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Title: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: RoosGirl on December 03, 2018, 11:34:05 pm
https://www.eater.com/2018/11/28/18112819/tipping-in-america-guide-restaurants-how-much (https://www.eater.com/2018/11/28/18112819/tipping-in-america-guide-restaurants-how-much)

It should be common knowledge that when dining out in America, you tip your server. Sure, tipping is inherently exploitative, but as long as tipped minimum wages exist, you don’t get to opt out.

But how much? People are eating out more and more at restaurants that fall outside of the full-service box, and it’s not always entirely clear how they should adapt tips to these new dining styles. Plus, with the advent of Square and other mobile tipping platforms that prompt customers to tip at the register with either a percentage or dollar amount, the whole business can feel a bit awkward. But it doesn’t have to be.

Here’s what to tip in just about any situation, according to dining experts and the people for whom tips really matter.

-Summary-
Sit-down restaurants: 20 percent — always.
Food trucks: Add a buck or two.
Bars: Dollar per drink at dives, 20 percent at cocktail bars.
Bakeries and coffee shops: Add a buck or two.
Fast-casual counter service: 20 percent
Delivery: $5 minimum

Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: Wingnut on December 03, 2018, 11:42:53 pm
I don’t tip because society says I have to. If they really put forth the effort, I’ll give ’em something extra. But this tipping automatically is for the birds. As far as I’m concerned, they’re just doing their job.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: RoosGirl on December 03, 2018, 11:52:37 pm
I don’t tip because society says I have to. If they really put forth the effort, I’ll give ’em something extra. But this tipping automatically is for the birds. As far as I’m concerned, they’re just doing their job.

I hate to think what that means for your teeth brushing habits.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: Wingnut on December 04, 2018, 12:08:34 am
I used to work minimum wage, and when I did I wasn’t lucky enough to have a job that society deemed tip-worth.  How about working at McDonald’s...you don’t feel the need to tip them. They’re serving you food, but society says “Don’t tip these guys over here, but tip these guys.” That’s bullshit.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: RoosGirl on December 04, 2018, 12:43:44 am
I used to work minimum wage, and when I did I wasn’t lucky enough to have a job that society deemed tip-worth.  How about working at McDonald’s...you don’t feel the need to tip them. They’re serving you food, but society says “Don’t tip these guys over here, but tip these guys.” That’s bullshit.

I didn't realize a silly article on tipping would make you so angrified.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: corbe on December 04, 2018, 12:49:38 am
   If I had enough money to pay your back salary, I'd fire you!
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: Wingnut on December 04, 2018, 12:54:36 am
All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: XenaLee on December 04, 2018, 12:56:05 am
https://www.eater.com/2018/11/28/18112819/tipping-in-america-guide-restaurants-how-much (https://www.eater.com/2018/11/28/18112819/tipping-in-america-guide-restaurants-how-much)

It should be common knowledge that when dining out in America, you tip your server. Sure, tipping is inherently exploitative, but as long as tipped minimum wages exist, you don’t get to opt out.

But how much? People are eating out more and more at restaurants that fall outside of the full-service box, and it’s not always entirely clear how they should adapt tips to these new dining styles. Plus, with the advent of Square and other mobile tipping platforms that prompt customers to tip at the register with either a percentage or dollar amount, the whole business can feel a bit awkward. But it doesn’t have to be.

Here’s what to tip in just about any situation, according to dining experts and the people for whom tips really matter.

-Summary-
Sit-down restaurants: 20 percent — always.
Food trucks: Add a buck or two.
Bars: Dollar per drink at dives, 20 percent at cocktail bars.
Bakeries and coffee shops: Add a buck or two.
Fast-casual counter service: 20 percent
Delivery: $5 minimum

How about buffets, where the only thing the server serves is maybe a beverage ...and then brings the check...?  Add a buck or two?

Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: Gefn on December 04, 2018, 01:03:39 am
As a former waitress I tip 25-30;00 percents


I always leave a dollar for coffee at Duncan Donuts and WaWa.

And I give my mechanic money at Christmas for taking care of my car,
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: RoosGirl on December 04, 2018, 01:09:26 am
All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds.

Now that I will agree with.  I'm pretty sure that 20% has become the norm because people are too stupid anymore to figure 15%.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: Wingnut on December 04, 2018, 01:12:22 am
Now that I will agree with.  I'm pretty sure that 20% has become the norm because people are too stupid anymore to figure 15%.

I'll go 12%.  But only if The waitress gives a real extra effort.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 04, 2018, 01:40:56 am
How about buffets, where the only thing the server serves is maybe a beverage ...and then brings the check...?  Add a buck or two?

Small tip for the guy or gal bringing drinks.  If I have to fetch my own food, then no tip has been earned by anybody.

BTW, I always tip in cash, unless it's a large party.  I don't trust management to give my waiter/server what I write down.  Wanna split tips?  Talk to the server about it, don't skim it before it gets there.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 04, 2018, 01:43:23 am
Now that I will agree with.  I'm pretty sure that 20% has become the norm because people are too stupid anymore to figure 15%.

I baseline at 20%.  If a server wants to be nice and humor Mrs. Liberty, they've earned it.

(I've given $0.01 tips, when I'm really pissed, just to let them know I thought about it.)
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: Gefn on December 04, 2018, 01:45:38 am
I schlepped tables in grad school.
I had people who left no tips and who dined and dashed.

Even if the service stinks I’ll tip at least ten percent . I feel like I have to.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: roamer_1 on December 04, 2018, 01:47:17 am
Here’s what to tip in just about any situation, according to dining experts and the people for whom tips really matter.

-Summary-
Sit-down restaurants: 20 percent — always.
Food trucks: Add a buck or two.
Bars: Dollar per drink at dives, 20 percent at cocktail bars.
Bakeries and coffee shops: Add a buck or two.
Fast-casual counter service: 20 percent
Delivery: $5 minimum

So roughly, 20% for personal service, or
throw a buck into community tipping devices (a cup on the counter)...
With maybe a little extra going to the delivery guy (a pretty normal delivery is going to be around $20 charge for dinner for 2... 20% being roughly 4 bucks in that case).

For exemplary service, am I the only guy left who leaves a single penny atop the bills for a tip? Used to be a way to show personal appreciation. I don't know if that is true anymore...

And if the place is stacked up and the wheel is wrapped, understand it has got to cost you plenty to get the waitress to bump the wheel and get you out of there, because she has to split the tip with the cook.

Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 04, 2018, 01:48:23 am
Delivery: $5 minimum

I have a sliding scale for pizza delivery (~$15).  $3.00 baseline, extra buck if it's over 100 degrees, two if it's over 115.  Four if it's over 120.  There is no allowance for service, I assume it's always good if it's within a half hour of the promised time.  When it comes to pizza delivery, I'm the tip expert, and the drivers love me.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: roamer_1 on December 04, 2018, 01:54:17 am
Even if the service stinks I’ll tip at least ten percent . I feel like I have to.

Nope. If the service sucks, then gratuity (gratitude) should not be rendered. That defeats the purpose.
I have under-tipped sub-standard service that didn't exactly suck, but that is rare for me.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: RoosGirl on December 04, 2018, 01:55:29 am
So roughly, 20% for personal service, or
throw a buck into community tipping devices (a cup on the counter)...
With maybe a little extra going to the delivery guy (a pretty normal delivery is going to be around $20 charge for dinner for 2... 20% being roughly 4 bucks in that case).

For exemplary service, am I the only guy left who leaves a single penny atop the bills for a tip? Used to be a way to show personal appreciation. I don't know if that is true anymore...

And if the place is stacked up and the wheel is wrapped, understand it has got to cost you plenty to get the waitress to bump the wheel and get you out of there, because she has to split the tip with the cook.

I've never heard of the penny thing before.

I do the old 15% for adequate, 20% for exemplary.  But it also depends on where we are.  If we're at some place like Dennys or IHOP we don't do percentages for the most part.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 04, 2018, 01:55:57 am
Nope. If the service sucks, then gratuity (gratitude) should not be rendered. That defeats the purpose.
I have under-tipped sub-standard service that didn't exactly suck, but that is rare for me.

"TIP" stands for "To Insure Promptness."  Go from there.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: roamer_1 on December 04, 2018, 01:57:32 am
I have a sliding scale for pizza delivery (~$15).  $3.00 baseline, extra buck if it's over 100 degrees, two if it's over 115.  Four if it's over 120.  There is no allowance for service, I assume it's always good if it's within a half hour of the promised time.  When it comes to pizza delivery, I'm the tip expert, and the drivers love me.

Similar, but the other way around - the more cold and blizzard, the more the spiff... But that is only kinda fair, because in those conditions, the delivery guy is in a full size 4x4 instead of the zippy cars they can usually employ.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 04, 2018, 01:58:34 am
I've never heard of the penny thing before.

I do the old 15% for adequate, 20% for exemplary.  But it also depends on where we are.  If we're at some place like Dennys or IHOP we don't do percentages for the most part.

Yeah, we know the work atmosphere sucks at Denny's and IHOP, so a good, fat tip is vital.  If somebody can smile at me there, they get 20% minimum. 
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 04, 2018, 02:00:42 am
Similar, but the other way around - the more cold and blizzard, the more the spiff... But that is only kinda fair, because in those conditions, the delivery guy is in a full size 4x4 instead of the zippy cars they can usually employ.

Perzackly.  If delivery is tough (for whatever reason), then they get extra whether they had a hard time or not.  These guys will be serving me again someday and I want them to remember me, especially if I'm a long way from the shop.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: corbe on December 04, 2018, 02:04:43 am
Similar, but the other way around - the more cold and blizzard, the more the spiff... But that is only kinda fair, because in those conditions, the delivery guy is in a full size 4x4 instead of the zippy cars they can usually employ.


   @roamer_1 I would think you could just skip disappointing the middleman this time of year and just buy your pizza pre frozen at your local grocery store.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on December 04, 2018, 02:12:12 am
When I was in college one of the local bars had "nickel night" (any silver-ish coin = any well drink).  My party had a simple system.

1) Everyone drinks the same thing all night, something really simple like screwdrivers.
2) Same guy always goes to the bar.
3) Tip a few bucks every round.

Sure, that meant we paid $0.55 for every drink we could have gotten for $0.05 like everyone else.  But then, when the bartender saw me coming he'd stop what he was doing and immediately make my drinks, allowing our order to skip ahead of 20-30 others.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 04, 2018, 02:17:16 am
When I was in college one of the local bars had "nickel night" (any silver-ish coin = any well drink).  My party had a simple system.

1) Everyone drinks the same thing all night, something really simple like screwdrivers.
2) Same guy always goes to the bar.
3) Tip a few bucks every round.

Sure, that meant we paid $0.55 for every drink we could have gotten for $0.05 like everyone else.  But then, when the bartender saw me coming he'd stop what he was doing and immediately make my drinks, allowing our order to skip ahead of 20-30 others.

And that, my friend, is why I tip generously.  When the pizza delivery tip goes higher than the cost of the pizza, that's generous.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: roamer_1 on December 04, 2018, 02:17:36 am

   @roamer_1 I would think you could just skip disappointing the middleman this time of year and just buy your pizza pre frozen at your local grocery store.

Yes @corbe ... The budgetary allotment allows 4 crappy freezer pizzas per month, or the same prerequisite used for the parts and sundries to build my own...And on that note, it is normally way better to build my own than to rely on freezer pizzas... As by the time I am done, I have to jack up the crappy freezer pizza anyway. All it really saves is the time bustin the tube and getting the dough spread out decent...

But ALL of that still entails me doing it... The whole purpose behind delivery is a selfish need for service, which I need, dammit, now and then... Unless there is a lady friend involved, wherein the motive is somewhat otherwise - A show of stable income, a test of trust (let her get it from the guy with my wallet), or a gesture toward giving her a break for the evening (which I did purposefully in my marriage).
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: corbe on December 04, 2018, 02:26:05 am
   So you don't leave an extra $20 on the nightstand cause your eggs were runny?
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: roamer_1 on December 04, 2018, 02:27:27 am
Perzackly.  If delivery is tough (for whatever reason), then they get extra whether they had a hard time or not.  These guys will be serving me again someday and I want them to remember me, especially if I'm a long way from the shop.

Yep. Same with the diners. I tipped well, and paid hard for more work and faster service, when I was in business, and driven by my PIM. Every waitress in town knew who I was by name, and every hostess knew to seat me with a well qualified waitress. Not that I was hard to serve, but if I threw down they had to deliver, and wanted to, because I made very sure they were recompensed for their efforts.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: roamer_1 on December 04, 2018, 02:28:33 am
   So you don't leave an extra $20 on the nightstand cause your eggs were runny?

Depends... Is there some sort of potato?
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 04, 2018, 02:31:23 am
Yes @corbe ... The budgetary allotment allows 4 crappy freezer pizzas per month, or the same prerequisite used for the parts and sundries to build my own...And on that note, it is normally way better to build my own than to rely on freezer pizzas... As by the time I am done, I have to jack up the crappy freezer pizza anyway. All it really saves is the time bustin the tube and getting the dough spread out decent...

But ALL of that still entails me doing it... The whole purpose behind delivery is a selfish need for service, which I need, dammit, now and then... Unless there is a lady friend involved, wherein the motive is somewhat otherwise - A show of stable income, a test of trust (let her get it from the guy with my wallet), or a gesture toward giving her a break for the evening (which I did purposefully in my marriage).

All true.  "Daddoo's dinner Night" = Pizza Delivery.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: GrouchoTex on December 04, 2018, 10:25:01 pm
   If I had enough money to pay your back salary, I'd fire you!

 :cool:
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Tipping at Any Restaurant in America
Post by: GrouchoTex on December 04, 2018, 10:28:17 pm
After a couple of decades of playing in night clubs and bars, I'll even tip 10% when I am not happy.
I've seen too many waiters, waitresses, and bartenders treat terribly over the years.
In Texas, many are paid under minimum wage, because it is expected that they will make it up in tips.