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Mike Lee, Mitt Romney vote to block Trump's national emergency declaration
KSL.com, Mar 15, 2019, Dennis Romboy
SALT LAKE CITY — Utah's two senators were among a dozen Republicans voting to buck President Donald Trump's declaration of a national emergency for funds to build a wall on the southern border.
Both Sen. Mike Lee and Sen. Mitt Romney voted for the Democratic measure to disapprove Trump's order, which passed 59-41. The House previously passed the resolution.
Lee in a Senate floor speech blamed Congress for "voluntarily" relinquishing its legislative power to the White House.
"This is not about the president. This is not about my disagreement with or disapproval of the president or his approach to border security or his approach to build a barrier along our southern border. I think all those things need to happen,†Lee, R-Utah, said.
"But this law, Mr. President, is wrong. It’s not President Trump's fault. It Congress'."
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After weeks of holding his decision close to the vest, Romney, R-Utah, said early Thursday's that he would vote for the resolution to disapprove the emergency declaration.
"This is a vote for the Constitution and for the balance of powers that is at its core. For the executive branch to override a law passed by Congress would make it the ultimate power rather than a balancing power," Romney said in a statement.
More: https://www.ksl.com/article/46510989/mike-lee-mitt-romney-vote-to-block-trumps-national-emergency-declaration (https://www.ksl.com/article/46510989/mike-lee-mitt-romney-vote-to-block-trumps-national-emergency-declaration)
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This is a vote for the Constitution and for the balance of powers that is at its core. For the executive branch to override a law passed by Congress would make it the ultimate power rather than a balancing power," Romney said in a statement.
What the hell does this even mean?
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"This is not about the president. This is not about my disagreement with or disapproval of the president or his approach to border security or his approach to build a barrier along our southern border. I think all those things need to happen,†Lee, R-Utah, said.
"But this law, Mr. President, is wrong. It’s not President Trump's fault. It Congress'."
In a tweet earlier Thursday, the president said, "If, at a later date, Congress wants to update the law, I will support those efforts, but today’s issue is BORDER SECURITY and Crime!!! Don’t vote with Pelosi!"
Pelosi had already said she will not bring a change to the law to the floor. Lee knew this before voting with Pelosi and her demonrats.
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Utah, figgers.
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"But this law, Mr. President, is wrong. It’s not President Trump's fault. It Congress'."
That's exactly right Senator Lee! If the law is flawed it is YOUR job to fix it or repeal it entirely but it definitely IS NOT your job to second guess the president's application of it as it exists today!
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What the hell does this even mean?
It means when the rats win the White House there's gonna be a lot National Emergencies and little chance of stopping them.
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It means when the rats win the White House there's gonna be a lot National Emergencies and little chance of stopping them.
Well they're going to do that, regardless of what Trump does.
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Mike Lee and Mitt Romney are BOTH RINO'S...really demon-rats. I posted a while back about MIKE Lee. I loathe both...for good reasons. BOTH BAD MOUTH THE PRESIDENT...which goes against their LDS religion. ARTICLE 12.
Both are liars and schmucks. They need to join the demon-rat party. They fit right in. BOTH ARE FOR NWO..and support bringing in, Islamists into America. . They both support bringing in ILLEGALS..as they have Mormon compound in Mexico. Mitt's dad George, was born in Mexico. Some inter marriages. They BOTH want people to live by LDS standards. It was Enquirer, who said that about Ted Cruz's & apparently true. PICTURES. Mike Lee..best friends with TED CRUZ. Both have ISSUES... BOTH ARE GLOBALISTS.
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Sen. Mike Lee goes on epic rant about Donald Trump
By LOUIS NELSON 06/30/2016 06:58 AM EDT
Pressed during a telephone interview Wednesday night to explain why he has not yet endorsed Donald Trump’s presidential bid, Sen. Mike Lee unloaded.
“Hey look, Steve, I get it. You want me to endorse Trump,†Lee (R-Utah) told NewsMaxTV host Steve Malzberg. “We can get into that if you want. We can get into the fact that he accused my best friend’s father of conspiring to kill JFK. We can go through the fact that he’s made statements that some have identified correctly as religiously intolerant.
We can get into the fact that he’s wildly unpopular in my state, in part because my state consists of people who are members of a religious minority church.
A people who were ordered exterminated by the governor of Missouri in 1838. And, statements like that make them nervous.â€
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That's exactly right Senator Lee! If the law is flawed it is YOUR job to fix it or repeal it entirely but it definitely IS NOT your job to second guess the president's application of it as it exists today!
Exactly.
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What the hell does this even mean?
A bit of double-speak.
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Pelosi had already said she will not bring a change to the law to the floor. Lee knew this before voting with Pelosi and her demonrats.
President Trump is absolutely 100% correct; today's issue IS Border Security! If he/we don't get that under control, we won't have a country left. I am not surprised at Romney, but I am disappointed with Lee.
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Well they're going to do that, regardless of what Trump does.
Yes. :thumbsup:
It is the senators who are over reaching...NOT President TRUMP. TRAITORS TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND LAW, AND THE CONSTITUTION, that they claim to be worried about.
They, Mike, wants to talk about upholding the CONSTITUTION? That is what president TRUMP is using! For Americans safety, but since this has to do with the border...again...LDS people have a compound there. They went there to escape persecution. The still have property, and some have inter married with Mexicans. COUSINS IN MEXICO. The both support ILLEGALS AND HISPANICS. NWO. GLOBALISTS.
President TRUMP supports LEGAL'S AND OUR SOVEREIGNTY..NOT GLOBALISM.
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President Trump is absolutely 100% correct; today's issue IS Border Security! If he/we don't get that under control, we won't have a country left. I am not surprised at Romney, but I am disappointed with Lee.
So the ends justify the means? Since when is that a Conservative idea?
Hell no!
I will stand with Lee and Paul
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So the ends justify the means? Since when is that a Conservative idea?
Hell no!
I will stand with Lee and Paul
Don't you mean Lee, Romney and Rand Paul ? ALL RINO'S. ZERO TO DO WITH CONSERVATISM. How do you equate BORDER SECURITY..SAFETY FOR PEOPLE AND OUT SOVEREIGNTY WITH BEING..CONSERVATIVE?
It is about SAFETY...FIRST. SURVIVAL. No wonder I had you on ignore. Food for thought below. Pedophilia in LDS church?
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Don't you mean Lee, Romney and Rand Paul ? ALL RINO'S.
That's all I need to know to know what you are saying is full of crap @LegalAmerican
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PEDOPHILIA IS EVERYWHERE. In Churches, homes, everywhere. I personally, think Kevin in the video is a bit goofy. He is saying half truths and outright lies. Quotes OLD TESTAMENT. He was a pastor, was defrocked and his kids were taken away. Since a TEMPLE is being built in Rome, I would say they have to meet with POPE in Rome. He says last prophet in LDS church was poisoned. Munson was in his late 90's when he passed. I do not believe he was murdered. Nor do LDS people worship Moroni. He does not even say it correctly. THAT IS ALL I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
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Don't you mean Lee, Romney and Rand Paul ? ALL RINO'S.
Thanks for so eloquently showing your undestanding of politics </S>. Mike Lee RINO? Ha ha ha... Go back to the Freeper Mother Ship bozo.
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PEDOPHILIA IS EVERYWHERE. In Churches, homes, everywhere. I personally, think Kevin in the video is a bit goofy. He is saying half truths and outright lies. Quotes OLD TESTAMENT. He was a pastor, was defrocked and his kids were taken away. Since a TEMPLE is being built in Rome, I would say they have to meet with POPE in Rome. He says last prophet in LDS church was poisoned. Munson was in his late 90's when he passed. I do not believe he was murdered. Nor do LDS people worship Moroni. He does not even say it correctly. THAT IS ALL I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
I don't give a single rusty crap about Mormons.
Mike Lee has always been a reliable Conservative and has the record to prove it. And Rand Paul, while more of a libertarian in thought, ain't damn far behind.
Cruz is the one going wobbly.
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According to several, Lee and Romney, among many, are
Rinos and Bad Guys and..........and ..........and..........
But come the next election cycle it'll be, "Hey we gotta
rally round and support our guys cuz................"
The republicrats and their fan club have been dead for
many generations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't give a single rusty crap about Mormons.
Mike Lee has always been a reliable Conservative and has the record to prove it. And Rand Paul, while more of a libertarian in thought, ain't damn far behind.
Cruz is the one going wobbly.
Disappointed in Cruz. I think after his close call with Beatoff, he has his sites more on a SCOTUS seat. i.e don't stir the orange koolaid.
I live in Texas, and see the effects of the invasion 1st hand. OTOH, making Emergency declarations this expansive at will, just embboldens the dims to do the same with climate change.
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So the ends justify the means? Since when is that a Conservative idea?
Hell no!
I will stand with Lee and Paul
I understand your point. The Constitution itself doesn't grant the power, but the National Emergencies Act gives him the authority and other presidents have used this same power countless times. Bammy used the same authority under this act did he not, and I don't recall either Lee or Paul creating a resolution to oppose him? They both are concerned for future abuse by the radical left as they have flat out threatened to do so. I understand that completely, so perhaps changing the law is needed again as this isn't the first time it's been challenged. However, that law now stands.
I believe both Paul and Lee are terrified at the thought of the lunacy of the fringed left and they should be. They have the authority to make changes to laws. They need to get busy. The President doesn't have that authority and he is using the authority that he now has.
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Disappointed in Cruz. I think after his close call with Beatoff, he has his sites more on a SCOTUS seat. i.e don't stir the orange koolaid.
Yeah, me too... He's barely holding a B as a Conservative these days. He's going wobbly, and I don't care why.
I live in Texas, and see the effects of the invasion 1st hand. OTOH, making Emergency declarations this expansive at will, just embboldens the dims to do the same with climate change.
I understand the dilemma y'all have going on... As much as I can from way up here.
That still don't mean it's alright to upend the House's power of the purse.
This is damn well wrong. And if it was a Democrat doing it, everybody here would be screaming about it.
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I understand your point. The Constitution itself doesn't grant the power, but the National Emergencies Act gives him the authority and other presidents have used this same power countless times. Bammy used the same authority under this act did he not, and I don't recall either Lee or Paul creating a resolution to oppose him? They both are concerned for future abuse by the radical left as they have flat out threatened to do so. I understand that completely, so perhaps changing the law is needed again as this isn't the first time it's been challenged. However, that law now stands.
Well perhaps you can show me another instance of the Emergency power being used to directly thwart the will of Congress and end run the House's power of the purse...
I believe both Paul and Lee are terrified at the thought of the lunacy of the fringed left and they should be. They have the authority to make changes to laws. They need to get busy. The President doesn't have that authority and he is using the authority that he now has.
I disagree. I don't think they are scared of anything. I think they are standing right where they should be - On principle.
And I also disagree that this is within presidential power. I think he's buying himself an impeachment.
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I don't give a single rusty crap about Mormons.
That came out wrong. I hope any Mormons on the board know what I mean.
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Well perhaps you can show me another instance of the Emergency power being used to directly thwart the will of Congress and end run the House's power of the purse...
I disagree. I don't think they are scared of anything. I think they are standing right where they should be - On principle.
And I also disagree that this is within presidential power. I think he's buying himself an impeachment.
He has the authority to declare a national emergency. The question has always been does he have the power to reapportion funds already granted by Congress? Congress obviously in the past has always awarded $$$ to other presidents when they have declared national emergencies, have they not? President Trump's biggest mistake was not declaring a national emergency first and then asking for the money. He's doing it the other way around. He asked for money and he didn't get it, so then he declared an emergency.
I fully understand that only Congress has the power of the purse, I get that, but I also get that the President has the authority to declare a national emergency. Paul and Lee are both voting against that authority.
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Paul and Lee are both voting against that authority.
I don't think they are against that authority - I think they are against how that authority is being used.
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I don't think they are against that authority - I think they are against how that authority is being used.
Clearly, the law needs to be changed (again) to avoid abuse of that authority.
In September, 2001, George W. Bush, Declared a National Emergency by Reason of Certain Terrorist Attacks. That declaration is still in effect. I would say that Trumps declaration of a national emergency is very similar.
Again, the big difference I believe is Trump asking for $$ and then when denied, declaring a national emergency.
He should have never shut the government down. He shouldn't have brought the media in and challenged Nancy and Chuckie.
He should have announced that caravans were arriving, things were getting out of control at the border and declared a national emergency, sent in the military and asked for $. He could have had the military build the wall. He went about things backasswards.
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Clearly, the law needs to be changed (again) to avoid abuse of that authority.
In September, 2001, George W. Bush, Declared a National Emergency by Reason of Certain Terrorist Attacks. That declaration is still in effect. I would say that Trumps declaration of a national emergency is very similar.
Again, the big difference I believe is Trump asking for $$ and then when denied, declaring a national emergency.
He should have never shut the government down. He shouldn't have brought the media in and challenged Nancy and Chuckie.
He should have announced that caravans were arriving, things were getting out of control at the border and declared a national emergency, sent in the military and asked for $. He could have had the military build the wall. He went about things backasswards.
Shoulda Coulda Woulda... Always said I would have been more comfortable with him declaring war on Mexico.
Doesn't matter. We are where we are, and Pelosi has him by the short hairs. That does not mean he gets to run her over.
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Well they're going to do that, regardless of what Trump does.
@dfwgator
I doubt that. I believe it takes much more than stupidity and bravado to screw up the country as badly as Trump has done especially with all the advantages in timing he has been given. I think it takes Trumpian mental retardation and an alpha-privileged mindset to ignore the experts you've assembled and do the opposite.
You maybe right that eventually a rat President under a GOP Congress would negate a legislative law, fully debate and signed by the rat President, through a declaration of National Emergency. I'm willing to declare I think the SCOTUS understands the English language and will strike it down. Even if the SCOTUS refuses to act, eventually the egos of the Congress will demand their power back. JMO
Trump doesn't want this anyways. He just wants 34% impeachment cover.
Ask yourself, would 12 GOP senators vote against a National Border Emergency 2 years ago? I don't think so.
Thanx for the response.
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Clearly, the law needs to be changed (again) to avoid abuse of that authority.
In September, 2001, George W. Bush, Declared a National Emergency by Reason of Certain Terrorist Attacks. That declaration is still in effect. I would say that Trumps declaration of a national emergency is very similar.
Again, the big difference I believe is Trump asking for $$ and then when denied, declaring a national emergency.
He should have never shut the government down. He shouldn't have brought the media in and challenged Nancy and Chuckie.
He should have announced that caravans were arriving, things were getting out of control at the border and declared a national emergency, sent in the military and asked for $. He could have had the military build the wall. He went about things backasswards.
All good points.
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Shoulda Coulda Woulda... Always said I would have been more comfortable with him declaring war on Mexico.
Doesn't matter. We are where we are, and Pelosi has him by the short hairs. That does not mean he gets to run her over.
Pelosi doesn't have the President by the short hairs; 12 Republican/conservative senators do.
But the President will do what the constitution allows him to do to secure our southern border. It's rather telling you consider this running over Pelosi.
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So the ends justify the means? Since when is that a Conservative idea?
Hell no!
I will stand with Lee and Paul
And I will strongly disagree with all three of you! If the damned law is flawed it's the Congress job to fix or repeal it not to whine about the president using law as it currently exists!
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And I will strongly disagree with all three of you! If the damned law is flawed it's the Congress job to fix or repeal it not to whine about the president using law as it currently exists!
As this law currently exists, the Congress has the power of nullification. So yeah, they can do more than whine.
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Pelosi doesn't have the President by the short hairs; 12 Republican/conservative senators do.
But the President will do what the constitution allows him to do to secure our southern border. It's rather telling you consider this running over Pelosi.
Sure she does. She's the speaker. For all intents and purposes, she has the checkbook.
And how is this NOT an attempt to run over the House's power of the purse? That is EXACTLY what it is.
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So the ends justify the means? Since when is that a Conservative idea?
Hell no!
I will stand with Lee and Paul
You're right, @roamer_1 The Senator I most admire, Pat Toomey, voted to override the emergency. Not because border security is unimportant, but because it is Congress that is Constitutionally responsible for appropriating funds.
Now what Congress should have done is repeal or replace the National Emergencies Act. Trump has a colorable argument that his emergency declaration is encompassed by Congress' own delegation of authority to the executive. This is all being set up for, ultimately, the SCOTUS to decide. Congress passes a law, the President acts in accordance with it, Congress votes to indicate its disapproval as the law provides, and the President vetoes it. We're set up for the litigation to follow.
McConnell absolutely did the right thing in forcing a vote. Every Senator is now on record, and the ball is advanced for ultimate resolution by the SCOTUS.
Stay tuned . . .
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You're right, @roamer_1 The Senator I most admire, Pat Toomey, voted to override the emergency. Not because border security is unimportant, but because it is Congress that is Constitutionally responsible for appropriating funds.
Now what Congress should have done is repeal or replace the National Emergencies Act. Trump has a colorable argument that his emergency declaration is encompassed by Congress' own delegation of authority to the executive. This is all being set up for, ultimately, the SCOTUS to decide. Congress passes a law, the President acts in accordance with it, Congress votes to indicate its disapproval as the law provides, and the President vetoes it. We're set up for the litigation to follow.
McConnell absolutely did the right thing in forcing a vote. Every Senator is now on record, and the ball is advanced for ultimate resolution by the SCOTUS.
Stay tuned . . .
Yeah, mark the day @Jazzhead you and me on the same page... :beer: happy77
The easy fix here is a 2/3 override, and fix the law after the fact... But yeah, I think it's gonna be knock-down drag-out bitter.
And I still think he is buying himself an impeachment.
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Those 12 are all TRAITORS to Americans. I want safety and secured border, promised to us in 1986...IF President Reagan gave amnesty. THE DEMON-RATS..RENEGED and lied as they always...do.
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Democrats always voted in lockstep with what President Obama told them to do. No debates on the "growing power of the presidency", no concerns over the Commander in Chief being too influential. These Republican senators did what Obama told them to do.
Even when it came to bribing Iran billions of dollars! These same Republicans voting against our president were just tripping over themselves to vote for Obama's expanded authority at every turn.
I hope Mitt Romney's constituents contact him about the evil of his actions. Why vote for a fake Democrat when you can vote for a real one? I have no idea why these Republicans think they should be in office. Obama never had to put up with "Deep Thinker" Democrats voting against him. Why do you refuse to give Trump the same benefit of a doubt?
Like the Never Trumpers at National Review magazine, these Republican senators wish Hillary were president and selecting federal judges.
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Mike Lee and Mitt Romney are BOTH RINO'S...really demon-rats. I posted a while back about MIKE Lee. I loathe both...for good reasons. BOTH BAD MOUTH THE PRESIDENT...which goes against their LDS religion. ARTICLE 12.
Both are liars and schmucks. They need to join the demon-rat party. They fit right in. BOTH ARE FOR NWO..and support bringing in, Islamists into America. . They both support bringing in ILLEGALS..as they have Mormon compound in Mexico. Mitt's dad George, was born in Mexico. Some inter marriages. They BOTH want people to live by LDS standards. It was Enquirer, who said that about Ted Cruz's & apparently true. PICTURES. Mike Lee..best friends with TED CRUZ. Both have ISSUES... BOTH ARE GLOBALISTS.
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Sen. Mike Lee goes on epic rant about Donald Trump
By LOUIS NELSON 06/30/2016 06:58 AM EDT
Pressed during a telephone interview Wednesday night to explain why he has not yet endorsed Donald Trump’s presidential bid, Sen. Mike Lee unloaded.
“Hey look, Steve, I get it. You want me to endorse Trump,†Lee (R-Utah) told NewsMaxTV host Steve Malzberg. “We can get into that if you want. We can get into the fact that he accused my best friend’s father of conspiring to kill JFK. We can go through the fact that he’s made statements that some have identified correctly as religiously intolerant.
We can get into the fact that he’s wildly unpopular in my state, in part because my state consists of people who are members of a religious minority church.
A people who were ordered exterminated by the governor of Missouri in 1838. And, statements like that make them nervous.â€
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Yet, Lee is on the list of 25 and was interviewed by the president last summer for the SCOTUS vacancy.
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As this law currently exists, the Congress has the power of nullification. So yeah, they can do more than whine.
Congress has the authority to nullify the emergency declaration, not the law under which the emergency was declared.
What the constitutional geniuses in the Republican senate should have done was vote for the emergency declaration (they agree with it) and then amend or end the law on the books.
Constitutional experts should know Congress cannot pick and choose the laws they will not uphold simply because they don't like the man who's exercising the authority they gave him.
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Yet, Lee is on the list of 25 and was interviewed by the president last summer for the SCOTUS vacancy.
Proving again that President Trump only hires the best people
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Congress has the authority to nullify the emergency declaration, not the law under which the emergency was declared.
Of course they can. The Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 was repealed in 1864.
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Of course they can. The Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 was repealed in 1864.
Repeal is not nullification. Repeal requires debate and a vote. Nullification keeps the law as written but chooses to ignore it.
Congress doesn't have the authority to nullify at will all or part of laws it passed and were signed into law. Repeal it or follow it. This is the legal foundation we rely on.
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Proving again that President Trump only hires the best people
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Like Jeffrey Sessions.
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Sessions was a political payoff to the GOP and not entirely the President's fault.
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Sessions was a political payoff to the GOP and not entirely the President's fault.
Nonsense. Sessions was recommended by Giuliani, after he turned down the AG job. He wanted Sec State.
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Mike Lee, Mitt Romney vote to block Trump's national emergency declaration
KSL.com, Mar 15, 2019, Dennis Romboy
SALT LAKE CITY — Utah's two senators were among a dozen Republicans voting to buck President Donald Trump's declaration of a national emergency for funds to build a wall on the southern border.
Both Sen. Mike Lee and Sen. Mitt Romney voted for the Democratic measure to disapprove Trump's order, which passed 59-41. The House previously passed the resolution.
Lee in a Senate floor speech blamed Congress for "voluntarily" relinquishing its legislative power to the White House.
"This is not about the president. This is not about my disagreement with or disapproval of the president or his approach to border security or his approach to build a barrier along our southern border. I think all those things need to happen,†Lee, R-Utah, said.
"But this law, Mr. President, is wrong. It’s not President Trump's fault. It Congress'."
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After weeks of holding his decision close to the vest, Romney, R-Utah, said early Thursday's that he would vote for the resolution to disapprove the emergency declaration.
"This is a vote for the Constitution and for the balance of powers that is at its core. For the executive branch to override a law passed by Congress would make it the ultimate power rather than a balancing power," Romney said in a statement.
More: https://www.ksl.com/article/46510989/mike-lee-mitt-romney-vote-to-block-trumps-national-emergency-declaration (https://www.ksl.com/article/46510989/mike-lee-mitt-romney-vote-to-block-trumps-national-emergency-declaration)
I expected better out of Mike Lee,but Romney has never been anything other than self-serving pond scum.
Vote the bastids out of office if they are on your ballots.
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Sessions was a political payoff to the GOP and not entirely the President's fault.
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Not his fault???????????????????
JESUS, MARY and JOSEPH!!!!!!!!!
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Well perhaps you can show me another instance of the Emergency power being used to directly thwart the will of Congress and end run the House's power of the purse...
I disagree. I don't think they are scared of anything. I think they are standing right where they should be - On principle.
And I also disagree that this is within presidential power. I think he's buying himself an impeachment.
An end run around a progressive congress is a good thing. Without border security we will lose
the country if we haven't lost it already. The money was allocated legally to the military Trump
(Commander in Chief of US armed forces) is just directing the military to use it for the wall. All
perfectly legal and constitutional says our number one lawyer Bill Barr. The issue will no doubt go
to the SC where Trump will prevail.
Are so saying a commander in the field short of ammo can't use monies allocated for uniforms to
buy bullets? That just plain crazy.
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Congress that is Constitutionally responsible for appropriating funds.
One more time the money was already allocated to the US Defense Department. Trump (CiC) is directing the US Military to use it on the wall. All perfectly legit and constitutional. Why do ya'll have
such a problem with President Trump doing all he can to secure our borders and protect the American people from an invasion by a hostile foreign entity.
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Yet, Lee is on the list of 25 and was interviewed by the president last summer for the SCOTUS vacancy.
I'm pretty sure he off that list now. Rand Paul is catching holly hell from conservative Trump
supporters. He might have screwed up his 2022 chances.
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"This is a vote for the Constitution and for the balance of powers that is at its core. For the executive branch to override a law passed by Congress would make it the ultimate power rather than a balancing power," Romney said in a statement."
Mike Lee wants paid family leave and he want to fund it with Social Security funds! What was that about the Constitution, Lee?
22222frying pan
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I don't give a single rusty crap about Mormons.
Mike Lee has always been a reliable Conservative and has the record to prove it. And Rand Paul, while more of a libertarian in thought, ain't damn far behind.
Cruz is the one going wobbly.
Cruz had his bit to say, too. Made sense to me. Ex post facto laws aren't Constitutional either. Cruz's take was that the current declaration stands, but the law had to be changed to prevent (Democrat) abuse in the future.
Now, that makes sense, no matter who you are.
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Don't you mean Lee, Romney and Rand Paul ? ALL RINO'S. ZERO TO DO WITH CONSERVATISM. How do you equate BORDER SECURITY..SAFETY FOR PEOPLE AND OUT SOVEREIGNTY WITH BEING..CONSERVATIVE?
It is about SAFETY...FIRST. SURVIVAL. No wonder I had you on ignore. Food for thought below. Pedophilia in LDS church?
@LegalAmerican
<Personal insult removed>
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Cruz had his bit to say, too. Made sense to me. Ex post facto laws aren't Constitutional either. Cruz's take was that the current declaration stands, but the law had to be changed to prevent (Democrat) abuse in the future.
Now, that makes sense, no matter who you are.
That's the way I see it as well. (For about the tenth time now.) Some people seem to have very misguided ideas about how this stuff is actually supposed to work in our Constitutional Republic.
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@LegalAmerican
<Personal insult removed>
@Mod2 You’re no dang fun! ‘sides, you know I was right!
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That's the way I see it as well. (For about the tenth time now.) Some people seem to have very misguided ideas about how this stuff is actually supposed to work in our Constitutional Republic.
@Bigun
The problem is we MUST stop it now because if we don't,there won't BE a future in America where is will be possible for us to change it.
I can't pin-point exactly when it happened,but we are already WAAAAY past the tipping point when it comes to saving America for us to be playing kissy-face with traitors. We either stop them NOW,or the next step is vigilantism because the next step will be playing kissy-face with them using hatchets.
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An end run around a progressive congress is a good thing. Without border security we will lose
the country if we haven't lost it already. The money was allocated legally to the military Trump
(Commander in Chief of US armed forces) is just directing the military to use it for the wall. All
perfectly legal and constitutional says our number one lawyer Bill Barr. The issue will no doubt go
to the SC where Trump will prevail.
Are so saying a commander in the field short of ammo can't use monies allocated for uniforms to
buy bullets? That just plain crazy.
Bullcrap.
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I'm pretty sure he off that list now. Rand Paul is catching holly hell from conservative Trump
supporters. He might have screwed up his 2022 chances.
I agree. He WAS.....now he isn't. I don't see he point, just because he was once interviewed. HE FAILED TWICE, NOW.
MiKe Lee is a liar. I am happy Rand Paul is getting flak...I never trusted HOWDY DOODY. BOTH LEE, PAUL ARE RINO'S...and NT'S...same as Mitt Romney.
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Normally I'd be offended by someone putting me in the same Orbit as Mitt Romney, considering I never voted for the guy (or your guy either for that matter but it's besides the point), @LegalAmerican just cause some of us don't drink the Orange Kool~Aid doesn't make us Haters!
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I agree. He WAS.....now he isn't. I don't see he point, just because he was once interviewed. HE FAILED TWICE, NOW.
MiKe Lee is a liar. I am happy Rand Paul is getting flak...I never trusted HOWDY DOODY. BOTH LEE, PAUL ARE RINO'S...and NT'S...same as Mitt Romney.
Mike Lee is not a liar. You (and I) may not agree with this decision, but that does not make him a liar.