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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Right_in_Virginia on May 24, 2019, 03:30:16 am

Title: U.S. judge questions House lawsuit to stop Trump border wall construction
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 24, 2019, 03:30:16 am
U.S. judge questions House lawsuit to stop Trump border wall construction
Washington Post, May 23, 2019

A U.S. judge on Thursday sharply challenged a House lawsuit to block construction of President Trump’s border wall after a senior Justice Department attorney said Congress cannot sue to enforce its constitutional power of the purse and that courts should stay out of political disputes between branches of government.

The Democratic-led House filed suit in Washington on April 5 to prevent work after Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) accused the administration of “stealing from appropriated funds” by seeking to transfer $6.7 billion more for the effort than the $1.375 billion Congress approved, a shift of money from other projects lawmakers authorized.

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But over nearly three hours of arguments, U.S. District Judge Trevor N. McFadden of the District said there were few cases to guide how courts should rule on a major test of the constitutional separation of powers, and pressed House general counsel Douglas Letter to point to historical precedent allowing one chamber of Congress to sue the president to settle political differences.

Whether the House has legal standing to sue is “problematic” and a “significant issue in this case,” said McFadden, citing the bedrock legal requirement that a party prove it is being harmed and show that only a court can address it. “Courts are not there to adjudicate just interesting constitutional or political questions between the branches,” he added later.


More:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/us-judge-hears-house-lawsuit-to-stop-trump-border-wall-construction/2019/05/23/234cfa4c-7caa-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.cb6de1ea1ce9 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/us-judge-hears-house-lawsuit-to-stop-trump-border-wall-construction/2019/05/23/234cfa4c-7caa-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.cb6de1ea1ce9)

Title: Re: U.S. judge questions House lawsuit to stop Trump border wall construction
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 24, 2019, 03:32:09 am
“Judge of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia
 Incumbent
 Assumed office
 October 31, 2017
 Appointed by Donald Trump”
Title: Re: U.S. judge questions House lawsuit to stop Trump border wall construction
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 24, 2019, 02:43:28 pm
“Judge of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia
 Incumbent
 Assumed office
 October 31, 2017
 Appointed by Donald Trump”


Could be a win, but isn't since any border city can opt out of the "wall".
Title: Re: U.S. judge questions House lawsuit to stop Trump border wall construction
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 24, 2019, 02:50:09 pm
A U.S. judge on Thursday sharply challenged a House lawsuit to block construction of President Trump’s border wall after a senior Justice Department attorney said Congress cannot sue to enforce its constitutional power of the purse and that courts should stay out of political disputes between branches of government.
The Justice Department say all kinds of crazy crap.  They're now a publicity extension of the Administration.
Title: Re: U.S. judge questions House lawsuit to stop Trump border wall construction
Post by: libertybele on May 25, 2019, 02:39:23 am

Could be a win, but isn't since any border city can opt out of the "wall".

This is true, but on the other hand, there is a lame brain liberal a**hole judge, blocking the construction of the wall.  9999hair out0000

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-temporarily-blocks-trumps-border-wall-construction-plans (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-temporarily-blocks-trumps-border-wall-construction-plans)

Title: Re: U.S. judge questions House lawsuit to stop Trump border wall construction
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 25, 2019, 05:36:20 am
Some people on here...want to blame president for what is going on at the border.  SO BACKWARDS.. ALL ON DEMON-RATS.

Title: Re: U.S. judge questions House lawsuit to stop Trump border wall construction
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 25, 2019, 02:43:36 pm
Some people on here...want to blame president for what is going on at the border.  SO BACKWARDS.. ALL ON DEMON-RATS.

Tough to argue with @LegalAmerican    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: U.S. judge questions House lawsuit to stop Trump border wall construction
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 25, 2019, 02:59:10 pm
The Justice Department say all kinds of crazy crap.  They're now a publicity extension of the Administration.

Not even close.    According to the judge:

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Whether the House has legal standing to sue is “problematic” and a “significant issue in this case,” said McFadden, citing the bedrock legal requirement that a party prove it is being harmed and show that only a court can address it. “Courts are not there to adjudicate just interesting constitutional or political questions between the branches,” he added later.

The issue is simple. Congress -- meaning both houses acting together -- can legislatively block the transfer of funds. Unless and until this occurs, the President may reallocate funds to build the wall under the provisions of the emergency declaration.

In this instance, there has been no action by Congress.   Further, since the House acting alone cannot change the law, the House lacks the standing to appear in court and speak as if it has the authority of the entire Congress.

"Problematic" indeed.
Title: Re: U.S. judge questions House lawsuit to stop Trump border wall construction
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 25, 2019, 09:26:58 pm
In this instance, there has been no action by Congress.   Further, since the House acting alone cannot change the law, the House lacks the standing to appear in court and speak as if it has the authority of the entire Congress.

"Problematic" indeed.

Leftist Judges have been handing out standing like candy to the Rats.