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Title: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Applewood on August 27, 2019, 08:00:21 pm
Tropical Storm Dorian could be hurricane as it nears Puerto Rico, forecasters say

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San Juan, Puerto Rico -- The National Hurricane Center issued a hurricane watch and tropical storm warning for Puerto Rico early Tuesday as Tropical Storm Dorian moved through the Windward Islands. Also early Tuesday, the Dominican Republic government issued a hurricane watch for some parts of the island and a tropical storm watch for portions of its north and south coasts.

The hurricane center, in Miami, recommended that residents of the Virgin Islands keep an eye on Dorian, as well. The center said that, as of 2 p.m. EDT Tuesday, the storm had maximum sustained winds of 50 mph and was forecast to strengthen over the next 48 hours as it moved toward Puerto Rico.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tropical-storm-dorian-could-be-hurricane-nears-puerto-rico-latest-track-path-weather-forecast-model-today-2019-08-27/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tropical-storm-dorian-could-be-hurricane-nears-puerto-rico-latest-track-path-weather-forecast-model-today-2019-08-27/)

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I just hope PR is better prepared this time.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: thackney on August 27, 2019, 08:26:24 pm
(https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT05/refresh/AL052019_5day_cone_with_line_and_wind+png/174940_5day_cone_with_line_and_wind.png)

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at5.shtml?start#contents (https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at5.shtml?start#contents)

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Wingnut on August 27, 2019, 08:57:12 pm
 Trumps fault. Man made global warming.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 27, 2019, 09:22:31 pm
Trumps fault. Man made global warming.

And he didn't go to the global warming meeting at G7.  That's why the hurricane is coming.  (sarc)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Wingnut on August 27, 2019, 09:25:55 pm
And he didn't go to the global warming meeting at G7.  That's why the hurricane is coming.  (sarc)

Even mother nature has TDS!
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 28, 2019, 12:18:40 am
I hope it swamps the open-air sewer.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: EdJames on August 28, 2019, 01:15:39 am
Latest from Levi:

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJFgRuMvCGM#)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 28, 2019, 06:29:16 pm
Live updates: Dorian strengthens to Category 1 hurricane as storms bears down on Puerto Rico

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Dorian strengthened to a Category 1 hurricane as it neared Puerto Rico Wednesday afternoon.

The storm will then move north, potentially becoming a major Category 3 hurricane when it reaches Florida over the holiday weekend.

Dorian isn't forecast to make landfall in Puerto Rico, but the island may still see 10 inches of heavy rain as well as mudslides and flooding.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dorian-sets-sights-florida-tropical-storm-erin-develops/story?id=65237210
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 28, 2019, 06:38:15 pm
It looks like the powerful "windward" side of the storm is missing PR, which is probably why they are now predicting a 3 when it hits the mainland. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: catfish1957 on August 28, 2019, 06:40:59 pm
(https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT05/refresh/AL052019_5day_cone_with_line_and_wind+png/174940_5day_cone_with_line_and_wind.png)

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at5.shtml?start#contents (https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at5.shtml?start#contents)

WTH?????

Never seen such a massive adjustment in projected strength in just 24 hours......
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 28, 2019, 06:47:31 pm
WTH?????

Never seen such a massive adjustment in projected strength in just 24 hours......

Wasn't there one predicted to be a 3 at landfall last year, only to collapse to barely a 1 before it hit the shore?
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: catfish1957 on August 28, 2019, 06:48:57 pm
Wasn't there one predicted to be a 3 at landfall last year, only to collapse to barely a 1 before it hit the shore?

I think so, but this sucker was forecasted to be a depression at the 5 day point, about a day ago.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 28, 2019, 06:49:19 pm
Depending on what map you look at, it appears the weather guessers are forecasting landfall in Florida anywhere from  Jacksonville to Vero Beach. 

But who knows? 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: thackney on August 28, 2019, 06:52:20 pm
Depending on what map you look at, it appears the weather guessers are forecasting landfall in Florida anywhere from  Jacksonville to Vero Beach. 

But who knows?

The different models are still showing a wide variety of paths.

(https://apps.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_05_ens.gif)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Wingnut on August 28, 2019, 06:52:49 pm
Depending on what map you look at, it appears the weather guessers are forecasting landfall in Florida anywhere from  Jacksonville to Vero Beach. 

But who knows?

I'm getting ready for it.  Even though it will be a huge dud.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 28, 2019, 06:53:14 pm
I think so, but this sucker was forecasted to be a depression at the 5 day point, about a day ago.

Ah!  Yes, it was.  At the time, it was "Maybe a Hurricane" if/when it hits the mainland.  It remains to be seen if it holds to the models.  I consider 2 or more to be a killer storm....Prayers for our Floridian friends (and Georgians, too.  They aren't breathing easy just yet).
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 28, 2019, 06:54:44 pm
I'm getting ready for it.  Even though it will be a huge dude.

(http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=373387.0;attach=5943;image)

That's a great idea!  Just be sure and unplug the washer....
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 28, 2019, 06:55:58 pm
I'm getting ready for it.  Even though it will be a huge dud.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Wingnut on August 28, 2019, 06:56:26 pm
That's a great idea!  Just be sure and unplug the washer....

 :pondering:

 :beer:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 28, 2019, 07:07:54 pm
:pondering:

 :beer:

"Better listen to him, he's Pre-Law."
"I thought he was Pre-Med?"
"Same thing."
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on August 28, 2019, 07:10:57 pm
WTH?????

Never seen such a massive adjustment in projected strength in just 24 hours......

Yesterday they had it going over land on the way to FL, now it's open sea.  Weakening vs strengthening.

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 28, 2019, 07:12:51 pm
Yesterday they had it going over land on the way to FL, now it's open sea.  Weakening vs strengthening.

That is my uninformed guess as well.  The bullet PR dodged is pointed at Florida/Georgia now.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Wingnut on August 28, 2019, 07:14:06 pm
"Better listen to him, he's Pre-Law."
"I thought he was Pre-Med?"
"Same thing."

Point of parliamentary procedure!

Bluto was pre-law all along.

The evidence: After Flounder sees the damage to his brother's car he starts sobbing, Bluto gives him a six-pack and tells him to start drinking heavily. Otter then says, "Better listen to him, Flounder, he's in pre-med."

But, the end of the movie tells us that he is now a Senator in DC. Not a doctor.

But Otter becomes a doctor. He becomes a gynecologist in California. And this is in spite of an earlier conversation at the Delta's trial.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: catfish1957 on August 28, 2019, 07:18:01 pm
Yesterday they had it going over land on the way to FL, now it's open sea.  Weakening vs strengthening.

Well understand that premise.  My point was the incredible difference in a 24 hour intensity forcast.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Victoria33 on August 28, 2019, 07:21:11 pm
Depending on what map you look at, it appears the weather guessers are forecasting landfall in Florida anywhere from  Jacksonville to Vero Beach. 
But who knows?
@Applewood
@Cyber Liberty

It is 2:18 pm, central time.  I just saw the various paths it could take and two of those paths show it crossing Florida and passing into the gulf.  Gulf waters are hotter than where it is now; I do not want it in the gulf and threatening Texas.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 28, 2019, 07:59:23 pm
@Applewood
@Cyber Liberty

It is 2:18 am, central time.  I just saw the various paths it could take and two of those paths show it crossing Florida and passing into the gulf.  Gulf waters are hotter than where it is now; I do not want it in the gulf and threatening Texas.

It's been said of Hurricanes in the Gulf:  Somebody's gonna get hurt.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: berdie on August 28, 2019, 08:34:40 pm
I'm getting ready for it.  Even though it will be a huge dud.


I always think one should take care of the necessities. (I'll keep that storage idea in my disaster list. :laugh:)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 28, 2019, 08:47:01 pm
@Applewood
@Cyber Liberty

It is 2:18 am, central time.  I just saw the various paths it could take and two of those paths show it crossing Florida and passing into the gulf.  Gulf waters are hotter than where it is now; I do not want it in the gulf and threatening Texas.

@Victoria33

Best case scenario for you I guess would be if Dorian makes landfall on the eastern side of Florida and moves  north.  Wherever it makes landfall, hopefully, it will weaken.

Wherever Dorian hits, I figure we in PA will get rain out of it. Rain is something we don't need here.  We've had plenty all summer.  But I guess compared to the damage Dorian will cause elsewhere, rain is nothing. 

Prayers for our members who are or may be in Dorian's path.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: mystery-ak on August 28, 2019, 10:05:53 pm
Florida governor declares state of emergency ahead of hurricane
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/459201-florida-governor-declares-state-of-emergency-ahead-of-hurricane
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: dfwgator on August 28, 2019, 10:11:56 pm
It's been said of Hurricanes in the Gulf:  Somebody's gonna get hurt.

Did you know Camille killed more people in Virginia than along the Gulf Coast?
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Wingnut on August 28, 2019, 10:15:49 pm
Florida governor declares state of emergency ahead of hurricane
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/459201-florida-governor-declares-state-of-emergency-ahead-of-hurricane

Desantos doing a CYA.   It is all the rage these days.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 28, 2019, 10:26:40 pm
Did you know Camille killed more people in Virginia than along the Gulf Coast?

I was rather young at the time, but isn't Camille the yardstick against which other Hurricanes are measured?  The deal with the Gulf is it's warmer, and surrounded on all sides by populated land.  They're all dangerous at landfall, Gulf or otherwise.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on August 28, 2019, 10:41:22 pm
Desantos doing a CYA.   It is all the rage these days.

I've worked with several FL cities and counties on disaster prep/recovery.  The SoE opens some doors (like authorizing travel/overtime, etc).  Declaring a couple days early allows them to get resources in place while the sun's still out and the gas stations are open.

That said, does CYA fit somewhere in a politicians thinking?  I guess it's possible that's true, too.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 29, 2019, 01:22:31 am
Hurricane Dorian moves away from Puerto Rico, with Florida now in its sights
Sun Sentinel, Aug 28, 2019, 8:08 PM ET

All of Florida now is in Hurricane Dorian’s forecast zone as it travels away from Puerto Rico. Landfall on Labor Day as a Category 3 is increasingly likely, according to the National Hurricane Center’s 8 p.m. Wednesday weather update.

And somewhat ominously for South Florida, the predicted storm track continues to edge south.

“Dorian is forecast to strengthen into a powerful hurricane during the next few days over the Atlantic waters,” the center said.

(https://www.sun-sentinel.com/resizer/tLi6kg9WO61pGWacRsHS3VxKTu8=/800x656/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/EIIXOMMGWRCPHBQYEZBDID7E4E.png)

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/weather/hurricane/fl-ne-hurricane-dorian-track-florida-20190828-4e5wysuk7nfrnikslra2buohxi-story.html (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/weather/hurricane/fl-ne-hurricane-dorian-track-florida-20190828-4e5wysuk7nfrnikslra2buohxi-story.html)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 29, 2019, 01:26:59 am
Georgia preparing for coastal evacuations as Hurricane Dorian nears
Washington Examiner, Aug 28, 2019, 7:40 pm ET

Georgia is preparing for coastal evacuations as Hurricane Dorian approaches the southeastern United States.

State officials held a press conference Wednesday evening, hours after Dorian reached hurricane strength and passed by the U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico.

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp stressed that it is "very difficult" to project just where the storm may head in the coming days, and therefore, his administration is preparing for a number of possibilities. "We are already weighing considerations on how to potentially handle evacuation scenarios, including evacuations out of Florida into Georgia inland from Georgia's coast and what that may mean for traffic on our roadways throughout the Southeast," he said.

Kemp said discussions on how to deal with "vulnerable populations," including elderly, hospital populations, homeless people, and inmates. He also said preparations include communicating with the federal government and neighboring states.


More:  https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/georgia-preparing-for-coastal-evacuations-as-hurricane-dorian-nears (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/georgia-preparing-for-coastal-evacuations-as-hurricane-dorian-nears)


Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Wingnut on August 29, 2019, 01:38:11 am
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70457421_10156791927489472_7709566497907015680_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQk3ftVg_rlQnNIzLoGHzWptl-7pBgK4vuxIHCwXtB5PTxeiFBsdtdxD91Wa78iEEwcT76BPTfot2wdujYfSDCwa&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=3a5b8e3b681d9b0eed02dbaa75724af5&oe=5DD0A979)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 29, 2019, 01:41:31 am
Hurricane Dorian moves away from Puerto Rico, with Florida now in its sights
Sun Sentinel, Aug 28, 2019, 8:08 PM ET

All of Florida now is in Hurricane Dorian’s forecast zone as it travels away from Puerto Rico. Landfall on Labor Day as a Category 3 is increasingly likely, according to the National Hurricane Center’s 8 p.m. Wednesday weather update.

And somewhat ominously for South Florida, the predicted storm track continues to edge south.

“Dorian is forecast to strengthen into a powerful hurricane during the next few days over the Atlantic waters,” the center said.

(https://www.sun-sentinel.com/resizer/tLi6kg9WO61pGWacRsHS3VxKTu8=/800x656/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/EIIXOMMGWRCPHBQYEZBDID7E4E.png)

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/weather/hurricane/fl-ne-hurricane-dorian-track-florida-20190828-4e5wysuk7nfrnikslra2buohxi-story.html (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/weather/hurricane/fl-ne-hurricane-dorian-track-florida-20190828-4e5wysuk7nfrnikslra2buohxi-story.html)

Shit.  It's turning South.

@Right_in_Virginia  Thanks for the sticky!
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 29, 2019, 01:43:17 am
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70457421_10156791927489472_7709566497907015680_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQk3ftVg_rlQnNIzLoGHzWptl-7pBgK4vuxIHCwXtB5PTxeiFBsdtdxD91Wa78iEEwcT76BPTfot2wdujYfSDCwa&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=3a5b8e3b681d9b0eed02dbaa75724af5&oe=5DD0A979)

Sounds like a typical Weather Report for both places I've lived in Arizona:  "It might rain, unless it doesn't.  Be Prepared!"
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Wingnut on August 29, 2019, 01:45:32 am
Sounds like a typical Weather Report for both places I've lived in Arizona:  "It might rain, unless it doesn't.  Be Prepared!"

It's like the g-damned Hippy Dippy Weatherman around here. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Victoria33 on August 29, 2019, 02:10:30 am
@Cyber Liberty
@The Ghost

Every model, at 9:10 pm, central time, shows it going across Florida and into the Gulf.  Two weather systems block it from going north.  The gulf water is hotter than the ocean water and that means it will get much stronger and may go into Texas.

If that happens, I am sure you, Ghost, will gladly drive me (since you sold my car) from north of Dallas down to my townhouse which would likely be in the path of Dorian if it comes into Texas.  We can have lovely conversation for over three hours on our way down 45 to get there.  Since you lived in Texas, you already know how to get there.  Thanks so much for your offer of "Driving Miss Marcella" on another thread.   :bighug:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: catfish1957 on August 29, 2019, 04:15:24 am
It's like the g-damned Hippy Dippy Weatherman around here.

(https://preview.redd.it/2qjokmp5hdr11.jpg?width=576&s=70b71d6c18d0f2c612a438cd89c6eba83fa2a4c5)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: EdJames on August 29, 2019, 06:16:47 am
Latest from Levi:

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqRyDuqFKB8#)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Texas Yellow Rose on August 29, 2019, 11:07:14 am
This is a link showing the highs in the gulf and eastern US for the next 3 days. 
https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/national_forecast/natfcst.php?day=1] [url]https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/national_forecast/natfcst.php?day=1 (http://[url)[/url]



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Most spaghetti models are predicting it to turn north. 
(https://apps.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_05.gif)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 29, 2019, 11:17:59 am
It's like the g-damned Hippy Dippy Weatherman around here.

Hey, don't knock Al Sleet.  At least he was accurate.  "Tonight's forecast:  dark."

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1uaw3WIOlc#)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: mystery-ak on August 29, 2019, 01:08:22 pm
Hurricane Dorian may reach Category 4 strength before hitting Florida
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hurricane-dorian-may-reach-category-4-strength-before-hitting-florida (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hurricane-dorian-may-reach-category-4-strength-before-hitting-florida)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 29, 2019, 01:27:40 pm
Quote
Donald J. Trump
Verified accountï‚™ @realDonaldTrump 

Puerto Rico is in great shape with Hurricane Dorian taking a largely different route than anticipated. Thank you to FEMA, first responders, and all, for working so hard & being so well prepared. A great result! The bad news, Florida get ready! Storm is building and will be BIG!

3:58 AM - 29 Aug 2019

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1167028669988126722


Quote
Donald J. Trump
Verified accountï‚™ @realDonaldTrump 

Hurricane Dorian looks like it will be hitting Florida late Sunday night. Be prepared and please follow State and Federal instructions, it will be a very big Hurricane, perhaps one of the biggest!

4:03 AM - 29 Aug 2019

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1167030041303310336
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 29, 2019, 01:41:41 pm
In other words, Dorian is going to be YUGE!
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: thackney on August 29, 2019, 01:50:45 pm
Hurricane Dorian may reach Category 4 strength before hitting Florida
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hurricane-dorian-may-reach-category-4-strength-before-hitting-florida (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hurricane-dorian-may-reach-category-4-strength-before-hitting-florida)

All of the models show it growing in strength significantly.

(https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/05L_intensity_latest.png)

It is going to be a rainy night in Georgia, eventually.

(https://apps.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_05_ens.gif)

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Victoria33 on August 29, 2019, 01:51:27 pm
We have at least one member living in Florida.  If this storm gets to a 4, there will be major damage.  Prayers up for everyone in Florida.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 29, 2019, 02:04:13 pm
We have at least one member living in Florida.  If this storm gets to a 4, there will be major damage.  Prayers up for everyone in Florida.

 :amen:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Sanguine on August 29, 2019, 02:20:06 pm
BKMK
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: mystery-ak on August 29, 2019, 03:12:21 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDH2IZYXUAAF1A4?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Sanguine on August 29, 2019, 03:38:30 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDH2IZYXUAAF1A4?format=jpg&name=large)

 :silly:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 29, 2019, 04:51:44 pm
Publix makes hurricane cookie cake as Dorian looms

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As Hurricane Dorian barrels towards Florida's east coast, one local supermarket chain created a confection that's churning up some mixed reactions on social media.

While the storm and it's path are no joke, Publix took the opportunity while preparing for the storm to bake up a creative cookie cake frosted to look like a weather forecast to give shoppers a moment of levity.
…
The circular storm snack is iced with bright blue frosting for the ocean, the silhouette of the state in green and a white outline that depicts the cone containment of the storm with a swirl of red for the eye of the storm.

 

Photo of the cookie cake here:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/publix-makes-hurricane-cookie-cake-as-dorian-looms/ar-AAGvQ2x?ocid=spartanntp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/publix-makes-hurricane-cookie-cake-as-dorian-looms/ar-AAGvQ2x?ocid=spartanntp)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: DCPatriot on August 29, 2019, 04:58:15 pm
IMO, this is 'The Boy who cried Wolf!'

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHimia_Fxzs#)

Cue Don Henley's intro-beat to "Dirty Laundry".....
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: thackney on August 29, 2019, 05:08:03 pm
IMO, this is 'The Boy who cried Wolf!'

How many Major Hurricanes hit the US without killing a couple dozen people or so?
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: mystery-ak on August 29, 2019, 11:37:56 pm
Trump cancels Poland trip as hurricane approaches Florida
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/459341-trump-cancels-poland-trip-as-hurricane-approaches-florida
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: mystery-ak on August 29, 2019, 11:42:07 pm
Former Canadian prime minister hopes Hurricane Dorian strikes 'direct hit on Mar a Lago'
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/former-canadian-prime-minister-hopes-hurricane-dorian-strikes-direct-hit-on-mar-a-lago (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/former-canadian-prime-minister-hopes-hurricane-dorian-strikes-direct-hit-on-mar-a-lago)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 30, 2019, 12:20:46 am
View of Hurricane Dorian from the International Space Station:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/article/hurricane-dorian-the-view-from-space/vi-AAGvVkH?ocid=spartanntp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/article/hurricane-dorian-the-view-from-space/vi-AAGvVkH?ocid=spartanntp)

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 30, 2019, 12:24:03 am
Did the idiot ex-prime minister consider that a direct hit on Mar-a-Lago could cost innocent lives?  Or does her hatred for Trump  blind her that much?

I don't like Trump, but not to the point that I wish him or anyone else to die.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 30, 2019, 09:37:53 am
FWIW:  Latest from USA Today:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/30/hurricane-dorian-updates-florida-labor-day-weekend-storm/2158037001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/30/hurricane-dorian-updates-florida-labor-day-weekend-storm/2158037001/)

Now the weather soothsayers are predicting Dorian will hit land "somewhere between the Florida Keys and southern Georgia."  In other words, they don't know where.


Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: thackney on August 30, 2019, 12:54:30 pm
Now the weather soothsayers are predicting Dorian will hit land "somewhere between the Florida Keys and southern Georgia."  In other words, they don't know where.

The steering currents are weak, slow moving and expected to weaken.

Not only does this make predictions difficult, the risk of damaging rainfall is greater due to slow moving storm.

(https://www.weathernerds.org/tc_guidance/images/AL05_2019083000_ECENS.png?20190830074142)

https://www.weathernerds.org/tc_guidance/storm.html?tcid=AL05 (https://www.weathernerds.org/tc_guidance/storm.html?tcid=AL05)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 30, 2019, 01:01:30 pm
@thackney

Gotta love those spaghetti charts.  LOL

Thanks for the update and insight.  Pea brained rubes like me need all the help we can get.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Gefn on August 30, 2019, 01:36:36 pm
Bookmark
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 30, 2019, 01:38:49 pm
@thackney

Gotta love those spaghetti charts.  LOL

(https://wxmankyle.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/hurricane-track.jpg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Sanguine on August 30, 2019, 01:50:24 pm
So, Sunday night/Monday morning landfall?
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: dfwgator on August 30, 2019, 02:06:31 pm
(https://wxmankyle.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/hurricane-track.jpg)

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/65577f8d7c2093d5478f6c1c612b6c4d/tenor.gif?itemid=7626688)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Wingnut on August 30, 2019, 02:13:50 pm
Look, Here is what is going to happen.   Mark my words.   I'm sitting here in the panhandle.  The wind is coming from the north northeast.  The humidity has dropped to 50% and it has cooled off considerably.  Tomorrow the wind will be out of the east and the temps will be cooler again but the humidity will increase..  This will steer the 'Cain out into the Atlantic and it will go north.  Worst case it will brush FL. It will not be a Cat 4 IF it hits land.

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Sanguine on August 30, 2019, 02:20:50 pm
Look, Here is what is going to happen.   Mark my words.   I'm sitting here in the panhandle.  The wind is coming from the north northeast.  The humidity has dropped to 50% and it has cooled off considerably.  Tomorrow the wind will be out of the east and the temps will be cooler again but the humidity will increase..  This will steer the 'Cain out into the Atlantic and it will go north.  Worst case it will brush FL. It will not be a Cat 4 IF it hits land.

Sounds like a good prediction. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: cato potatoe on August 30, 2019, 02:28:47 pm
Looks like it will mosey up to Eleuthera island, scare the crap out of 30 million people, and then choose a winner.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 30, 2019, 02:46:26 pm
Look, Here is what is going to happen.   Mark my words.   I'm sitting here in the panhandle.  The wind is coming from the north northeast.  The humidity has dropped to 50% and it has cooled off considerably.  Tomorrow the wind will be out of the east and the temps will be cooler again but the humidity will increase..  This will steer the 'Cain out into the Atlantic and it will go north.  Worst case it will brush FL. It will not be a Cat 4 IF it hits land.

I hope for your sake and the sake of everyone in Florida, Georgia and elsewhere along the coast, you are correct. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Gefn on August 30, 2019, 02:50:01 pm
I hope for your sake and the sake of everyone in Florida, Georgia and elsewhere along the coast, you are correct.

Me too. Sandy was a nightmare. I don’t like hurricanes.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 30, 2019, 02:56:56 pm
@Gefn

Are you getting anything yet from the other storm, Erin?  Last I heard Erin was not expected to make landfall, but it was going to dump a pile of rain along the east coast. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Gefn on August 30, 2019, 03:00:03 pm
@Gefn

Are you getting anything yet from the other storm, Erin?  Last I heard Erin was not expected to make landfall, but it was going to dump a pile of rain along the east coast.

My flowers need rain .  Haven’t heard about Erin though I’ve been offline for a bit. I’ll google it now
Thanks @Applewood
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 30, 2019, 03:10:33 pm
My flowers need rain .  Haven’t heard about Erin though I’ve been offline for a bit. I’ll google it now
Thanks @Applewood

@Gefn

Not much is being reported about Erin; most of the focus has been on Dorian.  Erin is small potatoes compared to what Dorian is expected to become.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 30, 2019, 03:29:09 pm
Quote
Daniel Scavino Jr. 5 hrs ·
President Trump and VP Pence received a briefing on #HurricaneDorian earlier today in the Oval Office...

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70208835_2370029903212732_6077213251634987008_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_oc=AQmsxdlYtf_ONECt4Y0OEam5ur8WAPvE3rL2ezod2vUMgsifMHuozT5EqirOXtLIAiN4zNsuhbhq0pafNhKBJqFL&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=ab64339420fe148b36350cd9594ad4de&oe=5DC9EF8B)

[Side note:  I like and appreciate that POTUS includes Pence in nearly everything.  This will serve Pence (and us) well if/when he chooses to run for President.]
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 30, 2019, 04:04:17 pm
Hurricane Dorian forecast to strike Florida overnight into Tuesday as Category 4: Live updates
ABC News, Aug 30, 2019, 11:38 AM ET

Dangerous Hurricane Dorian is strengthening and forecast to make landfall on Florida's east coast overnight into Tuesday as a Category 4 storm.

Now forecast to approach Florida with winds of 140 mph, Dorian, should it make landfall at those wind speeds, would become just the ninth hurricane to do so, dating back to 1851.

The latest forecast shows Dorian making landfall Monday night into Tuesday morning between Vero Beach and Fort Lauderdale, but different models show the hurricane taking different paths after landfall.

(https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/weather-2-190830_hpEmbed_16x9_992.jpg)


Most models are predicting Dorian will make a sharp turn north.

If Dorian continues on that track, Orlando and Jacksonville may see heavy rain, gusty winds and significant flooding. Dorian would then move north to coastal Georgia and South Carolina, where rain, storm surge and flooding is a threat.

Other models forecast a path across Florida, into the Gulf of Mexico and then by the Panhandle.


More:  https://abcnews.go.com/US/dorian-9th-hurricane-140-mph-winds-strike-florida/story?id=65287842

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Wingnut on August 30, 2019, 05:03:20 pm
(https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69449799_2534476170113834_6870061074855493632_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_eui2=AeEs8iMT79-7Z3494R_w4n4IXCKRrWCJmKTM00FX34b_zjABY7I5x-2Hp6ud2n7UqSeNdOjZFaB9ypxWkADnD3gBcwf8j_zlDguEzmg6M5X0PQ&_nc_oc=AQl-wbiiai0G9JReZxFCSG2uYFhobMvkUTsCNCXEkihsJw9eUlNEvCn9DXKhJQZnR60&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-1.xx&oh=6d738a00fdc286ba2856f5a3078d9965&oe=5E0A8B47)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: 240B on August 30, 2019, 07:00:30 pm

Dorian Becomes a Major Hurricane and Could Strike Florida as a Cat 4
By weather.com meteorologistsless than an hour ago

Dorian Is Now a Major, Cat 3 Hurricane
Dorian has strengthened into a major Category 3 hurricane in the Atlantic. Meteorologist Kait Parker has the latest information.

At a Glance
https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/2019-08-30-hurricane-dorian-florida-southeast-bahamas-forecast (https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/2019-08-30-hurricane-dorian-florida-southeast-bahamas-forecast)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: mystery-ak on August 30, 2019, 07:18:42 pm
Trump's prized Winter White House Mar-a-Lago resort is in the direct path of Hurricane Dorian, to the amusement of dark-humored Twitter trolls

    Mar-a-Lago, Trump's resort that sits on the barrier island of Palm Beach, may be hit by Hurricane Dorian
    Memes flooded social media, 'asking' the storm to damage parts of the estate
    One talk show host tweeted that the resort will likely not suffer any damage but the surrounding poor areas will be damaged
    Trump received a $17 million insurance payment for hurricane damage to the resort in 2005

By Associated Press and Mary Kekatos For Dailymail.com

Published: 13:48 EDT, 30 August 2019 | Updated: 15:12 EDT, 30 August 2019


President Donald Trump's prized Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida is potentially sitting directly in the path of Hurricane Dorian, which is forecast to become an extremely destructive storm.

The resort, which is currently closed for the summer, is on the wealthy barrier island of Palm Beach.

During the cooler months, Trump visits the property frequently and has held several high-level meetings there with world leaders.

According to the National Hurricane Center's most recent track for Dorian, Mar-a-Lago is right in the crosshairs of a possible Category 4 storm with winds of almost 140mph when it hits on Monday.

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/08/30/18/17883440-7411903-image-a-66_1567187014693.jpg)

more
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7411903/Trumps-prized-Mar-Lago-resort-path-Hurricane-Dorian-amusement-Twitter-trolls.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7411903/Trumps-prized-Mar-Lago-resort-path-Hurricane-Dorian-amusement-Twitter-trolls.html)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on August 30, 2019, 07:26:48 pm
Gee, I hope my tax dollars go to repairing Donald Trump's property.  Yeah, that'll show him!
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: mystery-ak on August 31, 2019, 01:47:10 am
Dorian strengthens to Category 4 hurricane
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/459511-dorian-strengthens-to-category-4-hurricane (https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/459511-dorian-strengthens-to-category-4-hurricane)


National Hurricane Center
@NHC_Atlantic
#Dorian has strengthened to an extremely dangerous category 4 hurricane.  For details go to:
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCUAT5+shtml/310027.shtml (https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCUAT5+shtml/310027.shtml)



000
WTNT65 KNHC 310027
TCUAT5

Hurricane Dorian Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL       AL052019
830 PM EDT Fri Aug 30 2019

...DORIAN STRENGTHENS TO A CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE...

Data from the NOAA Hurricane Hunters indicate that Dorian has
strengthened to an extremely dangerous category 4 hurricane with
maximum sustained winds near 130 mph (215 km/h). This increase in
intensity will be reflected in the forecast issued at 1100 pm EDT
(0300 UTC).

SUMMARY OF 830 PM AST...0030 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...25.3N 71.0W
ABOUT 400 MI...645 KM E OF THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS
ABOUT 575 MI...925 KM E OF WEST PALM BEACH FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...130 MPH...215 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 300 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...950 MB...28.05 INCHES

$$
Forecaster Cangialosi/Latto
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 31, 2019, 01:53:18 am
Winds 130 MPH, moving only 10MPH.  This one is going to dump a lot of rain wherever it hits.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Sanguine on August 31, 2019, 01:53:39 am
(https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69449799_2534476170113834_6870061074855493632_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_eui2=AeEs8iMT79-7Z3494R_w4n4IXCKRrWCJmKTM00FX34b_zjABY7I5x-2Hp6ud2n7UqSeNdOjZFaB9ypxWkADnD3gBcwf8j_zlDguEzmg6M5X0PQ&_nc_oc=AQl-wbiiai0G9JReZxFCSG2uYFhobMvkUTsCNCXEkihsJw9eUlNEvCn9DXKhJQZnR60&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-1.xx&oh=6d738a00fdc286ba2856f5a3078d9965&oe=5E0A8B47)

@The Ghost, are you in a good place in case this storm comes after you?
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Wingnut on August 31, 2019, 01:58:22 am
@The Ghost, are you in a good place in case this storm comes after you?

@Sanguine  I am always in a good place! 333cleo

But yeah, like I said before, this thing is going north.  The Fake weather people are punking everyone for ratings.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Sanguine on August 31, 2019, 02:00:26 am
@Sanguine  I am always in a good place! 333cleo

But yeah, like I said before, this thing is going north.  The Fake weather people are punking everyone for ratings.

I'm gonna hold you to that.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Wingnut on August 31, 2019, 02:04:32 am
I'm gonna hold you to that.
No problem. :cool:  The European models are always better predictors. They agree with my assessment of the track after Sunday.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 31, 2019, 02:15:12 am
No problem. :cool:  The European models are always better predictors. They agree with my assessment of the track after Sunday.

Well, I'm glad it's you, and not me soaking up all that Hurricane experience.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: 240B on August 31, 2019, 02:20:52 am
But yeah, like I said before, this thing is going north.  The Fake weather people are punking everyone for ratings.
We will know by Sunday. Only 2 of 12 tracks on weather.com have the thing going North.
Best of Luck to everyone.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 31, 2019, 02:28:17 am
I swiped this from Bookface....

(https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69733754_2642091605803909_3953500563991166976_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_oc=AQlxPV4G12JM-G6RkXX5RRpTX3_0WPZLdSE-eyI2B2TonFmIYBedM6lnn-3-_TOHGQg&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=92f57cf2ce6cdbca990fa29a045ea500&oe=5E0E3529)

I don't know where or when.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Wingnut on August 31, 2019, 02:28:57 am
Well, I'm glad it's you, and not me soaking up all that Hurricane experience.
I identify with hurricanes.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: catfish1957 on August 31, 2019, 02:53:06 am
We will know by Sunday. Only 2 of 12 tracks on weather.com have the thing going North.
Best of Luck to everyone.

Major track shift at 11:00 pm CDT advisory.  Worst case scenario IMO.  Forecast track has it as a Cat 4 storm approaching, then hugging the coast northward toward, N. Florida, Ga, and then possibly the Carolinas.

(https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT05/refresh/AL052019_5day_cone_with_line_and_wind+png/024334_5day_cone_with_line_and_wind.png)

Conceivabiliy, the entire coast from Miami to Charleston could see hurricane force wind, with this track.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Sanguine on August 31, 2019, 02:56:40 am
This seems called for:

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZdAUKhr3j4&ytbChannel=MrMidniteBluez#)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Neverdul on August 31, 2019, 03:45:22 am
(https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69449799_2534476170113834_6870061074855493632_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_eui2=AeEs8iMT79-7Z3494R_w4n4IXCKRrWCJmKTM00FX34b_zjABY7I5x-2Hp6ud2n7UqSeNdOjZFaB9ypxWkADnD3gBcwf8j_zlDguEzmg6M5X0PQ&_nc_oc=AQl-wbiiai0G9JReZxFCSG2uYFhobMvkUTsCNCXEkihsJw9eUlNEvCn9DXKhJQZnR60&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-1.xx&oh=6d738a00fdc286ba2856f5a3078d9965&oe=5E0A8B47)

It's all fine and well to point out and criticize the sometimes over-hyper and dire news coverage of these storms or when the forecasters get it all wrong. But on the other hand, it wasn’t really all that long ago when people had little to no warning.

Of course the great Galveston Hurricane comes to mind - people were told that a hurricane would never hit Galveston because the curve of the Gulf Coast protected it and we all know what happened, but also the 1938 New England hurricane. I watched a documentary about the 1938 storm not long ago.

At the time, it was accepted that hurricanes coming that far north would either weaken over cold water or turn sharply out to sea well before hitting New England.

At the time there were no satellites or Doppler radar or hurricane hunter planes or computer modeling and often the only reports came from ships at sea, but there was often a delay in those reports and if the ships steered far enough away from the storm, reports were few if any.

28 year-old rookie Charles Pierce was standing in for two veteran meteorologists. Pierce was more of a new breed of scientific weather forecaster who analyzed high and low pressure fronts rather than relying on past history and often intuition and old fashioned gut instinct as his older peers did.   He concluded that the storm would be squeezed between a high-pressure area located to the west and a high-pressure area to the east, and that it would be forced to ride up a trough of low pressure into New England. He was overruled by the veteran meteorologists and no hurricane warning was issued. Only a few hours later hurricane force winds started lashing the New England coast, and then the storm surge came. Over 600 people died. Over a dozen children and their bus driver died when their school bus got swept away trying to cross a narrow causeway when a big storm surge came. Of course now days, based on modern forecasts, people would get a warning and schools would have been closed, etc.

Of course a dire prediction of a storm when it doesn’t come to pass or isn’t as bad as foretasted can lull one into a false sense of security or piss one off when plans are changed.

My husband and I went on a golf vacation to Myrtle Beach the week of Christmas and New Year’s, I think it was 1999. Mid-week we saw dire forecasts of a major east coast blizzard – potentially the "storm of the century" hitting the day before our vacation was to end and through which we would be driving home from SC to Maryland. Long story short, the storm never materialized and back home, on the day the great blizzard was supposed to be happening, it was near 50 degrees and sunny. I was sorely pissed because leaving a day early meant not going to Charleston. I missed out on our day trip but if the forecast would have been correct and we didn't leave a day early, ahead of the storm, we might have end up stranded on I-95 somewhere between DC and Baltimore in a blizzard. Not my idea of a fun way to end a vacation.

Then on the other hand I remember the Blizzard of 1983 when the weather forecast was for a little light snow – a dusting to an inch. 28+ inches later with hurricane force winds, thunder snow, temps in the single digits, phone and power disruptions and being stuck at work for the next 36 hours, sleeping on a hard floor with nothing but my coat for a bed, crackers and potato chips from the snack machine to eat and missing my own surprise birthday party (well there wasn’t really a party per se but my then fiancée, future husband and out best friends who were stuck at their home had a party anyway and called me at work to let me know, when they could finally get a call out because the phone system was in chaos and jammed  – they were going to attempt to rescue me but Ray’s 4-wheel drive got stuck at the end of his driveway). I remember as the snow kept falling and becoming heavier and heavier, the weather guy on WBAL radio kept changing the forecast – “one to two inches”, then “3-4”, then “4-6” and so and so on until when nearly 20 inches had fallen and the wind was causing major drifts , and I’ll never forget it, he said “we really don’t know how much snow we are going to get but it’s going to be a whole lot”. LOL!

But when they get it right they get it right. For instance, the Blizzard of January 2016. A predication of 30+ inches of snow was spot on. 32 inches fell where I lived and my Toyota Yaris was completely covered in snow, the only way to see my car was there was that the very top of the antenna was sticking up out of the snow drift. But for that storm, I was working an office job and took my laptop home, my boss insisted we not try to come to work if the roads were bad, so I could work as necessary and I stocked up on food and supplies a few days ahead of the storm, and it was a good thing I did because it took me 3 days after the storm finally ended to finally dig my car out. And despite the hype and people thinking it was all hype, the predictions on Superstorm Sandy, especially the storm surge for Lower Manhattan the surrounding areas was also very accurate.

My point is, I’d rather be warned and to prepare even if turns out to be a false alarm rather than to have no idea of what is possibly coming and not be at all prepared.

YMMV
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: catfish1957 on August 31, 2019, 03:57:52 am
My point is, I’d rather be warned and to prepare even if turns out to be a false alarm rather than to have no idea of what is possibly coming and not be at all prepared.

YMMV

Well put.  I don't want to give anyone any false hopes, but often model trends can continue after subsequent runs.  And if the latest shift is any indication of that, this could.....  REPEAT could ...    be a Fish storm.  But till then, I'd treat this as the monster that the NHC describes, and prepare accordingly.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Victoria33 on August 31, 2019, 04:00:19 am
Am hearing tonight, it may get to a 5, is close to that now.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Neverdul on August 31, 2019, 04:24:40 am
Well put.  I don't want to give anyone any false hopes, but often model trends can continue after subsequent runs.  And if the latest shift is any indication of that, this could.....  REPEAT could ...    be a Fish storm.  But till then, I'd treat this as the monster that the NHC describes, and prepare accordingly.

The thing is that most storm preparations, if planned ahead, esp. if you live in a hurricane zone, or for that matter anywhere or for any emergency - bottled water, batteries, candles, canned or other non-perishable food, a basic disaster plan, it isn't wasted.

When the forecast for the 2016 blizzard looked like a real possibility- 30 plus inches and high winds, possible power outages, I filled my gas tank, made sure my Rx's for my HBP were filled, I bought a case of water and Gatorade, instant coffee (I had gas cooking and even if the power went out I could still light the stove with a light or match as long as the gas was on) batteries and a new flashlight in case of a power outage and some food that didn't need necessarily need refrigeration or power to cook and eat. I lived in an apartment at the time so things like a generator or a snow blower were not possible, but I could prepare for a few days of inconvenience in case I couldn't get out for a couple of days.

If the storm never came, none of the things I got in preparation would have be wasted.

The thing is that after a disaster, you never hear people complain that they were over prepared. What you hear are the people who choose to ride it out after being told to evacuate or people who were not prepared and after the fact, wish they had, often saying "I really didn't think it was going to be this bad".



Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: EdJames on August 31, 2019, 06:32:36 am
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsBHlzkwHz0#)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: EdJames on August 31, 2019, 06:34:59 am

...

The thing is that after a disaster, you never hear people complain that they were over prepared. What you hear are the people who choose to ride it out after being told to evacuate or people who were not prepared and after the fact, wish they had, often saying "I really didn't think it was going to be this bad".

Wisdom.    pointing-up
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 31, 2019, 07:43:54 am
@Neverdul

I'm one of those who scoffs at spaghetti models and all the hype, but I was reading a couple of lists of worst hurricanes in terms of loss of life and property damage.  Seems many of the worst storms occurred at times when there was no technology to predict storms nor the means to communicate to the average person that a storm was coming.  What frosted me about Katrina was that everyone knew she was approaching, but no one in NO was prepared.  We had a population so dependent on government, it couldn't or wouldn't think to get the *bleep* out.  And the tragedy that followed was blamed on President Bush.

So in this instance with Dorian, I'm ok with all the hoopla.  Only thing I don't like is, whenever Dorian hits or wherever, news outlets will have some poor soul standing outside in the wind and rain to tell us that -- yes, it's windy and rainy outside.  Not too many things scare me, but when I see some reporter hanging on for dear life, I actually fear he/she is going to get killed.  I guess the news media won't stop this foolish and dangerous practice till one of their reporters dies.

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: roamer_1 on August 31, 2019, 08:30:46 am
If the storm never came, none of the things I got in preparation would have be wasted.

The thing is that after a disaster, you never hear people complain that they were over prepared. What you hear are the people who choose to ride it out after being told to evacuate or people who were not prepared and after the fact, wish they had, often saying "I really didn't think it was going to be this bad".

That's one of the things I like about country living... Prepping is just a matter of course. I could easy live for a year on what's in the house (I know, I've seen me do it)... There's always 4 cord of wood laying around here, so heat is not ever a problem... I have lanterns and white gas, there's 150 gals of gas and 300 gals of diesel in the tanks, and usually there's another 60 gals in the pickup and another 100 or so in the transfer tank.

If I lose power right now, the only real worry I have is the fridge and freezers, and I have a generator for that... Cooking ain't a problem with the wood fired barbecue, and will be even better when the outdoor kitchen is finished on the porch... Heck, the worst trouble I would have is getting out the transfer tank for water and pumping it full from the creek... and heating water for baths.

Going off-grid can suck, but being naturally ready for it, it really ain't all that bad.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: catfish1957 on August 31, 2019, 09:06:29 am
Well put.  I don't want to give anyone any false hopes, but often model trends can continue after subsequent runs.  And if the latest shift is any indication of that, this could.....  REPEAT could ...    be a Fish storm.  But till then, I'd treat this as the monster that the NHC describes, and prepare accordingly.

Note my prior post.  And Poof, 4am advisory now has this a SC landfalling storm.  Based on path, FL would still get hurricane force winds, but this is a hell of a lot better scenario for them (if realized, and surge specifically) than it was a brief 12 hours ago.   Remmeber, this at least for now is a relatively small storm, and hurricane winds only expected generally 50 miles from center.

The way the models are trending, all the Carolinas should be additonally preparing quickly.

(https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT05/refresh/AL052019_5day_cone_with_line_and_wind+png/024334_5day_cone_with_line_and_wind.png)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Gefn on August 31, 2019, 11:38:25 am
Prayers for those in Florida. Members and guests.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Victoria33 on August 31, 2019, 12:56:05 pm
Winds 130 MPH, moving only 10MPH.  This one is going to dump a lot of rain wherever it hits.
@Cyber Liberty

I have been through a number of hurricanes, which is why I became a "prepper".  I can live for over a year and have TV, plus radio with TV in it, short wave radio, 8 ways to cook, power as long as I want it, heating, cooling, medical supplies, purified water as long as I need it, years worth of 20 yr. food, hot coffee every morning is a must, light as long as I need it, and more.

Due to my preps, I don't have to go to grocery store when other people were cleaning it out before hurricane got there.  The only thing I bought was ice the day before it got there, and I went to a small Mexican grocery store nearby to get ice since people were buying it out in big stores. I always had my car at least half full of gas, but filled it up before people bought it out.
How to do this is in my book, below.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: mystery-ak on August 31, 2019, 01:29:38 pm
Hurricane Dorian strengthens and shifts, now expected to make landfall in Carolinas: Live updates

    By
    max golembo
    andemily shapiro

Aug 31, 2019, 9:24 AM ET

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more
https://abcnews.go.com/US/hurricane-dorian-now-expected-miss-florida-possibly-make/story?id=65309495
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: mountaineer on August 31, 2019, 01:44:06 pm
Now I'm reading the hurricane will hit the Carolinas more directly than Florida.
Quote
Hurricane Dorian's forecast shifts, putting the Carolinas and Georgia in play along with Florida
By Christina Maxouris, CNN
1 hr ago


Hurricane Dorian's forecast track has become a little murkier, with the range of possibilities for landfall now including not just Florida but also the coasts of Georgia and the Carolinas.

In fact, most models now project Dorian -- now a Category 4 storm -- staying just off Florida's coast Tuesday and Wednesday and eventually crashing into South Carolina's coast Wednesday or Thursday.

Still, there's a lot of uncertainty in the forecast, with the storm still days away from the US coast.  ...
link (https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/hurricane-dorians-forecast-shifts-putting-the-carolinas-and-georgia-in-play-along-with-florida/ar-AAGBFlC?li=BBnb7Kz)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 31, 2019, 01:46:23 pm
Yikes! My brother and his wife were supposed to vacation in Myrtle Beach next week.  Guess not.
 
Adding prayers for the people in NC and SC.

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 31, 2019, 01:54:34 pm
@Cyber Liberty

I have been through a number of hurricanes, which is why I became a "prepper".  I can live for over a year and have TV, plus radio with TV in it, short wave radio, 8 ways to cook, power as long as I want it, heating, cooling, medical supplies, purified water as long as I need it, years worth of 20 yr. food, hot coffee every morning is a must, light as long as I need it, and more.

Due to my preps, I don't have to go to grocery store when other people were cleaning it out before hurricane got there.  The only thing I bought was ice the day before it got there, and I went to a small Mexican grocery store nearby to get ice since people were buying it out in big stores. I always had my car at least half full of gas, but filled it up before people bought it out.
How to do this is in my book, below.

The book is great!
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: mystery-ak on August 31, 2019, 01:59:33 pm
'Extremely dangerous' Hurricane Dorian's path shifts towards Georgia and Carolinas; Florida still in its sights
https://www.foxnews.com/us/hurricane-dorian-strengthens-to-category-4-storm-as-it-heads-toward-florida (https://www.foxnews.com/us/hurricane-dorian-strengthens-to-category-4-storm-as-it-heads-toward-florida)


National Hurricane Center
✔
@NHC_Atlantic

8/31 8 AM EDT: There's been a notable change overnight to the forecast of #Dorian after Tuesday. It should be stressed that the new forecast track does not preclude Dorian making landfall on the Florida coast, as large portions of the coast remain in the track cone of uncertainty
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDS-Fu3UwAAUsZO?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: mystery-ak on August 31, 2019, 02:18:02 pm
Florida military bases move warships, aircraft ahead of Hurricane Dorian
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-military-bases-evacuate-warships-aircraft-hurricane-dorian (https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-military-bases-evacuate-warships-aircraft-hurricane-dorian)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Bigun on August 31, 2019, 03:32:10 pm
In this part of the world, the rotation of any tropical storm tries to push the storm away from a landmass. This is why they ALL make a northward turn before making landfall. If steering currents in the immediate area of the storm are weak the storm may not ever come ashore due to this factor alone.

Just for general information.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 31, 2019, 03:46:42 pm
Looked helpful ...

Quote
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

HurricaneDorian‏ #Hurricane
Verified accountï‚™ @RedCross 


The free Red Cross Emergency App puts real-time weather alerts, open Red Cross shelter locations and #hurricane tips in the palm of your hand. Download today: http://3cu.be/shareeme (http://3cu.be/shareeme)  #Dorian

2:01 PM - 29 Aug 2019

https://twitter.com/RedCross/status/1167180590271139842 (https://twitter.com/RedCross/status/1167180590271139842)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 31, 2019, 03:53:47 pm
Looked helpful ...

A Red Cross app?  Does it automatically download cash from your Google Wallet?   :whistle:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Bigun on August 31, 2019, 03:56:21 pm
A Red Cross app?  Does it automatically download cash from your Google Wallet?   :whistle:

I looked for it in the app store and banned it!
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 31, 2019, 04:07:58 pm
I looked for it in the app store and banned it!

I always keep an 11-foot pole around for touching things like that....
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 31, 2019, 05:14:58 pm
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Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Wingnut on August 31, 2019, 05:23:01 pm
(https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69850019_10215735990576699_4453947361592344576_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_eui2=AeHBv62BNMJIuX8lmS1HhUDRGMhoghfdB4EowXnu5YFoXR-mtuXB6HJU6lbAa_DcRWqck85p-wjcSqOSpjyUk-j0UkIInKeBozhv9vO625CsgA&_nc_oc=AQljuz0GvLHOvxhJN1mpJUHDxs4H-n2mfkHjMsSNkR1UHFzR3VQAi9XjMNrlpqZ98JQ&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-1.xx&oh=4317dfae83214270b3f87d372f3399dd&oe=5E07B991)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Sanguine on August 31, 2019, 05:24:08 pm
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I love that!
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: mystery-ak on August 31, 2019, 05:53:22 pm
Hurricane Dorian nears Category 5 with 150 mph winds, Trump warns it could be one of the 'strongest' storms in decades
https://www.foxnews.com/us/hurricane-dorian-near-category-5-trump-strongest-storms-decades (https://www.foxnews.com/us/hurricane-dorian-near-category-5-trump-strongest-storms-decades)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 31, 2019, 06:05:49 pm
Hurricane Dorian nears Category 5 with 150 mph winds, Trump warns it could be one of the 'strongest' storms in decades
https://www.foxnews.com/us/hurricane-dorian-near-category-5-trump-strongest-storms-decades (https://www.foxnews.com/us/hurricane-dorian-near-category-5-trump-strongest-storms-decades)

"Cat 5?"  Uh oh....might have to edit the title again.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 31, 2019, 06:07:34 pm
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HsMVUWZ0jlM/V_X74aUFXII/AAAAAAAADHk/s3TIOYli48IBTmV3qAeB2zrpjovgROcbgCLcB/s1600/cats%2Bstorm.jpg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Applewood on August 31, 2019, 06:18:11 pm
Donation page for the Salvation Army:

https://give.helpsalvationarmy.org/give/166081/#!/donation/checkout
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Victoria33 on August 31, 2019, 06:29:52 pm
The book is great!
@Cyber Liberty

I wrote that book to save lives - 284 pages.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 31, 2019, 06:48:51 pm
While we wait for Dorian to make up its mind ..... a little trip through the media hall of fame   88devil

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(https://i.redd.it/bwn6u0yrywkz.gif)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: mountaineer on August 31, 2019, 06:50:33 pm
A plastic bag on the head probably is the right course of action for most CNN reporters and reporterettes.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: mystery-ak on August 31, 2019, 06:54:34 pm
Gee...is Holly okay?
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 31, 2019, 06:56:25 pm
My personal favorite....  "The holy men"  :laugh:

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR3EkRW_Zu8#)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 31, 2019, 07:00:41 pm
Gee...is Holly okay?

Yes.  According to Snopes the gif is not factual.  But kudos to whoever created it.   :laugh:


Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: mystery-ak on August 31, 2019, 09:08:14 pm
South Carolina gov declares state of emergency after Dorian shifts course
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/459535-south-carolina-gov-declares-state-of-emergency-after-dorian-shifts
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Gefn on August 31, 2019, 09:11:46 pm
Thanks for all the updates @mystery-ak
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 01, 2019, 02:43:44 am
Hurricane Dorian’s path is now expected to turn north before reaching Florida.

(http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/weather/hurricanes/2019/08/31/18603542/Capture-DMID1-5jzy7qw80-640x360.jpg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Sanguine on September 01, 2019, 02:45:03 am
Hurricane Dorian’s path is now expected to turn north before reaching Florida.

(http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/weather/hurricanes/2019/08/31/18603542/Capture-DMID1-5jzy7qw80-640x360.jpg)

Good news for Florida.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 01, 2019, 03:50:11 am
Good news for Florida.

Good news for Georgia, it looks like. :shrug:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Gefn on September 01, 2019, 12:04:07 pm
AP just reported that Dorian is now a category 5
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 4 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: mountaineer on September 01, 2019, 12:20:03 pm
National Hurricane Center  @NHC_Atlantic
NEW: #Dorian is now a category 5 #hurricane with 160 mph sustained winds.   The eyewall of this catastrophic hurricane is about to hit the Abaco Islands with devastating winds.  Next advisory: http://hurricanes.gov (http://hurricanes.gov)
Image
7:56 AM · Sep 1, 2019
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Sanguine on September 01, 2019, 01:45:53 pm
Quote
Hurricane Dorian grows to Category 5 menace as northern Bahamas hunkers down

McLEAN'S TOWN CAY, Bahamas — An already dangerous Hurricane Dorian intensified yet again Sunday as it closed in on the northern Bahamas, threatening to batter islands with Category 5-strength winds, pounding waves and torrential rain as people hunkered down in schools, churches and other shelters.

The National Hurricane Center in Miami said Dorian's maximum sustained winds have increased to 160 mph, up from 150 mph. It is moving west at 8 mph. "Devastating hurricane conditions" are expected in the Abacos Islands early Sunday and across Grand Bahama Island later in the day, the center said.

Millions from Florida to the Carolinas kept a wary eye on Dorian, meanwhile, amid indications it would veer sharply northeastward after passing the Bahamas and track up the U.S. Southeast seaboard. But authorities warned even if its core did not make U.S. landfall and stayed offshore, the potent storm would likely hammer U.S. coastal areas with powerful winds and heavy surf....

https://www.wacotrib.com/news/national/hurricane-dorian-grows-to-category-menace-as-northern-bahamas-hunkers/article_32a74d27-f723-563f-bd25-92f50966353b.html (https://www.wacotrib.com/news/national/hurricane-dorian-grows-to-category-menace-as-northern-bahamas-hunkers/article_32a74d27-f723-563f-bd25-92f50966353b.html)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: PeteS in CA on September 01, 2019, 01:58:20 pm
While a former PM of Canuckia is probably disappointed there's pretty much no "good" place for a hurricane to make landfall.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 01, 2019, 02:15:13 pm
AP just reported that Dorian is now a category 5

Shit just got real.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 01, 2019, 02:41:37 pm
Could someone here help me and my pea brain out here?    A hurricane can just sit and spin and not make landfall?  Sounds rather unusual to me.  Seems every hurricane I've heard of made landfall somewhere.   :shrug:

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Bigun on September 01, 2019, 03:08:42 pm
Could someone here help me and my pea brain out here?    A hurricane can just sit and spin and not make landfall?  Sounds rather unusual to me.  Seems every hurricane I've heard of made landfall somewhere.   :shrug:

They can and often do just sit and spin until some steering current comes along and gets it moving again.  Many never do make landfall on any continental landmass.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 01, 2019, 03:18:05 pm
They can and often do just sit and spin until some steering current comes along and gets it moving again.  Many never do make landfall on any continental landmass.

Thanks @Bigun   If this storm just parks, it could be more devastating than if it made landfall.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 01, 2019, 03:20:24 pm
Could someone here help me and my pea brain out here?    A hurricane can just sit and spin and not make landfall?  Sounds rather unusual to me.  Seems every hurricane I've heard of made landfall somewhere.   :shrug:

Actually, many, if not most, Hurricanes never make landfall.  While Dorian has been churning up from TS to Cat 5, Erin was in the Atlantic, but never made it to dry land before dying off Newfoundland.  Current maps I've seen for Dorian show there is an excellent chance the eye never makes it ashore, either.  That said, there will be craptons of rain pouring down from Florida to Virginia when he gets close.  Winds all along that area will be very high, too, along with the storm surge.

Still very dangerous, only it seems likely that danger is going to be spread through many Atlantic States.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Bigun on September 01, 2019, 03:22:06 pm
Thanks @Bigun   If this storm just parks, it could be more devastating than if it made landfall.

Absolutely @Applewood.  That is basically what happened with Hurricane Harvey two years ago.   56" of rain at my place and I'm nearly 100 miles inland.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Gefn on September 01, 2019, 03:25:46 pm
Any news if it’s going up the coast towards The Boswash corridor?
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: cato potatoe on September 01, 2019, 03:36:18 pm
Hopefully the 11,000 residents of Eleuthera have evacuated.  The storm surge is bound to be impressive.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 01, 2019, 03:41:23 pm
Hurricane Dorian: Bahamas slammed by category five storm

Quote
Hurricane Dorian is slamming into the north-western Bahamas as a catastrophic category five storm, expected to bring devastating winds and very heavy rain.

The "extremely dangerous" storm is the strongest ever hurricane recorded in the area, the US National Hurricane Center (NHC) said, with winds of up to 180mph (285km/h).

Grand Bahama residents have been evacuating from its predicted path.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49541485 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49541485)

***

If nothing else, I'm getting geography lessons.  I just found out where Great Aboco is.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 01, 2019, 03:48:42 pm
Any news if it’s going up the coast towards The Boswash corridor?

All I'm seeing are predictions up to this Thursday for North Carolina. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Gefn on September 01, 2019, 04:42:19 pm
LIVE: Category 5 Dorian nearing landfall in Bahamas with 220-mph wind gusts

As Dorian makes landfall on the Bahamas with winds of 180-mph, it is now the strongest hurricane to hit the Bahamas region in modern records. Only four storms in the Atlantic have ever exceeded a wind speed of 180-mph. President Trump warns it could be among 'strongest' to hit in decades.

"Dorian has become the strongest hurricane in modern records for the northwestern Bahamas," the National Hurricane Center said on Sunday morning.

As of Sunday morning, Dorian was located about 20 miles east of Great Abaco island in the Bahamas. The powerful Category 5 hurricane was packing winds of 180-mph with higher gusts reaching 220-mph.


https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/live-hurricane-dorian-closes-in-on-bahamas-with-160-mph-winds/70009223 (https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/live-hurricane-dorian-closes-in-on-bahamas-with-160-mph-winds/70009223)


Holy cow! 220 mph!
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Gefn on September 01, 2019, 05:16:48 pm
Hurricane Dorian has made landfall on Elbow Cay in the Bahamas' Abaco Islands, the National Hurricane Center says.

Dorian became the strongest hurricane in modern records for the northwestern Bahamas after strengthening to a "catastrophic" Category 5, the National Hurricane Center said Sunday.

Large waves and heavy winds pounded the northern Bahamas as on Sunday as Hurricane Dorian barreled toward the islands. As of 11 a.m., the storm was about 20 miles east-northeast of the Bahamas' Great Abaco Island, and around 205 miles east of West Palm Beach in Florida, according to the center.

The center said Dorian's maximum sustained winds had increased to 185 mph as of 1 p.m., up from 180 mph, with wind gusts over 220 mph.
(Snip)

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Track-Dorian-Live-Hurricane-Now-a-Cat-5-With-160-MPH-Winds-559042021.html (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Track-Dorian-Live-Hurricane-Now-a-Cat-5-With-160-MPH-Winds-559042021.html)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Wingnut on September 01, 2019, 05:55:19 pm
:Yawn:

Someone wake me up when this BS is over.  I have the strong urge to punch a TV weather reader.

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Until 'cain season is over I hereby remove the title of "Nostradumbass" from AOC and award it to Meteorologist's everywhere
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: mystery-ak on September 01, 2019, 07:16:30 pm
Hurricane Dorian, Category 5 storm, makes landfall in Bahamas with 185 mph winds
Travis Fedschun
By Travis Fedschun | Fox News

   
Rick Reichmuth
✔
@rickreichmuth

185mph sustained winds, gusts to 220mph.  Tied at #2 for highest sustained winds on record in an Atlantic hurricane.  #hurricane #HurricaneDorian #Dorian #weather

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDZTutvXkAEuMMD?format=jpg&name=small)

more
https://www.foxnews.com/us/hurricane-dorian-bahamas-warning-florida-carolinas (https://www.foxnews.com/us/hurricane-dorian-bahamas-warning-florida-carolinas)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: corbe on September 01, 2019, 07:28:40 pm
(https://www.welovebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/yanet-garcia-gif-4.gif)

   Don't punch all of them @The Ghost and please spare @jmyrlefuller
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: 240B on September 01, 2019, 07:46:16 pm
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Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 01, 2019, 10:55:47 pm
:Yawn:

Someone wake me up when this BS is over.  I have the strong urge to punch a TV weather reader.

Until 'cain season is over I hereby remove the title of "Nostradumbass" from AOC and award it to Meteorologist's everywhere

You're in the Florida panhandle right?  instead of grousing, maybe you should be grateful you likely have been spared.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Victoria33 on September 01, 2019, 11:23:31 pm
@The Ghost

Friend, 6:21 pm, central time, it is now moving more west, covering land in Florida, not staying off the coast.  Maybe by Monday morning, the path will be more definite.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: roamer_1 on September 02, 2019, 12:03:43 am
:Yawn:

Someone wake me up when this BS is over.  I have the strong urge to punch a TV weather reader.

Until 'cain season is over I hereby remove the title of "Nostradumbass" from AOC and award it to Meteorologist's everywhere

Alright.. Except that Bastardi guy... He's got it bad enough already...
And besides, he seems to get it right more often.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Neverdul on September 02, 2019, 12:27:05 am
The National Weather Service said Hurricane Dorian is not expected to hit Alabama.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/01/national-weather-service-corrects-trump-on-hurricane-dorian.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/01/national-weather-service-corrects-trump-on-hurricane-dorian.html)

Alabama?

Already category 5? As opposed to say a category 11? Well I guess if it gets bigger than a category 5, it could theoretically hit Alabama?


 :shrug:

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: libertybele on September 02, 2019, 02:06:29 am
@The Ghost

Friend, 6:21 pm, central time, it is now moving more west, covering land in Florida, not staying off the coast.  Maybe by Monday morning, the path will be more definite.

??? Living here in FL I haven't heard anything definitive today about it covering land in FL.  The possibility is still there but most of the models show it staying just off the coast.

The hurricane has stalled over the Bahamas and they will continue to get battered -- the storm was moving only at 3mph!  Last forecast has it speeding up to 7 mph moving west and it is still uncertain when it is going to take that turn to the north -- we should know better by tomorrow.

Again, most of the hurricane projection models show it staying off the coast even as it veers north and I have not heard anything about it actually making landfall anywhere in the U.S.

With a Cat 5 coming towards the U.S., this is a better safe than sorry scenario and everyone along the eastern coast of FL, GA, SC, NC needs to be prepared.

I have lived in FL now for over 25 years and have been through several hurricanes.  It is silly not to evacuate for a hurricane over a CAT 3 and even at that, storm surge is always, always a consideration.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: mystery-ak on September 02, 2019, 02:12:04 am
??? Living here in FL I haven't heard anything definitive today about it covering land in FL.  The possibility is still there but most of the models show it staying just off the coast.

The hurricane has stalled over the Bahamas and they will continue to get battered -- the storm was moving only at 3mph!  Last forecast has it speeding up to 7 mph moving west and it is still uncertain when it is going to take that turn to the north -- we should know better by tomorrow.

Again, most of the hurricane projection models show it staying off the coast even as it veers north and I have not heard anything about it actually making landfall anywhere in the U.S.

With a Cat 5 coming towards the U.S., this is a better safe than sorry scenario and everyone along the eastern coast of FL, GA, SC, NC needs to be prepared.

You take care of yourself and family...please check in when you can...
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: libertybele on September 02, 2019, 02:19:38 am
You take care of yourself and family...please check in when you can...

Thank you @mystery-ak  we should be fine.  We live on the west coast of FL and have been out of the forecasted cone for 2 days. However, this is a very powerful hurricane and am praying that the predictions of it taking a northward turn are accurate; they predicted Charley's turn back in '04 wrong.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Wingnut on September 02, 2019, 02:20:34 am
@The Ghost

Friend, 6:21 pm, central time, it is now moving more west, covering land in Florida, not staying off the coast.  Maybe by Monday morning, the path will be more definite.

Nope.  Not going to happen.  As slow as this thing is It may never get here. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 02, 2019, 02:35:41 am
This link has videos of Dorian hitting the Bahamas:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/photos-and-videos-show-hurricane-dorian-pummeling-the-bahamas-with-rain-wind-and-massive-flooding-please-pray-for-us/ar-AAGErBq?ocid=spartandhp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/photos-and-videos-show-hurricane-dorian-pummeling-the-bahamas-with-rain-wind-and-massive-flooding-please-pray-for-us/ar-AAGErBq?ocid=spartandhp)

Just dam.   Nothing about casualties yet, but still praying for the residents. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: libertybele on September 02, 2019, 03:01:58 am
This link has videos of Dorian hitting the Bahamas:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/photos-and-videos-show-hurricane-dorian-pummeling-the-bahamas-with-rain-wind-and-massive-flooding-please-pray-for-us/ar-AAGErBq?ocid=spartandhp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/photos-and-videos-show-hurricane-dorian-pummeling-the-bahamas-with-rain-wind-and-massive-flooding-please-pray-for-us/ar-AAGErBq?ocid=spartandhp)

Just dam.   Nothing about casualties yet, but still praying for the residents.

It is absolutely catastrophic and Dorian is lingering over the Bahamas. Consider that there are sustained winds of 185 mph and gusts up to 220 mph; equivalent to an EF4 and EF5 tornado + they had a storm surge of 23 feet!  I can't even fathom what they are experiencing.  Prayers up!!
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: EdJames on September 02, 2019, 03:24:54 am
Satellite image that uses a background of city lights over land ... there is only a small distance between the densely populated SE Florida coastline and Hurricane #Dorian.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDbUuqrW4AA0AUv.jpg)

https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/1168355054522437635

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on September 02, 2019, 04:57:02 am
??? Living here in FL I haven't heard anything definitive today about it covering land in FL.  The possibility is still there but most of the models show it staying just off the coast.

The hurricane has stalled over the Bahamas and they will continue to get battered -- the storm was moving only at 3mph!  Last forecast has it speeding up to 7 mph moving west and it is still uncertain when it is going to take that turn to the north -- we should know better by tomorrow.

Again, most of the hurricane projection models show it staying off the coast even as it veers north and I have not heard anything about it actually making landfall anywhere in the U.S.

With a Cat 5 coming towards the U.S., this is a better safe than sorry scenario and everyone along the eastern coast of FL, GA, SC, NC needs to be prepared.

I have lived in FL now for over 25 years and have been through several hurricanes.  It is silly not to evacuate for a hurricane over a CAT 3 and even at that, storm surge is always, always a consideration.

I live on the very north shore of old/upper Tampa Bay.  While I do agree with you that it's best to be prudent (I trimmed my trees and topped off the gas tanks last week when this storm was a nothing), I suspect we'll be seeing the anti-surge (storms that go to the east of us actually push water out of the bay).
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on September 02, 2019, 04:59:15 am
Satellite image that uses a background of city lights over land ... there is only a small distance between the densely populated SE Florida coastline and Hurricane #Dorian.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDbUuqrW4AA0AUv.jpg)

https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/1168355054522437635

Thanks, man, that makes me feel much better.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Gefn on September 02, 2019, 06:10:32 am
It is absolutely catastrophic and Dorian is lingering over the Bahamas. Consider that there are sustained winds of 185 mph and gusts up to 220 mph; equivalent to an EF4 and EF5 tornado + they had a storm surge of 23 feet!  I can't even fathom what they are experiencing.  Prayers up!!

 :0001:

Amen
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Sighlass on September 02, 2019, 07:26:16 am
Down to 2mph western drift... basically it has stopped and is churning up the Bahama Islands. Airport areas (inside a concave area where the storm surge packs it in) is under 5 feet of water and eye not there yet.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: EdJames on September 02, 2019, 11:02:34 am
Thanks, man, that makes me feel much better.

No worries, bud, IF the predicated path verifies, we are looking at 2-4" of rain and about a 25% chance TS winds in the TB area....
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: DCPatriot on September 02, 2019, 11:18:29 am
Why couldn't 100 MOABS dropped over the eye wall break Dorian up?

...asking for a friend.    :laugh:

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Wingnut on September 02, 2019, 11:20:52 am
Why couldn't 100 MOABS dropped over the eye wall break Dorian up?

...asking for a friend.    :laugh:

What Liberals want FL to look like after Hurricane Dorian

(https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/boingboing/original/3X/5/a/5a4012ae0748af6a6d5f8f0a9d76b2ebb6356ebb.jpg)

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: DCPatriot on September 02, 2019, 11:22:14 am
What Liberals want FL to look like after Hurricane Dorian

(https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/boingboing/original/3X/5/a/5a4012ae0748af6a6d5f8f0a9d76b2ebb6356ebb.jpg)

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: 240B on September 02, 2019, 11:50:07 am
Why couldn't 100 MOABS dropped over the eye wall break Dorian up?

...asking for a friend.    :laugh:
General Patton vs. the Volcano

Yes, George Patton once attacked and bombed an erupting volcano.
https://pacificislandparks.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/general-patton-vs-the-volcano/ (https://pacificislandparks.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/general-patton-vs-the-volcano/)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 02, 2019, 01:31:55 pm
7-year-old boy is first reported Hurricane Dorian-related death

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McLEAN'S TOWN CAY, Bahamas - A 7-year-old boy from the Bahamas is reportedly the first death related to the catastrophic Hurricane Dorian.

According to The Bahama Press, Lachino Mcintosh drowned while his family was trying to relocate them from their home in Abaco. The boy's sister is also reportedly missing, according to a tweet sent out late Sunday by The Bahama Press.

https://www.fox46charlotte.com/news/7-year-old-boy-is-first-reported-hurricane-dorian-related-death (https://www.fox46charlotte.com/news/7-year-old-boy-is-first-reported-hurricane-dorian-related-death)

 :0001:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 02, 2019, 02:01:50 pm
Satellite image that uses a background of city lights over land ... there is only a small distance between the densely populated SE Florida coastline and Hurricane #Dorian.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDbUuqrW4AA0AUv.jpg)

https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/1168355054522437635

That eye is incredible!  The satellite images I've been seeing on FNC are simply amazing.  I was seeing some stories from Abaco online last night, and the folks were begging for prayers of salvation.  I see a boy died there.... 8888crybaby

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Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 02, 2019, 03:29:36 pm
Hurricane Dorian, now a Category 4 storm, pummels Bahamas

Quote
The National Hurricane Center says the storm is now a Category 4. The reports say its westward movement slowed almost to a standstill. The system crawled along Grand Bahama Island at just 1 mph (2 kph).

https://fox6now.com/2019/09/02/its-devastating-record-setting-hurricane-dorian-keeps-pounding-north-bahamas/
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Wingnut on September 02, 2019, 03:35:06 pm
Hurricane Dorian, now a Category 4 storm, pummels Bahamas

https://fox6now.com/2019/09/02/its-devastating-record-setting-hurricane-dorian-keeps-pounding-north-bahamas/

Going to be a 3 later today. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: libertybele on September 02, 2019, 06:57:08 pm
Going to be a 3 later today.


....hmm have not heard that they are expecting it to weaken to a 3 today, I've only heard that it has weakened to a strong Cat 4 just below a Cat 5.  Still stalled over the Bahamas and still creeping NW @ 1mph.  The Bahamas are still getting pummeled and deaths are starting to be reported. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Wingnut on September 02, 2019, 07:13:40 pm

....hmm have not heard that they are expecting it to weaken to a 3 today, I've only heard that it has weakened to a strong Cat 4 just below a Cat 5.  Still stalled over the Bahamas and still creeping NW @ 1mph.  The Bahamas are still getting pummeled and deaths are starting to be reported.

My Model has been revised because Dorian has basically parked its ass of the East coast of FL.
New Update is as follows.


Category 3 Hurricane

Forecast:Wed, Sep 04, 7:00 am
Moving N at 10mph

Still no land fall predicted between now and Wed Morning.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: mystery-ak on September 02, 2019, 09:13:20 pm
Devastating footage starts coming in from Bahamas’ unprecedented destruction
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/09/02/devastating-footage-starts-coming-in-from-bahamas-unprecedented-destruction-813465 (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/09/02/devastating-footage-starts-coming-in-from-bahamas-unprecedented-destruction-813465)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: mystery-ak on September 02, 2019, 09:17:43 pm
Almost 13K Homes in Bahamas Destroyed, Damaged by Hurricane Dorian
https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/02/almost-13k-homes-in-bahamas-destroyed-damaged-by-hurricane-dorian/ (https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/02/almost-13k-homes-in-bahamas-destroyed-damaged-by-hurricane-dorian/)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: 240B on September 02, 2019, 09:20:10 pm
It may be weakening in terms of Category level, but at the same time it is enlarging in terms of circumference.
While it is decreasing in power, it is increasing in the amount of what it will affect.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 02, 2019, 09:37:30 pm
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgygOB8TFnc#)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Wingnut on September 02, 2019, 09:43:56 pm
NOAA Dorian update

(https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69559690_2643116055718725_3600841606770458624_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_oc=AQnJ4hJgRg2ExOs_lSrow5D5fyJSGuONjbb-es-auMnilItiulwrkYv4Gw4CaLD_X9w&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-1.xx&oh=067e980041ad2620522af18ccd74d930&oe=5DFDAD01)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 02, 2019, 09:53:22 pm
CAT 5 HURRICANE DORIAN (BEFORE, DURING & AFTER) IN BAHAMAS 2019- BrBpTV

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmW6uk2ijo#)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Fishrrman on September 02, 2019, 10:29:26 pm
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=297.61,41.35,459
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: LadyLiberty on September 02, 2019, 10:50:50 pm
I just learned today that someone we know and very much admire left the safety of Great Exuma to go be with his family on Grand Bahama Island during the hurricane (because that's what good men do).

He came to the US for college to study jazz, and he is quite the piano player with a megaphone voice that can really work up a crowd in a piano bar (and I am not a fan of piano bars). I wish I had videos of him to share.  I did find some songs from a gospel CD that he recorded.

Prayers up for Heston, I hope to see you in November.   Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tqQ417mURM&list=PLus78iVQCqLfwyzcDK8pU6KQ44RMSpnzR&index=9&t=0s#)

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 03, 2019, 12:17:52 am
Ann Coulter
Verified accountï‚™ @AnnCoulter 

At least Dorian patiently waits outside our border before  crashing ashore, more than can be said for your average illegal.

2:37 PM - 2 Sep 2019

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1168639223789957123


Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: corbe on September 03, 2019, 12:43:08 am
     (https://www.collegemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/OTooles-burger-1024x795.jpg) :yowsa:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: libertybele on September 03, 2019, 12:58:27 am
Ann Coulter
Verified accountï‚™ @AnnCoulter 

At least Dorian patiently waits outside our border before  crashing ashore, more than can be said for your average illegal.

2:37 PM - 2 Sep 2019

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1168639223789957123

 888high58888

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: libertybele on September 03, 2019, 01:03:25 am
I just learned today that someone we know and very much admire left the safety of Great Exuma to go be with his family on Grand Bahama Island during the hurricane (because that's what good men do).

He came to the US for college to study jazz, and he is quite the piano player with a megaphone voice that can really work up a crowd in a piano bar (and I am not a fan of piano bars). I wish I had videos of him to share.  I did find some songs from a gospel CD that he recorded.

Prayers up for Heston, I hope to see you in November.   Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tqQ417mURM&list=PLus78iVQCqLfwyzcDK8pU6KQ44RMSpnzR&index=9&t=0s#)

Thanks for sharing!  I'm not particularly fond of jazz, but do enjoy listening to the piano (I play, but only for my own enjoyment and entertainment) and this was a nice treat.

Prayers up for the safety of Heston and his family and for those in the Bahamas.  I hope once the hurricane leaves that their recovery is swift and their lives may return to some sort of normalcy.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 03, 2019, 11:34:14 am
Hurricane Dorian to move 'dangerously close' to Florida coast after battering Bahamas

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Hurricane Dorian continued to hover over the Bahamas early Tuesday morning, but forecasters say the now-Category 3 storm will move "dangerously close" to Florida's east coast in the coming hours.

The monstrous storm has been blamed for the deaths of at least five people on the Abaco Islands in the northern Bahamas, where it touched down Sunday afternoon as a Category 5, the strongest Atlantic hurricane landfall on record. Dorian then came to a grinding halt over Grand Bahama, the northernmost island of the Bahamas archipelago where it has remained at a virtual standstill since Monday morning.

Bahamas Prime Minister Hubert Minnis has described the devastation from "destructive Dorian" as "unprecedented and extensive." Many homes and businesses have been "completely or partially destroyed," he said.
 

https://abcnews.go.com/International/hurricane-dorian-move-dangerously-close-florida-coast-battering/story?id=65352098&cid=clicksource_4380645_null_hero_hed
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: libertybele on September 03, 2019, 11:59:28 am
Now downgraded to a Cat 3 and still stalled over the Bahamas -- the track shows it more offshore up the Florida coast.

Hurricane Dorian still swirling over the Bahamas
Dorian is expected to begin moving slowly northwest or west-northwest by this evening.

(https://wbbh.images.worldnow.com/images/18729203_G.jpeg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: thackney on September 03, 2019, 02:33:29 pm
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=16&v=ZhOE4UePx2k#)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Sanguine on September 03, 2019, 02:37:11 pm
]
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=16&v=ZhOE4UePx2k#)

Awful for those people caught in it.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 03, 2019, 03:23:50 pm
It's been reported that the airport in Freeport is under water.  A number of aid agencies have supplies and people ready to go, but they can't get to the islands to help.  People are stranded with no way to get to them. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: mystery-ak on September 03, 2019, 03:29:17 pm
Hurricane Dorian downgraded to Category 2 storm, continues its assault on the Bahamas

Hurricane Dorian, the monster of a storm that's pummeled parts of the Bahamas for the past 36 hours, has been downgraded to a Category 2 storm as it finally starts to inch away from Grand Bahama -- but the storm is showing signs it's growing before taking aim at the Southeast.

The National Hurricane Center said, as of 11 a.m. EDT, the storm is continuing to produce wind gusts of up to 110 mph and a storm surge of 10-to-15 feet "with higher destructive waves." The storm’s current movement is northwest at 2 mph with "dangerous winds and life-threatening" storm surge continuing to impact Grand Bahama Island.

Dorian was located about 45 miles north of Freeport on Grand Bahama Island and about 105 miles east of West Palm Beach, Fla.

The hurricane, while losing some wind speed, is growing in size, according to the NHC. Hurricane-force winds now extend outward up to 60 miles from the center, while tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 175 miles.

(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/09/1862/1048/DorianMondayMap4.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)

more
https://www.foxnews.com/world/hurricane-dorian-downgraded-to-category-3-storm-continues-its-assault-on-the-bahamas (https://www.foxnews.com/world/hurricane-dorian-downgraded-to-category-3-storm-continues-its-assault-on-the-bahamas)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: austingirl on September 03, 2019, 03:32:15 pm
It's been reported that the airport in Freeport is under water.  A number of aid agencies have supplies and people ready to go, but they can't get to the islands to help.  People are stranded with no way to get to them.

The devastation is unimaginable.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 03, 2019, 03:34:57 pm
It's been reported that the airport in Freeport is under water.  A number of aid agencies have supplies and people ready to go, but they can't get to the islands to help.  People are stranded with no way to get to them.

I looked it up on Wiki yesterday...Freeport is between 25K-30K people.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 03, 2019, 03:51:29 pm
I looked it up on Wiki yesterday...Freeport is between 25K-30K people.

Freeport is the second largest city.  Nassau, the capital, is the largest with about 227,000 residents, according to worldatlas.com  The total population of the Bahamas is about 395,361 as of 2017.  Sadly, that number will decrease as a result of this storm.   8888crybaby

 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 03, 2019, 03:58:35 pm
Freeport is the second largest city.  Nassau, the capital, is the largest with about 227,000 residents, according to worldatlas.com  The total population of the Bahamas is about 395,361 as of 2017.  Sadly, that number will decrease as a result of this storm.   8888crybaby

I'm afraid to learn that, @Applewood.  This is unprecedented for Bahama.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: mystery-ak on September 03, 2019, 04:02:46 pm
ABC reporter: 'It's pure hell' in Dorian-devastated Bahamas
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/459721-abc-reporter-its-pure-hell-in-dorian-devastated-bahamas
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 03, 2019, 06:21:30 pm
Hurricane watch canceled for Palm Beach County, as Dorian weakens to Category 2 force and picks up speed

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The hurricane watch for Palm Beach County was canceled late Tuesday morning, as Hurricane Dorian weakened to Category 2 force and started on what appeared to be its long-awaited turn to the north.

Also cancelled was a tropical storm watch for Broward County. But a tropical storm warning for Palm Beach County remains in effect, and forecasters said to expect strong winds and heavy rain through much of the afternoon as the hurricane moves up the coast.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/weather/hurricane/fl-ne-hurricane-dorian-florida-coast-forecast-track-20190902-wlw3zml24rck5ogtbjgmdk6ysu-story.html (https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/weather/hurricane/fl-ne-hurricane-dorian-florida-coast-forecast-track-20190902-wlw3zml24rck5ogtbjgmdk6ysu-story.html)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Wingnut on September 03, 2019, 06:27:12 pm
ABC reporter: 'It's pure hell' in Dorian-devastated Bahamas
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/459721-abc-reporter-its-pure-hell-in-dorian-devastated-bahamas

If I was a betting man I would bet when the US steps in with aid to help the Island country it will not be squandered like some other unnamed Caribbean island.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: dfwgator on September 03, 2019, 06:33:54 pm
If I was a betting man I would bet when the US steps in with aid to help the Island country it will not be squandered like some other unnamed Caribbean island.

Why aren't the Brits helping?  Queen Elizabeth is still their official Head of State.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Wingnut on September 03, 2019, 06:35:52 pm
Why aren't the Brits helping?  Queen Elizabeth is still their official Head of State.

They are all f'd up Brexitting or some such nonsense.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 03, 2019, 06:37:49 pm
I'm afraid to learn that, @Applewood.  This is unprecedented for Bahama.

Maybe this article will be of interest:

Bahamas hit by a major hurricane every 12 yrs

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The Bahamas on average gets brushed or hit by a hurricane once every three years, and gets hit by a major hurricane once every 12 years. There are three Bahamian islands ranked in the top 10 effects from tropical systems of all cities, islands and countries in the North Atlantic Basin - Andros, Abaco and Grand Bahama.

Andros is affected once every 2.40 years and since 1871 it was brushed or hit by a tropical storm or hurricane 57 times. The average years between direct hurricane hits are once every 8.06 years. Third is Abaco, which is affected once every 2.45 years and since 1871 was "brushed" or hit by a tropical storm or hurricane 56 times. The average years between direct hurricane hits are once every 8.57 years. Fourth is Grand Bahama, which is affected every 2.49 years and since 1871, it was brushed or hit by a tropical storm or hurricane 55 times. The average years between direct hurricane hits are once every 6.52 years.

https://www.bahamaslocal.com/newsitem/2332/Bahamas_hit_by_a_major_hurricane_every_12_yrs.html (https://www.bahamaslocal.com/newsitem/2332/Bahamas_hit_by_a_major_hurricane_every_12_yrs.html)

***

The article is from 2010.   The data may have been revised since then. I would expect that Dorian ranks as the Bahamas' worst hurricane, or very close to it.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 03, 2019, 06:52:34 pm
Why aren't the Brits helping?  Queen Elizabeth is still their official Head of State.

I did not know that.  They are an independent commonwealth, with the Queen of England as its official Head of State.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Wingnut on September 03, 2019, 06:54:29 pm
I did not know that.  They are an independent commonwealth, with the Queen of England as its official Head of State.

Those Imperialistic Bastards!   tri22 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 03, 2019, 06:58:15 pm
Those Imperialistic Bastards!   tri22

We must have a chat with them about that.  Maybe a Summit at the US Virgin Islands?
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Bigun on September 03, 2019, 07:03:14 pm
I did not know that.  They are an independent commonwealth, with the Queen of England as its official Head of State.

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There shall be a Governor-General of The Bahamas who shall be
appointed by Her Majesty and shall hold office during Her Majesty's pleasure and
who shall be Her Majesty's representative in The Bahamas.

Source = The Constitution of The Commonwealth of The Bahamas (http://bahamas.gov.bs/wps/wcm/connect/1c3c8453-e004-4f15-b978-d2ca5ff2f427/Chap+4+Governor-General.pdf?MOD=AJPERES)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Wingnut on September 03, 2019, 07:03:37 pm
We must have a chat with them about that.  Maybe a Summit at the US Virgin Islands?

 888high58888
Screw Greenland.  We want the Bahama's! 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 03, 2019, 07:05:16 pm
888high58888
Screw Greenland.  We want the Bahama's!

May have been the plan al along!  I'll bet the property value is significantly eroded by now, along with the beaches.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: dfwgator on September 03, 2019, 07:19:03 pm
Maybe this article will be of interest:

Bahamas hit by a major hurricane every 12 yrs

https://www.bahamaslocal.com/newsitem/2332/Bahamas_hit_by_a_major_hurricane_every_12_yrs.html (https://www.bahamaslocal.com/newsitem/2332/Bahamas_hit_by_a_major_hurricane_every_12_yrs.html)

***

The article is from 2010.   The data may have been revised since then. I would expect that Dorian ranks as the Bahamas' worst hurricane, or very close to it.

Bahamas is to hurricanes what Oklahoma is to tornadoes.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: thackney on September 03, 2019, 07:22:13 pm
New Aerial Footage of the Bahamas After Hurricane Dorian Is Absolutely Gut-Wrenching
https://earther.gizmodo.com/new-aerial-footage-of-the-bahamas-after-hurricane-doria-1837843886
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: dfwgator on September 03, 2019, 07:22:51 pm
The hurricane watch for Palm Beach County was canceled late Tuesday morning, as Hurricane Dorian weakened to Category 2 force and started on what appeared to be its long-awaited turn to the north.


A certain former Canadian PM is deeply saddened.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 03, 2019, 07:27:02 pm
Why aren't the Brits helping?  Queen Elizabeth is still their official Head of State.

I'm sure the Brits will at some point.  But they will have the same problem the US and various aid agencies have.  Can't get to the islands to help.  Airports under water.  Massive destruction everywhere. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: thackney on September 03, 2019, 07:30:34 pm
Why aren't the Brits helping?  Queen Elizabeth is still their official Head of State.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-deploys-a-team-of-three-humanitarian-experts-to-bahamas-following-devastating-hurricane-dorian (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-deploys-a-team-of-three-humanitarian-experts-to-bahamas-following-devastating-hurricane-dorian)

The British Royal Navy auxiliary ship Royal Fleet Auxiliary (RFA) Mounts Bay has been pre-positioned to the region to offer her support if required. The ship is capable of carrying specialist water rescue vehicles and includes a helicopter that can be used to deliver humanitarian aid. RFA Mounts Bay has relief supplies on-board including water carriers, hygiene kits and shelter kits.

This is in addition to UK support provided for the deployment of specialist teams in the region from CDEMA – including engineers, health professionals and logistics experts – who will support the local authorities’ response and assess whether further international assistance is required.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 03, 2019, 07:34:36 pm
A certain former Canadian PM is deeply saddened.

I was reading she only lasted in the job for five months.  Now I know why.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: libertybele on September 03, 2019, 08:22:01 pm
If you haven't seen this; aerial view of the massive, massive destruction.  The recovery will take years and years.  Unbelievable.  It makes you wonder how anyone survived with the power and duration of this hurricane.

www.cnn.com/us/live-news/hurricane-dorian-us-florida/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/hurricane-dorian-us-florida/index.html)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: mystery-ak on September 03, 2019, 08:27:55 pm
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFtSu6tp8co#)

Aerial footage emerges of Hurricane Dorian damage to Bahamas
by Mike Brest
 | September 03, 2019 04:00 PM



Hurricane Dorian has destroyed parts of the Bahamas in recent days as the winds from the natural disaster neared 150 mph.

The hurricane, which has killed five people so far, hit the Abaco Islands first as a Category 5, leaving significant damage. CNN aired footage of the damage from the Abaco Islands on Tuesday afternoon. The video appears to show grave damage throughout the area, with many buildings no longer standing, combined with raised water levels.

more
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/aerial-footage-emerges-of-hurricane-dorian-damage-to-bahamas (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/aerial-footage-emerges-of-hurricane-dorian-damage-to-bahamas)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 03, 2019, 08:45:59 pm
First Aerial Images of Marsh Harbour Bahamas in Ruin 

(I gasped out loud when I first looked at this …. Lord have mercy)


(https://s.w-x.co/93bahamasaerial1.jpg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 03, 2019, 08:49:11 pm
First Aerial Images of Marsh Harbour Bahamas in Ruin 

(I gasped out loud when I first looked at this …. Lord have mercy)

We haven't seen such from Grand Bahama, that really worries me too.  Trying to imagine what Freeport must look like, it was just outside the eye for that whole 36 hours.  36 hours of Cat 5, I just can't get my mind around that.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: skeeter on September 03, 2019, 08:56:23 pm
First Aerial Images of Marsh Harbour Bahamas in Ruin 

(I gasped out loud when I first looked at this …. Lord have mercy)


(https://s.w-x.co/93bahamasaerial1.jpg)

Looks like Port-au-Prince now.

Prayers for the survivors - there's got to be some fatalities in that mess.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 03, 2019, 08:59:24 pm
Looks like Port-au-Prince now.

Prayers for the survivors - there's got to be some fatalities in that mess.

Thousands.  8888crybaby
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: dfwgator on September 03, 2019, 09:13:22 pm
Thousands.  8888crybaby

And sadly, many probably were swept out to sea, never to be found.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: libertybele on September 03, 2019, 10:04:32 pm
Thousands.  8888crybaby

I think so too.  Reports of at least 2 shelters that flooded. I could be mistaken but I thought that there was a news report that people living in Abaco Island were evacuating to shelters in the Grand Bahama -- which got absolutely pummeled.

The only thing that may have helped is if the Brits would have sent in several ocean liners and tankers and evacuated these people days ahead of time; displaced but alive.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: LadyLiberty on September 03, 2019, 10:12:30 pm
There is a low lying area on Great Abaco known as the Mud.  It's a shanty town with lots of Haitian illegals.  It is totally wiped out. 

USCG is in the Abacos doing rescue and evacuation of the injured to Nassau.  We also have an emergency response team there to get the ports operational and other humanitarian groups getting ready to respond.

Title: Waves Lap at Bahamas Window '20 Feet off the Ground
Post by: mrclose on September 03, 2019, 10:18:28 pm
Saw this on the MSM earlier … Amazing! :beer:

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_useY8-R83c#)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 03, 2019, 10:22:18 pm
A very comprehensive report from the UK Mail, with photos, videos and storm track:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7423189/Devastating-photos-destruction-left-Hurricane-Dorian-battered-Bahamas.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7423189/Devastating-photos-destruction-left-Hurricane-Dorian-battered-Bahamas.html)

And kudos to our Coast Guard for beginning rescue operations. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 03, 2019, 10:26:42 pm
There is a low lying area on Great Abaco known as the Mud.  It's a shanty town with lots of Haitian illegals.  It is totally wiped out. 

USCG is in the Abacos doing rescue and evacuation of the injured to Nassau.  We also have an emergency response team there to get the ports operational and other humanitarian groups getting ready to respond.

Much of the Bahamas is low lying.  Highest point is on Cat Island -- 207 feet. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: mystery-ak on September 04, 2019, 12:30:05 am
Disney will donate over $1M to relief efforts in Bahamas after Dorian
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/459831-disney-will-donate-over-1-million-to-relief-efforts-in-bahamas
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 04, 2019, 12:47:55 am
Much of the Bahamas is low lying.  Highest point is on Cat Island -- 207 feet.

Wiki lists the elevation of Freeport, Bahamas as 30 ft.  They sat just outside of the eye wall for 36 hours of Cat 4 wind and rain.  I don't even want to know if there was a big surge.  Population is 45K (2012), BTW.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Sighlass on September 04, 2019, 12:51:28 am
Disney will donate over $1M to relief efforts in Bahamas after Dorian
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/459831-disney-will-donate-over-1-million-to-relief-efforts-in-bahamas

Donate it to that island they own for their cruise ships to port I bet. One of the safest places in the whole region. Lot of crime over there once you leave the tourist areas.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Elderberry on September 04, 2019, 12:51:49 am
I saw that the airport is still under around 5 ft of water.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: catfish1957 on September 04, 2019, 03:15:00 am
Looks like Port-au-Prince now.

Prayers for the survivors - there's got to be some fatalities in that mess.

First glances remind me when I was a kid, and saw news accounts of Camille in 1969. Gulfport/Biloxi areas.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: LadyLiberty on September 04, 2019, 03:40:29 am
Much of the Bahamas is low lying.  Highest point is on Cat Island -- 207 feet.

The pic I saw of The Mud looked like thenwholemof it, which is right on the coast, was 1-2' above sea level. 

There was also a cay off of Grand Bahama that has a fishing village and it's only 5' above sea level.  There was a ferry sent there to evacuate the residents, but 5 men stayed behind to ride it out. I don't think they had a chance.  :(

On the other hand a lost little poodle made it through the storm and showed up at the command and control center today, and someone went door to door on Guana Cay (Abacos) and everyone was accounted for.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Gefn on September 04, 2019, 10:52:42 am
Has anyone seen the story about the woman who saved 97 homeless dogs during the hurricane?

One small good deed...
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Gefn on September 04, 2019, 11:20:27 am


Hurricane hero: Woman rescues nearly 100 dogs, taking them into her home during Dorian


A woman in the Bahamas says she has taken in nearly 100 dogs displaced by Hurricane Dorian. Chella Phillips, who runs Voiceless Dogs of Nassau, a small organization aimed at helping stray dogs in the capital city, said she took 97 dogs into her house as the hurricane slammed into the island on Sunday.

Seventy-nine of the dogs were sheltering in her master bedroom, Phillips wrote on Facebook. "It has been insane since last night," she wrote, "poop and piss non stop but at least they are respecting my bed and nobody has dared to jump in."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hurricane-dorian-woman-rescues-nearly-100-dogs-nassau-bahamas-taking-them-into-her-home-during-hurricane-dorian/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hurricane-dorian-woman-rescues-nearly-100-dogs-nassau-bahamas-taking-them-into-her-home-during-hurricane-dorian/)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: thackney on September 04, 2019, 11:46:43 am
Hurricane Dorian: Grand Bahama Island was flooded with 20 feet of water
https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2019/9/3/20847484/hurricane-dorian-grand-bahama-island-abacos-how-to-impacts-help-relief (https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2019/9/3/20847484/hurricane-dorian-grand-bahama-island-abacos-how-to-impacts-help-relief)

Hurricane Dorian hit Grand Bahama Island as an incredibly powerful Category 5 hurricane on Sunday night with howling 185 mile-per-hour winds. And then, it basically camped on the island. Dorian was moving to the west at just 1 mile per hour, subjecting Grand Bahama to nearly two full days of intense hurricane conditions. Wind gusts blew in excess of 200 mph — which is strong enough to blow a roof off a house. The storm generated 18-to-23 feet of coastal flooding. More than two feet of rain fell.

Look at this video of the storm’s eye over the island for a day (in all, the storm’s eyewall remained over the island for 41 hours — 15 of those hours were at Category 5 intensity). It’s as though an enormous tornado inched its way through at a pace much slower than walking. It’s just now, Tuesday afternoon, that the storm’s reach is beginning to clear the island.

https://twitter.com/RARohde/status/1168495131051352064/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1168495131051352064&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vox.com%2Fenergy-and-environment%2F2019%2F9%2F3%2F20847484%2Fhurricane-dorian-grand-bahama-island-abacos-how-to-impacts-help-relief (https://twitter.com/RARohde/status/1168495131051352064/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1168495131051352064&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vox.com%2Fenergy-and-environment%2F2019%2F9%2F3%2F20847484%2Fhurricane-dorian-grand-bahama-island-abacos-how-to-impacts-help-relief)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDdUIE6WwAA5qRI.jpg)

Green is 0-15 ft
Yellow is 15-30 ft
Red is +30 ft
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 04, 2019, 01:59:07 pm

Hurricane hero: Woman rescues nearly 100 dogs, taking them into her home during Dorian


A woman in the Bahamas says she has taken in nearly 100 dogs displaced by Hurricane Dorian. Chella Phillips, who runs Voiceless Dogs of Nassau, a small organization aimed at helping stray dogs in the capital city, said she took 97 dogs into her house as the hurricane slammed into the island on Sunday.

Seventy-nine of the dogs were sheltering in her master bedroom, Phillips wrote on Facebook. "It has been insane since last night," she wrote, "poop and piss non stop but at least they are respecting my bed and nobody has dared to jump in."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hurricane-dorian-woman-rescues-nearly-100-dogs-nassau-bahamas-taking-them-into-her-home-during-hurricane-dorian/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hurricane-dorian-woman-rescues-nearly-100-dogs-nassau-bahamas-taking-them-into-her-home-during-hurricane-dorian/)

@Gefn

A heart of pure gold lives in Nassau!   :doglick:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: thackney on September 04, 2019, 02:21:09 pm
(https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/grand%20bahama.jpg)

Satellite photo showing Grand Bahama Island before and after Hurricane Dorian made landfall. In the after photo (bottom), note the yellow lines that mark where the land was before the storm flooded the area.
(Source: Iceye via CNN)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-03/dorian-devastated-island-50k-residents-now-70-under-water (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-03/dorian-devastated-island-50k-residents-now-70-under-water)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Wingnut on September 04, 2019, 02:23:43 pm
Florida having been save from the ravages of Dorian (much to the dismay of the hurricane hypers) the weather hucksters have shifted their focus of doom and gloom to the Carolina's.

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: XenaLee on September 04, 2019, 02:27:15 pm
I've been watching the cams in Florida and just 24 hours ago this beach was pristine and "normal".  The storm surge is almost covering the entire beach now. According to satellite images, Dorian is right around the area of Daytona right now.   Just think... how much worse it would be if Dorian wasn't still that far from land.  Yikes.

https://www.earthcam.com/usa/florida/daytona/?cam=daytona (https://www.earthcam.com/usa/florida/daytona/?cam=daytona)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: austingirl on September 04, 2019, 04:35:00 pm

Hurricane hero: Woman rescues nearly 100 dogs, taking them into her home during Dorian


A woman in the Bahamas says she has taken in nearly 100 dogs displaced by Hurricane Dorian. Chella Phillips, who runs Voiceless Dogs of Nassau, a small organization aimed at helping stray dogs in the capital city, said she took 97 dogs into her house as the hurricane slammed into the island on Sunday.

Seventy-nine of the dogs were sheltering in her master bedroom, Phillips wrote on Facebook. "It has been insane since last night," she wrote, "poop and piss non stop but at least they are respecting my bed and nobody has dared to jump in."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hurricane-dorian-woman-rescues-nearly-100-dogs-nassau-bahamas-taking-them-into-her-home-during-hurricane-dorian/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hurricane-dorian-woman-rescues-nearly-100-dogs-nassau-bahamas-taking-them-into-her-home-during-hurricane-dorian/)

She did a wonderful thing, but she's got a heck of a cleanup.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: DCPatriot on September 04, 2019, 05:06:06 pm
She did a wonderful thing, but she's got a heck of a cleanup.

I'm doubting this story...a little bit.

One hundred frightened and lost dogs that don't know one another....

....in ONE BEDROOM.....

...with just her on the bed...?????


GTFO!!!    :laugh:     She would have been eaten alive.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 04, 2019, 05:12:06 pm
Has anyone seen the story about the woman who saved 97 homeless dogs during the hurricane?

One small good deed...

Read that there is a fundraiser page for her -- a GoFudMe or something -- So far it's raised over $193,000.

I believe she has taken in strays before.  It's something she has been doing on her own -- not as part of a rescue organization.

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: thackney on September 04, 2019, 05:22:08 pm
Read that there is a fundraiser page for her -- a GoFudMe or something -- So far it's raised over $193,000.

I believe she has taken in strays before.  It's something she has been doing on her own -- not as part of a rescue organization.

She has run the rescue organization, Voiceless Dogs of Nassau, for years.

http://fayknowles.blogspot.com/2017/11/the-voiceless-dogs-of-nassau-bahamas.html (http://fayknowles.blogspot.com/2017/11/the-voiceless-dogs-of-nassau-bahamas.html)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 04, 2019, 05:49:32 pm
I'm doubting this story...a little bit.

One hundred frightened and lost dogs that don't know one another....

....in ONE BEDROOM.....

...with just her on the bed...?????


GTFO!!!    :laugh:     She would have been eaten alive.

You're confusing dogs with cats.  A cat will gladly feast on your remains...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 04, 2019, 05:58:07 pm
Thanks for the correction @thackney
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: thackney on September 04, 2019, 07:03:17 pm
Thanks for the correction @thackney

All good, that woman has a heart bigger than mine.  She is up to $201,819 raised.

https://www.facebook.com/The-Voiceless-Dogs-of-Nassau-Bahamas-608561932499762/ (https://www.facebook.com/The-Voiceless-Dogs-of-Nassau-Bahamas-608561932499762/)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: XenaLee on September 04, 2019, 07:28:13 pm
All good, that woman has a heart bigger than mine.  She is up to $201,819 raised.

https://www.facebook.com/The-Voiceless-Dogs-of-Nassau-Bahamas-608561932499762/ (https://www.facebook.com/The-Voiceless-Dogs-of-Nassau-Bahamas-608561932499762/)

I hope she raises enough to buy a new bed and/or bedroom....lololol.

Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: LadyLiberty on September 04, 2019, 08:10:05 pm
Those dogs are Bahamian Potcakes.  Great dogs, they are calm and very intelligent.  https://www.dogster.com/dogbreed/potcake (https://www.dogster.com/dogbreed/potcake)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 04, 2019, 08:50:11 pm
I just hope all the owners are still around to pick the doggies up.   :crying:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: austingirl on September 04, 2019, 09:52:14 pm
I just hope all the owners are still around to pick the doggies up.   :crying:
I think they are strays.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 05, 2019, 12:29:58 am
You're confusing dogs with cats.  A cat will gladly feast on your remains...  :laugh:
Not to burst your bubble, but a friend died and was found a few days later, in summer heat, with his dogs in a trailer in the countryside.
The dogs did not go hungry, but no one would adopt them after that.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 5 strength on the way to Florida...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 05, 2019, 12:44:00 am
Not to burst your bubble, but a friend died and was found a few days later, in summer heat, with his dogs in a trailer in the countryside.
The dogs did not go hungry, but no one would adopt them after that.

 *bouche*
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 05, 2019, 01:08:11 am
The only airport on Freeport is wiped out

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/a86dcd09ff80c99677c47b02fcc04277e40bebdc/0_0_4000_2667/master/4000.jpg?width=880&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=d066cbf2b59e8812539a7e3c2d66a576)




Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 05, 2019, 01:09:22 am
Death toll in Bahamas from Hurricane Dorian rises to 20
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/04/us/hurricane-dorian-bahamas-death-toll-wxc/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/04/us/hurricane-dorian-bahamas-death-toll-wxc/index.html)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 05, 2019, 01:13:35 am
A handout aerial photograph released by the UK Ministry of Defence (MOD) on Wednesday shows debris and destruction in the aftermath of Hurricane Dorian on the island Great Abaco in the northern Bahamas Photograph: Lphoto Paul Halliwell

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/102fa06520236083d36dabc25412546730b09c70/0_0_1900_1268/master/1900.jpg?width=1225&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=36256b99ed0dd814fd24fc584a27e62a)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 05, 2019, 01:20:16 am
Jacksonville, FL

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTD2MkjvoEhl5LV9ZHUt-65gi9-uYN-rkvOZ38ZTu_nezazRh0jZg)


Photograph: US coast guard district 7 PADET Jacksonville

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/fe276f2f1d5d243d428ca097a550e3350ee7a58a/0_0_2016_1512/master/2016.jpg?width=880&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=0fa5f4b80df4df5dee6e8c8e6002a7c9)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 05, 2019, 01:43:02 am
The only airport on Freeport is wiped out

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/a86dcd09ff80c99677c47b02fcc04277e40bebdc/0_0_4000_2667/master/4000.jpg?width=880&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=d066cbf2b59e8812539a7e3c2d66a576)

That plane (Cessna?) looks like it took a lot of cartwheels to end up like that.  I've been most concerned about Freeport, because it was just outside of the eye wall for that 36 hours, with Cat 4 winds and rain the whole time.  There are about 50K people living there.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: austingirl on September 05, 2019, 02:28:46 am
The death toll has to be much higher than reported and will probably never be fully known.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Sanguine on September 05, 2019, 02:32:41 am
The death toll has to be much higher than reported and will probably never be fully known.

I would think so.  The Bahamas were just pulverized, looking at the photos.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 05, 2019, 02:34:59 am
The death toll has to be much higher than reported and will probably never be fully known.

Yup, must be.  I understand there were a lot of illegal Haitian aliens on an extremely vulnerable part of the Islands called "The Muds."  I'd be surprised if there are any survivors.  Given the low-lying nature of the islands I expect a lot of bodies won't be found until they wash up on some shore after having been swept out to sea.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 05, 2019, 02:36:11 am
I would think so.  The Bahamas were just pulverized, looking at the photos.

And I thought Homestead looked bad after Andrew.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: DCPatriot on September 05, 2019, 02:36:17 am
I would think so.  The Bahamas were just pulverized, looking at the photos.

Not putting this lightly, but only two of Grand Bahama's islands were seemingly destroyed. 

And they sure as hell had plenty of warning to get to higher ground somewhere.   :shrug:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 05, 2019, 02:49:19 am
Not putting this lightly, but only two of Grand Bahama's islands were seemingly destroyed. 

And they sure as hell had plenty of warning to get to higher ground somewhere.   :shrug:

Not much "higher ground," though there is some.  Freeport is considered high ground, and it's 30 ft at its highest.  I'm hoping a lot of people just got off the islands.  Probably not.  The grisly part of this hasn't even begun... 8888crybaby
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 05, 2019, 10:56:11 am
Hurricane Dorian has strengthened to a Category 3 as it threatens landfall in the Carolinas

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As Hurricane Dorian continues moving up the southeastern US coast, South Carolina was feeling its effects Thursday morning.
 
The storm had lost some of its strength after hitting the Bahamas. But it intensified again into a Category 3 storm Wednesday night, with maximum sustained winds of 115 mph, according to the National Hurricane Center.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/05/us/hurricane-dorian-thursday-wxc/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/05/us/hurricane-dorian-thursday-wxc/index.html)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: thackney on September 05, 2019, 12:01:08 pm
(https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT05/refresh/AL0519WPCERO+gif/091758WPCERO_sm.gif)

(https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0636_radar_big.gif)

(https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT05/refresh/AL0519WPCQPF+gif/091758WPCQPF_sm.gif)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Gefn on September 05, 2019, 01:15:15 pm

Tornado sightings have been reported and 200,000 are without power.

In the Carolinas

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/hurricane-dorian-bahamas-southeastern-us/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/hurricane-dorian-bahamas-southeastern-us/index.html)


Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 05, 2019, 03:02:01 pm
Not putting this lightly, but only two of Grand Bahama's islands were seemingly destroyed. 

And they sure as hell had plenty of warning to get to higher ground somewhere.   :shrug:

I think the impact is difficult for many of us to imagine.  Dorian was huge.  It basically affected every island in the Bahamas.  We hear about damage in Nassau and Freeport because these are the cities most of us know.  But the other islands -- some of which perhaps are not as populated or maybe even unpopulated -- were also hit hard. 

As for evacuating to higher ground, others here have pointed out there really isn't much in the Bahamas.    Cat Island has the highest point -- 207 feet -- but the more heavily populated islands are much lower.  I'm getting conflicting reports of how high the floods were, but one said as much as 23 feet!    For islands which average 30 or so feet at their highest point, there really isn't much in the way of "higher" ground. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 05, 2019, 07:18:09 pm
Wild Horses of North Carolina's Outer Banks Will Ride Out Hurricane Dorian 'Butts to the Wind'

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The now Category 3 storm is making its way up the coast after devastating the Bahamas, and while parts of South Carolina and North Carolina are under evacuation, CNN reports, the colonial Spanish mustangs of the Outer Banks aren’t going anywhere.

According to the Corolla Wild Horse Fund, which oversees the herd, the horses are able to sense the storm from a change in air pressure and know exactly what to do when it approaches: move to higher ground and group together under sturdy trees.

“They’ll likely ride out winds and rain as their ancestors did before them — in huddles, butts to the wind,” the organization told CNN, who added the horses have already begun grouping together.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/wild-horses-north-carolinas-outer-175048942.html (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/wild-horses-north-carolinas-outer-175048942.html)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Sanguine on September 05, 2019, 07:20:29 pm
"Butts to the wind”  There's probably a lot of wisdom in that stance.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: DCPatriot on September 05, 2019, 07:23:31 pm
I think the impact is difficult for many of us to imagine.  Dorian was huge.  It basically affected every island in the Bahamas.  We hear about damage in Nassau and Freeport because these are the cities most of us know.  But the other islands -- some of which perhaps are not as populated or maybe even unpopulated -- were also hit hard. 

As for evacuating to higher ground, others here have pointed out there really isn't much in the Bahamas.    Cat Island has the highest point -- 207 feet -- but the more heavily populated islands are much lower.  I'm getting conflicting reports of how high the floods were, but one said as much as 23 feet!    For islands which average 30 or so feet at their highest point, there really isn't much in the way of "higher" ground.

Thanks for that information, @Applewood    :beer:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: mountaineer on September 05, 2019, 07:45:57 pm
Those dogs are Bahamian Potcakes.  Great dogs, they are calm and very intelligent.  https://www.dogster.com/dogbreed/potcake (https://www.dogster.com/dogbreed/potcake)
Never heard of them, but would love to have one!
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Sanguine on September 05, 2019, 07:51:09 pm
Never heard of them, but would love to have one!

I was curious so I found a photo.  Nice looking dog, and very attentive:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/WyattPuppySept2010.jpg/800px-WyattPuppySept2010.jpg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: LadyLiberty on September 05, 2019, 08:00:58 pm
I have seen tweets from people in Freeport who claim that Freeport itself is not completely destroyed.  Also someone posted a video showing the departures terminal at the airport is intact -- damaged but intact -- and they are starting to clean it up.  I would be more worried about cleaning debris off of the runway so that supplies could be brought in, but perhaps they are doing that, too. That departure terminal will be a good place to stage relief supplies when the runway is operational. 

The dialysis center there has reopened and this picture of people lining up in Freeport as stores start to reopen was tweeted by CNN:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDt-HRkXoAEk7q0?format=jpg&name=900x900)

And then there are the fruitcake tweets.  The Chinese have invested over $3B on Grand Bahama Island to build a shipping hub that services the Caribbean area.  They've got their tentacles all over the region, building roads, hotels, and other investments.  Their Grand Bahama shipping hub has been destroyed.  The fruitcakes are saying that the hurricane was something ordered by Trump and controlled to stall over Grand Bahama as an action of asymmetrical warfare.  One tweeter even said they won't believe the hurricane even happened until they see a dead body.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: mountaineer on September 05, 2019, 08:06:46 pm
Hoping to hear back from friends living near Wilmington, NC. Looks like they'll be getting a lot of rain, and 55-75 mph wind, with gusts to 90 mph.  :0001:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 05, 2019, 08:07:57 pm
@LadyLiberty

Last I heard, the runways were under water and our military had cleaned off one runway in an effort to get supplies.  This is why many aid agencies were having trouble getting supplies in.  They had to wait for the airport runways to be cleaned off. 

And as for the cranks spouting conspiracy theories -- well, it seems like every tragedy brings them out.  Look at some of the theories I read on this site after the shootings in Texas a few days ago. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: LadyLiberty on September 05, 2019, 08:09:42 pm
Never heard of them, but would love to have one!

There is a rescue organization on Grand Bahama Island that gathers up the strays, spays and neuters, and then ferries them to the US where another group coordinates their adoption, so it is possible to get one. They have lots of street smarts and are sweet, calm dogs, but very interactive with their humans. I saw pics from the shelter on twitter earlier today.  I don't know how many dogs they had before Dorian, but they had between 70 - 79 of the dogs survive (don't remember the exact number).  They had a similar number of cats that survived as well.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: LadyLiberty on September 05, 2019, 08:11:35 pm
@LadyLiberty

Last I heard, the runways were under water and our military had cleaned off one runway in an effort to get supplies.  This is why many aid agencies were having trouble getting supplies in.  They had to wait for the airport runways to be cleaned off. 

And as for the cranks spouting conspiracy theories -- well, it seems like every tragedy brings them out.  Look at some of the theories I read on this site after the shootings in Texas a few days ago.

The flooded runways that we have been seeing on Grand Bahama are no longer under water, there are videos on twitter.  Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=43&v=YfNfOujRO0o#)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 05, 2019, 08:13:16 pm
Hoping to hear back from friends living near Wilmington, NC. Looks like they'll be getting a lot of rain, and 55-75 mph wind, with gusts to 90 mph.  :0001:

Prayers up for your friends.  My brother and sister-in-law were supposed to travel to Myrtle Beach sometime this week.  On the way, they usually stop somewhere in NC to visit my brother's godson and his family,  Been trying to reach my brother with no luck.  I hope he and his wife are still at home and that his godson and family are safe.

Prayers up for everyone in Dorian's path.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 05, 2019, 08:14:57 pm
The flooded runways that we have been seeing on Grand Bahama are no longer under water, there are videos on twitter.

That's good to hear.  Now aid can get through to those who desperately need it.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 06, 2019, 06:12:08 am
The flooded runways that we have been seeing on Grand Bahama are no longer under water, there are videos on twitter.  Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=43&v=YfNfOujRO0o#)
That makes you wonder why anything that could be flown out wasn't.
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: libertybele on September 06, 2019, 12:25:00 pm
That makes you wonder why anything that could be flown out wasn't.

Money, and where are you going to fly to?  With the intensity of the hurricane heading the way of the Bahamas and it's projected forecast known far in advance, I have wondered why large ocean liners, cruise ships, etc., weren't sent in to evacuate Abacos?? Keep in mind though that the Bahamas are not U.S. territory, nor a British territory and are their own country.

Also, no one predicted that it would become a CAT 5.  Though past hurricanes have usually stalled over the area, no one could have predicted the exact duration of the hurricane before it moved on.  Hurricanes are unpredictable.

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/A03E/production/_108622014_056254218-1.jpg)

(https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/21ad8a0f-451f-4237-9a09-3c0a79454cda.jpg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Applewood on September 06, 2019, 04:12:03 pm
Hurricane Dorian makes landfall over Cape Hatteras, North Carolina

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Hurricane Dorian packing powerful winds and dangerous storm surges, made its first landfall in the United States over North Carolina's Outer Banks on Friday morning.

The Category 1 storm reached Cape Hatteras at 9 a.m. as it skimmed along North Carolina's coast at about 14 mph with maximum sustained winds of 90 mph, according to the National Hurricane Center. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/hurricane-dorian-now-category-1-buffets-north-carolina-s-coast-n1050586 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/hurricane-dorian-now-category-1-buffets-north-carolina-s-coast-n1050586)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: kidd on September 06, 2019, 09:27:54 pm
Getting rain and wind from one of the outer bands here north of Hartford
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: mystery-ak on September 06, 2019, 09:47:06 pm
Getting rain and wind from one of the outer bands here north of Hartford

How bad is it suppose to get there?......stay safe!
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: DCPatriot on September 06, 2019, 10:08:30 pm
(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/A03E/production/_108622014_056254218-1.jpg)

Looks like a laptop keyboard thrown in the picture.    :shrug:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 08, 2019, 03:38:24 am
Money, and where are you going to fly to?  With the intensity of the hurricane heading the way of the Bahamas and it's projected forecast known far in advance, I have wondered why large ocean liners, cruise ships, etc., weren't sent in to evacuate Abacos?? Keep in mind though that the Bahamas are not U.S. territory, nor a British territory and are their own country.

Also, no one predicted that it would become a CAT 5.  Though past hurricanes have usually stalled over the area, no one could have predicted the exact duration of the hurricane before it moved on.  Hurricanes are unpredictable.

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/A03E/production/_108622014_056254218-1.jpg)

(https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/21ad8a0f-451f-4237-9a09-3c0a79454cda.jpg)
Anyone who owns a plane should know just how fragile they are--and they are. These aren't even warplanes, they're general aviation, and while they are engineered to take some stresses, even a hardcore tropical storm isn't on that list. It takes relatively little to do thousands of dollars in damage. As for where to fly to, go west....
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: mystery-ak on September 08, 2019, 04:53:01 pm
Top weather agency memo warned staff not to contradict Trump on his Dorian forecast for Alabama
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/top-weather-agency-memo-warned-staff-not-to-contradict-trump-on-his-dorian-forecast-for-alabama (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/top-weather-agency-memo-warned-staff-not-to-contradict-trump-on-his-dorian-forecast-for-alabama)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: catfish1957 on September 08, 2019, 07:07:23 pm
Top weather agency memo warned staff not to contradict Trump on his Dorian forecast for Alabama
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/top-weather-agency-memo-warned-staff-not-to-contradict-trump-on-his-dorian-forecast-for-alabama (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/top-weather-agency-memo-warned-staff-not-to-contradict-trump-on-his-dorian-forecast-for-alabama)

Geography just a'int DJT's strong suit.  Hope the storm misses Greenland.   :silly:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: Sanguine on September 08, 2019, 07:28:47 pm
Trump sequitur: a non-sequitur response that reorients the topic at hand to Donald Trump

(Stolen from Twitter)
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: catfish1957 on September 08, 2019, 07:32:05 pm
Trump sequitur: a non-sequitur response that reorients the topic at hand to Donald Trump

(Stolen from Twitter)

Like an Abbott and Costello skit..... :silly:
Title: Re: Hurricane Dorian is at Category 2 strength on the way up the East coast...updated
Post by: mystery-ak on September 08, 2019, 07:48:05 pm
Geography just a'int DJT's strong suit.  Hope the storm misses Greenland.   :silly:

If it hits maybe we can get it at a better price... :pop41: