The Briefing Room
General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Chosen Daughter on February 15, 2020, 01:16:14 am
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Roger Stone knows Trump’s secrets. That’s why he’ll avoid prison.
Of course, Stone likely won’t serve his full hitch, because Trump and Barr know that without a pardon Stone will squeal like a rat in a blender, proving that Trump lied to Mueller and about the details of the Trump-Stone-WikiLeaks connections. Stone sure as hell deserves his time in the graybar hotel for reasons of both ordinary and moral justice, and Judge Berman-Jackson has also likely had enough of Stone’s weapons-grade bullshit and may treat the revised DOJ sentencing letter as the political trash it is...…..
https://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2020/02/roger-stone-knows-trumps-secrets-thats-hell-avoid-prison/
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If Roger Stone was a Democrat he would be a free man today.
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BS. If stone knew "Trump's secrets" the Rats would be putting him up at the Ritz in style.
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If Roger Stone was a Democrat he would be a free man today.
Oh, I get you. No criminal should ever do time. That wouldn't be fair. What an argument for anarchy.
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Oh, I get you. No criminal should ever do time. That wouldn't be fair. What an argument for anarchy.
So you agree that Andrew McCabe shouldn't be charged with anything. Good to know.
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So you agree that Andrew McCabe shouldn't be charged with anything. Good to know.
I think all criminals should be charged and serve terms according to their crimes. Which means the set period for the crime. 7-9 years is what the punishment is. Andrew McCabe? Its Trumps DOJ. I think they are making deals.
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I think all criminals should be charged and serve terms according to their crimes. Which means the set period for the crime. 7-9 years is what the punishment is.
No, no, that's the punishment for Trump supporters. What's the punishment for Democrats and other non-Trump supporters?
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No, no, that's the punishment for Trump supporters. What's the punishment for Democrats and other non-Trump supporters?
More BS. Courts have set punishments. McCabe is not going to be charged. Why? Probably because Trumps DOJ is wheeling and dealing for Stone and Flynn.
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No, no, that's the punishment for Trump supporters. What's the punishment for Democrats and other non-Trump supporters?
Trump was acquitted.
Former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich is currently serving a 14-year prison sentence for political corruption. Trump has been talking about pardoning him, saying it was unfair. I guess Trump doesn't like Democrats to serve their terms either.
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I think all criminals should be charged and serve terms according to their crimes. Which means the set period for the crime. 7-9 years is what the punishment is. Andrew McCabe? Its Trumps DOJ. I think they are making deals.
7-9 years is about 2X-3X what people who do that crime usually get. Way out of line.
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Trump was acquitted.
That would be an excellent answer, except that wasn't the question.
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That would be an excellent answer, except that wasn't the question.
Former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich is currently serving a 14-year prison sentence for political corruption. Trump didn't think that was fair either. He liked Blagojevich wife and thinks he should be pardoned.
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7-9 years is about 2X-3X what people who do that crime usually get. Way out of line.
Really? What should be the punishment? What is the normal punishment?
Former Illinois Gov. George Ryan served nearly six years for a 2006 conviction of racketeering, conspiracy, tax fraud and making false statements to the FBI. (Associated Press)
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More BS. Courts have set punishments. McCabe is not going to be charged. Why? Probably because Trumps DOJ is wheeling and dealing for Stone and Flynn.
He's not being charged because he is a Democrat, and Democrats never serve any penalty.
Trump was acquitted.
He never should have been charged, and if he had been a Democrat he wouldn't have been charged.
You can go on pretending that the "Rule of Law" still exists, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that it doesn't. If you're connected to the correct political power structure, or even if you're just rich, you either don't get charged or you get a slap on the wrist. If you're not part of the "It" crowd, you get the book thrown at you.
I'm not saying that's "right". I'm just saying that's the way it is.
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Oh, I get you. No criminal should ever do time. That wouldn't be fair. What an argument for anarchy.
No. McCabe shouldn't do time. Stone should get life. For the same crime. Got it.
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No. McCabe shouldn't do time. Stone should get life. For the same crime. Got it.
Former Illinois Gov. George Ryan served nearly six years for a 2006 conviction of racketeering, conspiracy, tax fraud and making false statements to the FBI. (Associated Press)
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Former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich is currently serving a 14-year prison sentence for political corruption. Trump didn't think that was fair either. He liked Blagojevich wife and thinks he should be pardoned.
I think Blago should be pardoned as what he did was SOP of ALL politicians..
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Former Illinois Gov. George Ryan served nearly six years for a 2006 conviction of racketeering, conspiracy, tax fraud and making false statements to the FBI. (Associated Press)
Ryan was a crook....just about all the politicians in Il are crooks from Chicago on down
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Former New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin was sentenced to 10 years in prison in July 2014 for bribery, money laundering, fraud and tax violations stemming from his two terms as New Orleans' mayor from 2002-2010.
Former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick was sentenced to 28 years in prison for corruption in 2013.
Former U.S. Rep. William Jefferson of Louisiana began serving in 2012 a 13-year sentence for his convictions on corruption charges.
more:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/collection/politicians-in-prison/?page=6 (https://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/collection/politicians-in-prison/?page=6)
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Former Illinois Gov. George Ryan served nearly six years for a 2006 conviction of racketeering, conspiracy, tax fraud and making false statements to the FBI. (Associated Press)
OK. Has nothing to do with my point, but OK.
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Ryan was a crook....just about all the politicians in Il are crooks from Chicago on down
I am sure that he is. Stone is what?
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More BS. Courts have set punishments. McCabe is not going to be charged. Why? Probably because Trumps DOJ is wheeling and dealing for Stone and Flynn.
People only get punished if the case goes to trial, for starters.
Hillary was never charged in the missing e mails, classified information on a private server, etc. etc. etc.
But fail to navigate the rhetorical minefields laid by Democrats who WILL prosecute, and get hauled out of your house in your skivvies by a team as well armed (except maybe the M203s) as many in Iraq, in full battle rattle.
I don't mind prosecuting where that is appropriate, but let's get the full measure of that, shall we?
There is no pretense, even, of Democrats being held to account for more serious and egregious criminal activity.
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Really? What should be the punishment? What is the normal punishment?
Former Illinois Gov. George Ryan served nearly six years for a 2006 conviction of racketeering, conspiracy, tax fraud and making false statements to the FBI. (Associated Press)
Deshowitz said maybe 2 years. It was on another thread...
The fact is, you had no idea, so you cheerfully accepted the whacked request of the Mueller lawyers of 9 years. Nobody get that, unless a rogue prosecutor wants to throw a book at someone because he doesn't like him, or maybe he didn't like a Republican with Richard Nixon tattooed on his back.
People like that just piss corrupt attorneys off, and that's what happened here.
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If Roger Stone was a Democrat he would be a free man today.
So all those folks on Stone's jury were democrats? Where did that information come from?
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So all those folks on Stone's jury were democrats? Where did that information come from?
The trial was in DC....so I'm guessing most were
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So all those folks on Stone's jury were democrats? Where did that information come from?
Many of them were, but that's beside the point. If he had been a Democrat, he never would have been charged. Just ask Andrew McCabe.
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I am sure that he is. Stone is what?
I have no idea what Stone is...if he committed a crime he should pay with a reasonable sentence...
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I have no idea what Stone is...if he committed a crime he should pay with a reasonable sentence...
That's where I am with this, a "reasonable sentence." And I question if this is a "process crime," created solely for Mueller's prosecutors. I honestly, at this point, don't know anymore.
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The trial was in DC....so I'm guessing most were
I have read 3 or 4 court narratives on his case. None had any mention of a Change of Venue. Why didn't he ask if juror political makeup was a concern?
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If Roger Stone was a Democrat he would be a free man today.
If Roger Stone new Hillary's secrets he'd be a dead man today. Just pointing out another difference between Trump and Clinton.
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So you agree that Andrew McCabe shouldn't be charged with anything. Good to know.
Whose fault is that? Who is running the DoJ?
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I am sure that he is. Stone is what?
:raise hand:
A crook and a hypocrite!!!
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IMHO and that is all it is... Roger Stone is a dirtbag that probable did get caught doing stuff... Now the fact that the investigation was probable crooked, the means they used to get evidence was probable illegal, and that the jury and judge was crooked means the criminal system in the US is just a freaking mess. I wouldn't want to be given a trial within 200 miles of DC.
That said, I really don't know the right outcome, but chicken or egg, if the means to obtain the info against Stone was illegal... he probable should walk (and I hope he falls in a hole big enough to drown him). Did I mention I didn't care for him or his type.
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Former New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin was sentenced to 10 years in prison in July 2014 for bribery, money laundering, fraud and tax violations stemming from his two terms as New Orleans' mayor from 2002-2010.
Former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick was sentenced to 28 years in prison for corruption in 2013.
Former U.S. Rep. William Jefferson of Louisiana began serving in 2012 a 13-year sentence for his convictions on corruption charges.
They, Ryan and Blagojevich all were elected officials. That distinction (between them and Stone) may be significant (or not - just making an observation).
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The 24/7 NT fever is hitting once again.
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The 24/7 NT fever is hitting once again.
It's a fever that jumps from faux-gotcha to faux-gotcha to faux-gotcha to faux-gotcha to ......
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It's a fever that jumps from faux-gotcha to faux-gotcha to faux-gotcha to faux-gotcha to ......
I have seen something like that before, with hounds and horses....
Oh, I remember! It was a faux hunt!