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Title: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 15, 2017, 06:00:06 pm
Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
DC Whispers, Nov 14, 2017

It was a rather cagey move via Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. The longtime anti-Trumper was barely able to conceal his smirk as he informed the media that should Roy Moore win next month’s Alabama special election to fill the vacant Senate seat created when Jeff Sessions became the U.S. Attorney General, it would be up to President Trump to make the final decision regarding whether or not Moore would be allowed to actually serve in the Senate.

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Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 15, 2017, 06:00:24 pm
DC is a cesspool.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: aligncare on November 15, 2017, 06:06:51 pm
DC is a cesspool.

There’s a big difference between a cesspool and DC.  Cesspools are cleaned out every few years.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: edpc on November 15, 2017, 06:19:03 pm
It was a rather cagey move via Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. The longtime anti-Trumper was barely able to conceal his smirk as he informed the media that should Roy Moore win next month’s Alabama special election to fill the vacant Senate seat created when Jeff Sessions became the U.S. Attorney General, it would be up to President Trump to make the final decision regarding whether or not Moore would be allowed to actually serve in the Senate.


Where is presidential approval in the 17th Amendment or original draft of The Constitution, stating how Senators assume office?
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: INVAR on November 15, 2017, 06:36:55 pm
it would be up to President Trump to make the final decision regarding whether or not Moore would be allowed to actually serve in the Senate.

When was it exactly that the Executive was granted power to decide whom may serve in the Senate or the House?

The advocates for a dictatorship are growing exponentially it seems.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: bilo on November 15, 2017, 07:07:27 pm

Where is presidential approval in the 17th Amendment or original draft of The Constitution, stating how Senators assume office?

I was wondering the same thing.

BTW, I don't believe the Senate can keep him from taking the seat either.

I sure hope he wins. I don't like bullies and mob rule is a type of bully to my way of thinking.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: GrouchoTex on November 15, 2017, 07:15:38 pm
No, not actually saying Trump will pick the Senator, but a political move, of course.

Trump can support, or withdraw support on Moore, and it puts him in a bit of a no-win situation.
Does he stand by him, and have all his critics say "No surprise from the man who said grab'em by the p***y".
Or, does he not support him and have his critics say "See, he's not interested in draining the swamp, he's one of them".

The best thing Trump can do is say "This is up to the people of Alabama to decide", and leave it alone.
McConnell is counting on him not doing that.

The history of Trump and his tweets show that McConnell is probably right, in this regard.

Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: edpc on November 15, 2017, 07:23:31 pm
Trump can support, or withdraw support on Moore, and it puts him in a bit of a no-win situation.

Or he can say to write in Luther Strange, the guy he originally endorsed.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: GrouchoTex on November 15, 2017, 07:27:23 pm
Or he can say to write in Luther Strange, the guy he originally endorsed.

It still puts him in the " He's not really interested in draining the swamp" line of criticism category, but it is probably better than being in the endorsement camp, at this point.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 15, 2017, 07:38:21 pm
This is a golden opportunity to butt out, which I suppose that means he'll do one of the other options.  My Humble Opinion?  "This is a decision for the people of AL.  Of course I have my preference, but it's not up to me."

Can anybody imagine Trump saying something like that?
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: corbe on November 15, 2017, 07:42:01 pm
No, not actually saying Trump will pick the Senator, but a political move, of course.

Trump can support, or withdraw support on Moore, and it puts him in a bit of a no-win situation.
Does he stand by him, and have all his critics say "No surprise from the man who said grab'em by the p***y".
Or, does he not support him and have his critics say "See, he's not interested in draining the swamp, he's one of them".

The best thing Trump can do is say "This is up to the people of Alabama to decide", and leave it alone.
McConnell is counting on him not doing that.

The history of Trump and his tweets show that McConnell is probably right, in this regard.



   Good post @GrouchoTex If Trump is smart he stays away from this crap but we know he's not capable of that.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: GrouchoTex on November 15, 2017, 07:42:02 pm
This is a golden opportunity to butt out, which I suppose that means he'll do one of the other options.  My Humble Opinion?  "This is a decision for the people of AL.  Of course I have my preference, but it's not up to me."

Can anybody imagine Trump saying something like that?
No, I cannot imagine that, but I do agree with you. That is what he should do.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: txradioguy on November 15, 2017, 07:42:27 pm
It still puts him in the " He's not really interested in draining the swamp" line of criticism category, but it is probably better than being in the endorsement camp, at this point.

That's especially true since McConnell wanted Strage in that seat because he will vote whatever way Mitch tells him to.  Moore won't do that.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 15, 2017, 07:44:37 pm
If this was a Mitch plan to screw Donny, it blew up in his face. It exposed that he has no power since Moore is still running.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: GrouchoTex on November 15, 2017, 07:45:51 pm
   Good post @GrouchoTex If Trump is smart he stays away from this crap but we know he's not capable of that.

Thank you.

Instead of  the title being "Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal", it should probably read "Mitch McConnell bates POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal".
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: INVAR on November 15, 2017, 07:57:55 pm
If this was a Mitch plan to screw Donny, it blew up in his face. It exposed that he has no power since Moore is still running.

Depends on how much damage was done and how much more they will attempt to bring to ensure he loses the race.

Then there is always plan'C' if the voters give Mitch the big fat middle finger and elect Moore anyway - and it has been alluded to on several fronts already.

I do not expect McConnell to allow a possible cog in the Statist machinery to be seated.  He prefers a Democrat get the seat.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 15, 2017, 08:18:12 pm
Depends on how much damage was done and how much more they will attempt to bring to ensure he loses the race.

Then there is always plan'C' if the voters give Mitch the big fat middle finger and elect Moore anyway - and it has been alluded to on several fronts already.

I do not expect McConnell to allow a possible cog in the Statist machinery to be seated.  He prefers a Democrat get the seat.

True, but this is a far more messy business than the turtle counted on. He expected Roy would cower from his announcement that he leave the race. Instead polling is showing he has a better than 50% shot of winning
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: roamer_1 on November 15, 2017, 08:21:34 pm
If this was a Mitch plan to screw Donny, it blew up in his face. It exposed that he has no power since Moore is still running.

And WINNING, btw...
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on November 15, 2017, 08:24:22 pm
DC is a cesspool.

That is what happens when a party abandons integrity, morality, and principles in exchange for winning at all costs.

Bring back the swamp.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: Bigun on November 15, 2017, 10:08:02 pm
That is what happens when a party abandons integrity, morality, and principles in exchange for winning at all costs.

Bring back the swamp.

There hasn't been ANY integrity in that place for longer than you have been alive punk!  And they are DETERMINED to make sure it stays that way!
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on November 15, 2017, 10:16:45 pm
There hasn't been ANY integrity in that place for longer than you have been alive punk!  And they are DETERMINED to make sure it stays that way!

Last person who called me a Punk was senile Bigun.  I turned 51 today.  I have enough hair on my ass to weave an Indian blanket.  Old doesn't equal wise.  Maybe you need to grow up.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: edpc on November 15, 2017, 10:18:33 pm
@Once-Ler

I am burning all of my Indian blankets.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: Bigun on November 15, 2017, 10:19:19 pm
Last person who called me a Punk was senile Bigun.  I turned 51 today.  I have enough hair on my ass to weave an Indian blanket.  Old doesn't equal wise.  Maybe you need to grow up.

One of us DAMNED sure does! and it ain't me!

BTW: You and the rest of the lynch mob here can ALL GTH!
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: INVAR on November 15, 2017, 10:20:49 pm
That is what happens when a party abandons integrity, morality, and principles in exchange for winning at all costs.

That was last year's admonition.

It is so yesterday.

Today's admonition is that the Ruling Class Oligarchy is going to pick our rulers for us, because the little people cannot be trusted to choose wisely.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: Bigun on November 15, 2017, 10:22:40 pm
Today's admonition is that the Ruling Class Oligarchy is going to pick our rulers for us, because the little people cannot be trusted to choose wisely.

 :amen: :amen: and :amen:

Try to pick one that does not have the GOPe stamp of approval and see what happens!
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell Fights Back Against POTUS Trump With Roy Moore Scandal
Post by: libertybele on November 16, 2017, 01:23:44 am

Where is presidential approval in the 17th Amendment or original draft of The Constitution, stating how Senators assume office?

I didn't find where the executive branch has any authority. However, Article I, Section 5 of the U.S. Constitution states; "Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members, and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the attendance of absent members, in such manner, and under such penalties as each House may provide."

This had been interpreted that members of the House of Representatives and of the Senate could refuse to recognize the election or appointment of a new representative or senator for any reason, often political heterodoxy or criminal record. Powell v. McCormack (1969) limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency. From the decision by Chief Justice Earl Warren: "Therefore, we hold that, since Adam Clayton Powell, Jr., was duly elected by the voters of the 18th Congressional District of New York and was not ineligible to serve under any provision of the Constitution, the House was without power to exclude him from its membership.".....

The Federal Contested Elections Act of 1969 currently lays out the procedures by which each House determines contested elections.

The Federal Contested Elections Act of 1969, also FCEA provides a procedure for candidates to the United States House of Representatives to contest general elections by filing with the Clerk of the House. The law delegates all matters involving contested elections first to the Committee on House Administration, which receives jurisdiction of such matters by the rules of the House..........


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unseated_members_of_the_United_States_Congress
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Contested_Elections_Act