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Title: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: corbe on June 25, 2020, 02:15:52 pm
She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden.

Edward-Isaac Dovere  20 mins ago



Republicans who say Donald Trump should lose in November but insist they won’t vote for Joe Biden aren’t being honest, Carly Fiorina argues.

Fiorina was a Republican candidate for president just four years ago, and was briefly Ted Cruz’s prospective running mate. Trump needs to go, she says — and that means she’s voting for Biden.

Fiorina is not going to keep quiet, write in another candidate, or vote third-party. “I’ve been very clear that I can’t support Donald Trump,” she told me, in an interview that can be heard in full on the latest episode of The Ticket. “And elections are binary choices.” She struggled with the decision, and whether to go public. But she said that this struggle is one Republicans need to have — including those who have rationalized supporting Trump despite their disagreements, because of some of his policies or judicial appointments.

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Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: dfwgator on June 25, 2020, 02:18:10 pm
Her GOP is dead,  good riddance.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: dfwgator on June 25, 2020, 02:18:54 pm
Trump is the flashlight that exposed all of these cockroaches.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: skeeter on June 25, 2020, 02:24:51 pm
...and don't come back.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 25, 2020, 02:27:52 pm
Her GOP is dead,  good riddance.

The new GOP is a mish mash of Conspiracy theorist Q anon and people so far up Donald's liberal rear they will never find their way out.  And you can say good riddance but I am fairly sure Carly embraced the Trump at first.  And she is a face in the Evangelical Church.  Expect to start seeing an exodus.

Oh, and Donald's party is the new Socialist party too.  McSally and her vacations on the state.  Evanka and her family pay...… Donald with his new round of stimulus...…….

Not law and order but chaos Trump.

Trump rallies are at least 70% Democrats and people who never cared to vote.  And you criticize Carly for voting for Biden?  I won't, but I am not voting for Donald Duck.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: skeeter on June 25, 2020, 02:36:56 pm
The new GOP is a mish mash of Conspiracy theorist Q anon and people so far up Donald's liberal rear they will never find their way out.  And you can say good riddance but I am fairly sure Carly embraced the Trump at first.  And she is a face in the Evangelical Church.  Expect to start seeing an exodus.

Oh, and Donald's party is the new Socialist party too.  McSally and her vacations on the state.  Evanka and her family pay...… Donald with his new round of stimulus...…….

Not law and order but chaos Trump.

Trump rallies are at least 70% Democrats and people who never cared to vote.  And you criticize Carly for voting for Biden?  I won't, but I am not voting for Donald Duck.

Carly is the face of the evangelical church. Hilarious.

I'll be waiting for that exodus with trepidation.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on June 25, 2020, 03:05:00 pm
She's a soulless corporate hack.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 25, 2020, 04:14:42 pm
Trump was correct about her.  Who can trust that face?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: EdinVA on June 25, 2020, 04:19:41 pm
She is just another bush, wanted the badge and the place in the history books but not do the work...
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: skeeter on June 25, 2020, 04:39:15 pm
She's a soulless corporate hack.

She's a soulless destroyer of corporations.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on June 25, 2020, 04:46:27 pm
She's a soulless destroyer of corporations.

Exactly. She not even a good soulless corporate hack.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: PeteS in CA on June 25, 2020, 04:54:24 pm
She's a soulless destroyer of corporations.

Specifically, she dismembered Hewlett-Packard. For those not familiar with Silicon Valley geography, the location of Apple's famous "spaceship" headquarters campus used to be multiple HP buildings. Building built in the 60s and 70s - as those were - are not very efficient or suitable for modern computer networking, but HP didn't rebuild. Apple bought, demolished, and rebuilt.

As for Fiorina's politics, she's a RINO slightly less obnoxious than Ahhhnold-the-RINO. In 2016 she was on my, "Oh dear Lord, please NO!!!" list. Trump wasn't at the top of my list, but he wasn't on my "Please no!" list.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 25, 2020, 05:11:13 pm
Specifically, she dismembered Hewlett-Packard. For those not familiar with Silicon Valley geography, the location of Apple's famous "spaceship" headquarters campus used to be multiple HP buildings. Building built in the 60s and 70s - as those were - are not very efficient or suitable for modern computer networking, but HP didn't rebuild. Apple bought, demolished, and rebuilt.

As for Fiorina's politics, she's a RINO slightly less obnoxious than Ahhhnold-the-RINO. In 2016 she was on my, "Oh dear Lord, please NO!!!" list. Trump wasn't at the top of my list, but he wasn't on my "Please no!" list.

Let us not forget Lucent Technologies....
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: libertybele on June 25, 2020, 05:23:19 pm
What the heck was Ted thinking when he selected her to be his VP???   Or -- is she just bitter because Trump pointed to her face?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 25, 2020, 05:30:17 pm
What the heck was Ted thinking when he selected her to be his VP???   Or -- is she just bitter because Trump pointed to her face?

It's the latter. :shrug:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Slide Rule on June 25, 2020, 07:26:31 pm
Ah. The former HP genius manager.

She is intelligent and stupid. I wonder
which country she would move to.

Carly is deficient in common sense.



Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: XenaLee on June 25, 2020, 08:14:38 pm
Just another Romney-like RINO..... showing their "true colors".... finally.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: dancer on June 26, 2020, 06:52:02 am
"The new GOP is a mish mash of Conspiracy theorist Q anon and people so far up Donald's liberal rear they will never find their way out."
 
*Someone has their nose so far up Deep State's butt they will never find their way out.

"And she is a face in the Evangelical Church.  Expect to start seeing an exodus."

*Carly the face of the Evangelical church? ROFLOL

"Oh, and Donald's party is the new Socialist party too.  McSally and her vacations on the state.  Evanka and her family pay...… Donald with his new round of stimulus...……."

* So now the Republican Party is Socialist?  No.  The old GOPe IS Socialist/Globalist.  They'd be the R's who want the NWO and the destruction of our precious USA. 
So, McSally's nonsense is now Trumps fault???

"Not law and order but chaos Trump."

* How do you come up with this stuff!

"Trump rallies are at least 70% Democrats and people who never cared to vote." 

* More nonsense.

"I won't, but I am not voting for Donald Duck."

*More of your disrespect.  Your hatred of Trump is so off base,  this has to be personal. There has to be something that you are afraid of.  What is it?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Sighlass on June 26, 2020, 07:39:22 am
I remember how disappointed I was when Ted picked her (but I had almost forgot to be honest). If nothing else, this thread reminds me of how flawed even Ted was. I need reminding ever so often (just as the Lord reminds me of my many flaws).

Anyone that picks Biden over just not voting for Trump was either hurt greatly (and holds a grudge) or not a conservative over their political game. There is no justifying voting for the godless party. None. IMHO.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: dancer on June 26, 2020, 08:02:23 am
What the heck was Ted thinking when he selected her to be his VP???   Or -- is she just bitter because Trump pointed to her face?
This is one of the reasons I don't trust Cruz.  Most of us saw through her facade before he chose her.  She came off of her yacht to attack POTUS just like the other #DeepStaters.  When will people realize that the #DeepState is composed of both sides?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 10:46:38 am
This is one of the reasons I don't trust Cruz. 

Don't trust Cruz?  What's next?   Are you going to start flinging that "Lyin' Ted" meme around while you are at it?  Why not call it like it really is....   He had an instance of a  "poor judgement", instead of your bogus "trust" issue.

Then contrast that against the present POTUS....   And let me know if you think  DJT hasn't made any poor choices, or lapses in judgement.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Bigun on June 26, 2020, 12:55:56 pm
So Fiorina is now an enemy of the state because she has announced she will be voting for Biden.  Frankly, I wish these pols and others would not announce their voting preferences and just do it.  I really don't care who they vote for; they don't influence my decision one way or the other. 

But she does have the right to vote for whoever she pleases.  I don't know why so many Trump supporters are in such an uproar about her decision.  I was told by a Trump supporter in 2016 that he didn't need my vote to win.  Well then I guess Trump doesn't need Fiorina's vote or mine this time either.   :shrug:

No! She is an enemy of the state because she is a statist busybody wannabe!
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: skeeter on June 26, 2020, 12:57:59 pm
So Fiorina is now an enemy of the state because she has announced she will be voting for Biden.  Frankly, I wish these pols and others would not announce their voting preferences and just do it.  I really don't care who they vote for; they don't influence my decision one way or the other. 

But she does have the right to vote for whoever she pleases.  I don't know why so many Trump supporters are in such an uproar about her decision.  I was told by a Trump supporter in 2016 that he didn't need my vote to win.  Well then I guess Trump doesn't need Fiorina's vote or mine this time either.   :shrug:

Who's in an 'uproar'? Self important prima donnas who feel like we all want to know how they intend to vote just rub me the wrong way.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 12:59:54 pm
So Fiorina is now an enemy of the state because she has announced she will be voting for Biden.  Frankly, I wish these pols and others would not announce their voting preferences and just do it.  I really don't care who they vote for; they don't influence my decision one way or the other. 

But she does have the right to vote for whoever she pleases.  I don't know why so many Trump supporters are in such an uproar about her decision.  I was told by a Trump supporter in 2016 that he didn't need my vote to win.  Well then I guess Trump doesn't need Fiorina's vote or mine this time either.   :shrug:

Or some who take Freepish type of swipes at Cruz, for what at the time was a decison made at political expedience and necessity.
All I can say, it is a good thing someone like Sam Nunn, or Scoop Jackson isn't running against Trump, I'd be making my first and only democratic vote.    Trump is a disaster we are stuck with. 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 01:03:02 pm
No! She is an enemy of the state because she is a statist busybody wannabe!

Yeah....., but Trump's demonization of anyone who says ANYTHING negative about him has gotten beyond tiresome.

The man is a living breathing 2 y.o. Temper Tantrum. 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: EdinVA on June 26, 2020, 01:03:58 pm
So Fiorina is now an enemy of the state because she has announced she will be voting for Biden.  Frankly, I wish these pols and others would not announce their voting preferences and just do it.  I really don't care who they vote for; they don't influence my decision one way or the other. 

But she does have the right to vote for whoever she pleases.  I don't know why so many Trump supporters are in such an uproar about her decision.  I was told by a Trump supporter in 2016 that he didn't need my vote to win.  Well then I guess Trump doesn't need Fiorina's vote or mine this time either.   :shrug:

Well, it could be that voting for biden is voting for socialism, Antifa and everything to destroy the country and she runs her mouth to encourage her "followers" to vote with her so it is not just carly's vote.

We are engaged in a battle for the survival of the republic, that is why I support Trump, not that I think he is perfect..
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2020, 01:11:15 pm
So Fiorina is now an enemy of the state because she has announced she will be voting for Biden.  Frankly, I wish these pols and others would not announce their voting preferences and just do it.  I really don't care who they vote for; they don't influence my decision one way or the other. 

But she does have the right to vote for whoever she pleases.  I don't know why so many Trump supporters are in such an uproar about her decision.  I was told by a Trump supporter in 2016 that he didn't need my vote to win.  Well then I guess Trump doesn't need Fiorina's vote or mine this time either.   :shrug:

Anyone voting for Biden and/or the Democrats is an enemy of America, IMHO.   Because at this point in our orchestrated-by-the-left demise.... that's exactly what it (voting Democrats into power) will equate to....

the end of and destruction of America AS FOUNDED.

We should thank these brainless fools for outting themselves and "self-identifying".
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2020, 01:15:59 pm
Yeah....., but Trump's demonization of anyone who says ANYTHING negative about him has gotten beyond tiresome.

The man is a living breathing 2 y.o. Temper Tantrum.

Yeah?   Well you try being under 24/7 scrutiny, falsely accused, endless investigations, verbal assaults & attacks, impeachment proceedings and having your family and even your youngest son bashed and attacked, etc. for going on five years now .....

and see how "maturely" you handle it.

Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: skeeter on June 26, 2020, 01:18:00 pm
Well, it could be that voting for biden is voting for socialism, Antifa and everything to destroy the country and she runs her mouth to encourage her "followers" to vote with her so it is not just carly's vote.

We are engaged in a battle for the survival of the republic, that is why I support Trump, not that I think he is perfect..

It is curious how anyone to the right Don Lemon of could look at what the left is bringing down on us today and still consider voting for Biden.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 01:20:57 pm
Yeah?   Well you try being under 24/7 scrutiny, falsely accused, endless investigations, verbal assaults & attacks, impeachment proceedings and having your family and even your youngest son bashed and attacked, etc. for going on five years now .....

and see how "maturely" you handle it.

See Ronald Reagan 1976-1988.  Then contrast the two.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2020, 01:25:03 pm
See Ronald Reagan 1976-1988.  Then contrast the two.

Oh puhleeeze.   Stop trying to re-write history.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: skeeter on June 26, 2020, 01:28:16 pm
See Ronald Reagan 1976-1988.  Then contrast the two.

I may not always agree with what Trump does or says. But I can think of no better example of cutting off one's nose to spite their face than to join the left & NTers in jumping on his back at every opportunity. I'll be damned if I'll do it.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 01:28:49 pm


We are engaged in a battle for the survival of the republic, that is why I support Trump, not that I think he is perfect..

No argument there, and that's why I am voting for Trump too.  OTOH, his bombastic style may have served him okay and was acceptable 2016-2019.  In 2020, with multiple crisis'.  We need some grownup leadership, and not frivilous non-productive insults thrown any anyone not kissing his ring.   

Did you listen to his 45 minute rambling about West Point in Tulsa last Saturday?  Totally pointless, and most of the rest of the speech was a unfocused mess.  Trump needs to step up to the plate right now, and show some leadership. 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 01:31:30 pm
I may not always agree with what Trump does or says. But I can think of no better example of cutting off one's nose to spite their face than to join the left & NTers in jumping on his back at every opportunity. I'll be damned if I'll do it.

It's not a nose/face cutting exercise when your horse in the race is failing miserably.  It's called constructive feedback and criticism.  Something Trump is apparently not receptive to.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2020, 01:33:30 pm
No argument there, and that's why I am voting for Trump too.  OTOH, his bombastic style may have served him okay and was acceptable 2016-2019.  In 2020, with multiple crisis'.  We need some grownup leadership, and not frivilous non-productive insults thrown any anyone not kissing his ring.   

Did you listen to his 45 minute rambling about West Point in Tulsa last Saturday?  Totally pointless, and most of the rest of the speech was a unfocused mess.  Trump needs to step up to the plate right now, and show some leadership.

I'm curious.   Please name someone who you think, realistically, could or would be doing a better job right now.   And by realistically, I mean taking into consideration all of the 'other' pressures and strains that Trump is under and has been under for the past almost four years of his first term.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 01:33:38 pm
Oh puhleeeze.   Stop trying to re-write history.

So you are claiming that the press and media was not relentless in their attacks on Reagan during that timeframe?  Wow, we must have lived in different realities. 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 26, 2020, 01:34:35 pm
Trump is the flashlight that exposed all of these cockroaches.

@dfwgator

YUP! Good riddance to treasonous trash.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 26, 2020, 01:37:08 pm
The new GOP is a mish mash of Conspiracy theorist Q anon and people so far up Donald's liberal rear they will never find their way out.  And you can say good riddance but I am fairly sure Carly embraced the Trump at first.  And she is a face in the Evangelical Church.  Expect to start seeing an exodus.

Oh, and Donald's party is the new Socialist party too.  McSally and her vacations on the state.  Evanka and her family pay...… Donald with his new round of stimulus...…….

Not law and order but chaos Trump.

Trump rallies are at least 70% Democrats and people who never cared to vote.  And you criticize Carly for voting for Biden?  I won't, but I am not voting for Donald Duck.

@Chosen Daughter

I am so tired of hearing your lies and slander that I would slap the piss out of you and face the arrest if you were to ever get within range.

Why don't you just take yourself back to the Huffington Post,where you belong?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: skeeter on June 26, 2020, 01:38:06 pm
It's not a nose/face cutting exercise when your horse in the race is failing miserably.  It's called constructive feedback and criticism.  Something Trump is apparently not receptive to.

There is no need for me to respond. You've made my point for me.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2020, 01:38:19 pm
So you are claiming that the press and media was not relentless in their attacks on Reagan during that timeframe?  Wow, we must have lived in different realities.

The left has given 'new meaning' to relentless attacks against Trump.   So yeah, it's a lot more focused, comprehensive (all of media plus the alphabet agencies) and organized... and quite literally... from the top (Obama/Soros) now vs. back then.  Also, I don't recall Reagan being impeached.   Could you link me to that?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: EdinVA on June 26, 2020, 01:39:12 pm
No argument there, and that's why I am voting for Trump too.  OTOH, his bombastic style may have served him okay and was acceptable 2016-2019.  In 2020, with multiple crisis'.  We need some grownup leadership, and not frivilous non-productive insults thrown any anyone not kissing his ring.   

Did you listen to his 45 minute rambling about West Point in Tulsa last Saturday?  Totally pointless, and most of the rest of the speech was a unfocused mess.  Trump needs to step up to the plate right now, and show some leadership.

I don't twitter, or bookface and I don't watch his rallies... He drives me crazy... lol  Maybe that is why his shortcomings don't bother me...
But that is true of most of what the media spreads... I will review stuff on youtube and skip over the BS and get to the beef....
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2020, 01:39:59 pm
It's not a nose/face cutting exercise when your horse in the race is failing miserably.  It's called constructive feedback and criticism.  Something Trump is apparently not receptive to.

And again.... who 'else' could have withstood the pressures and the endless attacks?   Got somebody in mind?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 01:53:26 pm
I'm curious.   Please name someone who you think, realistically, could or would be doing a better job right now.

That ship has passed and is irrelevant.  Our choice has already been made.  It is now up to him to up his game.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 01:56:23 pm
The left has given 'new meaning' to relentless attacks against Trump.   So yeah, it's a lot more focused, comprehensive (all of media plus the alphabet agencies) and organized... and quite literally... from the top (Obama/Soros) now vs. back then.  Also, I don't recall Reagan being impeached.   Could you link me to that?

Again, your memory must be bad.

You don't think Iran-Contra was not an attempt at impeachment?  And the all day hearings broadcast on all three major networks?  Hmmmmm....  Try again.

And btw...XL....I do enjoy your posts here.  I think we are just off on this matter on semantics.  I just expect more.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 01:57:59 pm
And again.... who 'else' could have withstood the pressures and the endless attacks?   Got somebody in mind?

Don't deflect with hypotheticals.  Trump is the nominee.  Unless you know something I don't.  :pondering:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: skeeter on June 26, 2020, 01:59:56 pm
Again, your memory must be bad.

You don't think Iran-Contra was not an attempt at impeachment?  And the all day hearings broadcast on all three major networks?  Hmmmmm....  Try again.
Reagan was allowed a first term.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: DCPatriot on June 26, 2020, 02:00:58 pm
ROFL!   Pres. Trump: "Will you just look at that face?"

That's what you get when you publicly mention anything about a woman's appearance/face.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 02:04:15 pm
ROFL!   Pres. Trump: "Will you just look at that face?"

That's what you get when you publicly mention anything about a woman's appearance/face.

I don't think the Donald can top calling a woman a Dog Faced Pony Soldier......    :silly:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: DCPatriot on June 26, 2020, 02:06:05 pm
@Chosen Daughter

I am so tired of hearing your lies and slander that I would slap the piss out of you and face the arrest if you were to ever get within range.

Why don't you just take yourself back to the Huffington Post,where you belong?

I second that emotion, @sneakypete !   :patriot:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2020, 02:17:51 pm
Again, your memory must be bad.

You don't think Iran-Contra was not an attempt at impeachment?  And the all day hearings broadcast on all three major networks?  Hmmmmm....  Try again.

And btw...XL....I do enjoy your posts here.  I think we are just off on this matter on semantics.  I just expect more.

My memory is indeed "bad"...or flawed (I've slept since then)...lol.   

Iran-Contra was just the ssdd commies (the enemy within) lashing out at Reagan for hampering their agenda.  My point is.... all of this ""resistance"" against anyone upholding our Constitution, our laws and our nation "as founded" has gotten... pardon the pun... progressively worse than it ever was in the past.   Crap like someone holding up a fake severed head of Reagan, dripping with blood, would never have been tolerated back then.  Half of the stuff that has been launched at Trump, including the attacks on Barron and the rest of Trump's family, would have never been tolerated back then.  It's worse now.   That's all I'm saying. 

Hey, I enjoy your posts here too, else I wouldn't bother.   We can agree to disagree on some issues but we're still on the same page, basically.    happy77
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: corbe on June 26, 2020, 02:19:21 pm
   I'm sure glad @Chosen Daughter has a thick skin because I, for one, would miss her if she left.  I wish you fellas would Lighten up.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 26, 2020, 02:20:05 pm
Just another Romney-like RINO..... showing their "true colors".... finally.

This is what Trump supported over 3 Republicans when he supported Jeff Vandrew:

"I'm strongly and unequivocally pro-choice: I support Roe v. Wade and a woman's right to choose. Any efforts to weaken or undermine that right will face my fierce opposition. Proudly, I have consistently voted in the New Jersey State Legislature to support critical women's healthcare funding that provides preventive health services, cancer screenings, and prenatal care for low-income women." (votesmart.org)

(votesmart.org)

Yes
 
Economy: Do you support federal spending as a means of promoting economic growth?
 
No
 
Economy: Do you support lowering corporate taxes as a means of promoting economic growth?

es
 
Energy and Environment: Do you support government funding for the development of renewable energy (e.g. solar, wind, geo-thermal)?
 
Yes
 
Energy and Environment: Do you support the federal regulation of greenhouse gas emissions?
 
Yes
 
Guns: Do you generally support gun-control legislation?
 
No
 
Health Care: Do you support repealing the 2010 Affordable Care Act ("Obamacare")?

Unknown Position
 
Immigration: Do you support the construction of a wall along the Mexican border?
 
No
 
Immigration: Do you support requiring immigrants who are unlawfully present to return to their country of origin before they are eligible for citizenship?

https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/political-courage-test/24685/jeff-van-drew/

Trump  is a fraud that is ruining this country.  He doesn't really have any solid position.  Any dog that comes licking his feet are welcome.

So don't act so infuriated that someone would vote for Biden.  He probably is less liberal than Vandrew.

Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 02:25:28 pm
   I'm sure glad @Chosen Daughter has a thick skin because I, for one, would miss her if she left.  I wish you fellas would Lighten up.

I like her too.  And I like varied opinions across the spectra of the right.  That's what make TBR a notch above TOS.   NO orange echo chamber here. 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 26, 2020, 02:30:29 pm
   I'm sure glad @Chosen Daughter has a thick skin because I, for one, would miss her if she left.  I wish you fellas would Lighten up.

Thank you Corbe  8888spinning cat
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 26, 2020, 02:33:33 pm
I like her too.  And I like varied opinions across the spectra of the right.  That's what make TBR a notch above TOS.   NO orange echo chamber here.

Thank you @catfish1957  ,  @corbe  I appreciate both of you also.  Its so nice to have people who think for themselves and don't post out of Trump approved message.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 26, 2020, 02:53:30 pm
Did you listen to his 45 minute rambling about West Point in Tulsa last Saturday?  Totally pointless, and most of the rest of the speech was a unfocused mess.   

I think the one who's unfocused here is you.   The President wasn't rambling ... nor was this part of the speech a diversion or pointless.  In those five minutes the President not only set the record straight ... he defused a bomb locked onto his campaign's questions about Biden's mental acuity.

That he did this through humor is one of the reasons Donald Trump will be studied in political science courses for a generation ... and politicians will be rehearsing his style with hairbrush in hand in front of full length mirror for years to come.   :laugh:

You miss some of the very best of the President ... and one of the secrets to his bond with his supporters ... when knee jerk reactions overtake you. 



Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 03:00:32 pm
I think the one who's unfocused here is you.   The President wasn't rambling ... nor was this part of the speech a diversion or pointless.  In those five minutes the President not only set the record straight ... he defused a bomb locked onto his campaign's questions about Biden's mental acuity.

That he did this through humor is one of the reasons Donald Trump will be studied in political science courses for a generation ... and politicians will be rehearsing his style with hairbrush in hand in front of full length mirror for years to come.   :laugh:

You miss some of the very best of the President ... and one of the secrets to his bond with his supporters ... when knee jerk reactions overtake you.

You are by far (minus legal american) the least objective person on this board.  I'll just leave it at that. 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 26, 2020, 03:00:58 pm
So Fiorina is now an enemy of the state because she has announced she will be voting for Biden.  Frankly, I wish these pols and others would not announce their voting preferences and just do it.  I really don't care who they vote for; they don't influence my decision one way or the other. 

But she does have the right to vote for whoever she pleases.  I don't know why so many Trump supporters are in such an uproar about her decision.  I was told by a Trump supporter in 2016 that he didn't need my vote to win.  Well then I guess Trump doesn't need Fiorina's vote or mine this time either.   :shrug:

I considered Fiorina an enemy of the state when she ran HP and Lucent into the ground.  A lot of good people were harmed by her incompetence.  That she would try to run for President with that record was pure comedy gold.  That she would go all out to take Trump down is the least surprising news of the week.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 03:03:25 pm
I considered Fiorina an enemy of the state when she ran HP and Lucent into the ground.  A lot of good people were harmed by her incompetence.  That she would try to run for President with that record was pure comedy gold.  That she would go all out to take Trump down is the least surprising news of the week.

I think she functioned as the sacrifical party moderate, and her alliance with Cruz, was not his best moment.  Good riddance.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 26, 2020, 03:04:29 pm
Thank you @catfish1957  ,  @corbe  I appreciate both of you also.  Its so nice to have people who think for themselves and don't post out of Trump approved message.

Did you know......

People who support Trump might have come to that conclusion because they thought for themselves?  Your knee-jerk hatred of Trump is legendary, to the point that the only thinking I can discern, is how to turn every Topic on TBR into a Hate Trump screed.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: skeeter on June 26, 2020, 03:07:47 pm
Did you know......

People who support Trump might have come to that conclusion because they thought for themselves?  Your knee-jerk hatred of Trump is legendary, to the point that the only thinking I can discern, is how to turn every Topic on TBR into a Hate Trump screed.
I suspect @Chosen Daughter would probably tie @LegalAmerican as the least objective posters on this board.

The difference being @LegalAmerican is more often correct.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Bigun on June 26, 2020, 03:07:49 pm
Did you know......

People who support Trump might have come to that conclusion because they thought for themselves?  Your knee-jerk hatred of Trump is legendary, to the point that the only thinking I can discern, is how to turn every Topic on TBR into a Hate Trump screed.

 :yowsa: pointing-up
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 26, 2020, 03:08:57 pm
I think she functioned as the sacrifical party moderate, and her alliance with Cruz, was not his best moment.  Good riddance.

She has a seriously overinflated self-perception of having influence on how others vote.  She announced she's voting for Biteme?  She's still pissed about Trump's comments about her face over four years ago.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 26, 2020, 03:10:16 pm
I suspect @Chosen Daughter would probably tie @LegalAmerican as the least objective posters on this board.

The difference being @LegalAmerican is more often correct.

LA doesn't hijack threads.  We certainly never had to ban her for it.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 03:23:47 pm


The difference being @LegalAmerican is more often correct.

Respecfully disagree.  Have you been called a leftist here by CD?  Just wondering.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 03:27:30 pm
LA doesn't hijack threads.  We certainly never had to ban her for it.

Maybe not hijack, but her spam was unbearable and annoying.  Plus calling people leftist who like myself are on the extreme right side of the political spectra?  Troll was too nice a description of her.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 03:28:02 pm

The difference being @LegalAmerican is more often correct.

No.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 26, 2020, 03:31:18 pm
Maybe not hijack, but her spam was unbearable and annoying.  Plus calling people leftist who like myself are on the extreme right side of the political spectra?  Troll was too nice a description of her.

Yeah, I didn't like that either.  The MAGA Pill stuff is hysterical for a while, but the pill ears off quickly.   :shrug:

Spamming is frowned upon, but hijacking threads is arguably worse, from a Mod's POV.  I've had to write bans for both kinds, BTW.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 26, 2020, 03:43:05 pm
You are by far ... the least objective person on this board.   

Your rebuttal is rather specious @catfish1957 

Objectivity. or the lack thereof, had nothing to do with my post to you.  I was attempting to explain what the President was doing during those five minutes at the rally.    POTUS had a strategy and he was executing it flawlessly.  Time will tell if it worked.

It mystifies me that you still do not understand how the man operates, especially his use of humor ---  but apparently you do not.   :shrug:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 03:57:15 pm
Your rebuttal is rather specious @catfish1957 

Objectivity. or the lack thereof, had nothing to do with my post to you.  I was attempting to explain what the President was doing during those five minutes at the rally.    POTUS had a strategy and he was executing it flawlessly.  Time will tell if it worked.

It mystifies me that you still do not understand how the man operates, especially his use of humor ---  but apparently you do not.   :shrug:

No...repsectfully, I have given comments here where POTUS has hit a Home Run, and I mean Reagansque type speeches and rallies.  And I have no problem saying he failed either.......   IMO...this one fell short, when he needed it most.

And btw, it wasn't 5 minutes.  Try about 15.  (22:50-  37:03). Though it seemed like 30.
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Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: skeeter on June 26, 2020, 03:59:48 pm
Respecfully disagree.  Have you been called a leftist here by CD?  Just wondering.

Actually, I have happy77

She is a very enthusiastic Trump supporter. And because I see Trump (warts and all) as a sort of firewall for the Republic, I'm more inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: aligncare on June 26, 2020, 04:04:28 pm
I remember how disappointed I was when Ted picked her (but I had almost forgot to be honest). If nothing else, this thread reminds me of how flawed even Ted was. I need reminding ever so often (just as the Lord reminds me of my many flaws).

Anyone that picks Biden over just not voting for Trump was either hurt greatly (and holds a grudge) or not a conservative over their political game. There is no justifying voting for the godless party. None. IMHO.

I keep a forum buddy list, but that clear thinking observation put you squarely on my Best Buddy List  :beer:

I believe whether you pray or not even a secular society needs a strong religious underpinning as the basis for its constitution. America has that freedom to worship or not, and protecting that freedom is important. Today’s democrats—the Left’s political vehicle—would strip that out of the constitution and BoRs.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 26, 2020, 04:06:12 pm
No...repsectfully, I have given comments here where POTUS has hit a Home Run, and I mean Reagansque type speeches and rallies.  And I have no problem saying he failed either.......   IMO...this one fell short, when he needed it most.

Oy vavoy.  This makes me so very happy I have other things to do.   :seeya:

 :laugh:  @catfish1957

Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 04:11:46 pm
Oy vavoy.  This makes me so very happy I have other things to do.   :seeya:

 :laugh:  @catfish1957

Best wishes to you too.    :cool:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: aligncare on June 26, 2020, 04:13:43 pm
Yeah?   Well you try being under 24/7 scrutiny, falsely accused, endless investigations, verbal assaults & attacks, impeachment proceedings and having your family and even your youngest son bashed and attacked, etc. for going on five years now .....

and see how "maturely" you handle it.

 :thumbsup:

It’s easy to criticize, isn’t it?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: aligncare on June 26, 2020, 04:18:41 pm
Reagan was allowed a first term.

Bingo! Reagan even got a honeymoon period that lasted much longer that Trump’s two seconds after the oath on Inauguration Day. Imagine that!
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 04:21:11 pm
Bingo! Reagan even got a honeymoon period that lasted much longer that Trump’s two seconds after the oath on Inauguration Day. Imagine that!

That's fair, really, but a flawed comparison. Dems were far less activist back then...
A better comparison is found in Dubya, who similarly, got very little 'honeymoon'.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: aligncare on June 26, 2020, 04:30:39 pm
That's fair, really, but a flawed comparison. Dems were far less activist back then...
A better comparison is found in Dubya, who similarly, got very little 'honeymoon'.

No one here would argue against that. W was certainly in the same ballpark as Trump. But by comparison W was in the bleachers while Trump is on the field with nothing but wild pitches thrown directly at his head, the moment after the ump shouted “play ball.”
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 26, 2020, 04:31:28 pm
That's fair, really, but a flawed comparison. Dems were far less activist back then...
A better comparison is found in Dubya, who similarly, got very little 'honeymoon'.

And whose fault is that? 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: dfwgator on June 26, 2020, 04:36:48 pm
Reagan was allowed a first term.

Well, outside of John Hinckley Jr.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 04:43:39 pm
No one here would argue against that. W was certainly in the same ballpark as Trump. But by comparison W was in the bleachers while Trump is on the field with nothing but wild pitches thrown directly at his head, the moment after the ump shouted “play ball.”

I don't think that's right at all - Bush's administration was plagued right from the beginning - accused of a fraudulent election... Counting chads right from the get-go, from the very minute he was elected... and it never let up. Everything thrown at Tumpy was thrown at Dubya, same for same.

I just think memories are not as visceral as the present in most things, this notwithstanding. It could be fair to say they may have jacked it up a notch, I suppose, following some gradient from Reagan to here... Or even Nixon to here... But pretty much SOSDD.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 04:44:47 pm
And whose fault is that?

Certainly not mine...  :shrug:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: corbe on June 26, 2020, 04:45:49 pm
(http://cdn.radioiowa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/CarlyFiorinaSF1.jpg)

                             I'd hit it.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: aligncare on June 26, 2020, 04:54:30 pm
(http://cdn.radioiowa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/CarlyFiorinaSF1.jpg)

                             I'd hit it.

You gotta stop thinking with your glands, man. And, dude...where are your standards?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: corbe on June 26, 2020, 04:59:26 pm
Anti-Trump Republicans can't save the GOP by voting for Biden

by Kimberly Ross  | June 26, 2020 12:18 PM


In 2016, Carly Fiorina faced off against Donald Trump as one of the Republican presidential candidates looking to take back the White House. As the only female in a crowded field, she stood out not only for her gender but for her ability to maintain her own against an unprecedented political foe. Anyone who followed the 2016 election cycle will remember that Trump mocked Fiorina's appearance. When the next debate came he apologized on camera to an unenthused Carly Fiorina. In the end, Fiorina voted for Donald Trump, despite any personal issues she may have had with him.

But times have changed.

During an interview this week with the Atlantic, Fiorina expressed her willingness to vote for Joe Biden in November. She described the Election Day decision as a "binary choice," one in which she cannot and will not support the Republican on the ballot. As a disgruntled former candidate who has been publicly shamed by Trump, Fiorina's choice seems to make sense at first glance. But as a pro-life Republican, it does not.

In the interview, when asked about Biden's stance as an abortion supporter and how it conflicted with her views, Fiorina stated, "We’re not making progress. And so let’s focus on making progress where people agree and actually solving a problem of abortion after five months." When reminded that Biden has supported more access to abortion she replied, "I think this is a great example of an opportunity to lead rather than just playing politics. He could do that. He could lead. He could problem-solve. He could find common ground on a bipartisan basis."

<..snip..>

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/anti-trump-republicans-cant-save-the-gop-by-voting-for-joe-biden (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/anti-trump-republicans-cant-save-the-gop-by-voting-for-joe-biden)
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: corbe on June 26, 2020, 05:01:00 pm
You gotta stop thinking with your glands, man. And, dude...where are your standards?


   If it wasn't for LOW standards, I'd have no standards at all @aligncare   :beer:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: aligncare on June 26, 2020, 05:09:16 pm

   If it wasn't for LOW standards, I'd have no standards at all @aligncare   :beer:

The eyes are the windows to the soul. Those beady eyes of hers look like they only go down to the parking lot.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 05:17:22 pm
(http://cdn.radioiowa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/CarlyFiorinaSF1.jpg)

                             I'd hit it.

Corbe....  Laz of Brieferville.  :cool:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: DCPatriot on June 26, 2020, 05:22:16 pm
   I'm sure glad @Chosen Daughter has a thick skin because I, for one, would miss her if she left.  I wish you fellas would Lighten up.

And I wish you'd STFU and stop auditioning for @mystery-ak
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 05:28:29 pm
And I wish you'd STFU and stop auditioning for @mystery-ak

He's right.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 26, 2020, 05:39:07 pm
Certainly not mine...  :shrug:

Nor mine.  I am registered to the wrong Party for that. :shrug:

 :beer:  (A new wonder I learned upon getting retired:  "day drinking."  :laugh: )
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: corbe on June 26, 2020, 05:50:23 pm
And I wish you'd STFU and stop auditioning for @mystery-ak

   OK, for that remark @DCPatriot I'm gonna vote for biteme also, screw your Orange Revolution.   

/s
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 05:52:31 pm
Nor mine.  I am registered to the wrong Party for that. :shrug:

 :beer:  (A new wonder I learned upon getting retired:  "day drinking."  :laugh: )

LOL!... Knew about that all the way along... Usually starts with the hair of the dog... And the next thing you know, it's next Tuesday...  :whistle:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: PeteS in CA on June 26, 2020, 06:09:43 pm
... And she is a face in the Evangelical Church. ...

@Chosen Daughter, ?? I've been in Silicon Valley Evangelical circles since the Carter Administration. I never heard Carly Fiorina's name mentioned during the time when she was leading HP and living in Los Altos Hills. Looking into it some, I see she was raised Episcopalian, which, sadly, is in no sense Evangelical. She herself has said that she is not a regular church goer. So I'm not sure where you get that Carly Fiorina "is a face in the Evangelical Church".
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: PeteS in CA on June 26, 2020, 06:13:50 pm
So Fiorina is now an enemy of the state because she has announced she will be voting for Biden.  ... 

But she does have the right to vote for whoever she pleases. ...

@Applewood,

Someone said Fiorina "is now an enemy of the state because she has announced she will be voting for Biden"? Who?

Someone questioned Fiorina's "right to vote for whoever she pleases"? Who?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: mountaineer on June 26, 2020, 07:01:48 pm
Your Betters For Biden
Kurt Schlichter
Posted: Jun 26, 2020 8:48 AM
Quote
We’re going to see a nearly endless line of nominally Republican Establishment hacks you had long forgotten about announcing that they are voting for Grandpa Badfinger this fall, and the idea is that this will freak out us squares and make us all rethink our support for Donald Trump. What it should do is make us all rethink how we ever got to the point where we once supported the gooey likes of Carly Fiorina and the rest of the dilettantes and cruise ship cons in the first place.

No, we don’t play that anymore. We got woke, the kind of woke you get putting your hand on a hot stove – that image kind of sums up how we actual conservatives feel after decades of supporting losers whose astonishing record of failure is equaled in magnitude by their astonishing self-regard. The best and brightest are neither.

Once upon a time, when I believed in the fairy tale that is Conservative, Inc., I supported Carly Fiorina. She was running in California and was not a Democrat, and I would have supported a talking chancre sore over a California Democrat.   ...

But people like Fiorina, Joe Biden’s newest, bestest buddy, never cared about conservatism or us conservatives. Her loyalty was ever to her class, not to us. If you wanted to get her attention, you would tell her she was risking dirty looks at the country club and she’d bend to the Establishment’s will like Gumby in a vise. But when millions of Americans cried out at their ruination via outsourcing, well, remember that as a corporate bigwig she gave Bain Boy a run for his money in sending our jobs overseas to our enemies, and got even richer doing it.

Now, these are the people we are supposed to see glom onto Biden and think, “Gee, if these serious, accomplished individuals are siding with that gibbering old pervert, perhaps I should likewise pledge my allegiance to that basement-lurking dementite.”  ...
https://townhall.com/columnists//kurtschlichter/2020/06/26/your-betters-for-biden-n2571391
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: PeteS in CA on June 26, 2020, 07:47:17 pm
Quote
But people like Fiorina, Joe Biden’s newest, bestest buddy, never cared about conservatism or us conservatives. Her loyalty was ever to her class, not to us. If you wanted to get her attention, you would tell her she was risking dirty looks at the country club and she’d bend to the Establishment’s will like Gumby in a vise. But when millions of Americans cried out at their ruination via outsourcing, well, remember that as a corporate bigwig she gave Bain Boy a run for his money in sending our jobs overseas to our enemies, and got even richer doing it.

1. Re "outsourcing", that began in the world of tech in the 1970s, if not the 1960s (I'm speaking from what I saw on ICs in the late 1970s, not not pulling factoids out of my rectum). I don't know whether Schlichter is less than well informed or being disingenuous, but if HP (and Dell, and Apple, and etc.) didn't outsource their manufacturing in the 80s and 90s, those companies would have an adjective in common, bankrupt. If Schlichter knows what these companies should have done instead that kept them in business, well, Schlicter could be an instant billionaire by marketing that strategy!

2. More to the point of this thread, before her failed 2016 Presidential run, Fiorina ran for the Senate against Babs Bouncer. CA's R Party has two wings, conservative and Mo-o-o-o-o-o-o-oderate. When a Mo-o-o-o-o-o-o-oderate candidate gets the nomination for an office, they spend a significant part of their campaign talking about how they aren't one of those conservative neanderthals. When a conservative gets the nomination for an office, the Mo-o-o-o-o-o-o-oderates pick up their $$ and go pout in a corner. To Fiorina, I'm a neanderthal of the worst sort, a Pro-Life conservative. So Schlichter is correct, +/-10%, about how Fiorina views conservatives - Fungus Amongus.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: DCPatriot on June 26, 2020, 08:19:09 pm
   OK, for that remark @DCPatriot I'm gonna vote for biteme also, screw your Orange Revolution.   

/s

 :laugh:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: DCPatriot on June 26, 2020, 08:23:18 pm
He's right.

@roamer_1

You whiny snot!

A couple of your posts were taken down. You posted an opus.

You ain't the person to discuss "thick skin".   :nono:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Axeslinger on June 26, 2020, 08:32:24 pm
@roamer_1

You whiny snot!

A couple of your posts were taken down. You posted an opus.

You ain't the person to discuss "thick skin".   :nono:

And I wish you'd STFU and stop auditioning for @mystery-ak

Ah, @DCPatriot ...ever the fella to bring his very best to TBR.  I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.  You are a pox.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: DCPatriot on June 26, 2020, 08:37:32 pm
Ah, @DCPatriot ...ever the fella to bring his very best to TBR.  I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.  You are a pox.


So... are you too stupid to see the irony of your post?   BTW...that's rhetorical. 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 08:38:10 pm
@roamer_1

You whiny snot!

A couple of your posts were taken down. You posted an opus.

You ain't the person to discuss "thick skin".   :nono:

Yeah, the only reason I came back was because of popular demand. Many, many more than I would have ever thought possible - And many many more than you know.

So go throw poo somewhere else, @DCPatriot
I know it's all you've got, but it don't work on me no more.

And if my posts were taken down, it was not by me.

If my choice is to stand with Chosen or stand with you, you can bet money I will back @Chosen Daughter  every time.

Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Axeslinger on June 26, 2020, 08:41:36 pm

So... are you too stupid to see the irony of your post?   BTW...that's rhetorical.
Nope.   I advocate for two things here:  intellectual honesty (you frequently, though not always, fail miserably).   And when someone is a rude asshat, I give it right back.  Think back...pretty much every time you and I have gone round and round, is after you act like a jackass to someone here.

For some reason you think your sh!t doesn’t stink, you’d be wrong.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: DCPatriot on June 26, 2020, 08:42:20 pm
Yeah, the only reason I came back was because of popular demand. Many, many more than I would have ever thought possible - And many many more than you know.

So go throw poo somewhere else, @DCPatriot
I know it's all you've got, but it don't work on me no more.

And if my posts were taken down, it was not by me.

If my choice is to stand with Chosen or stand with you, you can bet money I will back @Chosen Daughter  every time.

@roamer_1

WTF cares how many members supported your return?

Don't change the subject like some Antifa moron. 

You wrote an opus because somebody took down a few of your posts on one thread.   

That makes you a whiny little b*tch.    :whistle:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 26, 2020, 08:42:27 pm
AHEM!   :im waiting:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 08:44:49 pm
@roamer_1

WTF cares how many members supported your return?

Don't change the subject like some Antifa moron. 

You wrote an opus because somebody took down a few of your posts on one thread.   

That makes you a whiny little b*tch.    :whistle:

@DCPatriot

Nobody took down my posts. Care to try again?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: DCPatriot on June 26, 2020, 08:44:52 pm
AHEM!   :im waiting:

It's cool, @Cyber Liberty

@corbe responded to my post directed to him with no foul.

Find somebody else to slap.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: DCPatriot on June 26, 2020, 08:47:19 pm
@DCPatriot

Nobody took down my posts. Care to try again?

Don't f**k with me.  You're in over your head here.

I was on that thread.

The thread/cat MOD took down a lot of posts because he wanted to keep the thread "neat".



Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 08:48:36 pm
Don't f**k with me.  You're in over your head here.

I was on that thread.

The thread/cat MOD took down a lot of posts because he wanted to keep the thread "neat".

@DCPatriot
None of them mine. At least none that I know of. I was merely lurking. So try again.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: corbe on June 26, 2020, 08:48:38 pm
(https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Screen-Shot-2019-05-14-at-9.41.27-AM-1200x801.jpg)


   Can we please start talking about me again?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: berdie on June 26, 2020, 08:49:02 pm
AHEM!   :im waiting:


Thank you @Cyber Liberty .

You know what I love about this board? Well, lots...but when folks start talking about pie. :laugh:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: DCPatriot on June 26, 2020, 08:49:20 pm
(https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Screen-Shot-2019-05-14-at-9.41.27-AM-1200x801.jpg)


   Can we please start talking about me again?

 :beer:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 08:50:33 pm
(https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Screen-Shot-2019-05-14-at-9.41.27-AM-1200x801.jpg)


   Can we please start talking about me again?

Now see? Now that she ain't dressed like a redneck gal with ginger hair... Nothing.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: libertybele on June 26, 2020, 08:53:01 pm
Hard to believe that Carly deserves this much attention.  Really?   :shrug:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2020, 08:56:41 pm

Thank you @Cyber Liberty .

You know what I love about this board? Well, lots...but when folks start talking about pie. :laugh:

I like the excitement.   And I like trains.   Not as fattening as pie.    :smokin:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/gVohjqBixhUvm/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: corbe on June 26, 2020, 08:57:43 pm
   Cruz could have had Pence for his VP nomination, except Trump showed up first with the briefcase of $$$$.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: berdie on June 26, 2020, 08:58:57 pm
I like the excitement.   And I like trains.   Not as fattening as pie.    :smokin:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/gVohjqBixhUvm/giphy.gif)



 :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

Yeah...I'm kind of partial to fireworks. And chocolate chip cookies.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 08:59:11 pm
I like the excitement.   And I like trains.   Not as fattening as pie.    :smokin:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/gVohjqBixhUvm/giphy.gif)

Hey. Don't be messin with the pie now...  **nononono*
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2020, 09:00:31 pm
   Cruz could have had Pence for his VP nomination, except Trump showed up first with the briefcase of $$$$.

I like Cruz... but there's no way that he could have stood up to the four years of raging Hell the left has put Trump through.  He's a good debater, but I don't see him as a fighter.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 09:03:08 pm
I like Cruz... but there's no way that he could have stood up to the four years of raging Hell the left has put Trump through.  He's a good debater, but I don't see him as a fighter.

Funny that... when he stood alone against the Gang of Eight Amnesty, and stood alone and called Turtle a liar. The hell he ain't a fighter. Till lately.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: corbe on June 26, 2020, 09:06:33 pm
I like Cruz... but there's no way that he could have stood up to the four years of raging Hell the left has put Trump through.  He's a good debater, but I don't see him as a fighter.


    I think he would have been up to the challenge @XenaLee Ya gotta know that he wouldn't have stepped on his d*ck as many times, unforced errors, expending great political capital. 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2020, 09:08:22 pm

    I think he would have been up to the challenge @XenaLee Ya gotta know that he wouldn't have stepped on his d*ck as many times, unforced errors, expending great political capital.

No way of knowing.  He does seem to be MIA lately.   Haven't heard much from him for some reason.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2020, 09:09:09 pm
Hey. Don't be messin with the pie now...  **nononono*

I won't.  You can have it all.  I'm on a diet!    :tongue2:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 26, 2020, 09:10:05 pm
Don't f**k with me.  You're in over your head here.

I was on that thread.

The thread/cat MOD took down a lot of posts because he wanted to keep the thread "neat".

I don't think that was me.  If it was, I musta been "drunk modding."   888mouth


Thank you @Cyber Liberty .

You know what I love about this board? Well, lots...but when folks start talking about pie. :laugh:


It's been a while since I "pied" a thread.....
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 26, 2020, 09:12:45 pm
I like her too.  And I like varied opinions across the spectra of the right.  That's what make TBR a notch above TOS.   NO orange echo chamber here.

@catfish1957   @corbe

You guys REALLY think she is a conservative that just doesn't like Trump because he isn't "pure enough"?

Wanna buy some farm land in NYC?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 09:12:56 pm
I won't.  You can have it all.  I'm on a diet!    :tongue2:

Works for me. I WILL be figuring out a Mississippi Mud Pie for myself this summer... Then I can have it whenever I like... Which is all the time.  :beer:

But for now, I am fixin to throw a Dutch Apple in the oven... Got to go to the store first, because it will take me longer there thn the pie can handle in the oven... but it's coming for tonight... Chili, cornbread, and fresh apple pie for dessert. Because 'Murica.  :beer:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 26, 2020, 09:15:54 pm
You are by far (minus legal american) the least objective person on this board.  I'll just leave it at that.

@catfish1957

"Objective"?????

How the bleep in a professional leftist agitator even the tiniest bit "objective"?

She is here to try to reduce the chances of Trump being elected so the Dims can take over the country and abolish freedom.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 26, 2020, 09:17:23 pm
I think she functioned as the sacrifical party moderate, and her alliance with Cruz, was not his best moment. Good riddance.

@catfish1957

That is one way of putting it.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2020, 09:17:55 pm
Works for me. I WILL be figuring out a Mississippi Mud Pie for myself this summer... Then I can have it whenever I like... Which is all the time.  :beer:

But for now, I am fixin to throw a Dutch Apple in the oven... Got to go to the store first, because it will take me longer there thn the pie can handle in the oven... but it's coming for tonight... Chili, cornbread, and fresh apple pie for dessert. Because 'Murica.  :beer:

Well..... I don't often eat pie... but when I do... I have Edwards Key Lime Pie right out of the freezer in summer.  Cool, refreshing... aw dammit.   Now I'm craving Key Lime Pie.   Thanks a lot, roamer!!!    9999hair out0000
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 09:18:27 pm
I don't think that was me.  If it was, I musta been "drunk modding."   888mouth

He's being butthurt about the TomSea debacle... And thinks my outburst and walking off at the time was merely because I had posts removed - which is false. He doesn't know what went on, and assumes things that ain't true...

@Cyber Liberty
@DCPatriot
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 09:23:06 pm
Well..... I don't often eat pie... but when I do... I have Edwards Key Lime Pie right out of the freezer in summer.  Cool, refreshing... aw dammit.   Now I'm craving Key Lime Pie.   Thanks a lot, roamer!!!    9999hair out0000

GAK. Key Lime is only considered pie for the purpose of continuity... in the same 'called pie' category as Lemon Meringue. S'alright though.... you have at it. More real pie for me.

But in frozen pie... right out of the freezer, Mary Calendar chocolate or banana cream.,, Oh yeah. That's the stuff.

 :beer:

Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 26, 2020, 09:23:51 pm
That's fair, really, but a flawed comparison. Dems were far less activist back then...
A better comparison is found in Dubya, who similarly, got very little 'honeymoon'.

@roamer_1

He didn't need a honeymoon. It was his mother giving him his marching orders,and she was a freaking her entire evil,globalist life.

Dumbya was nothing more than a drunken homo front man.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 09:24:25 pm
@catfish1957

"Objective"?????

How the bleep in a professional leftist agitator even the tiniest bit "objective"?

She is here to try to reduce the chances of Trump being elected so the Dims can take over the country and abolish freedom.

Awwww. Pete.  Outside her hatred of Trump her views seem of sound and solid of conservative value. 

Then you have Legal American calling people like me  leftist, while spamming Trump speak. A leftist?  Me?  And now who do I think is more objective?  I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one. 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2020, 09:24:32 pm
He's being butthurt about the TomSea debacle... And thinks my outburst and walking off at the time was merely because I had posts removed - which is false. He doesn't know what went on, and assumes things that ain't true...

@Cyber Liberty
@DCPatriot

TomSea had a debacle?   You walked off?  I miss all the good stuff, dammit!    8888crybaby
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 26, 2020, 09:25:31 pm
And whose fault is that?

@Cyber Liberty

Clearly Trump's. He could have been an alcoholic homosexual too,instead of a teetotaler heterosexual.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 09:26:06 pm
TomSea had a debacle?   You walked off?  I miss all the good stuff, dammit!    8888crybaby

Yeah... months ago.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2020, 09:26:15 pm
GAK. Key Lime is only considered pie for the purpose of continuity... in the same 'called pie' category as Lemon Meringue. S'alright though.... you have at it. More real pie for me.

But in frozen pie... right out of the freezer, Mary Calendar chocolate or banana cream.,, Oh yeah. That's the stuff.

 :beer:

That stuff is a bit "heavy" for me in summer .... it's hot as literal Hell here now.   Those are pies best served in winter.... when it's cold and you need comfort food (but that's just me).
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2020, 09:27:09 pm
Yeah... months ago.

Oh.   Well why are we still talking about it?    :whistle:  :shrug:  333cleo
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 26, 2020, 09:27:11 pm
(http://cdn.radioiowa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/CarlyFiorinaSF1.jpg)

                             I'd hit it.

@corbe

Define "hit".

I'd love to divorce it.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: DCPatriot on June 26, 2020, 09:27:52 pm
He's being butthurt about the TomSea debacle... And thinks my outburst and walking off at the time was merely because I had posts removed - which is false. He doesn't know what went on, and assumes things that ain't true...

@Cyber Liberty
@DCPatriot

Ain't "butthurt" about anything, because I'm completely out of bleeps to give.

Just pointing out that @roamer_1 's defense of @Chosen Daughter ...the 'REAL' forum agitator, was out-of-place for him to talk about "thick skin" around there.

Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 26, 2020, 09:27:52 pm
He's being butthurt about the TomSea debacle... And thinks my outburst and walking off at the time was merely because I had posts removed - which is false. He doesn't know what went on, and assumes things that ain't true...

@Cyber Liberty
@DCPatriot

An incident that's impossible for me to wipe from my memory banks.  I didn't pull any posts, because the train wreck was in the very late/early hours.  Since I live in the far west, it was over before the sun rose on Castillo del Cyber.  Tom kept slandering TBR (Nancy and some Members not named Roamer) on the Twit for a couple of weeks after that.  Nancy had some of his Twits pulled. 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: corbe on June 26, 2020, 09:29:23 pm
    Odds are he's still butthurt out there on the interwebs, somewhere.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 09:31:35 pm
TomSea had a debacle?   You walked off?  I miss all the good stuff, dammit!    8888crybaby


IMO Mr. Sea took too partisan a view in a moderator role.  Too partisan to the point of editing and deleting posts of the side of the argument he was against.  Tom if you are lurking, no hard feelings, but that's was the rub of it.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 09:32:11 pm
That stuff is a bit "heavy" for me in summer .... it's hot as literal Hell here now.   Those are pies best served in winter.... when it's cold and you need comfort food (but that's just me).

S'alright sommore. Strawberry rhubarb is just coming on here, FWIW, and soon there is watermelon, when all else ceases to exist.

And it is a pleasant 84 here... which will remain through around the end of july... Too bad you spent that bus money I sent you on coolers. Jussayin  :whistle:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 09:33:32 pm
    Odds are he's still butthurt out there on the interwebs, somewhere.

Honestly, I had about forgot about him.....
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 09:34:11 pm
Oh.   Well why are we still talking about it?    :whistle:  :shrug:  333cleo

BTHOOM. (Beats the hell outta me)  :shrug:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 26, 2020, 09:36:05 pm

Nope.   I advocate for two things here:  intellectual honesty

I think almost all of us try to be as intellectually honest as possible.

Almost. This does not include a certain alleged female poster who could be a half-dozen or more Huff and Puff posters playing "pretend".

 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 09:37:17 pm
Ain't "butthurt" about anything, because I'm completely out of bleeps to give.

Just pointing out that @roamer_1 's defense of @Chosen Daughter ...the 'REAL' forum agitator, was out-of-place for him to talk about "thick skin" around there.

@DCPatriot

... And you're talking out your butt. Sommore. Your assumptions have lead you astray. Again.  :laugh:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 26, 2020, 09:38:32 pm
(https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Screen-Shot-2019-05-14-at-9.41.27-AM-1200x801.jpg)


   Can we please start talking about me again?

@corbe

YIKES! You could at least warn people before posting crap like that so they can at least have time to put on welding goggles.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: corbe on June 26, 2020, 09:38:40 pm
   I was under the impression Tom wanted to carve out his own little 'World' by Modding on TBR and we all know @mystery-ak won't tolerate any CHAZ/CHOP $hit here.   :doglick:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 09:39:53 pm
I didn't pull any posts, because the train wreck was in the very late/early hours.

He thinks Tom pulled some of my posts. But that ain't it at all. I had not posted on that thread for some pages...
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 26, 2020, 09:41:10 pm
I like Cruz... but there's no way that he could have stood up to the four years of raging Hell the left has put Trump through.  He's a good debater, but I don't see him as a fighter.

@XenaLee

I honestly think he may be one of the smartest candidates to ever run for the Presidency,but there is something I can't quite put my finger on that is a little "off" about him,and I just can't trust him.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 09:45:40 pm
Since I live in the far west, it was over before the sun rose on Castillo del Cyber.  Tom kept slandering TBR (Nancy and some Members not named Roamer) on the Twit for a couple of weeks after that.  Nancy had some of his Twits pulled.

Yeah... He blowed up real good.  :shrug: :whistle:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Axeslinger on June 26, 2020, 09:49:07 pm
@XenaLee

I honestly think he may be one of the smartest candidates to ever run for the Presidency,but there is something I can't quite put my finger on that is a little "off" about him,and I just can't trust him.
@sneakypete
I agree with you about everything except the trust part.  I think he earned the trust (as much as any politician can) during the filibuster, calling turtle a liar to his face and in the way he handled Trumps attacks during the campaign.  (Before you orange kool-aid drinkers get your knickers in a twist, I wasn’t wound up about trumps attacks because: politics)

 I was/am a big Cruz supporter...I wish we had 50 more like him. But there is something about his style that just doesn’t...play well.  Oddly, I think the beard he’s been sporting for a while helps.

Also, re your veiled comments about CD and intellectual honesty.  I agree and have called her out for it.  But if you have blinders on about a few on the other side of the debate (LA and a few other of the faithful trump brigade), you should take them off.   Plenty of fodder to go around.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 09:53:52 pm
@XenaLee

I honestly think he may be one of the smartest candidates to ever run for the Presidency,but there is something I can't quite put my finger on that is a little "off" about him,and I just can't trust him.

@sneakypete

I actually met him at a campaign event in his first senatorial primary.  Genuinely a really nice guy, and a rock solid conservative.  A lot of his negative press is generated by his early actions of going all in with the 'Mr. Smith Goes to Washington". principles, and not playing nice with Turtle and his agenda.  Then add the nastiness of the 2016 primaries, and you have  man that IMO has been demonized way more than he deserved.  In his defense now...  Cruz has supported the POTUS agenda as much, if not more than any other Senator.

In retrospect, If there truly is a knock on Cruz, it was his naivity of thinking he could change the world in one term, and that his own party would't sell out at a dimes drop.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: EdinVA on June 26, 2020, 10:00:27 pm
@XenaLee

I honestly think he may be one of the smartest candidates to ever run for the Presidency,but there is something I can't quite put my finger on that is a little "off" about him,and I just can't trust him.

@sneakypete
IMHO, Cruz wants to be a college professor and lecture instead of fighting... He is absolutely knows the law but...
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 26, 2020, 10:22:03 pm
@sneakypete

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I actually met him at a campaign event in his first senatorial primary.  Genuinely a really nice guy,


I have no doubt about him giving the appearance of being a really nice guy,and I have no doubt he would charm the hell out of me in person if I ever met him and that if he weren't a politician I would be happy to call him "friend".

Truth to tell,same thing about Boy Jorge. I think,at heart,that he is a genuinely nice guy that means no harm to anyone. Unfortunately he is a mama's boy,and his mama was "Henrietta the Hun",and a bleeping globalist from the tips of her hoofs to the top of the horns on her head. Truly a nasty,evil bitch.


Yet........,there is still something about him,maybe in his eyes or his smile,that throws me off and tells me to back off.

 
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and a rock solid conservative. 

Until it is politically expedient to be something else. Yeah,ALL politicians MUST "play that game" to a  certain extent,but it SEEMS to ME that he takes less nudging than others. Maybe it is because of the district he represents and the voters there,and maybe it is because that is just the way he is. Either way it just sets off warning bells.

Remember how everybody used to promote the Bush Crime Family as "Texans and conservatives"?

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A lot of his negative press is generated by his early actions of going all in with the 'Mr. Smith Goes to Washington". principles, and not playing nice with Turtle and his agenda. 

Bleep Turtle and the horse he rode in on.

 
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In his defense now...  Cruz has supported the POTUS agenda as much, if not more than any other Senator.

That he has. No question about it,and I was more than a little surprised.


 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: PeteS in CA on June 26, 2020, 11:49:57 pm
Are we back in sight of the rails?

Speaking of rails, I think I prefer "China Rails" in the "Empire Builder" series, though "India Rails" is good too. I've been playing "Australia Rails" a lot recently. Too bad the whole series is discontinued.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 26, 2020, 11:57:09 pm
Are we back in sight of the rails?

Speaking of rails, I think I prefer "China Rails" in the "Empire Builder" series, though "India Rails" is good too. I've been playing "Australia Rails" a lot recently. Too bad the whole series is discontinued.

I'm a fan of the rails.  @Fishrrman and @ironhorsedriver could relate.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Sighlass on June 26, 2020, 11:57:47 pm
I keep a forum buddy list, but that clear thinking observation put you squarely on my Best Buddy List  :beer:

I believe whether you pray or not even a secular society needs a strong religious underpinning as the basis for its constitution. America has that freedom to worship or not, and protecting that freedom is important. Today’s democrats—the Left’s political vehicle—would strip that out of the constitution and BoRs.

Thanks @aligncare .... I rightfully get my knocks and bangs cause I guess I am about as opinionated as the next fellow. We all do. CD and I agree on some stuff and other times not even close (and I got the "you suck" PMs to prove it). You gonna tick someone off, just part of the process. But for the most part, the forum accepts each other except the fringe elements. The solid Never Trumpers and the Always Trumpers grind on each other, but I think at our ages, not many of us worried about one of us blowing a fuse and hunting down someone. Ole Pete, might make one last stab at us, lol, never know, we are a spirited bunch for geezers.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: PeteS in CA on June 27, 2020, 12:09:22 am
I'm a fan of the rails.  @Fishrrman and @ironhorsedriver could relate.

"Lunar Rails" is kind of "out there", a bit abstract. I haven't seen it, but I suspect "Martian Rails" is even more so. They're kind of like "Empire Builder" meets "Settlers of Catan" in outer space.

I wish we'd thought to get a copy of "Russian Rails" before it became unavailable.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 27, 2020, 12:13:29 am
(and I got the "you suck" PMs to prove it)

Speaking of PMs...you should see my Inbox.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 27, 2020, 12:23:20 am
Thanks @aligncare .... I rightfully get my knocks and bangs cause I guess I am about as opinionated as the next fellow. We all do. CD and I agree on some stuff and other times not even close (and I got the "you suck" PMs to prove it). You gonna tick someone off, just part of the process. But for the most part, the forum accepts each other except the fringe elements. The solid Never Trumpers and the Always Trumpers grind on each other, but I think at our ages, not many of us worried about one of us blowing a fuse and hunting down someone. Ole Pete, might make one last stab at us, lol, never know, we are a spirited bunch for geezers.

Dr. @aligncare is definitely one of the good ones.  Intelligent and well spoken.  I hope I am on his buddy list....

I wish he were in AZ instead of NY.   :crying:  I'd have him up to the Castle for a visit.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 02:04:47 am
@Chosen Daughter, ?? I've been in Silicon Valley Evangelical circles since the Carter Administration. I never heard Carly Fiorina's name mentioned during the time when she was leading HP and living in Los Altos Hills. Looking into it some, I see she was raised Episcopalian, which, sadly, is in no sense Evangelical. She herself has said that she is not a regular church goer. So I'm not sure where you get that Carly Fiorina "is a face in the Evangelical Church".

You are right I was thinking of Michelle Backman.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 27, 2020, 02:13:17 am
You are right I was thinking of Michelle Backman.

Meg Whitman?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 02:14:53 am
Thanks @aligncare .... I rightfully get my knocks and bangs cause I guess I am about as opinionated as the next fellow. We all do. CD and I agree on some stuff and other times not even close (and I got the "you suck" PMs to prove it). You gonna tick someone off, just part of the process. But for the most part, the forum accepts each other except the fringe elements. The solid Never Trumpers and the Always Trumpers grind on each other, but I think at our ages, not many of us worried about one of us blowing a fuse and hunting down someone. Ole Pete, might make one last stab at us, lol, never know, we are a spirited bunch for geezers.

Hugs.  Nobody is always going to agree.  I enjoy your posts. 

I think Jeff Sessions did a good job.  I think you were the one that stood up for him.  Am I right?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 02:16:09 am
Meg Whitman?

Oh, I spelled it wrong.  Michelle Bachman.  Wasn't she the Evangelical?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 02:23:10 am
@corbe

YIKES! You could at least warn people before posting crap like that so they can at least have time to put on welding goggles.

 *****rollingeyes*****  I can't be sure, but might be a good thing we don't know what you look like.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 02:26:38 am
@DCPatriot

... And you're talking out your butt. Sommore. Your assumptions have lead you astray. Again.  :laugh:

 :patriot:  I think I got under his skin when I posted how liberal Jeff Vandrew is.  People didn't comment, and I can understand.  Its hard to defend the indefensible.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Sighlass on June 27, 2020, 02:35:25 am
Hugs.  Nobody is always going to agree.  I enjoy your posts. 

I think Jeff Sessions did a good job.  I think you were the one that stood up for him.  Am I right?

Yeah, I defended Sessions for the most part. Was pretty ticked he threw his support towards Trump, but that job beckoned. Jeff is an honorable politician and over the years he has proven himself that way to me (example when he actually defended Ted Cruz from Gang of 8 smears when he didn't have to especially since he was committed to Trump).
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: libertybele on June 27, 2020, 02:38:58 am
@XenaLee

I honestly think he may be one of the smartest candidates to ever run for the Presidency,but there is something I can't quite put my finger on that is a little "off" about him,and I just can't trust him.

My two cents -- I agree, Cruz is one of the smartest candidates to ever run and IMHO one of the most honest; and the response people have had about him is that he means what he says and does what he says ... both qualities are very unusual in the political circuit and I think that makes people skeptical about him.  He's almost too good to be true  -- his education was unmatched by any other candidate along with his supreme court case experience as well as his honesty and integrity and he's brilliant.  Again, all qualities difficult to find; especially in a "politician" and I think that makes people second guess him.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 02:45:30 am
Yeah, I defended Sessions for the most part. Was pretty ticked he threw his support towards Trump, but that job beckoned. Jeff is an honorable politician and over the years he has proven himself that way to me (example when he actually defended Ted Cruz from Gang of 8 smears when he didn't have to especially since he was committed to Trump).

I think that is why he took the job.  He believed in Trumps immigration policy.  And he was doing a great job until he recused himself.  And Lindsey Graham advised him to.  Well, I have asked over and over again why the president didn't dump liberal Lindsey over his public comments on Sessions needing to recuse himself.  People just don't want to face the facts.  Session is good.  I hope he wins over Trumps guy.  That guy has no known positions except football positions.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 02:46:58 am
My two cents -- I agree, Cruz is one of the smartest candidates to ever run and IMHO one of the most honest; and the response people have had about him is that he means what he says and does what he says ... both qualities are very unusual in the political circuit and I think that makes people skeptical about him.  He's almost too good to be true  -- his education was unmatched by any other candidate along with his supreme court case experience as well as his honesty and integrity and he's brilliant.  Again, all qualities difficult to find; especially in a "politician" and I think that makes people second guess him.

Correction used to be.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 02:48:23 am
Correction used to be.

YEP... That trust is as much as gone.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: DCPatriot on June 27, 2020, 02:49:14 am
:patriot:  I think I got under his skin when I posted how liberal Jeff Vandrew is.  People didn't comment, and I can understand.  Its hard to defend the indefensible.

BZZZZZZ!  Wrong again.

I stopped reading your crap years ago.   
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 02:50:22 am
YEP... That trust is as much as gone.

Yep.  It happened when he nearly lost in Texas.  Something about needing Trump endorsement.  He's changed. 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 02:51:50 am
BZZZZZZ!  Wrong again.

I stopped reading your crap years ago.

Oh, it has been years.  Your right and they have been long ones.  If you stopped reading there wouldn't be anything to complain about right?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: DCPatriot on June 27, 2020, 06:18:26 am
Oh, it has been years.  Your right and they have been long ones.  If you stopped reading there wouldn't be anything to complain about right?

Merely a case of seeing so many fellow members' posts reassuring me I had you pegged right from your start here.

PS:  And it's "you're", not "your". 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 27, 2020, 02:42:26 pm
Oh, I spelled it wrong.  Michelle Bachman.  Wasn't she the Evangelical?

I believe she is.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 27, 2020, 03:02:38 pm
*****rollingeyes*****  I can't be sure, but might be a good thing we don't know what you look like.

@Chosen Daughter

You would become overwhelmed with lust,and faint from an overdose of "the vapors".
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: corbe on June 27, 2020, 03:05:57 pm
   I always pictured you as a Gary Cooper type @sneakypete

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wLuocSxY9ng/UhbWTnFP67I/AAAAAAAAC48/DIaUG0QxfIo/s1600/coop1950'sold.jpg)
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 03:16:36 pm
You would become overwhelmed with lust,and faint from an overdose of "the vapors".


@sneakypete
Lookin at you makes women fart? I don't think that's something I'd be bragging on. Jussayin.  :whistle:

Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 27, 2020, 03:26:16 pm

@sneakypete
Lookin at you makes women fart? I don't think that's something I'd be bragging on. Jussayin.  :whistle:

@roamer_1

You don't known what "being overcome with the vapors" means?

You have my sympathy.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 27, 2020, 03:31:14 pm
@roamer_1

You don't known what "being overcome with the vapors" means?

You have my sympathy.

Pete...  factoid (from a student of history).  I have seen data where it is beleived that 60-70% of the women in this country were addicted to Laudlum in the late 19th century.  My intuition tells me sometimes a "reason" was needed for a hit. 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 03:57:17 pm

@sneakypete
Lookin at you makes women fart? I don't think that's something I'd be bragging on. Jussayin.  :whistle:

 ooophoto   :turkeycarve:   :mauslaff:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 04:07:41 pm
@roamer_1

You don't known what "being overcome with the vapors" means?

You have my sympathy.

Yeah, yeah... 'feeling faint'... corset too tight and she ain't getting enough air... emotionally distraught.. Overcome. riiiiight...

Retiring to another room with the vapours is a polite way for a woman to say she's gonna go in the other room, loosen her corset, and let loose like a western mule-skinner.  She's gonna go in there, haul off, and fart like the barber's cat. She's gonna let loose the thunder, and with all them crinolines and their static there may be lightning. A small herd of ladies go with her because it takes a herd of em to shake all the stank outta them petticoats. Can't have her returning to the cotillion draggin hell's own stench along behind her.

The two definitions are uniquely related and intertwined, as a tightly bound corset leaves no room for  expansion with gas, so indeed, letting the corset loose and allowing the gas to pass can solve the issue of feeling faint.

But while the term originates in Greek 'eminations of the womb', and applies to a sort of female hysteria (we get the word from the Greek word for womb), but by the time of the Antebellum South, women used the excuse of 'female frailty' for a host of things.... foremost among them, the need to loosen the corset, and the need for eminations of another kind. Female mystery shrouded the communication: "C'mon Rebecca... Let's go out back... I gotta fart."
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 04:14:26 pm
Pete...  factoid (from a student of history).  I have seen data where it is beleived that 60-70% of the women in this country were addicted to Laudlum in the late 19th century.  My intuition tells me sometimes a "reason" was needed for a hit.

That is an interesting intuition. And likely there is truth in it.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: corbe on June 27, 2020, 04:19:45 pm
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/27162a8eb5dd746ed07c194345aaa5f9/tumblr_mucq0oJsar1sbplfzo1_500.gif)

   I always  thought ol Doc kept Ms Kitty doped up, on the side.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 04:25:21 pm
Yeah, yeah... 'feeling faint'... corset too tight and she ain't getting enough air... emotionally distraught.. Overcome. riiiiight...

Retiring to another room with the vapours is a polite way for a woman to say she's gonna go in the other room, loosen her corset, and let loose like a western mule-skinner.  She's gonna go in there, haul off, and fart like the barber's cat. She's gonna let loose the thunder, and with all them crinolines and their static there may be lightning. A small herd of ladies go with her because it takes a herd of em to shake all the stank outta them petticoats. Can't have her returning to the cotillion draggin hell's own stench along behind her.

The two definitions are uniquely related and intertwined, as a tightly bound corset leaves no room for  expansion with gas, so indeed, letting the corset loose and allowing the gas to pass can solve the issue of feeling faint.

But while the term originates in Greek 'eminations of the womb', and applies to a sort of female hysteria (we get the word from the Greek word for womb), but by the time of the Antebellum South, women used the excuse of 'female frailty' for a host of things.... foremost among them, the need to loosen the corset, and the need for eminations of another kind. Female mystery shrouded the communication: "C'mon Rebecca... Let's go out back... I gotta fart."

Good thing women don't wear those evil corsets anymore.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 27, 2020, 04:26:33 pm
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/27162a8eb5dd746ed07c194345aaa5f9/tumblr_mucq0oJsar1sbplfzo1_500.gif)

   I always  thought ol Doc kept Ms Kitty doped up, on the side.

"Bill Cosby, the Early Years."
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 27, 2020, 04:27:42 pm
Good thing women don't wear those evil corsets anymore.

Agreed.  Interestingly, people still get "The Vapours."
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 04:36:30 pm
Good thing women don't wear those evil corsets anymore.

Hey, you'll get no beef from me... Even so, women still do a whole lot of nonsense for the sake of vanity. I get that appearances matter to women, I do. But the whole 9 yards they do every day has never made sense to me... Growing up around mountain gals, I guess. Hilljillies have all that stuff in their toy box, but it's for the rare occasion, not for every day... And I will tell you what, when you ain't used to a woman being gussied up, when she does go to the 9's, the difference is amazing.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 27, 2020, 04:41:10 pm
Good thing women don't wear those evil corsets anymore.

Honestly,  a corset a'int much different than a woman squeezing into a pair of panty hose two sizes too small.   :cool:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: truth_seeker on June 27, 2020, 05:13:03 pm
Growing up around mountain gals,

I vaguely recall you were originally from Chicago. How did I make that mistake, or did I?

@roamer_1
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 05:24:52 pm
I vaguely recall you were originally from Chicago. How did I make that mistake, or did I?

@roamer_1

@truth_seeker
Moved out here in fifth or sixth grade. My mamma is a Kansas farm gal, and the old man was Blue Collar and self employed, with enough sense to marry a farm gal.

Came out here early enough that not much of Chicago stuck to me... A bit handicapped to start with, but just in time, really. Of all the things I owe my old man,  the biggest one is having the sense to drag me out here and set me free.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 05:24:56 pm
Hey, you'll get no beef from me... Even so, women still do a whole lot of nonsense for the sake of vanity. I get that appearances matter to women, I do. But the whole 9 yards they do every day has never made sense to me... Growing up around mountain gals, I guess. Hilljillies have all that stuff in their toy box, but it's for the rare occasion, not for every day... And I will tell you what, when you ain't used to a woman being gussied up, when she does go to the 9's, the difference is amazing.

Makeup clogs pores and causes wrinkles.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 05:30:28 pm
Makeup clogs pores and causes wrinkles.

And women who have never shaved don't need to shave.  :beer:

 :rolling: I can see all y'all cringing.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 27, 2020, 05:31:19 pm
Makeup clogs pores and causes wrinkles.

Especially true out in the Desert.  My wife feels it because everyday we step outside, it's over 100F now.  In a couple weeks I expect the 110 days to start up.  Make-up is rarely worn here in the summer months, she found that out 20 years ago when we met.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 05:35:42 pm
Especially true out in the Desert.  My wife feels it because everyday we step outside, it's over 100F now.  In a couple weeks I expect the 110 days to start up.  Make-up is rarely worn here in the summer months, she found that out 20 years ago when we met.

@roamer_1 is right.  Its nice on occasion.  But I don't wear any foundation.   Most days just mascara.  Especially in a hot climate you need to just hydrate the skin and protect from the sun.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 27, 2020, 05:37:20 pm
@roamer_1 is right.  Its nice on occasion.  But I don't wear any foundation.   Most days just mascara.  Especially in a hot climate you need to just hydrate the skin and protect from the sun.

Foundation is probably the worst thing that can be applied to skin. 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 05:39:57 pm
Foundation is probably the worst thing that can be applied to skin.

Especially with a trowel. I don't even find that to be attractive. Or rather, I find it to be abhorrent.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 27, 2020, 05:41:00 pm
Pete...  factoid (from a student of history).  I have seen data where it is beleived that 60-70% of the women in this country were addicted to Laudlum in the late 19th century.  My intuition tells me sometimes a "reason" was needed for a hit.

@catfish1957

I have what *I* consider better info than that. The woman who raised me was born in 1910,and she told me stories about how most of the local women in the 20's and 30's were ordering Laudlum by the case from the Sears catalogue. It was actually advertised as something to calm women and help them get through the day.

Which would drive today's wimmins libbers up the wall because they are not only ignorant of politics,but ignorant of everything else,too. THE most educated gathering of fools in the history of the world.

Anyhow,back on subject. When you stop and think about the daily life of women with children back then,it was nothing more of less than a life of brutal work that is never done,and almost totally lacking when it comes to appreciation because,let's face it,the husband's/father's life wasn't what you could call a bundle of joy,either. Work 6 days a week for 12 hours at mostly manual labor work,and your big moment of the day was to either come home for dinner and the hope of reading the paper (IF they could read) as a way of relaxing. Either that,or go to a bar,and most just didn't have the money to go to bars.

Being single was DEFINITELY where it was at back then.

BTW,this conversation came about after I came home one night from partying,and cleverly hid my bag of pot in the spoon jar on the table.

BTW,the "vapors" is what happens to a female dog when she goes into season. It was a polite way to say a woman was hot to trot .

Not that *I* personally would ever even THINK that a woman would ever want to have sex for any reason other than procreation,and even then it would be reluctantly,mind you!
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 27, 2020, 05:45:35 pm
ooophoto   :turkeycarve:   :mauslaff:

@Chosen Daughter

Just imagine you are alone with Jesus,and Barry White is singing on the radio.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 05:54:31 pm
@catfish1957

I have what *I* consider better info than that. The woman who raised me was born in 1910,and she told me stories about how most of the local women in the 20's and 30's were ordering Laudlum by the case from the Sears catalogue. It was actually advertised as something to calm women and help them get through the day.

@sneakypete
That's right, but kinda incomplete. Morphine and cocaine derivatives are a product of the civil war... It was actually beginning before that, as one can almost literally trace distribution back to Chinese in California, and exploded in distribution with the railroad's completion.

It was a very serious problem with addicts of the day usually found to be Civil War vets and housewives... And eventually led to the formation of the FDA for 'truth in ingredients' purposes to fight the first national drug war...

Laudanum certainly has a place in it (though I think Laudanum was always a prescription medicine), but a whole lot of the addiction was through marketing of feel-good 'medicines' sold across the counter containing opiates and particularly cocaine - Hence Coca Cola's ignominious roots, which were everything but uncommon.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 27, 2020, 06:23:47 pm
Especially with a trowel. I don't even find that to be attractive. Or rather, I find it to be abhorrent.

Sometimes they're after that "manikin" skin look.  If I wanted to see that, I'd get one of those "realistic life-sized dolls."   *bouche*
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 06:28:14 pm
Especially with a trowel. I don't even find that to be attractive. Or rather, I find it to be abhorrent.

I had a stepmother that troweled it on.  She used to wear turtle neck sweaters and she troweled all the way down her neck.  The sweaters were beige too.   888mouth
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: truth_seeker on June 27, 2020, 06:32:13 pm
@truth_seeker
Moved out here in fifth or sixth grade. My mamma is a Kansas farm gal, and the old man was Blue Collar and self employed, with enough sense to marry a farm gal.

Came out here early enough that not much of Chicago stuck to me... A bit handicapped to start with, but just in time, really. Of all the things I owe my old man,  the biggest one is having the sense to drag me out here and set me free.

Before turning 7 I had lived in CA, Utah, CA again, Utah, Wyoming, Colorado, and back again to California.

During my lifetime my county has grown from about 200 thousand to 3.2 million.

IIt is doubtful my wife would leave, since for 53 years of marriage we have been within a mile of the ocean, and I have never lived in a house with AC.

We fight and make up a couple of times a day. I showed her some other places. Aside from the CA coast, she picked St. George Utah and Sedona Arizona. Too hot, and you need AC--so what is the point? To her.

She is already a hot blooded Italian.














Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 06:35:02 pm
@Chosen Daughter

Just imagine you are alone with Jesus,and Barry White is singing on the radio.

I would rather imagine you alone with Jesus.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 06:37:50 pm
Before turning 7 I had lived in CA, Utah, CA again, Utah, Wyoming, Colorado, and back again to California.

During my lifetime my county has grown from about 200 thousand to 3.2 million.

IIt is doubtful my wife would leave, since for 53 years of marriage we have been within a mile of the ocean, and I have never lived in a house with AC.

We fight and make up a couple of times a day. I showed her some other places. Aside from the CA coast, she picked St. George Utah and Sedona Arizona. Too hot, and you need AC--so what is the point? To her.

She is already a hot blooded Italian.

Well how nice.  I was right you live in California.  Land of fruits and nuts.  And you are not 22 like your profile states.  And they are definitely nuts.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: skeeter on June 27, 2020, 06:43:31 pm
Before turning 7 I had lived in CA, Utah, CA again, Utah, Wyoming, Colorado, and back again to California.

During my lifetime my county has grown from about 200 thousand to 3.2 million.

IIt is doubtful my wife would leave, since for 53 years of marriage we have been within a mile of the ocean, and I have never lived in a house with AC.

We fight and make up a couple of times a day. I showed her some other places. Aside from the CA coast, she picked St. George Utah and Sedona Arizona. Too hot, and you need AC--so what is the point? To her.

She is already a hot blooded Italian.
OC was wide open as late as the 90s, when I'd travel there regularly to visit our HDD suppliers. I hear its changed quite a bit since.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 06:43:36 pm
@sneakypete
That's right, but kinda incomplete. Morphine and cocaine derivatives are a product of the civil war... It was actually beginning before that, as one can almost literally trace distribution back to Chinese in California, and exploded in distribution with the railroad's completion.

It was a very serious problem with addicts of the day usually found to be Civil War vets and housewives... And eventually led to the formation of the FDA for 'truth in ingredients' purposes to fight the first national drug war...

Laudanum certainly has a place in it (though I think Laudanum was always a prescription medicine), but a whole lot of the addiction was through marketing of feel-good 'medicines' sold across the counter containing opiates and particularly cocaine - Hence Coca Cola's ignominious roots, which were everything but uncommon.

My mother drank so much Coca Cola.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: truth_seeker on June 27, 2020, 06:47:48 pm
Well how nice.  I was right you live in California.  Land of fruits and nuts.  And you are not 22 like your profile states.  And they are definitely nuts.

I'll be walking by the Pacific Ocean later, and you are in Seattle.

If you actually thought I was 22, you are the one that is nuts. And in Seattle.

Readers may decide for themselves.

Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 07:00:33 pm
I'll be walking by the Pacific Ocean later, and you are in Seattle.

If you actually thought I was 22, you are the one that is nuts. And in Seattle.

Readers may decide for themselves.

I don't live in Seattle.  I walk on the beaches of the Coast and the Sound all the time.  So?  Washington is a beautiful state.  Rialto Beach.  Ocean Shores.  Long Beach.  Ruby Beach.  Deception Pass...………….  We have the Straights of Juan de Fuca.  And the Islands.  You should visit some time.

https://cityseeker.com/victoria-bc/1144073-strait-of-juan-de-fuca (https://cityseeker.com/victoria-bc/1144073-strait-of-juan-de-fuca)

https://beautifulwashington.com/island-county.html (https://beautifulwashington.com/island-county.html)

https://forgetsomeday.com/rialto-beach/ (https://forgetsomeday.com/rialto-beach/)

San Juan Islands:

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=san+juan+islands&form=HDRSC2&first=1&scenario=ImageBasicHover (https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=san+juan+islands&form=HDRSC2&first=1&scenario=ImageBasicHover)
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 07:08:39 pm
Before turning 7 I had lived in CA, Utah, CA again, Utah, Wyoming, Colorado, and back again to California.

During my lifetime my county has grown from about 200 thousand to 3.2 million.

IIt is doubtful my wife would leave, since for 53 years of marriage we have been within a mile of the ocean, and I have never lived in a house with AC.

We fight and make up a couple of times a day. I showed her some other places. Aside from the CA coast, she picked St. George Utah and Sedona Arizona. Too hot, and you need AC--so what is the point? To her.

She is already a hot blooded Italian.

@truth_seeker
 :shrug:

Send her up this way.... The Tetons in WY or ID, the ID panhandle, or Western MT... So long as you can take the Winter... If you are more urban, maybe Spokane Wa, Boise ID, or Missoula MT... Bozeman MT too, maybe..

For me, this right here is the jewel of the world... NW Montana (really Western MT) over through the Idaho panhandle. Of that, maybe the Flathead valley (Kalispell, where I live) and Coeur d'Alene Idaho are the best, though I would rather be up in the Yaak here or over in the Priest River country in ID... That's probably way too wild for y'all.

We are getting too big here... About 40k in Kalispell, and 70-90k in the whole valley (concentrated in Kalispell, Whitefish, Columbia Falls, Bigfork, and Polson), Though deep forest is little more than 10 miles away most anywhere hereabouts. Miles and miles of it.

I don't have air conditioning, nor have I ever, absent a window unit here and there... Even when it is HOT (end of July through August), maybe 2 weeks above low 90's and a day or two here and there, normally, when the sun goes down, so does the temperature. It's 40s and 50s at night... So if you shut the house up in the morning, and close all the curtains where the sun is going to be, and open her up at night, the house stays nice till late afternoon... with an ice cold lake or river never too far away. So worst case scenario, a couple weeks of evening fishing...

It's really about the winter, but if you live in town, and have a decent snow blower, it ain't all that.
If you are a rancher or a gentleman rancher, figure on a snow plow for the pickup and a good tractor with a loader and/or blower... Necessities.



Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 07:19:07 pm
I had a stepmother that troweled it on.  She used to wear turtle neck sweaters and she troweled all the way down her neck.  The sweaters were beige too.   888mouth

It ain't really the concrete. I have just found in my life that women that need to hide behind all that crap tend to have massive insecurities. YMMV  :shrug:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 07:25:02 pm
My mother drank so much Coca Cola.

So did I early on... Well Pepsi and Mountain Dew... Went through a cold pack a day for a while there... Kept a cooler full of ice in the truck. Till I found out that freezing milk jugs full of water was way more satisfying when working hard out on the land... Still have four jugs froze up in the freezer, just something I do... And somewhere around 30 or 35 I went back to my roots and started drinking sweet tea and lemonade. Been doing that all my life other than then. mo bedda
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 07:28:16 pm
Here it is @truth_seeker the liberal section of Washington that controls our politics.  Highly populated with leftists.  Much of them migrating from shriek!!!!!!! California.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=g1ROWbUq&id=1F3436DCA80E80E2C66B980F8E24435EF9A09F02&thid=OIP.g1ROWbUqkvK6xw6FPshZoQAAAA&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fupload.wikimedia.org%2fwikipedia%2fcommons%2fthumb%2fe%2fe7%2fSeattle-lakewashington-lakesammamish.PNG%2f250px-Seattle-lakewashington-lakesammamish.PNG&exph=267&expw=250&q=map+of+the+east+side+washington&simid=607987787790354652&ck=B81AA08B58DAB1CD573C0E5709323465&selectedIndex=0&ajaxhist=0 (https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=g1ROWbUq&id=1F3436DCA80E80E2C66B980F8E24435EF9A09F02&thid=OIP.g1ROWbUqkvK6xw6FPshZoQAAAA&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fupload.wikimedia.org%2fwikipedia%2fcommons%2fthumb%2fe%2fe7%2fSeattle-lakewashington-lakesammamish.PNG%2f250px-Seattle-lakewashington-lakesammamish.PNG&exph=267&expw=250&q=map+of+the+east+side+washington&simid=607987787790354652&ck=B81AA08B58DAB1CD573C0E5709323465&selectedIndex=0&ajaxhist=0)

A State Divided: As Washington Becomes More Liberal, Republicans Push Back
New liberal laws and a new senate coalition illustrate the stark east-west divide in Washington state
By Kayla Webley Jan. 15, 2013

https://nation.time.com/2013/01/15/a-state-divided-as-washington-becomes-more-liberal-republicans-push-back/ (https://nation.time.com/2013/01/15/a-state-divided-as-washington-becomes-more-liberal-republicans-push-back/)

People have been jumping ship from California for a long time.

https://www.ocregister.com/2019/10/31/190122-more-people-left-california-last-year-vs-arrived-a-38-jump/ (https://www.ocregister.com/2019/10/31/190122-more-people-left-california-last-year-vs-arrived-a-38-jump/)

They bring their liberalism to Washington.  We have a saying.  Don't Californiate Washington.  Too late.

Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 07:31:11 pm
So did I early on... Well Pepsi and Mountain Dew... Went through a cold pack a day for a while there... Kept a cooler full of ice in the truck. Till I found out that freezing milk jugs full of water was way more satisfying when working hard out on the land... Still have four jugs froze up in the freezer, just something I do... And somewhere around 30 or 35 I went back to my roots and started drinking sweet tea and lemonade. Been doing that all my life other than then. mo bedda

I only drink water or tea, no sugar since stage 3 cancer.  I used to drink Coke, but not like my mother.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 07:41:29 pm

I quit shaving when I retired.  Gave up makeup years ago when I realized how time consuming it was to apply and I'd rather spend my time on other things.  Pantyhose went by the boards when my last employer instituted a business casual dress code.  Dresses too were gone in favor of pants.  These days if I have, say, a wedding to attend, I don't have anything to dress up.  So I don't go.  Fine with me -- never liked the overblown weddings customary in my family and where I live anyway.

No high heels.  Give me a flat heel.  Or better yet, sneakers.

When I was a youngster, corsets were gone, but my domineering mother insisted I wear a girdle.  Most uncomfortable dang thing on the planet.    I finally said no to that too.

All this stuff women do to make themselves attractive, or so they think:  I decided long ago to just be me.  No extra frills.  If a guy doesn't like me as i am, well, it's his loss.

I meant what I said - Now, I don't know about Mediterranean tribes...  Most the gals up in the sticks around here are Scots Irish, Native, or Norwegian/Swedish or some other northern European derivative... But many hilljillies have never had a razor to em. Anywhere. Their fur is fine and delicate, soft, and doesn't bother me at all. In fact I find it sexy as hell. The first three gals I went with had hair.

I don't know, maybe a gal can get that soft fur back... I know it took years for my beard to turn soft after shaving for so long. Started out bristly and sparse and women objected... now it is soft, full and flowing... Maybe that same sort of reversion can happen for women too. But mostly, women who start off to shave have to continue.

But my point being, natural woman or natural man... Social sensibilities are mostly baloney. Learned nonsense that is a form of vanity.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 27, 2020, 07:46:16 pm
Yer all a bunch of Neanderthals.   :laugh:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 07:48:22 pm
I only drink water or tea, no sugar since stage 3 cancer.  I used to drink Coke, but not like my mother.

I drink a TON of water. And a TON of sweet tea... sugar or honey, interchangeable with what I have. Still WAY less sugar than in your standard can of coke.

Also partial to strong coffee, chaga, dandelion coffee, and a wide variety of hot teas. It is SO nice to have chaga back... with your condition, you should be drinking chaga too.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Sighlass on June 27, 2020, 08:06:30 pm
Yer all a bunch of Neanderthals.   :laugh:

Lol, my kind of folks. Now where did I last leave my hair clippers, the beard is getting kinda shaggy.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 08:16:42 pm
I drink a TON of water. And a TON of sweet tea... sugar or honey, interchangeable with what I have. Still WAY less sugar than in your standard can of coke.

Also partial to strong coffee, chaga, dandelion coffee, and a wide variety of hot teas. It is SO nice to have chaga back... with your condition, you should be drinking chaga too.

Oh, dandelion coffee.  How is that done?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 08:30:17 pm
Oh, dandelion coffee.  How is that done?

The root cleaned and chopped to about 1/4" chunks... fairly uniform is important...
spread em out on a dry cookie sheet and roast em in the oven low (250-300 maybe) removing to worry em up now and then to keep it from sticking , till at least golden, though the darker they get the richer they get.. I like a light coffee bean brown color. Then run it through a coffee grinder to a powder.

Roughly a teaspoon to a cup. YMMV... Add what you'd like. I take it black with a hint of black-strap molasses, which I consider necessary for this deep tone that makes it more like coffee.

If you buy off the Azure truck, they have it in singles sticks or in a 1 lb pouch... That's where I get mine mostly. Dandy Blend, I think. Dandelion with chicory, beet, barley and rye.

Remember about the molasses... just a touch. Not too much

Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: DCPatriot on June 27, 2020, 08:34:17 pm
@Chosen Daughter

Just imagine you are alone with Jesus,and Barry White is singing on the radio.

Damn you, Pete!!

First Diet Pepsi I've opened in a decade and you made it go out of my nose!    :laugh:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 27, 2020, 08:52:15 pm
Honestly,  a corset a'int much different than a woman squeezing into a pair of panty hose two sizes too small.   :cool:
I always wondered how many people died per year from the shrapnel in spandex failures...
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: EdinVA on June 27, 2020, 09:05:43 pm
I always wondered how many people died per year from the shrapnel in spandex failures...

 :silly:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: truth_seeker on June 27, 2020, 09:13:46 pm
@truth_seeker
 :shrug:

Send her up this way....

I've seen most of it, and she has seen some. Barring major changes, we are too old and settled, to leave here. In part we both have family here.

We have or did have relatives inWY,  WA, OR, CA, NV, AZ, TX, NH,  British Colunbia, Yukon Terr, Alberta

Wife has 1st Cousins inItaly

I have friends headed for ID.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 09:15:15 pm
The root cleaned and chopped to about 1/4" chunks... fairly uniform is important...
spread em out on a dry cookie sheet and roast em in the oven low (250-300 maybe) removing to worry em up now and then to keep it from sticking , till at least golden, though the darker they get the richer they get.. I like a light coffee bean brown color. Then run it through a coffee grinder to a powder.

Roughly a teaspoon to a cup. YMMV... Add what you'd like. I take it black with a hint of black-strap molasses, which I consider necessary for this deep tone that makes it more like coffee.

If you buy off the Azure truck, they have it in singles sticks or in a 1 lb pouch... That's where I get mine mostly. Dandy Blend, I think. Dandelion with chicory, beet, barley and rye.

Remember about the molasses... just a touch. Not too much

Oh, thank you.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 09:35:27 pm
I've seen most of it, and she has seen some. Barring major changes, we are too old and settled, to leave here. In part we both have family here.

We have or did have relatives inWY,  WA, OR, CA, NV, AZ, TX, NH,  British Colunbia, Yukon Terr, Alberta

Wife has 1st Cousins inItaly

I have friends headed for ID.

I dunno... If you are pretty well set, and own property within walking distance to the ocean, you could sell out , get lake front up here - Posh lake front - and live like a king. Family is a thing though, I get that...

But I sure as all hell would not be staying in liberal areas here on out. I'd be talking the whole family into a move. If things actually do go to hell in a handbasket, which they likely could do, megacities will eat themselves alive.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 27, 2020, 09:43:18 pm
But I sure as all hell would not be staying in liberal areas here on out. I'd be talking the whole family into a move. If things actually do go to hell in a handbasket, which they likely could do, megacities will eat themselves alive.

That's right.  It's why we're where we are right now.  And this:

(https://i.imgur.com/regBINx.png)

And this:

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS2mOQVFR6U#)
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 09:54:13 pm
That's right.  It's why we're where we are right now.  And this:

 :beer: :patriot: :seeya:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 27, 2020, 10:50:57 pm
:beer: :patriot: :seeya:

View from the Castle Parapet....
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 11:31:05 pm
View from the Castle Parapet....

Next time I am up at the hole I will try to remember to take pix... Won't publish, because the extraordinary landmarks would make it identifiable - at least in the neighborhood... But I got a view too. And a fair stream with a nice waterfall... Which is going to be my water and power source.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: dancer on June 27, 2020, 11:40:55 pm
No.  I said what I said.  Originally supported Ted, but as his campaign went on, I started to have misgivings about his judgement.  Handing out  teddy bears and soccer balls on the border with Beck when he was supposedly against illegal immigration?  That phony Oval Office set and skit on Beck's show?  Then the crap he pulled trying to steal supporters?  What he pulled on Ben Carson was horrendous.  Dirty tricks with Colorado?  Then he chooses Carly of all people!  His last stunt when he begged Trump to speak at the NCov when he didn't give the speech that he had submitted to the committee, but turned on the nominee and  told delegates to "vote their conscience"  was the last straw.  His entire run showed him to be sneaky, nasty and completely lacking in good judgement.

He has worked hard to restore his image.  It was left in tatters after his stunts.  Time will tell if it is sincere, or is he just pretending to once more be a Conservative so he can run in '24?  Inquiring minds want to know. 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: libertybele on June 27, 2020, 11:56:59 pm
Correction used to be.

I definitely still trust the man.  At the rate things are going .... this Republic will soon be gone -- Ted and the rest of Congress will be out of jobs.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: skeeter on June 27, 2020, 11:58:28 pm
That's right.  It's why we're where we are right now.  And this:

(https://i.imgur.com/regBINx.png)

And this:

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS2mOQVFR6U#)

I could live with that every evening.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: libertybele on June 28, 2020, 12:03:11 am
@sneakypete

I actually met him at a campaign event in his first senatorial primary.  Genuinely a really nice guy, and a rock solid conservative.  A lot of his negative press is generated by his early actions of going all in with the 'Mr. Smith Goes to Washington". principles, and not playing nice with Turtle and his agenda.  Then add the nastiness of the 2016 primaries, and you have  man that IMO has been demonized way more than he deserved.  In his defense now...  Cruz has supported the POTUS agenda as much, if not more than any other Senator.

In retrospect, If there truly is a knock on Cruz, it was his naivity of thinking he could change the world in one term, and that his own party would't sell out at a dimes drop.

I helped with the Cruz' campaign in my area -- he came to the area and met with those helping him -- I was sick with the flu and never got the chance to meet the man.  Definitely a disappointment.

I have no doubt that he knew those in his own party hated him and did everything they could to ensure he didn't become President -- he was up against Jeb! -- and the Bushies aren't exactly fond of Ted --- they don't think much of DJT either --- I think that's a compliment to both men.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 28, 2020, 12:09:37 am
I definitely still trust the man.  At the rate things are going .... this Republic will soon be gone -- Ted and the rest of Congress will be out of jobs.

@libertybele

EVERYBODY will be out of jobs except for the Commissars.

Not to worry,though. If you are young,strong,healthy,and maybe a tad sadistic,there will be plenty of jobs for people that want to wear a badge and swing a truncheon or man a belt-fed machine gun.

History proves this.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: dancer on June 28, 2020, 12:20:16 am
I considered Fiorina an enemy of the state when she ran HP and Lucent into the ground.  A lot of good people were harmed by her incompetence.  That she would try to run for President with that record was pure comedy gold.  That she would go all out to take Trump down is the least surprising news of the week.
As did I.  She is a pure #DeepState Globalist.  She is ruthless.  Sold out American workers without so much as a hint of compassion.  She doesn't care about us; she just wants the ultimate power.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: dancer on June 28, 2020, 12:23:32 am
So Fiorina is now an enemy of the state because she has announced she will be voting for Biden.  Frankly, I wish these pols and others would not announce their voting preferences and just do it.  I really don't care who they vote for; they don't influence my decision one way or the other. 

But she does have the right to vote for whoever she pleases.  I don't know why so many Trump supporters are in such an uproar about her decision.  I was told by a Trump supporter in 2016 that he didn't need my vote to win.  Well then I guess Trump doesn't need Fiorina's vote or mine this time either.   :shrug:
No, Fiorina showed herself to be an enemy of the state long before she ran in the primary for '16. 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: dancer on June 28, 2020, 12:31:03 am
It's not a nose/face cutting exercise when your horse in the race is failing miserably.  It's called constructive feedback and criticism.  Something Trump is apparently not receptive to.
Odd.  Where were all of these leaders and their constructive feedback and criticism when Obama was in office?  Now that Trump is President, the NTers all come out of the woodwork to attack him.  I had to laugh when W came out.  Not a peep out of these folks when Obama tore this Republic apart.  Not one word. 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: EdinVA on June 28, 2020, 12:48:32 am
She just struck me as a female activist with a "get even with the evil white guys" attitude.  We just barely survived 8 years of another activist and did not want another.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: dancer on June 28, 2020, 12:49:50 am
(http://cdn.radioiowa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/CarlyFiorinaSF1.jpg)

                             I'd hit it.
It's time to put the bottle down, Corbe.  It must be close to closing time.   :silly:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: dancer on June 28, 2020, 12:56:32 am
Your Betters For Biden
Kurt Schlichter
Posted: Jun 26, 2020 8:48 AMhttps://townhall.com/columnists//kurtschlichter/2020/06/26/your-betters-for-biden-n2571391
Love Schlichter.  He never ceases to make me laugh. 
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: corbe on June 28, 2020, 12:57:57 am
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  OK, @dancer
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: dancer on June 28, 2020, 01:44:30 am
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Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 28, 2020, 02:08:54 am
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  OK, @dancer

Pretty girl.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 28, 2020, 04:32:06 am
Love Schlichter.  He never ceases to make me laugh.
One issue I take with him. For those who think they are "the Ruling Class", this is America, where there is no such thing.
There are public servants, so serve.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: dancer on June 28, 2020, 07:50:23 am
I definitely still trust the man.  At the rate things are going .... this Republic will soon be gone -- Ted and the rest of Congress will be out of jobs.
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We had better hope and pray that the Democrats fail, because we will all be in trouble.  Did you see that the UN is now calling for a one world government?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: dancer on June 28, 2020, 07:51:52 am
One issue I take with him. For those who think they are "the Ruling Class", this is America, where there is no such thing.
There are public servants, so serve.
Amen.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 28, 2020, 08:17:47 am
I definitely still trust the man.  At the rate things are going .... this Republic will soon be gone -- Ted and the rest of Congress will be out of jobs.
We had better hope and pray that the Democrats fail, because we will all be in trouble.  Did you see that the UN is now calling for a one world government?
Kick 'em out. If they want to rule the world, make them find their own planet.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: DCPatriot on June 28, 2020, 10:30:29 am
One issue I take with him. For those who think they are "the Ruling Class", this is America, where there is no such thing.
There are public servants, so serve.

If Schlicter used "The Ruling Class" he was using it as an insult.   

Furthermore...anybody want to explain?  There was a time when his posted column was locked before it hit the 2nd page.   Now, he's popular and accepted.





Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: catfish1957 on June 28, 2020, 12:50:35 pm
I definitely still trust the man.  At the rate things are going .... this Republic will soon be gone -- Ted and the rest of Congress will be out of jobs.
We had better hope and pray that the Democrats fail, because we will all be in trouble.  Did you see that the UN is now calling for a one world government?

Seems like yesterday MSM and libs alike were calling us "tin-foilers" for our prediction of NWO takeover and dominance.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: skeeter on June 28, 2020, 01:48:53 pm
Pretty girl.

Pretty baked.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 28, 2020, 02:39:13 pm

Did you see that the UN is now calling for a one world government?

@dancer

Did anyone ever think there was a time they DIDN'T plan for World Wide Government,Inc,with them manning the global board?
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 28, 2020, 02:54:41 pm
If Schlicter used "The Ruling Class" he was using it as an insult.   

Furthermore...anybody want to explain?  There was a time when his posted column was locked before it hit the 2nd page.   Now, he's popular and accepted.

Locking threads occurs because of Member posts, rarely because of the article itself.   :shrug:

Kurt does have a way of making butthurt with his style.  I like him.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Bigun on June 28, 2020, 03:03:35 pm
We had better hope and pray that the Democrats fail, because we will all be in trouble.  Did you see that the UN is now calling for a one world government?
Kick 'em out. If they want to rule the world, make them find their own planet.

 :yowsa: pointing-up
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 28, 2020, 11:20:05 pm
We had better hope and pray that the Democrats fail, because we will all be in trouble.  Did you see that the UN is now calling for a one world government?


Seems like yesterday MSM and libs alike were calling us "tin-foilers" for our prediction of NWO takeover and dominance.
Crap. I still remember GHW Bush talking about a New World Order. I would wager that cost him more votes than Perot.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 28, 2020, 11:27:13 pm
Crap. I still remember GHW Bush talking about a New World Order.

And Dubya.
And McCain't.
And Romney.

Reagan was nothing but a burp in the get-along of the Republican Party.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: libertybele on June 28, 2020, 11:45:16 pm
Crap. I still remember GHW Bush talking about a New World Order. I would wager that cost him more votes than Perot.

I actually started paying attention to politics when Bush Sr. lost to Clinton -- that was like a slap in the face. Regan came along and I felt confident that the U.S. was strong and revered by the rest of the world. Most people actually had a sense of patriotism and pride in this country and respected the office of the Presidency and didn't think of apologizing for being an American....those were the days....
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 29, 2020, 12:01:28 am
I actually started paying attention to politics when Bush Sr. lost to Clinton -- that was like a slap in the face. Regan came along and I felt confident that the U.S. was strong and revered by the rest of the world. Most people actually had a sense of patriotism and pride in this country and respected the office of the Presidency and didn't think of apologizing for being an American....those were the days....
Bush Sr.'s losing wasn't so much a slap in the face, nor a surprise, but a wake-up call that weent ignored for another ten years+. Not only His New World Order remarks, but he was demonstrably out of touch with the ordinary American. His speeches seemed wooden. Lest we forget the entire Ruby Ridge incident happened under GWB, and the beginnings of the Waco/Branch Davidian siege/massacre were under his watch, too, culminating in an attack and siege on Feb 28 of Clinton's first year. That had to be in motion, paperwork, surveillance, etc., before Clinton was sworn in.
I had written seeking some sort of reply on a concept of a tariff that would establish a price floor for domestic crude oil, and come off as prices went up to that floor or above it. I had prepared a 10 page paper showing the devastating effects of the crash in oil prices, sent as well to my Senators and Congressman, showing the economic and social devastation of that crash. At the time I viewed it as (1) providing incentive to keep American drilling and completion operations going and thus improving our National Energy Security, as well as putting a multitude back to work. (2) providing revenue for paying on the national Debt, or for other purposes the Federal Government saw fit (Balancing the budget).

I got a very nice form letter reply which thanked me for my concern about Farm Policy. At least they read the zip code.

GHWB not only shot himself in the foot, the result of that election was the elevation of the Arkansas Clinton crime syndicate to global players, something we can rue to this day.  But that's where I soured on the Bushes, and still am.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 29, 2020, 01:11:05 am

 

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GHWB not only shot himself in the foot, the result of that election was the elevation of the Arkansas Clinton crime syndicate to global players, something we can rue to this day.  But that's where I soured on the Bushes, and still am.

He didn't give a rabid rats ass for two reasons. One is he had no idea what he was doing,other than following his mama's orders. Babs was the evil mastermind of that outfit.

The other reason is he set the stage for the Clinton's to become billionaires by opening the door wide open for the Chinese to import cheap crap into the US for Wal-Mart to sell. THAT is what made the Bush and Clinton Clans such goombahs,and why Babs went on record to call Bubba "The son I never had".
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 29, 2020, 01:36:23 am

He didn't give a rabid rats ass for two reasons. One is he had no idea what he was doing,other than following his mama's orders. Babs was the evil mastermind of that outfit.

The other reason is he set the stage for the Clinton's to become billionaires by opening the door wide open for the Chinese to import cheap crap into the US for Wal-Mart to sell. THAT is what made the Bush and Clinton Clans such goombahs,and why Babs went on record to call Bubba "The son I never had".
He was tone deaf, for certain. What's more it set the stage for American jobs to bail like fleas abandoning a dead coyote, looking for someplace warm to live.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 29, 2020, 03:19:46 am
He was tone deaf, for certain. What's more it set the stage for American jobs to bail like fleas abandoning a dead coyote, looking for someplace warm to live.

@Smokin  Joe

I will NEVER truly understand the mindset of people who are out of work because the factories their families have worked in for generations have shut down,will happily sign 2 year contracts to move to China to teach the Chinese how to set up and operate those same factories in China.

The ones I have tried to explain this to get mad and say  "At least I have a job for 2 years!"

Mind-NUMBLINGLY stoopid. They must have been union workers.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 29, 2020, 05:48:07 am
@Smokin  Joe

I will NEVER truly understand the mindset of people who are out of work because the factories their families have worked in for generations have shut down,will happily sign 2 year contracts to move to China to teach the Chinese how to set up and operate those same factories in China.

The ones I have tried to explain this to get mad and say  "At least I have a job for 2 years!"

Mind-NUMBLINGLY stoopid. They must have been union workers.
It's one thing to train those who will work with you or for you, but to eliminate you? F*** that! They can figure it out.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: sneakypete on June 29, 2020, 09:06:44 am
It's one thing to train those who will work with you or for you, but to eliminate you? F*** that! They can figure it out.

@Smokin Joe

Evidentially they can't,or they wouldn't be doing it and bragging about it.

These are natural-born factory workers. People who can't see beyond this weeks paycheck.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Fishrrman on June 30, 2020, 01:25:03 am
This is one of those threads that takes on a life of its own.
This will be my only post in it.

Carly Fiorina is the textbook example of why I believe women should be prohibited from holding any position of power (particularly political power) in society.

(heard on Sgt. Joe Friday's car radio):
"that is all..."
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: corbe on June 30, 2020, 01:34:08 am
   There were times along the course of this Thread that I knew the Mods were gonna lock it, for sure~But they did not!  We covered a lot of topics in this one and certainly released some pent up anger, all in all I consider it a success @Fishrrman
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: libertybele on June 30, 2020, 01:46:33 am
This is one of those threads that takes on a life of its own.
This will be my only post in it.

Carly Fiorina is the textbook example of why I believe women should be prohibited from holding any position of power (particularly political power) in society.

(heard on Sgt. Joe Friday's car radio):
"that is all..."

Wow ...  22222frying pan    Do I dare even dignify that comment with a response??
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: DCPatriot on June 30, 2020, 01:52:41 am
Locking threads occurs because of Member posts, rarely because of the article itself.   :shrug:

Kurt does have a way of making butthurt with his style.  I like him.

Come on, @Cyber Liberty   Don't imply TBR censors.  You know EXACTLY to what I referred. 

Ironically, even the word "butthurt" in here had a 'Moderator' on the poster's ass.

Funny, isn't it?   /s
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 30, 2020, 01:59:50 am
   There were times along the course of this Thread that I knew the Mods were gonna lock it, for sure~But they did not!  We covered a lot of topics in this one and certainly released some pent up anger, all in all I consider it a success @Fishrrman

But these crazy thread get all the hits, @corbe ... And everybody knows to come back for pie.
I like it when a thread gets legs and starts to wander. Kinda like the dead threads at ToS.

It ain't like anyone has 10 pages of commentary on Carly Fiorna. Anyhow. Political commentary was over wit in ten posts.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: corbe on June 30, 2020, 02:10:38 am
   It took me awhile to learn the significance and appreciate those dastardly 'TBR Wandering Threads' to our overall health.    @roamer_1    :beer:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 30, 2020, 02:13:58 am
But these crazy thread get all the hits, @corbe ... And everybody knows to come back for pie.
I like it when a thread gets legs and starts to wander. Kinda like the dead threads at ToS.

It ain't like anyone has 10 pages of commentary on Carly Fiorna. Anyhow. Political commentary was over wit in ten posts.

I was a regular on the Undead Threads.  Sinosaur used to run them, passed away a few years ago....
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 30, 2020, 02:16:27 am
Come on, @Cyber Liberty   Don't imply TBR censors.  You know EXACTLY to what I referred. 

Ironically, even the word "butthurt" in here had a 'Moderator' on the poster's ass.

Funny, isn't it?   /s

Lol.  That fellow patched things up a long time ago.  AFAIK, he left for his own reasons.
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: roamer_1 on June 30, 2020, 02:24:20 am
I was a regular on the Undead Threads.  Sinosaur used to run them, passed away a few years ago....

Yeah, me too...  Seems so long ago now... :beer:
Title: Re: She Wanted to Be a Republican President. She’s Voting for Biden. (Carly)
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 30, 2020, 05:05:16 am
This is one of those threads that takes on a life of its own.
This will be my only post in it.

Carly Fiorina is the textbook example of why I believe women should be prohibited from holding any position of power (particularly political power) in society.

(heard on Sgt. Joe Friday's car radio):
"that is all..."

I thought "that is all..." was the PA signoff on M.A.S.H.