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Poll: More voters trust Biden to contain coronavirus spread
By Max Greenwood - 05/20/20 10:50 AM EDT
More voters trust former Vice President Joe Biden to contain the coronavirus pandemic than President Trump, according to a new Morning Consult poll released on Wednesday, suggesting that the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee is making inroads on the issue.
Forty-two percent said that they trust Biden more to handle the spread of COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus — a 4-point gain for the former vice president since a similar poll in mid-March.
Trump, meanwhile, trails Biden on the issue by 7 points, with 35 percent saying they trust him more to contain the spread of the disease — a 3-point drop since March.
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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/498715-poll-more-voters-trust-biden-to-contain-coronavirus-spread
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I just can't believe this..all Biden does is sit in his basement complaining...Trump is out there fighting this virus..and people think Biden is better at combating this pandemic... 9999hair out0000
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Who ARE these people being polled??? *****rollingeyes*****
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Just another nonsense poll, published by 'The Hill'.
The Dems are going to try to portray Biden as some kind of superintelligent superman, and this a good thing.
There is not enough lipstick in the world to cover Biden's obvious incompetence and poor mental state.
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I just can't believe this..all Biden does is sit in his basement complaining...Trump is out there fighting this virus..and people think Biden is better at combating this pandemic... 9999hair out0000
I do - When I consider how many people are products of social media, sound bites, MSM bias and well, just plain ignorant.
As for President Trump, I think he lost ground unnecessarily with his excessive talking during his press conferences. And, so much of it came off as babble. He should have stayed with major policy statements or similar. He could have left the pronouncements on ventilators, so many ventilators, high tech ventilators, the best ventilators to his Task Force. (Disclaimer: I will vote for him.)
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I do - When I consider how many people are products of social media, sound bites, MSM bias and well, just plain ignorant.
As for President Trump, I think he lost ground unnecessarily with his excessive talking during his press conferences. And, so much of it came off as babble. He should have stayed with major policy statements or similar. He could have left the pronouncements on ventilators, so many ventilators, high tech ventilators, to his Task Force. (Disclaimer: I will vote for him.)
Trump is Trump....he is what he is and will never change for anyone.
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Trump is Trump....he is what he is and will never change for anyone.
Yep.
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We are in the midst of a severe pandemic that has not only killed thousands
but has also raised the level of anxiety and fear across the nation, acutely
so, since the extremely serious contraction in our economy.
Intuitively, a calming and reassuring voice from leadership would be uplifting
as well as inspiring. Sadly, Trump is emphatically not that voice.
Not only is he incapable of change, his vociferous Fans don't want any change,
as they applaud/excuse his argumentative and defiant persona.
Then when polling exposes serious erosion in his support from voters,
this is dismissed as the work of frauds and liars.
Yet all action (or inaction) in our lives, produces a reaction.
For Trump, it will arrive on Election Day.
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I just can't believe this..all Biden does is sit in his basement complaining...Trump is out there fighting this virus..and people think Biden is better at combating this pandemic... 9999hair out0000
These polls aren't made to reflect public opinion, they're made to influence it.
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Will it matter? People are less scared of the virus every day. I don't see how Trump overcomes the economic fallout. He is partially responsible for the employment crisis. When new data emerged, the CDC should have been forced to revise their state guidelines. These have been used to discredit red state governors. Brian Kemp still has to explain why he opposes the administration. Trump says he wants to reopen, but scolds the governors who oppose these arbitrary guidelines.
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(https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2016/11/madam-president-newsweek.jpg)
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They trust him to do what that hasn't been done. This kind of stuff makes me 9999hair out0000. Good thing it's only a poll, lol.
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As for President Trump, I think he lost ground unnecessarily with his excessive talking during his press conferences. And, so much of it came off as babble.
I'm going to disagree with you @Lando Lincoln ( 9999what :laugh: ) I hear and read this drumbeat -- but I'm not seeing tangible evidence that it's true. I'm not seeing it in RNC polling in the party, POTUS still has a 96% approval rating; his national rating is above where GWB's and Obama's were at this point in their first terms. (And neither had to face down a coup.)
The GOP had a clean sweep of the special Congressional and state elections a week ago. We're not hearing much about this because the color of the wave was predicted to be blue. The Trump 2020 campaign is active with virtual rallies whose audiences have totaled over one million viewers; the ranks of ground troops are swelling ... and the democrats are concerned.
Circling back to the briefings and the press Q+As --- the media's not going to tell you they lost badly. But, maybe this short video will. Keep in mind as you watch this it took place in Nassau County on Long Island, NY --- and was aimed at a local TV reporter. A key word is "anger". :
Kevin Vesey
@KevinVesey
The level of anger directed at the media from these protestors was alarming. As always, I will tell a fair and unbiased story today.
VIDEO at link: https://twitter.com/KevinVesey/status/1261001977598808065
2:34 PM · May 14, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
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These polls aren't made to reflect public opinion, they're made to influence it.
And don't forget the "Bradley effect," according to which Trump voters mislead pollsters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect
Another concept is TDS-denial, for those with such deeply, deranged hatred, they cannot imagine others
like and vote for Trump.
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I'm going to disagree with you @Lando Lincoln ( 9999what :laugh: ) I hear and read this drumbeat -- but I'm not seeing tangible evidence that it's true. I'm not seeing it in RNC polling in the party, POTUS still has a 96% approval rating; his national rating is above where GWB's and Obama's were at this point in their first terms. (And neither had to face down a coup.)
The GOP had a clean sweep of the special Congressional and state elections a week ago. We're not hearing much about this because the color of the wave was predicted to be blue. The Trump 2020 campaign is active with virtual rallies whose audiences have totaled over one million viewers; the ranks of ground troops are swelling ... and the democrats are concerned.
Circling back to the briefings and the press Q+As --- the media's not going to tell you they lost badly. But, maybe this short video will. Keep in mind as you watch this it took place in Nassau County on Long Island, NY --- and was aimed at a local TV reporter. A key word is "anger". :
@Right_in_Virginia
Well, I will say this - I sincerely hope I am wrong and you are right regarding my assertion he overplayed his commentary during the Task Force briefings. While I support him, there were many moments where I became frustrated with what I perceived as babble.
I can't imagine the burden with which he is wrestling. I pray for him. I do (unlike that fraud and misfit Nancy).
I was very encouraged by the recent elections. I looked into the numbers as they were happening and they were impressive. That the media is so quiet, speaks loudly.
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(https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2016/11/madam-president-newsweek.jpg)
That remains a punch to the psyche every time I see it.
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@Right_in_Virginia
Well, I will say this - I sincerely hope I am wrong and you are right regarding my assertion he overplayed his commentary during the Task Force briefings. While I support him, there were many moments where I became frustrated with what I perceived as babble.
I can't imagine the burden with which he is wrestling. I pray for him. I do (unlike that fraud and misfit Nancy).
I was very encouraged by the recent elections. I looked into the numbers as they were happening and they were impressive. That the media is so quiet, speaks loudly.
Thanks @Lando Lincoln for the thoughtful reply.
I know many folks cringe at the President's pressers ... but many more don't. And I understand this can be tough to believe. happy77
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Forgive me for stating the obvious, but blue states are only blue because the Democrats get 1 vote over 50 percent on election day, a simple majority. But, we know that democrats play around with election fraud, which means their majorities are probably thinner than the election results would have us believe.
That leaves the possibility of much larger support for the president than polls suggest. That support will not blame Trump for the economic pain they are suffering, but rather the governors of those locked down states. And many democrats too will be very angry with the governor’s excessive executive actions that are causing their economic troubles.
And don’t forget that MAGA supporters are angry and fired up over democrats contemptible behavior since ‘16 and will work hard overcoming any roadblocks to Trump’s re-election.
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Trump is polarizing to the extent that if you lean Democommie, you dislike him, if you are Republican you tend to be a supporter of Trump. The only people that may vary are Independents, and I believe they will support Trump overwhelmingly in November.
Biden will be road kill for Trump. This poll is absolute garbage. This outfit services uber liberal news outlets, so what do you think their position will indicate? I suspect the guy that is CEO is a Jeff Flake compadre, an anti Trumper from day one.
I still say everything is building for Clinton to emerge from the convention.
Fact is Biden is hunkered down in his basement because he has limited funds. He screams for me of a person not really running, merely a placeholder. I say it is Clinton.
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There are some things that cannot be explained away or even understood.
The results of this "poll" are one of those things.
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By hiding in his basement while Trump travels around overseeing resolution?
This is just lying.
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These polls aren't made to reflect public opinion, they're made to influence it.
888high58888
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We are in the midst of a severe pandemic that has not only killed thousands
but has also raised the level of anxiety and fear across the nation, acutely
so, since the extremely serious contraction in our economy.
Intuitively, a calming and reassuring voice from leadership would be uplifting
as well as inspiring. Sadly, Trump is emphatically not that voice.
Not only is he incapable of change, his vociferous Fans don't want any change,
as they applaud/excuse his argumentative and defiant persona.
Then when polling exposes serious erosion in his support from voters,
this is dismissed as the work of frauds and liars.
Yet all action (or inaction) in our lives, produces a reaction.
For Trump, it will arrive on Election Day.
Look, as soon as any Democrat gets elected, the MSM will pull back the shades, stop decrying treatments which have been shown to work, and the sun will shine it's bright rays of hope on a media landscape replete with bright flowers and unicorns cavorting across a cloudless sky farting contrails of rainbow hued skittles which will rain down on the masses hungry for sweets.
If Trump gets reelected, of course, and until the election, we will see lowering gray skies on an apocalyptic landscape, Stygian gloom, a world without hope or recourse, without green grass or flowers or little birdies singing, but only sickly bloated scavengers lurking in withered and leafless trees, waiting for the inevitable next meal.
It wasn't Trump who created the Panic, it was the media and the gee whiz guys who gave the SARS CoV-2 virus its own hockey stick graph and extrapolated millions of deaths in the US alone.
It wasn't Trump who lied about not having ventilators (based on hockey stick projections) and diverted field hospital resources and even a hospital ship to NYC while sick people were being shoved into nursing homes which had no infections, and gaming the numbers by adding in "presumed" COVID-19 deaths.
It wasn't Trump who banned what appears to be effective treatment medications from use based on someone drinking fish tank cleaner (murder?).
It wasn't Trump who published images of the NYC potters Field on Hart Island, est 1861, (eternal home of over a million New Yorker's unclaimed bodies), as if there were mass burials going on over COVID-19.
Trump didn't raise the level of anxiety, the Mass Media have pimped panic from day one.
Alongside and in cooperation with the WHO, the CDC, the NIAID, who (correctly) cite there are no approved double blind, placebo-issuing studies which prove...well, diddly squat.
It's still a novel virus, so all the results are all anecdotal, except, of course the results which say that people who had advanced cases died taking one or two of the three inexpensive post-patent drugs which were supposed to stop the virus if administered early on in the disease.
It appears that leaving out the zinc (a necessary ingredient) was intentional and all that analysis shows is that leaving out the Zinc supplement sure doesn't work in the late stages of the disease.
Another citation being bandied about, for the yet unafraid, cites how Chloroquine and Hydroxychoroquine may cause heart arrhythmia, (a known possible side effect of both medications is a lengthening of the Q-T interval, the time on an ecg between when the ventricles get the signal to contract and they fully relax).
That can be bad, but what that failed to note is that COVID-19 can cause Q-T interval lengthening without any drugs administered, and may be the source of the arrhythmia without any drug involved--so it is possible it was the disease, and not the drug which is the culprit.
Millions have taken hydroxychloroquine without any ill effects other than a tendency for vision degradation, something to be monitored while under the regimen, but suddenly it's being howled about as if it was deadly for everyone.
So, as a scientist, I'm tired of the distortions of fact, the games being played with scientific results, with projections based on apocalyptic fancy, with playing politics with what should be a cut and dried and logical finding of fact. Everywhere I can expose that fraud, I will.
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Trump is polarizing to the extent that if you lean Democommie, you dislike him, if you are Republican you tend to be a supporter of Trump. The only people that may vary are Independents, and I believe they will support Trump overwhelmingly in November.
Biden will be road kill for Trump. This poll is absolute garbage. This outfit services uber liberal news outlets, so what do you think their position will indicate? I suspect the guy that is CEO is a Jeff Flake compadre, an anti Trumper from day one.
I still say everything is building for Clinton to emerge from the convention.
Fact is Biden is hunkered down in his basement because he has limited funds. He screams for me of a person not really running, merely a placeholder. I say it is Clinton.
I'm afraid I tend to agree with your analysis. If Biden is on the ticket in November, his running mate will be the real candidate. and the Speaker of the House will be next in line. (Imagine "Vice President Pelosi").
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I don't trust either. They are both ridiculous. And why would I trust someone that can't even figure out whether he is running for Senate or President?
On the other hand we have the Hydroxychloroquine pusher.
The choice is pitiful. PITIFUL.
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The condemnation of Trump for supporting Hydroxy is idiotic. As I heard, and all of you did, one of the world's most noted virologists in France did a study that showed almost all using Hrdroxy benefited from the use of the drug. When I heard his interview, he was quite convincing.
At a time when the medical community was at a complete loss of what therapies to use to fight this novel virus, the French doctor provided an answer to fight the disease. Trump being a man of action, jumped on it. I applaud his desire to protect the people of America, and it is the corrupt, dirty, rotten media that have made it a bad thing, and as a result, caused the death of many Americans by instilling doubt about the medication. Perhaps thousands of deaths are on their hands because of the TDS.
We have a handful of Democommie Governors killing thousands of senior citizens by demanding that nursing homes allow people infected with the corona virus into their facilities. And again, we have the corrupt, dirty, rotten media heralding the actions of these obtuse governors.
I THINK IT IS SAFE TO SAY THAT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS ARE DEAD TODAY BECAUSE OF THE IDIOCY AND CORRUPTION OF THE MEDIA AND DEMOCOMMIE GOVERNORS. I TRUST THEY ALL PAY FOR THEIR STUPIDITY.
TRUMP AND HIS TEAM WERE NOT PERFECT, BUT THERE IS ONE THING ABSOLUTELY TRUE, THEIR DECISIONS WERE MADE TO SAVE LIVES AND PROTECT AMERICA
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Once the democrats latch on to a talking point, they press down real hard until the patient stops squirming.
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I do - When I consider how many people are products of social media, sound bites, MSM bias and well, just plain ignorant.
As for President Trump, I think he lost ground unnecessarily with his excessive talking during his press conferences. And, so much of it came off as babble. He should have stayed with major policy statements or similar. He could have left the pronouncements on ventilators, so many ventilators, high tech ventilators, the best ventilators to his Task Force. (Disclaimer: I will vote for him.)
I completely agree with this. @Lando Lincoln
This weekend is a turning point IMO, Faucci says open up. Governers are doing so. The market weathered okay. Real estate is surprisingly strrong.
People are champing at the bit, to "run." To get out, get to work, get to play.
What better to have, than a positive, promoter-in-chief?
I realize all that positivity is a downer, for the debbi-the-downer types.
Five months to election. Will the dems stick with Gropey Joe?
Stick with Hiden Biden?
It looks like Trump has the stronger position. He is persuassive. He will have faced a big problem, and prevailed. He will say that roaring economy is already roaring again.
Re. blacks, Candace, Kanye, Elder get active with Blexit and Blackout messages, added to the Trump record on jobs, etc. World economy recovers, too. Oil demand rises as do prices. World also sees China as a danger. Buy American. Buy German. Buy Japanese. Make drugs in America, Israel, etc. Assemble iPhones in Brasil.
etc.
Four more years.
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The condemnation of Trump for supporting Hydroxy is idiotic. As I heard, and all of you did, one of the world's most noted virologists in France did a study that showed almost all using Hrdroxy benefited from the use of the drug. When I heard his interview, he was quite convincing.
At a time when the medical community was at a complete loss of what therapies to use to fight this novel virus, the French doctor provided an answer to fight the disease. Trump being a man of action, jumped on it. I applaud his desire to protect the people of America, and it is the corrupt, dirty, rotten media that have made it a bad thing, and as a result, caused the death of many Americans by instilling doubt about the medication. Perhaps thousands of deaths are on their hands because of the TDS.
We have a handful of Democommie Governors killing thousands of senior citizens by demanding that nursing homes allow people infected with the corona virus into their facilities. And again, we have the corrupt, dirty, rotten media heralding the actions of these obtuse governors.
I THINK IT IS SAFE TO SAY THAT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS ARE DEAD TODAY BECAUSE OF THE IDIOCY AND CORRUPTION OF THE MEDIA AND DEMOCOMMIE GOVERNORS. I TRUST THEY ALL PAY FOR THEIR STUPIDITY.
TRUMP AND HIS TEAM WERE NOT PERFECT, BUT THERE IS ONE THING ABSOLUTELY TRUE, THEIR DECISIONS WERE MADE TO SAVE LIVES AND PROTECT AMERICA
One more thing about Hydroxychloroquine, it is best used with a zinc supplement, and even more importantly, used as EARLY as possible.
Virtually every 'test' poo-poohing it was conducted on advanced cases, left out the zinc supplement, or both--like the VA 'analysis', for instance.
Put diesel in your gas lawnmower, and it likely won't run very well either.
And yes, for the first time in long time, I get the distinct impression we have a POTUS who gives a damn about the country.
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BS
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What you have doubts? Well here's proof, this is just one group of poll respondents!
(https://i.imgur.com/XyCNHyb.jpg)
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What you have doubts? Well here's proof, this is just one group of poll respondents!
(https://i.imgur.com/XyCNHyb.jpg)
:silly:
That really tickled my funny bone.
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The condemnation of Trump for supporting Hydroxy is idiotic. As I heard, and all of you did, one of the world's most noted virologists in France did a study that showed almost all using Hrdroxy benefited from the use of the drug. When I heard his interview, he was quite convincing.
At a time when the medical community was at a complete loss of what therapies to use to fight this novel virus, the French doctor provided an answer to fight the disease. Trump being a man of action, jumped on it. I applaud his desire to protect the people of America, and it is the corrupt, dirty, rotten media that have made it a bad thing, and as a result, caused the death of many Americans by instilling doubt about the medication. Perhaps thousands of deaths are on their hands because of the TDS.
We have a handful of Democommie Governors killing thousands of senior citizens by demanding that nursing homes allow people infected with the corona virus into their facilities. And again, we have the corrupt, dirty, rotten media heralding the actions of these obtuse governors.
I THINK IT IS SAFE TO SAY THAT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS ARE DEAD TODAY BECAUSE OF THE IDIOCY AND CORRUPTION OF THE MEDIA AND DEMOCOMMIE GOVERNORS. I TRUST THEY ALL PAY FOR THEIR STUPIDITY.
TRUMP AND HIS TEAM WERE NOT PERFECT, BUT THERE IS ONE THING ABSOLUTELY TRUE, THEIR DECISIONS WERE MADE TO SAVE LIVES AND PROTECT AMERICA
888high58888 :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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The condemnation of Trump for supporting Hydroxy is idiotic. As I heard, and all of you did, one of the world's most noted virologists in France did a study that showed almost all using Hrdroxy benefited from the use of the drug. When I heard his interview, he was quite convincing.
At a time when the medical community was at a complete loss of what therapies to use to fight this novel virus, the French doctor provided an answer to fight the disease. Trump being a man of action, jumped on it. I applaud his desire to protect the people of America, and it is the corrupt, dirty, rotten media that have made it a bad thing, and as a result, caused the death of many Americans by instilling doubt about the medication. Perhaps thousands of deaths are on their hands because of the TDS.
We have a handful of Democommie Governors killing thousands of senior citizens by demanding that nursing homes allow people infected with the corona virus into their facilities. And again, we have the corrupt, dirty, rotten media heralding the actions of these obtuse governors.
I THINK IT IS SAFE TO SAY THAT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS ARE DEAD TODAY BECAUSE OF THE IDIOCY AND CORRUPTION OF THE MEDIA AND DEMOCOMMIE GOVERNORS. I TRUST THEY ALL PAY FOR THEIR STUPIDITY.
TRUMP AND HIS TEAM WERE NOT PERFECT, BUT THERE IS ONE THING ABSOLUTELY TRUE, THEIR DECISIONS WERE MADE TO SAVE LIVES AND PROTECT AMERICA
Well said.