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Title: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: mystery-ak on June 26, 2020, 01:45:42 am
Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
by Anthony Leonardi, Breaking News Reporter
 | June 25, 2020 08:40 PM


Fox News host Tucker Carlson warned conservatives that President Trump may lose the election.

During Thursday’s airing of Tucker Carlson Tonight, the host, a supporter of Trump, said that it may be “tough” for Trump to win reelection if he does not adequately respond to civil unrest in the country.

“Not many people are saying it out loud on the Right. But the fact is that President Trump could well lose this election. In fact, unless fundamental facts change soon, it could be tough for him to be reelected,” Carlson said in his opening monologue. He said if former Vice President Joe Biden wins in November, the White House will be controlled by "radicals" who will "remake the country."

"We're fully aware that virtually nobody watching this show tonight wants to hear that, but it's true, and key people around the president know that it's true. They've seen the numbers," he added. All the while, the chyron banner that appeared on the bottom of screen blared in all capital letters: "President Trump may lose this election."

Carlson asserted that social cohesion in the country is eroding after nationwide protests have occurred following the Memorial Day death of George Floyd, a 46-year-old black man, in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

“An awful lot of people voted for Donald Trump precisely to avoid a moment like the one we’re now in,” Carlson said, stating that Trump’s instincts were on the side of order, tradition, and stability, but Carlson later remarked that during the rioting, Trump “said little” and “did less.”

Attorney General William Barr has referred to a “witch’s brew” of extremist groups involved in the protests. Among the people recently arrested are alleged members of the right-wing extremist "boogaloo" movement.

Activists have claimed Confederate statues, which pay tribute to Confederate leaders such as Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee, ought to be torn down. Demonstrators, however, have also attempted to tear down or petition local governments to decommission statues of historical figures such as former Presidents George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Ulysses S. Grant.

During a Wednesday press conference with Polish President Andrzej Duda in the Rose Garden, Trump said he wouldn't tolerate the destruction of statues depicting Jesus Christ, the Founding Fathers, and others as long as he was in office.

On Thursday's episode of Texas Sen. Ted Cruz's podcast, Verdict, Barr said his agency was using 35 joint terrorist task forces across the country to investigate criminal activity, saying over 500 investigations are currently underway.

"They want to tear down the country. They are different than many traditional groups, and frequently, the signs of coordination and activity are very close to the event itself," the attorney general said, describing those people behind the violence and the vandalizing of monuments.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/tucker-carlson-trump-may-lose-this-election (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/tucker-carlson-trump-may-lose-this-election)
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: mystery-ak on June 26, 2020, 01:49:12 am
Here is what I mentioned on the other thread

@HoustonSam
@skeeter
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: skeeter on June 26, 2020, 01:59:51 am
Here is what I mentioned on the other thread

@HoustonSam
@skeeter
I’m watching Trumps townhall now. He says they’ve arrested many in connection with these acts of vandalism.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: HoustonSam on June 26, 2020, 02:01:01 am
Generalizing on the concept, if government :

(a) refuses to protect the territorial integrity of the country by securing the border;
(b) refuses to maintain basic law and order in the streets of the country's major cities;
(c) fails to protect historically and culturally significant locations and monuments on public land

then why do we need government?  Surely the preservation of order and national identity are government's most fundamental functions.

Perhaps it's time for the rest of us to make clear to our elected leaders what we require of them, and what could be the consequences if they fail to meet those requirements.  And I don't mean merely that they might not be re-elected.  I mean that we simply will no longer comply.  If anarchists will not be subject to law, then why should we submit ourselves to it?
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: conservativevoter on June 26, 2020, 02:02:28 am
Tucker could be right, but I don't think so.  People didn't vote for 'the Donald' because he was the nicest; they voted for him to restore decency to the government.  Still more to do.  Hard to fight the hate of the dims and the complacency of the Republicans.

Carlson is doing the one thing he loves to do.  He is selling fear.   :yowsa:
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: mystery-ak on June 26, 2020, 02:10:19 pm
Tucker Carlson misreads Trump’s pre-election strategy

June 26, 2020
Tucker Carlson misreads Trump’s pre-election strategy
By Andrea Widburg

Since 2020’s craziness began, Tucker Carlson has been brilliant. He’s talked us through speech-killing political correctness and “cancel culture,” a health panic that leftist politicians have used to break Trump supporters, and racism as bad as that during the Jim Crow era only with the races reversed. Carlson is always unafraid to tell the truth.

When the riots started, between his job at Fox News and his home base in Washington, D.C., Carlson has had a front-row seat for the spectacle of leftist protesters systematically destroying property and America’s heritage. It is a demoralizing show.

This demoralization was front and center in Carlson’s monologue on Thursday night. He opened by saying there’s a good chance that Trump can lose the election, making Biden president. (Were that to happen, I believe America would become the first country ever knowingly to elect to its highest office a man with dementia.)

Carlson’s conclusion didn’t arise because the polls show that the basement-dwelling Biden, who’s trotted out every few days to prove he’s still alive, is soaring in the polls. After all, voters remember 2016 and Hillary’s lead. Carlson did observe that the Trump team is worried, but that wasn’t driving Carlson’s pessimism.

Instead, what concerned Carlson is that the Republicans have been supine in their response, first, to the lockdowns and, second, to the violent protests leftists have brought to America’s streets. He noted that Republican politicians were caught flatfooted because they are so naïve they can’t believe that the lockdowns and the riots are a planned and systemic attack on America’s conservative voters. They have therefore stood on the sidelines, he said, abandoning Americans to the mob.

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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/06/tucker_carlson_misreads_trumps_preelection_strategy.html (https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/06/tucker_carlson_misreads_trumps_preelection_strategy.html)
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 02:15:27 pm
Tucker could be right, but I don't think so.  People didn't vote for 'the Donald' because he was the nicest; they voted for him to restore decency to the government.  Still more to do.  Hard to fight the hate of the dims and the complacency of the Republicans.

Carlson is doing the one thing he loves to do.  He is selling fear.   :yowsa:

My apologies to the Briefer who I am forgetting that said this......   

Think about it.  How many Trump voters in 2016 are going to vote for Biden?  I just don't see them defecting. 
I do think that he is likely again to lose the popular vote.  But all he has to do, hold service and win the necessary EV's.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: FeelNoPain on June 26, 2020, 02:48:28 pm
My apologies to the Briefer who I am forgetting that said this......   

Think about it.  How many Trump voters in 2016 are going to vote for Biden? I just don't see them defecting. 
I do think that he is likely again to lose the popular vote.  But all he has to do, hold service and win the necessary EV's.

     There was a ton of suburban women in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, etc who hated the detestable Clintons and voted for Trump, figuring they would give his crazy ass a chance.
     They have, apparently, reconsidered their choice because they abandoned the GOP in 2018--in the midst of a booming economy and record low unemployment. I don't believe they are coming back in 2020.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 02:52:07 pm
     There was a ton of suburban women in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, etc who hated the detestable Clintons and voted for Trump, figuring they would give his crazy ass a chance.
     They have, apparently, reconsidered their choice because they abandoned the GOP in 2018--in the midst of a booming economy and record low unemployment. I don't believe they are coming back in 2020.

You mean the same van driving soccer moms who have been watching rioting, looting, and burning the past month?  The same ones who are watching a silent (on this matter) little girl sniffing Joe? 

I wouldn't be so sure.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: FeelNoPain on June 26, 2020, 03:17:15 pm
You mean the same van driving soccer moms who have been watching rioting, looting, and burning the past month?  The same ones who are watching a silent (on this matter) little girl sniffing Joe? 

I wouldn't be so sure.

   Yep. In their minds, it didn't happen on Obama/Biden's watch. I am not understanding why people believe this turmoil and unrest happening on Trump's watch is somehow a positive for him.
       If the country was unified, thriving, and peaceful, that would be good for Trump.
       Now that the country is roiled in turmoil and division--that's still good for Trump, as well?
   I am more inclined to bet that these suburban women just want the person who best offers them a chance at less daily drama. There is not a soul on the planet that believes Trump's forte is being a healing, unifying, soothing presence. They know Trump offers 4 more years of division, drama, and impetuousness. Good luck getting them to knowingly sign up for that.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 03:32:10 pm
   Yep. In their minds, it didn't happen on Obama/Biden's watch. I am not understanding why people believe this turmoil and unrest happening on Trump's watch is somehow a positive for him.
       If the country was unified, thriving, and peaceful, that would be good for Trump.
       Now that the country is roiled in turmoil and division--that's still good for Trump, as well?
   I am more inclined to bet that these suburban women just want the person who best offers them a chance at less daily drama. There is not a soul on the planet that believes Trump's forte is being a healing, unifying, soothing presence. They know Trump offers 4 more years of division, drama, and impetuousness. Good luck getting them to knowingly sign up for that.

I understand your sentiment, but on the point of drama.  How much more drama can be generated by watching the rioting and looting, and them giving thought of could that happen in my neighborhood?  Then giving thought to which of the two candidates would more likely protect me from that happening.  Pretty simple choice IMO.  Protection vs Capitualtion. 
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: FeelNoPain on June 26, 2020, 03:50:03 pm
I understand your sentiment, but on the point of drama.  How much more drama can be generated by watching the rioting and looting, and them giving thought of could that happen in my neighborhood?  Then giving thought to which of the two candidates would more likely protect me from that happening.  Pretty simple choice IMO.  Protection vs Capitualtion.

Fair point. But is that seeing it the way they would see it, or the way that we would see it?

Rightly or wrongly, these suburban women went 2008-2016 without worrying about rioting and looting in their neighborhoods. A possible return to those happy thoughts (again, rightly or wrongly) is more preferable than wondering who would best protect them if the Battle for Whole Foods played out in the strip mall parking lot down the street.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 04:02:17 pm
Fair point. But is that seeing it the way they would see it, or the way that we would see it?

Rightly or wrongly, these suburban women went 2008-2016 without worrying about rioting and looting in their neighborhoods. A possible return to those happy thoughts (again, rightly or wrongly) is more preferable than wondering who would best protect them if the Battle for Whole Foods played out in the strip mall parking lot down the street.

If you believe the pollsters, I would say you were right.  But we all know how biased those instituions are.  I am in firm agreement, that a sudden turn to being presidential would greatly enhance the president's chances.  Will he, or can he is a whole different question.  But I still think there are going to be relatively little or no defections.  The dim's candidate is just too weak and incompetent. 
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 04:07:36 pm
Fair point. But is that seeing it the way they would see it, or the way that we would see it?

Rightly or wrongly, these suburban women went 2008-2016 without worrying about rioting and looting in their neighborhoods. A possible return to those happy thoughts (again, rightly or wrongly) is more preferable than wondering who would best protect them if the Battle for Whole Foods played out in the strip mall parking lot down the street.

I will lean toward you in this @FeelNoPain - And primarily because no action was taken. When city and county governments failed to protect, and liberal governors obstructed and failed to protect, Then there is only one place left that protection can come from...

Not that I am a proponent of Federal action, necessarily... But Tumpy laid his claim as being urgently different from the rank and file politicians... And that does not look true to those soccer moms, I will bet.

Same thing goes for the virus nonsense. I was FOR Tumpy when he stood up and cried bullcrap... But then he folded like a 2 dollar lawn chair, and became complicit in the greatest destruction of my lifetime. Likewise in the riots - his inaction will speak volumes... And that perception of inaction is interpreted differently by the low info Joe Sixpack than it will be spun by his faithful.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: LMAO on June 26, 2020, 04:23:04 pm
There’s also the psychology of human beings that goes into the voting both. What happens if the voters  believe that a Biden Presidency  will calm the unrest?

 The anarchists have  said that they will riot if Trump wins the election. It’s a possibility that  could worry voters enough to put Biden in the White House
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: FeelNoPain on June 26, 2020, 04:51:56 pm
I will lean toward you in this @FeelNoPain - And primarily because no action was taken. When city and county governments failed to protect, and liberal governors obstructed and failed to protect, Then there is only one place left that protection can come from...

Not that I am a proponent of Federal action, necessarily... But Tumpy laid his claim as being urgently different from the rank and file politicians... And that does not look true to those soccer moms, I will bet.

Same thing goes for the virus nonsense. I was FOR Tumpy when he stood up and cried bullcrap... But then he folded like a 2 dollar lawn chair, and became complicit in the greatest destruction of my lifetime. Likewise in the riots - his inaction will speak volumes...
 And that perception of inaction is interpreted differently by the low info Joe Sixpack than it will be spun by his faithful.

@roamer_1 
I always try to consider how others may perceive things differently than I do. It's probably a survival mechanism from a childhood of being dragged all over the country, (Deep South, Heartland, Northeast, Appalachia) going from all-white schools to all-black schools, etc.
I know that the more Trump is criticized, the more his ardent supporters dig in to defend him as they feel the stakes are so high. I do admire their conviction; I just wish it was in a more credible statesman/man of principle that I could get behind, too.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 05:20:10 pm
@roamer_1 
I always try to consider how others may perceive things differently than I do. It's probably a survival mechanism from a childhood of being dragged all over the country, (Deep South, Heartland, Northeast, Appalachia) going from all-white schools to all-black schools, etc.
I know that the more Trump is criticized, the more his ardent supporters dig in to defend him as they feel the stakes are so high. I do admire their conviction; I just wish it was in a more credible statesman/man of principle that I could get behind, too.

I am right there with you brother.   :beer:
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: libertybele on June 26, 2020, 05:23:04 pm
There’s also the psychology of human beings that goes into the voting both. What happens if the voters  believe that a Biden Presidency  will calm the unrest?

 The anarchists have  said that they will riot if Trump wins the election. It’s a possibility that  could worry voters enough to put Biden in the White House

The leftist have been protesting since Hillary lost.  There should be no doubt that they are going to protest.  So ... should we allow our presidential election to be determined by mob rule?

Right now the mob is ruling and it needs to stop; otherwise we will certainly lose our Republic.  We ARE on the tip of the iceberg right now.

That is why I have stated in the past and will continue to state that unless there is a push back on the anarchists and they are dissolved we won't make it to the next election or we will see rioting and intimidation at the polls across this country.  The time to contain them is now!

Trump doesn't have to wait for the governor's permission ... that's a crock. He has the authority under the Insurrection Act to contain civil unrest.

Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: LMAO on June 26, 2020, 05:26:33 pm
I’m just wondering if those that are making Tucker Carlson the issue actually heard what he had to say or just reacting and becoming defensive because they refuse to believe that Donald Trump could lose
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: goatprairie on June 26, 2020, 05:28:07 pm
Tucker Carlson misreads Trump’s pre-election strategy

June 26, 2020
Tucker Carlson misreads Trump’s pre-election strategy
By Andrea Widburg

Since 2020’s craziness began, Tucker Carlson has been brilliant. He’s talked us through speech-killing political correctness and “cancel culture,” a health panic that leftist politicians have used to break Trump supporters, and racism as bad as that during the Jim Crow era only with the races reversed. Carlson is always unafraid to tell the truth.

When the riots started, between his job at Fox News and his home base in Washington, D.C., Carlson has had a front-row seat for the spectacle of leftist protesters systematically destroying property and America’s heritage. It is a demoralizing show.

This demoralization was front and center in Carlson’s monologue on Thursday night. He opened by saying there’s a good chance that Trump can lose the election, making Biden president. (Were that to happen, I believe America would become the first country ever knowingly to elect to its highest office a man with dementia.)

Carlson’s conclusion didn’t arise because the polls show that the basement-dwelling Biden, who’s trotted out every few days to prove he’s still alive, is soaring in the polls. After all, voters remember 2016 and Hillary’s lead. Carlson did observe that the Trump team is worried, but that wasn’t driving Carlson’s pessimism.

Instead, what concerned Carlson is that the Republicans have been supine in their response, first, to the lockdowns and, second, to the violent protests leftists have brought to America’s streets. He noted that Republican politicians were caught flatfooted because they are so naïve they can’t believe that the lockdowns and the riots are a planned and systemic attack on America’s conservative voters. They have therefore stood on the sidelines, he said, abandoning Americans to the mob.

more
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/06/tucker_carlson_misreads_trumps_preelection_strategy.html (https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/06/tucker_carlson_misreads_trumps_preelection_strategy.html)
"They have therefore stood on the sidelines, he said, abandoning Americans to the mob."

I've gotten into arguments with Trumpsters on other forums who claimed it was a great idea that Trump didn't do anything because that would show Americans what Dems were like.
They asserted that if Trump had forcibly intervened, he would go down in the polls.
Well, guess what...he didn't act, and now he's going down in the polls.
He did bluster a bit but so far has done little except have a few people arrested.
You don't think that many voters looked at the chaos and Trump's inaction and didn't like it which is probably reflected in his sliding poll numbers?
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 05:31:18 pm
He did bluster a bit but so far has done little except have a few people arrested.
You don't think that many voters looked at the chaos and Trump's inaction and didn't like it which is probably reflected in his sliding poll numbers?

To me that made it worse than if he'd said nothing at all...

Battleship mouth and a rowboat ass....
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: goatprairie on June 26, 2020, 05:41:09 pm
   Yep. In their minds, it didn't happen on Obama/Biden's watch. I am not understanding why people believe this turmoil and unrest happening on Trump's watch is somehow a positive for him.
       If the country was unified, thriving, and peaceful, that would be good for Trump.
       Now that the country is roiled in turmoil and division--that's still good for Trump, as well?
   I am more inclined to bet that these suburban women just want the person who best offers them a chance at less daily drama. There is not a soul on the planet that believes Trump's forte is being a healing, unifying, soothing presence. They know Trump offers 4 more years of division, drama, and impetuousness. Good luck getting them to knowingly sign up for that.
"Trump offers 4 more years of division, drama, and impetuousness"

The problem as I see it is that many on the fence voters (and to be sure many others...even conservatives) perceive Trump to be an a**hole. Which he is much of the time.
I knew that in 2016 but still voted for him. I haven't changed my mind, I still think he's a gigantic tool, but I'll have no problem voting for him in November.
Because there is no choice. The Dems are now a thoroughly discredited anti-American party. You had the Dem gov. of the state of New York, Cuomo, approving of the vandalism and destruction. A "healthy expression" he called it.
There are I'm sure many voters who aren't voting for Biden as much as they're voting against Trump.
I doubt there's one thing Biden would do if elected that I would approve of.  The Dems are basically an organization of criminals.
So Trump has to be my choice even with his childish demeanor and a few issues I don't agree with him about.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: corbe on June 26, 2020, 05:41:41 pm
The leftist have been protesting since Hillary lost.  There should be no doubt that they are going to protest.  So ... should we allow our presidential election to be determined by mob rule?

Right now the mob is ruling and it needs to stop; otherwise we will certainly lose our Republic.  We ARE on the tip of the iceberg right now.

That is why I have stated in the past and will continue to state that unless there is a push back on the anarchists and they are dissolved we won't make it to the next election or we will see rioting and intimidation at the polls across this country.  The time to contain them is now!

Trump doesn't have to wait for the governor's permission ... that's a crock. He has the authority under the Insurrection Act to contain civil unrest.

Insurrection Act of 1807

Application

The Insurrection Act has been invoked throughout American history. In the 19th century, it was invoked during conflicts with Native Americans. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, it was invoked during labor conflicts. Later in the 20th century, it was used to enforce federally mandated desegregation,[10] with Presidents Dwight D. Eisenhower and John F. Kennedy invoking the Act in opposition to the affected states' political leaders to enforce court-ordered desegregation.[11] More recently, governors have requested and received support most recently following looting in the aftermath of Hurricane Hugo in 1989 and during the 1992 Los Angeles riots.[12]

In 2006, the George W. Bush administration considered intervening in the state of Louisiana's response to Hurricane Katrina despite the refusal from Louisiana's governor, but this was inconsistent with past precedent, politically difficult, and potentially unconstitutional.[3]:73–75 A provision of the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007, added by an unidentified sponsor, amended the Insurrection act to permit military intervention without state consent, in case of an emergency that hindered the enforcement of laws.[1] Bush signed this amendment into law, but some months after it was enacted, all fifty state governors issued a joint statement against it, and the changes were repealed in January 2008.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act_of_1807 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act_of_1807)

   @libertybele
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: Absalom on June 26, 2020, 05:54:43 pm
@roamer_1 
I know that the more Trump is criticized, the more his ardent supporters dig in to defend him as they feel the stakes are so high. I do admire their conviction; I just wish it was in a more credible statesman/man of principle that I could get behind, too.
---------------------------
An observation/opinion.
Some 25% of the electorate will support Trump no matter what because he entertains them;
their only motivation.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: LottieDah on June 26, 2020, 07:23:20 pm
If Trump loses he can run again if wished.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 07:24:59 pm
---------------------------
An observation/opinion.
Some 25% of the electorate will support Trump no matter what because he entertains them;
their only motivation.

And about the same simply and mindlessly pullin for the Big Rhinestone 'R'
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: dfwgator on June 26, 2020, 07:31:08 pm

   I am more inclined to bet that these suburban women just want the person who best offers them a chance at less daily drama. There is not a soul on the planet that believes Trump's forte is being a healing, unifying, soothing presence. They know Trump offers 4 more years of division, drama, and impetuousness. Good luck getting them to knowingly sign up for that.

May their chains set lightly upon them.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: FeelNoPain on June 26, 2020, 07:48:44 pm
May their chains set lightly upon them.

Sam Adams! If that violent, property-destroying, anti-authority rabble-rouser was alive today, would he be down for the Antifa cause? :pondering:
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: roamer_1 on June 26, 2020, 07:51:36 pm
Sam Adams! If that violent, property-destroying, anti-authority rabble-rouser was alive today, would he be down for the Antifa cause? :pondering:

Aw hell no. And I oughta know - I drink his beer.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: Night Hides Not on June 26, 2020, 10:03:34 pm
To me that made it worse than if he'd said nothing at all...

Battleship mouth and a rowboat ass....

(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/62611219.jpg)

How many times has Trump blustered and bloviated "watch out!" on a Twitter rampage, then followed by inaction. The White House, the People's House, has been under physical attack for weeks, and what has Trump done? Sadly, he's done nothing.

IMO, his one remaining hope is that Biden demonstrates his early onset dementia in the first debate, for all to see.

(https://i.imgflip.com/z6ofu.jpg)

As for my household, our strategy is simple:

For the first time ever, we have a weapon for self defense in our house, with probably more to come. Somebody wants to torch the American flag flying from my house, they'll pay the price.

We'll be working to elect Beth Van Duyne to Congress, over a Democrat who does not live in our congressional district.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: Night Hides Not on June 26, 2020, 10:08:35 pm
---------------------------
An observation/opinion.
Some 25% of the electorate will support Trump no matter what because he entertains them;
their only motivation.

I'd say it's a bit higher, 33-35%. IMO, when Trump bullies people on Twitter, simply turns people off. A good chunk of the American public can't stand a bully. Why the most powerful man in the world has to engage in Twitter battles with virtual nobodies makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 10:12:17 pm
I'd say it's a bit higher, 33-35%. IMO, when Trump bullies people on Twitter, simply turns people off. A good chunk of the American public can't stand a bully. Why the most powerful man in the world has to engage in Twitter battles with virtual nobodies makes no sense to me.

Versus a blithering drooling pedophile suffering from dementia?  Still a pretty easy choice for me.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: Night Hides Not on June 26, 2020, 10:41:32 pm
Versus a blithering drooling pedophile suffering from dementia?  Still a pretty easy choice for me.

Your vote was never in doubt, catfish. Trump had you at "hello". I consider you one of the 35%, and I don't say that pejoratively.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 10:56:06 pm
Your vote was never in doubt, catfish. Trump had you at "hello". I consider you one of the 35%, and I don't say that pejoratively.

You obviously don't know me very well and are not familar at all with my posting history.  You got it all wrong.
Since my start at TBR, and even furhter back at TOS, I have been highly critical of DJT many many times.  Maybe one of THE MOST critical here. 

I don't like the guy, but we aren't electing a friend.  But OTOH, the alternative is an enemy who will grease the skids of socialism.    That's your choice.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: LMAO on June 26, 2020, 11:00:12 pm
I'd say it's a bit higher, 33-35%. IMO, when Trump bullies people on Twitter, simply turns people off. A good chunk of the American public can't stand a bully. Why the most powerful man in the world has to engage in Twitter battles with virtual nobodies makes no sense to me.

Or push debunked conspiracy theories when his feelings get hurt
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: libertybele on June 26, 2020, 11:00:36 pm
I’m watching Trumps townhall now. He says they’ve arrested many in connection with these acts of vandalism.

That's true ... but the leftists are bailing them out or letting them out without any bail.  Arrested many -- that's quite a broad claim -- would that be 10%, 20% 80% or .... a handful?
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: sneakypete on June 26, 2020, 11:00:39 pm

Generalizing on the concept, if government :

(a) refuses to protect the territorial integrity of the country by securing the border;
(b) refuses to maintain basic law and order in the streets of the country's major cities;
(c) fails to protect historically and culturally significant locations and monuments on public land

then why do we need government?


@HoustonSam

We don't. In FACT,we are already without a government in a sense.

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Surely the preservation of order and national identity are government's most fundamental functions.

No. The preservation of individual freedoms and the protection of our way of life by preserving the Bill of Rights are the fundamental reason we have a government.

Currently,neither seems to be happening,and it is the DNC's fault,not Trumps.

IF Trump were to respond to this now,the media would tag him as a fascist trying to preserve slavery,etc,etc,etc. The deck is stacked,and there is nothing he can do about it because he is really fighting the globalists hiding behind the Dims,and no matter what he did,any deaths and destruction would be blamed on him.

The left has been planning this and working towards it for nearly a century,and Trump is the new guy having to deal with the legacy of weak RINO and Dim presidents.

The only hope is the left pushes too hard,and gives him not only legal justification to step in and crush them,but he ends up having the backing of Steve and Sara Sushi,also.

And I really do think they are so arrogant at this point they will stop even pretending they are pro-American before the elections happen.

BUT......,IF the Dims get mail in ballots,America is over. Might as well grab your rifles and start marching on DC the day Biden/Hillary is sworn it because if you don't,your friendly neighborhood police will start confiscating them the next day,and telling you that you now need police permission to travel further than 10 miles from home,and a permit to prove it.

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Perhaps it's time for the rest of us to make clear to our elected leaders what we require of them, and what could be the consequences if they fail to meet those requirements.  And I don't mean merely that they might not be re-elected.  I mean that we simply will no longer comply.  If anarchists will not be subject to law, then why should we submit ourselves to it?


There it is!
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: LMAO on June 26, 2020, 11:05:44 pm
I mean that we simply will no longer comply.  If anarchists will not be subject to law, then why should we submit ourselves to it?

This is coming. And they will attempt to clamp down on passive resisters a lot stronger than those who are rioting. But you can't arrest the whole country
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: sneakypete on June 26, 2020, 11:05:45 pm
   
   I am more inclined to bet that these suburban women just want the person who best offers them a chance at less daily drama.

@FeelNoPain

Say WHAT? WOMEN want LESS drama?

What planet in what solar system do these women come from?
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: LMAO on June 26, 2020, 11:10:23 pm
These issues are tailor made for the GOP to win big. You have Democratic governors feeling their oats and putting unconstitutional mandates on their citizens over C19 and you have out of control riots and rising crime in Democratic Party run cities. Yet, nothing from the GOP but bowing and blustering

Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: libertybele on June 26, 2020, 11:24:02 pm


@HoustonSam

We don't. In FACT,we are already without a government in a sense.

No. The preservation of individual freedoms and the protection of our way of life by preserving the Bill of Rights are the fundamental reason we have a government.

Currently,neither seems to be happening,and it is the DNC's fault,not Trumps.

IF Trump were to respond to this now,the media would tag him as a fascist trying to preserve slavery,etc,etc,etc. The deck is stacked,and there is nothing he can do about it because he is really fighting the globalists hiding behind the Dims,and no matter what he did,any deaths and destruction would be blamed on him.

The left has been planning this and working towards it for nearly a century,and Trump is the new guy having to deal with the legacy of weak RINO and Dim presidents.

The only hope is the left pushes too hard,and gives him not only legal justification to step in and crush them,but he ends up having the backing of Steve and Sara Sushi,also.

And I really do think they are so arrogant at this point they will stop even pretending they are pro-American before the elections happen.

BUT......,IF the Dims get mail in ballots,America is over. Might as well grab your rifles and start marching on DC the day Biden/Hillary is sworn it because if you don't,your friendly neighborhood police will start confiscating them the next day,and telling you that you now need police permission to travel further than 10 miles from home,and a permit to prove it.


There it is!

IF... IF... IF .... Trump acted the left would call him ....blah...blah... blah....he would lose support....blah...blah... etc.  I'm sorry, that's a sorry excuse. He has the full authority under the Insurrection Act to put a halt to all of this. The first time he made a declaration that he would act he should have done so.  Now, the problem is growing along with their demands.

Our Republic IS under assault .  There is no gray area here. These aren't your ordinary blacks grieving over Floyd anymore. These are dangerous radicals with an agenda to topple and over throw our country and no one is doing a damn thing.  535 members of Congress, our President, our governors, our mayors, our city officials for the most part sit idly by and allow the anarchists to continue.

It seems to me that there are DEMS who aren't enjoying watching their country destroyed either -- these are the people that may be more inclined to vote for Trump if he were to get things under control rather than voting for Sloe Joe.  The longer Trump waits the weaker and more incompetent he appears and they are more likely to continue to believe the lies and deceit that the left has been handing them since Trump took office.

BLM/Antifa and other Soros funded organizations aren't just a passing fad they are here to stay and they plan to destroy and overtake.  They are succeeding.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: catfish1957 on June 26, 2020, 11:27:59 pm
Just as a side note.  Many of Tucker Carlson's advertisers have abandoned him in his quest to share the truth.

if you can,  patronize the remaining ones, and encourage other companies to join.   
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: sneakypete on June 26, 2020, 11:33:22 pm
These issues are tailor made for the GOP to win big. You have Democratic governors feeling their oats and putting unconstitutional mandates on their citizens over C19 and you have out of control riots and rising crime in Democratic Party run cities. Yet, nothing from the GOP but bowing and blustering

@LMAO

Timing is everything,Obi Wan.

These issues are tailor made for the GOP to win big. You have Democratic governors feeling their oats and putting unconstitutional mandates on their citizens over C19 and you have out of control riots and rising crime in Democratic Party run cities. Yet, nothing from the GOP but bowing and blustering

@LMAO

Timing is everything,Obi Wan.

Today,for example,is the first time I have ever seen citizens fighting back against the "empowered" left. It happened with His and Her Panics were trying to take down a statue of Columbus,and one of the attacked a old man and beat him on the head with his loudspeaker.  If it hadn't been for him running and cowering behind the cops,he would have received a serious beatdown.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: sneakypete on June 26, 2020, 11:59:14 pm
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IF... IF... IF .... Trump acted the left would call him ....blah...blah... blah....he would lose support....blah...blah... etc.  I'm sorry, that's a sorry excuse. He has the full authority under the Insurrection Act to put a halt to all of this.


@libertybele

Blah,blah,blah,right back at you. Having the AUTHORITY is NOT the same thing as having THE APPROVAL of the voters,and in case you haven't heard,there is an election coming up.

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The first time he made a declaration that he would act he should have done so.  Now, the problem is growing along with their demands.

I am guessing you think giving them enough rope to hang themselves is a bad strategy to follow?

IF he were to have done as you and several others here want,and sicced the army on them at first riot,
the media and the left would be SUCCESSFULLY portraying him as a power mad Nazi that tried to restrict the right to peaceful protest.

This whole "peaceful protest" excuse gets lamer and lamer with each day that passes,and it won't be long before mayors and local news crews start demanding "Trump do something to stop the riots,property damage,and violence!"

When this starts happening,and it will,Trump can crack down on them and most of today's "undecided voters" will no longer be undecided,and he will win re-election.  I suspect it will be "no more Mr.Nice Guy" once he is re-elected,and he is going to hammer the hell out of the left with the full approval of everyone that is not a dedicated leftie activist.


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Our Republic IS under assault .  There is no gray area here. These aren't your ordinary blacks grieving over Floyd anymore. These are dangerous radicals with an agenda to topple and over throw our country and no one is doing a damn thing.  535 members of Congress, our President, our governors, our mayors, our city officials for the most part sit idly by and allow the anarchists to continue.

Yes,and to get public approval to stomp them out of existence we need to wait until  it gets to the point where local authorities are starting to fight back and DEMANDING federal help. ANYTHING that happens before that will be seen as a negative by the "undecided voters" that end up deciding every election.

Pay attention here,because this part is important. The timing MUST be right because if it isn't the left will take over and we will never again even have a public election.

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It seems to me that there are DEMS who aren't enjoying watching their country destroyed either -- these are the people that may be more inclined to vote for Trump if he were to get things under control rather than voting for Sloe Joe.


Yup,and Trump will NOT get their support if he strikes too early,and the left gets the chance and the time to play the "Victum card".

We need to have these people PAST the "aren't enjoying" stage and get to the "Off with their freaking heads!" stage,and THEN strike.

   
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The longer Trump waits the weaker and more incompetent he appears and they are more likely to continue to believe the lies and deceit that the left has been handing them since Trump took office.

Only to those with child-like impatience. Just think of how excited these people are going to be when he DOES drop the hammer.

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BLM/Antifa and other Soros funded organizations aren't just a passing fad they are here to stay and they plan to destroy and overtake.  They are succeeding.

Really? Does Trump seem like a forgiving guy to you? Seriously?

If he bides his time and strikes at the right moment,he will be able to take out Soros and his pals with the full approval and backing of the voters.

What you and others seem to fail to realize is that no matter how evil and organized the Dims/Soros/WorldWideGovernment,Inc seems to be to thee and me,the typical undecided voter doesn't have a freaking clue they even exist. And won't believe you if you try to tell them.

To get them on the same bandwagon as the rest of us,it is first necessary to get them to expose the true goals and nature of Soros and his lackeys to the general public. Do that,and we win BIG-TIME.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 12:25:57 am
How many times has Trump blustered and bloviated "watch out!" on a Twitter rampage, then followed by inaction. The White House, the People's House, has been under physical attack for weeks, and what has Trump done? Sadly, he's done nothing.


I honestly think he says all kinds of crap on all sides of every issue, and folks just remember what they want to...

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IMO, his one remaining hope is that Biden demonstrates his early onset dementia in the first debate, for all to see.

Six of one, half dozen of the other...  :shrug: :whistle:


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As for my household, our strategy is simple:

For the first time ever, we have a weapon for self defense in our house, with probably more to come. Somebody wants to torch the American flag flying from my house, they'll pay the price.


Well, I ain't got that problem. I got plenty here, and everything I have here is duplicated in to more places back in the sticks.

Not made for home defense, nor gunning folks down... just part of the nature of living out here, for hunting, protection in the woods, and protecting critters from predators. But what I got will do, and I know how plenty.

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We'll be working to elect Beth Van Duyne to Congress, over a Democrat who does not live in our congressional district.

Good on ya. That's Texas, right? Man I hope you ain't in a big town... That's what I would be worried about... Even here, There's something like 40k in town, and maybe 70k total in the valley, and I ain't no where near far enough out if shit goes sideways.

I got 20 acres of woods now,  5 miles out, off the blacktop, 10 miles of gravel, 2 miles of two-track to get there.... If push comes to shove, I can make do out there. Got some outfitters tents and working on a cabin soon. Cellar and a barn, and I can make it work. That's where I am going.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: Fishrrman on June 27, 2020, 12:48:08 am
catfish wrote:
"I don't like the guy, but we aren't electing a friend.  But OTOH, the alternative is an enemy who will grease the skids of socialism. That's your choice."

At the very least you are a rational realist. That's a good thing.

But you're missing something important, and it's vital that every member of this forum understand this:
It's not "socialism" that they're pushing for.
What did Mr. Lenin say... about "socialism" as a "goal"?

In any case, I will offer this again before the forum, and mark my words:
"After Trump.... the deluge."

A Fishrrman prediction:
5-10 years down the road from the democrat-communist takeover, I predict most folks on the right will be wishin for an American Pinochet to appear, and lead the country through "a Chilean solution". When all is said and done, nothing less than that may be required to cleanse us of the scourge of the left.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: libertybele on June 27, 2020, 12:51:54 am
catfish wrote:
"I don't like the guy, but we aren't electing a friend.  But OTOH, the alternative is an enemy who will grease the skids of socialism. That's your choice."

At the very least you are a rational realist. That's a good thing.

But you're missing something important, and it's vital that every member of this forum understand this:
It's not "socialism" that they're pushing for.
What did Mr. Lenin say... about "socialism" as a "goal"?

In any case, I will offer this again before the forum, and mark my words:
"After Trump.... the deluge."

This could already be the "after Trump" ... not exactly a stellar year end performance....just sayin'
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: Night Hides Not on June 27, 2020, 12:56:17 am
You obviously don't know me very well and are not familar at all with my posting history.  You got it all wrong.
Since my start at TBR, and even furhter back at TOS, I have been highly critical of DJT many many times.  Maybe one of THE MOST critical here. 

I don't like the guy, but we aren't electing a friend.  But OTOH, the alternative is an enemy who will grease the skids of socialism.    That's your choice.

@catfish1957 , I apologize for the error.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: libertybele on June 27, 2020, 01:40:12 am


@libertybele

Blah,blah,blah,right back at you. Having the AUTHORITY is NOT the same thing as having THE APPROVAL of the voters,and in case you haven't heard,there is an election coming up.

I am guessing you think giving them enough rope to hang themselves is a bad strategy to follow?

IF he were to have done as you and several others here want,and sicced the army on them at first riot,
the media and the left would be SUCCESSFULLY portraying him as a power mad Nazi that tried to restrict the right to peaceful protest.

This whole "peaceful protest" excuse gets lamer and lamer with each day that passes,and it won't be long before mayors and local news crews start demanding "Trump do something to stop the riots,property damage,and violence!"

When this starts happening,and it will,Trump can crack down on them and most of today's "undecided voters" will no longer be undecided,and he will win re-election.  I suspect it will be "no more Mr.Nice Guy" once he is re-elected,and he is going to hammer the hell out of the left with the full approval of everyone that is not a dedicated leftie activist.


Yes,and to get public approval to stomp them out of existence we need to wait until  it gets to the point where local authorities are starting to fight back and DEMANDING federal help. ANYTHING that happens before that will be seen as a negative by the "undecided voters" that end up deciding every election.

Pay attention here,because this part is important. The timing MUST be right because if it isn't the left will take over and we will never again even have a public election.
 

Yup,and Trump will NOT get their support if he strikes too early,and the left gets the chance and the time to play the "Victum card".

We need to have these people PAST the "aren't enjoying" stage and get to the "Off with their freaking heads!" stage,and THEN strike.

   
Only to those with child-like impatience. Just think of how excited these people are going to be when he DOES drop the hammer.

Really? Does Trump seem like a forgiving guy to you? Seriously?

If he bides his time and strikes at the right moment,he will be able to take out Soros and his pals with the full approval and backing of the voters.

What you and others seem to fail to realize is that no matter how evil and organized the Dims/Soros/WorldWideGovernment,Inc seems to be to thee and me,the typical undecided voter doesn't have a freaking clue they even exist. And won't believe you if you try to tell them.

To get them on the same bandwagon as the rest of us,it is first necessary to get them to expose the true goals and nature of Soros and his lackeys to the general public. Do that,and we win BIG-TIME.

@sneakypete  you and others continue to assume that everything hinges on the election. It really doesn't at this point. I'm looking at things from a different perspective.  Just looking back at the Trump rally that took place a few days ago -- the anarchists succeeded in preventing his supporters from attending.  What would make anyone think that they won't show up at the polls and prevent Trump's supporters from voting??  What would then make anyone think that, because of the continued violence and mayhem that the DEMS won't demand mail-in or on-line voting?   If either of those scenarios prevail, Trump will likely lose due to fraud and corruption alone.  Soros' influence isn't just limited to the U.S...his pockets run deep and he has connections and controls companies all over the world. 

I don't see that there is any "magic moment" that Trump is waiting for.  I think he realizes that he blew his chance.  He showed a lot of guts walking across the street to St. John's and held the Bible and made comments about utilizing the military.  The opposition didn't blink.  Not for a second.  They continued on. Trump did nothing. They've already called his bluff.  He's already shown that he's not willing to go ahead and utilize his authority, nor has any governor asked for his assistance.  These aren't your every day thugs; they've been calculating this movement for a long time...they struck at their "magic moment"....Trump's magic moment came and went.  They know it and so does he.

Our President, 535 members of Congress, governors, and other elected officials haven't done much ... do you really think all of them are going to have some kind of epiphany all of a sudden and take care of this mess and then business as usual and off to the ballot boxes?  I don't think so.



Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: sneakypete on June 27, 2020, 02:04:03 am
@sneakypete  you and others continue to assume that everything hinges on the election.

@libertybele

Only because it does. If the Dims take the WH,America is over.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: DCPatriot on June 27, 2020, 02:16:42 am
@libertybele

Only because it does. If the Dims take the WH,America is over.

Personally, if the Democrats win in November, between 11/4/20 and 1/20/21, I'll renege on my decision to not purchase firearms.

And I'm more than willing to water that Tree of Liberty, to which Mr. Jefferson referred.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: libertybele on June 27, 2020, 02:21:41 am
@libertybele

Only because it does. If the Dims take the WH,America is over.
I'm not disagreeing with you on that issue; without a doubt if the DEMS take the WH America is over; however,  I don't see this country making it to another election; too much destruction and mayhem going on already with no end in sight.  Thinking that this is going to go away and everything will be back to normal all by itself isn't going to happen unless something is down to curtail the anarchists and allow a peaceful and fair election.  That doesn't look like likely -- everything hinges on being able to restore some semblance of law and order so that we even have an election.  That's where you and I differ -- you assume that we're going to have another election.  I'm not that optimistic. So putting all the efforts and ideas on Trump v. Biden is futile unless action is taken to ensure that there's an election. Again, do you really think that BLM/Antifa are going to allow Trump supporters to vote??  How many precincts do you think they'll destroy between now and election day??  So .... mail in?  On-line? Fair election?  Think again.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: 240B on June 27, 2020, 02:31:43 am
If Trump loses, it will be due to his inability to see evil.
He is unable to choose staff because for whatever reason he cannot comprehend nefarious intent.
Over and over and over again he has chosen diehard committed 'NeverTrump or die' people to be his top advisors. Nobody can understand this? He thinks he can win them over or something. I guess?
I could name a few, but there is no need. We all know who they are. (Sessions)
However Trump, for some inexplicable reason, cannot see what we all see.
His staff choices over his entire term is what will do him.
He has picked avowed NeverTrumps who want to see him and his family dead.
Now he has Fauci running the national COVID program. Schiff would be more truthful and less political.
Why he always seems to choose the worst possible people, nobody knows?
He has somebody in his ear guiding him in terms of staffing. Whomever that person is, is not helping him.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 02:37:35 am
What would make anyone think that they won't show up at the polls and prevent Trump's supporters from voting??

Well I see what you are getting at, @libertybele ... But really, not a thing. The only place they can show up and prevent voting is where liberals are in charge anyhoo. That sure as hell won't happen out here.

So what's the difference if only liberal voters get to vote in NYC? Won't really change a dang thing.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 02:37:41 am
I'm not disagreeing with you on that issue; without a doubt if the DEMS take the WH America is over; however,  I don't see this country making it to another election; too much destruction and mayhem going on already with no end in sight.  Thinking that this is going to go away and everything will be back to normal all by itself isn't going to happen unless something is down to curtail the anarchists and allow a peaceful and fair election.  That doesn't look like likely -- everything hinges on being able to restore some semblance of law and order so that we even have an election.  That's where you and I differ -- you assume that we're going to have another election.  I'm not that optimistic. So putting all the efforts and ideas on Trump v. Biden is futile unless action is taken to ensure that there's an election. Again, do you really think that BLM/Antifa are going to allow Trump supporters to vote??  How many precincts do you think they'll destroy between now and election day??  So .... mail in?  On-line? Fair election?  Think again.

You do realize you are making a case for mail in voting.  There is going to be an election.  I don't believe that is going to happen, but if it did I would hold Trump responsible.  Talking about law and order, but not doing a thing about it.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: DCPatriot on June 27, 2020, 02:39:39 am
If Trump loses, it will be due to his inability to see evil.
He is unable to choose staff because for whatever reason he cannot comprehend nefarious intent.
Over and over and over again he has chosen diehard committed 'NeverTrump or die' people to be his top advisors. Nobody can understand this? He thinks he can win them over or something. I guess?
I could name a few, but there is no need. We all know who they are. (Sessions)
However Trump, for some inexplicable reason, cannot see what we all see.
His staff choices over his entire term is what will do him.
He has picked avowed NeverTrumps who want to see him and his family dead.
Now he has Fauci running the national COVID program. Schiff would be more truthful and less political.
Why he always seems to choose the worst possible people, nobody knows?
He has somebody in his ear guiding him in terms of staffing. Whomever that person is, is not helping him.

As Rush eloquently explained this afternoon, President Trump has a narrow path to walk...not unlike Abraham Lincoln did with the Southern State governors and his military.

What if he told his generals to enter these cities and states to quell the madness and they simply refused...as that silk-pantie-wearing freak general who almost broke a leg in his rush to the microphone to apologize for escorting the POTUS to Saint John's Church adjacent to the White House?

Abe found his General Grant to take on the task.

You can be sure that Pres. Trump is still interviewing.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: HoustonSam on June 27, 2020, 02:48:58 am
If Trump loses, it will be due to his inability to see evil.
He is unable to choose staff because for whatever reason he cannot comprehend nefarious intent.
Over and over and over again he has chosen diehard committed 'NeverTrump or die' people to be his top advisors. Nobody can understand this? He thinks he can win them over or something. I guess?
I could name a few, but there is no need. We all know who they are. (Sessions)
However Trump, for some inexplicable reason, cannot see what we all see.
His staff choices over his entire term is what will do him.
He has picked avowed NeverTrumps who want to see him and his family dead.
Now he has Fauci running the national COVID program. Schiff would be more truthful and less political.
Why he always seems to choose the worst possible people, nobody knows?
He has somebody in his ear guiding him in terms of staffing. Whomever that person is, is not helping him.


He is guided in this, as in all things, by his own narcissism.  If someone recently flattered him (like Sessions when he endorsed Trump) then they are a great American, and he will more likely select them for appointed office.  But Trump seems to confuse endorsement with enduring personal loyalty.  And in fairness he has selected people, like Rex Tillerson, who had not flattered him publicly; but if they don't abase themselves toward him, they're toast.

There is no one whispering in Trump's ear about appointments.  He is his own man, for better or worse.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: libertybele on June 27, 2020, 02:51:05 am
As Rush eloquently explained this afternoon, President Trump has a narrow path to walk...not unlike Abraham Lincoln did with the Southern State governors and his military.

What if he told his generals to enter these cities and states to quell the madness and they simply refused...as that silk-pantie-wearing freak general who almost broke a leg in his rush to the microphone to apologize for escorting the POTUS to Saint John's Church adjacent to the White House?

Abe found his General Grant to take on the task.

You can be sure that Pres. Trump is still interviewing.

Interesting and a possibility that I hadn't considered.  I can't imagine though any general continuing to allow the destruction of national monuments, flag burning and defiling of historical buildings, etc.  The goal of the anarchists is quite obvious which is to take down this country, the same country that they've spent years defending.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 03:14:40 am
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An observation/opinion.
Some 25% of the electorate will support Trump no matter what because he entertains them;
their only motivation.

That is a fact.  I realized when I watched the WWF video of McMahon and Trump that its exactly what he does at his rallies.  They were chanting Trump, Trump, Trump back then too.  What did they want?  They wanted McMahons head shaved.  Same things with the rallies.  Always a villain.

Its all about entertainment.  And the Q anon stuff.  Conspiracies.   Its just not serious.  I can't take it seriously.  Maybe that's my issue.  I want to see a leader instead I see a clown.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 03:41:20 am
If Trump loses, it will be due to his inability to see evil.
He is unable to choose staff because for whatever reason he cannot comprehend nefarious intent.
Over and over and over again he has chosen diehard committed 'NeverTrump or die' people to be his top advisors. Nobody can understand this? He thinks he can win them over or something. I guess?
I could name a few, but there is no need. We all know who they are. (Sessions)
However Trump, for some inexplicable reason, cannot see what we all see.
His staff choices over his entire term is what will do him.
He has picked avowed NeverTrumps who want to see him and his family dead.
Now he has Fauci running the national COVID program. Schiff would be more truthful and less political.
Why he always seems to choose the worst possible people, nobody knows?
He has somebody in his ear guiding him in terms of staffing. Whomever that person is, is not helping him.

Would be impossible for that to happen for the God anointed "chosen one".   God would be directing his path.  What's up with that?  God makes mistakes?
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: 240B on June 27, 2020, 03:50:32 am
Would be impossible for that to happen for the God anointed "chosen one".   God would be directing his path.  What's up with that?  God makes mistakes?
@Chosen Daughter
I am so glad you said that. Because you are absolutely correct. You are right. Who can possibly know how all this will work out? You are appropriate and have cause me to refocus. Thank You for that bit of clarity. I needed it.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 03:58:10 am
@Chosen Daughter
I am so glad you said that. Because you are absolutely correct. You are right. Who can possibly know how all this will work out? You are appropriate and have cause me to refocus. Thank You for that bit of clarity. I needed it.

I never thought anyone was listening.  I really do not say those things lightly.  But the presidents and Christians have promoted this idea that Trump is anointed by God.  Just calling it as I see it.  We need to discern these things. 

Glad you posted.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: 240B on June 27, 2020, 04:08:45 am
I never thought anyone was listening.  I really do not say those things lightly.  But the presidents and Christians have promoted this idea that Trump is anointed by God.  Just calling it as I see it.  We need to discern these things. 

Glad you posted.  Thanks.
What we are witnessing domestically, politically, and globally, is Biblical.
Seriously, one could wright tombs on what has happened over the last 4-5 years.
And it would fit directly with the ancient texts.
Something is coming. We do not know what it is.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 04:18:11 am
What we are witnessing domestically, politically, and globally, is Biblical.
Seriously, one could wright tombs on what has happened over the last 4-5 years.
And it would fit directly with the ancient texts.
Something is coming. We do not know what it is.

There sure are a lot of nay sayers but you are right.  The last 4-5 years have not been better.  Its increasing chaos.  I really worry about people.  I worry that people are placing their hope in the wrong place.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: catfish1957 on June 27, 2020, 08:11:54 am
@catfish1957 , I apologize for the error.

No need for apology, I just wanted to clarify......

 :beer:
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: sneakypete on June 27, 2020, 03:12:46 pm
Personally, if the Democrats win in November, between 11/4/20 and 1/20/21, I'll renege on my decision to not purchase firearms.



@DCPatriot

I hope you have a lot of money saved up,because they ain't going to be cheap.

Also,make sure you order ammo and cleaning kits.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: sneakypete on June 27, 2020, 03:17:56 pm

 That's where you and I differ -- you assume that we're going to have another election.  I'm not that optimistic. So putting all the efforts and ideas on Trump v. Biden is futile unless action is taken to ensure that there's an election. Again, do you really think that BLM/Antifa are going to allow Trump supporters to vote?? 

@libertybele

Honestly,I get a little giddy with delight at the thought of any of those posers trying to stop me,and I seriously doubt I am the only one that thinks that way.


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How many precincts do you think they'll destroy between now and election day??
 

I dunno,but I DO know they won't be destroying the one where I will vote. I do welcome them making an effort to try,though.

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So .... mail in?  On-line? Fair election?  Think again.

Neither should ever be allowed except for military members serving overseas.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: sneakypete on June 27, 2020, 03:21:59 pm
Interesting and a possibility that I hadn't considered.  I can't imagine though any general continuing to allow the destruction of national monuments, flag burning and defiling of historical buildings, etc. The goal of the anarchists is quite obvious which is to take down this country, the same country that they've spent years defending.

@libertybele

Ever had any dealings with General Officers? I have,and trust me,many would run over their own children if they thought it would benefit them personally.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 03:23:06 pm
What we are witnessing domestically, politically, and globally, is Biblical.
Seriously, one could wright tombs on what has happened over the last 4-5 years.
And it would fit directly with the ancient texts.
Something is coming. We do not know what it is.

Yes we do... You need to read the end of the Book...
Shabbat Shalom, Y'all
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: NavyCanDo on June 27, 2020, 04:10:49 pm
Agree with Tucker on this one. It's become obvious over the last six months that Americans have made a hard turn to the left.  AOC winning 73% of the vote after all the appalling things she has said is proof enough. Democrats, the Media, and now you can include some deep-state Republicans gathering like jackals for the kill.   The one thing to hang our hat on is Hillary also had a double digit lead in June 2016, but nothing makes sense in 2020. 
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: corbe on June 27, 2020, 04:15:15 pm
Trump Needs Another Miracle

In January, four more years of economic strength, American isolationism, accountability from trade partners and NATO members, social media childishness, lower taxes and regulations - the mixed bag that had become the Trump Presidency - seemed all but certain.

by Jason Thomas
June 26th, 2020


With impeachment behind him, mounting evidence of illegal sabotage from the prior administration, a freshly signed “phase one” China trade deal, record low unemployment, a booming economy and a weak slate of Democrat candidates, President Donald J. Trump was poised for a triumphant 2020 and an easy glide to re-election.

Kobe Bryant was still alive. The Kansas City (MO) Chiefs were marching through the NFL playoffs. The NBA and college basketball seasons were in full swing. The world was still laughing at Ricky Gervais’ takedown of smug Hollywood types at the Golden Globe Awards. Democrats were still feigning horror at the killing of Iranian terrorist, General Qassem Soleimani.

The year was off to an eventful start. Most Americans had a general vision of how they expected 2020 to go. The majority of the country was hopeful. President Trump was divisive, as always. He was at odds with Speaker Nancy Pelosi and was steadily pecking away on Twitter. While tiresome, it had all become fairly routine. Primaries were beginning and Bernie Sanders seemed to be the favorite in the Democrat race for the White House, something which would almost assure a Trump victory. Four more years of economic strength, American isolationism, accountability from trade partners and NATO members, social media childishness, lower taxes and regulations – the mixed bag that had become the Trump Presidency – seemed all but certain.

In a place called Wuhan, of which most Americans had never heard, a virus was spreading. More people were getting sick than in most winters, and they were getting sicker than usual. In Minneapolis, George Floyd and Derek Chauvin were going about their business, perhaps crossing paths at El Nuevo Rodeo Club, where they both worked security jobs.

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https://theresurgent.com/2020/06/26/trump-needs-another-miracle/ (https://theresurgent.com/2020/06/26/trump-needs-another-miracle/)
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: sneakypete on June 27, 2020, 06:08:45 pm
Trump Needs Another Miracle

In January, four more years of economic strength, American isolationism, accountability from trade partners and NATO members, social media childishness, lower taxes and regulations - the mixed bag that had become the Trump Presidency - seemed all but certain.

by Jason Thomas
June 26th, 2020



Mister Thomas,with all due respect,ESAD.

How can YOU or anyone else possibly expect to be taken seriously when you are still playing "RINO in the middle of the road games"?

Kung Flu is a VERY effective "buzz word" to help spread the word that this virus WAS engineered in China,and BROUGHT TO THE US.

Let me dumb that down to a level even a journalist might understand. The Chinese are at fault for creating the virus and "allowing" it to escape from their lab,and the DNC is responsible for everything that has happened since then,INCLUDING the murders that happened during the riots and the property damage.

"Kung Flu" is a clever 2 word method of reminding people of this.

And make no mistake about it,this was ALL done on purpose by the Chinese and the DNC,who are brothers in Global Fascism.


 
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: Absalom on June 27, 2020, 08:03:53 pm
Tucker could be right, but I don't think so.  People didn't vote for 'the Donald' because he was the nicest; they voted for him to restore decency to the government.  Still more to do.  Hard to fight the hate of the dims and the complacency of the Republicans. Carlson is doing the one thing he loves to do, selling fear. 
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* Trump wouldn't know decency from indecency; given his chronic behavior since puberty.
* Trump cannot judge character, resulting in the morons and misfits he appoints.
* Trump is an Entertainer, always and ever since birth; the core reason he maintains a grip
on his Fans.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 08:39:39 pm
People didn't vote for 'the Donald' because he was the nicest; they voted for him to restore decency to the government. 

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Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: Chosen Daughter on June 27, 2020, 09:09:30 pm
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That's a lady without makeup!  And teeth.  Probably drank too much Coca Cola.
Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: Trump may lose this election
Post by: roamer_1 on June 27, 2020, 09:41:13 pm
That's a lady without makeup!  And teeth.  Probably drank too much Coca Cola.

 :silly: :beer: