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Title: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: ABX on March 12, 2019, 03:33:39 pm
Capturing it before it is deleted.



Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: ABX on March 12, 2019, 03:35:50 pm
Some great replies:



Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: txradioguy on March 12, 2019, 03:37:08 pm
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Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: ABX on March 12, 2019, 03:46:29 pm
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: TomSea on March 12, 2019, 03:54:53 pm
What's the big deal? Maybe he's right.

Maybe you could say the same about cars. Okay, the more modern, the better but they cost an arm and a leg to fix. So, that is a bit subjective to say.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: ABX on March 12, 2019, 03:59:45 pm
Quote from: TomSea on March 12, 2019, 03:54:53 pm
What's the big deal? Maybe he's right.

Maybe you could say the same about cars. Okay, the more modern, the better but they cost an arm and a leg to fix. So, that is a bit subjective to say.

Except even with a few of the recent tragedies (which cause hasn't been identified so we have no clue if it is 'complexity'), statistics continue to show that air travel and aircraft are getting safer and less dangerous. That technology he complains about, is what is making it safer...

..but don't let that get in the way of getting people scared and fired up over something that has virtually zero probability of impacting them.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: txradioguy on March 12, 2019, 04:05:23 pm
Quote from: TomSea on March 12, 2019, 03:54:53 pm
What's the big deal? Maybe he's right.

Maybe you could say the same about cars. Okay, the more modern, the better but they cost an arm and a leg to fix. So, that is a bit subjective to say.

It's about as dumb as Obama lamenting how ATM's have replaced walking up to a teller to get money at a bank.

It gives the appearance in both cases that the person talking is a Luddite.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: GrouchoTex on March 12, 2019, 04:06:50 pm
Sounds like he is raging against the machine.
All facets of life are becoming more automated, flying is definitely no exception.
I think he is realizing, if he hadn't already, that there will be a price to pay for progress.
Humans will not be require to fulfill task, suck as flying, driving, etc...
Humans (specifically, Americans) need not apply for these jobs.

Maybe he is just waxing nostalgic?
 :shrug:

The times they are a-changin'
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: edpc on March 12, 2019, 04:09:30 pm
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I can hardly wait to see Space Force.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: goatprairie on March 12, 2019, 04:19:29 pm
Some years ago The Mythbusters did an episode on landing jet airliners.  First, without any previous flying experience for any of them, both Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman, using a simulator,  successfully landed a jet airliner thanks to the plane's advanced computer guidance system.
Next, they tried to land one without the computer guidance system. They both crashed.
Statistics prove that traveling by commercial airliners is far safer than it was even twenty years ago.
Worldwide, and especially in the U.S., deaths from airliner crashes have become extremely rare.
However, in the U.S. alone about 400-500 people die annually in small plane crashes. So if your friend the doctor asks if you want to go on a trip with him the pilot in his small plane, maybe you should think twice about it.  Great professionals don't necessarily make great airplane pilots.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: TomSea on March 12, 2019, 04:23:09 pm
Say what you want, Australia, Singapore, Indonesia, China are all grounding this Boeing model of airplane.

Yes, one hears of small plane crashes all the time, that is so.

Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: skeeter on March 12, 2019, 04:26:08 pm
I don't know why he feels it necessary to comment in cases like this. Such a comment would be totally unremarkable and ordinary were he the average guy in a lunchroom but in his position they only provide grist for the usual suspects, at the very least.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: austingirl on March 12, 2019, 04:33:39 pm
Quote from: skeeter on March 12, 2019, 04:26:08 pm
I don't know why he feels it necessary to comment in cases like this. Such a comment would be totally unremarkable and ordinary were he the average guy in a lunchroom but in his position they only provide grist for the usual suspects, at the very least.

So true.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: edpc on March 12, 2019, 04:35:27 pm
Somehow, I doubt he wants the new AF1 dumbed down.


The President, who has repeatedly expressed his exasperation at his aging aircraft, wanted to meet face-to-face with Muilenburg to reach the deal, two officials said. It was seen as rather unusual for the President to be directly involved in negotiations.

The President repeatedly asked in the meeting how soon the plane could be ready, two officials said, and was fixated on a time frame of at least 2021. It remains an open question whether the Air Force can complete its testing and modifications by then. It wasn't scheduled to be ready until at least 2024.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/02/27/politics/boeing-air-force-one-donald-trump/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DTrump%2Bstrikes%2B%25243.9%2Bbillion%2Bdeal%2Bwith%2BBoeing%2Bfor%2Bnew%2BAir%2BForce%2BOne (https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/02/27/politics/boeing-air-force-one-donald-trump/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DTrump%2Bstrikes%2B%25243.9%2Bbillion%2Bdeal%2Bwith%2BBoeing%2Bfor%2Bnew%2BAir%2BForce%2BOne)
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: GtHawk on March 12, 2019, 04:43:47 pm
Quote from: edpc on March 12, 2019, 04:09:30 pm
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I can hardly wait to see Space Force.
I think he favors this model

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Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: Absalom on March 12, 2019, 04:58:24 pm
The self-educated and brilliant Ancients, were reflective listeners and observers.
In contrast, we dim-bulb Moderns are relentless yappers, always in motion.
Trump's tweets are an increasingly loud cry that he's needy of ATTENTION!!!!!
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: Rivergirl on March 12, 2019, 05:04:37 pm
He's piling on Boeing.   He's a Lockheed guy.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: ABX on March 12, 2019, 05:06:12 pm
Quote from: TomSea on March 12, 2019, 04:23:09 pm
Say what you want, Australia, Singapore, Indonesia, China are all grounding this Boeing model of airplane.

Yes, one hears of small plane crashes all the time, that is so.

Australia bans firearms because of a few deaths.
China bans religions they don't like, guns, and censors the internet worse than 1984 predicted.

I don't really think those should be used as an example for rational decision making.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: ABX on March 12, 2019, 05:08:36 pm
Quote from: skeeter on March 12, 2019, 04:26:08 pm
I don't know why he feels it necessary to comment in cases like this. Such a comment would be totally unremarkable and ordinary were he the average guy in a lunchroom but in his position they only provide grist for the usual suspects, at the very least.

There is the rub. He doesn't have to comment. There is absolutely zero reason to do so and a million not to comment.

Reminds me of this.

(https://www.quotespick.com/images/quotes/english/abraham-lincoln/better_to_remain_silent_and-319-75.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: sneakypete on March 12, 2019, 05:14:59 pm
Quote from: ABX on March 12, 2019, 03:33:39 pm
Capturing it before it is deleted.

 

Thank you for proving your ignorance of modern electronics. Muslim?
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: txradioguy on March 12, 2019, 05:36:08 pm
Quote from: Rivergirl on March 12, 2019, 05:04:37 pm
He's piling on Boeing.   He's a Lockheed guy.

Which makes no sense because it's Boeing building the new AF1.

And his personal plane is a Boeing 757.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: Absalom on March 12, 2019, 05:50:58 pm
Quote from: ABX on March 12, 2019, 05:08:36 pm
There is the rub. He doesn't have to comment. There is absolutely zero reason to do so and a million not to comment.

Reminds me of this.

(https://www.quotespick.com/images/quotes/english/abraham-lincoln/better_to_remain_silent_and-319-75.jpg)
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Those words belong to Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain).
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 12, 2019, 06:06:58 pm
Doesn't he have anything better to do?
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 12, 2019, 06:35:21 pm
I miss the days when we had a polished, smooth-talking President.  Times were great when Obastard was President.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: ABX on March 12, 2019, 07:30:52 pm
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 12, 2019, 06:35:21 pm
I miss the days when we had a polished, smooth-talking President.  Times were great when Obastard was President.

Mr. ATMs are bad and hurting all 57 states was just as dumb. He just said it with his nose higher in the air.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 12, 2019, 07:48:16 pm
Quote from: ABX on March 12, 2019, 07:30:52 pm
Mr. ATMs are bad and hurting all 57 states was just as dumb. He just said it with his nose higher in the air.

Yes, but the Media puffed him up to keep him looking sharp, even though he really is as dumb as a box of rocks.  Today we have the same Media making every effort to make a President look stupid.   :shrug:
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: catfish1957 on March 12, 2019, 10:37:00 pm
Quote from: sneakypete on March 12, 2019, 05:14:59 pm
Thank you for proving your ignorance of modern electronics. Muslim?

I hope you are the first doufous to be a passenger in "pilotless plane" bubba.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: catfish1957 on March 12, 2019, 10:39:13 pm
Quote from: ABX on March 12, 2019, 03:59:45 pm
Except even with a few of the recent tragedies (which cause hasn't been identified so we have no clue if it is 'complexity'), statistics continue to show that air travel and aircraft are getting safer and less dangerous. That technology he complains about, is what is making it safer...

..but don't let that get in the way of getting people scared and fired up over something that has virtually zero probability of impacting them.

The lengths the pro-Orange brigade will take to defend this clown is getting more innovative every day.  Almost entertainment by itself.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: Bill Cipher on March 12, 2019, 10:42:07 pm
I’m sure there have been plenty dumber. 
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 12, 2019, 10:55:54 pm
Quote from: Bill Cipher on March 12, 2019, 10:42:07 pm
I’m sure there have been plenty dumber.

I am too.   :2popcorn:
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: edpc on March 12, 2019, 11:29:38 pm
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 12, 2019, 07:48:16 pm
Yes, but the Media puffed him up to keep him looking sharp, even though he really is as dumb as a box of rocks.  Today we have the same Media making every effort to make a President look stupid.   :shrug:


That’s true, but he had sense enough to walk away from it and not grab the nearest Twitter shovel to keep digging the hole.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: MeshugeMikey on March 13, 2019, 02:58:53 am
donny  should stick to stupid photo ops..

between TIM APPLE...his PLANE rampage and PRESIDENTIAL HARRSSMENT....HES BTING IN THE HIGH NEGATIVE NUMBERS

(https://i.imgur.com/TaOubps.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: sneakypete on March 13, 2019, 03:38:40 am
Quote from: edpc on March 12, 2019, 11:29:38 pm

That’s true, but he had sense enough to walk away from it and not grab the nearest Twitter shovel to keep digging the hole.

@edpc

Hello! What part is it of him NOT being a professional politician is it that you goobers have such a hard time understanding? He grew up in and lived in a world his whole life where you either stand up for yourself against all charges or nobody will do business with you. Somebody slams him,he slams them back.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 13, 2019, 03:48:50 am
Quote from: MeshugeMikey on March 13, 2019, 02:58:53 am
donny  should stick to stupid photo ops..

between TIM APPLE...his PLANE rampage and PRESIDENTIAL HARRSSMENT....HES BTING IN THE HIGH NEGATIVE NUMBERS

(https://i.imgur.com/TaOubps.jpg)

Is that your pic, Mikey?  It's funny!
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: truth_seeker on March 13, 2019, 04:18:25 am
By the end of thi dfay.  Sen. Cruz called for the planes to be grounded.

Trump had the right subject, upon which the day's headlines were based. And everybody's fave guy is on the same wavelength.

Meanwhile mindless jabber among #nevertrumps occupies this forum.

Often wrong, usually wrong, too busy running at the mouths, to realize it.

 
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 13, 2019, 05:04:07 am
Quote from: goatprairie on March 12, 2019, 04:19:29 pm
Some years ago The Mythbusters did an episode on landing jet airliners.  First, without any previous flying experience for any of them, both Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman, using a simulator,  successfully landed a jet airliner thanks to the plane's advanced computer guidance system.
Next, they tried to land one without the computer guidance system. They both crashed.
Statistics prove that traveling by commercial airliners is far safer than it was even twenty years ago.
Worldwide, and especially in the U.S., deaths from airliner crashes have become extremely rare.
However, in the U.S. alone about 400-500 people die annually in small plane crashes. So if your friend the doctor asks if you want to go on a trip with him the pilot in his small plane, maybe you should think twice about it.  Great professionals don't necessarily make great airplane pilots.
The same phenomenon was observed after Harley-Davidson was listed on the NYSE. Suddenly there was a whole crop of people with shiny and designer leathers riding full dress motorcycles they couldn't turn around in the Walmart parking lot.

Just because you can write the check, doesn't mean you know how to drive it.

An instinctive feel for the vehicle is important, knowledge of how it works goes with that, and helps overcome the things which are counterintuitive that will get you killed.  The farther we step away from that ability to 'fly by the seat of our pants', in both technology and the human factor, the less capable we become.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 13, 2019, 05:07:00 am
Quote from: MeshugeMikey on March 13, 2019, 02:58:53 am
donny  should stick to stupid photo ops..

between TIM APPLE...his PLANE rampage and PRESIDENTIAL HARRSSMENT....HES BTING IN THE HIGH NEGATIVE NUMBERS

(https://i.imgur.com/TaOubps.jpg)
Holy crap, Mikey, that's Mary Poppins stuff, not even a Curtiss Jenny...
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 13, 2019, 08:27:55 am
Quote from: MeshugeMikey on March 13, 2019, 02:58:53 am
donny  should stick to stupid photo ops..

between TIM APPLE...his PLANE rampage and PRESIDENTIAL HARRSSMENT....HES BTING IN THE HIGH NEGATIVE NUMBERS

(https://i.imgur.com/TaOubps.jpg)

You're back! You're the funniest poster here, man!
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: aligncare on March 13, 2019, 10:02:24 am
Quote from: truth_seeker on March 13, 2019, 04:18:25 am
By the end of thi dfay.  Sen. Cruz called for the planes to be grounded.

Trump had the right subject, upon which the day's headlines were based. And everybody's fave guy is on the same wavelength.

Meanwhile mindless jabber among #nevertrumps occupies this forum.

Often wrong, usually wrong, too busy running at the mouths, to realize it.

@truth_seeker

Yeah, but nevers have so little left they can hang onto. Mueller’s witch hunt is a bust, Nadler’s inquisition is a joke and Adam the “Ant” Schiff will soon be committed to Bellevue for his own safety.

NeverTrumpers need their drive-by insults.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: aligncare on March 13, 2019, 10:04:09 am
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 13, 2019, 08:27:55 am
You're back! You're the funniest poster here, man!

Don’t encourage him. He may never leave.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 13, 2019, 10:24:43 am
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 13, 2019, 03:48:50 am
Is that your pic, Mikey?  It's funny!

No it's not @Cyber Liberty  In case you don't know this, it's insulting to the dwindling number of Trump supporters you have left on the forum.  Why are you piling on?
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 13, 2019, 01:48:32 pm
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on March 13, 2019, 10:24:43 am
No it's not @Cyber Liberty  In case you don't know this, it's insulting to the dwindling number of Trump supporters you have left on the forum.  Why are you piling on?

I forgot the /s.

That one really hates me, so I don't think he missed it...
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: GtHawk on March 14, 2019, 12:42:09 am
Quote from: MeshugeMikey on March 13, 2019, 02:58:53 am
donny  should stick to stupid photo ops..

between TIM APPLE...his PLANE rampage and PRESIDENTIAL HARRSSMENT....HES BTING IN THE HIGH NEGATIVE NUMBERS

(https://i.imgur.com/TaOubps.jpg)
I think that's really funny @Meshuge Mikey! Pay no attention to the  whiners that can't stand any dissent of Trump no matter how funny, it's almost like being stuck in room with a bunch of Obama-ites.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: GtHawk on March 14, 2019, 12:47:40 am
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on March 13, 2019, 10:24:43 am
No it's not @Cyber Liberty  In case you don't know this, it's insulting to the dwindling number of Trump supporters you have left on the forum.  Why are you piling on?
(http://i42.tinypic.com/ddddhz.jpg)

To not worship is

(http://i66.tinypic.com/2aerwav.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: NavyCanDo on March 14, 2019, 02:22:24 am
Quote from: goatprairie on March 12, 2019, 04:19:29 pm
Some years ago The Mythbusters did an episode on landing jet airliners.  First, without any previous flying experience for any of them, both Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman, using a simulator,  successfully landed a jet airliner thanks to the plane's advanced computer guidance system.
Next, they tried to land one without the computer guidance system. They both crashed.
Statistics prove that traveling by commercial airliners is far safer than it was even twenty years ago.
Worldwide, and especially in the U.S., deaths from airliner crashes have become extremely rare.
However, in the U.S. alone about 400-500 people die annually in small plane crashes. So if your friend the doctor asks if you want to go on a trip with him the pilot in his small plane, maybe you should think twice about it.  Great professionals don't necessarily make great airplane pilots.

Well said. Having flown Boeing flight simulators myself  I agree. Trump is wrong, they have not become too complex to fly. Quite the opposite. And why like you said, plan crashes have become a very rare thing.
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: MeshugeMikey on May 26, 2019, 12:07:45 am
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 13, 2019, 03:48:50 am
Is that your pic, Mikey?  It's funny!

my pic?  it's my banner i post several such masterworks everyday on donny trumps psychotic twitter feed

i get a few death threats now and then but its no big deal

this is another is  series of verbatim  quotes from Mrs Trumps Little Guy!!

(https://i.imgur.com/Omr9aZR.gif)
Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: MeshugeMikey on May 26, 2019, 12:10:36 am
Quote from: GtHawk on March 14, 2019, 12:42:09 am
I think that's really funny @Meshuge Mikey! Pay no attention to the  whiners that can't stand any dissent of Trump no matter how funny, it's almost like being stuck in room with a bunch of Obama-ites.

THANKS   

(https://i.imgur.com/ZgmLdS5.gif)

Title: Re: The Dumbest Tweet of his Career? "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly...."
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 26, 2019, 01:31:01 am
Quote from: MeshugeMikey on May 26, 2019, 12:07:45 am
my pic?  it's my banner i post several such masterworks everyday on donny trumps psychotic twitter feed

i get a few death threats now and then but its no big deal

this is another is  series of verbatim  quotes from Mrs Trumps Little Guy!!

(https://i.imgur.com/Omr9aZR.gif)

@Meshuge Mikey

More the pity I got thrown off your Bookface page, Zuck.  Repeatedly.  For not posting, I assume.