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Title: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: mystery-ak on September 11, 2020, 11:57:30 pm
The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
'Peace had its chance, and blew it,' reads the tagline of the article
By Joseph A. Wulfsohn | Fox News

    The Atlantic magazine raised eyebrows on Friday when it published a piece calling for the abolition of the Nobel Peace Prize after President Trump was nominated for the prestigious honor.

The president's name was submitted for the 2021 prize by Norwegian lawmaker Christian Tybring-Gjedde, who cited Trump's role in brokering a peace agreement between Israel and the United Arab Emirates (UAE). Trump has since earned a second nomination from Swedish lawmaker Magnus Jacobsson for overseeing an economic deal between Kosovo and Serbia.

The nominations, however, apparently didn't sit well with the liberal magazine, which declared Friday that "peace had its chance, and blew it."



"If Trump wins the prize, it will be the fourth Nobel awarded for peace between Israel and its neighbors," wrote Atlantic staff writer Graeme Wood. "That will make Arab-Israeli peace mediators more successful at charming the Nobel Committee than the International Committee of the Red Cross, which has won three times in the prize’s 120-year history, but still less successful than my favorite, which is no one at all.

"Giving the peace prize to no one at all is a tradition the Nobel Committee should revive, perhaps on a permanent basis," Wood added. "The record of achievement of the peace laureates is so spotty, and the rationales for their awards so eclectic, that the committee should take a long break to consider whether peace is a category coherent enough to be worth recognizing. Peace had its chance, and blew it. The Trump nomination ... helps show why."

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https://www.foxnews.com/media/the-atlantic-end-nobel-peace-prize-trump (https://www.foxnews.com/media/the-atlantic-end-nobel-peace-prize-trump)
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: libertybele on September 12, 2020, 12:01:12 am
The "Atlantic" same news source that lied about Trump dissing veterans.  They aren't just fake news, they're despicable.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: jmyrlefuller on September 12, 2020, 12:29:24 am
Any idiot can be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: mountaineer on September 12, 2020, 12:31:28 am
Such a childish reaction. The Atlantic seems intent on making a laughingstock of itself.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 12, 2020, 12:38:23 am
Wouldn't the world be better off if we just ended the Atlantic?
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 12, 2020, 12:39:13 am
Nobody I know has ever read the Atlantic anyway.

I thought it was an ocean to the east of us.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 12, 2020, 12:55:31 am
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Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11


The left are sore losers:

When Trump is nominated for a Nobel Prize, they want to end the Nobel Prize

When Trump wins the Electoral College, they want to abolish the Electoral College

When Trump appoints a new justice, they want to pack the Supreme Court

5:58 PM · Sep 11, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1304539828327940096
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: libertybele on September 12, 2020, 01:04:05 am
Nobody I know has ever read the Atlantic anyway.

I thought it was an ocean to the east of us.

 :yowsa:
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: RedHead on September 12, 2020, 09:48:34 am
Any idiot can be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.
There are hundreds of people nominated for for the Nobel Peace Prize every year.  This is the third time Trump has been nominated.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2020, 02:11:49 pm
There are hundreds of people nominated for for the Nobel Peace Prize every year.  This is the third time Trump has been nominated.

And he won't get it this time, either.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: Wingnut on September 12, 2020, 03:06:33 pm
And he won't get it this time, either.

Agreed.  The only way Trump would ever win one is if he did what Obama did to be awarded his Peace Prize.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: HoustonSam on September 12, 2020, 04:00:47 pm
Any idiot can be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

The Nobel Peace Prize became a joke long ago; no harm would befall the world if it were ended.

But the accomplishments of the Trump administration in brokering an agreement between Israel and the UAE, and another agreement between Serbia and Kosovo, are historic accomplishments worthy of serious recognition.  Combined with his administration not committing the US military to renewed foreign campaigns, these agreements give Trump a record as a true peacemaker which is unparalleled, at least during my lifetime.

So I'll be watching for The Atlantic, the "mainstream" press generally, and the democrat party to now argue that peace is a bad thing.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: GtHawk on September 12, 2020, 04:06:53 pm
Nobody I know has ever read the Atlantic anyway.

I thought it was an ocean to the east of us.
Isn't it one of those crap magazines you only find in the waiting rooms of doctors offices?
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: Bigun on September 12, 2020, 04:19:28 pm
The Nobel Peace Prize became a joke long ago; no harm would befall the world if it were ended.

But the accomplishments of the Trump administration in brokering an agreement between Israel and the UAE, and another agreement between Serbia and Kosovo, are historic accomplishments worthy of serious recognition.  Combined with his administration not committing the US military to renewed foreign campaigns, these agreements give Trump a record as a true peacemaker which is unparalleled, at least during my lifetime.

So I'll be watching for The Atlantic, the "mainstream" press generally, and the democrat party to now argue that peace is a bad thing.

No one will argue publically that peace is a bad thing but you can bet your @$$ that the entire militar/industrial complex will do everything in their power to destroy it! 

It's much more difficult to sell military hardware when peace reigns.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2020, 04:36:11 pm
The Nobel Peace Prize became a joke long ago; no harm would befall the world if it were ended.


That's right... much like British knighthood, pretenders use it for cred. Cred it lost long ago.
Neither one means anything.

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But the accomplishments of the Trump administration in brokering an agreement between Israel and the UAE, and another agreement between Serbia and Kosovo, are historic accomplishments worthy of serious recognition. 

That's right too.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 12, 2020, 08:59:39 pm
Isn't it one of those crap magazines you only find in the waiting rooms of doctors offices?
Must be. If it is not too glossy, can be used for paper needs when I am out in the forest as well.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2020, 09:22:04 pm
Something occurs to me:  Do foreign leaders make deals with a President they expect to win in November, or did they choose to wait Trump out so they can get a deal with Biteme?  Seems to me these folks are casting the only votes they have, to keep Trump. 

There is no value in striking a deal with a President they expect to be gone come January.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: 240B on September 12, 2020, 09:44:54 pm
The "Atlantic" same news source that lied about Trump dissing veterans.  They aren't just fake news, they're despicable.
The Atlantic has become more like Mad Magazine than any kind of journalism or newspaper.
Doing away with the Nobel Peace Prize is really and actually something Mad would riff on.

BTW ... many people Right and Left agree with this idea. The Nobel Prize has become so corrupted as to be worthless.
Once they gave Obama a "Peace Prize" 15 minutes after he won the election for nothing more than taking a dump and being the right color, the credibility of the award took a huge nosedive. Several of the people involved in the award resigned after that. Because it was just stupid.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: Fishrrman on September 12, 2020, 09:53:55 pm
The Atlantic:
Peace Prizes for me...
...but not for thee...!
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2020, 09:55:37 pm
The Atlantic has become more like Mad Magazine than any kind of journalism or newspaper.
Doing away with the Nobel Peace Prize is really and actually something Mad would riff on.

BTW ... many people Right and Left agree with this idea. The Nobel Prize has become so corrupted as to be worthless.
Once they gave Obama a "Peace Prize" 15 minutes after he won the election for nothing more than taking a dump and being the right color, the credibility of the award took a huge nosedive. Several of the people involved in the award resigned after that. Because it was just stupid.

The "Peace Prize" is only one of several Nobel Prizes awarded each year, and the ones in the Sciences are still very much sought after.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: DB on September 12, 2020, 10:50:27 pm
The Atlantic has become more like Mad Magazine than any kind of journalism or newspaper.
Doing away with the Nobel Peace Prize is really and actually something Mad would riff on.

BTW ... many people Right and Left agree with this idea. The Nobel Prize has become so corrupted as to be worthless.
Once they gave Obama a "Peace Prize" 15 minutes after he won the election for nothing more than taking a dump and being the right color, the credibility of the award took a huge nosedive. Several of the people involved in the award resigned after that. Because it was just stupid.

It was meaningless well before that... Arafat was also a "winner" of the prize. A well known terrorist on several fronts.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: libertybele on September 12, 2020, 10:59:43 pm
Trump gets a second nomination for Nobel Peace Prize after Serbia-Kosovo deal

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-second-nomination-for-nobel-peace-prize (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-second-nomination-for-nobel-peace-prize)
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: HoustonSam on September 12, 2020, 11:07:10 pm
Trump gets a second nomination for Nobel Peace Prize after Serbia-Kosovo deal

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-second-nomination-for-nobel-peace-prize (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-second-nomination-for-nobel-peace-prize)

"...The Atlantic calls to end Serbia, Kosovo, and deals."
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: 240B on September 13, 2020, 01:06:41 am
It was meaningless well before that... Arafat was also a "winner" of the prize. A well known terrorist on several fronts.
Yea, that was a funny one. They gave a 'joint prize' to Peres and Arafat together. They did that for two reasons. They did not want to appear to take sides by giving it to one and not the other. But most of all, they were not 'awarding peace' because there never was any peace before or after the award. They were trying to 'force' a peace. Because they thought by giving their prize the two sides would feel obligated somehow to keep the peace.

The famous 'peace deal' between Peres and Arafat lasted at most a few months if that long. Arafat thought the whole thing, the deal and the prize, was all just a big joke. He never ever had any tiny minuscule intention of ever having peaceful relations with Israel. The thing about Palestinians and Muslims in general is they do not feel bound by any truce, or contract, or agreement with Infidels. They will sign any damn thing in the world if it benefits them in the short term with no intention whatsoever of fulfilling their end of the deal.

It took Israel decades to learn this simple truth at some great costs. And Western Nations around the world still do not get it. It is difficult, not impossible but difficult, to make deals with Muslims because they as a culture have no compunctions at all of simply breaking any agreement and calling it null and void on a whim.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 13, 2020, 01:16:28 am
Nobody I know has ever read the Atlantic anyway.

I thought it was an ocean to the east of us.
It's all wet, but I don't think that was what they meant.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: NavyCanDo on September 13, 2020, 01:47:08 am
After 70 years 2, count em 2 Arab countries recognize Israel. Well deserved award.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: dancer on September 13, 2020, 06:13:52 am
Widow Jobs owns the Atlantic.  She is a major Hillary supporter.  She donated to the Biden campaign.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 13, 2020, 01:46:47 pm
After 70 years 2, count em 2 Arab countries recognize Israel. Well deserved award.

You forgot Egypt, 40 years ago.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: DB on September 13, 2020, 02:19:21 pm
You forgot Egypt, 40 years ago.

Egypt isn't normally considered an Arab country nor are its native people considered Arab.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 13, 2020, 04:01:36 pm
Egypt isn't normally considered an Arab country nor are its native people considered Arab.

I did not know that.  Aren't they in the Arab League, founded in Cairo in 1942? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_League

Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: DB on September 13, 2020, 04:27:22 pm
I did not know that.  Aren't they in the Arab League, founded in Cairo in 1942? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_League

Supposedly there is genetic proof that Arabs are genetically different that Egyptian blood lines even though they have co-mingled for a long time. A lot of Egyptians don't want to be called Arabs.
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: Hoodat on September 13, 2020, 04:31:06 pm
Nobody I know has ever read the Atlantic anyway.

I thought it was an ocean to the east of us.

I thought it was one of the yellow properties in Monopoly.

(https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/50057/1001129884/original/atlantic-avenue-photo-u1?w=650&q=50&fm=pjpg&fit=crop&crop=faces)
Title: Re: The Atlantic calls to 'end the Nobel Peace Prize' following Trump nominations
Post by: Hoodat on September 13, 2020, 04:53:58 pm
Back in 2009, Jeffrey Goldberg had suggested that Obama turn down his prize until he had an actual record.  But at no time did he suggest an end to awarding it.  Until now.