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Title: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: rangerrebew on July 30, 2020, 02:06:25 pm: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
City official says feds owed $192,000 as of Monday
By Sam Dorman | Fox News

Fox News was given a behind the scenes look at the federal agents who are defending the building; national correspondent William La Jeunesse reports.

The city of Portland, Ore. is fining the federal government $500 for every 15 minutes it maintains unpermitted fencing outside of the federal courthouse that has faced nightly attacks amid ongoing protests and rioting.

City Commissioner Chloe Eudaly said in a statement Tuesday that the fencing is obstructing the street outside of the courthouse. As of Monday, she said, the federal government owed Portland $192,000.

"We intend to collect," said Eudaly, who added that she was "committed to doing everything in my power to end this federal occupation and move forward with our community's reckoning with racial injustice and our efforts to transform our approach to policing and public safety."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/portland-maximum-fines-federal-government-fence-courthouse (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/portland-maximum-fines-federal-government-fence-courthouse)
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: rangerrebew on July 30, 2020, 02:08:22 pm: If Trump is re-elected, this mayor stands to lose more than $500 every 15 minutes. :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: Stevensr123 on July 30, 2020, 02:16:56 pm: Bit weird people are defending this, at the same time they are against big government, HYPOCRISY
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: verga on July 30, 2020, 02:24:05 pm: Seems like it is on federal property, not city property.
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: skeeter on July 30, 2020, 02:26:15 pm: Quote from: Stevensr123 on July 30, 2020, 02:16:56 pm
Bit weird people are defending this, at the same time they are against big government, HYPOCRISY

Defending what - feds protecting federal property?
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: Stevensr123 on July 30, 2020, 02:32:00 pm: Quote from: skeeter on July 30, 2020, 02:26:15 pm
Defending what - feds protecting federal property?
the fence is blocking the stats property bike lane, that isnâ€™t federal property, hence why the city is charging them.
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: AL on July 30, 2020, 02:44:27 pm: OMG, the snowflake lane for bikes is cut off. How can they cope. Maybe they need armed federal troops in town to take care of their mess, then again if Portland were to burn to ashes who'd care.
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: skeeter on July 30, 2020, 02:48:00 pm: Quote from: Stevensr123 on July 30, 2020, 02:32:00 pm
the fence is blocking the stats property bike lane, that isnâ€™t federal property, hence why the city is charging them.

I'm no hypocrite. I'm totally against Big Government blocking bike lanes.
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: goatprairie on July 30, 2020, 09:39:56 pm: Quote from: rangerrebew on July 30, 2020, 02:08:22 pm
If Trump is re-elected, this mayor stands to lose more than $500 every 15 minutes. :thumbsdown:
I'd be satisfied to see the mayor and the other leftist clowns in charge hauled away in chains to Leavenworth.
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: goatprairie on July 30, 2020, 09:41:44 pm: Quote from: skeeter on July 30, 2020, 02:48:00 pm
I'm no hypocrite. I'm totally against Big Government blocking bike lanes.
Me too. I am totally against bike lanes being blocked, and I will not have it in my house. 22222frying pan
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: LegalAmerican on July 30, 2020, 09:52:44 pm: Quote from: goatprairie on July 30, 2020, 09:39:56 pm
I'd be satisfied to see the mayor and the other leftist clowns in charge hauled away in chains to Leavenworth.

DITTO. Most demon-rats need a STRAIGHT JACKET, to be hauled away with! BTW. Each state receives FEDERAL FUNDS for their budget, from our 1040 taxes. Also ,schools are funded by federal funds. I think, 1,000 per child. Guess who won't be getting ANY? DEMON-RAT CLOWNS! Try to 'collect'. That money comes from all of us in all states!
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: rustynail on July 30, 2020, 10:08:16 pm: Remove the fence. Park tanks.
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: LegalAmerican on July 31, 2020, 12:17:27 am: Quote from: rustynail on July 30, 2020, 10:08:16 pm
Remove the fence. Park tanks.

I had to giggle. Yes, facing outward with those 'gun' things facing them! Look at this. BLM, ANTIFA. USING GUNS TO STOP TRAFFIC AND THREATENING CITIZENS. KILLING POLICE. MASS SHOOTINGS. GLOBALIST TAKEOVER.

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Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 31, 2020, 10:15:53 am: Quote from: Stevensr123 on July 30, 2020, 02:32:00 pm
the fence is blocking the stats property bike lane, that isnâ€™t federal property, hence why the city is charging them.
No word about 'protesters' with fire bombs....do they get fined, too?
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: sneakypete on July 31, 2020, 02:23:01 pm: Quote from: AL on July 30, 2020, 02:44:27 pm
OMG, the snowflake lane for bikes is cut off. How can they cope.

@AL

They obviously need to go out and play in the traffic.
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: sneakypete on July 31, 2020, 02:24:26 pm: Quote from: skeeter on July 30, 2020, 02:48:00 pm
I'm no hypocrite. I'm totally against Big Government blocking bike lanes.

@skeeter

Even when it is necessary in order to protect federal property?

I am GUESSING that building was there a long time before the bicycle lanes showed up.
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: skeeter on July 31, 2020, 02:27:03 pm: Quote from: sneakypete on July 31, 2020, 02:24:26 pm
@skeeter

Even when it is necessary in order to protect federal property?

I am GUESSING that building was there a long time before the bicycle lanes showed up.

I agree. Just making fun of Stevie.
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 31, 2020, 02:27:10 pm: So.....If they are de-funding their police, who is going to write the ticket?
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: PeteS in CA on August 06, 2020, 08:05:30 pm: Feds (Shockingly!) Unresponsive to Portland's $2000/Hour Fine for Fence Erected to Protect Courthouse

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/jeff-reynolds/2020/08/06/feds-shockingly-unresponsive-to-portlands-2000-hour-fine-for-fence-erected-to-protect-courthouse-n759102 (https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/jeff-reynolds/2020/08/06/feds-shockingly-unresponsive-to-portlands-2000-hour-fine-for-fence-erected-to-protect-courthouse-n759102)

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Last week, Portland City Council imposed fines on the federal government for the fence surrounding the federal courthouse, which has come under siege by protesters. Portland is collectively upset that the fence, which was erected to ward off violent protesters, is blocking their precious bike lanes. Todayâ€™s update: the fines have hit $584,000, with the feds so far unresponsive.
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 06, 2020, 09:50:57 pm: I suppose a simple, two word reply would be an instance of excessive candor?
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 06, 2020, 10:19:38 pm: Quote from: PeteS in CA on August 06, 2020, 08:05:30 pm
Feds (Shockingly!) Unresponsive to Portland's $2000/Hour Fine for Fence Erected to Protect Courthouse

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/jeff-reynolds/2020/08/06/feds-shockingly-unresponsive-to-portlands-2000-hour-fine-for-fence-erected-to-protect-courthouse-n759102 (https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/jeff-reynolds/2020/08/06/feds-shockingly-unresponsive-to-portlands-2000-hour-fine-for-fence-erected-to-protect-courthouse-n759102)

Let them eat static....
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on August 06, 2020, 10:20:36 pm: Quote from: Stevensr123 on July 30, 2020, 02:16:56 pm
Bit weird people are defending this, at the same time they are against big government, HYPOCRISY

I'm ashamed I used to call myself libertarian. They're worse than the liberals IMO. I piss on their graves.
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 06, 2020, 10:43:45 pm: Amendment VIII

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Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

:tongue2:
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: sneakypete on August 07, 2020, 12:23:18 am: Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 31, 2020, 02:27:10 pm
So.....If they are de-funding their police, who is going to write the ticket?

@Smokin Joe

LOL! Excellent question!

I hope Trump tells them to just take it out of the federal money they will NOT be getting this year.
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: PeteS in CA on October 12, 2020, 10:28:41 pm: An update on this, https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/483450-389879-feds-to-portland-were-not-paying-courthouse-fence-fines

Feds to Portland: We're not paying courthouse fence fines

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The Department of Homeland Security has racked up millions of dollars in fines â€” on paper â€” from two city bureaus irked by the iron barricade wrapped around the city's federal courthouse.

The feds have no intention of paying.

In fact, Homeland Security says the financial penalties imposed by the Portland Bureau of Transportation and Bureau of Environmental Services are unlawful, citing an argument straight from a civics textbook: the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution.

In letters to both bureaus, David A. Hess, an assistant director for the Federal Protective Service, pointed to the clause â€” which says that, in most cases, federal law trumps a conflicting state law.

"The Federal Government is absolutely immune from fines or penalties issued by local governments unless there is a clear waiver of sovereign immunity by Congress," Hess wrote, according to copies of the letters obtained by Pamplin Media. "There has been no such waiver here."
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: jafo2010 on October 14, 2020, 05:10:29 am: I say end all financing to the state of Oregon and city of Portland. F*&^ them!!!
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: sneakypete on October 14, 2020, 06:34:04 am: Quote from: jafo2010 on October 14, 2020, 05:10:29 am
I say end all financing to the state of Oregon and city of Portland. F*&^ them!!!

@jafo2010

:yowsa:
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 14, 2020, 08:28:57 am: Quote from: jafo2010 on October 14, 2020, 05:10:29 am
I say end all financing to the state of Oregon and city of Portland. F*&^ them!!!
pointing-up :yowsa: pointing-up
Title: Re: Portland hits feds with $500 fine every 15 minutes fence stands outside besieged courthouse
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on October 14, 2020, 01:47:28 pm: Just remember: Nancy Pelosi is holding up current legislation as she wants to pay Portland more federal money.