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Title: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: mystery-ak on January 09, 2021, 02:51:09 pm
Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
by Rob Crilly, White House Correspondent |
 | January 09, 2021 06:30 AM

President Trump’s exit strategy was clear: Cast doubt on the election result before retiring to his Florida estate to embark on a new chapter as Republican power broker and media star while teasing a triumphant return to office in 2024.

But the violent attack on the United States Capitol and Trump’s role in denying Joe Biden’s election victory have destroyed his chances of running for president again, according to Trumpworld insiders.

The ugly scenes have already had an impact on fundraising. The Trump campaign has not issued an email appeal for cash since 1 p.m. on Wednesday, shortly before the president’s supporters battered their way inside the Capitol building.

“2024 was always a long shot. Now, he’s toast,” said a former campaign adviser.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/politics/donald-trump-2024-slipping-away (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/politics/donald-trump-2024-slipping-away)
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Ghost Bear on January 09, 2021, 03:52:51 pm
Sounds like they've got him this time.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Fishrrman on January 10, 2021, 12:14:35 am
Trump hat, 2024:
FIGHT ON !!
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Hoodat on January 10, 2021, 12:17:10 am
Sounds like they've got him this time.

Sounds like they planned the whole thing out with the intent of destroying his 2024 chances.  The Dems are certainly afraid of Donald Trump.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Ghost Bear on January 10, 2021, 12:21:01 am
Sounds like they planned the whole thing out with the intent of destroying his 2024 chances.  The Dems are certainly afraid of Donald Trump.

Somebody's afraid of him, for sure. They are going to extraordinary lengths to try to get rid of him.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Jazzhead on January 10, 2021, 12:21:30 am
Sounds like they planned the whole thing out with the intent of destroying his 2024 chances.  The Dems are certainly afraid of Donald Trump.

Stop whining and make lemons out of lemonade.   A pro-American agenda under new, saner leadership. 
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 10, 2021, 12:22:58 am
Stop whining and make lemons out of lemonade.   A pro-American agenda under new, saner leadership.
It'd be nice, but let's face it: how is that message going to be disseminated when all the methods of communication are controlled by the left?
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Jazzhead on January 10, 2021, 12:30:03 am
It'd be nice, but let's face it: how is that message going to be disseminated when all the methods of communication are controlled by the left?

I am not proposing a strategy that requires Democratic consent.   Trumpsters are screaming at their natural allies.   I am proposing that folks divorce the man from the movement as the best way to save it.   
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: libertybele on January 10, 2021, 12:30:17 am
It'd be nice, but let's face it: how is that message going to be disseminated when all the methods of communication are controlled by the left?

Exactly. 

As far as saner leadership?  Last time I checked our SANE President stood for American exceptionalism, American values, American pride, American's first and Keeping America Great.  Anyone that sees that as insane, quite frankly has a screw or two loose.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: libertybele on January 10, 2021, 12:43:08 am
I am not proposing a strategy that requires Democratic consent.   Trumpsters are screaming at their natural allies.   I am proposing that folks divorce the man from the movement as the best way to save it.

You just don't get it at all.  Trump isn't the movement the PEOPLE are the movement! President Trump is/was the voice of the people. He stood up against the RINO and Democrat scum and revealed the DC cesspool.

President Trump was never the problem, the DC swamp, the corrupt DOJ, the deception and the game of smoke and mirrors on both sides of the aisle have been and still are the problem!

For crying out loud I was never an avid Trump supporter, but I am standing up for what right he has done. You have to be dumb or blind or both not to see what has happened.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Victoria33 on January 10, 2021, 12:48:17 am
I am not proposing a strategy that requires Democratic consent.   Trumpsters are screaming at their natural allies.   I am proposing that folks divorce the man from the movement as the best way to save it.
@Jazzhead

You are thinking logically - build on the good and make it bigger and better.  That is Republicanism.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Jazzhead on January 10, 2021, 01:13:49 am
@Jazzhead

You are thinking logically - build on the good and make it bigger and better.  That is Republicanism.

Thanks  @Victoria33 .     
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Jazzhead on January 10, 2021, 01:17:15 am
You just don't get it at all.  Trump isn't the movement the PEOPLE are the movement! President Trump is/was the voice of the people. He stood up against the RINO and Democrat scum and revealed the DC cesspool.

President Trump was never the problem, the DC swamp, the corrupt DOJ, the deception and the game of smoke and mirrors on both sides of the aisle have been and still are the problem!

For crying out loud I was never an avid Trump supporter, but I am standing up for what right he has done. You have to be dumb or blind or both not to see what has happened.

I am not standing against the right he has done,  @libertybele .  I am realistic enough to realize the man is toast.   Whether his movement will survive will require some sort of reconciliation among Republicans. 
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 10, 2021, 01:37:53 am
I am not proposing a strategy that requires Democratic consent.   Trumpsters are screaming at their natural allies.   I am proposing that folks divorce the man from the movement as the best way to save it.
I get that... but let's face it: so much of the movement IS the man that I'm not sure that's possible.

A candidate running on the MAGA agenda would still need to be insanely rich and famous, like Trump, to gain the kind of traction Trump did—and wealth and fame are not exactly correlated with sanity. Trump won because 1) the base honestly believed that a guy they recognized as rich, famous and powerful actually cared about the issues they've been begging about for years but every politician in power has ignored or discounted; and 2) everyone they don't like or trust hates him, so he can't be all that bad, right?
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: libertybele on January 10, 2021, 01:42:27 am
I am not standing against the right he has done,  @libertybele .  I am realistic enough to realize the man is toast.   Whether his movement will survive will require some sort of reconciliation among Republicans.

I don't ever recall Trump saying anything about running in 2024.  He'll be 78 for heavens sake and he doesn't need the headaches.   Trump ever running in 2024 I think is wishful thinking by some of his supporters, nothing more.  Also -- read again what I stated -- the movement is the PEOPLE not Trump.

The GOP is dead.  Thinking that somehow that we'll be voting for any GOP politician and that they would get seated is a dream.  It's not going to happen.  I will NEVER vote for a Republican anyways.

I could care less about the Republicans. I care above Conservatism and above all we need to figure out how to save this country. 
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: christian on January 10, 2021, 02:05:29 am
Quote
Jazzy:
Stop whining and make lemons out of lemonade.   A pro-American agenda under new, saner leadership.


christian:
How generous for you to give blanche check approval, of Biden.  One of the best announcements of a fools endeavors i ever heard.  You advice of Trump seems to always pretend you have no ulterior motives.  You motives always lean towards hate Trump, and Trump should do what is worst for him.  Obviously you are far more transparent than you realize.  Trump can make great decisions, doing the opposite of whatever your advice is.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: mountaineer on January 10, 2021, 02:10:10 am
I never believed he was interested in 2024. Fake news?
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Hoodat on January 10, 2021, 03:53:03 am
I am proposing that folks divorce the man from the movement as the best way to save it.

I am proposing that people stop telling lies about Trump and address the election fraud instead.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: skeeter on January 10, 2021, 04:06:47 am
I am proposing that people stop telling lies about Trump and address the election fraud instead.
Imagine if they would set aside their Trump hate long enough to get on board with the election fraud stuff. We might generate enough heat to finally address the long-standing rat tradition of voter fraud every election. Who knows, we might even end up with voter ID.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Mesaclone on January 10, 2021, 04:09:55 am
I am not standing against the right he has done,  @libertybele .  I am realistic enough to realize the man is toast.   Whether his movement will survive will require some sort of reconciliation among Republicans.

You should accept this one fact: In 2024 the conservative candidate for President will either be Donald Trump, or it will be someone he has endorsed to run on the issues he has championed. If he does not run, my guess is that he will act strongly in support of a man like Ted Cruz...but that's just a guess. Anyone who has been a NeverTrumper, Lincoln Republican or who has close ties to the Bush/Romney wing need not apply. I don't know if President Trump will choose to run in 2024, though I suspect he will.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 10, 2021, 04:10:56 am
I never believed he was interested in 2024. Fake news?
Nah, I think he is. Remember, he once tweeted this:

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9xHPnSi1sI#)
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Hoodat on January 10, 2021, 04:13:44 am
Imagine if they would set aside their Trump hate long enough to get on board with the election fraud stuff.

Sadly, they are all on board with the election fraud since it helped get rid of Trump, which to them is more important than beating the Democrats.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: catfish1957 on January 10, 2021, 05:21:35 am
I've supported Trump during this ordeal, but hopefully he will take a nice retirement, and let a younger voice with a similar message carry the banner.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: FeelNoPain on January 10, 2021, 05:46:11 am
I get that... but let's face it: so much of the movement IS the man that I'm not sure that's possible.

A candidate running on the MAGA agenda would still need to be insanely rich and famous, like Trump, to gain the kind of traction Trump did—and wealth and fame are not exactly correlated with sanity. Trump won because 1) the base honestly believed that a guy they recognized as rich, famous and powerful actually cared about the issues they've been begging about for years but every politician in power has ignored or discounted; and 2) everyone they don't like or trust hates him, so he can't be all that bad, right?
:bingo: pointing-up

This is also why I am laughing at Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley beclowning themselves trying to jockey for position to grab the torch of the movement. There is no "next in line" because there is no one else on the planet who can pull off being Trump other than Trump.

Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: sneakypete on January 10, 2021, 11:21:57 am
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Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers[/quote


You would think out of a whole crowd of "advisors" that SOME of them would have names,wouldn't you?

If there is anyone on TBR that voted for Trump in 2020 who would refuse to ever vote for him again,would you please  identify yourself?

I have been voting in Presidential elections since the early 60's,and the only Presidential candidate I can think of that would rate up there with Trump when it comes to "Would you vote for him again?" would be Barry Goldwater.

PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE,if cloning ever becomes possible,PLEASE put Barry Goldwater at the top of the list!
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: sneakypete on January 10, 2021, 11:23:36 am
Stop whining and make lemons out of lemonade.   A pro-American agenda under new, saner leadership.

@Jazzhead

No doubt you mean someone like Boy Jorge or JEB Bush.

Or maybe Mittens?
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: mountaineer on January 10, 2021, 01:34:02 pm
That's it, a Mitt/Jeb! ticket.
 :2barf:
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 10, 2021, 02:10:10 pm
Sounds like they planned the whole thing out with the intent of destroying his 2024 chances.  The Dems are certainly afraid of Donald Trump.

The more this election and aftermath play out the more I agree with you @Hoodat  Whoever pulled off this theft did a damn good job of planning, organization, implementation, coordination -- since at least 2018.   We can be sure the leaders weren't Joe Biden or Kamala Harris...or even Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer or Barack Obama.   To their credit, the actual puppeteers have done an even better job of protecting their identities.

But Donald Trump, I strongly suspect, knows who has just stolen our country.  In a matter of days he will be unleashed from an AG and Republican caucus misadvising him, a pandemic, a reelection.  All the puppeteers know for certain is Donald Trump, with or without Twitter, is not going quietly into the dark night  --  and he's taking tens of millions of Americans with him.  He must be neutralized, completely neutralized.

I truly fear for his safety and freedom.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 10, 2021, 02:12:06 pm
I never believed he was interested in 2024. Fake news?

I think Trump's very interested in 2022 and 2024 @mountaineer  --- Just not as a candidate.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 10, 2021, 02:13:35 pm
@Jazzhead

No doubt you mean someone like Boy Jorge or JEB Bush.

Or maybe Mittens?

Or one of the boys from his Lincoln Project @sneakypete   
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 10, 2021, 02:35:04 pm
(https://i.postimg.cc/13cnmXY2/Purge-Trumpers-01.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: catfish1957 on January 10, 2021, 02:37:44 pm
(https://i.postimg.cc/13cnmXY2/Purge-Trumpers-01.jpg)

Thank God for Screen Shots....   they live forever.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Hoodat on January 10, 2021, 02:45:58 pm
Thank God for Screen Shots....   they live forever.

That will change.  Big Tech will find a way to delete those as well.

He who controls the past controls the present.  He who controls the present controls the future.

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
Democrats are Patriots
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: catfish1957 on January 10, 2021, 03:06:06 pm
That will change.  Big Tech will find a way to delete those as well.



That's a lot hard drives, and backups to wipe out. 
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Hoodat on January 10, 2021, 04:25:13 pm
That's a lot hard drives, and backups to wipe out.

They will simply write some code to do it for them.  They are already turning your camera and microphone on without you knowing it.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on January 10, 2021, 04:34:33 pm
They will simply write some code to do it for them.  They are already turning your camera and microphone on without you knowing it.

I’m pretty sure that actually deleting your date is illegal
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: dfwgator on January 10, 2021, 04:40:04 pm
Stop whining and make lemons out of lemonade.   A pro-American agenda under new, saner leadership.

Who will be willing to do it?  Really?   You make it sound like it's a done deal.  Until proven otherwise, right now it's still Trump.  Maybe DeSantis, I have high hopes for him, but we shall see what he does.  Outside of that, I don't see anyone on the horizon.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Hoodat on January 10, 2021, 04:41:02 pm
I’m pretty sure that actually deleting your date is illegal

Did you not see what just happened in this last election?  Following the law is the last thing on these people's minds.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Hoodat on January 10, 2021, 04:41:45 pm
Who will be willing to do it?  Really?   You make it sound like it's a done deal.  Until proven otherwise, right now it's still Trump.  Maybe DeSantis, I have high hopes for him, but we shall see what he does.  Outside of that, I don't see anyone on the horizon.

I can easily get on the DeSantis train.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: dfwgator on January 10, 2021, 04:44:12 pm
Stop whining and make lemons out of lemonade.   A pro-American agenda under new, saner leadership.

Your views of Trump were mostly a product of the very people who are now censoring dissent in America.   They painted that picture of Trump and you bought into it.   

 
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: sneakypete on January 10, 2021, 07:21:15 pm
I’m pretty sure that actually deleting your date is illegal

@Weird Tolkienish Figure

ROFLMAO!

I had no idea you have a sense of humor! Good for you!
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Absalom on January 10, 2021, 07:36:44 pm
I am not proposing a strategy that requires Democratic consent.   Trumpsters are screaming at their natural allies. I am proposing folks divorce the man from the movement as the best way to save it.
----------------------------
Precisely what voters did in 2020 for the House and Senate;
despite the Georgia losses which Trump caused w/his big mouth.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Hoodat on January 10, 2021, 07:43:23 pm
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Precisely what voters did in 2020 for the House and Senate;
despite the Georgia losses which Trump caused w/his big mouth.

Perdue with Trump on the ticket:  2,462,217

Perdue without Trump on the ticket:  2,211,865
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 10, 2021, 08:59:45 pm
Perdue with Trump on the ticket:  2,462,217

Perdue without Trump on the ticket:  2,211,865
But turnout always goes up in presidential elections on both sides.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Hoodat on January 10, 2021, 09:18:31 pm
The thing that doomed Perdue and Loeffler is that they stayed silent on the sidelines while all this fraud and law violations were being uncovered.  It was their abandonment of Trump that cost them, not Trump's support of them.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: libertybele on January 10, 2021, 09:27:56 pm
That's it, a Mitt/Jeb! ticket.
 :2barf:

I think Bushy suffered to much humiliation to ever run again.

As far as Mittens, he'd be stupid enough to run again and probably with Ryan. Lyin' Ryan has been in the news lately.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Jazzhead on January 10, 2021, 09:28:54 pm
The thing that doomed Perdue and Loeffler is that they stayed silent on the sidelines while all this fraud and law violations were being uncovered.  It was their abandonment of Trump that cost them, not Trump's support of them.

IMO they lost in part because they never tried to make the sale - why we're better off with divided government to check extremism.   Instead that message was drowned out by Trump's folly,   and as for their own messaging, it was was almost 100% negative.   Newt recently put out a quality piece on the mistakes the GOP made in Georgia.     In short, this was an avoidable catastrophe.   
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: The_Reader_David on January 10, 2021, 10:12:34 pm
Perdue with Trump on the ticket:  2,462,217

Perdue without Trump on the ticket with Trump and his surrogates telling people not to vote because the election is rigged2,211,865

There, fixed that for your.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: skeeter on January 10, 2021, 10:15:10 pm
There, fixed that for your.
That just flat didn't happen.

Shame shame.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 10, 2021, 10:17:23 pm
The thing that doomed Perdue and Loeffler is that they stayed silent on the sidelines while all this fraud and law violations were being uncovered.  It was their abandonment of Trump that cost them, not Trump's support of them.
Perdue was quarantined for the last two weeks of the campaign. Talk about election interference!
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: truth_seeker on January 10, 2021, 10:50:27 pm
That's it, a Mitt/Jeb! ticket.
 :2barf:
Don't forget about Kasich and Flake.

Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Hoodat on January 10, 2021, 11:28:37 pm
There, fixed that for your.

Got a quote on that?  Any quote where anyone specifically instructed Georgians not to vote.


Didn't think so.  Same old lies keep getting told in here.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Hoodat on January 10, 2021, 11:32:21 pm
Newt recently put out a quality piece on the mistakes the GOP made in Georgia.

What would Noot know about Georgia?  He's been living inside the Beltway since 1979.


In short, this was an avoidable catastrophe.   

Of course it was avoidable.  If Georgia election laws had simply been followed, there wouldn't have been a runoff.

Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Fishrrman on January 10, 2021, 11:45:29 pm
RinVa observed:
"We can be sure the leaders weren't Joe Biden or Kamala Harris...or even Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer or Barack Obama.   To their credit, the actual puppeteers have done an even better job of protecting their identities."

One more time I'll request, please read this:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,419614.msg2325876.html#msg2325876 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,419614.msg2325876.html#msg2325876)
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: GtHawk on January 11, 2021, 12:51:34 am
They will simply write some code to do it for them.  They are already turning your camera and microphone on without you knowing it.
No camera or mic on my desktop, and the laptop's camera is taped over but their more than welcome to listen to me fart and bitch at all the stupid ads when I watch TV.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: libertybele on January 11, 2021, 12:55:43 am
No camera or mic on my desktop, and the laptop's camera is taped over but their more than welcome to listen to me fart and bitch at all the stupid ads when I watch TV.

I don't have a camera or mic on my desktop either.  I got a notebook for xmas -- not sure about the camera/mic on it.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Hoodat on January 11, 2021, 01:07:28 am
No camera or mic on my desktop, and the laptop's camera is taped over but their more than welcome to listen to me fart and bitch at all the stupid ads when I watch TV.

They're watching you through your TV, too.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: dfwgator on January 11, 2021, 01:21:25 am
They're watching you through your TV, too.

In Soviet America, Television Watches You!
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: DCPatriot on January 11, 2021, 01:40:34 am
I'm seeing these memes involving Pelosi's son with Hunter Biden floating around.

It would make sense that Nancy want's him gone yesterday.

They're also afraid of what Pres. Trump might declassify.   It would definitely give him the 'last laugh', designed to send many high profile people scurrying.

Why else this insane frenzy to destroy the man's public persona...ignoring 75+ million voters in the process?

...with less than two weeks until Inauguration Day??    :shrug:
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: dfwgator on January 11, 2021, 01:46:28 am
I'm seeing these memes involving Pelosi's son with Hunter Biden floating around.

It would make sense that Nancy want's him gone yesterday.

They're also afraid of what Pres. Trump might declassify.   It would definitely give him the 'last laugh', designed to send many high profile people scurrying.

Why else this insane frenzy to destroy the man's public persona...ignoring 75+ million voters in the process?

...with less than two weeks until Inauguration Day??    :shrug:

My worry is that they will dispose of Joe, and blame it on Trump and his supporters.   That's when s gets real.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: sneakypete on January 11, 2021, 01:55:39 am
My worry is that they will dispose of Joe, and blame it on Trump and his supporters.   That's when s gets real.

@dfwgator

I am pretty sure that is a given,but IMHO,he will resign for (mental) health issues within 6 months of being sworn in. The Dims are counting on President Harris to pull  in the non-white vote in 2024.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: XenaLee on January 11, 2021, 01:59:33 am
My worry is that they will dispose of Joe, and blame it on Trump and his supporters.   That's when s gets real.

That would be yet another twofer.   And you know how the left loves those.   Very valid concern.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: GtHawk on January 11, 2021, 02:37:25 am
They're watching you through your TV, too.
Not on my TV it isn't connected to anything but a Roku. Now those who have smart TV's?
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 11, 2021, 05:47:42 am
...
They're also afraid of what Pres. Trump might declassify.   It would definitely give him the 'last laugh', designed to send many high profile people scurrying.

Why else this insane frenzy to destroy the man's public persona...ignoring 75+ million voters in the process?

...with less than two weeks until Inauguration Day??    :shrug:


@DCPatriot   They're afraid of us, too.

Quote
Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_


DEVELOPING: Democrats in both the House and Senate are planning to draft legislation to classify MAGA rallies as "domestic terrorist activity" and require the FBI, DOJ & DHS to take steps to prevent such "domestic terrorism." Sen. Durbin is leading effort along with Rep Schneider


11:33 PM · Jan 10, 2021·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1348488262210498560
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: dancer on January 11, 2021, 05:23:48 pm
Don't forget about Kasich and Flake.
ACK!  That's a barf combo.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Fishrrman on January 12, 2021, 01:58:17 am
Title and presumption:
"Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers..."

He'll have my vote.
I'll make that commitment right now.
How's that hit ya...?
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: BassWrangler on January 12, 2021, 02:04:13 am
I've supported Trump during this ordeal, but hopefully he will take a nice retirement, and let a younger voice with a similar message carry the banner.

One with better impulse control.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: sneakypete on January 12, 2021, 02:10:35 am
One with better impulse control.

@BassWrangler

Boy Jorge had better impulse control. Look at how wonderfully THAT worked for America.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: dfwgator on January 12, 2021, 03:02:43 am
One with better impulse control.

Wake me when you find one.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: BassWrangler on January 12, 2021, 03:04:44 am
@BassWrangler

Boy Jorge had better impulse control. Look at how wonderfully THAT worked for America.

I was thinking Ron DeSantis and/or Kristi Noem. I like Trump Jr., as well, but am unsure whether the Trump name would be a positive or a negative in four years.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: BassWrangler on January 12, 2021, 03:05:58 am
Wake me when you find one.

I named three in the post above.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: christian on January 12, 2021, 03:13:32 am
As Trump awash in a world of hate America ultra-rich, media, radio, tv, newspapers and fanatical socialist degenerates we have pervs legitimized, murderers legitimized, cults legitimized, foreigners that come here and blow-up murder, rape, enslave whom they can, with God ushered out like a derelict bum.  Yeah we need to demand God send us better than Trump, we think we deserve so much better......Like Biden and the democrat party.  Call on cops when you need one, after you have run them off, same with God.  Call often, it might be a long time before you get through.  When God shows up, you might fear how angry he is.
 :smokin:
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: libertybele on January 12, 2021, 03:33:21 am
I was thinking Ron DeSantis and/or Kristi Noem. I like Trump Jr., as well, but am unsure whether the Trump name would be a positive or a negative in four years.

Let's think about this...4 years of complete Dem control and another election?
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: libertybele on January 12, 2021, 03:34:26 am
As Trump awash in a world of hate America ultra-rich, media, radio, tv, newspapers and fanatical socialist degenerates we have pervs legitimized, murderers legitimized, cults legitimized, foreigners that come here and blow-up murder, rape, enslave whom they can, with God ushered out like a derelict bum.  Yeah we need to demand God send us better than Trump, we think we deserve so much better......Like Biden and the democrat party.  Call on cops when you need one, after you have run them off, same with God.  Call often, it might be a long time before you get through.  When God shows up, you might fear how angry he is.
 :smokin:

 :amen:
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Freedom2020 on January 12, 2021, 04:23:54 am
The whole news makes no sense.

The question is no longer whether Trump has a chance or not.  The question is: is a truly patriotic and conservative president allowed in the United States? And the answer is: no.

The fraud was evident and as I saw a supporter of Trump saying, "all the institutions that were supposed to protect the American people have betrayed the people... the Congress, the press, the Justice, the Supreme Court, the VP. They all betrayed the people.

It was not the Democrats and the press who betrayed the people, the whole establishment, they all denied Trump his second term.  The Democrats only operated the fraud, but the whole elite was complicit, especially the Supreme Court. The fraud was gigantic in the swing states with abundant evidence, that is, the American people were brazenly robbed.

It doesn't matter if the people vote for it or not, it doesn't matter if it has 90 million votes in the future. The machines will show something else. America has become a leftist banana republic and will soon become a communist dictatorship. Faster than any stolen voter who peacefully accepted the biggest electoral fraud in the history of the planet, it can wait.

Meanwhile, China is bringing its tentacles even closer to American politicians. Oops.... doesn't even need to, the next American president is already a "friend of China".

Sad...
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: BassWrangler on January 12, 2021, 04:29:30 am
Let's think about this...4 years of complete Dem control and another election?

Yes, let's think about it. 4 years of Dem controlled media blaming every problem they can’t hide on Trump. No counter because they have a lock on both social and traditional media.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 12, 2021, 04:30:34 am
The whole news makes no sense.

The question is no longer whether Trump has a chance or not.  The question is: is a truly patriotic and conservative president allowed in the United States? And the answer is: no.

The fraud was evident and as I saw a supporter of Trump saying, "all the institutions that were supposed to protect the American people have betrayed the people... the Congress, the press, the Justice, the Supreme Court, the VP. They all betrayed the people.

It was not the Democrats and the press who betrayed the people, the whole establishment, they all denied Trump his second term.  The Democrats only operated the fraud, but the whole elite was complicit, especially the Supreme Court. The fraud was gigantic in the swing states with abundant evidence, that is, the American people were brazenly robbed.

It doesn't matter if the people vote for it or not, it doesn't matter if it has 90 million votes in the future. The machines will show something else. America has become a leftist banana republic and will soon become a communist dictatorship. Faster than any stolen voter who peacefully accepted the biggest electoral fraud in the history of the planet, it can wait.

Meanwhile, China is bringing its tentacles even closer to American politicians. Oops.... doesn't even need to, the next American president is already a "friend of China".

Sad...

Excellent post @Freedom2020  --- And welcome to TBR   :beer:
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: catfish1957 on January 12, 2021, 04:47:51 am
The whole news makes no sense.

The question is no longer whether Trump has a chance or not.  The question is: is a truly patriotic and conservative president allowed in the United States? And the answer is: no.

The fraud was evident and as I saw a supporter of Trump saying, "all the institutions that were supposed to protect the American people have betrayed the people... the Congress, the press, the Justice, the Supreme Court, the VP. They all betrayed the people.

It was not the Democrats and the press who betrayed the people, the whole establishment, they all denied Trump his second term.  The Democrats only operated the fraud, but the whole elite was complicit, especially the Supreme Court. The fraud was gigantic in the swing states with abundant evidence, that is, the American people were brazenly robbed.

It doesn't matter if the people vote for it or not, it doesn't matter if it has 90 million votes in the future. The machines will show something else. America has become a leftist banana republic and will soon become a communist dictatorship. Faster than any stolen voter who peacefully accepted the biggest electoral fraud in the history of the planet, it can wait.

Meanwhile, China is bringing its tentacles even closer to American politicians. Oops.... doesn't even need to, the next American president is already a "friend of China".

Sad...

Good posting...  welcome.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: jafo2010 on January 12, 2021, 09:25:18 am
Trump's political career was over before the Capitol Hill event.

When the entire system opposes you, the people who are fickle are quick to abandon you when you are no longer in power.

The day of the Capitol Hill event, Trump made a speech that rambled on for 1.5 hours.  That speech is one of the worst I have ever read, and yes, I read the entire thing.  Four years of being POTUS, and he never understood the concept of being presidential.  Had that speech been scripted, it would have last 15 minutes.  Beyond that, he was losing the interest of the listeners, even the folks that stood by him.

His speech that day is the worst speech I have ever read.  I was left with overwhelming sadness when I read it.  He ranted about everyone and everything that betrayed him, not a speech of a strong man by any means.  His advisors are not worth a good BM!!!
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on January 12, 2021, 02:19:43 pm
Four years of being POTUS, and he never understood the concept of being presidential.

Basically that's what it comes down to.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: christian on January 12, 2021, 02:56:34 pm
Basically it comes down to; Trash Trump, usher in Biden, but back off being a Biden follower,because you know how bad preferring Biden over Trump is gonna be.  The time of liars and lies is here,to go with denial of truth and accountability.  Cover the pc bs with rationalizations and excuses, you wouldn't accept from others.  Who awaits those such as these ?   :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: christian on January 13, 2021, 08:36:36 pm
The WICKED demonized Jesus, like there was something to learn from that, eh?  Jesus was was put to death over money and iniquity, just like Judas Betrayal is done today to a man and his Country. By the worst most corrupted men that made it to the top, and it goes much unnoticed ?  slick, Obama, Biden, Pence not quite so much.  Beware of getting on the band wagon of such, its end of trail is ghastly and eternal.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: BassWrangler on January 13, 2021, 08:59:05 pm
Trump's political career was over before the Capitol Hill event.

When the entire system opposes you, the people who are fickle are quick to abandon you when you are no longer in power.

The day of the Capitol Hill event, Trump made a speech that rambled on for 1.5 hours.  That speech is one of the worst I have ever read, and yes, I read the entire thing.  Four years of being POTUS, and he never understood the concept of being presidential.  Had that speech been scripted, it would have last 15 minutes.  Beyond that, he was losing the interest of the listeners, even the folks that stood by him.

His speech that day is the worst speech I have ever read.  I was left with overwhelming sadness when I read it.  He ranted about everyone and everything that betrayed him, not a speech of a strong man by any means.  His advisors are not worth a good BM!!!

Trump's strengths are he loves the country, his America First policy, his integrity in sticking as much as humanly possible to the promises he made during the campaign, his ability to fight back, and his private sector focus (deregulation).

His weaknesses are poor impulse control, a fragile ego - overly and constantly concerned about how others perceive him - a naivete about how jaded and cunning the Democrats are (he's figured that out now, for sure), an inability to think strategically, and an inability to attract, retain, and support quality staff. I love the man for the sacrifices he has made for this country, but like everyone, he has flaws. And in his case, these flaws were played by his opposition to the detriment of our country.

Going forward, we need to take his America First philosophy and continue to push forward with it with eyes open and prepared for Dem dirty tricks and with a leader with less baggage. We need to be ruthless in our war with the Dems and their allies.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: christian on January 13, 2021, 09:07:05 pm
A leader with less  baggage that Trump?  Like Biden ?  How about slick willy, Obama or even ho chi Minh, or Stalin or Mao??? maybe even Putin?  Everything the deep State pulls is Trumps fault and all the wrong the deep State and their followers have done is Trumps fault.  Does that make democrat political whores super saints and super virgins, or even saviors?  End Times of the ultra deceived is here.  The Pied Piper marches humanity to the gates of hell, and they gladly so.  E N JO Y !  dO NOT BE DENIED !
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: dfwgator on January 13, 2021, 09:16:09 pm
Winston Churchill lost his 1945 election in part because he made a speech before the election, accusing Labour of imposing Socialism using "Gestapo" tactics.   

People were furious, that Churchill would associate Labour with the Gestapo, so soon after the war,  even many Tories denounced him.

Fast forward five years,  and Winnie was right back at 10 Downing Street.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: mountaineer on January 13, 2021, 10:07:51 pm
Winston Churchill lost his 1945 election in part because he made a speech before the election, accusing Labour of imposing Socialism using "Gestapo" tactics.   

People were furious, that Churchill would associate Labour with the Gestapo, so soon after the war,  even many Tories denounced him.

Fast forward five years,  and Winnie was right back at 10 Downing Street.
True, and he lost that election even though the people respected his leadership during the war. Trump rebuilt the economy, brought unemployment to record lows - and didn't get a whole lot of thanks for that, either, did he?
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: BassWrangler on January 13, 2021, 10:09:29 pm
True, and he lost that election even though the people respect his leadership during the war. Trump rebuilt the economy, brought unemployment to record lows - and didn't get a whole lot of thanks for that, either, did he?

They are busy erasing his economic accomplishments. They'll show the stats after the Rona hit,but never mention the boom right up until that point.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on January 13, 2021, 10:09:35 pm
If Biden and the Dems bleep up bad enough, which from the looks of this week they look like they will, people may forget about how bad Trump bleep up last week.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: christian on January 14, 2021, 12:45:46 am
As has been mentioned before, stepping off the cliff this election, is a one way free fall.  It takes a fool to think there is a easy road going back.  Want to reverse Communism, that takes a gun, and knowing that they seriously want Commie-Nazi like gun control. Watch how shocked the fools are when it becomes a reality here.  I didn't vote for that, the fool shouts.  :smokin:

The phony engineered capital attack was successful in destroying Trump from running in 2024.  Either Trump was an idiot, which he was not, or those that benefited from the attack were behind it and are busy pushing their, manipulate fools buttons.  Of course manipulated fools are full of denial they ever did such a thing later.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: BassWrangler on January 14, 2021, 12:56:15 am
As has been mentioned before, stepping off the cliff this election, is a one way free fall.  It takes a fool to think there is a easy road going back.  Want to reverse Communism, that takes a gun, and knowing that they seriously want Commie-Nazi like gun control. Watch how shocked the fools are when it becomes a reality here.  I didn't vote for that, the fool shouts.  :smokin:

I'm on an email list at work with others who have an interest in firearms. It's the one place at my employer that is a "safe space" for conservatives to speak. Even so, probably half of the members are leftists, and probably more than that voted for Biden. They are going to be some unhappy campers when Biden bans all semi-auto rifles.
Title: Re: Trump's 2024 dreams destroyed by Capitol attack, say advisers
Post by: Absalom on January 14, 2021, 01:13:12 am
The Dems are certainly afraid of Donald Trump.
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Beyond laughable, as Trump was their fave punching bag;
the core reason the left now controls the Congress & WH!!!