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September 13, 2019
Beto’s gift to GOP: ‘Hell yes, we’re going to take your AR-15, your AK-47’
By Thomas Lifson
Last night’s excruciating three-hour Democrat debate generated a number of video clips that will drive GOP turnout and that will come back to haunt the eventual nominee. Nobody but Beto O’Rourke expects him to be the nominee, but he may have done the most to drive Trump voters to the polls and help keep his native Texas in the GOP column.
The days are over of Democrats masquerading that “common sense gun legislation†is all they want.
The crowd loved it. The presidential field’s pandering to the enthusiasm of their far left faction will be their undoing.
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/09/betos_gift_to_gop_hell_yes_were_going_to_take_your_ar15_your_ak47.html (https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/09/betos_gift_to_gop_hell_yes_were_going_to_take_your_ar15_your_ak47.html)
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Thank you, 鼻涕 O'Rourke.
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Paddy is one of the best players on our team but don't tell him I said so!
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Paddy is one of the best players on our team but don't tell him I said so!
This certainly doesn't make selling firearms insurance and registration any easier.
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We reap what we sow.
Millennials and younger generations have been so ill educated, and institutions of higher learning [sic] are corrupted beyond hope.
I don’t see how we will survive the AOC’s and Beto’s of America. There will be a tipping point—and very soon.
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We reap what we sow.
Millennials and younger generations have been so ill educated, and institutions of higher learning [sic] are corrupted beyond hope.
I don’t see how we will survive the AOC’s and Beto’s of America. There will be a tipping point—and very soon.
There are millions and millions of young people out there who don't go for this garbage but are currently not able to speak their minds for fear of retribution but they WILL be heard eventually and no one will miss the roar!
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There are millions and millions of young people out there who don't go for this garbage but are currently not able to speak their minds for fear of retribution but they WILL be heard eventually and no one will miss the roar!
Thanks for reminding me it’s good to be optimistic. Better for the health, too. :beer:
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Thank you, 鼻涕 O'Rourke.
:silly: I use Google Translate frequently at work. Mandarin Chinese is the "first language" of most of my coworkers. :silly: 888high58888
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This certainly doesn't make selling firearms insurance and registration any easier.
:cool:
I saw what you did there.
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:silly: I use Google Translate frequently at work. Mandarin Chinese is the "first language" of most of my coworkers. :silly: 888high58888
The word was close enough-sounding to Beto to pop into my head. Plus it just seems to fit.
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:cool:
I saw what you did there.
... and the salesman is conspicuously absent.
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Wish I owned a gun store today! I'll bet business is brisk.
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It used to be impossible for an immature a**hole like Beetle to have a chance at getting nominated for prez...even for the Dems.
But since Justine Trudeau got elected as Canadian PM, anything is now possible.
I fear for the future.
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His campaign is selling a t-shirt with his quote:
Beto O'Rourke
@BetoORourke
Hell yes, we're going to take your AR-15.
Buy your shirt now: https://store.betoorourke.com/hell-yes-were-going-to-unisex-womens-styles/ (https://store.betoorourke.com/hell-yes-were-going-to-unisex-womens-styles/)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EET_c6FUcAczM7n?format=jpg&name=large)
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His campaign is selling a t-shirt with his quote:
Beto O'Rourke
@BetoORourke
Hell yes, we're going to take your AR-15.
Buy your shirt now: https://store.betoorourke.com/hell-yes-were-going-to-unisex-womens-styles/ (https://store.betoorourke.com/hell-yes-were-going-to-unisex-womens-styles/)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EET_c6FUcAczM7n?format=jpg&name=large)
The line forms to the right. No pushing and shoving allowed. Those who fail to heed the warning will be shot!
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:silly: I use Google Translate frequently at work. Mandarin Chinese is the "first language" of most of my coworkers. :silly: 888high58888
I thought I was the only person to run that through Goggle Translate....
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The skateboarder may have inadvertently put a fork in red flag laws with his reporting Cain to the FBI, especially since RF is the one doing the threatening.
At least I hope so.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/youre-a-child-texas-state-lawmaker-tells-beto-orourke-after-dem-calls-his-twitter-message-a-death-threat (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/youre-a-child-texas-state-lawmaker-tells-beto-orourke-after-dem-calls-his-twitter-message-a-death-threat)
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Howl on Beto, Robert Francis, whatever your danged name is.
COnvince all the gun loving youngsters here that you are the candidate of choice...to reelect Trump.
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Ian Hanchett 13 Sep 2019
On Friday’s “CNN Newsroom,†Senator Chris Coons (D-DE), who has endorsed 2020 Democratic presidential candidate former Vice President Joe Biden, stated that 2020 presidential candidate former Representative Beto O’Rourke’s (D-TX) statement that he will take away certain guns “will be played for years at 2nd Amendment rallies with organizations that try to scare people†and that O’Rourke’s statement isn’t a smart move for policy or politics.
Coons said, “I frankly, think that that clip will be played for years at 2nd Amendment rallies with organizations that try to scare people by saying Democrats are coming for your guns. I’m a gun owner. My sons and I have gone skeet shooting and hunting, and frankly, I don’t think having our presidential candidates, like Congressman O’Rourke did, say that we’re going to try and take people’s guns against their will is a wise, either policy or political move.â€
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https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/09/13/coons-orourke-saying-well-take-guns-will-be-played-for-years-against-democrats/ (https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/09/13/coons-orourke-saying-well-take-guns-will-be-played-for-years-against-democrats/)
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Of course it will. Telling millions of law-abiding citizens who passed a background check and legally purchased guns that they will no longer be allowed to kill other Americans with their guns is absurd and evil. Robert Francis' proclamation is one of the most unAmerican things I've ever heard.
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I'm thinking about ordering one of those tee shirts. If there's anything that shows what an idiot Robert Francis is, it's those shirts.
(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-ji4m1ij20h/images/stencil/500x659/products/182/544/beto_men__05858.1568342156.jpg?c=2&imbypass=on)
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I'm thinking about ordering one of those tee shirts. If there's anything that shows what an idiot Robert Francis is, it's those shirts.
(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-ji4m1ij20h/images/stencil/500x659/products/182/544/beto_men__05858.1568342156.jpg?c=2&imbypass=on)
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I like what @andy58-in-nh posted better.
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I like what @andy58-in-nh posted better.
:yowsa: :beer:
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A commentator this morning said Beto will never be elected to any public office after his latest antics, well, I'd think maybe the El Paso area might still elect him as a local but I do see the point.
Beto's been saying a lot of things for shock value.
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A commentator this morning said Beto will never be elected to any public office after his latest antics, well, I'd think maybe the El Paso area might still elect him as a local but I do see the point.
Beto's been saying a lot of things for shock value.
Please don't go along with the skateboarder's cultural appropriation-use his given name Robert Francis. :tongue2:
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Please don't go along with the skateboarder's cultural appropriation-use his given name Robert Francis. :tongue2:
:yowsa: pointing-up
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Please don't go along with the skateboarder's cultural appropriation-use his given name Robert Francis. :tongue2:
I'm lazy. I just use "Bobby". Brief and diminutive.
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Wish I owned a gun store today! I'll bet business is brisk.
You know it is.
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The skateboarder may have inadvertently put a fork in red flag laws with his reporting Cain to the FBI, especially since RF is the one doing the threatening.
At least I hope so.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/youre-a-child-texas-state-lawmaker-tells-beto-orourke-after-dem-calls-his-twitter-message-a-death-threat (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/youre-a-child-texas-state-lawmaker-tells-beto-orourke-after-dem-calls-his-twitter-message-a-death-threat)
I think so too.
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If these jugheads are truly going to campaign on the "civilians should not have access to 'weapons of war'" argument, then they should be banning semi-automatic pistols from Glock, Beretta, Colt, etc., that are and routinely have been actually issued to the military in large quantities. They are "weapons of war", and should be banned by their logic.
Let's see them defend that to the public.
For that matter, we issue shotguns to our military, so those should be banned for civilian use as well.
Truth is, the entire history of the development of firearms was to develop weapons for war. From the original "hand gonnes", to matchlock rifles, to flintlocks, to Colt's first Paterson revolver, etc., they were all intended to be "weapons of war". Except, bizarrely, the AR's they're trying to ban that were built specifically for non-military use.
The only true value in the "weapons of war" phrase is that it helps us highlight the ignorance of those who use it.
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If these jugheads are truly going to campaign on the "civilians should not have access to 'weapons of war'" argument, then they should be banning semi-automatic pistols from Glock, Beretta, Colt, etc., that are and routinely have been actually issued to the military in large quantities. They are "weapons of war", and should be banned by their logic.
Let's see them defend that to the public.
For that matter, we issue shotguns to our military, so those should be banned for civilian use as well.
Truth is, the entire history of the development of firearms was to develop weapons for war. From the original "hand gonnes", to matchlock rifles, to flintlocks, to Colt's first Paterson revolver, etc., they were all intended to be "weapons of war". Except, bizarrely, the AR's they're trying to ban that were built specifically for non-military use.
The only true value in the "weapons of war" phrase is that it helps us highlight the ignorance of those who use it.
I can't imagine what would happen if the government started confiscation of people's firearms. We would have another Ruby Ridge/Waco Texas in every American neighborhood. Not because of white nationalism or cult but for whatever reason people bought their firearms. They are not going to allow the government to come right in and take them.
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I can't imagine what would happen if the government started confiscation of people's firearms. We would have another Ruby Ridge/Waco Texas in every American neighborhood. Not because of white nationalism or cult but for whatever reason people bought their firearms. They are not going to allow the government to come right in and take them.
They'll have to find Police and Sheriffs willing to risk their necks disarming their friends first. The politicians and their useful idiots don't have the guts.
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They don't have to go door to door. If they know you have them and won't turn them in, they can just do things like arrest you at work or when you're out and about with your family, or sweep your bank accounts, etc.. In other words, we'll never get the heroism/lightning rod of a siege. They'll just ruin our lives otherwise.
The only way to prevent that is to ensure they don't know/can't prove we have them at all.
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They'll have to find Police and Sheriffs willing to risk their necks disarming their friends first. The politicians and their useful idiots don't have the guts.
Right. I don't know why and don't care why people buy AR-15's. But I imagine that many of the owners are law enforcement, military or ex military.
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They don't have to go door to door. If they know you have them and won't turn them in, they can just do things like arrest you at work or when you're out and about with your family, or sweep your bank accounts, etc.. In other words, we'll never get the heroism/lightning rod of a siege. They'll just ruin our lives otherwise.
The only way to prevent that is to ensure they don't know/can't prove we have them at all.
Well that's a good point. And you certainly would have people hiding it, and not buying legally.
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FWIW:
Fact check: Could a President Beto O'Rourke actually confiscate assault weapons?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/14/politics/beto-orourke-assault-guns-confiscation-fact-check/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/14/politics/beto-orourke-assault-guns-confiscation-fact-check/index.html)
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Short answer is NO. He would need congress to pass a law. Bobby did say, "we." I guess he is anticipating the Democrats will retain the house and take control of the senate.
Last I heard, Bobby's campaign was swirling the bowl. His stated confiscation position should all but guarantee his campaign is dead.
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They don't have to go door to door. If they know you have them and won't turn them in, they can just do things like arrest you at work or when you're out and about with your family, or sweep your bank accounts, etc.. In other words, we'll never get the heroism/lightning rod of a siege. They'll just ruin our lives otherwise.
The only way to prevent that is to ensure they don't know/can't prove we have them at all.
And this is why cries for "Reasonable Gun Safety" must be resisted at every turn. Registration is at the top of that grocery list, without which they won't be sure where to look.
Are you listening, @Jazzhead? (Awww, who am I kidding?!)
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I'm lazy. I just use "Bobby". Brief and diminutive.
@PeteS in CA
I understand. I sometimes use RF. Irish Bob, the skateboarder, and the manny are also acceptable. :silly:
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@PeteS in CA
I understand. I sometimes use RF. Irish Bob, the skateboarder, and the manny are also acceptable. :silly:
What??? Not Paddy?
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What??? Not Paddy?
@Bigun
Sure, why not.
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@Bigun
Sure, why not.
I just call him "Beta" because that's the kind of boy he is. :whistle:
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I just call him "Beta" because that's the kind of boy he is. :whistle:
How could I forget that one?
This well-planned stunt and the ready-to-go t-shirts has to be the last reboot of the skateboarders's campaign, please let it be so.
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You know it is.
Walmart picked the wrong time to quit selling handgun ammo. They could have sold out their inventories first.
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If these jugheads are truly going to campaign on the "civilians should not have access to 'weapons of war'" argument, then they should be banning semi-automatic pistols from Glock, Beretta, Colt, etc., that are and routinely have been actually issued to the military in large quantities. They are "weapons of war", and should be banned by their logic.
Let's see them defend that to the public.
For that matter, we issue shotguns to our military, so those should be banned for civilian use as well.
Truth is, the entire history of the development of firearms was to develop weapons for war. From the original "hand gonnes", to matchlock rifles, to flintlocks, to Colt's first Paterson revolver, etc., they were all intended to be "weapons of war". Except, bizarrely, the AR's they're trying to ban that were built specifically for non-military use.
The only true value in the "weapons of war" phrase is that it helps us highlight the ignorance of those who use it.
Not exactly.
"Weapons of war" have included: pistols of every configuration, shotguns, rifles (fully automatic, semi-automatic, bolt action, trapdoor action, falling block, lever action, and muzzleloader), muskets, swords of all descriptions, knives, long sticks with a wide variety of blades and pointy ends, clubs, shovels, rocks tied to sticks and thrown by various means from hands to slings to trebuchet, boiling oil, animal carcasses, and any means to inflict blunt force trauma, flammable liquids, vehicles, construction equipment, just about any thing which comes to hand in mortal combat.
So what is the flavor du jour that this nitwit wants to ban? Will it be the foldover camp shovel you take backpacking next (modeled on the entrenching tool)? How about your hunting and kitchen knives? Maybe the baseball bat in the closet, or the axe in your garage (or pickup). Glass jugs and gasoline with a rag on top?
See, we're just arguing with these fools now.
What they really don't get, despite all their hype about 'battles for whatever' and 'war on this or that', is that we have not yet begun to fight. We're still just talking.
It'd be nice if we can just settle this like civilized folks ("No, you can't just come and take my stuff.", end of discussion, done.).
But then, the basic rule of "If it isn't yours, don't take it." apparently wasn't taught in their sandbox.
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They don't have to go door to door. If they know you have them and won't turn them in, they can just do things like arrest you at work or when you're out and about with your family, or sweep your bank accounts, etc.. In other words, we'll never get the heroism/lightning rod of a siege. They'll just ruin our lives otherwise.
The only way to prevent that is to ensure they don't know/can't prove we have them at all.
What this misses out on is that most gun owners know other gun owners.
Word travels fast, and bad news travels faster. A few might be grabbed unawares, but that would not continue. Even in Paul Revere's day, the word got out.
The news channels generally didn't show the crowd at the bottom of Ruby Ridge, (nor did they mention the machine gun emplacements in the tree line facing that crowd, dirtwork discovered by locals afterwards).
Bundy Ranch was an example of what could happen, without the grim possibilities being realized.
It is best for all if such situations can be avoided, but that does not require capitulation on a fundamental Civil Right.
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How could I forget that one?
This well-planned stunt and the ready-to-go t-shirts has to be the last reboot of the skateboarders's campaign, please let it be so.
Those t-shirts could easily sell heavily if they were being sold by our side. The words are damning, but I guess the Leftists think the slogan is a good one for them.
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There are millions and millions of young people out there who don't go for this garbage but are currently not able to speak their minds for fear of retribution but they WILL be heard eventually and no one will miss the roar!
QFT
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His campaign is selling a t-shirt with his quote:
Beto O'Rourke
@BetoORourke
Hell yes, we're going to take your AR-15.
Buy your shirt now: https://store.betoorourke.com/hell-yes-were-going-to-unisex-womens-styles/ (https://store.betoorourke.com/hell-yes-were-going-to-unisex-womens-styles/)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EET_c6FUcAczM7n?format=jpg&name=large)
I swear (no pun intended) thought this was a gag, but they are really selling them. How stupid is he that he thinks this will drive people to him and the democrats.
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If a President O'Rourke ( :3:) unilaterally declared he was going to start grabbing guns, he would be met with defiance by many leos like those in Washington state who defied some state gov. orders concerning anti-gun measures. The leos said they simply weren't going to enforce the unconstitutional state actions.
I suspect leos in many states would do likewise.
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Upchuck Todd is interviewing Beto right now,and just got through asking (slight parpphrase) "What sort of gun restrictions does the 2nd Amendment ALLOW?"
Since WHEN has the 2nd Amendment ever allowed ANY sort of gun restrictions? Is it possible these fools really ARE so ignorant they don't understand what the words "shall NOT be infringed" mean?
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Upchuck Todd is interviewing Beto right now,and just got through asking (slight parpphrase) "What sort of gun restrictions does the 2nd Amendment ALLOW?"
Since WHEN has the 2nd Amendment ever allowed ANY sort of gun restrictions? Is it possible these fools really ARE so ignorant they don't understand what the words "shall NOT be infringed" mean?
They understand it just fine but know that they cannot take us where they want to take us with that in place.
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There are millions and millions of young people out there who don't go for this garbage but are currently not able to speak their minds for fear of retribution but they WILL be heard eventually and no one will miss the roar!
@Bigun
WRONG! That was true in the 1950's,but the children of the 60's and more recent generations have only heard the gun control argument,and heard it described by EVERYONE in the national media as something that can and SHOULD be legislated.
That is all they have heard since they were toddlers,and they now believe it is the absolute truth and that "gun freaks are lying".
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:silly: I use Google Translate frequently at work. Mandarin Chinese is the "first language" of most of my coworkers. :silly: 888high58888
@PeteS in CA
You can thank the Bush Crime Family for that.
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@Bigun
WRONG! That was true in the 1950's,but the children of the 60's and more recent generations have only heard the gun control argument,and heard it described by EVERYONE in the national media as something that can and SHOULD be legislated.
That is all they have heard since they were toddlers,and they now believe it is the absolute truth and that "gun freaks are lying".
I stand by what I said @sneakypete
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Howl on Beto, Robert Francis, whatever your danged name is.
I think "Beato" is the PC version of "Jerk Off".
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They'll have to find Police and Sheriffs willing to risk their necks disarming their friends first.
@Cyber Liberty
Not really. I personally know cops who became cops because they wanted to be able to legally carry guns everywhere they went. You will NEVER convince these people that gun confiscation laws will ever apply to them or their friends.
The 'murikan left will follow the well-established policies of their Soviet idols,and demand the police leave their guns at the police station when they go off-duty.
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They don't have to go door to door. If they know you have them and won't turn them in, they can just do things like arrest you at work or when you're out and about with your family, or sweep your bank accounts, etc.. In other words, we'll never get the heroism/lightning rod of a siege. They'll just ruin our lives otherwise.
The only way to prevent that is to ensure they don't know/can't prove we have them at all.
@Maj. Bill Martin
That's ONE method to use. Not a winning one IMHO because it is a defacto admission that gun confiscation is permissible.
IMHO,the most effective method to use is to go after them when they announce they will be coming after us.
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Right. I don't know why and don't care why people buy AR-15's.
@Chosen Daughter
I bought mine because our political masters kept talking about making it illegal to buy one. Haven't shot the damn thing in decades,but I do have it,and a case of ammo to go with it.
Truth is when it comes to rifles,I like 7mm and longer,with longer barrels and bolt-actions. Which will IMMEDIATELY be labeled as "sniper rifles" and become the new "weapons of war that MUST be confiscated!" as soon as they finish confiscating the AR-15's.
I have no intention of giving up anything,ever,until I get so old I am put into the State Home for Feebs,and then I will probably give them away to someone younger.
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WATCH: Beto Attempts To Explain Why He Believes Gun Owners Will Comply With Mandatory Buybacks Of AR-15s
Just when we think Beto O'Rourke can't put his foot any further into his mouth, he proves us wrong... again. After saying he would have mandatory buybacks of all AR-15s, O'Rourke doubled down, saying he know people would follow the new law, should it become a reality.
"My confidence is in the people of this country. Go into a gun show in Conway, Arkansas and listening to the owners of AR-15s and the vendors of AR-15s, many of whom, you can imagine, didn't agree with my proposal, but each of whom was willing to at least have the conversation, some of whom said, 'Look, you know what? I have an AR-15. Don't need it. Would gladly sell it back or destroy it,'" O'Rourke told MSNBC's Joy Reid. "All of them seem like they'd follow the law. We are a nation of laws. It's part of what defines us and distinguishes us from the rest of the world."
more w/video
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/09/14/delusional-beto-doubles-down-i-think-gun-owners-will-simply-hand-over-ar-15s-n2553099
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Sorry @mystery-ak but my BS limit for this week has already been exceeded.
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Dear Irish Bob,
The actual date maybe wrong...but you get the general idea, right.
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They'll have to find Police and Sheriffs willing to risk their necks disarming their friends first. The politicians and their useful idiots don't have the guts.
I recently spoke to several Police officers I know about this and asked how willing they would be to enforce these laws. all of them had a variation on "Not a chance in Hell".
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I just call him "Beta" because that's the kind of boy he is. :whistle:
QFT, that is my favorite for the skateboarder poser wannabe.
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I recently spoke to several Police officers I know about this and asked how willing they would be to enforce these laws. all of them had a variation on "Not a chance in Hell".
The local Sheriff here is a very good friend of mine whom I talk to regularly. You should hear what he says about Robert Francis.
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WATCH: Beto Attempts To Explain Why He Believes Gun Owners Will Comply With Mandatory Buybacks Of AR-15s
Just when we think Beto O'Rourke can't put his foot any further into his mouth, he proves us wrong... again. After saying he would have mandatory buybacks of all AR-15s, O'Rourke doubled down, saying he know people would follow the new law, should it become a reality.
"My confidence is in the people of this country. Go into a gun show in Conway, Arkansas and listening to the owners of AR-15s and the vendors of AR-15s, many of whom, you can imagine, didn't agree with my proposal, but each of whom was willing to at least have the conversation, some of whom said, 'Look, you know what? I have an AR-15. Don't need it. Would gladly sell it back or destroy it,'" O'Rourke told MSNBC's Joy Reid. "All of them seem like they'd follow the law. We are a nation of laws. It's part of what defines us and distinguishes us from the rest of the world."
more w/video
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/09/14/delusional-beto-doubles-down-i-think-gun-owners-will-simply-hand-over-ar-15s-n2553099
If people "followed the law" the way Gringo thinks they will with his gun grab...there would be no need for prisons because there'd be no crime because..."everyone followed the law."
*****rollingeyes*****
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WATCH: Beto Attempts To Explain Why He Believes Gun Owners Will Comply With Mandatory Buybacks Of AR-15s
Just when we think Beto O'Rourke can't put his foot any further into his mouth, he proves us wrong... again. After saying he would have mandatory buybacks of all AR-15s, O'Rourke doubled down, saying he know people would follow the new law, should it become a reality.
"My confidence is in the people of this country. Go into a gun show in Conway, Arkansas and listening to the owners of AR-15s and the vendors of AR-15s, many of whom, you can imagine, didn't agree with my proposal, but each of whom was willing to at least have the conversation, some of whom said, 'Look, you know what? I have an AR-15. Don't need it. Would gladly sell it back or destroy it,'" O'Rourke told MSNBC's Joy Reid. "All of them seem like they'd follow the law. We are a nation of laws. It's part of what defines us and distinguishes us from the rest of the world."
more w/video
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/09/14/delusional-beto-doubles-down-i-think-gun-owners-will-simply-hand-over-ar-15s-n2553099
It is said that someone as young as him is suffering from dementia.
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@PeteS in CA
You can thank the Bush Crime Family for that.
My employer is a US company founded during the Reagan Administration by a Taiwanese immigrant. Mandarin is the national language of Taiwan, and most of my coworkers are Taiwanese, though some are the children or grandchildren of Mandarin-speaking Chinese who fled to Malaysia during the 1930s Japanese invasion of China.
Maybe you should try that BFEE shtick on DU. DU-folk care less about facts.
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My employer is a US company founded during the Reagan Administration by a Taiwanese immigrant. Mandarin is the national language of Taiwan, and most of my coworkers are Taiwanese, though some are the children or grandchildren of Mandarin-speaking Chinese who fled to Malaysia during the 1930s Japanese invasion of China.
Maybe you should try that BFEE shtick on DU. DU-folk care less about facts.
Oh that's just a taste of how deep Pete's BFEE tinfoil runs.
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Dear Irish Bob,
The actual date maybe wrong...but you get the general idea, right.
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Lexington and Concord were fought in 1775, the result of a British attempt to seize guns and some leaders of the revolution that began with those battles.
I recently spoke to several Police officers I know about this and asked how willing they would be to enforce these laws. all of them had a variation on "Not a chance in Hell".
This or last year there were a number of sheriffs in rural counties in Washington who stated publicly that they would not enforce a recently passed gun-grabbing law. The tighter the gun-grabbers squeeze the more they'll find law enforcement officer who will resist their grabs.
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WATCH: Beto Attempts To Explain Why He Believes Gun Owners Will Comply With Mandatory Buybacks Of AR-15s
Just when we think Beto O'Rourke can't put his foot any further into his mouth, he proves us wrong... again. After saying he would have mandatory buybacks of all AR-15s, O'Rourke doubled down, saying he know people would follow the new law, should it become a reality.
"My confidence is in the people of this country. Go into a gun show in Conway, Arkansas and listening to the owners of AR-15s and the vendors of AR-15s, many of whom, you can imagine, didn't agree with my proposal, but each of whom was willing to at least have the conversation, some of whom said, 'Look, you know what? I have an AR-15. Don't need it. Would gladly sell it back or destroy it,'" O'Rourke told MSNBC's Joy Reid. "All of them seem like they'd follow the law. We are a nation of laws. It's part of what defines us and distinguishes us from the rest of the world."
more w/video
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/09/14/delusional-beto-doubles-down-i-think-gun-owners-will-simply-hand-over-ar-15s-n2553099
@mystery-ak
IMNSHO,Bob knows he has not one single chance in hell of being elected,and is busy promoting this stuff while he has the attention of TV cameras so the organization he is putting together will be in a position to take donations shortly after the elections end.
Bob is going into the PR biz.
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My employer is a US company founded during the Reagan Administration by a Taiwanese immigrant. Mandarin is the national language of Taiwan, and most of my coworkers are Taiwanese, though some are the children or grandchildren of Mandarin-speaking Chinese who fled to Malaysia during the 1930s Japanese invasion of China.
Maybe you should try that BFEE shtick on DU. DU-folk care less about facts.
@PeteS in CA
Yeah,causen the Chinese in Taiwan have NOTHING in common with the Chinese in China,huh?
<insult removed>
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Oh that's just a taste of how deep Pete's BFEE tinfoil runs.
@txradioguy
<Insult Removed>
How much time have you spend living in Asia,bubba?
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@txradioguy
<Insult Removed>
How much time have you spend living in Asia,bubba?
@PeteS in CA hit the nail on the head. There's only one person outside of DU I've ever seen use the terminology you do when talking about the Bush's...Reagan...Ted Cruz or anyone who is Conservative and not named Trump...and that's you. All the little childish pet names you use for those people...come straight from DemocratUnderground.com
And when you start on it...everyone here for the most part just goes... *****rollingeyes*****
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@PeteS in CA hit the nail on the head. There's only one person outside of DU I've ever seen use the terminology you do when talking about the Bush's...Reagan...Ted Cruz or anyone who is Conservative and not named Trump...and that's you. All the little childish pet names you use for those people...come straight from DemocratUnderground.com
And when you start on it...everyone here for the most part just goes... *****rollingeyes*****
@txradioguy
HorseHillary! There is and NEVER HAS BEEN anything even remotely conservative about the Bush Crime Family,and Cruz seems to be about 50 percent conservative. He sometimes SOUNDS good,but there just seems to be a "greasy weasel" factor to his personality. He is from Texas though,so you will blindly support him.
You just threw Reagans name in there to try to give a little credibility to your brain fart. Find a post by me critical of Reagan. Go ahead.
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@txradioguy
HorseHillary! There is and NEVER HAS BEEN anything even remotely conservative about the Bush Crime Family,and Cruz seems to be about 50 percent conservative. He sometimes SOUNDS good,but there just seems to be a "greasy weasel" factor to his personality. He is from Texas though,so you will blindly support him.
You just threw Reagans name in there to try to give a little credibility to your brain fart. Find a post by me critical of Reagan. Go ahead.
Here's an idea. How about you find your way back to the subject of this thread...Beto coming for our weapons and being proud of it...instead of turning it into one of your normal tinfoil hat dumpster fires.
Think you can do that?
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Here's an idea. How about you find your way back to the subject of this thread...Beto coming for our weapons and being proud of it...instead of turning it into one of your normal tinfoil hat dumpster fires.
Think you can do that?
@txradioguy
A better question might be "Can you pull yourself away from your Cruze Shrine long enough to see reality?". Seems like the fumes from the candles are making you giddy.
After all,CRUZ appeared on tv to push HIS gun control bill on a tv show that was talking about Beto. He did this without my urging.
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Those t-shirts could easily sell heavily if they were being sold by our side. The words are damning, but I guess the Leftists think the slogan is a good one for them.
There ought to be large banners made with that quote to hang up at every gun show.
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@txradioguy
A better question might be "Can you pull yourself away from your Cruze Shrine long enough to see reality?". Seems like the fumes from the candles are making you giddy.
After all,CRUZ appeared on tv to push HIS gun control bill on a tv show that was talking about Beto. He did this without my urging.
I wonder @sneakypete , whether your unwavering support of Tumpy the Clown will change when he signs yet another bill against the R2KBA...
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Those t-shirts could easily sell heavily if they were being sold by our side. The words are damning, but I guess the Leftists think the slogan is a good one for them.
Maybe WE should sell these:
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Maybe WE should sell these:
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Circular firing squad comes to mind.
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I wonder @sneakypete , whether your unwavering support of Tumpy the Clown will change when he signs yet another bill against the R2KBA...
@roamer_1
"Another"? I don't remember him signing one yet,never mind butting it to someone else's gun control rant to suggest his is better.
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@roamer_1
"Another"? I don't remember him signing one yet,never mind butting it to someone else's gun control rant to suggest his is better.
@sneakypete
Bump stock ban?
I should have known you were here causing trouble again. LOL
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@sneakypete
Bump stock ban?
I should have known you were here causing trouble again. LOL
@Applewood
I understand how ignorant gun-grabbers could think banning a useless piece of crap like a bump stock might think that is gun control,but for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone else would get worked up over it. I am tempted to say it's like banning slings,but slings are very useful.
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@Applewood
I understand how ignorant gun-grabbers could think banning a useless piece of crap like a bump stock might think that is gun control,but for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone else would get worked up over it. I am tempted to say it's like banning slings,but slings are very useful.
Allegedly, the Las Vegas shooter used a bump stock, so I don't know that the device is all that useless.
But anyway, my thought is that if Trump would sign the bump stock ban into law, perhaps he would also sign off on any other gun control/confiscation legislation that comes across his desk. I can't trust him to do the right thing.
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Allegedly, the Las Vegas shooter used a bump stock, so I don't know that the device is all that useless.
But anyway, my thought is that if Trump would sign the bump stock ban into law, perhaps he would also sign off on any other gun control/confiscation legislation that comes across his desk. I can't trust him to do the right thing.
Could have accomplished the same thing with a rubber band if he knew what he was doing so banning bump stocks was an entirely useless exercise and an unconstitutional taking of property IMHO.
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Allegedly, the Las Vegas shooter used a bump stock, so I don't know that the device is all that useless.
But anyway, my thought is that if Trump would sign the bump stock ban into law, perhaps he would also sign off on any other gun control/confiscation legislation that comes across his desk. I can't trust him to do the right thing.
Wasn't the "bump stock ban" an EO?
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Wasn't the "bump stock ban" an EO?
Nope! Just the "clarification" of existing regulation by the ATF.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1120876/download (https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1120876/download)
But it's STILL an illegal taking IMHO and if I owned one the suit would already be filed.
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Wasn't the "bump stock ban" an EO?
Nope...it's an actual federal regulation. Passed with the full throated support of the NRA no less.
Another reason why they won't get another dime from me.
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Nope...it's an actual federal regulation. Passed with the full throated support of the NRA no less.
Another reason why they won't get another dime from me.
Welcome to the club! Gave them back a life membership about 25 years ago and happily with GOA ever since.
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@PeteS in CA
Yeah,causen the Chinese in Taiwan have NOTHING in common with the Chinese in China,huh?
<insult removed>
The island of Taiwan has never been ruled by the Communist government, breaking away in late 1949 when Mao's revolution succeeded. From April, 1895 through October 1945, Taiwan was ruled by Japan. Are you going to keep digging?
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Nope! Just the "clarification" of existing regulation by the ATF.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1120876/download (https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1120876/download)
But it's STILL an illegal taking IMHO and if I owned one the suit would already be filed.
Hardly. The Obama Administration approved the bump stocks before they went into market, as not being a machine gun or machine gun part. It took a Republican Administration to pull that little bit of gun control. I don't give a flying sh*t what they say. The stock does not change the mechanics of the action, it is not a machine gun, not fully automatic just because someone put a bump stock on the rifle. It still requires one pull of the trigger for each shot.
Playing fast and loose with words is a dangerous thing to do with law, kinda like Roberts waving his magic wand over the American Rump and turning a penalty into a tax.
And yes, it is an illegal taking... but the reality is that no one knows how many of those sold have been turned in or destroyed apart from a couple of conspicuously destroyed inventories of warehoused products. For all we know, the compliance rate may even be lower than the Canadian Long Gun Registry.
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@Applewood
I understand how ignorant gun-grabbers could think banning a useless piece of crap like a bump stock might think that is gun control,but for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone else would get worked up over it. I am tempted to say it's like banning slings,but slings are very useful.
@sneakypete
It certainly is gun control, and a precedent toward banning semi-autos as the next step... Anything that can be turned "full-auto" by a bump stock is the obvious objective, not the bump stock itself.
And I agree btw, about the useless nature of a bump stock. And the law outlawing them. Any redneck boy of a certain age has made one from a rubber band and a popsicle stick, and understands exactly how poor a device it is. Basically a fun party trick.
But all of that is beside the point and evading the question.
If Tumpy goes ahead, as he has said, with more 'sensible' gun legislation and/or red flag laws, will he still have your unwavering support? Or will you justify that too, waiving it off like you have the bump stock ban?
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@sneakypete
It certainly is gun control, and a precedent toward banning semi-autos as the next step... Anything that can be turned "full-auto" by a bump stock is the obvious objective, not the bump stock itself.
Pretty much any semi-auto can be made to fire full-auto,or will do it all by itself if certain parts are worn or modified,and buttstocks are not necessary to fire a rifle or shotgun. Granted,if you hit what you want to hit it will be accidental,but they can still be fired.
And I agree btw, about the useless nature of a bump stock.
@roamer_1
I put them in the same category as 26 inch spinner wheels on cars. I would slap anybody that put one on any of my long guns.
Any redneck boy of a certain age has made one from a rubber band and a popsicle stick,
I dunno about that,but I made a zip gun out of a car antenna,a block of wood,a nail,and rubber from a bicycle inner tube. I wouldn't call it accurate in ANY sense of the word,but it would shoot. IIRC,I was around 8 years old at the time,and a wannabe juvenile delinquent.
But all of that is beside the point and evading the question.
Not really. Only fools would want one,and truth to tell,I think if somebody is going to shoot at me,I would rather they were using a bump stock than the original stock. There is an excellent chance they would miss while emptying their rifle,leaving me plenty of time to blow them away with whatever I happened to be carrying.
MY personal preference in rifles is something in bolt action with a barrel at least 26 inches long,thick,and chambered for something like a 300 H&H Magnum. You can always load down,but there is a limit to how far you can load up. Even then if it won't shoot less than 1 inch groups at 100 yards I have no interest in keeping it. I have no use or interest in any firearm that isn't accurate.
If Tumpy goes ahead, as he has said, with more 'sensible' gun legislation and/or red flag laws, will he still have your unwavering support? Or will you justify that too, waiving it off like you have the bump stock ban?
Get real. There is nothing Trump loves more than the sound of his own voice when he is talking about himself and confusing his opponents. It is my OPINION that once again he is throwing a little red meat at the Dims in the hope of confusing him,and was basically just bleeping with them.
And truthfully,I don't give a rabid rats ass if he does sign a law banning bump stocks. Every try to shoot a duck flying by with a 3 inch mag A5 Browning while standing on the seat in a duck blind,and had the SOB go full-auto on you when you pulled the trigger? I think I was 16 years old and about 130 lbs at the time. Later in life as an adult gunsmith I have had to point more than one supposedly semi-auto rifle or shotgun in a 55 gallon barrel filled with sand to test fire it to see if I had fixed it so it didn't go full-auto anymore. Imagine the angle you are shooting from that leaves you with mostly the toe of the buttstock digging into your shoulder when the SOB goes off. "Hate" is probably not a strong enough word for how I feel about that crap.
Once again,I put bump stocks in the same category as chrome tires. They are NOT guns,and they are not even a vital part of a gun. You can take the butt stock off and still shoot the guns,and probably shoot them more accurately than you could with a bump stock on it.
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@sneakypete
Since we are in full agreement wrt bump stocks, and since I very well understand how easily a semi-auto can be caused to unload by way of continuous fire, we can stop farting around. My question remains unanswered.
Will Tumpy continue to have your unwavering support IF HE DOES IN FACT sign more gun control or red flag laws?
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@sneakypete
Will Tumpy continue to have your unwavering support IF HE DOES IN FACT sign more gun control or red flag laws?
@roamer_1
MORE? He hasn't singed ANY gun control laws yet,and I don't know what red flag laws are.
Now,if the question is "Will I continue to support him if he supports or suggests any new real gun control laws,the answer is "no".
Will I support him if he signs some sort of "fringe" law related to gun control that is presented to him to sign after Congress votes it up,the answer is "probably". It all depends on the situation. Will refusing to vote for him and encouraging others to not vote for him be a wise thing to do if his defeat would mean Beato or some other Dim gets elected? If it would,I would still vote for him as the lesser of two evils. If he has a primary challenger for the Republican nomination that isn't nuts and has a chance of winning the general election,I would vote for the challenger. If the challenger loses leaving a choice between Trump and Beato,Hillary,Slow Joe,etc,etc,etc,I would vote for Trump as the lesser of two evils. I don't believe in cutting off my nose to spite my face.
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@roamer_1
MORE? He hasn't singed ANY gun control laws yet,and I don't know what red flag laws are.
Now,if the question is "Will I continue to support him if he supports or suggests any new real gun control laws,the answer is "no".
Will I support him if he signs some sort of "fringe" law related to gun control that is presented to him to sign after Congress votes it up,the answer is "probably". It all depends on the situation. Will refusing to vote for him and encouraging others to not vote for him be a wise thing to do if his defeat would mean Beato or some other Dim gets elected? If it would,I would still vote for him as the lesser of two evils. If he has a primary challenger for the Republican nomination that isn't nuts and has a chance of winning the general election,I would vote for the challenger. If the challenger loses leaving a choice between Trump and Beato,Hillary,Slow Joe,etc,etc,etc,I would vote for Trump as the lesser of two evils. I don't believe in cutting off my nose to spite my face.
Well, @sneakypete , it's good to know you have a limit. wherever that is.Until you hit it, I guess you can keep justifying everything as 'better than democrats'.
I however will not.
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Well, @sneakypete , it's good to know you have a limit. wherever that is.Until you hit it, I guess you can keep justifying everything as 'better than democrats'.
I however will not.
@roamer_1
Then you are a petulant fool who is putting the chip on your shoulder above the survival of the nation in importance.
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@roamer_1
Then you are a petulant fool who is putting the chip on your shoulder above the survival of the nation in importance.
@sneakypete
Naw, just a man driven by principle, knowing right from wrong. This nation's survival means nothing, or even less, if it is to survive in infamy.
But in repentance and return, well that is a different story. That is the only part I am interested in. That is the part worth saving.
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All I can say is that Cruz must have campaigned very little for this smuck to do as well as he did in the senate race. Everything out of his ur hole is nonsense that 9 out of 10 Americans would find offensive. And in TX, I would think the same. Perhaps Soros tried to fix the election there, since he owns the companies that tabulates the vote in EVERY election in the USA and Europe!
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All I can say is that Cruz must have campaigned very little for this smuck to do as well as he did in the senate race. Everything out of his ur hole is nonsense that 9 out of 10 Americans would find offensive. And in TX, I would think the same. Perhaps Soros tried to fix the election there, since he owns the companies that tabulates the vote in EVERY election in the USA and Europe!
Cruz campaigned very hard, but IMHO, he waited a bit too long to do so.
Texas has many, many refugees from other locations who live here now, and in standard human fashion they tend to try to recreate what they left in their new residence. We are trying to keep them from being successful obviously.
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Awesome!!! :silly:
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That made me lol!!! Maybe because he might say it. :laugh:
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Yep!
Awesome.