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Title: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: mystery-ak on January 12, 2021, 11:31:51 pm
Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
By Juliegrace Brufke - 01/12/21 05:47 PM EST

House Republican Conference Chair Liz Cheney (Wyo.), the No. 3 Republican in the House, announced Tuesday that she plans to vote to impeach President Trump for inciting a violent mob at the Capitol last week.

Cheney is the first member of House GOP leadership to announce their support for impeachment, breaking with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) on the matter. Cheney told members on a conference call on Monday evening she felt it was a "vote of conscience," according to one source familiar with her remarks.

"On January 6, 2021 a violent mob attacked the United States Capitol to obstruct the process of our democracy and stop the counting of presidential electoral votes. This insurrection caused injury, death and destruction in the most sacred space in our Republic," she said in a statement on Tuesday.

"Much more will become clear in coming days and weeks, but what we know now is enough. The President of the United States summoned this mob, assembled the mob, and lit the flame of this attack. Everything that followed was his doing. None of this would have happened without the President. The President could have immediately and forcefully intervened to stop the violence. He did not. There has never been a greater betrayal by a President of the United States of his office and his oath to the Constitution.

"I will vote to impeach the President."

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/533926-cheney-says-shell-vote-to-impeach-trump
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: dfwgator on January 12, 2021, 11:33:53 pm
Another one to primary out.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Jazzhead on January 12, 2021, 11:36:44 pm
This could all be avoided if the man would just resign.   Responsible Republicans should be urging that route rather than impeachment.   
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: BassWrangler on January 12, 2021, 11:37:12 pm
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Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: skeeter on January 12, 2021, 11:40:54 pm
This could all be avoided if the man would just resign.   Responsible Republicans should be urging that route rather than impeachment.
Why should he resign? He’s got another 8 days.

Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: sneakypete on January 12, 2021, 11:40:58 pm
Wyoming voters need to toss that bitch out on her ass come the next election.

Providing of course that such a thing is possible. It may be illegal to vote for Republicans come the next election,and chances are she will be running for re-election as a Dim by then.

Ya really got to give the Dims high points for dedication once they started the active part of their revolution. They have not only refused to back away from it for an inch,they have doubled down.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: dfwgator on January 12, 2021, 11:42:14 pm
This could all be avoided if the man would just resign.   Responsible Republicans should be urging that route rather than impeachment.

Nice try.   Most likely Trump would lose his base if he did that.  A base that for the most part is sticking with him, despite what the media says.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: dfwgator on January 12, 2021, 11:43:14 pm
Wyoming voters need to toss that bitch out on her ass come the next election.

Providing of course that such a thing is possible. It may be illegal to vote for Republicans come the next election.

No, by then the Republicans will just be a token Party, used by the Democrats as their cover, and provide the illusion of a choice.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: skeeter on January 12, 2021, 11:44:36 pm
Nice try.   Most likely Trump would lose his base if he did that.  A base that for the most part is sticking with him, despite what the media says.
The recent insanity just gives Trump’s base more resolve to support him.

Calls for him to resign or be impeached are truly deranged in the clinical sense.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: mountaineer on January 12, 2021, 11:45:06 pm
This could all be avoided if the man would just resign.   Responsible Republicans should be urging that route rather than impeachment.
Resign with 8 days left on his employment contract. Sure.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Hoodat on January 12, 2021, 11:48:37 pm
What evidence does Cheney have that Trump incited a violent mob?
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: sneakypete on January 12, 2021, 11:49:31 pm
No, by then the Republicans will just be a token Party, used by the Democrats as their cover, and provide the illusion of a choice.

@dfwgator

If/when that happens,it will be THE sign that the time for peaceful protests are over,and the time to pick up your rifles and go into politics has arrived.

AND......,IF any of you decide to do that,you need to accept and understand there are no half-steps. Even if you are unarmed and just attending a protest,you will be named as an enemy of the state,and will have federal arrest warrants issued for your arrest.

We MUST accept the FACT that the left is NOT playing and is NOT taking half-steps,here. They are going for the total take-over of the nation by a ruling party,namely them. IF we ALLOW them to do this,individual freedoms will be history forever as the world unites under a One World Government composed of Masters and Serfs.

Guess who the Serfs will be.

If you guess yourselves and your children,grandchildren,great-grandchildren,etc,etc,etc,you are correct.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: dfwgator on January 12, 2021, 11:50:18 pm
The recent insanity just gives Trump’s base more resolve to support him.

Calls for him to resign or be impeached are truly deranged in the clinical sense.

My advice to Trump is to lay low for a few months, stay out of the limelight, and wait for the disasters that are surely to come with the Biden Administration.   Trump will start looking pretty good again.  I should sell bumperstickers that say, "If I knew it would be like this, I would have voted for Trump".
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Jazzhead on January 12, 2021, 11:50:30 pm
Resign with 8 days left on his employment contract. Sure.

It's better than impeachment or removal by the 25th amendment.   It's the best of several bad options, including from Trump's perspective.   Couple it with a self-pardon as a quid pro quo.   
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: sneakypete on January 12, 2021, 11:52:06 pm
What evidence does Cheney have that Trump incited a violent mob?

@Hoodat

The receipt for the offshore bank account deposit has been verified.

Like all the other whores,she is for sale to the highest bidder,and in this case the "price" includes being a member of the ruling class,exempt from the laws.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Jazzhead on January 12, 2021, 11:52:09 pm
No, by then the Republicans will just be a token Party, used by the Democrats as their cover, and provide the illusion of a choice.

That's how it's done in Philadelphia. 
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Jazzhead on January 12, 2021, 11:54:11 pm
What evidence does Cheney have that Trump incited a violent mob?

Why did this crowd turn violent when others didn't?  Where did the incitement come from?   
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: skeeter on January 12, 2021, 11:54:24 pm
What evidence does Cheney have that Trump incited a violent mob?
You believe all accusations are now supposed to be accompanied by actionable, hard evidence that will stand up in court, but ‘taint so. Only some accusations.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: sneakypete on January 12, 2021, 11:55:02 pm
It's better than impeachment or removal by the 25th amendment.   It's the best of several bad options, including from Trump's perspective.   Couple it with a self-pardon as a quid pro quo.   

@Jazzhead

Your ancestors HAD to have came from France. The French invented "surrender monkeys".
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Jazzhead on January 12, 2021, 11:55:49 pm
The recent insanity just gives Trump’s base more resolve to support him.

Trump's base will soon be irrelevant if that is true. 
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: mountaineer on January 12, 2021, 11:56:52 pm
It's better than impeachment or removal by the 25th amendment.   It's the best of several bad options, including from Trump's perspective.   Couple it with a self-pardon as a quid pro quo.   
No. No impeachment, no 25th amendment. None of it is justified by the law or the facts.
There's no point to it at all, in fact, except for people like you who are busily engaging in self-gratification of the most disgusting sort.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: mystery-ak on January 12, 2021, 11:56:57 pm
Kinzinger says he'll vote to impeach Trump
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/533937-kinzinger-says-hell-vote-to-impeach-trump
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: mountaineer on January 13, 2021, 12:04:06 am
Catturd â„¢  @catturd2
Liz Cheney would be working at a Burger King if it wasn't for daddy.
6:53 PM · Jan 12, 2021
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: txradioguy on January 13, 2021, 12:05:14 am
This could all be avoided if the man would just resign.   Responsible Republicans should be urging that route rather than impeachment.

He's got 8 days left in office...I know you Libs hate him that deeply but c'mon man.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: txradioguy on January 13, 2021, 12:08:21 am
Why did this crowd turn violent when others didn't?  Where did the incitement come from?

If you follow the timeline of events and look at Trump's actual transcript from his remarks...which I know you haven't and never will...there's no way he incited anything.

Besides...if there was a soundbite or audio clip of him saying anything to give those rioters the go ahead...CNN would be playing it 24/7.


You know that...but your baked in intellectual dishonesty won't let you admit it.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: mountaineer on January 13, 2021, 12:09:09 am
He's got 8 days left in office...I know you Libs hate him that deeply but c'mon man.
I believe you meant:
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Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on January 13, 2021, 12:10:34 am
Are we certain this is true or fake news?

What good does it do to impeach a president before he's ready to leave?

Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: txradioguy on January 13, 2021, 12:11:17 am
Are we certain this is true or fake news?

What good does it do to impeach a president before he's ready to leave?

They want to make sure he can never run for office again.  The RINO's and the Dems are scared to death he'll be back in 2024.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: txradioguy on January 13, 2021, 12:11:31 am
I believe you meant:
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Indeed I did.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: catfish1957 on January 13, 2021, 12:12:15 am
Are we certain this is true or fake news?

What good does it do to impeach a president before he's ready to leave?

Considering WY isn't even remotely in play.....   **nononono*
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: mountaineer on January 13, 2021, 12:13:30 am
What good does it do to impeach a president before he's ready to leave?
It doesn't do any good for anyone, but doing good is not high on the Democrats' (DC swamp dwellers like Cheney and McConnell's) list.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Jazzhead on January 13, 2021, 12:14:56 am
Are we certain this is true or fake news?

What good does it do to impeach a president before he's ready to leave?

The apparent idea is to impeach in the House, and then pocket the result until a later date when conviction can be pursued in the Senate.   That's leverage over Trump and his future freedom of action that could be avoided by his resignation. 
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: mountaineer on January 13, 2021, 12:20:46 am
Ami Magazine @Ami_Magazine
Alan Dershowitz to @Ami_Magazine: “The impeachment of Trump is clearly unconstitutional. The speech at the center of the impeachment is constitutionally protected, and it shouldn’t be possible to impeach a president for making a speech that is protected by the First Amendment.
5:24 PM · Jan 12, 2021

Ami Magazine  @Ami_Magazine
“No constitutional scholar will tell you that Trump’s speech violated the principles of Brandenburg v. Ohio, where a Nazi was saying ‘kill the Jews, send the blacks back to Africa.’ The SC said that it was advocacy, not incitement, and the same is true of the president’s speech.”
6:26 PM · Jan 12, 2021·


Full interview with Dershowitz to be posted later tonight at https://www.amimagazine.org/ (https://www.amimagazine.org/)
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 13, 2021, 12:52:06 am
Damn it!  I wish Cheney would stand down.  We don't need her help killing off the GOP!
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 13, 2021, 12:54:25 am
The apparent idea is to impeach in the House, and then pocket the result until a later date when conviction can be pursued in the Senate.   That's leverage over Trump and his future freedom of action that could be avoided by his resignation.

The whole point of impeachment is to remove a president from office so that "leverage" lasts until January 20, 2021 at noon.  The Senate cannot try a private citizen @Jazzhead
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 13, 2021, 12:56:58 am
Why did this crowd turn violent when others didn't?  Where did the incitement come from?

Antifa.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: libertybele on January 13, 2021, 01:00:15 am
Damn it!  I wish Cheney would stand down.  We don't need her help killing off the GOP!

The GOP is going to die ... and her seat will be gone, by either being voted out by patriots or unseated by the DEMS. 
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: 240B on January 13, 2021, 01:06:30 am
The GOP is going to die ... and her seat will be gone, by either being voted out by patriots or unseated by the DEMS.
I agree. However the Dems may keep a few token Romney Democrat type so called 'Republicans' for propaganda purposes.
So they can claim whatever the issue was settled with a "bipartisan" vote. Same as they have always done.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: txradioguy on January 13, 2021, 01:12:49 am
Everyone needs to brush up on the 1969 SCOTUS decision in Brandenburg v Ohio. 
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: HoustonSam on January 13, 2021, 01:28:39 am
The whole point of impeachment is to remove a president from office so that "leverage" lasts until January 20, 2021 at noon.  The Senate cannot try a private citizen @Jazzhead

The only Constitutional penalty for impeachment is removal from office.  Consequently it's unconstitutional to impeach someone who does not hold office, and an attempt to do so could justly be considered a Bill of Attainder.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: libertybele on January 13, 2021, 01:30:51 am
I agree. However the Dems may keep a few token Romney Democrat type so called 'Republicans' for propaganda purposes.
So they can claim whatever the issue was settled with a "bipartisan" vote. Same as they have always done.

I thought about that, but I believe that, that shell game is over and they will dismiss and unseat the RINO's.  They serve no purpose, the electoral process has been violated, we may see Romney join the 'uniparty' that will be ruling.  IF he hasn't seen the writing on the wall, then he's already made backroom deals to be in some kind of power, but if not he's going to be very surprised when they push him aside.

Just my opinion, I hope I am dead wrong.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: libertybele on January 13, 2021, 01:32:38 am
The only Constitutional penalty for impeachment is removal from office.  Consequently it's unconstitutional to impeach someone who does not hold office, and an attempt to do so could justly be considered a Bill of Attainder.

Yes, but I don't see that the left will adhere to the Constitution and Nancy made procedural changes to the House.  I would now assume perhaps House impeachment procedures?
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: txradioguy on January 13, 2021, 01:32:54 am
You know Trump should actually embrace a new round of Impeachment hearings and debate about the 25th Amendment under one condition...he remains in office as President until the entire process has run its course.   Biden can’t take office until due process has run its course.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: skeeter on January 13, 2021, 01:33:00 am
The only Constitutional penalty for impeachment is removal from office.  Consequently it's unconstitutional to impeach someone who does not hold office, and an attempt to do so could justly be considered a Bill of Attainder.
Which is considered unconstitutional.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Fishrrman on January 13, 2021, 01:38:45 am
Egads.

With "Republicans" like this...

What more is there to say...?
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Mesaclone on January 13, 2021, 01:49:41 am
The apparent idea is to impeach in the House, and then pocket the result until a later date when conviction can be pursued in the Senate.   That's leverage over Trump and his future freedom of action that could be avoided by his resignation.

Let's be crystal clear here.

It wasn't Trump that incited the riot, it was the theft of an election by the Left. Those who committed a broad and deep fraud that disenfranchised 75+ million voters, are responsible for this violence. Those who committed the acts are also responsible, and everyone from the President down to the average GOP'r have condemned the actions of those who stormed the Capitol building. But the core truth remains....that this riot was caused by electoral theft and fraud of which there is AMPLE evidence.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: bilo on January 13, 2021, 01:58:45 am
My advice to Trump is to lay low for a few months, stay out of the limelight, and wait for the disasters that are surely to come with the Biden Administration.   Trump will start looking pretty good again.  I should sell bumperstickers that say, "If I knew it would be like this, I would have voted for Trump".

The Rats won't let him. The article of impeachment will go to the new Senate. It will be challenged and then go to the SCOTUS to rule if it is even valid. We know how dependable the SCOTUS is and they will either punt by sending it back to Congress to resolve, or they will rule it's valid. The "trial" will be held in the Rats "sacred" Senate. If McConnell can get the votes Trump will be convicted.

The Pubs will think they won a great victory getting rid of Trump, but they will have ended any hope of their gaining power again.

Where will that leave us? I think where it is going to end up is with the country splitting apart. Boundaries of countries change all the time. Why not here.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: HoustonSam on January 13, 2021, 01:59:02 am
Yes, but I don't see that the left will adhere to the Constitution and Nancy made procedural changes to the House.  I would now assume perhaps House impeachment procedures?

The HoR is within its Constitutional authority to impeach Trump while he remains in office.  They would be stupid to do so, and one could certainly argue that his address to the demonstrators gathered in DC on 6 January in no way amounted to high crimes and misdemeanors; Alan Dershowitz has already made the case that Trump's speech was fully protected by the 1A.  But the Constitution does not specify the meaning of "high crimes and misdemeanors", so a HoR can decide that on a political basis.

However the Senate will not have time to conduct a trial before Biden is inaugurated, so in any Constitutional sense a renewed impeachment would become a dead letter on 20 January.  Since there is no time for a trial, votes to impeach in the HoR are simply political grievance by the Ds and virtue signaling by the Rs.

Should a D-controlled Senate attempt to conduct a trial after Biden is inaugurated, I suppose a legal case would have to be made to SCOTUS, perhaps on the Bill of Attainder basis I have already suggested.  Unfortunately the SCOTUS record does not inspire confidence.  Certainly Rs (*some* Rs) would make the political case to the American people that the trial would be a waste of time and resources, and only a cause for additional animosity and division among the public at large.  I can't think of a better way to keep Trump's supporters fully motivated than by making him a political martyr; he would essentially become the King-maker for the next R nomination, and he would be in a power position for which there is no impeachment or even censure.  The Ds are smart enough to know this so they will pursue with all vigor any "Trumped up" criminal charges they can conjure.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: bilo on January 13, 2021, 02:02:46 am
They want to make sure he can never run for office again.  The RINO's and the Dems are scared to death he'll be back in 2024.

Whether he runs or not he is going to be the driving force on the right. No Pub will even have a chance without his support.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 13, 2021, 02:18:44 am
The Rats won't let him. The article of impeachment will go to the new Senate. It will be challenged and then go to the SCOTUS to rule if it is even valid. We know how dependable the SCOTUS is and they will either punt by sending it back to Congress to resolve, or they will rule it's valid. The "trial" will be held in the Rats "sacred" Senate. If McConnell can get the votes Trump will be convicted.

Impeachment is solely the avenue to remove a President from his position.  The Senate can't convict after their defendant leaves office.

Why do we give credence to this?

If the Congress wants to impeach after a term is over, then let's drag Sparky before the Senate and talk about that little natural born citizen thing. 



Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: catfish1957 on January 13, 2021, 03:46:14 am
Damn it!  I wish Cheney would stand down.  We don't need her help killing off the GOP!

This sadly has an August 1974 feel to it.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Hoodat on January 13, 2021, 03:53:40 am
Impeachment is solely the avenue to remove a President from his position.  The Senate can't convict after their defendant leaves office.

Why do we give credence to this?

If President Trump had actually committed a crime, they would wait until he leaves office, then charge him.  The fact that they're doing it this way shows they have nothing on him.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: catfish1957 on January 13, 2021, 04:02:04 am
If President Trump had actually committed a crime, they would wait until he leaves office, then charge him.  The fact that they're doing it this way shows they have nothing on him.

Earlier in the season @Cyber Liberty had a meme by his screen name with "Impeach Him Again...Harder"

Maybe we can keep these turdmeisters occupied with Trump and avoid NGD, and other disasterous dim policy initiatives the next 2 years.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: 240B on January 13, 2021, 04:15:34 am
I thought about that, but I believe that, that shell game is over and they will dismiss and unseat the RINO's.  They serve no purpose, the electoral process has been violated, we may see Romney join the 'uniparty' that will be ruling.  IF he hasn't seen the writing on the wall, then he's already made backroom deals to be in some kind of power, but if not he's going to be very surprised when they push him aside.

Just my opinion, I hope I am dead wrong.
Romney will be the first to go.

I said in a previous post that we will see a record unprecedented number of Republicans switch party this year.
Most politicians, of course, are scum. They don't give a damn about America or any political party at all.
They just want to be on the winning side. Romney is already there, but many others will follow as well.
Like you said before, the Republican Party will be extinct before the next Presidential election.
And it is very difficult to argue that they do not deserve it. The GOP is a moribund concept.
All politicians and judges are weaselly scum anyway. The only difference is now it is all out in the open.
They have all taken their masks off.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: dfwgator on January 13, 2021, 04:24:27 am

Where will that leave us? I think where it is going to end up is with the country splitting apart. Boundaries of countries change all the time. Why not here.

I'm already looking at moving to Poland, at least they are still fighting to preserve Western Civilization.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 13, 2021, 04:43:03 am
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Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: catfish1957 on January 13, 2021, 04:45:57 am
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She'll smooth things over by setting up a hunting trip with her dad....   :cool:
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: dancer on January 13, 2021, 09:14:48 am
Egads.

With "Republicans" like this...

What more is there to say...?
Exactly.  We maybe have 17 Pubs that are Conservative.  The rest are Uniparty.  They fool no one.   
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: dancer on January 13, 2021, 09:19:18 am
This could all be avoided if the man would just resign.   Responsible Republicans should be urging that route rather than impeachment.
Trump won so why should he resign?  The thievery was so blatant that even Democrats admit that there was major fraud.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: dancer on January 13, 2021, 09:31:13 am
Are we certain this is true or fake news?

What good does it do to impeach a president before he's ready to leave?
True.  She has been a #NeverTrumper and I saw her say it on tv. 

Asa Hutchinson, Geraldo, Kinzinger and Christy were all out supporting Trump's demise today.  I'm glad they are finally revealing who they are.  We all knew it.  Folks who don't pay attention might be surprised.  (Forgot to add Mitch to the list.)
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: dancer on January 13, 2021, 09:37:46 am
I thought about that, but I believe that, that shell game is over and they will dismiss and unseat the RINO's.  They serve no purpose, the electoral process has been violated, we may see Romney join the 'uniparty' that will be ruling.  IF he hasn't seen the writing on the wall, then he's already made backroom deals to be in some kind of power, but if not he's going to be very surprised when they push him aside.

Just my opinion, I hope I am dead wrong.
Oh, Romney is definitely Swamp.  It did my heart good to see that Romney and Lindsey had to fly coach like we peasants.  I was also happy to see Trump supporters giving them a hard time at the airport!  LOL  No soup for you!
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 13, 2021, 09:41:39 am
Another one to primary out.
Yep.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 13, 2021, 09:49:21 am
Considering WY isn't even remotely in play.....   **nononono*
Oh but it is! http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,424873.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,424873.0.html)

The BLM (Bureau of Land Management) controls a tremendous amount of land in Wyoming, and that is specifically the land that Harris and Biden can stop fraccing on (well, under).

Maybe she's toadying up to the crocodiles so she gets eaten last.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 13, 2021, 09:52:11 am
I thought about that, but I believe that, that shell game is over and they will dismiss and unseat the RINO's.  They serve no purpose, the electoral process has been violated, we may see Romney join the 'uniparty' that will be ruling.  IF he hasn't seen the writing on the wall, then he's already made backroom deals to be in some kind of power, but if not he's going to be very surprised when they push him aside.

Just my opinion, I hope I am dead wrong.
Considering his performance with Romneycare in Massachusetts, I think he's already one of them--a DemPlant.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 13, 2021, 12:41:30 pm
True.  She has been a #NeverTrumper and I saw her say it on tv. 

Asa Hutchinson, Geraldo, Kinzinger and Christy were all out supporting Trump's demise today.  I'm glad they are finally revealing who they are.  We all knew it.  Folks who don't pay attention might be surprised.  (Forgot to add Mitch to the list.)

And this same crew will be stumped wondering why the GOP doesn't win elections. 
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: 240B on January 13, 2021, 03:26:55 pm

And this same crew will be stumped wondering why the GOP doesn't win elections.
Nah, not really.
RINOs/NeverTrumps want to lose.
Their goal is and has always been that the GOP will constantly be in a permanent minority status.
All the money - all the grift - all the perqs - with no work, no real decisions, and no responsibility.
That is the dream of every politician, and every executive everywhere.

What they do not and refuse to understand, is the New Communist Democrats are not going to let them hang on and fly under the radar like the old Democrats did. The Communist mantra is, 'convert or die'. You are either one of us or you are out. The New Communist Democrats have no sense whatsoever of a 'friendly difference of opinion'. If you do not agree lockstep with everything they order, Democrat or Republican, then you are their 'enemy' in the very real sense of what that word means. And that goes for every American as well.

We are witnessing and living through the rise of the Fourth Reich. And the ultimate ironic paradox is that it is the so called 'Liberals' who are bringing it forward. We are quickly moving toward a totalitarian fascist State. Expect a civilian uniformed armed 'National Federal Police Force' to emerge which is beyond the reach of 'law' or civilian authorities. Local Police Forces (especially those who refuse to OBEY all the illegal proclamations which are soon coming) will be defunded and disbanded to be replaced by Federal Jackboots who ask no questions and do as they are told no matter what.

The Liberals wanted their Communist/Fascist Utopia. Well,...here it comes. Historically whenever this happens (and it has happened dozens of times in dozens of nations) the intellectuals are the first to be purged. Your Liberalism or your support for the ruling Party will not help you, except for a very select few. This is the path we are on. This is the way it has always happened. Republicans/Christians/Patriots/Dissidents of any race/religion are the new Jews.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: mountaineer on January 13, 2021, 04:00:12 pm
Here's the Dershowitz interview I referenced above.
Quote
Impeaching Trump Once again // A conversation with professor and constitutional scholar Alan Dershowitz
By Rabbi Yitzchok Frankfurter -
January 13, 2021

I’m sure you’ve seen the proposed Article of Impeachment.
Yes. It is clearly unconstitutional, and it should be rejected. It would establish a terrible precedent. The speech at the center of the impeachment is constitutionally protected by the First Amendment, and it shouldn’t be possible to impeach a president for making a speech that is protected by the First Amendment.

So you don’t think he crossed any lines.
No. Not only don’t I think it, I know it. I’m an expert on the First Amendment. I’ve been teaching it, writing about it and litigating about it since the 1960s. I don’t think any objective constitutional scholar of note will tell you that this speech violated the principles of Brandenburg v. Ohio, which is the leading case. In Brandenburg you had a Nazi provoking people, telling them to kill the Jews, send the blacks back to Africa and all of those horrible things. The Supreme Court, in a unanimous decision, said that it was advocacy, not incitement, and the same is true of the president’s speech. He didn’t tell anyone to break into the Capitol, kill people, destroy property, or anything like that. That would be incitement. What he said was clearly on the side of advocacy and clearly constitutionally protected. I don’t think there’s any real doubt about that.  ...

In other words, it’s oxymoronic for something to be both constitutionally protected and impeachable.
It’s worse than oxymoronic, it’s unconstitutional. Things can be oxymoronic and illogical, but when it’s unconstitutional it’s much worse.  ...
Read entire article at Ami Magazine (https://www.amimagazine.org/2021/01/13/impeaching-trump-once-again-2/)
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: verga on January 13, 2021, 04:09:22 pm
What evidence does Cheney have that Trump incited a violent mob?
That's funny right there. Since when do RINO's and libtards need evidence?
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: 240B on January 13, 2021, 04:27:33 pm
That's funny right there. Since when do RINO's and libtards need evidence?
True.
Pelosi and her coven said clearly, 'We can impeach any President at any time for any reason.'
(this is her self declared view of herself as supreme ruler of the United States, even above POTUS, speaking)
Evidence is irrelevant. Law is irrelevant. Democrats do not recognize the Constitution.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: mystery-ak on January 13, 2021, 05:17:20 pm
Jordan calls on Cheney to step down from House leadership

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) is calling on House Republican Conference Chair Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) to be removed from leadership for announcing her plans to vote to impeach President Trump for inciting last week's riot at the Capitol.

Jordan, a founder of the conservative House Freedom Caucus and one of Trump’s top defenders in the House, joined other GOP allies of Trump in calling for Cheney to step down from the role.

“We ought to have a second vote,” he told reporters, according to the Capitol Hill reporter pool. "The conference ought to vote on that."


Jordan’s comments echo those of Rep. Matt Rosendale (R-Mont.) and Freedom Caucus Chairman Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.).

“When Representative Cheney came out for impeachment today, she failed to consult with the Conference, failed to abide by the spirit of the rules of the Republican Conference, and ignored the preferences of Republican voters," Rosendale said in a statement Tuesday.

more
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/534028-jordan-calls-on-cheney-to-step-down-from-house-leadership
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on January 13, 2021, 05:22:14 pm
Can we all agree on one thing? We need more citizen representatives... representatives who are average people and not these elites?
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: BassWrangler on January 13, 2021, 05:29:55 pm
Can we all agree on one thing? We need more citizen representatives... representatives who are average people and not these elites?

I agree with that. I still think we need term limits.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Bigun on January 13, 2021, 05:31:43 pm
Stop voting for the guy with the most money in your primaries!  There is a reason that guy has all that money!
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: sneakypete on January 13, 2021, 05:46:43 pm
Nah, not really.
RINOs/NeverTrumps want to lose.
Their goal is and has always been that the GOP will constantly be in a permanent minority status.
All the money - all the grift - all the perqs - with no work, no real decisions, and no responsibility.
That is the dream of every politician, and every executive everywhere.

What they do not and refuse to understand, is the New Communist Democrats are not going to let them hang on and fly under the radar like the old Democrats did. The Communist mantra is, 'convert or die'. You are either one of us or you are out. The New Communist Democrats have no sense whatsoever of a 'friendly difference of opinion'. If you do not agree lockstep with everything they order, Democrat or Republican, then you are their 'enemy' in the very real sense of what that word means. And that goes for every American as well.

We are witnessing and living through the rise of the Fourth Reich. And the ultimate ironic paradox is that it is the so called 'Liberals' who are bringing it forward. We are quickly moving toward a totalitarian fascist State. Expect a civilian uniformed armed 'National Federal Police Force' to emerge which is beyond the reach of 'law' or civilian authorities. Local Police Forces (especially those who refuse to OBEY all the illegal proclamations which are soon coming) will be defunded and disbanded to be replaced by Federal Jackboots who ask no questions and do as they are told no matter what.

The Liberals wanted their Communist/Fascist Utopia. Well,...here it comes. Historically whenever this happens (and it has happened dozens of times in dozens of nations) the intellectuals are the first to be purged. Your Liberalism or your support for the ruling Party will not help you, except for a very select few. This is the path we are on. This is the way it has always happened. Republicans/Christians/Patriots/Dissidents of any race/religion are the new Jews.

@240B

As history has proven over and over since the dawn of civilization,ALL of the above is true. Anarchy,police state,control freak utopia,revolution,individual rights and freedoms,and the cycle begins again has became a cycle for humanity.

Not sure how much longer the cycle will last,though. The modern police state has too many "tools" to use these days to prevent rebellion to the borg to exist. Big Brother not only exists,he is thriving.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Jazzhead on January 13, 2021, 05:55:04 pm
And this same crew will be stumped wondering why the GOP doesn't win elections.

Again - the GOP won all sorts of elections this year.   Don't get caught in Trump's fevered fantasies and obsessions.   He has,  politically speaking,  screwed the pooch.    Don't follow him over the cliff - for who?  For what?
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: 240B on January 13, 2021, 06:25:35 pm

Again - the GOP won all sorts of elections this year.   
@Jazzhead
That will never happen again. The international billionaires and communists were focused precisely on Trump. They overlooked the others. But with Trump now gone, they will use their proven successful 'fraud techniques and technologies' to override every election in America, obviously with no challenge or repercussions of any kind. Now that they know how and what to do, and the media is in their pockets, I can't really see how any Republican or any Democrat they do not approve anywhere will ever be elected again. Unless the election process is brought under control, a Republican could not be elected as dog catcher from here on out. And the most absurd part is, the Republicans, blinded by their own greed and cowardice, dug their own graves much to the glee of the international oligarchs.

The Democrats/Liberals will soon find out that this was very much a Pyrrhic victory. They expect that the international oligarchs and the U.N. will allow an addled old fool and his mulatto nurse to rule over America. They both will be pushed out and replaced by some international consortium in short order. The Democrats think the billionaire oligarchs did the coup for the Leftist cause. LOL!

No. No. Not at all. They did it for themselves. These ancient 1940s Democrats will start dropping one by one, by accidents or health or whatever. To be replaced by surrogates of the NWO. All current American D.C. politicians will be replaced over the next four years by agents of the New Global Government. The Democrats were just patsy fools who opened the door for them to come in. They too are expendable.

The Devil cannot enter a home until he is invited in. Democrats/Liberals have done that. But when you sell your soul to the Devil, only a fool would be surprised when the Devil betrays them.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Hoodat on January 13, 2021, 06:28:12 pm
Can we all agree on one thing? We need more citizen representatives... representatives who are average people and not these elites?

We need an Amendment requiring Representatives to set up their Congressional offices and operate from inside their districts.  They can vote remotely.  Senators must set up their offices within the city limits of their state capitals.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: libertybele on January 13, 2021, 06:37:47 pm
This could all be avoided if the man would just resign.   Responsible Republicans should be urging that route rather than impeachment.

You still don't get it and you never will!  He didn't do anything that he needs to resign for.  Responsible Republicans?  Is that supposed to be some kind of joke?  If we had more responsible republicans we wouldn't find our country in the situation that it's in.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Jazzhead on January 13, 2021, 07:06:03 pm
You still don't get it and you never will!  He didn't do anything that he needs to resign for.  Responsible Republicans?  Is that supposed to be some kind of joke?  If we had more responsible republicans we wouldn't find our country in the situation that it's in.

All I'm suggesting is that resignation is a better alternative for Trump than impeachment/conviction/permanent bar from holding future federal office.

I'm sure Trump would prefer neither fate.   But that ship appears to sailed.   Ginning up a mob with false claims who then proceed to assault the Capiol tends to do that.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: catfish1957 on January 13, 2021, 07:10:47 pm
All I'm suggesting is that resignation is a better alternative for Trump than impeachment/conviction/permanent bar from holding future federal office.

I'm sure Trump would prefer neither fate.   But that ship appears to sailed.   Ginning up a mob with false claims who then proceed to assault the Capiol tends to do that.

Your are no better than the democratic politicial viglantes on the house floor right now fanning the flames of division. I noticed your suggestions didn't include censure.  You know why?  Because your hatred of Trump is every ounce of strong as all those socialist wanting the photo op of him arrested and cuffed. You must be proud.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Hoodat on January 13, 2021, 07:34:38 pm
Ginning up a mob with false claims who then proceed to assault the Capiol tends to do that.

Again, can you show me the exact wording of President Trump's speech that you consider seditious?
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: 240B on January 13, 2021, 07:39:22 pm
Not to worry @Jazzhead and his likeminded crew will all make excellent slave drones to the NWO.
None of them will know what hit them when America becomes the first "international zone" in place of a sovereign nation.
They think all of this means they won. In the short term that may be true. But the cost in the long-term will be unbelievable.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: cato potatoe on January 13, 2021, 08:36:47 pm
Impeachment vote is coming momentarily ...
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: mystery-ak on January 13, 2021, 08:59:11 pm
Cheney on calls for her to resign from GOP leadership: 'I'm not going anywhere'

Rep. Liz Cheney (Wyo.), the No. 3 House Republican, on Tuesday rejected calls from her GOP colleagues for her to step down from her leadership position over her forthcoming vote to impeach President Trump.

“I’m not going anywhere. This is a vote of conscience. It's one where there are different views in our conference,” Cheney told the Capitol Hill press pool. “But our nation is facing an unprecedented — since the Civil War — constitutional crisis. That's what we need to be focused on. That's where our efforts and attention need to be.”

Cheney is facing rebukes from House conservatives over her planned vote to impeach the president over his role in inciting last week’s deadly riot at the Capitol.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/534074-cheney-on-calls-for-her-to-resign-from-leadership-role-im-not-going-anywhere
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: BassWrangler on January 13, 2021, 09:05:57 pm
Cheney on calls for her to resign from GOP leadership: 'I'm not going anywhere'

Rep. Liz Cheney (Wyo.), the No. 3 House Republican, on Tuesday rejected calls from her GOP colleagues for her to step down from her leadership position over her forthcoming vote to impeach President Trump.

“I’m not going anywhere. This is a vote of conscience. It's one where there are different views in our conference,” Cheney told the Capitol Hill press pool. “But our nation is facing an unprecedented — since the Civil War — constitutional crisis. That's what we need to be focused on. That's where our efforts and attention need to be.”

Cheney is facing rebukes from House conservatives over her planned vote to impeach the president over his role in inciting last week’s deadly riot at the Capitol.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/534074-cheney-on-calls-for-her-to-resign-from-leadership-role-im-not-going-anywhere

See how they slip that "his role in inciting...". No mention of the fact that he specifically called for a peaceful demonstration. These guys rewrite history at will.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: cato potatoe on January 13, 2021, 09:17:57 pm
Nine Republicans vote to impeach, thus far: 

Dan Newhouse of Washington
John Katko of New York
Jamie Herrera Beutler of Washington
Adam Kinzinger of Illinois
Fred Upton of Michigan
Liz Cheney of Wyoming
Peter Meijer of Michigan
Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio
Tom Rice of South Carolina
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: dfwgator on January 13, 2021, 09:22:46 pm
Nine Republicans vote to impeach, thus far: 

Dan Newhouse of Washington
John Katko of New York
Jamie Herrera Beutler of Washington
Adam Kinzinger of Illinois
Fred Upton of Michigan
Liz Cheney of Wyoming
Peter Meijer of Michigan
Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio
Tom Rice of South Carolina

Now we know who to primary out.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Hoodat on January 13, 2021, 09:25:10 pm
Nine Republicans vote to impeach, thus far: 

Dan Newhouse of Washington
John Katko of New York
Jamie Herrera Beutler of Washington
Adam Kinzinger of Illinois
Fred Upton of Michigan
Liz Cheney of Wyoming
Peter Meijer of Michigan
Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio
Tom Rice of South Carolina

All without the prosecution presenting a single shred of evidence.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 13, 2021, 09:28:01 pm
Stop voting for the guy with the most money in your primaries!  There is a reason that guy has all that money!
QFT!
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 13, 2021, 09:28:44 pm
Now we know who to primary out.
Don't re-elect anyone!
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: cato potatoe on January 13, 2021, 09:40:08 pm
Now we know who to primary out.

David Valadao of California is the tenth
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: mountaineer on January 13, 2021, 09:45:04 pm
My Repub congressman says even though Trump is responsible for what happened last week  *****rollingeyes*****, he won't be voting to impeach.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: sneakypete on January 13, 2021, 09:50:19 pm
@Jazzhead
That will never happen again. The international billionaires and communists were focused precisely on Trump. They overlooked the others. But with Trump now gone, they will use their proven successful 'fraud techniques and technologies' to override every election in America, obviously with no challenge or repercussions of any kind. Now that they know how and what to do, and the media is in their pockets, I can't really see how any Republican or any Democrat they do not approve anywhere will ever be elected again. Unless the election process is brought under control, a Republican could not be elected as dog catcher from here on out. And the most absurd part is, the Republicans, blinded by their own greed and cowardice, dug their own graves much to the glee of the international oligarchs.

The Democrats/Liberals will soon find out that this was very much a Pyrrhic victory. They expect that the international oligarchs and the U.N. will allow an addled old fool and his mulatto nurse to rule over America. They both will be pushed out and replaced by some international consortium in short order. The Democrats think the billionaire oligarchs did the coup for the Leftist cause. LOL!

No. No. Not at all. They did it for themselves. These ancient 1940s Democrats will start dropping one by one, by accidents or health or whatever. To be replaced by surrogates of the NWO. All current American D.C. politicians will be replaced over the next four years by agents of the New Global Government. The Democrats were just patsy fools who opened the door for them to come in. They too are expendable.

The Devil cannot enter a home until he is invited in. Democrats/Liberals have done that. But when you sell your soul to the Devil, only a fool would be surprised when the Devil betrays them.

@240B

EVERY freaking word 100 percent true!

The Dims had better enjoy this temporary "victory" while they can because it is going to be a short celebration. Those clueless fools really DID believe THEY would be masters of the Universe,but they will soon learn they are nothing but temporary employees of World Wide Government,Inc,and can  have every dollar they have stolen or been paid in bribe money confiscated from them,and they will be both penniless and powerless.

Trump should look at this second impeachment today as a Badge of Honor.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: 240B on January 13, 2021, 09:52:38 pm
Don't re-elect anyone!
That's a little bit kinda hard to do these days...
since America no longer has 'real' verifiable elections anymore.
The person who wins any election from this day on, will be the person selected by the shadow government.
This is why so many Republicans are openly and traitorously defecting.
They know what is going on. America is no longer in charge of its own government.
And they want to be on 'any side' as long as they are on the winning side.
Politicians are true scum. They are sociopaths with no conscience.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: sneakypete on January 13, 2021, 09:53:59 pm
We need an Amendment requiring Representatives to set up their Congressional offices and operate from inside their districts.  They can vote remotely.  Senators must set up their offices within the city limits of their state capitals.

@Hoodat

I agree. This won't be a complete solution to the corruption in government,but it would damn sure make it harder for the globalists to corrupt them.

Not to mention make it harder for them to gather together to plot corruption.

Not to mention more expensive for the globalist masters.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: mystery-ak on January 13, 2021, 09:56:03 pm
House Republican Predicts Half of GOP Supports Ousting Liz Cheney as Conference Chair

Sean Moran13 Jan 20210
2:40

One House Republican predicted Wednesday that as many as half of the House Republican conference might vote to oust Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) as the House Republican Conference chair.

Politico’s Melanie Zanona reported that one House Republican not affiliated with the House Freedom Caucus said as many as half of the House Republican Conference may support ousting Cheney as the third-ranking Republican over her support for impeaching President Donald Trump.

more
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/13/house-republican-predicts-half-gop-supports-ousting-liz-cheney-conference-chair/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/13/house-republican-predicts-half-gop-supports-ousting-liz-cheney-conference-chair/)
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: catfish1957 on January 13, 2021, 10:04:40 pm
Now we know who to primary out.

1000% yes.  Your enemy is your enemy. Traitors are worse. Cheney most be voted out of her leadership position
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: 240B on January 13, 2021, 10:13:08 pm
House Republican Predicts Half of GOP Supports Ousting Liz Cheney as Conference Chair

Sean Moran13 Jan 20210
2:40

One House Republican predicted Wednesday that as many as half of the House Republican conference might vote to oust Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) as the House Republican Conference chair.

Politico’s Melanie Zanona reported that one House Republican not affiliated with the House Freedom Caucus said as many as half of the House Republican Conference may support ousting Cheney as the third-ranking Republican over her support for impeaching President Donald Trump.

more
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/13/house-republican-predicts-half-gop-supports-ousting-liz-cheney-conference-chair/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/13/house-republican-predicts-half-gop-supports-ousting-liz-cheney-conference-chair/)
Nonsense.
Cheney is absolutely correct when she says, 'I'm not going anywhere!'
As long as she stays true to her masters, she will die in office like all the rest of the traitorous Democrats.
But if she steps out-of-line, her butt will be on the pavement faster than 5 minute grits.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: GtHawk on January 13, 2021, 10:14:56 pm
Again, can you show me the exact wording of President Trump's speech that you consider seditious?
He can't that's why he keeps going back spouting the same democrat line, yeah he would love for Trump to resign which would be giving the insurrectionists, that's right the actual insurrectionist are the socialist democrats, tacict legitimacy to  the lies and false charges that have been laid against him.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Hoodat on January 13, 2021, 10:40:25 pm
@Hoodat

I agree. This won't be a complete solution to the corruption in government,but it would damn sure make it harder for the globalists to corrupt them.

Not to mention make it harder for them to gather together to plot corruption.

Not to mention more expensive for the globalist masters.

@sneakypete

Commercial rents on K Street would plummet.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: catfish1957 on January 13, 2021, 11:27:29 pm
 :bkmk:

Here are the 10 traitors voting Y for impeachment....  Remember them in 2022. 


Rep. Dan Newhouse (WA)
Rep. John Katko (NY)
Rep. Jamie Herrera Beutler (WA)
Rep. Adam Kinzinger (IL)
Rep. Fred Upton (MI)
Rep. Liz Cheney (WY)
Rep. Peter Meijer (MI)
Rep. Anthony Gonzalez (OH)
Rep. Tom Rice (SC)
Rep. David Valadao (CA)
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: txradioguy on January 13, 2021, 11:33:20 pm
  Ginning up a mob with false claims who then proceed to assault the Capiol tends to do that.

Where's the evidence he did any of that?  Where's the soundbite? Have you read the transcript of the speech?
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: txradioguy on January 13, 2021, 11:35:04 pm
Hey @Jazzhead THIS is incitement:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Erj4f0XXMAAgXEq?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Bigun on January 13, 2021, 11:35:13 pm
Where's the evidence he did any of that?  Where's the soundbite? Have you read the transcript of the speech?

Since when are trolls concerned with evidence?
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: txradioguy on January 13, 2021, 11:36:40 pm
Since when are trolls concerned with evidence?

They aren't.  But it's not gonna stop me from shaming his liberal ass every chance I get.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Bigun on January 13, 2021, 11:38:54 pm
They aren't.  But it's not gonna stop me from shaming his liberal ass every chance I get.

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 13, 2021, 11:51:53 pm
They aren't.  But it's not gonna stop me from shaming his liberal ass every chance I get.
'
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: catfish1957 on January 13, 2021, 11:54:08 pm
They aren't.  But it's not gonna stop me from shaming his liberal ass every chance I get.

Jazzy's supporting Haley.  That's about the last straw as far as I am concerned. Never found the ignore button yet.....
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Bigun on January 13, 2021, 11:55:47 pm
Jazzy's supporting Haley.  That's about the last straw as far as I am concerned. Never found the ignore button yet.....

He's damned lucky that I don't have access to the ZAPP button!
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: mystery-ak on January 13, 2021, 11:58:54 pm
Jazzy's supporting Haley.  That's about the last straw as far as I am concerned. Never found the ignore button yet.....

Okay...go to your profile

click Modify Profile

click Buddies/Ignore

then click edit Ignore and add the member's name you want to ignore..
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 13, 2021, 11:59:42 pm
Hey @Jazzhead THIS is incitement:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Erj4f0XXMAAgXEq?format=jpg&name=medium)

I've asked him for two days now to watch these two brief videos and tell me if he sees and impeachable offenses ..... @txradioguy @Bigun

Video Part 1: https://twitter.com/PappyVanStankle/status/1348994999795527681

Video Part 2:  https://twitter.com/PappyVanStankle/status/1348997365408129024

Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: catfish1957 on January 14, 2021, 12:00:44 am
Okay...go to your profile

click Modify Profile

click Buddies/Ignore

then click edit Ignore and add the member's name you want to ignore..

Thanks... Will probably help my blood pressure.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: txradioguy on January 14, 2021, 12:02:08 am
I've asked him for two days now to watch these two brief videos and tell me if he sees and impeachable offenses ..... @txradioguy @Bigun

Video Part 1: https://twitter.com/PappyVanStankle/status/1348994999795527681

Video Part 2:  https://twitter.com/PappyVanStankle/status/1348997365408129024

Given the extremely low bar the Libs like Jazzy and his ilk have set for what qualifies as "incitement"...then Articles of Impeachment need to be drawn up against that drunken witch and skanky old Madonna too.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 14, 2021, 12:05:07 am
The bitch deleted this tweet ...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Erpi5FxXAAM5alt?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: libertybele on January 14, 2021, 12:08:37 am
:bkmk:

Here are the 10 traitors voting Y for impeachment....  Remember them in 2022. 


Rep. Dan Newhouse (WA)
Rep. John Katko (NY)
Rep. Jamie Herrera Beutler (WA)
Rep. Adam Kinzinger (IL)
Rep. Fred Upton (MI)
Rep. Liz Cheney (WY)
Rep. Peter Meijer (MI)
Rep. Anthony Gonzalez (OH)
Rep. Tom Rice (SC)
Rep. David Valadao (CA)

Thanks for the list. I don't recognize any of those except for Cheney and Rice.

I'm coming to the conclusion that there are but a handful of conservatives left in D.C. I was surprised at McCarthy speaking out against Trump.

I guess nothing should surprise me anymore.  Anger me yes.  Surprise me no.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: catfish1957 on January 14, 2021, 12:11:46 am
Thanks for the list. I don't recognize any of those except for Cheney and Rice.

I'm coming to the conclusion that there are but a handful of conservatives left in D.C. I was surprised at McCarthy speaking out against Trump.

I guess nothing should surprise me anymore.  Anger me yes.  Surprise me no.

Exactly.  All 10 could have saved face by saying they'd support a Censure instead.  Now they get to feel the wratch of conservatives voters everywhere.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: txradioguy on January 14, 2021, 12:18:10 am
The bitch deleted this tweet ...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Erpi5FxXAAM5alt?format=jpg&name=large)

Gaza Spice needs to just delete her whole account.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Fishrrman on January 14, 2021, 12:26:22 am
240b predicts:
"The person who wins any election from this day on, will be the person selected by the shadow government."

I've posted it a few times before, I'll do so again:

Remember Lavrentiy Beria's (deputy to Stalin) boast:
"Show me the man, I'll show you the crime" ?

With the refinement of the democrat-communist underground election apparatus (in multiple states), this is going to become:
"Show me the election, and I'll show you the winner".
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: 240B on January 14, 2021, 12:36:12 am

Exactly.  All 10 could have saved face by saying they'd support a Censure instead.  Now they get to feel the wratch of conservatives voters everywhere.
There are no more conservative voters everywhere.
Voting has been governmentzied and politicalized.
There is no more so called 'voting'. Voting is a relic of the last century.
We are now in The Brave New World. "We" will take care of the rabble.
"Voting" is now unnecessary.

As a former military professional, I know when I have been overrun.
For the moment, we are defeated. But we have to stay strong.
These next four years will change the direction of everything.
Not only America, but the entire world as it exists.

It will not be some addled dementia patient, or some addled old witch from SF, or some mixed breed (who knows what she is?) lawyer driving the change. These are all expendable idiots. It will be the billionaire people who constructed all of this who will lead us into our final destiny.

All of these Democrat so called 'leaders' are nothing but dust to the people coming in, appointed to replace them.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Jazzhead on January 14, 2021, 01:18:31 am
Where's the evidence he did any of that?  Where's the soundbite? Have you read the transcript of the speech?

It took him until today to condemn the violence.  And he did so, unequivocally and well.  And he was absolutely correct in condemning all politically-inspired violence,  something I've heard no Democrat do. 

Why did he wait so long?    I'm glad he finally spoke up;  if he'd done so in the immediate wake of the violence,  I would not have expressed my preference that he resign. 

He was, until it was too late,  always the leader of his faction, unwilling to speak hard truth to his base.   Glad to see he finally spoke for the nation. 
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: libertybele on January 14, 2021, 01:21:46 am
 :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:  :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

A little bit of patriotism goes a long ways and the ignore feature works beautifully!! 
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: txradioguy on January 14, 2021, 01:26:00 am
It took him until today to condemn the violence.

That's a lie.  And it doesn't answer the question I asked you. 


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And he did so, unequivocally and well.  And he was absolutely correct in condemning all politically-inspired violence,  something I've heard no Democrat do.
 

Thanks for verifying you haven't read the transcript of his speeech.

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Why did he wait so long?

He didn't wait so long.  He's been condemning violence for the last 4 years.   


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I'm glad he finally spoke up;  if he'd done so in the immediate wake of the violence,  I would not have expressed my preference that he resign.


All he did...if you'd actually read the damn transcript of his speech see he talked about everything being peaceful several times.

But because you're an intellectual coward and won't read the transcript of his speech you'll continue to repeat this lie.

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He was, until it was too late,  always the leader of his faction, unwilling to speak hard truth to his base.   Glad to see he finally spoke for the nation.

He's been speaking for the nation for the last 4 years.  Where the fu*k have you been Skippy?
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: txradioguy on January 14, 2021, 01:27:35 am
I'll ask again @Jazzhead where's the audio of him inciting the riots at the Capitol?

There is none and we know that because if there was audio the MSM would be running it 24/7.

You're being dishonest on this issue in more ways than there are a definition for.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 14, 2021, 01:43:58 am
Conrad Black
@ConradMBlack


This will be the second impeachment proceeding where a full transcript exists exonerating the president.


9:51 AM · Jan 13, 2021·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/ConradMBlack/status/1349368534900625409
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: sneakypete on January 14, 2021, 02:37:10 am
@sneakypete

Commercial rents on K Street would plummet.

@Hoodat

Cool! ANYTHING that reduces or puts pressure on DC budgets is a good thing for America.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: mountaineer on January 14, 2021, 02:56:27 am
I think that Meijer who voted for impeachment is from the grocery chain family. People now are talking of boycotting.
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 14, 2021, 03:09:23 am
They are ALL demon-rats.  Stop fooling us. 
Title: Re: Cheney says she'll vote to impeach Trump
Post by: christian on January 14, 2021, 05:13:25 am
Even Cheney shows that the deep State is far more extensive than most of us realized.