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Title: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling prog
Post by: rangerrebew on March 14, 2019, 01:26:47 pm
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling program is too “tough” for her to understand

On February 24, 2019, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez posted a live video on her Instagram account where she was talking about different political issues while peeling and cutting sweet potatoes.

A guy named Gob Abierto posted several different excerpts from that video in a string of tweets at this link, which has since been deleted. I watched a bunch of those excerpts before the tweet string was deleted. The internet archive has a copy of the same tweet string at this link, but it doesn’t include the videos.

One thing that I remember from watching the excerpts is that Ocasio-Cortez tosses her plastic grocery bags and her sweet potato peelings into the same garbage can, which means that she didn’t recycle the plastic bags, and she didn’t compost the sweet potato peelings.

https://danfromsquirrelhill.wordpress.com/2019/03/09/tough/
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: Hoodat on March 14, 2019, 01:36:07 pm
Some animals are more equal than others.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: Mod1 on March 14, 2019, 01:46:22 pm
Moving to the AOC category.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: austingirl on March 14, 2019, 02:41:40 pm
She's too stupid and lazy to return them to the grocery store recycling bin, or to buy reusable bags. And yet she publicizes this failure to master grocery bags 101.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: Jazzhead on March 14, 2019, 02:46:54 pm
Moving to the AOC category.

Why do we dignify this idiot by creating a subforum just for her?   
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 14, 2019, 02:56:14 pm
Why do we dignify this idiot by creating a subforum just for her?

It makes me laff. :whistle:
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: Polly Ticks on March 14, 2019, 03:17:35 pm
It makes me laff. :whistle:

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOMqqI-kzHY#)
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 14, 2019, 06:02:21 pm
Why do we dignify this idiot by creating a subforum just for her?
We have dumpsters just for trash. Consider this a collection center for AOC.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: DCPatriot on March 14, 2019, 06:12:55 pm
Why do we dignify this idiot by creating a subforum just for her?

The pain-in-the-ass is that before leaving the POLITICS category, you need to manually click on 'all messages read'...otherwise when you're back at the main page, it fools you into thinking there are 'new' posts on the main forum.

Just bring down the category into the main forum and pin it like we do others.  Title it "Everything AOC".   :shrug:
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 14, 2019, 06:17:54 pm
The pain-in-the-ass is that before leaving the POLITICS category, you need to manually click on 'all messages read'...otherwise when you're back at the main page, it fools you into thinking there are 'new' posts on the main forum.

Just bring down the category into the main forum and pin it like we do others.  Title it "Everything AOC".   :shrug:

Imagine what the Home Page would look like if we split out all the sub-Cats into full-blown categories.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: TomSea on March 14, 2019, 06:18:47 pm
These people get the attention because of their dangerous ideas,

Socialism, anti-semitism (maybe that is per others and not her, that much at least) and so on.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 14, 2019, 06:19:51 pm
These people get the attention because of their dangerous ideas,

Socialism, anti-semitism (maybe that is per others and not her, that much at least) and so on.

Perzackly.  To defeat them, we must expose their goofy ideas.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: mountaineer on March 21, 2019, 02:58:34 pm
She's too stupid and lazy to return them to the grocery store recycling bin, or to buy reusable bags. And yet she publicizes this failure to master grocery bags 101.
Yes, it's so difficult to put them in a bigger bag when you get home and then, every several weeks or so on a subsequent shopping trip, drop them into the recycling bin. It's just exhausting, I tell you. After I recycle grocery bags, I have to have a glass of wine and take a nap.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: catfish1957 on March 21, 2019, 03:16:11 pm
AOC:  It's got all these arrows and stuff....

(http://images.recyclereminders.com/img/lg/S/recycling-sign-label-s-2986.png)
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: Victoria33 on March 21, 2019, 04:04:41 pm
AOC:  It's got all these arrows and stuff....
(http://images.recyclereminders.com/img/lg/S/recycling-sign-label-s-2986.png)
@catfish1957
@QueenCatofAragon

There are unwritten rules/laws in this house about recycle:
1. The city (Lewisville, TX), wants citizens not to put food garbage down the garbage disposal, so garbage disposal isn't used - food garbage goes into the food garbage bag (we don't grow veggies so there is no composting. House is in city.).  This food garbage bag goes into large regular plastic garbage container that is put at the curb on Monday night.
2. All grocery store, other stores, plastic bags goes into the very large plastic bag which are periodically, put in another plastic bag and bag is tied and goes into car.  Next time grocery store shopping happens, bag goes to store for recycle.
3. All paper and forms of paper (cardboard), are put in a cardboard box.  Periodically, cardboard box goes into really big blue recycle plastic container which is wheeled out to the curb on Tuesday night for recycle guys to empty.
4. My workroom and his office each has two small type trash cans, one for pure paper and one for non-paper trash.
Any questions about the rules/laws?
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: QueenCatofAragon on March 21, 2019, 04:49:34 pm
Yes, it's so difficult to put them in a bigger bag when you get home and then, every several weeks or so on a subsequent shopping trip, drop them into the recycling bin. It's just exhausting, I tell you. After I recycle grocery bags, I have to have a glass of wine and take a nap.

@mountaineer

You just convinced me to recycle.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: QueenCatofAragon on March 21, 2019, 04:50:47 pm
@catfish1957
@QueenCatofAragon

There are unwritten rules/laws in this house about recycle:
1. The city (Lewisville, TX), wants citizens not to put food garbage down the garbage disposal, so garbage disposal isn't used - food garbage goes into the food garbage bag (we don't grow veggies so there is no composting. House is in city.).  This food garbage bag goes into large regular plastic garbage container that is put at the curb on Monday night.
2. All grocery store, other stores, plastic bags goes into the very large plastic bag which are periodically, put in another plastic bag and bag is tied and goes into car.  Next time grocery store shopping happens, bag goes to store for recycle.
3. All paper and forms of paper (cardboard), are put in a cardboard box.  Periodically, cardboard box goes into really big blue recycle plastic container which is wheeled out to the curb on Tuesday night for recycle guys to empty.
4. My workroom and his office each has two small type trash cans, one for pure paper and one for non-paper trash.
Any questions about the rules/laws?

@Victoria33

You’re a much better person than I am, lol.  🤷🏻‍♀️
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 21, 2019, 04:55:45 pm
@mountaineer

You just convinced me to recycle.

When I lived in Phoenix, recycling plastic grocery bags was a big no-no, so I didn't recycle them.  Rather, I "repurposed" them.  They make great liners for wastebaskets and dirty kitty litter bins.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: catfish1957 on March 21, 2019, 05:02:27 pm
@catfish1957
@QueenCatofAragon

There are unwritten rules/laws in this house about recycle:


@Victoria33

As an Environmental Manager at a petrochemical plant  our environmental committee asked me if we could establish / implement a comprehensive recycle program back in the early '90's which was pretty foreward thinking at the time.  We went through all the time, effort, and cost, and all seemed to be going well.  I mean we had had multi- compartment recepticles for paper, food, plastic, aluminum,and glass.

Well one day after about 6 months later, I got an anonymous tip (note) under my door one day, suggesting I might want to trail the custodial workers in the evening.  And you guessed it.....   These folks were throwing everything into one container in a blazing glory of laziness. 

Bottom line, for these things to work, you got to have almost universal cooperation from the generator all the way to the industrial recycler.  Any weak link in the chain dooms it. 
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: mountaineer on March 21, 2019, 05:03:26 pm
Thankfully, we're not required to recycle anything, but we do take bottles, paper and plastics to a recycling container in a nearby town every once in a while and the grocery bags back to the store. How can that be, that we recycle without the strong arm of the law demanding it?!?  :shrug:
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: aligncare on March 21, 2019, 05:13:02 pm
Every now and then I enjoy revisiting this Carlin routine, Saving The Planet?

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c#)
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: catfish1957 on March 21, 2019, 05:18:46 pm
Thankfully, we're not required to recycle anything, but we do take bottles, paper and plastics to a recycling container in a nearby town every once in a while and the grocery bags back to the store. How can that be, that we recycle without the strong arm of the law demanding it?!?  :shrug:

Hmmmm..   Coming soon to a location near you.


Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky8x0ykF_tQ#)
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: Jazzhead on March 21, 2019, 05:39:40 pm
Thankfully, we're not required to recycle anything, but we do take bottles, paper and plastics to a recycling container in a nearby town every once in a while and the grocery bags back to the store. How can that be, that we recycle without the strong arm of the law demanding it?!?  :shrug:

Because your natural sense of wanting to do the right, responsible and unselfish thing can be appealed to without resort to coercion by the State.   It's the same argument I've made with respect to the abortion issue for years. 
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: mountaineer on March 21, 2019, 05:43:15 pm
Because your natural sense of wanting to do the right, responsible and unselfish thing can be appealed to without resort to coercion by the State. 
Getting back to the posted article, then, could it be that doing the right, responsible and unselfish thing is too difficult for Ms. Ocasio?
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 21, 2019, 05:44:32 pm
Every now and then I enjoy revisiting this Carlin routine, Saving The Planet?

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c#)

I like that one too.  "The planet isn't going anywhere...WE are!"
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: Jazzhead on March 21, 2019, 05:58:33 pm
Getting back to the posted article, then, could it be that doing the right, responsible and unselfish thing is too difficult for Ms. Ocasio?

Could be!    There's a difference between virtue and virtue-signaling.   
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: aligncare on March 21, 2019, 06:05:18 pm
Because your natural sense of wanting to do the right, responsible and unselfish thing can be appealed to without resort to coercion by the State.   It's the same argument I've made with respect to the abortion issue for years.

Ooh, unfortunate choice of examples.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: austingirl on March 21, 2019, 10:19:33 pm
How can that be, that we recycle without the strong arm of the law demanding it?!?  :shrug:

The democommies do not believe anyone will do the "right" thing without the boot of the state on their neck.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: Hoodat on March 21, 2019, 10:39:41 pm
Because your natural sense of wanting to do the right, responsible and unselfish thing can be appealed to without resort to coercion by the State.   It's the same argument I've made with respect to the abortion issue for years.

First of all, laws regulating abortion do not involve coersion in any shape or form.  Secondly, your position has consistently been that States do not have the right to reflect the will of the people by formulating their  own laws - a position which directly contradicts the Constitution of the United States of America.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 22, 2019, 10:19:54 am
The democommies do not believe anyone will do the "right" thing without the boot of the state on their neck.
Well, that's because so much of what they think is "right" goes against Nature.
Title: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she doesn’t recycle her plastic bags because her city’s recycling
Post by: mountaineer on March 22, 2019, 12:35:11 pm
NYT gives AOC cover:
Quote
As Costs Skyrocket, More U.S. Cities Stop Recycling
With China no longer accepting used plastic and paper, communities are facing steep collection bills, forcing them to end their programs or burn or bury more waste.
By Michael Corkery
    March 16, 2019

Recycling, for decades an almost reflexive effort by American households and businesses to reduce waste and help the environment, is collapsing in many parts of the country.

Philadelphia is now burning about half of its 1.5 million residents’ recycling material in an incinerator that converts waste to energy. In Memphis, the international airport still has recycling bins around the terminals, but every collected can, bottle and newspaper is sent to a landfill. And last month, officials in the central Florida city of Deltona faced the reality that, despite their best efforts to recycle, their curbside program was not working and suspended it.

Those are just three of the hundreds of towns and cities across the country that have canceled recycling programs, limited the types of material they accepted or agreed to huge price increases.

“We are in a crisis moment in the recycling movement right now,” said Fiona Ma, the treasurer of California, where recycling costs have increased in some cities.

Prompting this nationwide reckoning is China, which until January 2018 had been a big buyer of recyclable material collected in the United States. That stopped when Chinese officials determined that too much trash was mixed in with recyclable materials like cardboard and certain plastics.  ...
Full story (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/16/business/local-recycling-costs.html)
 :silly: