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General Category => National/Breaking News => Topic started by: DCPatriot on July 20, 2020, 07:38:55 am
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Federal judge's son shot and killed, husband injured in attack at their NJ home
Judge Esther Salas, who serves on the federal bench in New Jersey, was not hurt.
ByJosh Margolin and Aaron Katersky
July 19, 2020, 11:13 PM
4 min read
The son of a federal judge in Newark, New Jersey, has been shot and killed, and her husband shot and injured in an attack at the family's home, according to law enforcement sources.
The judge, Esther Salas, was not hurt.
Francis "Mac" Womack, the mayor of North Brunswick, New Jersey, tells ABC News that the judge's son has died.
The condition of husband was not immediately known, Middlesex County Prosecutor Yolanda Ciccone told ABC News.
The judge's son opened the door to the family's North Brunswick home at about 5 p.m. Sunday and was immediately shot, sources said.
"He was shot through the heart," Womack said. The son was a freshman at Catholic University.
excerpt....more at link
https://abcnews.go.com/US/federal-judges-son-shot-killed-husband-injured-attack/story?id=71871708&fbclid=IwAR0P8RZoUqF4af56JaeO5BC79f_Bvj2jHp2o1Cxd2bvPa1pL77M7jYmLIpk (https://abcnews.go.com/US/federal-judges-son-shot-killed-husband-injured-attack/story?id=71871708&fbclid=IwAR0P8RZoUqF4af56JaeO5BC79f_Bvj2jHp2o1Cxd2bvPa1pL77M7jYmLIpk)
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Gunman dressed as FedEx deliveryman shoots husband and son of federal judge Esther Salas at their New Jersey home, killing the son. Salas was in the basement and not injured.
FYI.... Jeffrey Epstein Deutsche Bank case assigned to Judge Salas just two days ago.
Motive unknown - NBC/ABC
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Salas is the Judge on the Monsanto trial. Interesting, is it not? Deutch Bank/ Epstein money laundering, too. Hmmm.
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https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/07/16/2063666/0/en/DEUTSCHE-BANK-DEADLINE-ALERT-Faruqi-Faruqi-LLP-Encourages-Investors-Who-Suffered-Losses-Exceeding-250-000-In-Deutsche-Bank-Aktiengesellschaft-To-Contact-The-Firm.html?fbclid=IwAR1DkYLYvugsGsk77EU9cWwjBYoobDz02u4E8QyYRcOen6LT_-3jENUTTd4 (https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/07/16/2063666/0/en/DEUTSCHE-BANK-DEADLINE-ALERT-Faruqi-Faruqi-LLP-Encourages-Investors-Who-Suffered-Losses-Exceeding-250-000-In-Deutsche-Bank-Aktiengesellschaft-To-Contact-The-Firm.html?fbclid=IwAR1DkYLYvugsGsk77EU9cWwjBYoobDz02u4E8QyYRcOen6LT_-3jENUTTd4)
DEUTSCHE BANK DEADLINE ALERT: Faruqi & Faruqi, LLP Encourages Investors Who Suffered Losses Exceeding $250,000 In Deutsche Bank Aktiengesellschaft To Contact The Firm
NEW YORK, July 16, 2020 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Faruqi & Faruqi, LLP, a leading national securities law firm, reminds investors in Deutsche Bank Aktiengesellschaft (“Deutsche Bank†or the “Companyâ€) (NYSE:DB) of the September 14, 2020 deadline to seek the role of lead plaintiff in a federal securities class action that has been filed against the Company.
If you invested in Deutsche Bank stock or options between November 7, 2017 and July 6, 2020 and would like to discuss your legal rights, click here: www.faruqilaw.com/DB (http://www.faruqilaw.com/DB). There is no cost or obligation to you.
You can also contact us by calling Richard Gonnello toll free at 877-247-4292 or at 212-983-9330 or by sending an e-mail to rgonnello@faruqilaw.com.
CONTACT:
FARUQI & FARUQI, LLP
685 Third Avenue, 26th Floor
New York, NY 10017
Attn: Richard Gonnello, Esq.
rgonnello@faruqilaw.com
Telephone: (877) 247-4292 or (212) 983-9330
The lawsuit has been filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey on behalf of all those who purchased Deutsche Bank securities between November 7, 2017 and July 6, 2020 (the “Class Periodâ€). The case, Karimi v. Deutsche Bank Aktiengesellschaft et al., No. 20-cv-08978 was filed on July 15, 2020, and has been assigned to Judge Esther Salas.
The lawsuit focuses on whether the Company and its executives violated federal securities laws by making false and/or misleading statements and/or failing to disclose that:
(1) Deutsche Bank had failed to remediate deficiencies related to AML, its disclosure controls and procedures and internal control over financial reporting, and its U.S. operations’ troubled condition;
(2) as a result, the Bank failed to properly monitor customers that the Bank itself deemed to be high risk, including, among others, the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein (“Epsteinâ€) and two correspondent banks, Danske Estonia and FBME Bank, which were both the subjects of prior scandals involving financial misconduct;
(3) the foregoing, once revealed, was foreseeably likely to have a material negative impact on the Bank’s financial results and reputation; and
(4) as a result, the Bank’s public statements were materially false and misleading at all relevant times.
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Salas is the Judge on the Monsanto trial. Interesting, is it not?
What's the "over and under" for how many days before Judge Salas recuses herself from the case.
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WTF Briefers??
If "Ted Cruz" was in the title, this would already be three pages deep.
1) Judge Salas was appointed to the Deutsche Bank (Jeffrey Epstein) case only TWO DAYS AGO!
2) Her 18 year old son was shot dead answering the door to a uniformed FED EX person
3) Her husband was shot multiple times.
BUEHLER? BUEHLER?? ANYONE???
Y'all are something else. *****rollingeyes*****
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WTF Briefers??
If "Ted Cruz" was in the title, this would already be three pages deep.
1) Judge Salas was appointed to the Deutsche Bank (Jeffrey Epstein) case only TWO DAYS AGO!
2) Her 18 year old son was shot dead answering the door to a uniformed FED EX person
3) Her husband was shot multiple times.
BUEHLER? BUEHLER?? ANYONE???
Y'all are something else. *****rollingeyes*****
Your gonna either have to connect to dots for me or let me finish my first cup of coffee. Why blow away the judges family before she's even heard the case, and what would they have to gain by forcing her to recuse herself?
I did notice ABC attempted to imply racism as the motive.
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I think we’re going to find this is about a grievance over a past case, not a pending case. Killing her or her family does not exert influence over a pending case...that’s removing all avenues of pressure.
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WTF Briefers??
If "Ted Cruz" was in the title, this would already be three pages deep.
1) Judge Salas was appointed to the Deutsche Bank (Jeffrey Epstein) case only TWO DAYS AGO!
2) Her 18 year old son was shot dead answering the door to a uniformed FED EX person
3) Her husband was shot multiple times.
BUEHLER? BUEHLER?? ANYONE???
Y'all are something else. *****rollingeyes*****
@DCPatriot, you started this thread at "12:38:55 AM", my local time. Your post just before the one quoted above is time-stamped "01:09:31 AM", my local time. So my answer to your "WTF" is that I have a life. As do others here on TBR! And as weird as your post indicates it is to you, not all TBR members share your special interests.
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@DCPatriot : consider decaf. It's quite tasty. :beer:
I guess the judge put away several gang members. Definitely a hit of some sort... but if it's a hit on a judge, they missed their target no? Amateur hour if true, didn't even get the gender right.
Or something else entirely. I'm intrigued as to what this might be.
Trump fault though. Also racism. :D
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WTF Briefers??
If "Ted Cruz" was in the title, this would already be three pages deep.
1) Judge Salas was appointed to the Deutsche Bank (Jeffrey Epstein) case only TWO DAYS AGO!
2) Her 18 year old son was shot dead answering the door to a uniformed FED EX person
3) Her husband was shot multiple times.
BUEHLER? BUEHLER?? ANYONE???
Y'all are something else. *****rollingeyes*****
:shrug: Ghislane ain't playin.
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Federal Judge’s Son Shot Dead and Her Defense Attorney Husband Critically Injured Just Days After Taking Jeffrey Epstein Finances Case
By Cristina Laila
Published July 19, 2020 at 11:36pm
The 20-year-old son of US District Judge of New Jersey, Esther Salas, an Obama appointee, was shot dead Sunday night and her husband was critically injured by a gunman posing as a FedEx driver.
According to reports, Salas’s son Daniel Anderl opened the door when the the gunman, dressed as a FedEx driver, opened fire on their North Brunswick home Sunday evening around 5 PM.
The judge’s husband, Mark Anderl, 63, a criminal defense attorney was standing behind his son when he opened the door and is in critical condition in a hospital.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/federal-judges-son-shot-dead-defense-attorney-husband-critically-injured-just-days-assigned-case-linked-jeffrey-epstein/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/federal-judges-son-shot-dead-defense-attorney-husband-critically-injured-just-days-assigned-case-linked-jeffrey-epstein/)
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Have the Clintons added another notch to their holster?
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Your gonna either have to connect to dots for me or let me finish my first cup of coffee. Why blow away the judges family before she's even heard the case, and what would they have to gain by forcing her to recuse herself?
I did notice ABC attempted to imply racism as the motive.
@skeeter
The only thing I can come up with is that MAYBE it is related to another case and the people coming on trial want a "more friendly" judge and/or a delay in the trial.
Or MAYBE (I have no idea if this is true or not) there is a "roster that available judges get case assignments from,and they wanted her whacked because the next judge in line is more to their liking for whatever reasons?
Pure speculation on my part. I have no idea how judge and trial assignments are made.
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@skeeter
The only thing I can come up with is that MAYBE it is related to another case and the people coming on trial want a "more friendly" judge and/or a delay in the trial.
Or MAYBE (I have no idea if this is true or not) there is a "roster that available judges get case assignments from,and they wanted her whacked because the next judge in line is more to their liking for whatever reasons?
Pure speculation on my part. I have no idea how judge and trial assignments are made.
I think you and WTF are right - this hit has more to do with some punk-arse gang. I think every piece of urban trash in the nation is about to come off the chain.
Thanks to the rats, anarchists and gutless republicans.
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I think you and WTF are right - this hit has more to do with some punk-arse gang. I think every piece of urban trash in the nation is about to come off the chain.
Thanks to the rats, anarchists and gutless republicans.
The problem with the Epstein connection is... what is the motivation? How does killing the son and husband of a judge (or just the husband) help your case? I don't see it.
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The problem with the Epstein connection is... what is the motivation? How does killing the son and husband of a judge (or just the husband) help your case? I don't see it.
The Deutsche Bank case to which she was recently assigned is a shareholder lawsuit claiming a wide range of bad practices that boosted the bank's stock. Mishandling Epstein $$ was a small part of those bad practices. So it is not impossible that this was related to the Deutsche Bank case, but the judge has handled a good number of cases in her 7 years or so in that position. Or maybe the killer was actually going after her son (who was actually killed). Or maybe a rando Antifoid/BLMer learned a Federal judge lived in the house and wanted to hurt the judge's family.
Conclusion-Jumping is not an Olympic event.
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Dead Attorney in NY Eyed in Killing of NJ Federal Judge's Son, Shooting of Her Husband: Sources. (Updated story)
Authorities believe an attorney found dead in New York Monday was the shooter who killed a New Jersey federal judge's son and wounded her husband a day earlier, law enforcement sources with knowledge of the case tell News 4.
The man's body was found on a property in the Sullivan County town of Rockland, near Liberty, which is in the New York Catskills. One senior law enforcement official says authorities are looking into whether there was a package or envelope addressed to the judge found near the man, who may have died of self-inflicted gunshot wounds. The official said the FBI, US Marshals and police were at the scene, while a vehicle the man was thought to have been using is being searched at a nearby State Police barracks.
They are also investigating whether a gun found at the scene matches the one used to kill Judge Esther Salas' son and wound her husband, law enforcement sources say. Two sources described the dead man as an attorney who filed various sorts of civil lawsuits over the years; no other details were available.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/dead-man-in-ny-may-be-tied-to-killing-of-nj-federal-judges-son-shooting-of-her-husband-sources/2521563/ (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/dead-man-in-ny-may-be-tied-to-killing-of-nj-federal-judges-son-shooting-of-her-husband-sources/2521563/)
Breaking
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Maybe the son or the husband was the actual target. Or maybe it had nothing to do with Epstein at all, but with another defendant over whose case the judge presided. I don't jump so well, let alone to conclusions, and will resist the temptation here.
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Merged two threads.
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Maybe the son or the husband was the actual target. Or maybe it had nothing to do with Epstein at all, but with another defendant over whose case the judge presided. I don't jump so well, let alone to conclusions, and will resist the temptation here.
The judge who’s son died had some pretty high profile trials, including a real housewives trial according to the above article
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Dead Attorney in NY Eyed in Killing of NJ Federal Judge's Son, Shooting of Her Husband: Sources. (Updated story)
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/dead-man-in-ny-may-be-tied-to-killing-of-nj-federal-judges-son-shooting-of-her-husband-sources/2521563/ (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/dead-man-in-ny-may-be-tied-to-killing-of-nj-federal-judges-son-shooting-of-her-husband-sources/2521563/)
Breaking
@Gefn
WOW! I have heard of "convenient circumstances" before,but this is taking it to a whole new level!
Case solved. Nothing to see here folks,go back home!
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Must have something to do with Blackmail? Will judge recuse?
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When facts inconvenience a preferred narrative, go with the facts. At this point, sounds like the killer was a POed vexatious litigant rather than someone connected to the Epstein mess.
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Dead Attorney in NY Eyed in Killing of NJ Federal Judge's Son, Shooting of Her Husband: Sources. (Updated story)
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/dead-man-in-ny-may-be-tied-to-killing-of-nj-federal-judges-son-shooting-of-her-husband-sources/2521563/ (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/dead-man-in-ny-may-be-tied-to-killing-of-nj-federal-judges-son-shooting-of-her-husband-sources/2521563/)
Breaking
Of course.
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Authorities believe an attorney found dead in New York Monday was the shooter who killed a New Jersey federal judge's son and wounded her husband a day earlier, law enforcement sources with knowledge of the case tell News 4.
The man's body was found on a property in the Sullivan County town of Rockland, near Liberty, which is in the New York Catskills. One senior law enforcement official says authorities are looking into whether there was a package or envelope addressed to the judge found near the man, who may have died of self-inflicted gunshot wounds. The official said the FBI, US Marshals and police were at the scene, while a vehicle the man was thought to have been using is being searched at a nearby State Police barracks.
They are also investigating whether a gun found at the scene matches the one used to kill Judge Esther Salas' son and wound her husband, law enforcement sources say. Two sources described the dead man as an attorney who filed various sorts of civil lawsuits over the years; no other details were available.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/dead-man-in-ny-may-be-tied-to-killing-of-nj-federal-judges-son-shooting-of-her-husband-sources/2521563/ (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/dead-man-in-ny-may-be-tied-to-killing-of-nj-federal-judges-son-shooting-of-her-husband-sources/2521563/)
Let's have the suspected perp's name.
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Another media source. Apparently, has nothing to do with Epstein, although some around here won't believe it.
Gunman who shot N.J. judge’s son to death and wounded her husband is lawyer who once had case before her: reports
The gunman, dressed as a FedEx delivery driver, who shot and critically wounded the husband of a federal judge in New Jersey and killed her son is believed to be a lawyer who had a case before the judge in 2015, according to reports.
After knocking on the North Brunswick, N.J. home of U.S. District Judge Esther Salas, and riddling her husband and son with bullets, the killer appears to have taken his life in Liberty, N.J., according to ABC.
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-judge-husband-son-shot-new-jersey-20200720-3n44ra6e4re77doaynwyo4gjxy-story.html (https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-judge-husband-son-shot-new-jersey-20200720-3n44ra6e4re77doaynwyo4gjxy-story.html)
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https://heavy.com/news/2020/07/roy-den-hollander/
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Roy Den Hollander, a well-known men’s rights attorney and self-described “anti-feminist,†is suspected of being the gunman who shot the husband and son of New Jersey federal Judge Esther Salas in the doorway of the family’s home in North Brunswick.
Authorities have not released Hollander’s name publicly. Daily Beast first reported the name via law enforcement sources. Multiple news outlets are reporting that the suspected shooter is a lawyer.
Hollander had long involved himself in unusual and publicity seeking men’s rights causes. In 2016, Hollander sued various national news reporters in the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, including Chuck Todd of NBC’s Meet the Press, New York Times’ commentator David Brooks, and Major Garrett of CBS. He accused them of violating the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act by allegedly committing “wire fraud†because he wrote they created and caused “to be broadcast and disseminated false and misleading news reports concerning the Donald J. Trump candidacy for President of the United States.†You can see the full complaint here.
More at URL above...
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https://heavy.com/news/2020/07/roy-den-hollander/
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Roy Den Hollander, a well-known men’s rights attorney and self-described “anti-feminist,†is suspected of being the gunman who shot the husband and son of New Jersey federal Judge Esther Salas in the doorway of the family’s home in North Brunswick.
Authorities have not released Hollander’s name publicly. Daily Beast first reported the name via law enforcement sources. Multiple news outlets are reporting that the suspected shooter is a lawyer.
Hollander had long involved himself in unusual and publicity seeking men’s rights causes. In 2016, Hollander sued various national news reporters in the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, including Chuck Todd of NBC’s Meet the Press, New York Times’ commentator David Brooks, and Major Garrett of CBS. He accused them of violating the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act by allegedly committing “wire fraud†because he wrote they created and caused “to be broadcast and disseminated false and misleading news reports concerning the Donald J. Trump candidacy for President of the United States.†You can see the full complaint here.
More at URL above...
Oh boy here we go.
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Thanks, all!
As with virtually every "breaking news" piece, no actual 'truth' is contained in the race to get to the telephone booths (like in the old days of reporting)
The Daily Mail reported earlier today that the husband had done pro-bono cases for "The Bloods".
At first I thought it was pure intimidation to get a favorable ruling or even a recusal in the Deutsche Bank case which led me to believe had Epstein's child pornography blackmail/extortion of famous people visiting and filmed at his "Fantasy Island".
@PeteS in CA LOL! Go back to sleep.
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Gunman dressed as FedEx deliveryman shoots husband and son of federal judge Esther Salas at their New Jersey home, killing the son. Salas was in the basement and not injured.
FYI.... Jeffrey Epstein Deutsche Bank case assigned to Judge Salas just two days ago.
Motive unknown - NBC/ABC
Wow, there is the motive!
Tony Scalia, supreme court, was done it by deep state too.
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Oh boy here we go.
Yep lol... had it been a BLMer/Antifa-er, it would have been memory holed very quickly, as this guy is anti-feminist we get 4 weeks of #metoo crap now. Anyway, condolences to the judge, it's a horrible situation all around.
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Yep lol... had it been a BLMer/Antifa-er, it would have been memory holed very quickly, as this guy is anti-feminist we get 4 weeks of #metoo crap now. Anyway, condolences to the judge, it's a horrible situation all around.
Yep... just heard the boy...only child... was a freshman at Catholic University here in Washington, D.C., and his parents adored him. **nononono*
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I don't know if anyone remembers it, but in 2015 we had a BLMer in Dallas kill 7 cops in one night. How come the media hasn't mentioned that one?
Anyone remember that incident?
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This Thread needs more Rubio!
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This Thread needs more Rubio!
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@corbe MORE COWBELL
It needs more cowbell
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I don't know if anyone remembers it, but in 2015 we had a BLMer in Dallas kill 7 cops in one night. How come the media hasn't mentioned that one?
Anyone remember that incident?
Yeah. I also remember the NFL forbid the Dallas Cowboys from adorning their uniforms with markers of respect for those officers.
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Let's have the suspected perp's name.
The article, https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/dead-man-in-ny-may-be-tied-to-killing-of-nj-federal-judges-son-shooting-of-her-husband-sources/2521563/ (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/dead-man-in-ny-may-be-tied-to-killing-of-nj-federal-judges-son-shooting-of-her-husband-sources/2521563/) , was updated within the past few minutes:
Authorities believe an attorney found dead in New York Monday was the shooter who killed a New Jersey federal judge's son and wounded her husband a day earlier, law enforcement sources with knowledge of the case tell News 4.
And now authorities are also looking into his possible connection to the death of another prominent men's rights figure in California earlier this month, sources say.
The body, identified by sources as attorney Roy Den Hollander, was found on a property in the Sullivan County town of Rockland, near Liberty, which is in the New York Catskills. ...
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When facts inconvenience a preferred narrative, go with the facts. At this point, sounds like the killer was a POed vexatious litigant rather than someone connected to the Epstein mess.
Dead attorneys make great suspects (and they can't represent themselves, either).
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When facts inconvenience a preferred narrative, go with the facts. At this point, sounds like the killer was a POed vexatious litigant rather than someone connected to the Epstein mess.
Gonna have to go with Pete on this one... The fellow wrote some 1700 pages on his beef... you don't just do that with cancer and stage this for the Clinton Show.
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Gonna have to go with Pete on this one... The fellow wrote some 1700 pages on his beef... you don't just do that with cancer and stage this for the Clinton Show.
1,700 pages? Wow.
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1,700 pages? Wow.
Must have repeated himself a lot. Could have been a good political forum dude.
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Must have repeated himself a lot. Could have been a good political forum dude.
Hey! I resemble that remark! :silly:
About the apparent perp (has it been confirmed he did it?):
https://heavy.com/news/2020/07/roy-den-hollander-book-esther-salas/
New Jersey Murder Suspect Roy Den Hollander’s Book Trashed Judge Esther Salas
Roy Den Hollander, the men’s rights attorney and self-described “anti-feminist,†insulted federal Judge Esther Salas and repeatedly referred to her race in an online book before authorities suspect he showed up at her door and shot her husband and son, killing the latter.
He called the judge “a lazy and incompetent Latina judge appointed by Obama,†called her “hot,†checked out her biography, and wrote that he “wanted to ask the Judge out, but thought she might hold me in contempt.†He also criticized her handling of a case in which he was an attorney challenging the male-only military draft in her court.
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It wasn’t only Judge Salas who was the object of Den Hollander’s ire in his online writings. In some of his online writings, he expressed hatred for his mother. He called judges appointed by Obama “Obamite bigots.â€
The dedication page to his self-published book says that his mother should burn in hell.
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According to a New York Times article, Hollander once “sued the federal government over a law that protects women from violence.†He also called Columbia University’s women’s studies program “a bastion of bigotry against men†and said it “demonizes men and exalts women in order to justify discrimination against men based on collective guilt.â€
He alleged in court that parts of the federal Violence Against Women Act were unconstitutional.
Sounds like he was the kind of bigot Hillary claimed 1/4 of US voters are.
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The guy is also a suspect in this case:
https://abc7.com/new-jersey-judge-shooting-crestline-marc-angelucci-anti-feminist/6326666/
Crestline attorney's murder may be linked to shooting at NJ judge's home
CRESTLINE, Calif. (KABC) -- The murder of an attorney in Crestline earlier this month bears similarities and may be linked to the shooting of a judge's son and husband in New Jersey, law enforcement sources say.
Attorney Marc Angelucci, 52, was gunned down at his home on Saturday July 11 around 4 p.m. Deputies responded to a reported shooting in the 22400 block of Glenwood Drive and found Angelucci there, unresponsive and suffering from gunshot wounds. He was pronounced dead at the scene.
It is believed the shooter was wearing a FedEx uniform.
Angelucci was a men's rights activist and board member of the Los Angeles chapter of the National Coalition for Men.
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The guy is also a suspect in this case:
https://abc7.com/new-jersey-judge-shooting-crestline-marc-angelucci-anti-feminist/6326666/
Crestline attorney's murder may be linked to shooting at NJ judge's home
Sounds like the guy had issues that may well have stoked the fires of resentment to the point where he just snapped.
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Sounds like the guy had issues that may well have stoked the fires of resentment to the point where he just snapped.
@Smokin Joe
I think he was already snapped,and had been sliding down that hillside for years.
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@Smokin Joe
I think he was already snapped,and had been sliding down that hillside for years.
Maybe. He wasn't running on all eight.
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From what I've read, he apparently received a cancer diagnosis. The speculation is that he decided to take out a few people he HATED since he was not long for this world.
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From what I've read, he apparently received a cancer diagnosis. The speculation is that he decided to take out a few people he HATED since he was not long for this world.
It's a sad deal, all around. Prayers up for the survivors, whoever they are.
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UPDATE
Roy Den Hollander reportedly had a hit list of over a dozen targets
By Lee Brown
July 26, 2020 | 12:47pm | Updated
The crazed “anti-feminist†lawyer who gunned down a New Jersey federal judge’s son had a list of more than a dozen other targets for his killing spree — including at least three other judges, according to reports.
Roy Den Hollander, 72, killed himself after posing as a FedEx driver for his July 19 ambush on Judge Esther Salas’ North Brunswick home — killing her 20-year-old son and wounding her 63-year-old husband.
Officials in California now believe he had earlier traveled to San Bernardino and killed rival men’s rights attorney Marc Angelucci on July 11 — also posing as a deliveryman and shooting him dead on his doorstep.
When Den Hollander was found dead Monday in New York’s Catskills region of an apparently self-inflicted gunshot, he left a rambling online manifesto railing against women — as well as a possible kill list, sources said. ...
Story at New York Post (https://nypost.com/2020/07/26/roy-den-hollander-had-a-hit-list-of-more-than-a-dozen-targets-report/)
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Inside the violent and misogynistic world of Roy Den Hollander
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Inside-the-Violent-and-Misogynistic-World-of-Roy-15435721.php (https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Inside-the-Violent-and-Misogynistic-World-of-Roy-15435721.php)
Roy Den Hollander sounded bitter and angry when he bumped into a former rugby teammate in December at a library in Manhattan. He said he was so sick from a rare cancer that he could die at any moment, wondering aloud if he should sue his doctor for malpractice.
Things kept getting worse for Den Hollander, a self-described “anti-feminist†lawyer who was known for his misogynistic tirades and the dozens of lawsuits he filed, many frivolous. A Manhattan judge dismissed one of them in May, and a few weeks later, a federal judge in New Jersey named Esther Salas canceled a scheduled hearing in a different suit.
The delay followed years of resentment that he had harbored against Salas over his unfounded claim that she was moving the case too slowly. That, in turn, built upon a lifetime of seething hatred toward women: He accused his mother of preventing him from having a girlfriend, and his ex-wife of marrying him only to obtain a green card.
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His beliefs swirled between the worlds of self-proclaimed anti-feminists and men’s rights activists. He ranted about what he perceived to be gender discrimination against men in family courts and other institutions, a focus of men’s rights activists, but also wrote blog posts calling for women to be killed.
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But by the end of his life, he was a man alone, facing terminal cancer, financial instability and a growing ostracization from the legal community and advocates for men’s rights, according to his writings and interviews with a dozen people who spoke with him in the past four decades.
I've said it multiple ways - not that it's unique insight - nurtured anger, bitterness, and hatred destroy the one who is angry, bitter, and hates.
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Inside the violent and misogynistic world of Roy Den Hollander
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Inside-the-Violent-and-Misogynistic-World-of-Roy-15435721.php (https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Inside-the-Violent-and-Misogynistic-World-of-Roy-15435721.php)
I've said it multiple ways - not that it's unique insight - nurtured anger, bitterness, and hatred destroy the one who is angry, bitter, and hates.
True about anger and hate.
But there are some family courts with definite bias against men.
And the womyn at Social Services are programmed with that crap.
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UPDATE
In emotional video, Judge Salas asks to protect federal judges' personal information
"Now more than ever, we need to identify a solution that keeps the lives of federal judges private," said U.S. District Judge Esther Salas.
Suzanne Russell
Bridgewater Courier News
Aug. 3, 2020NORTH BRUNSWICK – Federal Judge Esther Salas has spoken for the first time publicly about a shooting at her township home last month in which authorities say a disgruntled lawyer killed her son and seriously wounded her husband.
In a video statement issued Monday, Salas called for more privacy for federal judges in the wake of the July 19 attack at her home.
She noted that serving as judge involves “making tough calls†that sometimes leave people angry and upset. But she said judges should not have to “live in fear for our lives†because personal information, such as home addresses, can be easily obtained by anyone seeking to do them or their families harm. ...
Rest of story and video at link (https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/2020/08/03/judge-salas-releases-statement-north-brunswick-shooting/5570934002/).
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UPDATE
In emotional video, Judge Salas asks to protect federal judges' personal information
"Now more than ever, we need to identify a solution that keeps the lives of federal judges private," said U.S. District Judge Esther Salas.
Suzanne Russell
Bridgewater Courier News
Aug. 3, 2020Rest of story and video at link (https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/2020/08/03/judge-salas-releases-statement-north-brunswick-shooting/5570934002/).
This was the top story this morning here, it’s being pushed off due to the hurricane. Shame, it’s important too.
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True about anger and hate.
But there are some family courts with definite bias against men.
And the womyn at Social Services are programmed with that crap.
Everyone with a gender axe to grind needs to do a little soul searching - both mysoginists, which society has repudiated; and misandrists, which has been made (in today’s parlance) systemic.
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Yes, I know Judge Salas is an Obama appointee, but no mother deserves to lose her only son and nearly lose her husband to senseless violence. I'm thinking these days, judges need more than protection of their personal information. They need 24/7 bodyguards for themselves and their families. Plenty of loose screws out there.
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Everyone with a gender axe to grind needs to do a little soul searching - both mysoginists, which society has repudiated; and misandrists, which has been made (in today’s parlance) systemic.
If you have a gender axe to grind. But how about the guy who signs his kids up for a private school, makes the payment, then is gigged by Social Services for not enrolling his kids in school. He goes back to the Private School and they hand him his check back (which was good), even though the kids had been accepted as students.
After trying to straighten that out, the kids end up in custody of the meth head mom, he ends up paying her child support.
Fifteen years later, one of the kids is doing 20 to life, and the other has a jail cell with his name on it. Mom is still alive but burnt out, and dad had spent six figures on legal fees in the meantime trying to get custody.
This isn't hypothetical, I know the people involved. It isn't the only case, either. It is extremely difficult for the father to get custody of the children in a divorce, even if he shows cause.
The bias is real.
I'm not saying Judge Salas practiced that, nor that she deserves to lose her son or have anyone in her family harmed, including herself, just that some judges are biased.
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If you have a gender axe to grind. But how about the guy who signs his kids up for a private school, makes the payment, then is gigged by Social Services for not enrolling his kids in school. He goes back to the Private School and they hand him his check back (which was good), even though the kids had been accepted as students.
After trying to straighten that out, the kids end up in custody of the meth head mom, he ends up paying her child support.
Fifteen years later, one of the kids is doing 20 to life, and the other has a jail cell with his name on it. Mom is still alive but burnt out, and dad had spent six figures on legal fees in the meantime trying to get custody.
This isn't hypothetical, I know the people involved. It isn't the only case, either. It is extremely difficult for the father to get custody of the children in a divorce, even if he shows cause.
The bias is real.
Of course the bias is real - I've got a handful associates who've experienced it in the courts first hand, as well. What I'm talking about is the mentally corrosive effect of carrying the hate around. Exhibit A this embittered attorney.
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Of course the bias is real - I've got a handful associates who've experienced it in the courts first hand, as well. What I'm talking about is the mentally corrosive effect of carrying the hate around. Exhibit A this embittered attorney.
Hate eats the hater from within, it is corrosive, as you describe. My friends who have endured this sort of bias and the life altering effects it has had on them and their children, and frankly the rest of their lives don't live and breathe their resentments, but partition them off. Mention the topic, and that door gets opened, but otherwise, you won't see it. It's how they survive.
Seeing that, and thankfully not going through it firsthand, I can see how someone who just. can't. move. on. would lose it. The effect on all the lives involved can be profound indeed, no violence needed.
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Hate eats the hater from within, it is corrosive, as you describe. My friends who have endured this sort of bias and the life altering effects it has had on them and their children, and frankly the rest of their lives don't live and breathe their resentments, but partition them off. Mention the topic, and that door gets opened, but otherwise, you won't see it. It's how they survive.
Seeing that, and thankfully not going through it firsthand, I can see how someone who just. can't. move. on. would lose it. The effect on all the lives involved can be profound indeed, no violence needed.
I can only imagine.
Unfortunately the left has learned to feed off such hate. They've politicized it and turned it into the motive force of their party.
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I can only imagine.
Unfortunately the left has learned to feed off such hate. They've politicized it and turned it into the motive force of their party.
There is a salient difference.
The left hates because the last 1/8 of the glass isn't full, too.
No matter what they get, it isn't enough.
If their personal glass is full, they will hate for someone else, even if that someone else is happy to be making progress. It's why they want to destroy history, because with the destruction of history, every hard won milepost becomes moot, every gauge of how far they have progressed, every drop in the glass, becomes nothing. The very giants whose shoulders they stand on are erased from their saga and it becomes all about them, in this moment.
Frankly, I think they suffer from some mental disorders that I am not qualified to categorize, but recognize well enough to avoid people like that.
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There is a salient difference.
The left hates because the last 1/8 of the glass isn't full, too.
No matter what they get, it isn't enough.
If their personal glass is full, they will hate for someone else, even if that someone else is happy to be making progress. It's why they want to destroy history, because with the destruction of history, every hard won milepost becomes moot, every gauge of how far they have progressed, every drop in the glass, becomes nothing. The very giants whose shoulders they stand on are erased from their saga and it becomes all about them, in this moment.
Frankly, I think they suffer from some mental disorders that I am not qualified to categorize, but recognize well enough to avoid people like that.
:amen:
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In a video statement issued Monday, Salas called for more privacy for federal judges in the wake of the July 19 attack at her home.
She noted that serving as judge involves “making tough calls†that sometimes leave people angry and upset. But she said judges should not have to “live in fear for our lives†because personal information, such as home addresses, can be easily obtained by anyone seeking to do them or their families harm. ...
Hard to argue with that.
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Hard to argue with that.
Yes, it is.
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True about anger and hate.
But there are some family courts with definite bias against men.
And the womyn at Social Services are programmed with that crap.
@Smokin Joe
True,but that doesn't justify murder.
The people who need to be "attacked" are the political creatures with the power to change things,but not the stones.
AND.....,the way to attack them is to vote them out of office.
Yeah,I know it's not easy to do,but it's also not easy to live a peaceful life when anarchy reigns.
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Yes, I know Judge Salas is an Obama appointee, but no mother deserves to lose her only son and nearly lose her husband to senseless violence. I'm thinking these days, judges need more than protection of their personal information. They need 24/7 bodyguards for themselves and their families. Plenty of loose screws out there.
@Applewood
From EVERY "degree" of the political "circle".
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@Smokin Joe
True,but that doesn't justify murder.
The people who need to be "attacked" are the political creatures with the power to change things,but not the stones.
AND.....,the way to attack them is to vote them out of office.
Yeah,I know it's not easy to do,but it's also not easy to live a peaceful life when anarchy reigns.
I never said it did. --and chances are that hatred is misdirected, anyway.
The judge works with what testimony and evidence (if any) they have, and makes their best decision based on that. Courtroom conduct in an emotionally charged situation is everything. Not everyone is up to that task: women cry, men cuss--our nature as protector of the family unit and children works against us in the face of that threat. We, overwhelmingly want to DO something, when the best course of action is contrary to the very sort of Limbic Brain fight or flight action we're wired for.
The evidence is often provided by a spouse seeking advantage in a nasty divorce, and using social workers (or even encouraged by them to get more caseload).
If a Social Worker's lips are moving, there's a 99.99% chance they are lying. Many I have seen are childless feminists who carry their man hate in their leading hand, and when a couple stands together, they move to destroy both. I have seen that, too.
The assumption is that the male is evil, misogynistic, and a spouse/child abuser, right out of the gate. Even when there has been no wrong done. All is viewed through that lens, and distorted to fit the narrative. It's brutal for the poor SOB stuck in it, generally patently wrong, and cause for some extreme emotional stress. Some people crack, and the ones doing the pushing are expert at making that happen, even when it ordinarily would not have.
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If a Social Worker's lips are moving, there's a 99.99% chance they are lying. Many I have seen are childless feminists who carry their man hate in their leading hand, and when a couple stands together, they move to destroy both. I have seen that, too.
@Smokin Joe
Sad,but too true too often. You would think the judges would have noticed this and taken actions to nullify it in the most obvious cases.
I guess even the judges are scared of them.
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@Smokin Joe
Sad,but too true too often. You would think the judges would have noticed this and taken actions to nullify it in the most obvious cases.
I guess even the judges are scared of them.
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Would you blame them? They have it all--warrantless searches, presumption of guilt, and the ever present threat of accusations of Domestic violence, or at least a restraining order, which is a disqualifier for firearm ownership.