or dictates the results from an impartial judge.

IMHO they are going to prove that the Smartmatic (Dominion) problems were/are systemic and effected the election outcomes everywhere they were used rather than just in the swing states.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 20, 2020, 03:43:04 pm
Much like in Bigun's comment, I am sure there are phantom areas of fraud.  But until, we get some iron clad quantification, it is sadly....  the numbers are what they are.  Hopefully, the Trump camp has some more cards to play, but all I know is that when this goes to court, the judges are going to look a full quantifiable cases of fraud, or mistakes.....   Not systemic problems or glitches that may or may not have impacted the numbers.  Not trying to be a doom and gloomer on this matter, just trying to keep the perspective that solid numbers are the only thing that matters or dictates the results from an impartial judge.

I understand.

But it would be a tragedy of epic proportions if Trump's team were to show how the Doiminion tabulating machines and Smartmatic software are easily hackable and offer as a feature the ability to manipulate the vote, which was tabulated overseas, together with the statistically impossible trends and totals from the 11/3 election, as well as hundreds of affidavits and a thousand individual instances of fraud, and have SCOTUS say 'no solid proof, sorry'.

The fate of the nation really does hang in the balance.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: catfish1957 on November 20, 2020, 03:43:30 pm
In yesterday's presser Sidney Powell mentioned that one actual vote for Trump was translated as .75 of a vote and an actual vote for Biden was translated to 1.25 votes IIRC.  I do not know if those are actual or she was just making an analogy. @catfish1957

Whatever the actual programmed in algorithm was, Trump was overwhelming it and that is why they had to stop counting simultaneously in those five or six states.

It would be wonderful if we found out that the DNC/DHS/FBI and the rest of the Swampy alphabets were behind a collusion to throw this election. I know something fishy happened early Wednesday morning that completly reversed the direction and momentum of the tally.  Will the dots be connectable before election certification deadlines?  Not a chance.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: catfish1957 on November 20, 2020, 03:46:56 pm
IMHO they are going to prove that the Smartmatic (Dominion) problems were/are systemic and effected the election outcomes everywhere they were used rather than just in the swing states.

Not only are they going to have to prove it, they are going to have to prove it at warp speed.  We are in the 3rd week of November, and state election certifications are looming.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: skeeter on November 20, 2020, 03:49:28 pm
Not only are they going to have to prove it, they are going to have to prove it at warp speed.  We are in the 3rd week of November, and state election certifications are looming.

Perhaps they can create enough doubt in the minds of the battleground state legislatures.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2020, 03:50:50 pm
It would be wonderful if we found out that the DNC/DHS/FBI and the rest of the Swampy alphabets were behind a collusion to throw this election. I know something fishy happened early Wednesday morning that completly reversed the direction and momentum of the tally.  Will the dots be connectable before election certification deadlines?  Not a chance.

And that is where you and I disagree @catfish1957
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: catfish1957 on November 20, 2020, 03:55:53 pm
And that is where you and I disagree @catfish1957

Here's to the 99.99% of the time we do agree.   :beer:
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2020, 03:56:56 pm
Here's to the 99.99% of the time we do agree.   :beer:

Right back attcha!  :beer:
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: rustynail on November 20, 2020, 04:01:10 pm
Exclusive video: Trump meets with his attorneys

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XCot_esni0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XCot_esni0#)
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Restored on November 20, 2020, 04:09:54 pm
The media is not ever going to admit that the Democrats are guilty of throwing a Presidential election. It would be grounds for a revolution. My Democrat friends knew what was going to happen. Some of them ordered ballots then walked into the early voting precinct and turned them in. They could have just walked in and voted but they insisted on ordering a ballot. They wanted a massive number of ballots to count later when they knew how many they needed to win. So they asked all Democrats to order ballots to cover what they were going to do.

The media and the Democrats need for this story to go away. Now. But they can't control what Trump does. Worse yet, I believe the public knows the election was thrown. A sitting President lost the election to an old man with Dementia. Really?
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2020, 04:30:07 pm
Here's to the 99.99% of the time we do agree.   :beer:
Right back attcha!  :beer:

All y'all have a better survival rate than the bogus COVID.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2020, 04:37:23 pm
All y'all have a better survival rate than the bogus COVID.

Only slightly better @Cyber Liberty  :laugh:
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Hoodat on November 20, 2020, 04:39:11 pm
Exclusive video: Trump meets with his attorneys

Somebody set up us the bomb.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: rustynail on November 20, 2020, 04:51:26 pm
Somebody set up us the bomb.

They did and I hope Trump releases all Zig. (declassify)
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2020, 04:53:30 pm
They did and I hope Trump releases all Zig. (declassify)

He already has and the swamp critters have refused to comply.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2020, 05:13:27 pm
He already has and the swamp critters have refused to comply.

As I suspected, and by the time this is over All Their Base Are Belong To Us!

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQE66WA2s-A&feature=youtu.be#)
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: bigheadfred on November 21, 2020, 12:28:56 am
As I suspected, and by the time this is over All Their Base Are Belong To Us!

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQE66WA2s-A&feature=youtu.be#)

Follower...teehee
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Fishrrman on November 21, 2020, 12:32:16 am
skeeter wrote:
"Trump's team stated very clearly that yesterday's press conference was intended as an opening statement. Meaning they do not intend to present their case to the media, Tucker included, but instead to offer their proof in court."

Well they better start talkin' and movin' fast.
At least faster than they have so far.
They've got 2 weeks and 4 days until December 8th, when "the clock runs out".

I'd like to see our side win, but there's simply not enough time left.
(I hope I'm proven wrong)
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: bigheadfred on November 21, 2020, 01:52:00 am
Trump has been seating federal judges for four years. And how many Supremes?

Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 21, 2020, 02:04:36 am
Trump has been seating federal judges for four years. And how many Supremes?

"Random Selection" of Judges always seem to end up in front of Judges nominated by O'Bastard or Clinton?  A couple of Trump Judges have showed their asses in recent days as well.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: corbe on November 21, 2020, 02:06:28 am
    I agree with @FeelNoPain in that anyone who ever thought Trump would walk away graciously from this 2020 CF obviously doesn't know the Man.   Hell he'll probably outlive Keith Richards, he already beat the Rona and the Romney.

(https://i.imgflip.com/3srzow.jpg)
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: bigheadfred on November 21, 2020, 02:06:56 am
"Random Selection" of Judges always seem to end up in front of Judges nominated by O'Bastard or Clinton?  A couple of Trump Judges have showed their asses in recent days as well.

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Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: bigheadfred on November 21, 2020, 02:10:20 am
    I agree with @FeelNoPain in that anyone who ever thought Trump would walk away graciously from this 2020 CF obviously doesn't know the Man.   Hell he'll probably outlive Keith Richards, he already beat the Rona and the Romney.

(https://i.imgflip.com/3srzow.jpg)

From the official officials of the office of redundidthat already.
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: corbe on November 21, 2020, 02:13:31 am
    Brief Commercial Pause.

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e8e796aadb6e763b5d33d17550997882a201e4ca9d1d9fa9e0cfb3e6f2a4d0ef.jpg)
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 21, 2020, 02:53:21 am
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Another great point!
Title: Re: Who wants Trump to concede?
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 21, 2020, 06:02:17 am
I don't think you understand. That news doesn't exist. That story never happened. You are guilty of noticing things that aren't for noticing. Anyone who believes that is a QAnon and QAnons are "dangerous". Remember, Biden won't have a trace of Dementia until it is time to have it.

When the House started talking about QAnon, my first thought was "Why are they even talking about this?" Then it hit me. QAnon is the strawman. Qanon is Anthony Fremont's Corn Field. That's where the bad stories will go.
Funny thing about that video, it's up on fecebook and has not been branded false by the fackcheckers. I don't think they want to call any attention to it.