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Title: Hackers demonstrate ability to break into any voting machine at Las Vegas convention
Post by: endicom on July 30, 2018, 01:53:31 pm
American Thinker
Thomas Lifson
July 30, 2018

The only way to ensure the integrity of our elections is a return to paper ballots, a "back to the future" scenario that somehow doesn't seem to excite many Democrats.  They would rather wail about "Russia hacking the election" to delegitimize President Trump, even though Rod Rosenstein recently assured us that not one vote was changed.

The fact that no electronic voting system can be reliably protected against hackers was once again demonstrated this weekend at "Defcon," a computer gathering in Las Vegas.

More... https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/07/hackers_demonstrate_ability_to_break_into_any_voting_machine_at_las_vegas_convention.html (https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/07/hackers_demonstrate_ability_to_break_into_any_voting_machine_at_las_vegas_convention.html)
Title: Re: Hackers demonstrate ability to break into any voting machine at Las Vegas convention
Post by: Restored on July 30, 2018, 01:58:06 pm
Why does a voting machine need access to the Internet?
Title: Re: Hackers demonstrate ability to break into any voting machine at Las Vegas convention
Post by: endicom on July 30, 2018, 02:04:11 pm
Why does a voting machine need access to the Internet?


Probably to report results. Maybe for troubleshooting.

IMO, an electronic voting system is begging for abuse.



Title: Re: Hackers demonstrate ability to break into any voting machine at Las Vegas convention
Post by: Fishrrman on July 31, 2018, 12:32:19 am
Here in my part of Connecticut (it may be a statewide system), the voter gets a sheet of paper (fairly good-sized) and marks the ballot with a felt-tip pen. After leaving "the booth", the voter slides the paper into a machine (about the size of a floor-sized copy machine) which records the marks and then keeps the paper ballot.

This is about as "computerized" a system as I want to see, insofar as voting is concerned.

I would like to see an additional feature:
Upon recording the ballot, the machine should issue a printed "receipt" that shows how the machine recorded the votes. The voter can examine the receipt to be sure that the "votes recorded" were identical to "the votes cast". (yes, I realize that even this might be rigged).
Title: Re: Hackers demonstrate ability to break into any voting machine at Las Vegas convention
Post by: endicom on July 31, 2018, 12:50:37 am
Here in my part of Connecticut (it may be a statewide system), the voter gets a sheet of paper (fairly good-sized) and marks the ballot with a felt-tip pen. After leaving "the booth", the voter slides the paper into a machine (about the size of a floor-sized copy machine) which records the marks and then keeps the paper ballot.

This is about as "computerized" a system as I want to see, insofar as voting is concerned.

I would like to see an additional feature:
Upon recording the ballot, the machine should issue a printed "receipt" that shows how the machine recorded the votes. The voter can examine the receipt to be sure that the "votes recorded" were identical to "the votes cast". (yes, I realize that even this might be rigged).


Looks like what we have here in New York. I vote but haven't much faith in the machines.

Title: Re: Hackers demonstrate ability to break into any voting machine at Las Vegas convention
Post by: roamer_1 on July 31, 2018, 12:54:19 am
Why does a voting machine need access to the Internet?

They don't... at least, not here. I believe this is a LAN-side hack. I said somethng about this exact possibility last year. I guess laying CAT5 is just too hard.
Title: Re: Hackers demonstrate ability to break into any voting machine at Las Vegas convention
Post by: endicom on July 31, 2018, 01:41:03 am
They don't... at least, not here. I believe this is a LAN-side hack. I said somethng about this exact possibility last year. I guess laying CAT5 is just too hard.


At least one hack used Wi-Fi so these machines vary in how they communicate.

 
Title: Re: Hackers demonstrate ability to break into any voting machine at Las Vegas convention
Post by: roamer_1 on July 31, 2018, 01:50:21 am

At least one hack used Wi-Fi so these machines vary in how they communicate.

Yeah. Here they wiffy to a local lan to a central box that does the tally. That's all, No internet.
But wifi is not real safe locally. this is not news.
Like I said, just get rid of Local wifi and go to a wired switch. No more air.
Title: Re: Hackers demonstrate ability to break into any voting machine at Las Vegas convention
Post by: Snarknado on July 31, 2018, 12:23:00 pm

Probably to report results. Maybe for troubleshooting.

IMO, an electronic voting system is begging for abuse.

Amen. At least with the old system you could only commit voter fraud one trunkful of ballots at a time...