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'We're all different…we've forgotten that that's okay': Ellen DeGeneres defends herself after being pilloried online for sitting with her 'friend' George W. Bush at a Dallas Cowboys game
Ellen DeGeneres defended herself after coming under fire for sitting next to former president George W. Bush at Sunday's Dallas Cowboys football game
The comedian posted a clip from Tuesday's pre-recorded show to Twitter where she addressed the tweetstorm that came her way
'Here's the thing: I'm friends with George Bush. In fact, I'm friends with a lot of people who don't share the same beliefs that I have,' DeGeneres said
Viewers had mixed feelings about Bush and DeGeneres sitting together, with some slamming the talk show host
The daytime talk show host explained that she and her wife Portia de Rossi were invited to the game by Charlotte Jones, daughter of Cowboys owner Jerry Jones
By Kayla Brantley For Dailymail.com
Published: 01:50 EDT, 8 October 2019 | Updated: 09:16 EDT, 8 October 2019
Ellen DeGeneres has defended herself after coming under fire for sitting next to former president George W. Bush at Sunday's Dallas Cowboys football game.
The comedian posted a clip from Tuesday's pre-recorded show to Twitter where she addressed the tweetstorm that came her way, captioning the video: 'Yes, that was me at the Cowboys game with George W. Bush over the weekend. Here's the whole story.'
'Here's the thing: I'm friends with George Bush. In fact, I'm friends with a lot of people who don't share the same beliefs that I have,' DeGeneres said.
'We're all different and I think that we've forgotten that that's okay that we're all different... but just because I don't agree with someone on everything doesn't mean that I'm not going to be friends with them,' she added.
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Good for Ellen.
Notice that no one on the right is complaining that Bush sat next to DeGeneres.
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imho...this is a huge nothing burger. I know that lots of folks don't like W. Even I am ambivalent about all that happened in 8 years. If Trump is reelected...we'll see how much praise he gets at the end of a second term. Presidents do good and presidents do bad.
But a liberal media personality sitting next to him in an owners box??? Why is that even newsworthy?
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Good for Ellen.
Notice that no one on the right is complaining that Bush sat next to DeGeneres.
Exactly.
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Everyone is falling all over themselves to talk about how great this is...and they ignore the fact that the one and only thing that brings them together as "friends" is their shared hatred of the current President.
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Everyone is falling all over themselves to talk about how great this is...and they ignore the fact that the one and only thing that brings them together as "friends" is their shared hatred of the current President.
I don't know, man. I don't think either one of them are haters, which is kind of the point. People can disagree without hating on each other.
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I don't know, man. I don't think either one of them are haters, which is kind of the point. People can disagree without hating on each other.
Twitter feeds from Ellen and her producer tell a different story. Hell W didn't even vote for Trump in 2016.
“We’ve seen nationalism distorted into nativism, forgotten the dynamism that immigration has always brought to America,†Mr. Bush said. “We see a fading confidence in the value of free markets and international trade, forgetting that conflict, instability and poverty follow in the wake of protectionism. We’ve seen the return of isolationist sentiments, forgetting that American security is directly threatened by the chaos and despair of distant places.â€
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/us/politics/george-bush-trump.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/us/politics/george-bush-trump.html)
That's Bush referring to Trump two years ago.
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I don't know, man. I don't think either one of them are haters, which is kind of the point. People can disagree without hating on each other.
People should be able to associate with whom ever they wish with out the perpetually offended having a say about. Really it is not like they actually matter a damn bit.
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Why would anyone object to two liberals hanging out? :shrug:
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Being that they are 'somewhat' Dallas Cowboy/Jerry Jones fans told me all I need to know.
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Everyone is falling all over themselves to talk about how great this is...and they ignore the fact that the one and only thing that brings them together as "friends" is their shared hatred of the current President.
Aw, C'mon. Who wants to be identified only by their politics? Dennis Miller once said that if all you know about somebody is their politics, you really don't know them very well at all.
As far as I know, DeGeneres is a fine person. She is certainly a funny person, I've seen her stand-up act. At one point early in the show, she paused and said, "Look, I need to get the following lesbian jokes out of the way, so I can concentrate the rest of the time on stuff that's funny." And she did.
Bush? I dunno. I guess you could keep him because I didn't find him amusing. I like to laugh, so I'd pick Ellen over Dubya to watch something with. rrthree
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Aw, C'mon. Who wants to be identified only by their politics? Dennis Miller once said that if all you know about somebody is their politics, you really don't know them very well at all.
As far as I know, DeGeneres is a fine person. She is certainly a funny person, I've seen her stand-up act. At one point early in the show, she paused and said, "Look, I need to get the following lesbian jokes out of the way, so I can concentrate the rest of the time on stuff that's funny." And she did.
Bush? I dunno. I guess you could keep him because I didn't find him amusing. I like to laugh, so I'd pick Ellen over Dubya to watch something with. rrthree
She's a progressive Liberal that stands for pretty much everything I'm agaisnt. I don't in any way find her cute entertaining or amusing. She's got her cutesy act down pat for TV...but she's trashed Kavanaugh...fawned over just about every Progressive running for the Presidency in 2020...urged school aged kids to "strike" and walk out of class in support of climate change...thinks Mooochelle Obama is "amazing" thinks Trump is "dangerous for our country.
So yeah I might have a few reasons to not like her and not like seeing her sitting next to a guy that until Trump came along she didn't like either.
And it's disappointing to see him buddying up to the Liberals who spent 8 years trashing everything he tried to do for the country.
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Love your enemy, do good to those who hate you. :shrug: Heard that somewhere.
I get along fine with some people whose politics are different from mine. Others, not so much, mainly the ones who just can't shut up about it and who aren't respectful of other people.
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This is similar to what happened when Elton John played for Rush Limbaugh's wedding. He was pilloried by the left. On the other hand Limbaugh appeared on the Television show "Hearts afire"with John Ritter, and Markie Post. Rush said they had a great time and that 4-5 of them played a board game after shooting the episode and it was fun. His quote on the event was "You can disagree with out being disagreeable"
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Good for Ellen.
Notice that no one on the right is complaining that Bush sat next to DeGeneres.
Most everyone on the right:
1. Hates Bush already (see: Trumpists)
2. Is dead
3. Has been bullied into silence by the alpahbet-soup lobby
4. Has been converted to the alphabet soup lobby's cause
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Most everyone on the right:
1. Hates Bush already (see: Trumpists)
2. Is dead
3. Has been bullied into silence by the alpahbet-soup lobby
4. Has been converted to the alphabet soup lobby's cause
Well I don't fit any of those four. I have nothing against either of them, or their wives for that matter.
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"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you."
Luke 6:27-28
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The Bushes are charming people, as is Ellen despite her political activism. The twitter mob needs to find another hobby ... political segregation is unhealthy.
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The Bushes are charming people, as is Ellen despite her political activism. The twitter mob needs to find another hobby ... political segregation is unhealthy.
I'm old enough to remember several kinds of segregation -- not just political or racial. My parents were of different ethnic backgrounds and their marriage caused an uproar in the two families. The different ethnicities lived in separate neighborhoods and they were all Catholic. When I was a kid, a family of Lutherans moved in two doors down. Their son was the same age as my brother and went to the same school. They became close friends. Eventually, even the schools and neighborhoods got rid of racial segregation. Now if you go to my old neighborhood or visit my old high school, you will see all kinds of people -- back, white, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, and yes, there is a pair of homosexuals living a few doors down from my childhood home.
My point is, I thought we put aside all those silly differences and were getting along with all kinds of people, but it seems that lately, there are individuals and groups from every corner who are trying to get us to revert back to the old days when one didn't associate with a person who was different. Now I wouldn't mind a return to 1950s values and decency, but dividing people according to racial, religious, ethnic or political lines -- no.
Enough is enough.
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I'm old enough to remember several kinds of segregation -- not just political or racial. My parents were of different ethnic backgrounds and their marriage caused an uproar in the two families. The different ethnicities lived in separate neighborhoods and they were all Catholic. When I was a kid, a family of Lutherans moved in two doors down. Their son was the same age as my brother and went to the same school. They became close friends. Eventually, even the schools and neighborhoods got rid of racial segregation. Now if you go to my old neighborhood or visit my old high school, you will see all kinds of people -- back, white, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, and yes, there is a pair of homosexuals living a few doors down from my childhood home.
My point is, I thought we put aside all those silly differences and were getting along with all kinds of people, but it seems that lately, there are individuals and groups from every corner who are trying to get us to revert back to the old days when one didn't associate with a person who was different. Now I wouldn't mind a return to 1950s values and decency, but dividing people according to racial, religious, ethnic or political lines -- no.
Enough is enough.
When are we as Conservatives gonna learn that all this reaching across the aisle bipartisianship gets us nothing but a bloody stump where our arm used to be?
The woman despises virtually everything we as a group...Conservatives...Republicans...Americans stand for.
Sorry...not sorry...her cozying up to a man that for seven of his eight years in office was called a warmonger and worse by her and her ilk will never be right or justified or ok in any way shape or form with me.
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She's a progressive Liberal that stands for pretty much everything I'm agaisnt. I don't in any way find her cute entertaining or amusing. She's got her cutesy act down pat for TV...but she's trashed Kavanaugh...fawned over just about every Progressive running for the Presidency in 2020...urged school aged kids to "strike" and walk out of class in support of climate change...thinks Mooochelle Obama is "amazing" thinks Trump is "dangerous for our country.
So yeah I might have a few reasons to not like her and not like seeing her sitting next to a guy that until Trump came along she didn't like either.
And it's disappointing to see him buddying up to the Liberals who spent 8 years trashing everything he tried to do for the country.
I rarely disagree with you @txradioguy , but I do here.
I don't have a problem with sitting next to someone with a differing view of politics at a ball game, and I'm not disappointed in W for being his typical friendly self.
I think the uproar about this is ridiculous, but maybe that's just me.
With so much to really be concerned about it today's deteriorating/deteriorated culture and values, this just ain't nothing to get worked up about. :shrug:
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The Bushes are charming people, as is Ellen despite her political activism. The twitter mob needs to find another hobby ... political segregation is unhealthy.
Agreed.
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When are we as Conservatives gonna learn that all this reaching across the aisle bipartisianship gets us nothing but a bloody stump where our arm used to be?
The woman despises virtually everything we as a group...Conservatives...Republicans...Americans stand for.
Sorry...not sorry...her cozying up to a man that for seven of his eight years in office was called a warmonger and worse by her and her ilk will never be right or justified or ok in any way shape or form with me.
Well, I agree that we can no longer "reach across the aisle" as both sides did at one time. But as far as I can tell, this was a ballgame, not some sort of political event. George Bush is no longer president; I don't believe he has influence over political matters now, even if he and Ellen were talking about something political.
And while George Bush was a Republican, he wasn't conservative on most domestic issues. So why wouldn't he get along with a liberal like Ellen? And even if they have political differences -- hell, even conservative Republican Ronald Reagan was golfing buddies with liberal Democrat Tip O'Neill. Since when did it become a sin for two people of different viewpoints to watch a baseball game together?
I've mentioned this before -- most of my family and friends are liberal Democrats. If I had to only associate with conservatives like me, I would be estranged from my family and lose my friends. Sorry, but I don't see anything wrong with President Bush sitting next to and chatting with Ellen DeGeneres.
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I rarely disagree with you @txradioguy , but I do here.
I don't have a problem with sitting next to someone with a differing view of politics at a ball game, and I'm not disappointed in W for being his typical friendly self.
I think the uproar about this is ridiculous, but maybe that's just me.
:thumbsup:
With so much to really be concerned about it today's deteriorating/deteriorated culture and values, this just ain't nothing to get worked up about. :shrug:
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Well, I agree that we can no longer "reach across the aisle" as both sides did at one time. But as far as I can tell, this was a ballgame, not some sort of political event. George Bush is no longer president; I don't believe he has influence over political matters now, even if he and Ellen were talking about something political.
And while George Bush was a Republican, he wasn't conservative on most domestic issues. So why wouldn't he get along with a liberal like Ellen? And even if they have political differences -- hell, even conservative Republican Ronald Reagan was golfing buddies with liberal Democrat Tip O'Neill. Since when did it become a sin for two people of different viewpoints to watch a baseball game together?
I've mentioned this before -- most of my family and friends are liberal Democrats. If I had to only associate with conservatives like me, I would be estranged from my family and lose my friends. Sorry, but I don't see anything wrong with President Bush sitting next to and chatting with Ellen DeGeneres.
I doubt they were talking politics. More that likely...just about the ballgame.
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Applewood wrote:
"Now I wouldn't mind a return to 1950s values and decency, but dividing people according to racial, religious, ethnic or political lines -- no."
Sumthin' tells me you can't have it both ways.
It's gonna be one... or... the other.
I'd prefer 1954 again.
The good... AND "the bad".
It's all fine with me.
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Applewood wrote:
"Now I wouldn't mind a return to 1950s values and decency, but dividing people according to racial, religious, ethnic or political lines -- no."
Sumthin' tells me you can't have it both ways.
It's gonna be one... or... the other.
I'd prefer 1954 again.
The good... AND "the bad".
It's all fine with me.
I'm guessing you used the fountain on the left...
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9FUmLg6WDKI/VxyMB2H607I/AAAAAAACKiI/5tl3oIhrRt0x2VUIRh3mFOPZMLiCFEutACLcB/s640/Segregation%2Bfountain%252C%2BNorth%2BCarolina%252C%2B1950.jpg)
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I'm guessing you used the fountain on the left...
Aw...C'mon, man.....
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Aw...C'mon, man.....
That was not intended as a personal insult. But the post @Fishrrman was responding to:
but dividing people according to racial, religious, ethnic or political lines -- no."
I'd prefer 1954 again.
The good... AND "the bad".
It's all fine with me.
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Aw...C'mon, man.....
I thought exactly the same thing as @thackney .
Longing for both the good and bad of 1954 means longing for segregated water fountains, bathrooms, seating on the bus.....
I thought long and hard about saying something about what @Fishrrman was saying (from pasts posts I think I know), but I'm glad that thackney said it.
In spite of the fact that the left throws the word "racism" around in meaningless and purely political ways, real racism actually does exist.
And unfortunately it rears its ugly head on occasion right here on TBR.
NO one should long for the bad parts of the 1950's in the Democrat south, and posting about it here as though it somehow represents conservatism is, to me, reprehensible.
We ought to be better than that, @Cyber Liberty . MUCH better.
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Everyone is falling all over themselves to talk about how great this is...and they ignore the fact that the one and only thing that brings them together as "friends" is their shared hatred of the current President.
That’s just stupid.
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Bush does likes him some liberal women:
(https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_full/public/blogs/clintonbush.jpg?itok=wEvexhsw)
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2018/09/01/USAT/184f8089-7845-483f-bde2-00bcd370d60d-AP_Obama_Smithsonian_African_American_Museum.jpg?crop=3942,2242,x0,y100&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds)
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That’s just stupid.
No...it's the truth.
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I wonder how long before Ellen caves and announces her hatred for Bush...
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I thought exactly the same thing as @thackney .
Longing for both the good and bad of 1954 means longing for segregated water fountains, bathrooms, seating on the bus.....
I thought long and hard about saying something about what @Fishrrman was saying (from pasts posts I think I know), but I'm glad that thackney said it.
In spite of the fact that the left throws the word "racism" around in meaningless and purely political ways, real racism actually does exist.
And unfortunately it rears its ugly head on occasion right here on TBR.
NO one should long for the bad parts of the 1950's in the Democrat south, and posting about it here as though it somehow represents conservatism is, to me, reprehensible.
We ought to be better than that, @Cyber Liberty . MUCH better.
The Mods generally handle that sort of thing through the Moderator Reporting system and PMs, not on the open forum. That's why you don't hear about it very often, and not that we've been ignoring them.
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I wonder how long before Ellen caves and announces her hatred for Bush...
I doubt that she will. She knows better than most just who she's dealing with. I thought she handled being called "Ellen Degenerate" by Jerry Falwell pretty well.
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I doubt that she will. She knows better than most just who she's dealing with. I thought she handled being called "Ellen Degenerate" by Jerry Falwell pretty well.
When all these *celebs* start boycotting her show she may change her mind...if she sticks to her guns she has my admiration..
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The Mods generally handle that sort of thing through the Moderator Reporting system and PMs, not on the open forum. That's why you don't hear about it very often, and not that we've been ignoring them.
I was surprised by @Fishrrman opinion, but it wasn't an attack on any one. I felt someone who had to drink from the other fountain likely had a very different opinion of the time, as well as many others.
Sorry for the distraction to the thread.
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I was surprised by @Fishrrman opinion, but it wasn't an attack on any one. I felt someone who had to drink from the other fountain likely had a very different opinion of the time, as well as many others.
Sorry for the distraction to the thread.
No harm, no foul my friend. :beer:
It gave me a chance to clear up something. Now, back to important stuff, like the never-ending Trump wars. *****rollingeyes*****
(Do you like pie?)
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When all these *celebs* start boycotting her show she may change her mind...if she sticks to her guns she has my admiration..
Dittos. Even if she marches to a different drum.
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The Mods generally handle that sort of thing through the Moderator Reporting system and PMs, not on the open forum. That's why you don't hear about it very often, and not that we've been ignoring them.
I appreciate knowing that.
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(Do you like pie?)
I like puh·kaan pie but I hate pee-can pie.
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I appreciate knowing that.
:beer: :beer:
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Bush does likes him some liberal women:
(https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_full/public/blogs/clintonbush.jpg?itok=wEvexhsw)
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2018/09/01/USAT/184f8089-7845-483f-bde2-00bcd370d60d-AP_Obama_Smithsonian_African_American_Museum.jpg?crop=3942,2242,x0,y100&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds)
Here's a couple of others who vigorously support Planned Parenthood.
(https://image.businessinsider.com/5bbca2d194750c1c001a84d6?width=1200&format=jpeg&auto=webp) (https://img1.southernliving.timeinc.net/sites/default/files/styles/4_3_horizontal_-_1200x900/public/1541528429/GettyImages-79999238.jpg?itok=F9BuxOAt)
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I like puh·kaan pie but I hate pee-can pie.
Spoken as a true Texan! Of course, you like the right kind....
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Being that they are 'somewhat' Dallas Cowboy/Jerry Jones fans told me all I need to know.
Ditto.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f1/39/bc/f139bcbc4a6878e700e4570e1210ebba.jpg)
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Ditto.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f1/39/bc/f139bcbc4a6878e700e4570e1210ebba.jpg)
How's that coaching search going? :whistle:
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How's that coaching search going? :whistle:
Poorly. Their scouting needs even more work because their drafting sucks. Still love them though.
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Poorly. Their scouting needs even more work because their drafting sucks. Still love them though.
There's an overpriced one in College Station I know about that just might be available in the near future after the thrashing that will be made there tomorrow. Looks like he will go 6-6 this year.
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Good for Ellen.
Notice that no one on the right is complaining that Bush sat next to DeGeneres.
@kidd
Why would we? Boy Jorge is as queer as a 3 dollar bill,and a globalist asshat to boot. He and Ellen are a matched pair and there is zero possibility of either trying to hit on the other.
BTW,just how far left do you have to be to consider one of your own a traitor for sitting next to Boy Jorge at a freaking sporting event?
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imho...this is a huge nothing burger. I know that lots of folks don't like W. Even I am ambivalent about all that happened in 8 years. If Trump is reelected...we'll see how much praise he gets at the end of a second term. Presidents do good and presidents do bad.
But a liberal media personality sitting next to him in an owners box??? Why is that even newsworthy?
@berdie
Because drama queens need something to get hysterical about like fish need water.
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Everyone is falling all over themselves to talk about how great this is...and they ignore the fact that the one and only thing that brings them together as "friends" is their shared hatred of the current President.
@txradioguy
Not true. They are both globalists,and they are both homosexuals.
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Aw, C'mon. Who wants to be identified only by their politics? Dennis Miller once said that if all you know about somebody is their politics, you really don't know them very well at all.
As far as I know, DeGeneres is a fine person. She is certainly a funny person, I've seen her stand-up act. At one point early in the show, she paused and said, "Look, I need to get the following lesbian jokes out of the way, so I can concentrate the rest of the time on stuff that's funny." And she did.
Bush? I dunno. I guess you could keep him because I didn't find him amusing. I like to laugh, so I'd pick Ellen over Dubya to watch something with. rrthree
@Cyber Liberty
I don't think Ellen is all that funny,but that doesn't matter. I think both she and Boy Jorge try to be the best people they can be according to their own world views. I just happen to think both are fools,but even fools have a right to live their lives in peace as long as they aren't bothering anyone else.
I am also VERY happy about there being no chance at all of Boy Jorge ever being a US President again.
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And it's disappointing to see him buddying up to the Liberals who spent 8 years trashing everything he tried to do for the country.
@txradioguy
DAYUM! You still think he is a conservative,don't you?
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The Bushes are charming people, as is Ellen despite her political activism. The twitter mob needs to find another hobby ... political segregation is unhealthy.
@cato potatoe
We iz da wurld......
We iz da peep-pulls......
SING IT,CATO!
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@txradioguy
DAYUM! You still think he is a conservative,don't you?
DAYUM! You really like putting words in people’s mouths don’t you?
*****rollingeyes*****
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I'm guessing you used the fountain on the left...
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9FUmLg6WDKI/VxyMB2H607I/AAAAAAACKiI/5tl3oIhrRt0x2VUIRh3mFOPZMLiCFEutACLcB/s640/Segregation%2Bfountain%252C%2BNorth%2BCarolina%252C%2B1950.jpg)
@thackney
I understand the implication that is expressed by the separate fountains,but the REALITY is the water in the drinking fountains for blacks was the same water the whites were drinking. You could very accurately claim it was the whites making fools of themselves.
That crap was all about image,not reality.