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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
Sep 8, 2018,7:50 pm
Gordon Kelly Contributor
Consumer Tech
Microsoft has always described Windows 10 “as a service†and leaks have already revealed new monthly charges are coming. Of course, for Windows 7 owners this was never something they expected to pay. But times change…
In a new blog post entitled “Helping customers shift to a modern desktopâ€, Microsoft has announced that it will indeed start charging Windows 7 customers a monthly fee from January 14th 2020, if they want to keep their computers safe.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/09/08/microsoft-windows-7-monthly-charge-windows-10-free-upgrade-cost/amp/ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/09/08/microsoft-windows-7-monthly-charge-windows-10-free-upgrade-cost/amp/)
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@corbe
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damn them...that's me....I have until 2020...I'll just buy a new computer or maybe just stop downloading updates>>..
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The techies will figure a way around this but it will be too complicated for most to understand because it will require a Reboot.
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Yall be pining for my XP operating system soon enough...
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I don't think Win10 as a service is true. They may begin charging a service to hook up to all their crap... But the OS will remain as it is...
If Win10 as a service DOES come true, there's a dozen or so machines here that will be running Linux the next day, and I will be makin bank moving folks onto Mint.
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I don't think Win10 as a service is true. They may begin charging a service to hook up to all their crap... But the OS will remain as it is...
If Win10 as a service DOES come true, there's a dozen or so machines here that will be running Linux the next day, and I will be makin bank moving folks onto Mint.
It makes sense for them though - they can't squeeze out much one-time profit on a $250 Win10 laptop.
I wonder how they've fared so far with MS Office as a service? I also wonder about the possibility of bundling Word and Excel into a low-end version of Win10 that wouldn't cannibalize corporate sales. They obviously want students indoctrinated into their ecosystem, but I suppose they have other options to achieve that...
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Says it's targeted towards businesses.
Between this crap and the warning not to install Google Chrome crap, I wonder what degenerates are running Microsoft these days, and if they really do want to drive people to Linux for good.
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I don't think Win10 as a service is true. They may begin charging a service to hook up to all their crap... But the OS will remain as it is...
If Win10 as a service DOES come true, there's a dozen or so machines here that will be running Linux the next day, and I will be makin bank moving folks onto Mint.
Five computers here, four are mint and one is a dual boot with mint and win 10.
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Five computers here, four are mint and one is a dual boot with mint and win 10.
Yeah... I fix em for a living, and I learn by doing... thus I remain a Windows house... That and interactivity problems... If there was a reliable SAMBA, I would at least be an hybrid network, even now. It is mostly all one way or the other. :shrug:
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It makes sense for them though - they can't squeeze out much one-time profit on a $250 Win10 laptop.
I wonder how they've fared so far with MS Office as a service? I also wonder about the possibility of bundling Word and Excel into a low-end version of Win10 that wouldn't cannibalize corporate sales. They obviously want students indoctrinated into their ecosystem, but I suppose they have other options to achieve that...
I don't think it will make sense. I think people will flee. I know I will.
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I don't think it will make sense. I think people will flee. I know I will.
I will too. In fact, since I'm retiring this week I'm inclined to get my next machine without Windows at all. I only kept it to maintain platform compatibility with my work software.
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Paying ransom for an OS that you already buy when you buy the PC? **nononono*
In my eyes MS. is no better than those scammers who extort people with malware.
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MS got very wealthy in the OS business. I started with DOS 1.? or 2.01, I don't clearly remember. Now they are trying to dictate terms on how their OS is used by customers, calling it a "service". They need to pay a heavy price for this.
I just purchased a new XPS15 I9 computer with Windows 10 because I need a portable computer with near workstation horsepower. Something I very grudgingly did due to my past experiences with Windows 10. And they keep on sticking in more knives... Sooner than later it is going to be 1 knife too many.
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I will too. In fact, since I'm retiring this week I'm inclined to get my next machine without Windows at all. I only kept it to maintain platform compatibility with my work software.
I am BIG on Mint... Pretty much any Debian... Ubuntu's new interface is brilliant on the TVs... If it wasn't for streaming media from my main TV box, all of my TV's would be running Ubuntu... Touching once again on the difficulties of an hybrid network...
I am not doing much in development anymore, and I would really easily switch gears out of 'computer tech' The money ain't that great at it anymore anyway, and I am BONE TIRED of retrieving data from busted HDDs, thumbs, and SD cards...
YUP. I could become a Linux house just about overnight.
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@roamer_1 Is Mint plug 'n' Play with USB peripherals?
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@roamer_1 Is Mint plug 'n' Play with USB peripherals?
Pretty much. I had a couple USB toasters that didn't read... both the same brand. Every now and then a cheap-seats thumb... Printers and such, I wouldn't know... Been fully digital for a long time.
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I dual boot Ubuntu on both my computers, although I never boot into it, except when needed, like when I was playing with Kubernetes. My work is nearly 100% playing in the cloud these days.
I hardly ever use a traditional PC at home anyway, 90% of the time it's my phone, or my tablet, or my media streaming devices, etc. etc.
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I don't think it will make sense. I think people will flee. I know I will.
I meant to say that it makes sense for them to try . With 3 active PC's I'd probably convert 2 for sure. The 3rd would be a problem, with migrating away from Office and some video capture and editing packages.
Unfortunately I'd have to guess that even at ~$6-8/mo MS could lose half their customer base and still come out way ahead.
OTOH, make the market 4x+ times more lucrative and Apple might well decide to unbundle the Mac OS, a potential nightmare for MS...
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Yall be pining for my XP operating system soon enough...
I'm still running XP on all but one machine. That's a Win10, but I haven't even fired it up yet.
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Pretty much. I had a couple USB toasters that didn't read... both the same brand. Every now and then a cheap-seats thumb... Printers and such, I wouldn't know... Been fully digital for a long time.
My printer is on my router. Hopefully it can be found by the Linux.
Mrs. Liberty has a W7 laptop machine (Lenovo), and we're not interested in paying ransom to keep it running Windows7, or the pain of trying to upgrade an old box to W10. She just needs it to surf the web and print.
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It looks like you would still be allowed to run older OSes all you want, instead of not getting updates (as with XP), you would be able to get them if you paid for them.
:shrug:
They should have done this with XP, I bet a lot of people would have paid to run XP rather than abandoned it entirely.
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My printer is on my router. Hopefully it can be found by the Linux.
Mrs. Liberty has a W7 laptop machine (Lenovo), and we're not interested in paying ransom to keep it running Windows7, or the pain of trying to upgrade an old box to W10. She just needs it to surf the web and print.
:shrug: As always. DL a mint ISO and boot it live before install. If it works, it works. And it likely will.
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:shrug: As always. DL a mint ISO and boot it live before install. If it works, it works. And it likely will.
That's the plan. I need to go out and buy some RW DVDs. (I assume the bootables don't come on CDROM anymore? Haven't DLed one in ages.) Boot off a thumb maybe?
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That's it. I'm going back to DOS.
(https://images.uncyclomedia.co/uncyclopedia/en/9/9e/Dos1screen.png)
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That's the plan. I need to go out and buy some RW DVDs. (I assume the bootables don't come on CDROM anymore? Haven't DLed one in ages.) Boot off a thumb maybe?
@Cyber Liberty
NOPE. WAIT.
DL ISO
DL RUFUS (portable - does not install) (https://rufus.akeo.ie/)
Stuff in Thumb.
Run RUFUS
NM everything and point it to the Thumb and the ISO... Everything else will rejigger accordingly. [OK]
Watch the pretty chugging zippy bar.
fini.
Restart
F12 (or whatever) Choose to boot the stick.
Nobody uses CDs anymore d00d. It will blow you away how much faster installs are on a thumb.
And if you are USB3, that Mint Live will run nearly as well as it would if installed.
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Stuff in Thumb.
That could be taken more than one way, I guess... Hope we're on the same page
:silly: :beer: :cool:
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That could be taken more than one way, I guess... Hope we're on the same page
:silly: :beer: :cool:
LOL! Bkmrk'ing your RUFUS link. No USB3, but that's OK. I have plenty of thumbs laying around. 32 GB good?
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LOL! Bkmrk'ing your RUFUS link. No USB3, but that's OK. I have plenty of thumbs laying around. 32 GB good?
WAY plenty. It will rub it, so ...
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Well, you could get a Mac.
OS and security updates are free.
Of course, the "buy-in" cost is higher.
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Well, you could get a Mac.
OS and security updates are free.
Of course, the "buy-in" cost is higher.
Mac rhymes with GAK
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Well, you could get a Mac.
OS and security updates are free.
Of course, the "buy-in" cost is higher.
****slapping 22222frying pan :chairbang: :MiniGun: