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Title: Colorado drops transgender cake case against Christian baker Jack Phillips
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on March 06, 2019, 03:05:06 am
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The Colorado Civil Rights Commission dropped its latest case against Christian cakeshop owner Jack Phillipson Tuesday, handing him a second victory against state officials who have pursued him for six years over his refusal to create cakes for certain LGBT events.

Mr. Phillips, owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood, agreed in return to withdraw his lawsuit against the state, which he filed last year to stop the commission’s “harassment” after he was hit with a complaint for declining to make a blue-and-pink cake for a transgender transition.

Kristen Waggoner, senior vice president of the Alliance Defending Freedom, called the outcome “great news for everyone.”

“This is the second time the state has launched a failed effort to prosecute him,” said Ms. Waggoner, who represents Mr. Phillips. “While it finally appears to be getting the message that its anti-religious hostility has no place in our country, the state’s decision to target Jack has cost him more than 6½ years of his life, forcing him to spend that time tied up in legal proceedings.”
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/mar/5/jack-phillips-wins-second-round-in-transgender-cak/ (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/mar/5/jack-phillips-wins-second-round-in-transgender-cak/)
Seems the discrimination of a citizen by the State of Colorado has come to an end.

Nice.
Title: Re: Colorado drops transgender cake case against Christian baker Jack Phillips
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 06, 2019, 10:04:18 am
Seems the discrimination of a citizen by the State of Colorado has come to an end.

Nice.
Unfortunately, Mr Phillips will likely never be compensated for the persecution he has received at the hands of the GLBT crowd's Nazis--well, not in this life, anyway.
Title: Re: Colorado drops transgender cake case against Christian baker Jack Phillips
Post by: goatprairie on March 06, 2019, 10:59:35 am
Conservatives still get the principle confused. They make it out to be a case of religious freedom, but that issue is secondary to the basic right of any business to make/create what they choose without being forced to make something different by a customer or the government.
If your business is making green-colored widgets and only green-colored widgets, nobody has the right to force you make them with some other color. They can like it or lump it.
Title: Re: Colorado drops transgender cake case against Christian baker Jack Phillips
Post by: verga on March 06, 2019, 11:35:05 am
Conservatives still get the principle confused. They make it out to be a case of religious freedom, but that issue is secondary to the basic right of any business to make/create what they choose without being forced to make something different by a customer or the government.
If your business is making green-colored widgets and only green-colored widgets, nobody has the right to force you make them with some other color. They can like it or lump it.
Why can't it be both equally? I oppose abortion on both a moral basis, Religious basis, and a scientific one.
Title: Re: Colorado drops transgender cake case against Christian baker Jack Phillips
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 06, 2019, 12:48:45 pm
Why can't it be both equally? I oppose abortion on both a moral basis, Religious basis, and a scientific one.
It can be all those. I oppose abortion for all three reasons as well.
Title: Re: Colorado drops transgender cake case against Christian baker Jack Phillips
Post by: goatprairie on March 06, 2019, 01:15:58 pm
Why can't it be both equally? I oppose abortion on both a moral basis, Religious basis, and a scientific one.
It can be both, but  a business owner does not need to justify or explain why he or she makes or sells what they do.
If some customer requests/demands the business owner make or sell something the business owner does not want to make or sell, it's too bad for the customer....the customer can like it or lump it.  The business can give the customer a reason, but that's not necessary either.
The customer can go somewhere else or make/create the product themselves, they cannot demand somebody make it for them.
Title: Re: Colorado drops transgender cake case against Christian baker Jack Phillips
Post by: Restored on March 06, 2019, 01:43:39 pm
A year ago: "Let's bankrupt him to punish him"
He raises millions of $$$
Today: "OK we are losing here. Never mind"
Title: Re: Colorado drops transgender cake case against Christian baker Jack Phillips
Post by: verga on March 06, 2019, 07:09:36 pm
It can be both, but  a business owner does not need to justify or explain why he or she makes or sells what they do.
If some customer requests/demands the business owner make or sell something the business owner does not want to make or sell, it's too bad for the customer....the customer can like it or lump it.  The business can give the customer a reason, but that's not necessary either.
The customer can go somewhere else or make/create the product themselves, they cannot demand somebody make it for them.
Exactly we are in complete agreement.
Title: Re: Colorado drops transgender cake case against Christian baker Jack Phillips
Post by: Free Vulcan on March 06, 2019, 07:11:36 pm
Not only did he have the money to fight them, I think they knew there was a good chance they'd lose.
Title: Re: Colorado drops transgender cake case against Christian baker Jack Phillips
Post by: goatprairie on March 06, 2019, 10:55:50 pm
Not only did he have the money to fight them, I think they knew there was a good chance they'd lose.
Think of that would me if the fascists had won. Any business would be forced by men with guns to make whatever any customer demanded.
This is a victory for any business that wants to run their business they way they want.
That would include businesses/bakeries owned by satanists who only bake cakes/whatever for satanic weddings/ceremonies. No Christian should be able to force the satanic bakers to bake a Christian themed cake.
Title: Re: Colorado drops transgender cake case against Christian baker Jack Phillips
Post by: Bigun on March 06, 2019, 11:01:36 pm
Unfortunately, Mr Phillips will likely never be compensated for the persecution he has received at the hands of the GLBT crowd's Nazis--well, not in this life, anyway.

And that is truly a sad state of affairs.
Title: Re: Colorado drops transgender cake case against Christian baker Jack Phillips
Post by: Fishrrman on March 07, 2019, 01:19:58 am
Title:
"Colorado drops transgender cake case against Christian baker Jack Phillips"

The reason:
He was going to win a SECOND Supreme Court victory, which would bury this "issue" once and for all.
Title: Re: Colorado drops transgender cake case against Christian baker Jack Phillips
Post by: rangerrebew on March 08, 2019, 02:35:10 pm
Case dropped against Christian baker

Jazz ShawPosted at 10:41 am on March 6, 2019

The latest liberal attack against Masterpiece Cakeshop owner Jack Phillips has come to an abrupt end. The Colorado Civil Rights Commission dropped a lawsuit against Phillips, leading the baker to drop his own countersuit against the state. While this may appear to be a victory for Phillips, I somehow doubt this is the last we’ll hear of such challenges. (Washington Times)

    The Colorado Civil Rights Commission on Tuesday dropped its latest case against Christian cakeshop owner Jack Phillips, handing him a second victory against state officials over his refusal to create cakes for certain LGBT events.

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/03/06/case-dropped-christian-baker/
Title: Re: Colorado drops transgender cake case against Christian baker Jack Phillips
Post by: rangerrebew on March 08, 2019, 02:37:14 pm
This man's defense of his Christian beliefs is strong than that of the Pope who, when confronted by the evil in the middle east, decides to compromise his principles and unite with Islam. :wtf:
Title: Re: Colorado drops transgender cake case against Christian baker Jack Phillips
Post by: Mod1 on March 08, 2019, 02:38:08 pm
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