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Title: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Silver Pines on August 03, 2018, 12:08:19 pm

A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich

By Jonah Goldberg
August 3, 2018


Some disordered and lost souls keep saying hot dogs are sandwiches. They are wrong, and here’s why.

Sausage is one of the oldest forms of processed food,” according to the National Hot Dog and Sausage Council (NHDSC), and anyone who wants to disagree with these heroes will be on the fighting side of me. Frankfurt is generally credited as the birthplace of the hot dog (hence the name “frankfurter”), which locals called a “dachshund” or “little dog” sausage...

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Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Silver Pines on August 03, 2018, 12:09:40 pm
I think Goldberg is right.  A hot dog on two slices of bread is not a hot dog, but a travesty.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: catfish1957 on August 03, 2018, 12:24:42 pm
I think Goldberg is right.  A hot dog on two slices of bread is not a hot dog, but a travesty.

Hot Dogs....   The original "mystery meat"
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Silver Pines on August 03, 2018, 12:35:38 pm
Hot Dogs....   The original "mystery meat"

@catfish1957

Lol, yep.  I love them, bug filler and all.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Restored on August 03, 2018, 12:36:39 pm
Quote
A hot dog on two slices of bread is not a hot dog, but a
baloney sandwich.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Jazzhead on August 03, 2018, 12:51:08 pm
Some tasks are impossible.   For me, it's going to a ballgame and not having a hot dog.   Speaking of which,  I'll be at Shane Victorino's retirement celebration tonight at the Phillies game.   A friend of mine told me recently that Shane is why she loves baseball,  because he played with so much joy.   
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Frank Cannon on August 03, 2018, 01:15:55 pm
So then a sausage sandwich isn't a sandwich?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Italian_Sausage_Sandwich.jpg/250px-Italian_Sausage_Sandwich.jpg)
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: 240B on August 03, 2018, 01:38:35 pm
(http://doghalloweencostumeshop.com/images/thumbnails/hot-dog-with-mustard-dog-costume.JPG)
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Sanguine on August 03, 2018, 02:31:17 pm
That's great.  Jonah at his best.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Millee on August 03, 2018, 02:56:27 pm
So then a sausage sandwich isn't a sandwich?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Italian_Sausage_Sandwich.jpg/250px-Italian_Sausage_Sandwich.jpg)

Dang that looks good!!!
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Silver Pines on August 03, 2018, 03:31:31 pm
baloney sandwich.

@Restored

EXACTLY
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Silver Pines on August 03, 2018, 03:32:52 pm
So then a sausage sandwich isn't a sandwich?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Italian_Sausage_Sandwich.jpg/250px-Italian_Sausage_Sandwich.jpg)

That’s a dressed-up misnamed hot dog.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: dfwgator on August 03, 2018, 04:03:31 pm
As long as you don't put ketchup on one....

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Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: 240B on August 03, 2018, 04:13:58 pm
Ketchup on a Hot Dog is illegal in NY and Chicago. You can go to jail for that, unless you are a child under 10.
I agree with Harry. I once tried a Hot Dog with Ketchup years ago. It almost made me sick.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: jpsb on August 03, 2018, 04:15:35 pm
I think Goldberg is right.  A hot dog on two slices of bread is not a hot dog, but a travesty.

LOL, silly girl, you put a hot dog on one slice of bread!  wink777
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Silver Pines on August 03, 2018, 04:38:00 pm
Ketchup on a Hot Dog is illegal in NY and Chicago. You can go to jail for that, unless you are a child under 10.
I agree with Harry. I once tried a Hot Dog with Ketchup years ago. It almost made me sick.

@240B

 That’s bad.  We have a local chain called The Weenie Stand...I was in there once and heard someone order a hot dog with mayo only.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Silver Pines on August 03, 2018, 04:38:35 pm
LOL, silly girl, you put a hot dog on one slice of bread!  wink777

@jpsb

 ****slapping
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: 240B on August 03, 2018, 09:44:50 pm
If you guys notice that things are a little askew today,...that would be me. It is my fault.
Yesterday I cooked up a pan of eggplant parmesan. Based on this thread, I took out a hoagie bun and toasted it dark. Then I slathered garlic butter all over it. Put a serving of the eggplant parm in the toasted buttered hoagie bun, and subsequently lost my freakin' mind. It was fantastic.

But in doing this, I think I broke the space-time continuum. Things have been a little hinky since I broke causality. I'll have a flank steak with potatoes and brussels sprouts later. I'm hoping this will return everything to normal.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: RoosGirl on August 03, 2018, 09:54:21 pm
@240B

 That’s bad.  We have a local chain called The Weenie Stand...I was in there once and heard someone order a hot dog with mayo only.

That's the way my grandfather ate them.  Gak!
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 04, 2018, 12:26:47 am
That's the way my grandfather ate them.  Gak!

I almost had to post that recipe for Spaghettio Jello, just to cleanse my mind.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Sanguine on August 04, 2018, 12:28:58 am
I almost had to post that recipe for Spaghettio Jello, just to cleanse my mind.

Yeah, that'll work....
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Polly Ticks on August 04, 2018, 12:18:27 pm
Agreed, a hot dog is not a sandwich.  However, it WAS the perfect culinary note last night at the ballpark for the Bluegrass World Series.

(Johnny Bench is looking pretty good, by the way, and had a lot of fun with the fans.)
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: 240B on August 04, 2018, 12:41:19 pm
LOL, silly girl, you put a hot dog on one slice of bread!  wink777
(https://i.imgflip.com/20lpd7.jpg)
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Suppressed on August 04, 2018, 05:14:52 pm
(https://i.imgflip.com/20lpd7.jpg)

Hot dog buns were only for picnics!
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: edpc on August 04, 2018, 06:59:14 pm
If you’re forced to use bread, it works better diagonally.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Silver Pines on August 04, 2018, 07:04:01 pm
Now I'm thinking of Eddie Murphy and the welfare burger his mama made him.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Wingnut on August 04, 2018, 07:14:02 pm
(https://i.imgflip.com/20lpd7.jpg)

Just like  the ones made with the Tang. You have to pinch the corners

(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/marriedwithchildren/images/4/4c/Tang_Sandwich.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130807235911)
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 04, 2018, 07:29:54 pm
Just like  the ones made with the Tang. You have to pinch the corners

(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/marriedwithchildren/images/4/4c/Tang_Sandwich.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130807235911)

They thwarted us...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/351679163033-0-1/s-l1000.jpg)
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: 240B on August 04, 2018, 08:03:13 pm

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a1/a9/7f/a1a97f2d66c68641796b63c3df241dd6.jpg)
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81-%2BfccNTkL._UX679_.jpg)


(https://images-gmi-pmc.edge-generalmills.com/02b5a81f-bd74-419a-ba64-598ce294aab8.jpg)
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 04, 2018, 08:17:15 pm
https://www.tablespoon.com/recipes/pretzel-woven-hot-dogs/f2dc00ad-a2b3-4b5e-8f58-00a557772ce4?crlt.pid=camp.vtbfbuijizj1 (https://www.tablespoon.com/recipes/pretzel-woven-hot-dogs/f2dc00ad-a2b3-4b5e-8f58-00a557772ce4?crlt.pid=camp.vtbfbuijizj1)
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Wingnut on August 04, 2018, 08:28:59 pm

(https://images-gmi-pmc.edge-generalmills.com/02b5a81f-bd74-419a-ba64-598ce294aab8.jpg)

WTF is that.  A jail Break?
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on August 05, 2018, 08:43:58 am

(https://images-gmi-pmc.edge-generalmills.com/02b5a81f-bd74-419a-ba64-598ce294aab8.jpg)

(http://www.bbqaddicts.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/bacon-2.jpg)
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: AmericanaPrime on August 08, 2018, 09:22:24 pm
According to Merriam Webster's dictionary it certainly is:

a : two or more slices of bread or a split roll having a filling in between
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Silver Pines on August 08, 2018, 10:58:18 pm
According to Merriam Webster's dictionary it certainly is:

a : two or more slices of bread or a split roll having a filling in between

@AmericanaPrime

Merriam needs to get it together. 
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: 240B on August 08, 2018, 11:06:45 pm
@AmericanaPrime

Merriam needs to get it together.

Why is a Philly Cheese Steak considered to be a sandwich but a hot dog is not? They are both meat in a bun.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Silver Pines on August 08, 2018, 11:13:39 pm
Why is a Philly Cheese Steak considered to be a sandwich but a hot dog is not? They are both meat in a bun.

@240B

I don't know about Philly cheese steaks, I never had one.  But in this house, and in every reasonable mind, a sandwich is made by putting a piece of bread horizontally on a plate, placing whatever you want for filling, and then topping with another slice of bread.  I never once heard anybody say, "Oh, so you're having hot dogs tonight?"  "That's right, we're having sandwiches."
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: 240B on August 08, 2018, 11:18:16 pm
@240B

I don't know about Philly cheese steaks, I never had one.  But in this house, and in every reasonable mind, a sandwich is made by putting a piece of bread horizontally on a plate, placing whatever you want for filling, and then topping with another slice of bread.  I never once heard anybody say, "Oh, so you're having hot dogs tonight?"  "That's right, we're having sandwiches."
@CatherineofArgon

True. I agree. For some inexplicable reason the lowly hot dog has secured a place in our minds as being its 'own thing'. I know what you mean. A hot dog can never be anything but a hot dog. Even though it is really just a type of sandwich.

If you take the wiener out of the bun and replace it with roast beef, then you have a roast beef sandwich. Strange but true. Must be a cultural thing. I don't know.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Sanguine on August 08, 2018, 11:21:25 pm
All hotdogs are sandwiches but not all sandwiches are hotdogs.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Silver Pines on August 08, 2018, 11:22:53 pm
@CatherineofArgon

True. I agree. For some inexplicable reason the lowly hot dog has secured a place in our minds as being its 'own thing'. I know what you mean. A hot dog can never be anything but a hot dog. Even though it is really just a type of sandwich.

If you take the wiener out of the bun and replace it with roast beef, then you have a roast beef sandwich. Strange but true. Must be a cultural thing. I don't know.

@240B

Does a Philly cheese steak have the same type of split bun?

Maybe it's because a hot dog wouldn't fit between two slices of bread?
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: 240B on August 09, 2018, 01:22:18 am
Does a Philly cheese steak have the same type of split bun?
Yes
Maybe it's because a hot dog wouldn't fit between two slices of bread?
If you cut a hot dog in half horizontally and then cut the halves in half vertically, you can lay the four pieces flat on a sandwich. It is like a baloney sandwich. At that point it is no longer a hotdog. It has become a hotdog sandwich.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Suppressed on August 09, 2018, 02:39:00 am
I don't know about Philly cheese steaks, I never had one.

*bouche*

@CatherineofAragon You really must!

And if you ever head up to Philly, please be sure to go to Geno's, not Pat's.  Just be sure to check with @Jazzhead or me before ordering, so you don't get thrown out of line!
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Frank Cannon on August 09, 2018, 02:42:29 am

I don't know about Philly cheese steaks, I never had one. 

What type of Communist are you?
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Wingnut on August 09, 2018, 02:51:06 am
@240B

I don't know about Philly cheese steaks, I never had one.

You ain't missing much.  It is a nasty sammitch the lower class embraced years ago.  It probably started as somebody's mom's left-over mystery meat back in the depression.  It tastes so bad they had to put it on a stale roll and smother it with onions and other shit.  When that didn't cut the horrid taste some nut decided to drown it in melted cheese. 
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Silver Pines on August 10, 2018, 12:36:41 am
*bouche*

@CatherineofAragon You really must!

And if you ever head up to Philly, please be sure to go to Geno's, not Pat's.  Just be sure to check with @Jazzhead or me before ordering, so you don't get thrown out of line!

@Suppressed

Lol, that's sweet.  But no melted cheese is gonna pass these lips.  *shudder*
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Silver Pines on August 10, 2018, 12:37:20 am
What type of Communist are you?

@Frank Cannon

A cheese-free one, praise heaven!
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Silver Pines on August 10, 2018, 12:38:23 am
You ain't missing much.  It is a nasty sammitch the lower class embraced years ago.  It probably started as somebody's mom's left-over mystery meat back in the depression.  It tastes so bad they had to put it on a stale roll and smother it with onions and other shit.  When that didn't cut the horrid taste some nut decided to drown it in melted cheese.

@The Ghost

See. that's just gross.  Why not just do the right thing and have a steak.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on August 10, 2018, 06:08:39 am
@The Ghost

See. that's just gross.  Why not just do the right thing and have a steak.

Chopping up the steak makes for more surface area.









TO COVER WITH CHEESE!

Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Jazzhead on August 10, 2018, 12:56:22 pm
*bouche*

@CatherineofAragon You really must!

And if you ever head up to Philly, please be sure to go to Geno's, not Pat's.  Just be sure to check with @Jazzhead or me before ordering, so you don't get thrown out of line!

Geno's is indeed better than Pat's;  the meat's sliced just a wee bit thicker.   And at either place, the steaks are fresh as a daisy because they churn 'em out, 24/7.  Literally.  It is a ritual of Philly nightlife to end the evening at four in the morning at the corner of 9th and 'Shunk,  where the two esteemed establishments face off like pugilists, neon ablaze.   

These days,  my favorite cheesesteak is the little beauty they serve up at Ready's in Ocean City, New Jersey.   Ready's is an old-style lunch counter;  one of my rituals is to take the Saturday Wall Street Journal,  sit at the counter at Ready's with a steak and the fluffiest crinkle-cut fries I've ever tasted, and pontificate about politics and the Phillies with whatever unfortunate is sitting next to me.   
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Silver Pines on August 10, 2018, 03:51:09 pm
Chopping up the steak makes for more surface area.









TO COVER WITH CHEESE!


@InHeavenThereIsNoBeer



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Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Suppressed on August 10, 2018, 08:13:21 pm
Geno's is indeed better than Pat's;  the meat's sliced just a wee bit thicker.   And at either place, the steaks are fresh as a daisy because they churn 'em out, 24/7.  Literally.  It is a ritual of Philly nightlife to end the evening at four in the morning at the corner of 9th and 'Shunk,  where the two esteemed establishments face off like pugilists, neon ablaze.

I've had some great late-night chats at that mess of an intersection,including with a radio talk-show host I recognized.   

Quote
These days,  my favorite cheesesteak is the little beauty they serve up at Ready's in Ocean City, New Jersey.   Ready's is an old-style lunch counter;  one of my rituals is to take the Saturday Wall Street Journal,  sit at the counter at Ready's with a steak and the fluffiest crinkle-cut fries I've ever tasted, and pontificate about politics and the Phillies with whatever unfortunate is sitting next to me.   

That sounds wonderful!
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Frank Cannon on August 10, 2018, 08:22:08 pm
I've had some great late-night chats at that mess of an intersection,including with a radio talk-show host I recognized.   


Knowing you it was probably Smerconish.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Suppressed on August 10, 2018, 09:32:25 pm
Knowing you it was probably Smerconish.

You're right in principle...I would talk with Smerconish again, though I didn't see him at Geno's.  I haven't talked with Smerconish in more than a decade, but if I did, I'd look him in the eye, thank him for his backing of those with the badge against murdering low-lifes, and tell him I don't listen to him at all, nor buy his books, since he veered to the left.
Title: Re: A Hot Dog Is Not A Sandwich
Post by: Gefn on August 17, 2018, 08:40:22 pm
Ask Joey Chestnut