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General Category => National/Breaking News => Second Amendment => Topic started by: txradioguy on September 09, 2019, 05:12:43 pm
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Democrat presidential hopeful Robert Francis “Beto†O’Rourke suggests citizens will comply and surrender their AR-15s if his proposed ban is put into place.
O’Rourke anticipates citizens’ automatic compliance will erase any need for police to go door-to-door.
The Washington Examiner quoted O’Rourke saying, “I don’t see the law enforcement going door to door. I see Americans complying with the law. I see us working with gun owners, non-gun owners, local, county, state, federal law enforcement to come up with the best possible solution.â€
He added, “I have yet to meet an owner of an AR-15 who thinks it’s OK that we have these kind of mass killings in this country.â€
When asked to clarify his plan for enforcement of the ban, O’Rourke said, “How do you — how do we enforce any law? There’s a significant reliance on people complying with the law.â€
The Democrat presidential hopeful is counting on Americans to simply hand over their AR-15s, AK-47s, and other commonly-owned semiautomatic rifles if the government tells them to do so.
During the September 3, 2019, airing of ABC’s The View, host Meghan McCain warned there will be violence if the government tries to take away AR-15s.
She said, “The AR-15 is by far the most popular gun in America. … I was just in the middle of nowhere Wyoming, [and] if you’re talking about going and taking people’s guns away from them, there’s going to be a lot of violence.â€
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/09/beto-orourke-says-people-will-comply-surrender-ar-15s-under-his-ban/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/09/beto-orourke-says-people-will-comply-surrender-ar-15s-under-his-ban/)
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This idiot actually thinks we're just gonna smile and happily give our guns over to the Federal government. :silly:
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:nothappen: :mauslaff: 000hehehehe :pigs fly: :tinfoil:
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This idiot actually thinks we're just gonna smile and happily give our guns over to the Federal government. :silly:
No, he thinks the public believes him when he says it won't lead to confiscation by police.
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Robert Francis says all kinds of stuff none of which is worth listening to.
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What else can Robert Francis 鼻涕 O'Rourke say? Possible answers are
a) people will ignore my ban, causing me to look silly & impotent
b) people will ignore my ban, causing the government to forcefully confiscate the weapons
c) people will comply with my ban
The reality will resemble a combination of all three, and anything less than full compliance means a disaster for the government.
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This idiot actually thinks we're just gonna smile and happily give our guns over to the Federal government. :silly:
He probably learnt that from Fineswine. 333cleo
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The great thing about Irish Bob is he will continue to be a Nacho for the rest of his days.
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I take he has never read Thoreau's "Civil Disobedience".
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Dint they make a documentary about this fool a while back?
(https://i.imgur.com/roURDkq.jpg)
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What else can Robert Francis 鼻涕 O'Rourke say? Possible answers are
a) people will ignore my ban, causing me to look silly & impotent
b) people will ignore my ban, causing the government to forcefully confiscate the weapons
c) people will comply with my ban
The reality will resemble a combination of all three, and anything less than full compliance means a disaster for the government.
The Left is continuing their race to sound the most Stalinist.
Can't imagine what in the world they are thinking?
Living in their totalitarian Communist echo chambers, they don't seem to realize that the number of people in America who actually want and would vote for an authoritarian Police State is miniscule. Keep in mind that for whatever incomprehensible reason when the Leftists propose all these confiscatory State Edicts, confiscating wealth, confiscating property, confiscating weapons, mandating through force of State Power what you are required to 'believe' and what you are not allowed to believe, what opinions you can and cannot hold, they think they are appealing to the majority of voters. Who knows what in the world gave them that idea?
They may get some far Left voters who actually are real Communists. They will get Hollywood votes, of course. They will get some illegal and college student votes who are too stupid to know what they are voting for. But the majority of Americans want nothing to do with the forced imposition of a U.S.S.A. type government.
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There won't be alot of cops that enforce this. In the rural area where most of these types of guns are, everyone knows their value for home protection.
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There won't be alot of cops that enforce this. In the rural area where most of these types of guns are, everyone knows their value for home protection.
I have a cop friend who told me if TSHTF the badge comes off.
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QED: Beto is non compos mentis.
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During the September 3, 2019, airing of ABC’s The View, host Meghan McCain warned there will be violence if the government tries to take away AR-15s.
She said, “The AR-15 is by far the most popular gun in America. … I was just in the middle of nowhere Wyoming, [and] if you’re talking about going and taking people’s guns away from them, there’s going to be a lot of violence.â€
Every now and then, a blind hog finds an acorn...
And before anyone objects to my use of that adage... I know she's not physically blind.
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No, he thinks the public believes him when he says it won't lead to confiscation by police.
I think a lot of them will just ignore this "law"
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Every now and then, a blind hog finds an acorn...
And before anyone objects to my use of that adage... I know she's not physically blind.
I see what you did there. :yowsa:
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I think a lot of them will just ignore this "law"
Yup...this kind of mandatory turn in will be ignored just like the mandatory turn in of "high capacity" magazines in New Jersey.
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Yup...this kind of mandatory turn in will be ignored just like the mandatory turn in of "high capacity" magazines in New Jersey.
Or the Canadian Long Gun registry, which was eventually scrapped.
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I think a lot of them will just ignore this "law"
"... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any
government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one MAKES them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
......just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted -- and you create a nation of law-breakers -- and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."
- p.411,
Ayn Rand, ATLAS SHRUGGED, Signet Books, NY, 1957
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Or the Canadian Long Gun registry, which was eventually scrapped.
Yeah that worked out well for them didn't it?
Sadly I think our progressives are more of the bloodline of Stalin...they won't go "ok we were wrong" and walk away when their scheme fails.
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The Left is continuing their race to sound the most Stalinist.
Can't imagine what in the world they are thinking?
Living in their totalitarian Communist echo chambers, they don't seem to realize that the number of people in America who actually want and would vote for an authoritarian Police State is miniscule. Keep in mind that for whatever incomprehensible reason when the Leftists propose all these confiscatory State Edicts, confiscating wealth, confiscating property, confiscating weapons, mandating through force of State Power what you are required to 'believe' and what you are not allowed to believe, what opinions you can and cannot hold, they think they are appealing to the majority of voters. Who knows what in the world gave them that idea?
They may get some far Left voters who actually are real Communists. They will get Hollywood votes, of course. They will get some illegal and college student votes who are too stupid to know what they are voting for. But the majority of Americans want nothing to do with the forced imposition of a U.S.S.A. type government.
Whatever happens from now on it'll be fun to watch whomever gets the nomination try to cover all of the ground back from the leftwing nether regions where they currently sit to the middle ground by election time. Warp speed ain't gonna cut it.
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Yeah that worked out well for them didn't it?
Sadly I think our progressives are more of the bloodline of Stalin...they won't go "ok we were wrong" and walk away when their scheme fails.
No, they will just ratchet the penalty further North until possession of a 30-round mag fetches 20-life in Prison. Both "Parties" will participate.
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No, they will just ratchet the penalty further North until possession of a 30-round mag fetches 20-life in Prison. Both "Parties" will participate.
At some point, that insanity will be apparent to even the most triggered and stupid.
Possession of a piece of folded metal, a flat bit, a piece of molded plastic and a spring, incapable of firing a bullet.
In the meantime, back to zip guns...
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I see what you did there. :yowsa:
:beer: :seeya: :patriot:
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No Bueno, Beto: Americans Won’t Comply With Your Gun Ban
Bearing Arms September 9, 2019 by Cam Edwards
https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2019/09/09/no-bueno-beto-americans-wont-comply-with-your-gun-ban/ (https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2019/09/09/no-bueno-beto-americans-wont-comply-with-your-gun-ban/)
First of all, what does he mean when he talks about working with people to come up with “the best possible solution� He’s already out there with what he says is the best possible solution: banning semi-automatic long guns (and most likely some handguns as well) and demanding that those who currently legally possess those firearms turn them into the government for some cash. That’s the plan. There’s not a lot of wiggle room, unless you want to talk about how much money you’re going to give, whether state or local law enforcement will take part in the compensated confiscations, and other details. I hate to break it to Beto, but none of those details will make much of a difference in compliance among most Americans.
We have a long history in this country of civil disobedience to laws we consider unjust; from the Alien and Sedition Acts in 1798, the Fugitive Slave Act in the 1850s, Prohibition in the 1920s, the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 60s, to more recent examples like states legalizing cannabis in violation of federal law. Specifically when it comes to firearms, in just the past few years we’ve seen massive non-compliance with New Jersey’s magazine ban, New York State’s SAFE Act, and the so-called “assault weapons ban†in Boulder, Colorado. So why would Beto O’Rourke imagine that Americans would comply with a law that turns them into criminals for continuing to possess something they legally possess today?
First off, if Beto actually managed to enact his proposed law, it would face an immediate court challenge, which would likely take several years for the courts to resolve. It’s doubtful that many gun owners would hand over their firearms to the federal government while that court challenge is being resolved, but even if the Supreme Court upheld Beto’s ban, compliance would likely be few and far between. Beto’s ban is simply largely unenforceable, at least proactively, without a massive expansion of law enforcement powers, and while the Left loves itself some gun control, it also has major issues with law enforcement these days. So, Beto is left with platitudes.
More at link.
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No Bueno, Beto: Americans Won’t Comply With Your Gun Ban
Bearing Arms September 9, 2019 by Cam Edwards
https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2019/09/09/no-bueno-beto-americans-wont-comply-with-your-gun-ban/ (https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2019/09/09/no-bueno-beto-americans-wont-comply-with-your-gun-ban/)
Beto’s ban is simply largely unenforceable, at least proactively, without a massive expansion of law enforcement powers, and while the Left loves itself some gun control, it also has major issues with law enforcement these days.
That's the irony. The Dems in this scenario would depend on the very LEO's and likely military that they tend to dismiss and trash, if not outright spit on.
Not to mention for example my county of around 35K people and 15K households, we have I think if you count all the city and county cops, maybe 50 bodies to do that task.
Not that anyone is going to embark on that quixotic queeg quest anyway.
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Two questions, where will they store all those firearms and who will guard them?
second what will they do with people that own 3D printers or that have machine shop experience and can build firearms?
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Two questions, where will they store all those firearms and who will guard them?
second what will they do with people that own 3D printers or that have machine shop experience and can build firearms?
That kind of machinery will be seized and destroyed with no compensation to the owner.
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Here is what they are really after folks:
"... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any
government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one MAKES them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
......just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted -- and you create a nation of law-breakers -- and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."
- p.411,
Ayn Rand, ATLAS SHRUGGED, Signet Books, NY, 1957
The book was written as WARNING but has become one of their guidebooks!
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Two questions, where will they store all those firearms and who will guard them?
second what will they do with people that own 3D printers or that have machine shop experience and can build firearms?
They will do what all dictatorships do with the weapons they confiscate. They will redistribute them to sanctioned government officials. The new Brownshirts (Antifa), IRS, Homeland Security, Bureau of Land Management, and a new Government run Police Force, which they will establish to replace all local and State Police. That last item has already been discussed under Holder/Obama. So, the government will confiscate weapons and then use those same weapons against the people from whom they were confiscated. Irony at its worst.
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Video at link
Rock N Roll Party In The Streets (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiG8Jnd8cnkAhXRN30KHTbsAxQQ3ywwAHoECAgQBA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DsQdWK041Vuo&usg=AOvVaw1kcZcV-ijZP_SsHB0su83L)
I know, you know this ain't gonna last forever
Let's take advantage while we still can
I'm sure that you'll find the days couldn't get any longer
Day after day it's gettin' old fast
Let's have a knock down, drag out rock 'n' roll party in the streets
Get all the boys together have them tell everybody that they meet
Friday night at midnight we're all gonna get what we need
Let's have a knock down, drag out rock 'n' roll party in the streets
You know, I know we ain't gonna show no mercy
To anyone that tries to get in our way
I'm sure that you'll find we got to put the word out for certain
Once the party gets started we're all here to stay
Let's have a knock down, drag out rock 'n' roll party in the streets
Get all the boys together have them tell everybody that they meet
Friday night at midnight we're all gonna get what we need
Let's have a knock down, drag out rock 'n' roll party in the streets
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This idiot actually thinks we're just gonna smile and happily give our guns over to the Federal government. :silly:
This idiot also thinks that he's going to be the Prez!
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This idiot also thinks that he's going to be the Prez!
"thinks" is giving him WAY too much credit.
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I just wish people would stop calling Paddy anything but Robert Francis.
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Dumbest thing a Texan has ever said.