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Published January 07, 2019
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Roy Moore was reportedly targeted by Dems in second ‘false flag’ operation in 2017 Alabama race
By Alex Pappas | Fox News
Alabama Republican Roy Moore was reportedly targeted by another “false flag†operation organized by Democrats who supported Doug Jones during the state's Senate special election in 2017, according to a new report.
A New York Times story revealed Monday that Democrats created a Facebook page that gave the false impression that it was the work of Baptist teetotalers supporting Moore in the contest. That “Dry Alabama†Facebook page – which called for outlawing alcohol in the state – intended to alienate pro-business, moderate Republicans from Moore, the paper reported.
Democrats reportedly saw an opportunity to win that race after Moore was hit with allegations of past inappropriate sexual conduct with teenage girls. Jones went on to win the race.
It’s the second report in recent weeks of a stealth social media effort by pro-Jones activists.
In December, the New York Times also reported that Democratic operatives, backed by a liberal billionaire, created thousands of fake Russian accounts to give an impression the Russian government was supporting Moore. The secret project was carried out on Facebook and Twitter. After that revelation, Jones said he was "outraged" over the report and called for a federal investigation into the project.
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It's just a shame that so many people (enough to lose the election) were taken in by these smear operations from the Jones camp and elsewhere.
It is faint satisfaction, knowing that those of us who saw through the psyops and failed to convince others that these were political attacks independent of truth, were indeed correct.
The more is revealed, the more I hope that such accusations will be more critically examined in the future.
Despite the revelations of the lies told about Moore, there are those who yet persist in attacking the man's character using the same opposition lies which are being revealed. In the meantime, Jones is in, Moore is not, and we all lose.
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It's just a shame that so many people (enough to lose the election) were taken in by these smear operations from the Jones camp and elsewhere.
It is faint satisfaction, knowing that those of us who saw through the psyops and failed to convince others that these were political attacks independent of truth, were indeed correct.
The more is revealed, the more I hope that such accusations will be more critically examined in the future.
Despite the revelations of the lies told about Moore, there are those who yet persist in attacking the man's character using the same opposition lies which are being revealed. In the meantime, Jones is in, Moore is not, and we all lose.
From your keyboard to God's ear @Smokin Joe !
Perfectly stated! 888high58888
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Had Moore had depth of support at worst he would have survived this, at best it wouldn't have been tried. Losing the primary for Governor in 2006 and 2010 and his seat on the Alabama Supreme Court were the first clues he was vulnerable. The opposition knew this. I am not in any way justifying what they did with this understanding; I'm just not as surprised as others appear to be.
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It's just a shame that so many people (enough to lose the election) were taken in by these smear operations from the Jones camp and elsewhere.
It is faint satisfaction, knowing that those of us who saw through the psyops and failed to convince others that these were political attacks independent of truth, were indeed correct.
The more is revealed, the more I hope that such accusations will be more critically examined in the future.
Despite the revelations of the lies told about Moore, there are those who yet persist in attacking the man's character using the same opposition lies which are being revealed. In the meantime, Jones is in, Moore is not, and we all lose.
Yep. And I fear that we might have to get used to that scenario (people being taken in). Because some of them were willfully duped, apparently.
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Had Moore had depth of support at worst he would have survived this, at best it wouldn't have been tried. Losing the primary for Governor in 2006 and 2010 and his seat on the Alabama Supreme Court were the first clues he was vulnerable. The opposition knew this. I am not in any way justifying what they did with this understanding; I'm just not as surprised as others appear to be.
I'm not surprised @Right_in_Virginia I'm MAD! Damned mad in fact!
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I'm not surprised @Right_in_Virginia I'm MAD! Damned mad in fact!
So am I @Bigun We lost a seat in the Senate by nominating a weak candidate.
Hopefully, we've all learned something here.
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So am I @Bigun We lost a seat in the Senate by nominating a weak candidate.
Hopefully, we've all learned something here.
NO! Damn it! That is patently untrue @Right_in_Virginia and you know it! We lost a Senate seat because WE continually allow ourselves to fall far the well known tactics of the SWAMP! And many here were, are, complicit despite their protestations to the contrary!
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NO! Damn it! That is patently untrue @Right_in_Virginia and you know it! We lost a Senate seat because WE continually allow ourselves to fall far the well known tactics of the SWAMP! And many here were, are, complicit despite their protestations to the contrary!
I'm not going to debate this further @Bigun But he lost two attempts at the Governor's House, was thrown off the Supreme Court once and suspended another. Believe it or not these are signs that Alabamans may enjoy his antics, but don't want him representing them or governing them.
He was a weak candidate. Had he not been, Alabamans would have rallied around him. They just didn't like him or want him enough to get past the skeevy charges. The writing was on the wall for all to read before the charges even hit.
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NO! Damn it! That is patently untrue @Right_in_Virginia and you know it! We lost a Senate seat because WE continually allow ourselves to fall far the well known tactics of the SWAMP! And many here were, are, complicit despite their protestations to the contrary!
:amen: They tried doing the same thing to Kavanaugh.
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After that revelation, Jones said he was "outraged" over the report and called for a federal investigation into the project.
Only fair thing to do is to resign until this is sorted out, right Doug?
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BTW I find it odd that all this stuff is coming out against Jones when he is going into a reelection in 2020. They probably figure he's finished and want to get some other Rat in that Primary.
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I'm not going to debate this further @Bigun But he lost two attempts at the Governor's House, was thrown off the Supreme Court once and suspended another. Believe it or not these are signs that Alabamans may enjoy his antics, but don't want him representing them or governing them.
He was a weak candidate. Had he not been, Alabamans would have rallied around him. They just didn't like him or want him enough to get past the skeevy charges. The writing was on the wall for all to read before the charges even hit.
FIne, don't debate it further. You conspicuously left out why he was suspended, and why he was thrown off.
The first incident was over a Ten Comandments monument which form the basis for most western law. I guess some anti-religious folks got their panties in a twist over the idea that there might be a solid set of moral principles which have withstood the test of ages, and wanted it removed under the guise of 'freedom of religion'. He refused to comply.
The other incident arose when he instructed his judges to follow the Alabama Constitution, to wit: an Amendment voted on and passed by an overwhelming majority of the People of the State of Alabama which stated that Marriage shall only be between one man and one woman.
When a Federal Circuit Court judge sent a communication to the state government instructing them to not comply with their own Constitution, Moore took issue with the ruling and told his magistrates to follow Alabama law. The Circuit court had not ordered Moore and the Alabama courts to do anything, the missive was sent to another branch of the state government.
Twice the man went to the wall over principles, the former, the basis, irrespective of religious origins, of Western Law, the latter,in defense of traditional marriage. He lost his job standing up for what is right. IMHO, that's not a weak candidate, whether you agree with him or not.
Come to find that the homosexuals would do anything to keep Moore out over the gay marriage issue, and that Jones's son is a homosexual, and the pieces start to fall into place. The attack most effective was carried out, namely to make Moore in the public eye seem like someone who was a hypocrite, to erode his favor with church going folks who might have seen him as a defender of the faith, and to do so with unsubstantiated but well publicized rumor of sexual impropriety--forcing at the 11th hour the Moore campaign to attempt to prove a negative--the most difficult logical position--over allegations dating back 40 years.
The man was railroaded, and if you stand on principle at all (like Moore has) you'll see that the people of Alabama have been robbed through lies and subterfuge on the part of the Democrats.
And yes, there were too many here fully willing to jump on that train.
Like @Bigun , I'm mad as Hell over the whole thing, too--but even more so at the swamp critters in the GOP who couldn't pull support fast enough.Vipers all!
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BTW I find it odd that all this stuff is coming out against Jones when he is going into a reelection in 2020. They probably figure he's finished and want to get some other Rat in that Primary.
The Swamp things wanted Moore to drop out so they could run a favored candidate. They didn't support Moore, they pulled their support while the ink was still wet on the allegations.
Can't have someone who is willing to stand on principle well enough to lose his job over it roaming the halls on Capitol Hill. He might overhear things he couldn't abide.
No doubt they saw Moore as a loose cannon, and someone who might cost them their phony baloney jobs if he found out what was going on in D.C.
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FIne, don't debate it further. You conspicuously left out why he was suspended, and why he was thrown off.
The first incident was over a Ten Comandments monument which form the basis for most western law. I guess some anti-religious folks got their panties in a twist over the idea that there might be a solid set of moral principles which have withstood the test of ages, and wanted it removed under the guise of 'freedom of religion'. He refused to comply.
The other incident arose when he instructed his judges to follow the Alabama Constitution, to wit: an Amendment voted on and passed by an overwhelming majority of the People of the State of Alabama which stated that Marriage shall only be between one man and one woman.
When a Federal Circuit Court judge sent a communication to the state government instructing them to not comply with their own Constitution, Moore took issue with the ruling and told his magistrates to follow Alabama law. The Circuit court had not ordered Moore and the Alabama courts to do anything, the missive was sent to another branch of the state government.
Twice the man went to the wall over principles, the former, the basis, irrespective of religious origins, of Western Law, the latter,in defense of traditional marriage. He lost his job standing up for what is right. IMHO, that's not a weak candidate, whether you agree with him or not.
Come to find that the homosexuals would do anything to keep Moore out over the gay marriage issue, and that Jones's son is a homosexual, and the pieces start to fall into place. The attack most effective was carried out, namely to make Moore in the public eye seem like someone who was a hypocrite, to erode his favor with church going folks who might have seen him as a defender of the faith, and to do so with unsubstantiated but well publicized rumor of sexual impropriety--forcing at the 11th hour the Moore campaign to attempt to prove a negative--the most difficult logical position--over allegations dating back 40 years.
The man was railroaded, and if you stand on principle at all (like Moore has) you'll see that the people of Alabama have been robbed through lies and subterfuge on the part of the Democrats.
And yes, there were too many here fully willing to jump on that train.
Like @Bigun , I'm mad as Hell over the whole thing, too--but even more so at the swamp critters in the GOP who couldn't pull support fast enough.Vipers all!
Thank you, sir.
:thumbsup:
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FIne, don't debate it further. You conspicuously left out why he was suspended, and why he was thrown off.
The first incident was over a Ten Comandments monument which form the basis for most western law. I guess some anti-religious folks got their panties in a twist over the idea that there might be a solid set of moral principles which have withstood the test of ages, and wanted it removed under the guise of 'freedom of religion'. He refused to comply.
The other incident arose when he instructed his judges to follow the Alabama Constitution, to wit: an Amendment voted on and passed by an overwhelming majority of the People of the State of Alabama which stated that Marriage shall only be between one man and one woman.
When a Federal Circuit Court judge sent a communication to the state government instructing them to not comply with their own Constitution, Moore took issue with the ruling and told his magistrates to follow Alabama law. The Circuit court had not ordered Moore and the Alabama courts to do anything, the missive was sent to another branch of the state government.
Twice the man went to the wall over principles, the former, the basis, irrespective of religious origins, of Western Law, the latter,in defense of traditional marriage. He lost his job standing up for what is right. IMHO, that's not a weak candidate, whether you agree with him or not.
Come to find that the homosexuals would do anything to keep Moore out over the gay marriage issue, and that Jones's son is a homosexual, and the pieces start to fall into place. The attack most effective was carried out, namely to make Moore in the public eye seem like someone who was a hypocrite, to erode his favor with church going folks who might have seen him as a defender of the faith, and to do so with unsubstantiated but well publicized rumor of sexual impropriety--forcing at the 11th hour the Moore campaign to attempt to prove a negative--the most difficult logical position--over allegations dating back 40 years.
The man was railroaded, and if you stand on principle at all (like Moore has) you'll see that the people of Alabama have been robbed through lies and subterfuge on the part of the Democrats.
And yes, there were too many here fully willing to jump on that train.
Like @Bigun , I'm mad as Hell over the whole thing, too--but even more so at the swamp critters in the GOP who couldn't pull support fast enough.Vipers all!
Thank you @Smokin Joe for this FINE recitation of the facts! It never ceases to amaze me how smart some people can be in one area and then completely dumb in another but I've seen it too many time to believe it's not real. **nononono*
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It's just a shame that so many people (enough to lose the election) were taken in by these smear operations from the Jones camp and elsewhere.
It is faint satisfaction, knowing that those of us who saw through the psyops and failed to convince others that these were political attacks independent of truth, were indeed correct.
The more is revealed, the more I hope that such accusations will be more critically examined in the future.
Despite the revelations of the lies told about Moore, there are those who yet persist in attacking the man's character using the same opposition lies which are being revealed. In the meantime, Jones is in, Moore is not, and we all lose.
Yep, so many here were ready to pounce on Moore because of the smear campaign. It was pathetic. He would have been a good Senator.
But I hesitate to comment on this Moore thread because it might rouse the Sleeping Queen.
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I'm not going to debate this further @Bigun But he lost two attempts at the Governor's House, was thrown off the Supreme Court once and suspended another. Believe it or not these are signs that Alabamans may enjoy his antics, but don't want him representing them or governing them.
He was a weak candidate. Had he not been, Alabamans would have rallied around him. They just didn't like him or want him enough to get past the skeevy charges. The writing was on the wall for all to read before the charges even hit.
I disagree. Moore was not a perfect candidate but he was miles better than his opposition. He was just vulnerable enough for the left to paint him bad. We don't need to pile on now, RIV.
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So am I @Bigun We lost a seat in the Senate by nominating a weak candidate.
Hopefully, we've all learned something here.
It took everything the left and the RINOs like yourself could throw at the man to get him derailed. Weak my butt. When you resort to throwing around false accusations about something the South holds dear (protecting our children) it ain't no weak attack. Throw in fake ads with millions from all over the country to RINOs not wanting to tip the balance of power in congress. Then throw in now two $100,000 fake false flags FB campaigns.. Lets not forget the fake stories of him being banned at the mall to flyers suggesting Roy was racist. Then lets pile on some Russian bots supporting him. Then throw in late night comedians sending jerks to disrupt his campaigns. The list goes on and on and on what was done wrongfully to Roy. If he was so weak, why did everyone do this? Because he was beloved and they knew it.
The fact is the whole of the country piled on Roy including half of this forum. Why? Because whether they want to admit it or not, a God-Fearing straight conservative voter like Roy was feared.
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The Swamp things wanted Moore to drop out so they could run a favored candidate. They didn't support Moore, they pulled their support while the ink was still wet on the allegations.
Can't have someone who is willing to stand on principle well enough to lose his job over it roaming the halls on Capitol Hill. He might overhear things he couldn't abide.
No doubt they saw Moore as a loose cannon, and someone who might cost them their phony baloney jobs if he found out what was going on in D.C.
I'm not talking about Roy Moore. No one gives a shit about him because he is an unlikable douchebag. What is very odd is the MSM turning on Jones. Something is going on here. They are tanking their own guy.
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Moore wasn't the most spectacular candidate, but still in 'Bama he should have won handily. The smear campaigns are what took him down.
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I'm not talking about Roy Moore. No one gives a shit about him because he is an unlikable douchebag. What is very odd is the MSM turning on Jones. Something is going on here. They are tanking their own guy.
Then you are only seeing half the picture. They didn't want Jones, he was a punt, a placeholder, a zero.
It wasn't the people who voted for Jones who put him in, it was the folks who didn't show to vote for Moore who turned the election--the folks the whole smear campaign targeted.
It won't take much for Alabamans to have a serious case of 'buyers' remorse' over Jones. He's Toast in one term.
But the way the GOP jumped on the hate train tells me they wanted the seat, just not with Moore in it.
Even the MSM likes the swamp, muck and all, because they get to roll in it. The MSM liked Jones more, but not much.
By backing Jones (which effectively, hastily throwing Moore to the wolves did), the GOP Swamp critters will pick the seat up next time with someone of their choosing. Had Moore won, they'd likely have been stuck with him for a long time.
Swamp 1
Alabama 0
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Then you are only seeing half the picture. They didn't want Jones, he was a punt, a placeholder, a zero.
It wasn't the people who voted for Jones who put him in, it was the folks who didn't show to vote for Moore who turned the election--the folks the whole smear campaign targeted.
It won't take much for Alabamans to have a serious case of 'buyers' remorse' over Jones. He's Toast in one term.
But the way the GOP jumped on the hate train tells me they wanted the seat, just not with Moore in it.
Even the MSM likes the swamp, muck and all, because they get to roll in it. The MSM liked Jones more, but not much.
By backing Jones (which effectively, hastily throwing Moore to the wolves did), the GOP Swamp critters will pick the seat up next time with someone of their choosing. Had Moore won, they'd likely have been stuck with him for a long time.
Swamp 1
Alabama 0
Roy Moore is a swamp upon himself. He's a piece of human debris that was caught in so many lies trying to bail himself out from the kiddie raper charge that no real person would vote for him for a 2 1/2 year gig.
Brad Byrne is probably going to win that GOP Primary and the election in 2 years. He has a record of not being a loud mouth piece of shit so if the Rats throw mud at him it will be far easier to wipe off.
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Roy Moore is a swamp upon himself. He's a piece of human debris that was caught in so many lies trying to bail himself out from the kiddie raper charge that no real person would vote for him for a 2 1/2 year gig.
Brad Byrne is probably going to win that GOP Primary and the election in 2 years. He has a record of not being a loud mouth piece of shit so if the Rats throw mud at him it will be far easier to wipe off.
There were plenty of lies in that election, but not much you can attribute to Moore. An 11th hour ginned up blindside like that? Tough for a saint to defend against. Now that the assertions which got such great play then are being exposed, there are those who with the fervor of rabid Democrats still repeat the bullshit as if it was gospel--or maybe they have a hard time admitting they have been played for suckers, by, of all people, the Democrats.
Seems like Dem Plants aren't the only things in the swamp that thrive on bullshit.
Damnit Frank, we need a few "loudmouth pieces of shit" in DC who will stand up for something other than bleep the taxpayer.
Moore may have been a "loudmouth" but he does have principles. Maybe you only like unprincipled loudmouths.
In Congress, with rare exception, we just have loudmouth pieces of shit who are intent on screwing us all, and they've been doing a bang up job. I wouldn't mind having a few more 'loudmouths' in there who will stand up for Conservatism.
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It took everything the left and the RINOs like yourself could throw at the man to get him derailed. Weak my butt. When you resort to throwing around false accusations about something the South holds dear (protecting our children) it ain't no weak attack. Throw in fake ads with millions from all over the country to RINOs not wanting to tip the balance of power in congress. Then throw in now two $100,000 fake false flags FB campaigns.. Lets not forget the fake stories of him being banned at the mall to flyers suggesting Roy was racist. Then lets pile on some Russian bots supporting him. Then throw in late night comedians sending jerks to disrupt his campaigns. The list goes on and on and on what was done wrongfully to Roy. If he was so weak, why did everyone do this? Because he was beloved and they knew it.
The fact is the whole of the country piled on Roy including half of this forum. Why? Because whether they want to admit it or not, a God-Fearing straight conservative voter like Roy was feared.
:amen: By both sides of the aisle!
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Roy Moore is a swamp upon himself. He's a piece of human debris that was caught in so many lies trying to bail himself out from the kiddie raper charge that no real person would vote for him for a 2 1/2 year gig.
Brad Byrne is probably going to win that GOP Primary and the election in 2 years. He has a record of not being a loud mouth piece of shit so if the Rats throw mud at him it will be far easier to wipe off.
@Amb. Frank Cannon
Sorry to have to break this to you but you are just plain FOS on this subject!
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@Amb. Frank Cannon
Sorry to have to break this to you but you are just plain FOS on this subject!
YEP.
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@Amb. Frank Cannon
Sorry to have to break this to you but you are just plain FOS on this subject!
I agree @Bigun and you @Frank Cannon are being dick on this subject.
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I'm not going to debate this further @Bigun But he lost two attempts at the Governor's House, was thrown off the Supreme Court once and suspended another. Believe it or not these are signs that Alabamans may enjoy his antics, but don't want him representing them or governing them.
He was a weak candidate. Had he not been, Alabamans would have rallied around him. They just didn't like him or want him enough to get past the skeevy charges. The writing was on the wall for all to read before the charges even hit.
What the rats learned with Moore they tried on Kavanugh. They went 50/50 on lies and smears, I expect to see more of
the same from them. Shame on anyone that believed 40 year old allegations with zero credible evidence.
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Shame on anyone that believed 40 year old allegations with zero credible evidence.
That's right.
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LOL. Glad the Roy Moore fan club is back in the saddle to try and salvage a reputation he couldn't even salvage in that disastrous Hannity interview.
BTW can any of you fine gentlemen tell me how Roy's phony baloney counter-suit is panning out? We're heading onto a year now when this was all started with nothing happening.
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I agree @Bigun and you @Frank Cannon are being dick on this subject.
I may be a dick on the subject, but at least I'm using it on the over 18 crowd....unlike Roy.
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What the rats learned with Moore they tried on Kavanugh. They went 50/50 on lies and smears, I expect to see more of
the same from them. Shame on anyone that believed 40 year old allegations with zero credible evidence.
Yeah, but it worked on Roy because he is a shitbag loudmouth. It didn't work on Kav because he was credible. As a matter of fact it totally backfired on Kav because he was credible. Compare the Hannity interview with Roy's "denials" with Kavs full throated straight up total denials.
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LOL. Glad the Roy Moore fan club is back in the saddle to try and salvage a reputation he couldn't even salvage in that disastrous Hannity interview.
I don't need to defend Moore. Every allegation has not only been refuted, but proven to be damnable lies.
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I didn't follow the details in that recent Alabama Senate race, but I do know that Moore has always been a colorful character.
Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyQwqOOJx4U#)
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I don't need to defend Moore. Every allegation has not only been refuted, but proven to be damnable lies.
Then why has his court case been going nowhere to the point of being the next episode of Judge Judy? He is an expert among all experts in the judicial matters after all and AL isn't exactly the home of bleeding heart juris prudence.
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I may be a dick on the subject, but at least I'm using it on the over 18 crowd....unlike Roy.
There's something about a Roy Moore thread that brings out the total idiot in some people.
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Then why has his court case been going nowhere to the point of being the next episode of Judge Judy? He is an expert among all experts in the judicial matters after all and AL isn't exactly the home of bleeding heart juris prudence.
I don't know the status of his case, nor the resources stacked against him therein.
I do know that every single witness that matters has been found a liar, and point by point, the allegations against him proven false. And the superstructure behind those allegations has now been exposed.
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I don't know the status of his case, nor the resources stacked against him therein.
I do know that every single witness that matters has been found a liar, and point by point, the allegations against him proven false. And the superstructure behind those allegations has now been exposed.
LOL. You say that yet you have no effing clue about the saga of the Roy Moore/Leigh Corfman et al lawsuit/counter lawsuit/counter lawsuit. It's a train wreck of total nonsense. This thing started in January with Corfman suing, not Roy. If Roy had a case this thing would have been in front of a jury and done already........but Roy keeps wanting to change venues, charges in the lawsuit, people in the lawsuit to keep it from getting to court. He's a full blown lying fraud and a creep.
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Ran into another interesting tidbit (from a liberal blogger at that)....
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How could the Jill Stein and Doug Jones stories merge? Jill Simpson (retired attorney, opposition researcher, and whistle blower) provides insight in a recent post at Facebook. Writes Simpson:
Some of the Stein folks showed up in Alabama to help Doug Jones with election machinery, and they had told us it would be better if republican Trump won in Wisconsin. We knew then Russian bots were on the way to probably help Jones, and we reported this to old press friends to watch closely. We have one family in America that has been funding these folks, and we and the feds know who it is, and their ties to Mother Russia involve money being made back to the early 1990s. That said, this bunch funded Stein to beat Hillary and to beat Moore. This is not about political parties, this is about one of America's richest families being in bed with Russians and certain politicians on both sides. It is huge. Stein was owned by this bunch, and it became apparent to us when we were in Wisconsin. The greens would be well advised to cut Stein and her Russian butt-kissing ass loose from the party.
Source: https://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2018/12/stories-of-election-meddling-involving.html
Good grief... Now even the Greenies are part of taking Roy Moore down.
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Ran into another interesting tidbit (from a liberal blogger at that)....
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How could the Jill Stein and Doug Jones stories merge? Jill Simpson (retired attorney, opposition researcher, and whistle blower) provides insight in a recent post at Facebook. Writes Simpson:
Some of the Stein folks showed up in Alabama to help Doug Jones with election machinery, and they had told us it would be better if republican Trump won in Wisconsin. We knew then Russian bots were on the way to probably help Jones, and we reported this to old press friends to watch closely. We have one family in America that has been funding these folks, and we and the feds know who it is, and their ties to Mother Russia involve money being made back to the early 1990s. That said, this bunch funded Stein to beat Hillary and to beat Moore. This is not about political parties, this is about one of America's richest families being in bed with Russians and certain politicians on both sides. It is huge. Stein was owned by this bunch, and it became apparent to us when we were in Wisconsin. The greens would be well advised to cut Stein and her Russian butt-kissing ass loose from the party.
Source: https://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2018/12/stories-of-election-meddling-involving.html
Good grief... Now even the Greenies are part of taking Roy Moore down.
It was a Swamp thing. All the parties running scams had to stop the guy who would pull the curtain back, given the chance.
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If Roy had a case this thing would have been in front of a jury and done already........but Roy keeps wanting to change venues, charges in the lawsuit, people in the lawsuit to keep it from getting to court. He's a full blown lying fraud and a creep.
Proverbs 25:8 is what Roy is doing... there is a reason he left unnamed plaintiffs to be added later in his lawsuit, so the act of discovery can take place as evidence of these latest discoveries come forth. You don't rush something like this for a dang good reason... There is great wisdom (read the Bible verse) in taking time to put the pieces together, and in this case, there is a whole lot of pieces to puzzle from a lot of different factions. Yet there is still lots of pieces that need to be taped together... Roy is doing just fine at the speed he and his lawyers are progressing.
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Here is the link to the first version of Moore's lawsuit, a good read. From what I understand this lawsuit has been revised and I don't have access to it (behind a paywall)...
https://www.scribd.com/document/377884668/Complaint-Judge-Moore#from_embed (https://www.scribd.com/document/377884668/Complaint-Judge-Moore#from_embed)
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I'm starting to get the impression that the Trump campaign was behind Doug Jones getting elected, judging solely by who's denigrating him now.
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I'm starting to get the impression that the Trump campaign was behind Doug Jones getting elected, judging solely by who's denigrating him now.
Apparently connecting dots is not in your wheelhouse. The mantra at the time from the President and his supporters was do not lose the damn seat.
But you did it anyway. :shrug:
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There's something about a Roy Moore thread that brings out the total idiot in some people.
Yep! NO doubt about it!
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Apparently connecting dots is not in your wheelhouse. The mantra at the time from the President and his supporters was do not lose the damn seat.
But you did it anyway. :shrug:
With a lot of help from the GOPe who pulled support at the drop of an allegation.
Their very public willingness to back someone else if Moore would just step down pretty much polished the optic that there may be truth in the allegations, and doomed Moore's campaign. When they should have been backing Moore and looking for the truth, they bailed on him. The GOP lost that seat, because they wanted someone else in it besides Moore, and they don't have anyone but themselves to blame.
But then, with the last couple years of performance, no one accused the Country Club 'pubbies of being on Trump's team.
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Apparently connecting dots is not in your wheelhouse. The mantra at the time from the President and his supporters was do not lose the damn seat.
But you did it anyway. :shrug:
I thought it was "you should've chosen Luther Strange in the primary, now you're going to lose. But I'll halfheartedly try to keep the seat in the GOP column anyway."
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LOL. You say that yet you have no effing clue about the saga of the Roy Moore/Leigh Corfman et al lawsuit/counter lawsuit/counter lawsuit. It's a train wreck of total nonsense. This thing started in January with Corfman suing, not Roy. If Roy had a case this thing would have been in front of a jury and done already........but Roy keeps wanting to change venues, charges in the lawsuit, people in the lawsuit to keep it from getting to court. He's a full blown lying fraud and a creep.
NAH. I have been directly involved in a law suit much less complicated than this, and in that one discovery alone went longer than a year. The whole process was close to three. Speed of execution is no bellwether.
But speaking of a full blown lying creep, Tumpy the clown and Epstein Island. Hypocrisy so thick, you can cut it with a knife. *****rollingeyes*****
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Here are the Obama-era officials allegedly behind the Alabama false flag campaign to destroy Roy Moore
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/01/08/here-are-the-obama-era-officials-allegedly-behind-the-alabama-false-flag-campaign-to-destroy-roy-moore-711257 (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/01/08/here-are-the-obama-era-officials-allegedly-behind-the-alabama-false-flag-campaign-to-destroy-roy-moore-711257)
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NAH. I have been directly involved in a law suit much less complicated than this, and in that one discovery alone went longer than a year. The whole process was close to three. Speed of execution is no bellwether.
But speaking of a full blown lying creep, Tumpy the clown and Epstein Island. Hypocrisy so thick, you can cut it with a knife. *****rollingeyes*****
Yeah. I have called your bullshit on Moore and his phony lawsuit and all you have is some nonsense about Epstien.
This right here is why NT posts at this place should come with a laugh track.
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With a lot of help from the GOPe who pulled support at the drop of an allegation.
Their very public willingness to back someone else if Moore would just step down pretty much polished the optic that there may be truth in the allegations, and doomed Moore's campaign. When they should have been backing Moore and looking for the truth, they bailed on him. The GOP lost that seat, because they wanted someone else in it besides Moore, and they don't have anyone but themselves to blame.
But then, with the last couple years of performance, no one accused the Country Club 'pubbies of being on Trump's team.
I understand you are angry and need to vent. But it's difficult to hear you slash and burn everyone around the candidate, but not the candidate himself.
Do you think the outcome of the election could have been different had Moore looked straight into the camera and given a full-throated, flat out denial of the charges during Hannity's interview? Even Hannity told him to try again.
Would the outcome have been different had Moore campaigned night and day to groups large and small and actually fought for the seat? Do you think he should have left the horse in the stable for his grand campaign finale?
And forget McConnell---how different would the outcome have been if Senators Mike Lee and/or Ted Cruz had pounded the streets of Alabama on Moore's behalf?
This was a deeply flawed candidate from the start; low hanging fruit for the opposition.
Let's not repeat this mistake in 2020.
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Related https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/alabama-senate-roy-jones-russia.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/alabama-senate-roy-jones-russia.html)
The NYT, now claiming the Media "fell for it".
https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/19/democrats-russian-bots-false-flag/ (https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/19/democrats-russian-bots-false-flag/)
I know there is a presumption of innocence (which is more than Moore got), but I'd wager the media were not duped but complicit.
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Here are the Obama-era officials allegedly behind the Alabama false flag campaign to destroy Roy Moore
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/01/08/here-are-the-obama-era-officials-allegedly-behind-the-alabama-false-flag-campaign-to-destroy-roy-moore-711257 (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/01/08/here-are-the-obama-era-officials-allegedly-behind-the-alabama-false-flag-campaign-to-destroy-roy-moore-711257)
Very interesting article, thanks for linking Myst !!
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How 'Project Birmingham' Spread Misinformation In The 2017 Alabama Senate Election
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/09/683731977/how-project-birmingham-spread-misinformation-in-the-2017-alabama-senate-election?fbclid=IwAR3bqUeRTV7IHHIvWG5kMl1Uujg4jUgbPbA4ts-09YGpctYN45LEeAKJg1c (https://www.npr.org/2019/01/09/683731977/how-project-birmingham-spread-misinformation-in-the-2017-alabama-senate-election?fbclid=IwAR3bqUeRTV7IHHIvWG5kMl1Uujg4jUgbPbA4ts-09YGpctYN45LEeAKJg1c)
CORNISH: Is there any way to know what kind of effect it had on the election? I mean, that race in particular, given the allegations about Roy Moore, had a lot going on.
TIMBERG: Indeed. And as political scientists have pointed out to us, Roy Moore was an incredibly well-known character.......... It's clear that whoever, you know, was pushing Project Birmingham was attempting to push on those issues. They talk about - in the document - trying to provoke disgust among evangelical Christians, for example, over those allegations of sexual misconduct.
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One more good report on how Roy was cheated on... the plot just gets thicker and thicker....
The Democracy Integrity Project, which works with Fusion GPS and dossier author Christopher Steele, partnered before the 2018 midterms with New Knowledge, an Austin-based firm that has been tied to an operation that created fake Russian bots in Alabama’s December 2017 special election.
New Knowledge recently produced a report for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and TDIP’s founder was in contact with two Democrats from the committee.
A nonprofit group linked to Fusion GPS and partially funded by George Soros
https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/10/fusion-gps-russia-false-flag/?fbclid=IwAR0fLJJgl_zjZpsKlfFNGl73b1tqsKRjm-noIJPc0X_QMUEQlrQY_iO1yuY
TDIP is also linked to the Senate Intelligence panel. Its founder, Daniel J. Jones, was previously a staffer for Democrats on SSCI. He was also in contact in early 2017 with Virginia Sen. Mark Warner, the Democratic vice chairman of SSCI. As part of TDIP’s own Trump-Russia investigation, the group hired Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele, the author of the anti-Trump dossier.
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It gets even deeper if you continue reading..... good link worth a view.. cause it just gets more and more swampy....
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The whole thing make me SICK to this day! Especially the fact that so many supposedly well informed people swallowed that stuff hook line and sinker!
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The whole thing make me SICK to this day! Especially the fact that so many supposedly well informed people swallowed that stuff hook line and sinker!
The only thing missing is the e-trail/paper trail right back to Corfman.
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The whole thing make me SICK to this day! Especially the fact that so many supposedly well informed people swallowed that stuff hook line and sinker!
I was shocked to see how rapidly and how vehemently others insisted that the allegations were true, all but calling for the damnation of Moore. People I had previously respected lost that respect.
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I was shocked to see how rapidly and how vehemently others insisted that the allegations were true, all but calling for the damnation of Moore. People I had previously respected lost that respect.
Ditto!
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The whole thing make me SICK to this day! Especially the fact that so many supposedly well informed people swallowed that stuff hook line and sinker!
How many more times will they fall for it before they will recognize the pattern? Seems they almost WANT to be suckered.
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How many more times will they fall for it before they will recognize the pattern? Seems they almost WANT to be suckered.
If people didn't want to be suckered, they'd rarely re-elect anyone.
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How many more times will they fall for it before they will recognize the pattern? Seems they almost WANT to be suckered.
Yes! Indeed it does! Saying you are something and actually being that are obviously two very different things.
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Yes! Indeed it does! Saying you are something and actually being that are obviously two very different things.
What did you expect in a culture that permits people to 'identify' as what they obviously are not.
Mother always said, "Caveat emptor, son. Appearances can be deceiving. "