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Title: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: mystery-ak on June 23, 2020, 02:12:28 am
Ian Hanchett 22 Jun 2020

During a portion of an interview with Scripps Networks released on Monday, President Trump committed that there will be a second round of economic stimulus, which he said is likely to be announced “over the next couple of weeks,” the president did not say how much the stimulus would be, but said he thinks the second round of stimulus will “be bipartisan.”

Scripps National Political Editor and Washington Correspondent Joe St. George asked, “I have a lot of viewers in Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan who are still struggling economically, sir. They spent all of that first stimulus check. Are you going to get them a second stimulus check?”

Trump responded, “Yeah. We are. We are.”

Trump added, “We will be doing another stimulus package. It’ll be very good. It’ll be very generous.”

St. George then asked how much the stimulus would be.

Trump answered, “You’ll find out about it.”

St. George then asked, “When are you going to do it? When are you going to announce it?”

Trump responded, “I think over the next — I think it’s going to be bipartisan. I think it’s going to be over the next couple of weeks, probably.”

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https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/06/22/trump-we-will-be-doing-another-stimulus-package/ (https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/06/22/trump-we-will-be-doing-another-stimulus-package/)
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: roamer_1 on June 23, 2020, 05:46:04 am
POS.   9999hair out0000
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: Sighlass on June 23, 2020, 06:50:20 am
I ain't a rich man, but these giveaways are killing my kid's future. Stop it Trump. This ain't funny any more.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 23, 2020, 07:03:58 am
POS.   9999hair out0000

Trump is buying votes.  He also had a string of promises on his twitter for certain states and infrastructure. 

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/19/trump-announces-nearly-1b-in-us-infrastructure-proposals-plans-to-divide-funding-among-20-states-936513 (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/19/trump-announces-nearly-1b-in-us-infrastructure-proposals-plans-to-divide-funding-among-20-states-936513)

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump


Senator Mitch McConnell (
@Team_Mitch
) always delivers for the people of Kentucky, who will hopefully re-elect their powerful Senate Majority Leader. Mitch has helped us Make America Great Again, and has my Complete and Total Endorsement! #KYSEN


 9999hair out0000

What has Mitch done for us except deliver everything Nancy wanted?

Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: verga on June 23, 2020, 01:41:23 pm
UN FREAKING BELIEVABLE  9999hair out0000
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: XenaLee on June 23, 2020, 02:02:50 pm
We don't need another cash giveaway.  What we do need is help for those small business owners that have either been put out of business by Covid-19... or by the anarchists/looters.   As for that infrastructure aid.... we need to focus on our electrical grid and building that border wall.  Strictly national security focused... since we're at war, as we speak.   

Too many folks got $$$ that didn't really need it and that's a waste of taxpayers' hard-earned money, a waste of resources.  I hate to champion ANYthing the left has done in the past, but in this case.... while the economy is still in the tank (thanks, ChiComs and DemocRats!).... we need more specifically focused stimulus money.  And.....dare I say it?  I dare, I dare.   We need "targeted tax cuts".   888mouth
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: catfish1957 on June 23, 2020, 02:09:53 pm


12 hours on this thread now, and still waiting on one of the super-fans of Trump here to defend this.......

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Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: XenaLee on June 23, 2020, 02:12:04 pm

12 hours on this thread now, and still waiting on one of the super-fans of Trump here to defend this.......

 9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000

What's a "super-fan"?  Someone that never disagrees with anything Trump says or does?   

I obviously don't qualify....

so nevermind.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: catfish1957 on June 23, 2020, 02:13:44 pm
What's a "super-fan"?  Someone that never disagrees with anything Trump says or does?   

I obviously don't qualify....

so nevermind.

You and I both know there are a half dozen or so here regulars that meet that criteria.  Won't name names.........
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: XenaLee on June 23, 2020, 02:17:13 pm
You and I both know there are a half dozen or so here regulars that meet that criteria.  Won't name names.........

Lol...no.   No need.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: LMAO on June 23, 2020, 02:18:24 pm
Why not just lift all these nonsensical lockdowns and let the economy repair itself?
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: skeeter on June 23, 2020, 02:24:41 pm
You and I both know there are a half dozen or so here regulars that meet that criteria.  Won't name names.........

No don't do that. That would invite an equally relevant retaliation.

BTW I hate the idea of another stimulus package. Big friggin mistake.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: FeelNoPain on June 23, 2020, 02:35:06 pm
I'm okay with this.
If debt was truly problematic, would Presidential Medal of Freedom Honoree Rush Limbaugh state: “Nobody is a fiscal conservative anymore. All this talk about concern for the deficit and the budget has been bogus.”

Trust Rush. Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.  tri22
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: XenaLee on June 23, 2020, 02:39:53 pm
I'm okay with this.
If debt was truly problematic, would Presidential Medal of Freedom Honoree Rush Limbaugh state: “Nobody is a fiscal conservative anymore. All this talk about concern for the deficit and the budget has been bogus.”

Trust Rush. Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.  tri22

Well... at least now...we probably won't be worrying about repaying that $1+ trillion that we owed China. 
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: FeelNoPain on June 23, 2020, 02:48:18 pm
Well... at least now...we probably won't be worrying about repaying that $1+ trillion that we owed China.

Good point.

Like right-wing talk radio, TV commentators, and GOP politicians, I'll resume giving a damn about the deficit once a democrat is back in the White House.

Until then, I'm living like the Gap Band on the Party Train. Big Poppa Trump doling out the dollars! Holla!
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: XenaLee on June 23, 2020, 02:52:46 pm
Good point.

Like right-wing talk radio, TV commentators, and GOP politicians, I'll resume giving a damn about the deficit once a democrat is back in the White House.

Until then, I'm living like the Gap Band on the Party Train. Big Poppa Trump doling out the dollars! Holla!

Your sarcasm aside... I don't really think it's going to make a tinker's damn bit of difference.  The economy is already tanked and struggling.... due to circumstances beyond our (or Trump's) control.   I'm a realist....and that is the reality of the situation we're in.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: catfish1957 on June 23, 2020, 03:21:53 pm
I'm okay with this.
If debt was truly problematic, would Presidential Medal of Freedom Honoree Rush Limbaugh state: “Nobody is a fiscal conservative anymore. All this talk about concern for the deficit and the budget has been bogus.”

Trust Rush. Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.  tri22

There are a few of us left who understand the basics of finance, and know that a government of drunken sailors with a limitless credit card won't stop spending until the grim reaper of reality sticks out his boney hand.

Deficits are bogus?  Let's revisit that when the dollar finally collapses after the debt payment exceeds the ability the expend money to maintain entitlements and other government expenditures.  I know i am preparing for every scenario.  But make no mistake.....   This house of cards is going to collapse at some point, and it is going to make the 1930's seem like a vacation. 
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: corbe on June 23, 2020, 03:40:49 pm
   So the 'King of Debt' is spending $$$ like there's no tomorrow AND Infrastructure Week starts next Monday.  Low interest rates are to him like crack is to a methhead.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: Victoria33 on June 23, 2020, 04:11:40 pm
So the 'King of Debt' is spending $$$ like there's no tomorrow AND Infrastructure Week starts next Monday.  Low interest rates are to him like crack is to a methhead.
@corbe

"The Best Method to Predict Future Behavior is Past Behavior."
Trump always overspent with his company and had several bankruptcies.  He thinks he owns this country and can spend all the money just as he did with his company.  America has died but doesn't know it yet.  I believe we have entered the end times of which the Bible speaks. 
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: XenaLee on June 23, 2020, 04:23:01 pm
@corbe

"The Best Method to Predict Future Behavior is Past Behavior."
Trump always overspent with his company and had several bankruptcies.  He thinks he owns this country and can spend all the money just as he did with his company.  America has died but doesn't know it yet.  I believe we have entered the end times of which the Bible speaks.

It's not Trump doing all of this evil crap.   Trump's policies have worked towards saving America vs. the Marxist's agenda of destroying us (as founded).   As for those end times.... America will have to be "taken out" ....as Israel's only ally and friend on the planet.  In those end times, Israel stands alone against the world.  It is, literally, Biblical.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: skeeter on June 23, 2020, 04:40:01 pm
It's not Trump doing all of this evil crap.   Trump's policies have worked towards saving America vs. the Marxist's agenda of destroying us (as founded).   As for those end times.... America will have to be "taken out" ....as Israel's only ally and friend on the planet.  In those end times, Israel stands alone against the world.  It is, literally, Biblical.
Trump can be blamed for not being willing to politically die on the budget hill, in vain. Neither has any other modern US president.

He did preside over the longest ‘governmental shut down’ in recent history and in the end quit the field. But it’s really is unreasonable to blame him for the debt.

People Who want to blame someone should look in the damn mirror.

Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: LMAO on June 23, 2020, 05:19:15 pm
So does this mean the debt won’t be paid off in eight years?
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: roamer_1 on June 23, 2020, 05:32:33 pm
America will have to be "taken out" ....as Israel's only ally and friend on the planet.  In those end times, Israel stands alone against the world.  It is, literally, Biblical.

That in fact depends upon WHO is Israel. Remember, there were 12 tribes at the covenant on Sinai. Current Israel the state is only physically two (three counting Cohenim) of them. The House of Judah. And of the two, Benjamin was split - The lion's share of Benjamin is with the 10 lost tribes... The House of Ephraim...

And those tribes are present and large in the end... Something that everyone misses in the prophecy.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 23, 2020, 05:40:18 pm
No don't do that. That would invite an equally relevant retaliation.

BTW I hate the idea of another stimulus package. Big friggin mistake.
I agree. I lost my job (laid off from the oil patch), and found another. (I would have made more on UI, but I'd have to get laid off again).  Sure, I could use some extra money, but this isn't what we need.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: XenaLee on June 23, 2020, 06:09:22 pm
Trump can be blamed for not being willing to politically die on the budget hill, in vain. Neither has any other modern US president.

He did preside over the longest ‘governmental shut down’ in recent history and in the end quit the field. But it’s really is unreasonable to blame him for the debt.

People Who want to blame someone should look in the damn mirror.

Agreed.   :beer:
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: catfish1957 on June 23, 2020, 06:44:47 pm

People Who want to blame someone should look in the damn mirror.

Baloney!!!  I have been screaming about the national debt and uncontrolled federal spending basically my entire adult life.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: roamer_1 on June 23, 2020, 06:49:09 pm
Baloney!!!  I have been screaming about the national debt and uncontrolled federal spending basically my entire adult life.

DITTO... And now it is exponentially worse... in a 2/3 Republican government.  *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: XenaLee on June 23, 2020, 06:52:10 pm
DITTO... And now it is exponentially worse... in a 2/3 Republican government.  *****rollingeyes*****

Um.... which wouldn't be the case.... IF (big "if") certain folks on the right (supposedly) had voted GOP in 2018 ....

instead of sitting home whining, moaning and bitching about the GOP....lol.    :tongue2:

Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: LMAO on June 23, 2020, 06:53:59 pm
Baloney!!!  I have been screaming about the national debt and uncontrolled federal spending basically my entire adult life.

 Can you imagine the outrage here if the Democrats with a Democrat president was spending like this?

Yes I understand that Trump is not the only one to blame. But I have never seen a president so eager to sign whatever Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer put in front of him
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: GtHawk on June 23, 2020, 06:55:42 pm
Why not just lift all these nonsensical lockdowns and let the economy repair itself?
That's up to the individual states governors ...........no?

My BIL has been called back by the Disney Resorts California because they plan to reopen July 17. Supposedly they are going to set limits on attendance as as well as other things. But first Disney employees had to attend an eight hour seminar, waiting to here what the agenda was but pretty sure it was about Covid procedures and considering the Disney socialist posture probably to warn and train all the White employees to be properly apologetic for their White privilege and kowtow to people of color.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: roamer_1 on June 23, 2020, 06:56:51 pm
Um.... which wouldn't be the case.... IF (big "if") certain folks on the right (supposedly) had voted GOP in 2018 ....

instead of sitting home whining, moaning and bitching about the GOP....lol.    :tongue2:

Makes no damn difference either way... Republicans have had all three houses and never stopped spending. So don't give me that. :tongue2: :pop41:
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: catfish1957 on June 23, 2020, 06:59:27 pm
Can you imagine the outrage here if the Democrats with a Democrat president was spending like this?

Yes I understand that Trump is not the only one to blame. But I have never seen a president so eager to sign whatever Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer put in front of him

I've given ever POTUS hell since Ford about deficit spending.  I am an equal opportunity hater of the complict bastards who made this country drown in red ink,
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 23, 2020, 07:02:03 pm
Um.... which wouldn't be the case.... IF (big "if") certain folks on the right (supposedly) had voted GOP in 2018 ....

instead of sitting home whining, moaning and bitching about the GOP....lol.    :tongue2:
I voted GOP down ticket as if it made a difference, anyway.

I earned my RIGHT to whine and bitch and gripe.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: XenaLee on June 23, 2020, 07:42:05 pm
I voted GOP down ticket as if it made a difference, anyway.

I earned my RIGHT to whine and bitch and gripe.

Yes, you did.   But those that didn't vote GOP ....and thus helped the left take over the House (Hi, Nancy, Hello Impeachment)....

have no bitch coming about the results of their complacency.   At least... IMO.     :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: roamer_1 on June 23, 2020, 07:47:31 pm
Yes, you did.   But those that didn't vote GOP ....and thus helped the left take over the House (Hi, Nancy, Hello Impeachment)....

have no bitch coming about the results of their complacency.   At least... IMO.     :laugh:

Your opinion fails the reality test.
The GOP ain't no damn better.

And if I pay a single damn tax, my right to bitch about it remains.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: mystery-ak on June 24, 2020, 12:27:13 am
Trump, GOP clash over new round of checks

Senate Republicans and President Trump are facing off over a new round of COVID-19 stimulus checks, with GOP senators warning Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Tuesday to mind the mounting federal deficit.

Trump views the $1,200 “economic impact payment” checks that featured his name prominently as a political and economic winner. Many GOP senators, on the other hand, think a second round would be a huge waste of money.

Sen. Pat Toomey (Pa.) was one of several Republican senators who warned Mnuchin about the rising red ink at a Tuesday lunch. The deficit is projected to hit $3.7 trillion in 2020, according to the Congressional Budget Office.


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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/504216-trump-gop-clash-over-new-round-of-checks
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: skeeter on June 24, 2020, 12:54:09 am
Baloney!!!  I have been screaming about the national debt and uncontrolled federal spending basically my entire adult life.
Why is any serious budget cutting considered political suicide? Why has any president who has tried to fight congressional overspending lost that fight? Because the voters want the spending. There is no political will to cut spending because voters want it.

You may not want to hear that, I may not like it either... but it’s the truth.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: XenaLee on June 24, 2020, 01:05:19 am
Why is any serious budget cutting considered political suicide? Why has any president who has tried to fight congressional overspending lost that fight? Because the voters want the spending. There is no political will to cut spending because voters want it.

You may not want to hear that, I may not like it either... but it’s the truth.

The only reason the voters want more spending is because they are ignorant of the pitfalls and the eventual collapse that has to happen.  They haven't been taught what will happen unless spending is reigned in.  That truth is too painful and "inconvenient".

I think if the GOP bothered to 'edicate' folks about that, things might be different.   Why don't they even try to do that?   Because they are gutless and just go along to get along.   And because most of them like the spending and want it, too.  Conservatism is a dead issue in America now.  And I don't think it's ever coming back in style.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: skeeter on June 24, 2020, 01:25:01 am
The only reason the voters want more spending is because they are ignorant of the pitfalls and the eventual collapse that has to happen.  They haven't been taught what will happen unless spending is reigned in.  That truth is too painful and "inconvenient".

I think if the GOP bothered to 'edicate' folks about that, things might be different.   Why don't they even try to do that?   Because they are gutless and just go along to get along.   And because most of them like the spending and want it, too.  Conservatism is a dead issue in America now.  And I don't think it's ever coming back in style.
they don’t educate voters because gov spending is a handy way to buy votes and it would take courage to suggest reducing spending. And I do not think reigning in spending was ever in style, outside of lip service. At least not since the New Deal.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 24, 2020, 01:27:11 am
they don’t educate voters because gov spending is a handy way to buy votes and it would take courage. And I do not think reigning in spending was ever in style, outside of lip service. At least not since the New Deal.
No, the trick has been ever to inflate out of the last round of nutso spending, so it gets paid back in 'money' that is worth less.

Which is why instead of $100/week to support a family of four, it takes closer to $1000/week now.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: skeeter on June 24, 2020, 01:29:23 am
No, the trick has been ever to inflate out of the last round of nutso spending, so it gets paid back in 'money' that is worth less.

Which is why instead of $100/week to support a family of four, it takes closer to $1000/week now.
Outside of the virus related spending, how much of every annual increase is mandated by ‘law’?
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 24, 2020, 01:39:23 am
Outside of the virus related spending, how much of every annual increase is mandated by ‘law’?
I couldn't tell you. I do know that in the Fedgov, your importance is based on the size of your department, not necessarily what you do. If the Dept grows, you become more important. Budgets will increase as long as that is the metric.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: skeeter on June 24, 2020, 01:44:06 am
I couldn't tell you. I do know that in the Fedgov, your importance is based on the size of your department, not necessarily what you do. If the Dept grows, you become more important. Budgets will increase as long as that is the metric.
I’ve seen pie charts in the past which reflected all annual spending including that which is mandated, automatic and although I cannot remember the specifics I do recall being amazed at how little discretionary spending there is as a percentage of overall spending.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: Applewood on June 24, 2020, 02:01:33 am
Can you imagine the outrage here if the Democrats with a Democrat president was spending like this?

Yes I understand that Trump is not the only one to blame. But I have never seen a president so eager to sign whatever Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer put in front of him

Both parties want the same things -- not just the spending.  It's just that the Democrats are more honest about it.
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 24, 2020, 02:44:54 am
There are a few of us left who understand the basics of finance, and know that a government of drunken sailors with a limitless credit card won't stop spending until the grim reaper of reality sticks out his boney hand.

Deficits are bogus?  Let's revisit that when the dollar finally collapses after the debt payment exceeds the ability the expend money to maintain entitlements and other government expenditures.  I know i am preparing for every scenario.  But make no mistake.....   This house of cards is going to collapse at some point, and it is going to make the 1930's seem like a vacation.

This isn't Trumps Casino where Dad is going to bail him out. 
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 24, 2020, 02:50:18 am
Both parties want the same things -- not just the spending.  It's just that the Democrats are more honest about it.

Trump and the Republicans that go along are ruining this country.  Of course the Dems want to spend too.  Its all about the same thing.  Buying votes.  How much can you give so that people will vote for you.  And Trump has taken advantage of the Democrats attending his rallies.  Democrats and people who never voted before.   Pretty telling.  The Democrats expect goodies.  People who don't vote?  I can only imagine what the draw is.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/over-18-000-democrats-have-attended-trump-rallies-this-year (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/over-18-000-democrats-have-attended-trump-rallies-this-year)
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: mrclose on June 24, 2020, 02:53:21 am
The Dollar to become ... The new penny ... YA-a-a-a! :patriot:
Title: Re: Trump: ‘We Will Be Doing Another Stimulus Package’
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 24, 2020, 03:00:15 am
This isn't Trumps Casino where Dad is going to bail him out.
Actuarial charts on everything from Bingo to Roulette are available for those in the industry. If the house doesn't make money, someone is doing it wrong.