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Title: GOP wants to put Democrats on the spot again with vote on 'Medicare for all'
Post by: mystery-ak on April 11, 2019, 02:29:54 pm
April 11, 2019

GOP wants to put Democrats on the spot again with vote on 'Medicare for all'
By Rick Moran

Senate Democrats are livid with GOP Majority Leader Mitch McConnell for forcing them to put their money where their mouth is when it comes to their radical, wildly expensive proposals.

First, McConnell held a vote on the Green New Deal. Every Democratic Senator voted "present." Now McConnell has turned his attention to the Dems "Medicare for all" proposal with a view toward embarrassing them again.

Politico:

    McConnell has not yet said whether he’ll bring the health care bill, introduced Wednesday, up for a vote, but some Republicans are hopeful he will.

    “I think it deserves a full debate and a vote and see how many Democrats who are co-sponsors actually support it,” said Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.), chairman of the Senate Republican Conference.

    Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) said he hoped the bill would be brought to the floor. Senate Majority Whip John Thune (R-S.D.) noted that the decision was ultimately up to McConnell but that a vote “stakes out people’s position,” while Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) said that “we’ll see how many of the other senators running for president are co-sponsors of the bill.”

    “It’s a big issue, and if they want to have debate on this, we can have one,” Blunt said.

    A Senate leadership aide suggested there was openness on the part of Republicans to push for a vote. “The Green New Deal vote helped shine a light on the Democrats’ radical plans,” the aide said, “and we will be looking for future opportunities to highlight their socialist agenda.”

    Although McConnell has not indicated what he’ll do on Medicare for All, he blasted the proposal Wednesday in an interview with Fox News’ Bret Baier.

    “It ought to be called ‘Medicare for None,’” he said. “One hundred eighty million Americans would lose their private health insurance, that many of them have negotiated for at work. … You want to turn America into a socialist country? This is the first step.”

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Title: Re: GOP wants to put Democrats on the spot again with vote on 'Medicare for all'
Post by: Snarknado on April 11, 2019, 02:50:33 pm
I'd be in favor of a vote, assuming it pins down costs and limitations of coverage.

One thing in particular that needs to be stressed is that seniors currently have choices - basic Medicare with or without a private supplemental plan and drug plan, or Medicare advantage plans that cover everything in network with premiums that start at zero. And they can change their choice each year as their needs change. I'd love to hear their reaction to being forced into a one-size-fits-all program.
Title: Re: GOP wants to put Democrats on the spot again with vote on 'Medicare for all'
Post by: Sanguine on April 11, 2019, 03:02:21 pm
If you're going to submit a bill, you have to be prepared for it to actually come up for a vote.  I love that McConnell is calling their bluff on their cynical political stunts.
Title: Re: GOP wants to put Democrats on the spot again with vote on 'Medicare for all'
Post by: LMAO on April 11, 2019, 04:39:34 pm
If you're going to submit a bill, you have to be prepared for it to actually come up for a vote.  I love that McConnell is calling their bluff on their cynical political stunts.

Like the GND, these bills are not made for public consumption but redmeat for the base.
Title: Re: GOP wants to put Democrats on the spot again with vote on 'Medicare for all'
Post by: bilo on April 11, 2019, 05:45:31 pm
These Pubs are gutless wonders.

They had the House, Senate and Presidency and couldn't even fully repeal obamacare let alone pass a comprehensive health insurance reform bill. They talk a big game, but that's about it.
Title: Re: GOP wants to put Democrats on the spot again with vote on 'Medicare for all'
Post by: Rivergirl on April 11, 2019, 06:13:40 pm
Show votes instead of serious legislation to address the replacement for O-care.
Title: Re: GOP wants to put Democrats on the spot again with vote on 'Medicare for all'
Post by: libertybele on April 11, 2019, 06:56:22 pm
I'd be in favor of a vote, assuming it pins down costs and limitations of coverage.

One thing in particular that needs to be stressed is that seniors currently have choices - basic Medicare with or without a private supplemental plan and drug plan, or Medicare advantage plans that cover everything in network with premiums that start at zero. And they can change their choice each year as their needs change. I'd love to hear their reaction to being forced into a one-size-fits-all program.

Except ... once you turn 65 it is mandatory that you get on to Medicare even if you have private insurance.  I see this as being forced into a program.
Title: Re: GOP wants to put Democrats on the spot again with vote on 'Medicare for all'
Post by: libertybele on April 11, 2019, 06:56:47 pm
These Pubs are gutless wonders.

They had the House, Senate and Presidency and couldn't even fully repeal obamacare let alone pass a comprehensive health insurance reform bill. They talk a big game, but that's about it.

 888high58888
Title: Re: GOP wants to put Democrats on the spot again with vote on 'Medicare for all'
Post by: Snarknado on April 12, 2019, 02:10:43 pm
Except ... once you turn 65 it is mandatory that you get on to Medicare even if you have private insurance.  I see this as being forced into a program.

Not to quibble, but Parts B and D are optional, and acquiring a premium-free Advantage plan takes you out of the Medicare system altogether for all practical purposes. You do of course still have to pay the Part B premiums but your coverage is entirely private insurance. Far more flexibility than any system that eliminates private insurance.
Title: Re: GOP wants to put Democrats on the spot again with vote on 'Medicare for all'
Post by: Fishrrman on April 13, 2019, 12:51:00 am
The democrat-communists don't care.
They'll just vote "present" again...
Title: Re: GOP wants to put Democrats on the spot again with vote on 'Medicare for all'
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on April 13, 2019, 10:43:17 am
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First, McConnell held a vote on the Green New Deal. Every Democratic Senator voted "present."

So the rats can now point to republicans who voted against protecting the environment, and spending more on the needy in rat territory, but the GOP can't point to any rats voting for socialism in GOP territory?  Do more of that Mitch.
Title: Re: GOP wants to put Democrats on the spot again with vote on 'Medicare for all'
Post by: Sanguine on April 13, 2019, 01:59:49 pm
So the rats can now point to republicans who voted against protecting the environment, and spending more on the needy in rat territory, but the GOP can't point to any rats voting for socialism in GOP territory?  Do more of that Mitch.

Wow.  Only you could come up with that interpretation. 
Title: Re: GOP wants to put Democrats on the spot again with vote on 'Medicare for all'
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on April 13, 2019, 09:32:09 pm
Wow.  Only you could come up with that interpretation.
Anybody can slander the messenger without countering the message, but you are exceptionally good at it. wink777
Title: Re: GOP wants to put Democrats on the spot again with vote on 'Medicare for all'
Post by: Sanguine on April 13, 2019, 10:36:26 pm
Anybody can slander the messenger without countering the message, but you are exceptionally good at it. wink777

Really? What is the slander, exactly?

Oh, nevermind. I probably won't read the answer anyway.
Title: Re: GOP wants to put Democrats on the spot again with vote on 'Medicare for all'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 13, 2019, 11:06:53 pm
Really? What is the slander, exactly?

Oh, nevermind. I probably won't read the answer anyway.

He's....

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Title: Re: GOP wants to put Democrats on the spot again with vote on 'Medicare for all'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 13, 2019, 11:08:39 pm
888high58888

McStain blew that deal, and now we have Mittens in his stead.