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Title: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: Elderberry on August 13, 2019, 06:42:44 pm
Real Clear Politics By Tim Hains 8/13/2019

FOX Business Network host Lou Dobbs warned President Trump Monday night that "bases come and bases go" and if he can't fulfill campaign promises on the border wall, immigration, and guns Sen. Elizabeth Warren could poach his supporters.

"His base is expecting a wall. They're expecting illegal immigration to be stopped," Dobbs said. "But, my God, November 2020 is nearing at an alarming rate."

"If this president forgets who his base is, and listens to some of the -- these folks advising him on illegal immigration, the wall, gun control, jobs, visas, the American worker, it is going to be a damn even election," Dobbs noted.

More: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/08/13/lou_dobbs_warns_trump_your_base_is_expecting_a_wall.html (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/08/13/lou_dobbs_warns_trump_your_base_is_expecting_a_wall.html)
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: austingirl on August 13, 2019, 06:57:43 pm
We're also expecting there will be no further infringements on 2A.
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: libertybele on August 13, 2019, 07:13:03 pm
We're also expecting there will be no further infringements on 2A.

This is most important and a definite deal breaker for me.  I absolutely refuse to vote for anyone that even remotely tramples on the 2A.  If that means that I don't vote in 2020, then so be it. 
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: Applewood on August 13, 2019, 07:34:41 pm
Lou should know that Trump' fans will vote for him, no matter what.  Whether there is a wall or if he signs gun control legislation -- Trump's people will excuse his behavior and vote for him -- to "save us from the Democrats."   *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: EdJames on August 13, 2019, 07:40:12 pm
I predict that by the time 11/3/2020 comes around, Dobbs will have gone from being one of his biggest nightly cheerleaders, to someone that grudgingly says "well, we have to stop the Democrat."

He was having a hard time holding back his anger recently, during a segment where they were talking about Trump selling out American workers with some bill uping the number of H1B visas.
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: Absalom on August 13, 2019, 07:40:26 pm
Lou should know that Trump' fans will vote for him, no matter what.  Whether there is a wall or if he signs gun control legislation -- Trump's people will excuse his behavior and vote for him -- to "save us from the Democrats."   *****rollingeyes*****
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Indeed, as they're mesmerized by noisy buffoons.
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: bilo on August 13, 2019, 09:18:20 pm
"If this president forgets who his base is, and listens to some of the -- these folks advising him on illegal immigration, the wall, gun control, jobs, visas, the American worker, it is going to be a damn even election," Dobbs noted.


I don't get this, the wall is being built.

On gun control I haven't seen anything that indicates our 2nd Amendment rights are going to be stripped away. So far it's all talk, which is good it gives people time to think through the issue. It's too early to run around with our hair on fire.
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: Applewood on August 13, 2019, 09:25:40 pm
"If this president forgets who his base is, and listens to some of the -- these folks advising him on illegal immigration, the wall, gun control, jobs, visas, the American worker, it is going to be a damn even election," Dobbs noted.


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On gun control I haven't seen anything that indicates our 2nd Amendment rights are going to be stripped away. So far it's all talk, which is good it gives people time to think through the issue. It's too early to run around with our hair on fire.

Trump has already indicated he is ok with red flag laws and "expanded" background checks.  Congress has several bills kicking around on gun control.  If one or more of these bills passes -- Trump has shown he will sign anything put in front of him (remember those spending spree bills he signed?). 
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: bilo on August 13, 2019, 09:58:11 pm
Trump has already indicated he is ok with red flag laws and "expanded" background checks.  Congress has several bills kicking around on gun control.  If one or more of these bills passes -- Trump has shown he will sign anything put in front of him (remember those spending spree bills he signed?).

Lets see what gets close to passing. I'm sure the NRA is letting him know how these things will impact us.

As far as the spending bills go I don't see why Trump should die fighting on that hill. The Pub party won't back him. In the end the govt will monetize the debt. If your retirement is in safe cash assets it will decline. If you're not retired and your income will adjust to the rising inflation you will be okay. We won't see this start to happen for awhile yet. The world is still buying our bonds because they are in worse shape.
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: jmyrlefuller on August 13, 2019, 10:24:14 pm
Dobbs underestimates how many people voted for Trump solely because he was NOT Hillary Clinton. If the Dems nominate someone even loonier and more shrill than her (still a possibility), he can probably shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and still win.
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: Applewood on August 14, 2019, 12:15:03 am
@bilo

Trump phoned Democratic senator to talk gun control

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said Tuesday he spoke with Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) about pressing forward on background checks in the wake of recent mass shootings.

"We had a very good conversation. We’ll see what happens," Trump told reporters while en route to a speech in Pennsylvania.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/457329-trump-phoned-democratic-senator-to-talk-gun-control
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: Absalom on August 14, 2019, 01:29:06 am
Lets see what gets close to passing. I'm sure the NRA is letting him know how these things will impact us.
As far as the spending bills go I don't see why Trump should die fighting on that hill. The Pub party won't back him. In the end the govt will monetize the debt. If your retirement is in safe cash assets it will decline. If you're not retired and your income will adjust to the rising inflation you will be okay. We won't see this start to happen for awhile yet. The world is still buying our bonds because they are in worse shape.
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An indirect analogy.
The core argument advanced in support of Tariffs is that they are necessary,
warts and all, to change China's behavior of cheating, lying and stealing
which is damaging both the finances and reputation of the USA.
We also have a behavior problem, namely irresponsible and reckless spending
but what are we told?  Why calm down as this will all work out over time. Hmm....
Reality intervenes as the only trait that emerges from unchecked bad behavior
is MORE BAD BEHAVIOR; whether it be China or the USA!!!!
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 14, 2019, 02:02:16 am
This is most important and a definite deal breaker for me.  I absolutely refuse to vote for anyone that even remotely tramples on the 2A.  If that means that I don't vote in 2020, then so be it.

Cool.  Ready for the socialists knocking on your door for your guns?
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 14, 2019, 02:09:29 am
Dobbs underestimates how many people voted for Trump solely because he was NOT Hillary Clinton. If the Dems nominate someone even loonier and more shrill than her (still a possibility), he can probably shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and still win.

Folks also understand what the President has done to build the wall and who has stopped him and how.

Really, really smart people would be talking about ways to unite not only to keep the WH and Senate, but to retake the House as well.  We're politically dead without all three.

Really, really smart people know we've got to control the influx of new judges or the wall and 2A are gone. 

Really, really smart people would take a step back and recognize our fire should be aimed outside the circle.

At least this is what I've heard.   :shrug:
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: montanajoe on August 14, 2019, 04:09:21 am
Folks also understand what the President has done to build the wall and who has stopped him and how.

Really, really smart people would be talking about ways to unite not only to keep the WH and Senate, but to retake the House as well.  We're politically dead without all three.

Really, really smart people know we've got to control the influx of new judges or the wall and 2A are gone. 

Really, really smart people would take a step back and recognize our fire should be aimed outside the circle.

At least this is what I've heard.   :shrug:

Problem is Trump doesn't appeal to Really, really smart people... :shrug:
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: roamer_1 on August 14, 2019, 04:28:43 am
Cool.  Ready for the socialists knocking on your door for your guns?

Which ones? The Democrats, or you guys?
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: Chosen Daughter on August 14, 2019, 05:02:32 am
This is most important and a definite deal breaker for me.  I absolutely refuse to vote for anyone that even remotely tramples on the 2A.  If that means that I don't vote in 2020, then so be it.

@austingirl and @libertybele , Me too!
Title: Re: Lou Dobbs Warns Trump: Your Base "Is Expecting A Wall" By November 2020
Post by: Chosen Daughter on August 14, 2019, 05:07:42 am
I predict that by the time 11/3/2020 comes around, Dobbs will have gone from being one of his biggest nightly cheerleaders, to someone that grudgingly says "well, we have to stop the Democrat."

He was having a hard time holding back his anger recently, during a segment where they were talking about Trump selling out American workers with some bill uping the number of H1B visas.


Yes, that was Kushner's baby.  Raising H1B and not stopping illegal immigrants.  So they are coming for the low wage jobs and the high wage jobs.  Basically acing Americans out of jobs.  Ted Cruz had a video during presidential campaign with suits and ties running across the border.  Boy was he right.