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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: mystery-ak on June 28, 2020, 02:30:13 pm
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Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
By Kyle Balluck - 06/28/20 07:43 AM EDT
President Trump early Sunday denied that he had been briefed on reported Russian bounties placed on U.S. troops in Afghanistan and called for The New York Times to identify its source.
"Nobody briefed or told me, @VP Pence, or Chief of Staff @MarkMeadows about the so-called attacks on our troops in Afghanistan by Russians, as reported through an 'anonymous source' by the Fake News @nytimes," Trump tweeted.
"Everybody is denying it & there have not been many attacks on us. Nobody’s been tougher on Russia than the Trump Administration. With Corrupt Joe Biden & Obama, Russia had a field day, taking over important parts of Ukraine - Where’s Hunter? Probably just another phony Times hit job, just like their failed Russia Hoax. Who is their 'source'?" he added.
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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/504890-trump-denies-he-was-briefed-on-reported-bounties-on-us-troops
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Top GOP lawmaker calls for answers from White House after report on Russian bounties on US forces
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/504899-top-gop-lawmaker-calls-for-answers-from-white-house-after-report-on
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Pelosi on reported bounties on US troops: 'I don't know what the Russians have on the president'
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/504904-pelosi-on-reported-us-troop-bounties-i-dont-know-what-the-russians
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Spy chief Ratcliffe says Trump never briefed on Russia offering Taliban bounties
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/spy-chief-ratcliffe-says-trump-never-briefed-on-russia-offering-taliban-bounties (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/spy-chief-ratcliffe-says-trump-never-briefed-on-russia-offering-taliban-bounties)
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Richard Grenell
@RichardGrenell
I never heard this. And it’s disgusting how you continue to politicize intelligence. You clearly don’t understand how raw intel gets verified. Leaks of partial information to reporters from anonymous sources is dangerous because people like you manipulate it for political gain.
Ted Lieu
@tedlieu
US House candidate, CA-33
Dear @RichardGrenell: Did you really not tell @realDonaldTrump and @VP Pence that Russia was paying militants to kill US troops?
Or is @PressSec lying? twitter.com/JoshNBCNews/st…
7:44 PM · Jun 27, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1277024942232530945
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Richard Grenell
@RichardGrenell
You are basing a whole bunch of assumptions on an anonymous source from the NYT.
Josh Lederman @JoshNBCNews
This raises the obvious and very serious question: The US had intelligence that Russia was paying militants to kill US & allied troops, and officials decided NOT to tell the president or VP about it?
7:52 PM · Jun 27, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1277027157730942977
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Spy chief Ratcliffe says Trump never briefed on Russia offering Taliban bounties
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/spy-chief-ratcliffe-says-trump-never-briefed-on-russia-offering-taliban-bounties (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/spy-chief-ratcliffe-says-trump-never-briefed-on-russia-offering-taliban-bounties)
When has truth mattered to US socialists?
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The New York Times stopped reporting real news about the time they announced in 2017 that truth didn’t matter as long as the lie was used in service of ousting President Trump.
Trump was right to brand the media as fake news and that they were in fact enemies of the American people.
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The whole world is having a good laugh at America being taken over from within by communists. Why would Putin or any of our enemies interrupt the self destruction.
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So what is next? We just let a media outlet publish something the President says is false and forget about it? Especially a sensitive foreign policy matter like this?
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So what is next? We just let a media outlet publish something the President says is false and forget about it? Especially a sensitive foreign policy matter like this?
First Amendment.
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First Amendment.
If the left applied the same conditions to the First as they want to apply to the second.....
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If the left applied the same conditions to the First as they want to apply to the second.....
Hell, they don't follow any of it all, so what's new?
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So what is next? We just let a media outlet publish something the President says is false and forget about it? Especially a sensitive foreign policy matter like this?
I guess we’ll have to see where the story ends up. And I think it’s time to get out of Afghanistan
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I guess we’ll have to see where the story ends up. And I think it’s time to get out of Afghanistan
Agreed on both counts..
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I guess we’ll have to see where the story ends up. And I think it’s time to get out of Afghanistan
I felt that way from just after the start. I just wanted to go in, exact some punishment for 9/11, and dump them. The first and worst broken Bush promise was "We won't be nation-building." Here we are, pushing 20 years later and we're STILL there trying to build a nation that doesn't want to be built.
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I felt that way from just after the start. I just wanted to go in, exact some punishment for 9/11, and dump them. The first and worst broken Bush promise was "We won't be nation-building." Here we are, pushing 20 years later and we're STILL there trying to build a nation that doesn't want to be built.
Eisenhower was absolutely right. To think I spent decades refusing to believe it was true.
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First Amendment.
No, I am not going to accept neither Trump or the New York Times hiding behind the First Amendment. The people deserve to know what happened.
There are limits on the First Amendment.
Are There Limits to Freedom of the Press in the U.S.?
Freedom of the press is established in the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, which states that "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press." Although the text of the amendment only specifically prohibits infringement by Congress, the Supreme Court has broadened the scope of the First Amendment to protect the freedoms of speech and press from censorship by any government entity, from the federal government down to the local police.
However, the Supreme Court has also recognized specific situations in which the government is allowed to limit the freedom of the press.
There are legal limits, for example, to how much protection a reporter can provide a confidential source. Reporters often rely on confidential sources for inside information that exposes government or corporate corruption. But if the source violate a federal law in leaking the information to the press, the reporter can be subpoenaed and required to name names, as established by the Supreme Court's 5-4 decision in Branzburg v. Hayes (1972) [source: Smolkin].
In 2005, New York Times reporter Judith Miller served 85 days in jail for contempt of court when she refused to name the source who leaked the identity of undercover CIA agent Valerie Plame [source: Miller]. The following year, two reporters for the San Francisco Chronicle also served jail time for refusing to name the source who leaked closed grand jury testimonies from the Barry Bonds perjury case [source: SFGate.com].
Defamation is also prohibited by law in specific cases. Defamation is the injury of an individual's reputation either by written or spoken word.
Defamation by the press is called libel. In the landmark 1964 case New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, the court ruled that the press is not guilty of libel against public figures unless the injured party can prove actual malice — knowingly and recklessly publishing false information — rather than mere reckless reporting. The ruling lifted restrictions on the press that had prevented it from reporting fully on the civil rights movement in the South.
However, the Court ruled in later decisions that the press can still be found guilty of libel in defamation cases involving private citizens and private matters without proof of actual malice [source: Legal Information Institute]…..
https://people.howstuffworks.com/freedom-of-the-press.htm
Someone is lying. The citizens of America have the right to know. The relatives of fallen soldiers surely have a right to know. A media cannot do this and I am sure they are aware of legal repercussion's to this magnitude of lying. The New York Times mentioned sources and a Court can force them to disclose.
We will see. Because if Trump excuses this without a fight I am going to make a mental determination of where the guilt is.
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The whole world is having a good laugh at America being taken over from within by communists. Why would Putin or any of our enemies interrupt the self destruction.
Well, I'm not so sure about that, some realize that if America falls, so does most of the world and then it's a free fall to see who will be left to dominate what's left of the world.
Who has the most to profit though if America falls? The Chinese. I am convinced that they inflicted this virus on the rest of the world in order to become the dominant country with the dominant currency with Biden's and Fauci's assistance for which they will be are have been paid handsomely.
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When has truth mattered to US socialists?
When has the MSM reported the truth that would favor Trump?
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Well, I'm not so sure about that, some realize that if America falls, so does most of the world and then it's a free fall to see who will be left to dominate what's left of the world.
Who has the most to profit though if America falls? The Chinese. I am convinced that they inflicted this virus on the rest of the world in order to become the dominant country with the dominant currency with Biden's and Fauci's assistance for which they will be are have been paid handsomely.
Are you sure you are in the right thread. This isn't about the virus, China or Fauci. But Trump stood quietly by while Fauci spewed his rhetoric that got the entire nation shut down.
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We will see. Because if Trump excuses this without a fight I am going to make a mental determination of where the guilt is.
Does that mean he might lose your vote? yogi555
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No, I am not going to accept neither Trump or the New York Times hiding behind the First Amendment. The people deserve to know what happened.
There are limits on the First Amendment.
Are There Limits to Freedom of the Press in the U.S.?
Freedom of the press is established in the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, which states that "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press." Although the text of the amendment only specifically prohibits infringement by Congress, the Supreme Court has broadened the scope of the First Amendment to protect the freedoms of speech and press from censorship by any government entity, from the federal government down to the local police.
However, the Supreme Court has also recognized specific situations in which the government is allowed to limit the freedom of the press.
There are legal limits, for example, to how much protection a reporter can provide a confidential source. Reporters often rely on confidential sources for inside information that exposes government or corporate corruption. But if the source violate a federal law in leaking the information to the press, the reporter can be subpoenaed and required to name names, as established by the Supreme Court's 5-4 decision in Branzburg v. Hayes (1972) [source: Smolkin].
In 2005, New York Times reporter Judith Miller served 85 days in jail for contempt of court when she refused to name the source who leaked the identity of undercover CIA agent Valerie Plame [source: Miller]. The following year, two reporters for the San Francisco Chronicle also served jail time for refusing to name the source who leaked closed grand jury testimonies from the Barry Bonds perjury case [source: SFGate.com].
Defamation is also prohibited by law in specific cases. Defamation is the injury of an individual's reputation either by written or spoken word.
Defamation by the press is called libel. In the landmark 1964 case New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, the court ruled that the press is not guilty of libel against public figures unless the injured party can prove actual malice — knowingly and recklessly publishing false information — rather than mere reckless reporting. The ruling lifted restrictions on the press that had prevented it from reporting fully on the civil rights movement in the South.
However, the Court ruled in later decisions that the press can still be found guilty of libel in defamation cases involving private citizens and private matters without proof of actual malice [source: Legal Information Institute]…..
https://people.howstuffworks.com/freedom-of-the-press.htm
Someone is lying. The citizens of America have the right to know. The relatives of fallen soldiers surely have a right to know. A media cannot do this and I am sure they are aware of legal repercussion's to this magnitude of lying. The New York Times mentioned sources and a Court can force them to disclose.
We will see. Because if Trump excuses this without a fight I am going to make a mental determination of where the guilt is.
??? Trump has been fighting the "fake news"/MSM since he took office.
Of course someone is lying. Look how long the accusations of Russian collusion went on, only to find at the end of the day, that there was no Trump collusion.
Legal repercussions to this magnitude of lying?? What about the magnitude of lying that has been going on with Russian collusion, impeachment, Burisma, etc...
Do you think just maybe that once again the left is trying to take Trump down? They will stop at nothing to take him out. Nothing.
Trump and administration could be absolutely guilty; but the leftists have cried wolf once too often and the globalist are succeeding at toppling our Republic.
As I'm thinking about all of what's been happening, I can't help but notice that Hillary has been very silent through all of this. Obama has been outspoken, but she has remained very quiet. Interesting.
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??? Trump has been fighting the "fake news"/MSM since he took office.
Of course someone is lying. Look how long the accusations of Russian collusion went on, only to find at the end of the day, that there was no Trump collusion.
Legal repercussions to this magnitude of lying?? What about the magnitude of lying that has been going on with Russian collusion, impeachment, Burisma, etc...
Do you think just maybe that once again the left is trying to take Trump down? They will stop at nothing to take him out. Nothing.
Trump and administration could be absolutely guilty; but the leftists have cried wolf once too often and the globalist are succeeding at toppling our Republic.
As I'm thinking about all of what's been happening, I can't help but notice that Hillary has been very silent through all of this. Obama has been outspoken, but she has remained very quiet. Interesting.
Never thought I'd see the day when Anti-Trumpers would complain that Trump is not defending himself enough. I'm tellin' ya, the world's turned upside down!
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Never thought I'd see the day when Anti-Trumpers would complain that Trump is not defending himself enough. I'm tellin' ya, the world's turned upside down!
Its not like that. This isn't about Trump. Its about Russia paying Taliban to kill our troops. If he doesn't defend himself it shouts liar. This is harmful in every way. To the presidents image and the upcoming election. To families of soldiers in Afghanistan or had been. And most importantly the families of those who lost their lives there. Trump has never been shy about suing anyone. If they lied he has an army of lawyers. Constitutional, personal at his service. To avoid this would be admitting guilt.
Trump would have to be lacking in reality to believe that people were just going to accept that he says he didn't get any briefing. Some will because that is how they are. Without question. But we aren't all gullible.
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Never thought I'd see the day when Anti-Trumpers would complain that Trump is not defending himself enough. I'm tellin' ya, the world's turned upside down!
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Does that mean he might lose your vote? yogi555
That boats left port a long time ago. Makes no difference. I don't like the New York Times, and I don't like Trump. I just think American's have a right to know. And certainly it would be another dark stain on American History if it was true.
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Are you sure you are in the right thread. This isn't about the virus, China or Fauci. But Trump stood quietly by while Fauci spewed his rhetoric that got the entire nation shut down.
*****rollingeyes*****
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So this imagined Trump-Shattering Kaboom is fauxny. I'll admit thinking it plausible that the Russians would do this. This is not the first fauxy leaked-intelligence failed Trump-Shattering Kaboom this year. There was the claim that Trump had been briefed about the coronavirus back in November, 2019 but did nothing. That also was fauxny:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/dni-cnn-coronavirus-report-inaccurate-information (https://www.foxnews.com/media/dni-cnn-coronavirus-report-inaccurate-information)
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/08/politics/intel-agencies-covid-november/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/08/politics/intel-agencies-covid-november/index.html)
And as can be seen from my China coronavirus timeline linked below, it is also anachronistic. China didn't know in November, 2019 that there was an outbreak in Wuhan. It wasn't until around mid December that there were enough cases of people with similar symptoms for doctors in Wuhan to recognize there was a pattern.
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If I'm understanding the update toward the bottom of this blogpost, https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2020/06/28/trump-never-briefed-russia-placing-bounties-troops-afghan-jihadis/ , it looks like the intel might be real (not necessarily correct or incorrect), but some intelligence person at the WH either did not include it in the PDB or withheld it. Whether a major F-up or an intentional deception, at least one head should be rolling out the WH door toward Lafayette Park!
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If I'm understanding the update toward the bottom of this blogpost, https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2020/06/28/trump-never-briefed-russia-placing-bounties-troops-afghan-jihadis/ , it looks like the intel might be real (not necessarily correct or incorrect), but some intelligence person at the WH either did not include it in the PDB or withheld it. Whether a major F-up or an intentional deception, at least one head should be rolling out the WH door toward Lafayette Park!
Who would get that intel? Senate intelligence committee? His chief advisor? Chief of staff?
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So what is next? We just let a media outlet publish something the President says is false and forget about it? Especially a sensitive foreign policy matter like this?
You are right. The GOP Senators should call up the NYT and demand their source. Not only is the accusation that the administration is doing nothing over the issue, or that the issue exists important, such things would likely be at some classified level, and the source of the leak should be identified as well.
But, as in all things, The POTUS has a right to face his accuser. Produce the source. Put up or shut up.
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If I'm understanding the update toward the bottom of this blogpost, https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2020/06/28/trump-never-briefed-russia-placing-bounties-troops-afghan-jihadis/ , it looks like the intel might be real (not necessarily correct or incorrect), but some intelligence person at the WH either did not include it in the PDB or withheld it. Whether a major F-up or an intentional deception, at least one head should be rolling out the WH door toward Lafayette Park!
If someone is leaking intel to the NYT before briefing the POTUS, they should be wearing an orange jumpsuit, at least until they figure out the chain of command.
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Trump now say's:
Trump: Intelligence agencies found bounty claims not credible, didn't brief him
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/28/trump-says-intel-found-russia-bounty-claims-not-cr/ (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/28/trump-says-intel-found-russia-bounty-claims-not-cr/)
UK said it was.
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Trump now say's:
Trump: Intelligence agencies found bounty claims not credible, didn't brief him
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/28/trump-says-intel-found-russia-bounty-claims-not-cr/ (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/28/trump-says-intel-found-russia-bounty-claims-not-cr/)
UK said it was.
wow this could be/should be Worse than Benghazi if true.
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wow this could be/should be Worse than Benghazi if true.
If it’s true and we do find out the president was aware of it, I just can’t think of any way even his most ardent supporters can defend it
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Catherine Herridge
@CBS_Herridge
DEVELOPING: A senior intel official tells @CBSNews the GRU/Taliban bounty allegations were not contained in the President's Daily Brief (PDB) which is the highly classified, daily summary of national security issues delivered to the President, key cabinet secretaries + advisers..
The official confirmed the NSC has been doing “due diligence,†and going back through their files since the story broke Friday, and they have not found the “intelligence assessment†described in media reporting. The official said the review is ongoing, but given current...
talks with the Taliban, intel about a GRU operation involving the Taliban, targeting US forces would have risen to the level of inclusion in the PDB. @CBSNews
3:56 PM · Jun 28, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1277329946541805569
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Intel just reported to me that they did not find this info credible, and therefore did not report it to me or @VP. Possibly another fabricated Russia Hoax, maybe by the Fake News @nytimesbooks, wanting to make Republicans look bad!!!
Lindsey Graham
@LindseyGrahamSC
US Senate candidate, SC
Imperative Congress get to the bottom of recent media reports that Russian GRU units in Afghanistan have offered to pay the Taliban to kill American soldiers with the goal of pushing America out of the region.
10:40 PM · Jun 28, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1277431695248183298
Get on it Lindsey .... first up are Charlie Savage, Eric Schmitt and Michael Schwirtz to name their sources. If they don't, throw their asses in jail until they do. This is national security and soldiers' lives they're effing with.
And drag Esper's sorry ass in, too.
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Who would get that intel? Senate intelligence committee? His chief advisor? Chief of staff?
My guess would be either/both the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff --- both sitting members of the NSC.
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If it’s true and we do find out the president was aware of it, I just can’t think of any way even his most ardent supporters can defend it
Yeah. He should have nuked Moscow.
What would you have proposed he do?
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Scott Adams
@ScottAdamsSays
Is it my imagination or is Great Britain running a Russia/bullshit intelligence operation against Trump for the second time?
3:15 PM · Jun 28, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1277319755519623168
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the intelligence report came out months ago, this wasn’t leaked by the UK. stupid tweet.
Deflecting as usual from incompetence from this administration. Uk took the intelligence serious, seems like the US took it less due to diplomatic relations.
Trumps comments about “not many soldier have died†says it all. HUGE deflection from the administration.
And such a weird tweet considering Boris loves trump.
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Yeah, the origins of the Steele Dossier were not lost on me, either.
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Yeah. He should have nuked Moscow.
What would you have proposed he do?
@Smokin Joe
I guess I’m not really proposing anything except maybe it’s time to get out of Afghanistan. And I do get and understand your point.
There is election year optics.
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@Smokin Joe
I guess I’m not really proposing anything except maybe it’s time to get out of Afghanistan. And I do get and understand your point.
There is election year optics.
That's all this is. Again, trying to spall off supporters.
If this is going on now, the GRU has been doing it all along. It might, assuming payments exist, not even be a bounty so much as funding based on demonstration of military effectiveness. Doubtless, every group has its grifters.
Afghanistan will continue to be a land of tremendous resources, held back by internal conflict, with or without us.
According to what we have been told, we got Bin Laden (a Saudi) in Pakistan, so the main objective has been achieved. Playing globocop or nation building isn't in the Constitution. If there is a threat there, eliminate it and bring our guys home.
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If it’s true and we do find out the president was aware of it, I just can’t think of any way even his most ardent supporters can defend it
Sir, you underestimate the dexterity of the NeverWrongers.
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Anonymous sources. Anything concrete? I don't trust the media.
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If it’s true and we do find out the president was aware of it, I just can’t think of any way even his most ardent supporters can defend it
If hard to imagine how any fair minded person would unwittingly fall for yet another one of these political scams.
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Sir, you underestimate the dexterity of the NeverWrongers.
This will be the third or fourth time I have asked this question on this thread, but here goes, once again.
We are already in a war there.
We are not at war with Russia (Well, not directly, exactly)
What would you have the POTUS do, even assuming the information about GRU offering bounties on US Soldiers is correct?
What action is called for?
A strongly worded letter?
Unfriending on bookface?
Drone strikes on the Kremlin?
A full on strategic nuclear response?
Round up our Democrats and protesters and send them over there?
I mean, exactly what level of punishment would you recommend?
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Sir, you underestimate the dexterity of the NeverWrongers.
It appears we're back in 6 dimensional chess mode. WTH was he doing retweeting that video from the old white dude?
Is there anyone in the country that will tell Trump when he's screwing the pooch? He's so enamored with himself, and it gets worse on a nearly every day basis.
This election is the binariest of binary elections...yeah, I know "binariest" isn't a real word.
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Why are we going on the words of the NY Times again?
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This will be the third or fourth time I have asked this question on this thread, but here goes, once again.
We are already in a war there.
We are not at war with Russia (Well, not directly, exactly)
What would you have the POTUS do, even assuming the information about GRU offering bounties on US Soldiers is correct?
What action is called for?
A strongly worded letter?
Unfriending on bookface?
Drone strikes on the Kremlin?
A full on strategic nuclear response?
Round up our Democrats and protesters and send them over there?
I mean, exactly what level of punishment would you recommend?
How about if Trump loses his mancrush on Putin? He could follow that with targeted trade sanctions against Russia.
Hell, I'm just spitballing here.
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Why are we arguing about something we don't even know happened again?
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It's certainly plausible to me that Putin's GRU would be putting bounties on American Serviceman in Afghanistan, did we not pay the Northern Alliance to kill Russians there in the 80's?
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Round up our Democrats and protesters and send them over there?
This might be an option worth considering
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Doh!
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,406826.msg2239506/topicseen.html#msg2239506 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,406826.msg2239506/topicseen.html#msg2239506)
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This will be the third or fourth time I have asked this question on this thread, but here goes, once again.
We are already in a war there.
We are not at war with Russia (Well, not directly, exactly)
What would you have the POTUS do, even assuming the information about GRU offering bounties on US Soldiers is correct?
What action is called for?
A strongly worded letter?
Unfriending on bookface?
Drone strikes on the Kremlin?
A full on strategic nuclear response?
Round up our Democrats and protesters and send them over there?
I mean, exactly what level of punishment would you recommend?
@Smokin Joe I am just a smacked rump on a message board. I don't know the range of options available to the Commander-in-Chief.
But if I wouldn't have an attitude of effete, flip resignation if Obama did nothing, why should I have different standards for Trump?
I tell you what I wouldn't do.
Advocate, inexplicably, for Russia to be re-admitted into the G-7.
Offer them respirators to protect their citizens.
Take this moment to reduce troops in Germany.
I am fascinated why people don't have an issue with a sitting POTUS bending over and "presenting for Putin." An ex-KGB common thug who leads a regional power. That Helsinki abomination was a shock to the system. Trump doesn't defer to a single soul on this planet, except Putin. Why?
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Yeah. He should have nuked Moscow.
What would you have proposed he do?
Ain't it funny... how it's always the anti-Trumpers that make statements like that. Always sooo willing to believe that Trump is lying about yet another example of the excrement being thrown on the wall by the left ... hoping enough of it sticks ...just enough for him to lose the election.
Just more ssdd BS from the usual suspects, IMO.
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How about if Trump loses his mancrush on Putin? He could follow that with targeted trade sanctions against Russia.
Hell, I'm just spitballing here.
Man crush!? Do your homework. Trump’s foreign policy has been tough on Russia together with appropriate inducements for cooperation where it benefits the United States.
But perhaps Trump will have more flexibility after the election /s
For you people who don’t care much for Trump but have declared you will vote for him, I have a question for you. When will you get tired of having your emotions yanked around by yet another anonymous NYT story and Nancy Pelosi and the democrats and republican NeverTrumpers playing politics with it?
Your only reaction after one of these phony attacks should be to say NO SALE—instead of running around wringing your hands repeating “But, if true, if true, if true...â€
It’s a phony scandal, yet again. Buck up, we have an election to win in 129 days or the Marxists win.
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Man crush!? Do your homework. Trump’s foreign policy has been tough on Russia together with appropriate inducements for cooperation where it benefits the United States.
But perhaps Trump will have more flexibility after the election /s
For you people who don’t care much for Trump but have declared you will vote for him, I have a question for you. When will you get tired of having your emotions yanked around by yet another anonymous NYT story and Nancy Pelosi and the democrats and republican NeverTrumpers playing politics with it?
Your only reaction after one of these phony attacks should be to say NO SALE—instead of running around wringing your hands repeating “But, if true, if true, if true...â€
It’s a phony scandal, yet again. Buck up, we have an election to win in 129 days or the Marxists win.
Seriously? The first thing I do when I see something that smells like a hit piece is to check and see where it came from. WaPo and NYT both reek of swamp mud and BS. The burden of proof ever lies with the accuser, and "sources say" isn't enough. For all I know, they push polled some junkie on the steps.
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This was fake news from the get-go.
Why are folks still even bothering with it?
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This was fake news from the get-go.
Why are folks still even bothering with it?
Well obviously.... because...
Orange Man Bad!!!
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Well obviously.... because...
Orange Man Bad!!!
I see they’re suddenly disinterested tonight.
You’d think they’d want to express relief that their president is innocent on this one.
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Well obviously.... because...
Orange Man Bad!!!
Impeach Him Again! Harder!!!®
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Impeach Him Again! Harder!!!®
Not to worry. They will!!!
I just want to see their ugly faces tear up on the night of November 3....when Trump is re-elected. I really "need" that schadenfreude. In fact, I could use it right now... but nah...I'll wait. Anticipation (as the song goes). happy77
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I see they’re suddenly disinterested tonight.
You’d think they’d want to express relief that their president is innocent on this one.
They've probably already pivoted to the 'next' BS fake/phony story.
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How about if Trump loses his mancrush on Putin? He could follow that with targeted trade sanctions against Russia.
Hell, I'm just spitballing here.
Based on comments on TBR tonight you would have thought that this has all been proven false. And no further explanation necessary. Not so.
Just getting started.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-republicans-squeeze-trump-over-russian-bounties/ar-BB167MHH?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-republicans-squeeze-trump-over-russian-bounties/ar-BB167MHH?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds)
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Based on comments on TBR tonight you would have thought that this has all been proven false. And no further explanation necessary. Not so.
Just getting started.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-republicans-squeeze-trump-over-russian-bounties/ar-BB167MHH?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-republicans-squeeze-trump-over-russian-bounties/ar-BB167MHH?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds)
Rubio nailed it (for once) --
“It is important to be cautious on intelligence writ large, because when it’s proven to not be accurate, it can lead to things like a war or other measures that proved to be counterproductive,†Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), the acting chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, told reporters. “You pull out one little piece and you put it in the public domain and you act like it was some smoking gun situation. So that’s one of the reasons I just don’t comment on reports such as these.â€
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Flynn had a routine phone conversation with Kislyak, and Trump called President Zelensky to urge sharing of intelligence—a “perfect†call. Yet, democrats tried to destroy them.
They will stop at nothing these democrats, including using dead soldiers as props to attack Trump, the Commander in Chief, using a security briefing as their hook. Again, they will not succeed. But these truly are very evil and dangerous people and must be defeated in November.
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Bottom line... if there was a "bounty" on US soldiers in Afghanistan.... it sure as hell must not be much or enough $$$... since there have only been eight friggin US military deaths so far there. Last year only 24. Just more fake bullsquat from the lying idiot left and their stuckonstupid minions.
http://www.icasualties.org/ (http://www.icasualties.org/)
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I like her dress!
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Bottom line... if there was a "bounty" on US soldiers in Afghanistan.... it sure as hell must not be much or enough $$$... since there have only been eight friggin US military deaths so far there. Last year only 24. Just more fake bullsquat from the lying idiot left and their stuckonstupid minions.
http://www.icasualties.org/ (http://www.icasualties.org/)
Unbelievable. Why don't you send a greeting card to Putin thanking him.
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Unbelievable. Why don't you send a greeting card to Putin thanking him.
You sure are (unbelievable). Why don't you kiss my @ss.
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You sure are (unbelievable). Why don't you kiss my @ss.
Bless you
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Unbelievable. Why don't you send a greeting card to Putin thanking him.
@Axeslinger
@Cyber Liberty
GD troll b*tch.
And you get up on the soapbox calling ME a pox on the forum.
As @XenaLee so eloquently said up thread: KMA.
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For the Fourth time, now, with feeling.
JUST WHAT IS TRUMP SUPPOSED TO DO ABOUT THIS, EVEN IF IT WAS HAPPENING?
I await a rational reply.
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@Axeslinger
@Cyber Liberty
GD troll b*tch.
And you get up on the soapbox calling ME a pox on the forum.
As @XenaLee so eloquently said up thread: KMA.
Listen, I also think @Chosen Daughter was out of line. The KMA reply handled it... But looking at your posting record, you rarely post this late and we know @Cyber Liberty also goes to be bed usually before this time.
It is almost like you timed your reply (which is even more out of line that CD) to last the longest without being pulled. A troll tactic if actually planed that way. Just my observation.
Yeah yeah, I know, I can kiss you butt.... Go to bed folks and come out feeling better tomorrow. I know I am (maybe, would be nice to actually get a decent hour of sleep again).
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You sure are (unbelievable). Why don't you kiss my @ss.
@XenaLee
You know I have only been on the forum for four years but I never considered using the ignore feature until recently when I just could not take a certain posters blatant bias and irrational posting anymore without my blood pressure spiking. It's only been a day but it is actually blissful since I no longer see her ranting and raving. And it's so easy to pass by the lunacy that gets through when others quote her diatribes. Yup a good old Meidung on my part was over due.
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Pelosi on reported bounties on US troops: 'I don't know what the Russians have on the president'
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/504904-pelosi-on-reported-us-troop-bounties-i-dont-know-what-the-russians
Here we go with Muh Russia again. LOL Give up, Deep State/Uniparty. They keep recycling the same bs.
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Does that mean he might lose your vote? yogi555
:silly:
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If hard to imagine how any fair minded person would unwittingly fall for yet another one of these political scams.
Anyone who would beleive that a sitting POTUS would idly sit on a story and do nothing about bounties on US soldiers?
Trump's done some dumb things, but this claim is beyond preposterous. Zero chance it happened. Any Briefer who gives this the slightest credibility, has gone off the rails.
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Listen, I also think @Chosen Daughter was out of line. The KMA reply handled it... But looking at your posting record, you rarely post this late and we know @Cyber Liberty also goes to be bed usually before this time.
It is almost like you timed your reply (which is even more out of line that CD) to last the longest without being pulled. A troll tactic if actually planed that way. Just my observation.
Yeah yeah, I know, I can kiss you butt.... Go to bed folks and come out feeling better tomorrow. I know I am (maybe, would be nice to actually get a decent hour of sleep again).
@Sighlass
Not a "troll tactic", sir. If you're accusing me of trolling, just what does the hallowed forum's anointed 'daughter' fall under?
I no longer sleep very well. Only in 2 hour increments. Prostate the size of a cantaloupe.
And @Cyber Liberty was pinged because he's the Warden here.
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For the Fourth time, now, with feeling.
JUST WHAT IS TRUMP SUPPOSED TO DO ABOUT THIS, EVEN IF IT WAS HAPPENING?
I await a rational reply.
not try and push Russia back into the G7? Condemn them, more sanctions etc
Seems trump and there fans are more angry about the leak or “fake news†than a threat against the soldiers who are heroes.
Australia and UK intel have said it was a credible threat, so it’s not even fake news.
The first response was it’s fake news, then second response was it’s not fake but the president wasn’t informed, the next response was it wasn’t given to the president because it wasn’t credible.
Which one is it?
New reports are saying he was given it in a report, did he just not read it?
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not try and push Russia back into the G7? Condemn them, more sanctions etc
Seems trump and there fans are more angry about the leak or “fake news†than a threat against the soldiers who are heroes.
Australia and UK intel have said it was a credible threat, so it’s not even fake news.
The first response was it’s fake news, then second response was it’s not fake but the president wasn’t informed, the next response was it wasn’t given to the president because it wasn’t credible.
Which one is it?
New reports are saying he was given it in a report, did he just not read it?
FYI.... U.K. and Australia were involved in the fake Steele Dossier. That's what their words are worth.
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not try and push Russia back into the G7? Condemn them, more sanctions etc
Seems trump and there fans are more angry about the leak or “fake news†than a threat against the soldiers who are heroes.
Australia and UK intel have said it was a credible threat, so it’s not even fake news.
The first response was it’s fake news, then second response was it’s not fake but the president wasn’t informed, the next response was it wasn’t given to the president because it wasn’t credible.
Which one is it?
New reports are saying he was given it in a report, did he just not read it?
For starters, our troops are in harm's way over there. It is part of the job. That the Russians might put a bounty on our troops, if credible reopens the idea that maybe the old Soviet and US animosities aren't completely gone. Which, imho means Communism isn't dead, just repackaged and rebranded--not such a bad idea if your country is on the ropes. Besides, declaring Communism dead is like the Devil convincing people he doesn't exist. A lot of dirty work can be done and any attribution passed off to lesser entities while the unified plan goes head.
That said, One source says not credible, another says it is, but there are some highly questionable bits from those sources which have been used to keep the US in somewhat of a turmoil for three years, and as an excuse to toss any rules, laws, and Constitutionality of investigations that frankly, were a quantum leap in spying on another political campaign. Nixon' Plumbers were amateur pikers compared to that lot. and the third response says the same as the first, that the information was not credible. Publish that in the NYT and my BS meter goes off.
Keeping Russia close means more opportunities to find out what is going on.
Push them out of the G7 and inpose more sanctions and they will play games with oil prices you may not have noticed, but which rocked the industry a few days before the COVID-19 bit even came into play. It is in our national interest to keep those prices above $40/bbl and reasonably stable. Trust me on that. It's a big part of rejuvenating our economy. It was the Russians and Saudis at OPEC+ who crashed the price that set up something unprecedented in the industry--oil prices going negative.
If there is truth to the matter, however, any intel will be harder to get now that the NYT has flapped their journalistic lips about the whole thing, which will make it much harder to drop a missile from a predator on a payoff somewhere. The Grey Lady never fails to deliver for her paying customers.
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FYI.... U.K. and Australia were involved in the fake Steele Dossier. That's what their words are worth.
this is FAKE news. The uk government and intelligence agencies said they didn’t believe the dossier and specifically wrote a memo to Flynn saying so. That has been brought up time and again and was brought up in Congress.
The Australian side was literally nothing to do with the Steele dossier, more to do with Papadopoulos telling an Australia diplomat saying the Russians have dirt on Clinton.
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Seems trump and there fans are more angry about the leak or “fake news†than a threat against the soldiers who are heroes.
Australia and UK intel have said it was a credible threat, so it’s not even fake news.
@Stevensr123
It would be refreshing if you could ask a question or express an opinion on current events without disrespecting fellow Briefers who support the President. I know I would appreciate it.
Rep. Banks served in Afghanistan during the time the alleged bounties were placed. After he attended yesterday's White House briefing he tweeted the following --- furious at the damage the NYT has done simply to advance the DNC agenda.
As for Australia and the UK ... they have proven themselves biased and unreliable on all things Russian intelligence. It's going to take time for them to repair the damage they have done to themselves.
Jim Banks
@RepJimBanks
I just left the White House where I was briefed by CoS @MarkMeadows and top intelligence officials. They discussed @nytimes' hit piece falsely accusing @realDonaldTrump of ignoring reports that Russia placed bounties on American soldiers in Afghanistan.
3:26 PM · Jun 29, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/RepJimBanks/status/1277684823063171073
Jim Banks
@RepJimBanks
The real scandal: We’ll likely never know the truth… Because the @nytimes used unconfirmed intel in an ONGOING investigation into targeted killing of American soldiers in order to smear the President. The blood is on their hands.
3:33 PM · Jun 29, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/RepJimBanks/status/1277686655776784386
Jim Banks
@RepJimBanks
Sad, but many in the media & Congress rushed to judgement before learning the whole story. We should treat anonymously sourced @nytimes stories about Russia w/ skepticism.
Here's a fact: No President in my lifetime has been tougher on Russia than @realDonaldTrump
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3:40 PM · Jun 29, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/RepJimBanks/status/1277688518802890754
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Jim Banks
@RepJimBanks
Sad, but many in the media & Congress rushed to judgement before learning the whole story. We should treat anonymously sourced @nytimes stories about Russia w/ skepticism.
Here's a fact: No President in my lifetime has been tougher on Russia than @realDonaldTrump
@Stevensr123 Try using facts not emotion in your misinformed criticism of the president. It’s a shame you have no idea what’s good for you and your country in 126 days.
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@XenaLee
You know I have only been on the forum for four years but I never considered using the ignore feature until recently when I just could not take a certain posters blatant bias and irrational posting anymore without my blood pressure spiking. It's only been a day but it is actually blissful since I no longer see her ranting and raving. And it's so easy to pass by the lunacy that gets through when others quote her diatribes. Yup a good old Meidung on my part was over due.
I have used the ignore feature for one other poster .... but it really does no good since you can still get pinged by the person you're ignoring....plus you still see their posts in the quotes of others, so it doesn't really 'work' to filter out the idiocy. I usually take her BS in stride and have been more amused than angry in the past... but I do have my limits and when you catch me in the right (wrong) mood...."s" happens. I'm only human! lololol
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@Sighlass
I no longer sleep very well. Only in 2 hour increments. Prostate the size of a cantaloupe.
As evidence in my posting, you aren't the only one. I forgot what is like to have a full night sleep. Wife has to have TV on to sleep. Me the opposite. Sleeping in shifts sucks I tell ya. **nononono*
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Anyone who would beleive that a sitting POTUS would idly sit on a story and do nothing about bounties on US soldiers?
Trump's done some dumb things, but this claim is beyond preposterous. Zero chance it happened. Any Briefer who gives this the slightest credibility, has gone off the rails.
That, plus... the stats don't show any increase, drastic or otherwise, in the deaths of US soldiers. They don't, as usual, have facts or truth on their side. Just another (one of many) contrived myth that they hope works to keep Trump from being re-elected. Expect many more of these attempts over the next four months.
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@Sighlass
Not a "troll tactic", sir. If you're accusing me of trolling, just what does the hallowed forum's anointed 'daughter' fall under?
I no longer sleep very well. Only in 2 hour increments. Prostate the size of a cantaloupe.
And @Cyber Liberty was pinged because he's the Warden here.
One of 'em anyway. I think today might be a "short fuse" day.
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For starters, our troops are in harm's way over there. It is part of the job. That the Russians might put a bounty on our troops, if credible reopens the idea that maybe the old Soviet and US animosities aren't completely gone. Which, imho means Communism isn't dead, just repackaged and rebranded--not such a bad idea if your country is on the ropes. Besides, declaring Communism dead is like the Devil convincing people he doesn't exist. A lot of dirty work can be done and any attribution passed off to lesser entities while the unified plan goes head.
That said, One source says not credible, another says it is, but there are some highly questionable bits from those sources which have been used to keep the US in somewhat of a turmoil for three years, and as an excuse to toss any rules, laws, and Constitutionality of investigations that frankly, were a quantum leap in spying on another political campaign. Nixon' Plumbers were amateur pikers compared to that lot. and the third response says the same as the first, that the information was not credible. Publish that in the NYT and my BS meter goes off.
Keeping Russia close means more opportunities to find out what is going on.
Push them out of the G7 and inpose more sanctions and they will play games with oil prices you may not have noticed, but which rocked the industry a few days before the COVID-19 bit even came into play. It is in our national interest to keep those prices above $40/bbl and reasonably stable. Trust me on that. It's a big part of rejuvenating our economy. It was the Russians and Saudis at OPEC+ who crashed the price that set up something unprecedented in the industry--oil prices going negative.
If there is truth to the matter, however, any intel will be harder to get now that the NYT has flapped their journalistic lips about the whole thing, which will make it much harder to drop a missile from a predator on a payoff somewhere. The Grey Lady never fails to deliver for her paying customers.
Exactly. If anyone is in bed with Putin... it's the leftist aholes at the NY Slimes. And that has been true for as long as I can remember. Same goes for WaPo. Both rags are an extension and branch of the Democratic Party.
We have glaringly obvious enemies of America operating in plain sight for decades.... yet the DemocRats point that blame finger elsewhere. They are America's Enemy Within. It's time for ALL Americans to wake the hell up to the threat and the reality we are faced with... finally.
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One of 'em anyway. I think today might be a "short fuse" day.
Not for me. Today will be a "reset" day from a previous ...um... overload. lololol
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Not for me. Today will be a "reset" day from a previous ...um... overload. lololol
Well, my Governor thinks he can slap everybody in chains again, and I think he'll have trouble enforcing it. I hope so, anyway.
So-and-so better not be slinging shit all day, as usual. I'm just not in the mood, and I'd like to create a couple days of relative peace on the Forum.
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I think today might be a "short fuse" day.
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Geraldo Rivera
@GeraldoRivera
After enjoying big splash from sensational #RussianBounty expose, #NYT retreating to shore-admitting "the underlying intelligence was conflicting."
In 3 years of @realDonaldTrump all NYT/Russia reporting has been based on "conflicting" intelligence - Also known as wishful thinking
8:01 AM · Jun 30, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/GeraldoRivera/status/1277935269791006720
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Well, my Governor thinks he can slap everybody in chains again, and I think he'll have trouble enforcing it. I hope so, anyway.
So-and-so better not be slinging shit all day, as usual. I'm just not in the mood, and I'd like to create a couple days of relative peace on the Forum.
I hear ya. We cannot afford to fall prey to the ssdd divisiveness that the other side loves to use against us. It's a critical time and we need to focus on combating the enemy. So.....
to a peaceful, but productive, day (or three)! :beer:
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not try and push Russia back into the G7? Condemn them, more sanctions etc
Seems trump and there fans are more angry about the leak or “fake news†than a threat against the soldiers who are heroes.
Australia and UK intel have said it was a credible threat, so it’s not even fake news.
The first response was it’s fake news, then second response was it’s not fake but the president wasn’t informed, the next response was it wasn’t given to the president because it wasn’t credible.
Which one is it?
New reports are saying he was given it in a report, did he just not read it?
Good question and truth^
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Good question and truth^
I'm with @XenaLee
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Not for me. Today will be a "reset" day from a previous ...um... overload. lololol
You are the one that trivialized American soldiers dying in Afghanistan. I am not sure about anybody but in my mind 1 is too many. Here is your post:
Bottom line... if there was a "bounty" on US soldiers in Afghanistan.... it sure as hell must not be much or enough $$$... since there have only been eight friggin US military deaths so far there. Last year only 24. Just more fake bullsquat from the lying idiot left and their stuckonstupid minions.
http://www.icasualties.org/ (http://www.icasualties.org/)
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I'm with @XenaLee
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Good question and truth^
Seems that super conservative news outlet CBS (/s) tends to disagree.
https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/06/28/report-theres-no-evidence-the-intel-driving-that-russian-bounty-story-even-exists/ (https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/06/28/report-theres-no-evidence-the-intel-driving-that-russian-bounty-story-even-exists/)
I like you CD, but you perpetuating fabricated media generated hit pieces is not helping your fortunes or credbility here.
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You are the one that trivialized American soldiers dying in Afghanistan. I am not sure about anybody but in my mind 1 is too many. Here is your post:
Bottom line... if there was a "bounty" on US soldiers in Afghanistan.... it sure as hell must not be much or enough $$$... since there have only been eight friggin US military deaths so far there. Last year only 24. Just more fake bullsquat from the lying idiot left and their stuckonstupid minions.
http://www.icasualties.org/ (http://www.icasualties.org/)
Earth to (I'll be nice here....maybe) CD:
Did you bother to check on that site how many died on Obama's watch???
Nobody cares more about the US Military than Trump. For the rabid morons on the left (and you) to suddenly ""care"" about military deaths is laughable. Nobody GAS when Obama was in the WH and we lost one helluva lot of soldiers over there under his watch. Nobody dared even comment on it. But now, alluva sudden it's an "issue"? Bull shit.
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Seems that super conservative news outlet CBS (/s) tends to disagree.
https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/06/28/report-theres-no-evidence-the-intel-driving-that-russian-bounty-story-even-exists/ (https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/06/28/report-theres-no-evidence-the-intel-driving-that-russian-bounty-story-even-exists/)
I like you CD, but you perpetuating fabricated media generated hit pieces is not helping your fortunes or credbility here.
What credibility??? :silly:
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I'm with @XenaLee
On this, so am I.
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Nobody cares more about the US Military than Trump. For the rabid morons on the left (and you) to suddenly ""care"" about military deaths is laughable. Nobody GAS when Obama was in the WH and we lost one helluva lot of soldiers over there under his watch. Nobody dared even comment on it. But now, alluva sudden it's an "issue"? Bull shit.
Very true. There was plenty of ancectdotal evidence of how much Obama hated and disrespected the military. It really pains me to see conservatives like CD slander POTUS on a fabricated hit piece., when she has to realize that Biden will be Obama II, and probably much much worse, with his acceptance of his parties socialist tsunami.
I as much as anyone has no problem holding Trump's feet to the fire, when he screws up, but local acceptance here of the MSM bullshit, is really sad.
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Very true. There was plenty of ancectdotal evidence of how much Obama hated and disrespected the military. It really pains me to see conservatives like CD slander POTUS on a fabricated hit piece., when she has to realize that Biden will be Obama II, and probably much much worse, with his acceptance of his parties socialist tsunami.
I as much as anyone has no problem holding Trump's feet to the fire, when he screws up, but local acceptance here of the MSM bullshit, is really sad.
I totally agree.
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Would Trump allow Russia to kill our soldiers and not do anything? Others here have asked the question what was he supposed to do even if it is true.
If it is true there are many things. Call for Russia to be removed from Security Council. Designate them as a Terrorist State. Sanctions. Certainly not calling for them to be part of G7.
I think it was stated in a previous post that UK and Australia have said the intelligence is true. I don't know what happened to our intelligence, but if true that Trump never was briefed it must be incompetence. Because intelligence doesn't have to be perfect to be reported to the president. This is a matter of troops being targeted by Russia.
I find it very hard to understand how people who were outraged with Obama and Hillary on Benghazi taking the approach they are with this. None of us would have tried to minimize the death of Ambassador Stevens and the others who died in Libya. Yet we are asking questions like what should Trump do?
And Trump has been a dry cleaning turn around for our top officials. And I am not impressed with Grenell. Something happened and they are all trying to make excuses for the others. Whether Trump knew or it is incompetence due to chaos in the White House, doesn't matter. It has to be addressed.
Quote from: Stevensr123 on Today at 04:46:55 AM
not try and push Russia back into the G7? Condemn them, more sanctions etc
Seems trump and there fans are more angry about the leak or “fake news†than a threat against the soldiers who are heroes.
Australia and UK intel have said it was a credible threat, so it’s not even fake news.
The first response was it’s fake news, then second response was it’s not fake but the president wasn’t informed, the next response was it wasn’t given to the president because it wasn’t credible.
Which one is it?
New reports are saying he was given it in a report, did he just not read it?
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Very true. There was plenty of ancectdotal evidence of how much Obama hated and disrespected the military. It really pains me to see conservatives like CD slander POTUS on a fabricated hit piece., when she has to realize that Biden will be Obama II, and probably much much worse, with his acceptance of his parties socialist tsunami.
I as much as anyone has no problem holding Trump's feet to the fire, when he screws up, but local acceptance here of the MSM bullshit, is really sad.
Continuing to engage in nonstop attacks on Trump, in spite of the lack of evidence, with only four months to go to election time leads to only one conclusion about those doing the attacking.
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Seems that super conservative news outlet CBS (/s) tends to disagree.
https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/06/28/report-theres-no-evidence-the-intel-driving-that-russian-bounty-story-even-exists/ (https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/06/28/report-theres-no-evidence-the-intel-driving-that-russian-bounty-story-even-exists/)
I like you CD, but you perpetuating fabricated media generated hit pieces is not helping your fortunes or credbility here.
I like you too, but it isn't proven this is fabricated. Only on this forum it is. And many Republicans are trying to find out what happened. But some people just want to drop it.
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And Trump has been a dry cleaning turn around for our top officials. And I am not impressed with Grenell. Something happened and they are all trying to make excuses for the others. Whether Trump knew or it is incompetence due to chaos in the White House, doesn't matter. It has to be addressed.
Have you even read the last 2 pages of repsonses? Even CBS is alluding its a fabrication. What is your fixation on this? Just think if you applied the same hatred toward Biden, Obama, AOC, and the other socialist trying to destroy our country.
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I like you too, but it isn't proven this is fabricated. Only on this forum it is. And many Republicans are trying to find out what happened. But some people just want to drop it.
With a straight face..... Tell me .......
Why would any sitting POTUS want to ignore (infers complicity) an enemy being allowed to conduct bounties on our military who likely has a 80-90% approval in our country?
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Continuing to engage in nonstop attacks on Trump, in spite of the lack of evidence, with only four months to go to election time leads to only one conclusion about those doing the attacking.
I can't help but wonder if she expects to get a 'perk' or at least a gold star for her efforts against Trump here. Waaay overpaid, if so...lololol.
I also don't understand how she thinks she's gaining ground here by insulting those of us that are military folks (military brat, in my case). It's not those of us on the right that... as she accused me of... "trivialized American soldiers dying in Afghanistan". It's the damned DemocRats who never questioned Obama's Rules of Engagement changes and edicts that got hundreds of our military killed.
Yeah...I've come to the conclusion that she must be 'for' the other side....an operative, so to speak. What other conclusion could be gleened? And if this conclusion gets me in trouble here....
I'll take that hit. happy77
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Yeah...I've come to the conclusion that she must be 'for' the other side....an operative, so to speak. What other conclusion could be gleened? And if this conclusion gets me in trouble here....
I'll take that hit. happy77
Her ancillary posting indicates she has a pretty strong conservative POV, but her hatred of Trump has gone beyond reason. I think we are at the point of pulling out the doll and asking where Trump touched her.
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@Axeslinger
@Cyber Liberty
GD troll b*tch.
And you get up on the soapbox calling ME a pox on the forum.
As @XenaLee so eloquently said up thread: KMA.
@DCPatriot
Take a look at my posts. I’ve been all over her too, as recently as the last couple of days in fact. Intellectual honesty, remember?
Doesn’t change your MO. Look no further than your post above.
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Have you even read the last 2 pages of repsonses? Even CBS is alluding its a fabrication. What is your fixation on this? Just think if you applied the same hatred toward Biden, Obama, AOC, and the other socialist trying to destroy our country.
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I like you too, but it isn't proven this is fabricated. Only on this forum it is. And many Republicans are trying to find out what happened. But some people just want to drop it.
The sad thing is that you seem to want so desperately for it to be true.
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I can't help but wonder if she expects to get a 'perk' or at least a gold star for her efforts against Trump here. Waaay overpaid, if so...lololol.
I also don't understand how she thinks she's gaining ground here by insulting those of us that are military folks (military brat, in my case). It's not those of us on the right that... as she accused me of... "trivialized American soldiers dying in Afghanistan". It's the damned DemocRats who never questioned Obama's Rules of Engagement changes and edicts that got hundreds of our military killed.
Yeah...I've come to the conclusion that she must be 'for' the other side....an operative, so to speak. What other conclusion could be gleened? And if this conclusion gets me in trouble here....
I'll take that hit. happy77
Why would it get you in trouble? Its plainly true.
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Her ancillary posting indicates she has a pretty strong conservative POV, but her hatred of Trump has gone beyond reason. I think we are at the point of pulling out the doll and asking where Trump touched her.
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Her ancillary posting indicates she has a pretty strong conservative POV, but her hatred of Trump has gone beyond reason. I think we are at the point of pulling out the doll and asking where Trump touched her.
Uh... sorry... but I just can't buy that anyone even a little bit conservative could or would verbally campaign against someone that is the only hope we have (right now) of saving America from totalitarian radical leftist rule.
Back at the forum I started out on (in the good ole days).... there were posters there that were rabidly anti-Republican on most of the important issues... but they managed to present themselves as conservative on a few minor, fiscal issues, despite their leftist bent. Nobody was fooled back then and nobody should be fooled now. JS....
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The sad thing is that you seem to want so desperately for it to be true.
She’s a carpenter and Trump is the nail. If only she looked closer though; Trump’s really a staple.
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With a straight face..... Tell me .......
Why would any sitting POTUS want to ignore (infers complicity) an enemy being allowed to conduct bounties on our military who likely has a 80-90% approval in our country?
And CD says:
Derp.....does not compute....does not compute....
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Why would it get you in trouble? Its plainly true.
I don't know. I'm only too aware of how difficult it must be for the "authorities" here, I guess. Like being an umpire, somebody's always going to be pissed as hell. :shrug:
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I don't know. I'm only too aware of how difficult it must be for the "authorities" here, I guess. Like being an umpire, somebody's always going to be pissed as hell. :shrug:
...truer words..
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Former Fox News Reporter Rams Dagger into Heart of Taliban-Russia Story Used to Attack Trump
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/06/29/former-fox-news-reporter-rams-dagger-into-heart-of-taliban-russia-story-used-to-a-n2571539
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I don't know. I'm only too aware of how difficult it must be for the "authorities" here, I guess. Like being an umpire, somebody's always going to be pissed as hell. :shrug:
Don't forget..... The Super Trump faction has Legal American, who is just as over the top, and FOS. Many of us feel the same about her.
And you know what? There is a deafening silence of the pro-Trump side calling her down. Hmmmmmm.... How about some parity in this outrage?
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GOP Rep. Stewart: Pelosi, Schiff, ‘All of Us’ Had Russia Bounty Intel Presented to Them – Some of It ‘Goes Back for Several Years’
On Monday’s broadcast of CNN’s “Cuomo Primetime,†Rep. Chris Stewart (R-UT), who was briefed on the intelligence about Russian bounties on U.S. soldiers, stated that the intelligence “isn’t something that just popped up in the last few weeks or the last few months. Some of this intel actually goes back for several years.†And that “Nancy Pelosi had this presented to her as well, in much the same format. So did Adam Schiff. All of us did.â€
more
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/06/30/gop-rep-stewart-pelosi-schiff-all-of-us-had-russia-bounty-intel-presented-to-them-some-of-it-goes-back-for-several-years/ (https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/06/30/gop-rep-stewart-pelosi-schiff-all-of-us-had-russia-bounty-intel-presented-to-them-some-of-it-goes-back-for-several-years/)
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Don't forget..... The Super Trump faction has Legal American, who is just as over the top, and FOS. Many of us feel the same about her.
And you know what? There is a deafening silence of the pro-Trump side calling her down. Hmmmmmm....
Touché!
I'm not real fond of her myself. Notice she never responds to me....lol. Wonder why? [innocent look] Maybe because I usually just ignore her posts as over the top....?
How about some parity in this outrage?
Ok. I promise to call her out on her overzealous defense of Trump next time! :silly:
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GOP Rep. Stewart: Pelosi, Schiff, ‘All of Us’ Had Russia Bounty Intel Presented to Them – Some of It ‘Goes Back for Several Years’
Donnng my tin foil hat, I can see Obama having no problem putting servicemen in harms way as a vendetta.
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Touché!
I'm not real fond of her myself. Notice she never responds to me....lol. Wonder why? [innocent look] Maybe because I usually just ignore her posts as over the top....?
Ok. I promise to call her out on her overzealous defense of Trump next time! :silly:
Why? The biddy makes me laugh.
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GOP Rep. Stewart: Pelosi, Schiff, ‘All of Us’ Had Russia Bounty Intel Presented to Them – Some of It ‘Goes Back for Several Years’
more
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/06/30/gop-rep-stewart-pelosi-schiff-all-of-us-had-russia-bounty-intel-presented-to-them-some-of-it-goes-back-for-several-years/ (https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/06/30/gop-rep-stewart-pelosi-schiff-all-of-us-had-russia-bounty-intel-presented-to-them-some-of-it-goes-back-for-several-years/)
Uh... would that be "several years" going back during the Obama reign? Because... if you look at the fatality numbers back then... it makes the "bounty" story more possible. It also would make sense since the Democrat leftists always blame the right for what they themselves are or have been guilty of.
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Donnng my tin foil hat, I can see Obama having no problem putting servicemen in harms way as a vendetta.
@catfish1957
You’re only bashing Obama to make Trump look good!!!!
< /sarc>. Just wanted to be an equal opportunity PITA.
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Touché!
I'm not real fond of her myself. Notice she never responds to me....lol. Wonder why? [innocent look] Maybe because I usually just ignore her posts as over the top....?
Ok. I promise to call her out on her overzealous defense of Trump next time! :silly:
Join the club. Everybody jumps her, and she posts rather sporadically. The other posts constantly, so much so it looks like trolling the Members.
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Why? The biddy makes me laugh.
She's entertainment. I can't say the same about predictable anti-Trump rants.
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Why? The biddy makes me laugh.
Because when someone says I’m “A LEFTâ€, it makes me want to punch them in the face. And a man shouldn’t do that to a woman. So frustrated anger is all that’s left. :silly:
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She's entertainment. I can't say the same about predictable anti-Trump rants.
8888crybaby...I thought I had some pretty good anti-Trump rants in the past. :rolling:
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Because when someone says I’m “A LEFTâ€, it makes me want to punch them in the face. And a man shouldn’t do that to a woman. So frustrated anger is all that’s left. :silly:
Hmmm....uh.... so.....
is it ok for a woman to do it? :rolling:
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8888crybaby...I thought I had some pretty good anti-Trump rants in the past. :rolling:
Sorry. No ceegar. But you tried! :patriot:
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I enjoy a good rant from all sides, but when they become predictable I get bored, and that usually doesn't end well. :whistle:
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GOP Rep. Stewart: Pelosi, Schiff, ‘All of Us’ Had Russia Bounty Intel Presented to Them – Some of It ‘Goes Back for Several Years’
more
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/06/30/gop-rep-stewart-pelosi-schiff-all-of-us-had-russia-bounty-intel-presented-to-them-some-of-it-goes-back-for-several-years/ (https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/06/30/gop-rep-stewart-pelosi-schiff-all-of-us-had-russia-bounty-intel-presented-to-them-some-of-it-goes-back-for-several-years/)
They all knew about these allegations for years..now the Dems are going to accuse Trump of complacency in allowing our troops to be murdered by RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA
All the Rats being interviewed are all in lock step that there should be investigations of Trump....and to see our own Party agreeing is sickening
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They all knew about these allegations for years..now the Dems are going to accuse Trump of complacency in allowing our troops to be murdered by RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA
All the Rats being interviewed are all in lock step that there should be investigations of Trump....and to see our own Party agreeing is sickening
If Trump got the briefing and did nothing about it, he’s guilty. If Trump didn’t get the memo, his administration is at fault, and Trump’s guilty.
Heads I win, tails you lose. See how that works?
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Because when someone says I’m “A LEFTâ€, it makes me want to punch them in the face. And a man shouldn’t do that to a woman. So frustrated anger is all that’s left. :silly:
She called me a leftist, too. I was amused.
But as much a loose cannon as she is she’s on the right side and thats deserving of a bit more patience IMO.
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She called me a leftist, too. I was amused.
But as much a loose cannon as she is she’s on the right side and thats deserving of a bit more patience IMO.
That is where we diverge a bit. LA calling me a leftist and un-american is not condusive of saying she is on the "right side". She's a babbling blithering fool spouting off DJT's most far fetched talking points like a puppet. She's 2X worse than CD in my book.
I liken her to a trojan horse being spitted out of the TOS Mothership.
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That is where we diverge a bit. LA calling me a leftist and un-american is not condusive of saying she is on the "right side". She's a babbling blithering fool spouting off DJT's most far fetched talking points like a puppet. She's 2X worse than CD in my book.
I liken her to a trojan horse being spitted out of the TOS Mothership.
When you think about it, both of the members under discussion add something to the conversation, because the arguments are instructive. What are the Nevers/Evers up to now? When it becomes tired old trolling is when I start looking closely. That's boring.
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That is where we diverge a bit. LA calling me a leftist and un-american is not condusive of saying she is on the "right side". She's a babbling blithering fool spouting off DJT's most far fetched talking points like a puppet. She's 2X worse than CD in my book.
I liken her to a trojan horse being spitted out of the TOS Mothership.
Well I hope she's pleased by the election results, and I hope CD is disappointed. 'Nuff said.
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When you think about it, both of the members under discussion add something to the conversation, because the arguments are instructive. What are the Nevers/Evers up to now? When it becomes tired old trolling is when I start looking closely. That's boring.
aka...shit stirrers. :cool:
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aka...shit stirrers. :cool:
Pretty much. The whole place could get boring if the shit doesn't get stirred once in a while. Maybe I'm just in a bad mood about it today?
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Pretty much. The whole place could get boring if the shit doesn't get stirred once in a while. Maybe I'm just in a bad mood about it today?
As much hell as CD catches here, her posting history shows she that she has never said she would vote for Biden. I think she just hates Trump.
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As much hell as CD catches here, her posting history shows she that she has never said she would vote for Biden. I think she just hates Trump.
Choices, choices.
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I enjoy a good rant from all sides, but when they become predictable I get bored, and that usually doesn't end well. :whistle:
Quite honestly... and considering what the RL is attempting to do to America (fundamentally transform us into a Marxist shole).... I can't imagine any logical rants other than those against the Democrats/Leftists. I'm a realist (often called a pessimist instead)... and even I have noticed that others in media (on the right) have been making comments and showing fear for the future of this nation.
I've been verbally fighting these leftist aholes for decades on the internet (and in person...lol). The very notion that we could lose this country was never more real than it is today. So anyone ranting against the right in this current environment and with this upcoming election is, in my humble opinion, rooting for the left. And that I can't abide.
My patience with those ranting against the right (ie Trump) went bye-bye right about the time Soros-paid rioters and BLM Marxists started massing for looting, destroying private property, beating anyone they deemed not "woke", and threatening those of us on the right and anyone that happens to be (gasp!) white. I make no apologies for my current "mood".
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As much hell as CD catches here, her posting history shows she that she has never said she would vote for Biden. I think she just hates Trump.
Fine. Anyone is free to hate anyone (so far). But this still is a right-leaning political discussion forum.... and if she can't stand the heat she so justly gets and deserves for her idiotic posts... then she should "retire". She seems to enjoy the $hit-stirring though, so....
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Choices, choices.
Decisions, decisions..... :cool:
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Pretty much. The whole place could get boring if the shit doesn't get stirred once in a while. Maybe I'm just in a bad mood about it today?
You just need to take a chill pillbeer! happy77
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Fine. Anyone is free to hate anyone (so far). But this still is a right-leaning political discussion forum.... and if she can't stand the heat she so justly gets and deserves for her idiotic posts... then she should "retire". She seems to enjoy the $hit-stirring though, so....
The thing is, however ridiculous it seems, we do get a preview of what kind of bullshit waits for us in the meat world, which is where we live, work and recreate. It's nice to have already heard it when Uncle Joe starts spouting Rat talking points, so we have ready responses.
If we eliminate our exposure to that acid, we'll have a hard time repelling it when it comes our way. And that's why we put up with it.
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You just need to take a chill pillbeer! happy77
:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:
There'll be time for a beer later, after we get back from a gig at the GOP HQ today. We have much to discuss, because the idiot Governor slapped the "Safe at Home" order back on us, and the Mayor went further than before with a mandatory facemask submission gesture to even set foot in stores.
I'm a refusenik, so I probably won't be going out for awhile, again.
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The thing is, however ridiculous it seems, we do get a preview of what kind of bullshit waits for us in the meat world, which is where we live, work and recreate. It's nice to have already heard it when Uncle Joe starts spouting Rat talking points, so we have ready responses.
If we eliminate our exposure to that acid, we'll have a hard time repelling it when it comes our way. And that's why we put up with it.
Agreed. It's like we're working on our ""herd immunity"" to the outside world's leftist BS.
But careful.... lest she start thinking that she's providing a needed service here. :laugh:
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The thing is, however ridiculous it seems, we do get a preview of what kind of bullshit waits for us in the meat world, which is where we live, work and recreate. It's nice to have already heard it when Uncle Joe starts spouting Rat talking points, so we have ready responses.
If we eliminate our exposure to that acid, we'll have a hard time repelling it when it comes our way. And that's why we put up with it.
I can think of 4 or 5 times CD, has come up with valid issues here that have not put Trump in the best light. I for one, don't want TBR be an Orange Echo Chamber like TOS. We need varied views.
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There'll be time for a beer later, after we get back from a gig at the GOP HQ today. We have much to discuss, because the idiot Governor slapped the "Safe at Home" order back on us, and the Mayor went further than before with a mandatory facemask submission gesture to even set foot in stores.
I'm a refusenik, so I probably won't be going out for awhile, again.
I can relate. Gov Abbott closed the bars (again) and has bought into the hype, apparently. I don't go to bars any more (can't afford to)... but I feel sorry for those bar owners that are seeing their biz being destroyed by paranoia and outright orchestrated, agenda-driven lies.
By the way, can you give us an update on what was discussed and/or decided in that meeting? Thanks.
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I can think of 4 or 5 times CD, has come up with valid issues here that have not put Trump in the best light. I for one, don't want TBR be an Orange Echo Chamber like TOS. We need varied views.
Yes, we need varied views. What we do NOT need is to be browbeaten by leftist propaganda.
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I can relate. Gov Abbott closed the bars (again) and has bought into the hype, apparently. I don't go to bars any more (can't afford to)... but I feel sorry for those bar owners that are seeing their biz being destroyed by paranoia and outright orchestrated, agenda-driven lies.
Abbott is kind of in a rock and hard place right now, and walking a narrow tight rope of balancing the economic impacts with media blaming him for prematurely opening Texas. News media outlets outside of Austin have been relatively fair, but I sense some dissension now.
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Abbott is kind of in a rock and hard place right now, and walking a narrow tight rope of balancing the economic impacts with media blaming him for prematurely opening Texas. News media outlets outside of Austin have been relatively fair, but I sense some dissension now.
I understand what he is up against (same as with Trump). What I expect from him as a Republican (non-leftist) governor is, however, to not cave to the media. Because... as we know by now... caving to the leftist lying media is the road to failure, destruction and doom. The very opposite of victory.
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I can relate. Gov Abbott closed the bars (again) and has bought into the hype, apparently. I don't go to bars any more (can't afford to)... but I feel sorry for those bar owners that are seeing their biz being destroyed by paranoia and outright orchestrated, agenda-driven lies.
By the way, can you give us an update on what was discussed and/or decided in that meeting? Thanks.
Today's gig was a long-scheduled get together to go over registering voters, but the District Director will be there, and the discussion will be about what gets cancelled. We were planning to get the HQ opened all day, staffed with volunteers starting tomorrow, but we'll probably close the whole office for awhile. We're moving into the time of the year we can't go door to door very well so it'll be phone banking now.
I'm sure the Picnic in a couple weeks will be cancelled. We need to have that because it's a big fundraiser for the local offices.
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Quite honestly... and considering what the RL is attempting to do to America (fundamentally transform us into a Marxist shole).... I can't imagine any logical rants other than those against the Democrats/Leftists. I'm a realist (often called a pessimist instead)... and even I have noticed that others in media (on the right) have been making comments and showing fear for the future of this nation.
I've been verbally fighting these leftist aholes for decades on the internet (and in person...lol). The very notion that we could lose this country was never more real than it is today. So anyone ranting against the right in this current environment and with this upcoming election is, in my humble opinion, rooting for the left. And that I can't abide.
My patience with those ranting against the right (ie Trump) went bye-bye right about the time Soros-paid rioters and BLM Marxists started massing for looting, destroying private property, beating anyone they deemed not "woke", and threatening those of us on the right and anyone that happens to be (gasp!) white. I make no apologies for my current "mood".
Excellent post! My sentiments exactly.
Time to put the 'ignore' feature back into use rather than deal with the aggravation and that way I can also ensure that I refrain from saying things to a fellow Briefer that I shouldn't.
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Today's gig was a long-scheduled get together to go over registering voters, but the District Director will be there, and the discussion will be about what gets cancelled. We were planning to get the HQ opened all day, staffed with volunteers starting tomorrow, but we'll probably close the whole office for awhile. We're moving into the time of the year we can't go door to door very well so it'll be phone banking now.
I'm sure the Picnic in a couple weeks will be cancelled. We need to have that because it's a big fundraiser for the local offices.
All working to the good of the DemocRat Party, of course. Economy ruined, check. Chaos blamed on Trump, check. Everything the GOP had planned gets cancelled, check. Everything else gets put on hold... except (they hope) their election fraud via mail-in ballots. And you can't convince me that all of these "end results" were not intentional. Call me crazy, but that is one conspiracy theory that I believe is true.
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Excellent post! My sentiments exactly.
Time to put the 'ignore' feature back into use rather than deal with the aggravation and that way I can also ensure that I refrain from saying things to a fellow Briefer that I shouldn't.
Well, you're a better person than I am, obviously... cause I'm going to say what I think (always have = Sagittarius). No ignore feature for me. I intend to challenge the idiocy, instead. And maybe throw in a little (more) mocking, pointing and laughing. :laugh:
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Well, you're a better person than I am, obviously... cause I'm going to say what I think (always have = Sagittarius). No ignore feature for me. I intend to challenge the idiocy, instead. And maybe throw in a little (more) mocking, pointing and laughing. :laugh:
You have more patience than I to put up with the idiocy and taunting and I've been very tempted a couple of times just to unload -- nope -- not going to do that to this forum.
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You have more patience than I to put up with the idiocy and I've been very tempted a couple of times just to unload -- nope -- not going to do that to this forum.
I applaud and salute your restraint, libertybele! You serve as an inspiration to us all, and I mean that sincerely. But me....? I gotta be me. :silly: :silly: :silly:
My patience is MIA.
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You have more patience than I to put up with the idiocy and I've been very tempted a couple of times just to unload -- nope -- not going to do that to this forum.
After a while, you start thinking you're Sisyphus, rolling that boulder up the hill.
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Pardon the off-topic derail question.... but (since everyone seems to be here right now)...
I just saw Biden say he hasn't been tested for Covid-19 yet. My question is....
why the hell not? Rhetorical question: Why isn't the lamestream media all attacking him and asking what is he afraid of? What is he hiding? (like they would be if it was Trump that said he hadn't been tested yet)
Sorry, but I had to ask.
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Pardon the off-topic derail question.... but (since everyone seems to be here right now)...
I just saw Biden say he hasn't been tested for Covid-19 yet. My question is....
why the hell not? Rhetorical question: Why isn't the lamestream media all attacking him and asking what is he afraid of? What is he hiding? (like they would be if it was Trump that said he hadn't been tested yet)
Sorry, but I had to ask.
I wondered that myself (watching the same speech). Especially when he said his Dotter had two positive tests. He's been at it for an hour and is not stumbling as bad as he usually does.
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I wondered that myself (watching the same speech). Especially when he said his Dotter had two positive tests. He's been at it for an hour and is not stumbling as bad as he usually does.
Yes, but... he also just said "I'm going to get in real trouble"... supposedly for being late for some other committment...? Who the hell would want a president that worries about getting ""in trouble"" for being late to a meeting? Even if said in jest. Asinine. The guy is an unfunny joke.
Oh crap... guy just asked him if he's been tested for "cognitive decline"...lolol.
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Yes, but... he also just said "I'm going to get in real trouble"... supposedly for being late for some other committment...? Who the hell would want a president that worries about getting ""in trouble"" for being late to a meeting? Even if said in jest. Asinine. The guy is an unfunny joke.
Oh crap... guy just asked him if he's been tested for "cognitive decline"...lolol.
I noticed he didn't answer that. :rolling:
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Don't forget..... The Super Trump faction has Legal American, who is just as over the top, and FOS. Many of us feel the same about her.
And you know what? There is a deafening silence of the pro-Trump side calling her down. Hmmmmmm.... How about some parity in this outrage?
Well, @catfish1957, if you regard me as part of the "Super Trump faction" you'll find my few interactions with LegalAmerican confrontational rather than agreeable. BTW, LegalAmerican hasn't shown his/her nose here for about a month, and before that was only browse-by posting every week or so.
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Well, @catfish1957, if you regard me as part of the "Super Trump faction" you'll find my few interactions with LegalAmerican confrontational rather than agreeable. BTW, LegalAmerican hasn't shown his/her nose here for about a month, and before that was only browse-by posting every week or so.
While her counterpart is here every day, finding a way to cast every story as a bad move by a Bad Orange Man. Even threads where the President isn't a part of the story.
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Well, @catfish1957, if you regard me as part of the "Super Trump faction" you'll find my few interactions with LegalAmerican confrontational rather than agreeable. BTW, LegalAmerican hasn't shown his/her nose here for about a month, and before that was only browse-by posting every week or so.
My problems with LA amounted to style, which to me just isn't important (I'm a Trump supporter - substance over style).
My problems with CD are related to content. Much more relevant and consequential.
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With Follow-Up Report, NYT Subtly Undercuts Key Aspects Of Its Russia-Taliban Bounty Scoops
Chuck Ross
Investigative Reporter
June 30, 2020 12:05 PM ET
The New York Times published a report Monday that subtly undercut aspects of its reporting last week regarding intelligence indicating that a Russian spy unit paid the Taliban to attack American troops.
The newspaper reported on Friday that the shocking intelligence had been briefed to President Trump in March. The story suggested with little equivocation that U.S. officials believed the intelligence.
But on Monday, the Times reported only that the intelligence was included in a Feb. 27 Presidential Daily Brief commissioned for Trump. The paper also included more detailed reporting about disagreement in the intelligence community about the accuracy of the Russia-Taliban intelligence.
more
https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/30/new-york-times-russia-taliban-trump-bounty/
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While her counterpart is here every day, finding a way to cast every story as a bad move by a Bad Orange Man. Even threads where the President isn't a part of the story.
I'm no shrink... but.... I can recognize an obsessive compulsive disorder, coupled with a cognitive dissonance condition re: that "Orange Man Bad" when I see it. :whistle:
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Well, @catfish1957, if you regard me as part of the "Super Trump faction" you'll find my few interactions with LegalAmerican confrontational rather than agreeable. ...
:silly: "Confrontational" was a bit of an understatement. :silly: More like ****slapping ****slapping ****slapping and :chairbang: :chairbang: :chairbang: and 22222frying pan 22222frying pan 22222frying pan ! :silly:
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With Follow-Up Report, NYT Subtly Undercuts Key Aspects Of Its Russia-Taliban Bounty Scoops
Chuck Ross
Investigative Reporter
June 30, 2020 12:05 PM ET
The New York Times published a report Monday that subtly undercut aspects of its reporting last week regarding intelligence indicating that a Russian spy unit paid the Taliban to attack American troops.
The newspaper reported on Friday that the shocking intelligence had been briefed to President Trump in March. The story suggested with little equivocation that U.S. officials believed the intelligence.
But on Monday, the Times reported only that the intelligence was included in a Feb. 27 Presidential Daily Brief commissioned for Trump. The paper also included more detailed reporting about disagreement in the intelligence community about the accuracy of the Russia-Taliban intelligence.
more
https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/30/new-york-times-russia-taliban-trump-bounty/
So... no retraction... but a subtle (sneaky) backing away and crawfishing (chicken-S) acknowledgement that they could have been wrong. SSDD, IOW.
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Yes, we need varied views. What we do NOT need is to be browbeaten by leftist ANY propaganda.
@XenaLee
Corrected
Intellectual honesty is intellectual honesty. Propaganda is propaganda. Truth is truth.
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@XenaLee
Corrected
Intellectual honesty is intellectual honesty. Propaganda is propaganda. Truth is truth.
I stand corrected. :laugh: :patriot:
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:silly: "Confrontational" was a bit of an understatement. :silly: More like ****slapping ****slapping ****slapping and :chairbang: :chairbang: :chairbang: and 22222frying pan 22222frying pan 22222frying pan ! :silly:
Yeah, I hadn't noticed that LA is been that long ago. Maybe it just seems like yesterday. OTOH, a recently naturalized citizen who questions my loyalty as an American and calling me a liberal??? Haven't seen that tactic from CD.
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Yeah, I hadn't noticed that LA is been that long ago. Maybe it just seems like yesterday. OTOH, a recently naturalized citizen who questions my loyalty as an American and calling me a liberal??? Haven't seen that tactic from CD.
And you won't, most likely. :2popcorn:
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While her counterpart is here every day, finding a way to cast every story as a bad move by a Bad Orange Man. Even threads where the President isn't a part of the story.
Counterpart? I prefer "alter ego". lol
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Counterpart? I prefer "alter ego". lol
You say Toe-MAY-Toe, I say Toe-MAH-toe..... 888mouth
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If 45 says he was never told, then dadgummit, that's good enough for me [slaps knee].
Much like Elizabeth Proctor, 45 hath never lied. tri22
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If 45 says he was never told, then dadgummit, that's good enough for me [slaps knee].
Much like Elizabeth Proctor, 45 hath never lied. tri22
Whether "Trump was told" or not is far afield right now, because if it was one of the thousands of BS leads, it would not be expected to be in the reports. To my pointy head, the bigger problem is how it got leaked?
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Whether "Trump was told" or not is far afield right now, because if it was one of the thousands of BS leads, it would not be expected to be in the reports. To my pointy head, the bigger problem is how it got leaked?
The anti-Trumpers couldn't care LESS how it got leaked. They're just gleeful that it did. 888mouth
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Whether "Trump was told" or not is far afield right now, because if it was one of the thousands of BS leads, it would not be expected to be in the reports. To my pointy head, the bigger problem is how it got leaked?
Why it was leaked goes more to the core of the problem polluting the administration, partisan democrat subversion.
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@XenaLee
Corrected
Intellectual honesty is intellectual honesty. Propaganda is propaganda. Truth is truth.
Yet we could likely find various views for who killed JFK.
Oswald, Cubans, Soviets, Mafia?
Did the US know with certainty the Japs would attack Pearl Harbor that day?
Did Nixon explicitly order/approve of the Watergate break-in?
It is usually pretty darn difficult to get agreement on "the truth"
Did Obama and or Biden explicitly order/approve Spy gate? (Jan 5, 2017 meeting)
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Yet we could likely find various views for who killed JFK.
Oswald, Cubans, Soviets, Mafia?
Did the US know with certainty the Japs would attack Pearl Harbor that day?
Did Nixon explicitly order/approve of the Watergate break-in?
It is usually pretty darn difficult to get agreement on "the truth"
Did Obama and or Biden explicitly order/approve Spy gate? (Jan 5, 2017 meeting)
Maybe he prefers "truth over facts?"
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Whether "Trump was told" or not is far afield right now, because if it was one of the thousands of BS leads, it would not be expected to be in the reports. To my pointy head, the bigger problem is how it got leaked?
Exactly. I thought intel briefings were classified.
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Exactly. I thought intel briefings were classified.
Wouldn't surprise me if it was Pelosi herself that leaked it.
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Wouldn't surprise me if it was Pelosi herself that leaked it.
I understand she's taken to wearing a mask lately to hide the froth around her mouth.
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I understand she's taken to wearing a mask lately to hide the froth around her mouth.
She cracks me up how her masks always seem to go perfectly with her outfit... so chic... so fashionable... while she lies out of her matching mask. :3:
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I understand she's taken to wearing a mask lately to hide the froth around her mouth.
Personally, I think she's wearing those scarves around her neck cause she's too lazy to shave her pubic hair.
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She cracks me up how her masks always seem to go perfectly with her outfit... so chic... so fashionable... while she lies out of her matching mask. :3:
Now, now, :3: is NOT what you want to do in a mask, of any kind.
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Now, now, :3: is NOT what you want to do in a mask, of any kind.
Lol!
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Personally, I think she's wearing those scarves around her neck cause she's too lazy to shave her pubic hair.
@corbe! 22222frying pan ****slapping :silly:
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Personally, I think she's wearing those scarves around her neck cause she's too lazy to shave her pubic hair.
That's a lot of face lifts....
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(http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/65500/Nancy-Pelosi-With-a-Beard--65607.jpg)
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(http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/65500/Nancy-Pelosi-With-a-Beard--65607.jpg)
:silly: :silly: :silly:
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@FeelNoPain
You said, "That Helsinki abomination was a shock to the system. Trump doesn't defer to a single soul on this planet, except Putin. Why?"
That is what I asked in different words than you, but it is the same thing. Only Putin gets a pass from Trump.
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That's a lot of face lifts....
:bigsilly:
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@FeelNoPain
You said, "That Helsinki abomination was a shock to the system. Trump doesn't defer to a single soul on this planet, except Putin. Why?"
That is what I asked in different words than you, but it is the same thing. Only Putin gets a pass from Trump.
*****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes*****
:chairbang: :chairbang: :chairbang:
Sorry...but... that's just stupid.
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@FeelNoPain
You said, "That Helsinki abomination was a shock to the system. Trump doesn't defer to a single soul on this planet, except Putin. Why?"
That is what I asked in different words than you, but it is the same thing. Only Putin gets a pass from Trump.
I definitely don't see things that way at all. My assessment is Trump keeps his ties with Putin amicable and I don't think Trump trusts him for a second. Not in the least. He knows Putin is a threat. He has kept the line of communication open in order to get to know the man better and to try to stay one step ahead of him. You know the old adage; keep your friends close and your enemies even closer.
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I definitely don't see things that way at all. My assessment is Trump keeps his ties with Putin amicable and I don't think Trump trusts him for a second. Not in the least. He knows Putin is a threat. He has kept the line of communication open in order to get to know the man better and to try to stay one step ahead of him. You know the old adage; keep your friends close and your enemies even closer.
And you know darn well... that if Trump openly insulted or created a hostile environment with Russia/Putin... these same anti-Trump bashers would be whining about that, too. They'd then claim that he was pushing us towards nuclear war. You know their game by now.....right?
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And you know darn well... that if Trump openly insulted or created a hostile environment with Russia/Putin... these same anti-Trump bashers would be whining about that, too. They'd then claim that he was pushing us towards nuclear war. You know their game by now.....right?
"And, the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back."
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And you know darn well... that if Trump openly insulted or created a hostile environment with Russia/Putin... these same anti-Trump bashers would be whining about that, too. They'd then claim that he was pushing us towards nuclear war. You know their game by now.....right?
Indeed.
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@FeelNoPain
You said, "That Helsinki abomination was a shock to the system. Trump doesn't defer to a single soul on this planet, except Putin. Why?"
That is what I asked in different words than you, but it is the same thing. Only Putin gets a pass from Trump.
@Victoria33 how exactly do you think Trump should treat Putin and what should he have done or not done??
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And you know darn well... that if Trump openly insulted or created a hostile environment with Russia/Putin... these same anti-Trump bashers would be whining about that, too. They'd then claim that he was pushing us towards nuclear war. You know their game by now.....right?
Heads I win, tails you lose. It’s been Trump’s burden to bear from the day he was elected. And remarkably after nearly four years of this shit he barely shows the strain from the hostile, ruthless treatment he’s received—and that’s just from congressional republicans. Add in the media and democrats and we’re lucky he didn’t decide one morning to open a vein instead of his eyes, which I could imagine less sturdy republicans doing sometime after losing the House. But Trump just keeps saying bring it!
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I enjoy a good rant from all sides, but when they become predictable I get bored, and that usually doesn't end well. :whistle:
@Cyber Liberty
Now, Cyber, yours are also predictable. Each member has a reason for believing as he/she does. :beer:
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@Cyber Liberty
Now, Cyber, yours are also predictable. Each member has a reason for believing as he/she does. :beer:
Well, half at least have a good reason. :whistle:
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Heads I win, tails you lose. It’s been Trump’s burden to bear from the day he was elected. And remarkably after nearly four years of this shit he barely shows the strain from the hostile, ruthless treatment he’s received—and that’s just from congressional republicans. Add in the media and democrats and we’re lucky he didn’t decide one morning to open a vein instead of his eyes, which I could imagine less sturdy republicans doing sometime after losing the House. But Trump just keeps saying bring it!
The right man at the right time for the job. I'm convinced.
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@Cyber Liberty
Now, Cyber, yours are also predictable. Each member has a reason for believing as he/she does. :beer:
A predictable Admin is GOOD! Everybody knows where they stand. happy77 :beer:
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Heads I win, tails you lose. It’s been Trump’s burden to bear from the day he was elected. And remarkably after nearly four years of this shit he barely shows the strain from the hostile, ruthless treatment he’s received—and that’s just from congressional republicans. Add in the media and democrats and we’re lucky he didn’t decide one morning to open a vein instead of his eyes, which I could imagine less sturdy republicans doing sometime after losing the House. But Trump just keeps saying bring it!
I must admit, his durability, resilience, even, is an admirable trait.
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A predictable Admin is GOOD! Everybody knows where they stand. happy77 :beer:
It means you have standards. Consistent standards. Kinda like how laws should be upheld consistently vs. merely enforcing them based on a whim-du-jour, like the left does. You don't like the laws... vote to change them. You don't like the rules or standards on a forum. Get your own forum or just leave. It ain't complicated (except to some).
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I must admit, his durability, resilience, even, is an admirable trait.
I actually think he enjoys it. Rush has referred to him as a "street brawler" on several occasions.
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I must admit, his durability, resilience, even, is an admirable trait.
Yes, this is what I think. No other President has had to endure what he endured.