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Title: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: rangerrebew on February 13, 2019, 12:54:19 pm
 Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Posted By Nic Rowan On February 12, 2019 @ 10:37 pm In Politics


Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D., N.Y.) endorsed Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's (D., N.Y.) proposal during a Tuesday interview on MSNBC's "All In" with Chris Hayes.

"We want to see a green economy in the next decade, not because it's easy, but because it's hard," she said. "We need a moon shot, like John F. Kennedy said, ‘we're going to put a man on the moon in the next 10 years,' as a measure of America's innovation, entrepreneurial spirit. Why not make the same national call to action, to say ‘let's create a green economy in the next decade?'"


URL to article: https://freebeacon.com/politics/gillibrand-on-green-new-deal-why-not-at-least-try/
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: LMAO on February 13, 2019, 01:04:56 pm
Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Posted By Nic Rowan On February 12, 2019 @ 10:37 pm In Politics


Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D., N.Y.) endorsed Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's (D., N.Y.) proposal during a Tuesday interview on MSNBC's "All In" with Chris Hayes.

"We want to see a green economy in the next decade, not because it's easy, but because it's hard," she said. "We need a moon shot, like John F. Kennedy said, ‘we're going to put a man on the moon in the next 10 years,' as a measure of America's innovation, entrepreneurial spirit. Why not make the same national call to action, to say ‘let's create a green economy in the next decade?'"


URL to article: https://freebeacon.com/politics/gillibrand-on-green-new-deal-why-not-at-least-try/


So how many people is she willing to use as pawns and let suffer for her progressive experiment that probably won’t impact her?
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: Wingnut on February 13, 2019, 01:48:43 pm
Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’


Lets not, and say we did.
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: Jazzhead on February 13, 2019, 01:49:28 pm
California decided to "at least try" a bullet train to satisfy the burgeoning market for rail travel between LA and San Francisco.    This week they abandoned the project,  behind schedule and billions of dollars in the red.   

A determination to "at least try" without the interpolation of common sense is virtue signaling with other peoples' money.   
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: rustynail on February 13, 2019, 01:56:12 pm
She is going to do all of her travel by trains or other public transportation?
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: catfish1957 on February 13, 2019, 01:58:19 pm
A lot of the population realizes the stupidity of the enviro-whacko agenda.

I hope they stay focused on it for our benefit.
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: austingirl on February 13, 2019, 02:59:46 pm
Why not if you want to end the Republic?
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: roamer_1 on February 13, 2019, 03:20:07 pm
Quote from: the article
Some of the aspirations of the Green New Deal include plans to "totally overhaul transportation by massively expanding electric vehicle manufacturing, build charging stations everywhere, build out high-speed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary, create affordable public transit available to all, with goals to replace every combustion-engine vehicle [...]

 :silly: :silly: :silly:
Another dingbat city-dweller who has no idea whatsoever how most of this country works.
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: To-Whose-Benefit? on February 13, 2019, 03:30:03 pm
Like the meme says:

Socialism, you can always vote yourself into it,

But then you'll have to shoot your way out of it.
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: txradioguy on February 13, 2019, 03:32:36 pm
This is why I said yesterday that McConnell bringing this up for a vote was a bad idea.

It will have the exact opposite effect of what Turtle is trying to achieve.
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: Bigun on February 13, 2019, 03:54:59 pm
Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’

Because we already KNOW what the result will be you ditz!

Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: roamer_1 on February 13, 2019, 03:59:38 pm
I wonder if anybody was keeping track of how those silly electric cars did in the big freeze...
I already know. That's why they ain't here. Guess how far they get going up and down mountains in 20 below weather...

Heck, even in the summertime.
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: jmyrlefuller on February 13, 2019, 04:01:27 pm
:silly: :silly: :silly:
Another dingbat city-dweller who has no idea whatsoever how most of this country works.
These types think rural America is an inconvenience. Remember, she's a New York Democrat, and their figurehead Andrew Cuomo has made it clear that rural conservatives are "extreme" and have no place in his state.
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: jmyrlefuller on February 13, 2019, 04:03:18 pm
Quote
Why not make the same national call to action, to say ‘let's create a green economy in the next decade?'"
Because if NASA's project failed, at the very least, the only people harmed were the relatively small number of astronauts involved in it.

In the worst-case scenario for the Green New Deal, you'll be destroying the livelihoods of millions.

That's why not.
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: libertybele on February 13, 2019, 04:05:47 pm
Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’


Lets not, and say we did.

I think they should try the experiment in the State of CA and see how they fare.  If they sink further into the abyss, we'll know that it's not a good plan.  happy77
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 13, 2019, 04:05:53 pm
:silly: :silly: :silly:
Another dingbat city-dweller who has no idea whatsoever how most of this country works.
Yep. Just 'cause they can fly over it in a few hours (probably above the clouds) doesn't mean it isn't bigger than they can conceive. Put 'em out about Lander, WY and have them walk to the nearest town of 100K or more people. Then they might have a clue.
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: roamer_1 on February 13, 2019, 04:12:56 pm
Yep. Just 'cause they can fly over it in a few hours (probably above the clouds) doesn't mean it isn't bigger than they can conceive. Put 'em out about Lander, WY and have them walk to the nearest town of 100K or more people. Then they might have a clue.

Heck, I'll even spot em one of those electric golf carts they think will do... It'll get em a quarter to halfway there...  :silly:
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: Slide Rule on February 13, 2019, 06:58:44 pm
Yeppers!

We must do something. The seriousness of the fake news should prevail.

This argument, why not, is the mark of a thier and liar who ran out
of admissible arguments.

Why not at least try?


Same reason you don't to a header out of a 10 story building.

There is a problem with landings.

:)
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 13, 2019, 08:47:08 pm
The GND must be avoided, stopped at all costs. The push back must be so severe that it will not even be broached again except in whispers, with bowed and shaking heads.

The reality is that if they do try, and it fails miserably (which, environmentally and economically, it will), then the new mantra will be that we didn't try hard enough.

No Communist program is discarded without multiple iterations of failure and redoubled efforts, regardless of the increasingly disastrous results. The politicians are too deeply invested in the program, whatever it is.

Lysenkoism is a fine example, and ultimately cost the lives of untold Russians.

https://www.encyclopedia.com/science/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/disastrous-effects-lysenkoism-soviet-agriculture (https://www.encyclopedia.com/science/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/disastrous-effects-lysenkoism-soviet-agriculture)
The Soviet Union was only saved from it by Stalin's death, and the final realization the program was a failure, after over 13 years of failed crops. While Stalin lived, speaking out against the program was punishable by a trip to the Gulag or death.

Well, this same amalgamation of politics and flawed science has reared its head again in the West, wrapped in "green ideology", based on flawed precepts, and again the proposed solution is something which has the potential to cost the ordinary people their lives, not just their businesses, jobs, homes, and prosperity, all for the political imposition of 'science' more based in politics than any scientific principle or valid conclusions drawn from uncorrupted data.

We have already reached the point where speaking out against the assertions of the purveyors of the theories of Anthropogenic Climate Change has one labelled a "Denier" and shuffled off to the Academic equivalent of the gulag, in that papers are rejected by peer reviewers who are proponents of a theory primarily promoted by a guy who was not even a scientist. Now the political side of this neo-Lysenkoism is becoming increasingly shrill, and the pattern of what will follow if this is allowed to continue is written in the pages of Soviet History, in columns of altered data and documentation of crop yields which did not exist, and in the graves of those who starved, only covered up by the civilian slaughter of the Second World War.

The entire "Climate Change" hoax is just another version of Lysenkoism. If ever the economic and regulatory policy of the United States is governed by this meld of Communist politics and flawed science, the consequences will be dire, not just for untold numbers of individuals and industry, but for the Republic itself.
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: Emjay on February 13, 2019, 09:26:58 pm
This is why I said yesterday that McConnell bringing this up for a vote was a bad idea.

It will have the exact opposite effect of what Turtle is trying to achieve.

Maybe, but if this is brought into the light and actually debated, more and more people will recoil in horror.

But I don't want to hear about this idiocy for weeks.
Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on February 13, 2019, 09:28:30 pm
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Title: Re: Gillibrand on Green New Deal: ‘Why Not at Least Try?’
Post by: Wingnut on February 13, 2019, 09:31:24 pm
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