The Briefing Room

General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: mystery-ak on October 06, 2020, 12:20:52 am

Title: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: mystery-ak on October 06, 2020, 12:20:52 am

Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'

"I think it is personal," the Texas senator said about Justice John Roberts' motivation to turn away from the conservative movement with his court decisions


By Sophie Mann

Updated: October 5, 2020 - 12:36pm


Texas GOP Sen. Ted Cruz says Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts "despises Donald Trump," which accounts for a number of the decisions he had made from the top seat on the high court in recent years.

In an appearance on David Brody's recently launched show "The Water Cooler," Senator Cruz, an attorney and author of the new book "One Vote Away: How a Single Supreme Court Seat Can Change History," told the host that "John Roberts has become the new Sandra Day O'Connor."

Cruz said he agrees with Vice President Mike Pence, who in an interview last month, told David Brody that Justice Roberts has been a "disappointment to conservatives."

However, Cruz believes that part of Roberts' pivot away from conservative-minded jurisprudence is motivated by personal hatred toward the president. "I think it is personal," said the senator.

"It is difficult to come up with two human beings more antithetical than John Roberts and Donald Trump, in every respect," he continued.

In addition to the release of his new book, the Senator is presently gearing up to begin the Judiciary Committee confirmation hearings of conservative Supreme Court nominee Judge Amy Coney Barrett.

more
https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/senator-ted-cruz-says-scotus-chief-justice-john-roberts-despises-donald-trump
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: Fishrrman on October 06, 2020, 12:28:56 am
Plausible.

Fortunately, with Amy Barrett on The Court, it will become:
Conservative: 5
Leftist: 3
Roberts: 1

That means even if he joins the lefties, Roberts may still be outvoted on the right most of the time.

All the more reason to get Ms. Barrett confirmed by election day!
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: Absalom on October 06, 2020, 12:56:47 am
Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
"I think it is personal," the Texas senator said about Justice John Roberts' motivation to turn away from the conservative movement with his court decisions
Texas GOP Sen. Ted Cruz says Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts "despises Donald Trump," which accounts for a number of the decisions he had made from the top seat on the high court in recent years.
In an appearance on David Brody's recently launched show "The Water Cooler," Senator Cruz, an attorney and author of the new book "One Vote Away: How a Single Supreme Court Seat Can Change History," told the host that "John Roberts has become the new Sandra Day O'Connor."
Cruz said he agrees with Vice President Mike Pence, who in an interview last month, told David Brody that Justice Roberts has been a "disappointment to conservatives."
However, Cruz believes that part of Roberts' pivot away from conservative-minded jurisprudence is motivated by personal hatred toward the president. "I think it is personal," said the senator.
"It is difficult to come up with two human beings more antithetical than John Roberts and Donald Trump, in every respect," he continued.
In addition to the release of his new book, the Senator is presently gearing up to begin the Judiciary Committee confirmation hearings of conservative Supreme Court nominee Judge Amy Coney Barrett.
--------------------------
Roberts has never been a principled conservative, not for a day.
He was/remains a political type w/his ears and nose geared to "trends".
 
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on October 06, 2020, 02:35:04 am
--------------------------
Roberts has never been a principled conservative, not for a day.
He was/remains a political type w/his ears and nose geared to "trends".
Agreed.

He should be impeached and removed if we had a patriotic Congress
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: Absalom on October 06, 2020, 03:54:59 am
Agreed. He should be impeached and removed if we had a patriotic Congress
----------------------------
Roberts is another of the political hacks who have infested DC; over the past 100 years.
Their interests are themselves, fat wallets and constant attention; as they wouldn't
recognize a Principle if it bit them in the butt and shouted HI!
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 06, 2020, 08:30:09 am
Agreed.

He should be impeached and removed if we had a patriotic Congress
Twice now, he has rewritten the law in order to rule favorably upon it, rather than rule on the actual wording of the law. That's reason for removal, usurping the Legislative Power.
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: Longiron on October 06, 2020, 02:19:51 pm
Agreed.

He should be impeached and removed if we had a patriotic Congress

Might happen when the Maxwell facts are released. Roberts knows that TRUMP is on to him and his pedo obsession. It has been proven already that ROBERTS on the flight log to Epstein Inland. He did not go their to see the beech. :yowsa:
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: bilo on October 06, 2020, 04:59:37 pm
I think Cruz is right that the reason the Pubs fail so much in selecting judges who will remain faithful to the Constitution is they don't exclusively select nominees who have served in the executive branch, been under fire for their conservative beliefs, and remained true to those conservative beliefs. Instead, all too often Pubs select "stealth" candidates, or life long jurists who have never come under sharp media criticism.

Looking at Barrett I'm a little concerned she may be great on Roe v. Wade but not so conservative on other issues.
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: skeeter on October 06, 2020, 05:02:10 pm
I think Cruz is right that the reason the Pubs fail so much in selecting judges who will remain faithful to the Constitution is they don't exclusively select nominees who have served in the executive branch, been under fire for their conservative beliefs, and remained true to those conservative beliefs. Instead, all too often Pubs select "stealth" candidates, or life long jurists who have never come under sharp media criticism.

Looking at Barrett I'm a little concerned she may be great on Roe v. Wade but not so conservative on other issues.

I'm a bit concerned on her recent rulings concerning the Covid lockdowns. I hope Trump has vetted her on that issue.
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: bilo on October 06, 2020, 05:43:23 pm
I'm a bit concerned on her recent rulings concerning the Covid lockdowns. I hope Trump has vetted her on that issue.

I hope so too!

FWIW, if she rules well on Roe v. Wade and strikes down this terrible ruling I will try to temper any problems I have with other rulings.
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: verga on October 06, 2020, 06:28:59 pm
I hope so too!

FWIW, if she rules well on Roe v. Wade and strikes down this terrible ruling I will try to temper any problems I have with other rulings.
:amen:
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: Wingnut on October 06, 2020, 06:48:24 pm
I'm a bit concerned on her recent rulings concerning the Covid lockdowns. I hope Trump has vetted her on that issue.

Yes but remember this Rona bug is going to miraculously start to fade away if I don't know "Shit from Shinola" Joe is elected.   Slightly longer When Trump is reelected.
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: catfish1957 on October 06, 2020, 06:59:30 pm
Also plenty of anecdotal evidence out there that he is compromised by his personal life.  Ever notice he veers left only on the close votes?
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: Absalom on October 06, 2020, 07:56:02 pm
A bone to pick w/posters who toss around the label "Conservative" like a baseball.
Principled Conservatism has absolutely nothing to do w/ideology, politics or religion. NOTHING!
Rather, it is a commitment to a traditional vision of ideas and values that embrace,
among several; the Precept of Prudence, requiring Leaders to measure decisions they take,
in the now, against their consequences in the future. These notions were born more than
5,000 years past from the likes of Sargon, Hammurabi and Plato.
What I, or anyone else, thinks of this or that matter on our current public stage;
hardly determines whether it is or is not, conservative.
The Principles that govern a conservative attitude and behavior were born very long ago.


Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: corbe on October 06, 2020, 08:11:41 pm
   Other than the Tea Party wave of 2011/12 The GOP has had an absence of Conservative Values since perhaps the likes of Goldwater and Reagan. The likes of the Conservative Party (which I voted in 2016) is all but dead on the National Scene, we have indeed reached that proverbial wall. @Absalom
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: skeeter on October 06, 2020, 08:43:40 pm
Yes but remember this Rona bug is going to miraculously start to fade away if I don't know "Shit from Shinola" Joe is elected.   Slightly longer When Trump is reelected.

Understand, and I'm not familiar with the details of the case she heard, but there's little doubt that many states grossly overreached their Constitutional authority in closing down economies, churches, rallies, etc. And a true Constitutionalist jurist would have to agree.
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: corbe on October 06, 2020, 08:57:36 pm
Yes but remember this Rona bug is going to miraculously start to fade away if I don't know "Shit from Shinola" Joe is elected.   Slightly longer When Trump is reelected.

   I see it as quite the opposite @Wingnut as @Right_in_Virginia mentioned this morning, two Covid Negative tests and Trump is gonna rip this fraud wide open.  His opening move was appointing Atlas last week. 
   Now that he's beat this $hit, in 72 hours, he will be on fire.

   
WELCOME BACK AMERICA
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: Absalom on October 06, 2020, 08:57:55 pm
   Other than the Tea Party wave of 2011/12 The GOP has had an absence of Conservative Values since perhaps the likes of Goldwater and Reagan. The likes of the Conservative Party (which I voted in 2016) is all but dead on the National Scene, we have indeed reached that proverbial wall. @Absalom
----------------------------
Corbe, in fact the Southern Agrarian & Rural Democrats of Henry, Lee, Jefferson,
Madison, Monroe, among dozens, were our core Principled Conservatives.
Sadly, that Party was tarred by slavery and destroyed by the Civil War.
Nevertheless, your comment is on the mark!
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: corbe on October 06, 2020, 09:09:19 pm
   Unlike you, @Absalom I wasn't alive during Henry, Lee, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe or even Plato.



   I do always enjoy your musings about the deep Historical Roots of Civilizations as it pertains to NOW.   :beer:


    PS: You should refrain from pizzing off the Trumpers so much. it will make your Life so much more enjoyable here.  Believe me I learned that the hard way, too.
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: corbe on October 06, 2020, 09:15:40 pm
   I miss @libertybele Bigly. She always had my back on these Cruz Threads, no matter how insulting I got.

(http://contentinjection.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Sexy-Trendy-Orange-Lipstick.jpg)

Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: dancer on October 07, 2020, 07:32:02 am
   I miss @libertybele Bigly. She always had my back on these Cruz Threads, no matter how insulting I got.

(http://contentinjection.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Sexy-Trendy-Orange-Lipstick.jpg)
Where is she?  I always enjoyed her posts even when I  didn't agree with her.  Legal American is missing as well.  Roo?  I assume there was a dust up of some kind?  Sorry, mods  but they contributed so much to this site. 
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: DCPatriot on October 07, 2020, 10:02:58 am
Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts [HATES] Donald Trump'

Have some respect please...the thread title has "Cruz" in the title, and here you highjacking.

Are you even aware that had Senator Cruz said this on the forum 4-1/2 ago, he'd be attacked by the MODS?    :silly:

Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: sneakypete on October 07, 2020, 10:33:27 am
Plausible.

Fortunately, with Amy Barrett on The Court, it will become:
Conservative: 5
Leftist: 3
Globalist Homosexual Bastards:1

That means even if he joins the lefties, Roberts may still be outvoted on the right most of the time.

All the more reason to get Ms. Barrett confirmed by election day!

@Fishrrman

There,I fixed your typo for you.
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: sneakypete on October 07, 2020, 10:35:04 am
--------------------------
Quote
Roberts has never been a principled conservative, not for a day.

@Absalom

There is something we can both agree with.
 
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: sneakypete on October 07, 2020, 10:39:42 am


Looking at Barrett I'm a little concerned she may be great on Roe v. Wade but not so conservative on other issues.

@bilo


I see and agree with your point,but on the other hand,we don't want someone so dogmatic the only viewpoint they can see is their own.

SC Justices are supposed to rule on the law as it affects the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights,not their own personal POV,be it left OR right.
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: sneakypete on October 07, 2020, 10:44:31 am
I hope so too!

FWIW, if she rules well on Roe v. Wade and strikes down this terrible ruling I will try to temper any problems I have with other rulings.

@bilo

Judicial tyranny on the right is no better than judicial tyranny from the left.

SC Justices are supposed to serve the to protect the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights,not any personal or religious POV.

We ARE and always have been a secular nation,and we MUST remain that way if we are to remain a free nation and people.
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: Slide Rule on October 07, 2020, 12:50:32 pm
I think Cruz is right that the reason the Pubs fail so much in selecting judges who will remain faithful to the Constitution is they don't exclusively select nominees who have served in the executive branch, been under fire for their conservative beliefs, and remained true to those conservative beliefs. Instead, all too often Pubs select "stealth" candidates, or life long jurists who have never come under sharp media criticism.

Looking at Barrett I'm a little concerned she may be great on Roe v. Wade but not so conservative on other issues.



Sounds like Senator Cruz has uncovered what the Regressive Marxists have on Chief Justice Roberts. Cruz has given Roberts an excuse to retire from the Supremes.

He can take it and keep his supposed integrity intact or be exposed by details.

It would not surprise me if Roberts indicates a general disagreement with Trump and desires to spend more time with his family.

That would be what a proper Chief would do. I will let the editing to Roberts. Republicans will then line up as say nice things about him. That is, a warm good by.

Slide Rule

Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: jafo2010 on October 07, 2020, 11:56:20 pm
Interesting thread.

Chief Justice Roberts is a POS, but what should one expect as a Bush appointee.  Bush was no more conservative than Clinton.

I have zero expectations for Roberts, and I have not seen him adhere to the Constitution whatsoever.  One decision after another by Roberts has been politically driven.  We would never see it, but I am sure privately Bush regrets selecting Roberts.

And I have higher standards than some on this thread to the extent that ending Roe vs Wade would set right a wrong that has stood for nearly 50 years, and that one good act would not wipe out 1,000 aw shits in the meantime.  I expect justices to live and breath the Constitution, and not make it a living document that can morph at the will of political hacks.

And for those hopeful that Trump would drive off Roberts, or that Congress would grow a spine to bounce him from the court, or that he would retire for whatever reason, i.e. spend time with his adopted family, I say GET REAL.  That man will leave the same way the last political hack left, without a heart beat.  So if he is in good health, he could well be there until he is 100 years of age.  And I think he is 65 or so, so he is round for at least another full generation.  Ugggh.

Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: bilo on October 08, 2020, 12:12:22 am
@bilo


I see and agree with your point,but on the other hand,we don't want someone so dogmatic the only viewpoint they can see is their own.

SC Justices are supposed to rule on the law as it affects the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights,not their own personal POV,be it left OR right.

We are in agreement. If the SCOTUS had ruled honestly on Roe v. Wade the first time the issue of abortion would be dealt with on the State level. Like all things with the leftists they won't trust the voters to decide an issue, instead they will mandate  whatever they want from the courts.
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: bilo on October 08, 2020, 12:23:40 am
@bilo

Judicial tyranny on the right is no better than judicial tyranny from the left.

SC Justices are supposed to serve the to protect the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights,not any personal or religious POV.

We ARE and always have been a secular nation,and we MUST remain that way if we are to remain a free nation and people.

You have this backwards. We were always a religious nation and our God given rights were protected by govt.. It's as we've become a non-religious nation that our liberties have increasingly been infringed upon and our culture has fallen into a cesspool.

Sometimes people confuse not having a State Religion with not being religious. It was the obligation of the govt. to insure the free exercise of religion not the end of it. Throughout our history numerous branches of Christianity had prospered as well as different branches of Judaism. Our Constitution and form of govt was draw from Christian Judeo values and Scripture itself. Scripture used to be taught in public Schools and the day began with prayer. Treating religion as a toxic element that must be separated from our public discourse has led to the decline we see today.   
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: bilo on October 08, 2020, 12:25:19 am

Sounds like Senator Cruz has uncovered what the Regressive Marxists have on Chief Justice Roberts. Cruz has given Roberts an excuse to retire from the Supremes.

He can take it and keep his supposed integrity intact or be exposed by details.

It would not surprise me if Roberts indicates a general disagreement with Trump and desires to spend more time with his family.


I wouldn't hold my breath.
That would be what a proper Chief would do. I will let the editing to Roberts. Republicans will then line up as say nice things about him. That is, a warm good by.

Slide Rule
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: bilo on October 08, 2020, 12:33:53 am
Interesting thread.

Chief Justice Roberts is a POS, but what should one expect as a Bush appointee.  Bush was no more conservative than Clinton.

I have zero expectations for Roberts, and I have not seen him adhere to the Constitution whatsoever.  One decision after another by Roberts has been politically driven.  We would never see it, but I am sure privately Bush regrets selecting Roberts.

And I have higher standards than some on this thread to the extent that ending Roe vs Wade would set right a wrong that has stood for nearly 50 years, and that one good act would not wipe out 1,000 aw shits in the meantime.  I expect justices to live and breath the Constitution, and not make it a living document that can morph at the will of political hacks.

And for those hopeful that Trump would drive off Roberts, or that Congress would grow a spine to bounce him from the court, or that he would retire for whatever reason, i.e. spend time with his adopted family, I say GET REAL.  That man will leave the same way the last political hack left, without a heart beat.  So if he is in good health, he could well be there until he is 100 years of age.  And I think he is 65 or so, so he is round for at least another full generation.  Ugggh.

Couldn't agree with you more. Our problem is the leftists that get appointed have no issue with ignoring the Constitution, precedent, or the plain meaning of a law they are ruling on. So Pubs try to appoint people that are sound on the law and say they will rule based on the law. As a result we end up with garbage like Souter and even Roberts. I think Cruz is spot on in the things he wants to see from a nominee. If they've been under critical scrutiny from the left and haven't wavered we have better odds of seeing strict constructionists turn the court around.

Who knows with luck Trump may get to nominate a 4th justice in his 2nd term. So far his track record has been better than most Pub POTUS.
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: Fishrrman on October 08, 2020, 12:43:32 am
Sneakin' Pete postulates:
"Judicial tyranny on the right is no better than judicial tyranny from the left."

I can state unequivocally that if given a choice, I much prefer the "tyranny on the right", thank you very much, Pete.

And I really DO mean that, exactly as posted.
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: sneakypete on October 08, 2020, 05:16:58 am
Sneakin' Pete postulates:
"Judicial tyranny on the right is no better than judicial tyranny from the left."

I can state unequivocally that if given a choice, I much prefer the "tyranny on the right", thank you very much, Pete.

And I really DO mean that, exactly as posted.

@Fishrrman

At least you are  honest about it,no matter how wrong you are.
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: christian on October 15, 2020, 02:29:31 pm
Roberts whored the great whore to legitimize Obamacare, I couldn't believe he made it to the Supreme Court !  Can YOU?
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: DCPatriot on October 15, 2020, 02:36:21 pm
Roberts whored the great whore to legitimize Obamacare, I couldn't believe he made it to the Supreme Court !  Can YOU?

I don't understand how he was immediately made the "Chief Justice", being the 'rookie' among them.

Welcome to TBR!   :beer:
Title: Re: Senator Cruz says Chief Justice John Roberts 'despises Donald Trump'
Post by: sneakypete on October 15, 2020, 04:04:44 pm
I don't understand how he was immediately made the "Chief Justice", being the 'rookie' among them.

Welcome to TBR!   :beer:

@DCPatriot

I do. The majority of the SC Justices were appointed by "out" leftists or that RINO Boy Jorge, who nominated his homo pal. They were all too old to control the board for long,so they gave the MUCH younger new guy the crown.