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Trump proposes restricting choices for food stamp recipients
By Luis Sanchez - 02/12/18 05:28 PM EST
President Trump's new budget would severely restrict the kinds of foods that food stamp recipients could buy with the government assistance.
Recipients of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program — SNAP — receive a monthly supplement that offers help purchasing food.
But Trump's proposal would require people who receive at least $90 a month from the program to get about half of their benefits in the form of a “USDA food package,†rather than by purchasing the food themselves, NPR reported.
The proposed change would affect more than 80 percent of people enrolled in SNAP.
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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/373507-trump-proposes-restricting-choices-for-food-stamp-recipients (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/373507-trump-proposes-restricting-choices-for-food-stamp-recipients)
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The plan has already been criticized by a number of groups, with critics saying the cuts would reduce help available to the poor. Opponents of the cuts also point out that the physical delivery of the food would pose a challenge for the government.
Name the groups. I'm willing to bet they loved Michelle O's terrible school lunch program.
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Sorry if you are on Food Stamps, you should not be using it to buy steaks or lobsters. Just the basic food.
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He is right. We should go back to the days of bare essentials. Pastas, veg, affordable protein, rice and beans, basic soaps and toilet paper.
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Another supplemental idea considered in the Trump package.....
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Maybe it's just me but this is the umpteenth article since the he signed the budget last week that has 'vague sources' talking about some type of entitlement reform, red meat to his starving base.
I suspect his internal polling is bleeding profusely from another self inflected wound.
Money Talks, BS Walks.
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Maybe it's just me but this is the umpteenth article since the he signed the budget last week that has 'vague sources' talking about some type of entitlement reform, red meat to his starving base.
I suspect his internal polling is bleeding profusely from another self inflected wound.
Money Talks, BS Walks.
Exactly
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Something I have been advocating for a long long time. You could deliver the food... or do like the WIX program and give a voucher for certain items in certain quantities.
Oh, and please, anyone on a means tested bennie..... does not get to vote.
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Sorry if you are on Food Stamps, you should not be using it to buy steaks or lobsters. Just the basic food.
At least that shit is nutritious. The garbage I see losers buying with their EBT cards is insane. 10 bags of Doritos, 6 pack of Tabb and a carton of Lucky's. It's ridiculous.
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At least that shit is nutritious. The garbage I see losers buying with their EBT cards is insane. 10 bags of Doritos, 6 pack of Tabb and a carton of Lucky's. It's ridiculous.
Carton of Lucky's?? Tobacco isn't allowed?
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Anyone remember gov't handing out 5lb. blocks of cheese?
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Carton of Lucky's?? Tobacco isn't allowed?
From what I can tell, whatever they buy at a grocery store or bodega is allowed. I've never seen these dopes pull out any other cards or cash to buy their shit.
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Anyone remember gov't handing out 5lb. blocks of cheese?
Absolutely. My grandmother and bunch of neighborhood church ladies would make a day of going to get govt' cheese. It was free for old people and old people love free no matter what. It was like a social event. I also remember it tasting like shit and she didn't like cheese that much so it would get tossed in the garbage.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kv4AxmB4mLc/V6N-x9oSwII/AAAAAAAAAh4/c0tECWWRtsoKwW8QjUVY0JrfmOC2UY2-ACLcB/s1600/Government%2Bcheese.jpg)
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Absolutely. My grandmother and bunch of neighborhood church ladies would make a day of going to get govt' cheese. It was free for old people and old people love free no matter what. It was like a social event. I also remember it tasting like shit and she didn't like cheese that much so it would get tossed in the garbage.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kv4AxmB4mLc/V6N-x9oSwII/AAAAAAAAAh4/c0tECWWRtsoKwW8QjUVY0JrfmOC2UY2-ACLcB/s1600/Government%2Bcheese.jpg)
Non dairy bondo?
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The plan has already been criticized by a number of groups, with critics saying the cuts would reduce help available to the poor. Opponents of the cuts also point out that the physical delivery of the food would pose a challenge for the government.
Name the groups. I'm willing to bet they loved Michelle O's terrible school lunch program.
Speaking of Michelle, I want to hire the guy who painted her official portrait to paint my official portrait.
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Speaking of Michelle, I want to hire the guy who painted her official portrait to paint my official portrait.
She'll only paint your severed head...
http://www.wnd.com/2018/02/obama-artist-paints-black-women-holding-severed-white-heads/ (http://www.wnd.com/2018/02/obama-artist-paints-black-women-holding-severed-white-heads/)
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Sorry if you are on Food Stamps, you should not be using it to buy steaks or lobsters. Just the basic food.
My Mom worked as a supermarket cashier back in the 50s and 60s. It irritated her to no end to have to ring up an order with top of the line steaks and lobster, and in the end the customer would pay with food stamps. Meanwhile, my parents, who both worked, could only afford hamburger and tuna fish.
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Anyone remember gov't handing out 5lb. blocks of cheese?
My Dad went to one of those giveaways. Even brought home butter too. My mother told him if he brought that [expletive] home again, she was going to throw him and the butter and cheese out. The cheese was phony American cheese, but most brands like Kraft at least try to duplicate real cheese. The "cheese" Dad brought home wasn't even close. It really looked and tasted like yellow plastic. Yuk!
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From what I can tell, whatever they buy at a grocery store or bodega is allowed. I've never seen these dopes pull out any other cards or cash to buy their shit.
Yes in some small market areas I can see owners risking some deals like in the video below. I personally have never seen EBT used to buy cigs or alcohol (but have seen it used to buy the material for mixed drinks minus the alcohol).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PasuoWVhqtc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PasuoWVhqtc)
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My Dad went to one of those giveaways. Even brought home butter too. My mother told him if he brought that [expletive] home again, she was going to throw him and the butter and cheese out. The cheese was phony American cheese, but most brands like Kraft at least try to duplicate real cheese. The "cheese" Dad brought home wasn't even close. It really looked and tasted like yellow plastic. Yuk!
I remember it (cheese) as actually pretty dang good. Grandmother got it after she got cancer (early 70s).
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I think rice, beans, canned milk and some other basic items should be free (perhaps a limit on how much you can take at a time). No excuse for anyone to starve in America. No credits, no cards, no government programs, no scams. Much cheaper to administer and hunger is then a choice.
If you want something better you'll have to work for it.
Citizenship should probably be required - but that may be more expensive/complicated to enforce than it's worth. Build the damn wall.
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Another supplemental idea considered in the Trump package.....
Lol...The Big Mac BOGO program. Endorsed by President's Trump and Clinton.
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Carton of Lucky's?? Tobacco isn't allowed?
There a local stores and bodegas that will let EBTcard holders. It beer and smokes.
They just ring it up as a food item that's the same or similar price.
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At least that shit is nutritious. The garbage I see losers buying with their EBT cards is insane. 10 bags of Doritos, 6 pack of Tabb and a carton of Lucky's. It's ridiculous.
I have a feeling they are kinda overweight.
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There a local stores and bodegas that will let EBTcard holders. It beer and smokes.
They just ring it up as a food item that's the same or similar price.
Very possible and likely in small independent stores and bodegas. Chain grocery stores and stores like WalMart and Target, not likely because of the electronic cash registers.
I worked at a Weis Markets in the late 80's and if someone had WIC or was paying food stamps the system would automatically deduct non-eligible items from what could be tendered with them and then a separate balance that had to paid in cash.
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Absolutely. My grandmother and bunch of neighborhood church ladies would make a day of going to get govt' cheese. It was free for old people and old people love free no matter what. It was like a social event. I also remember it tasting like shit and she didn't like cheese that much so it would get tossed in the garbage.
My grandma would then mail it to me while I was in college.
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This is part of his negotiating style. In the beginning, always be outrageous...always overreach.
Pres. Trump's strategy seems to be to woo new Democrats with new jobs and a sense of security,...at the expense of reminding those getting food stamps that, they're on the dole.
But I'd like to think he's trying to shave some Hispanics and 'new' citizens from them, too.
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Maybe it's just me but this is the umpteenth article since the he signed the budget last week that has 'vague sources' talking about some type of entitlement reform, red meat to his starving base.
I suspect his internal polling is bleeding profusely from another self inflected wound.
Money Talks, BS Walks.
I've never thought Trump's base as "starving".
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Rule #1 - No food stamps for fat people.
(This should be obvious)
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Another supplemental idea considered in the Trump package.....
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No big fan of Trump, but I disagree with you on this...though it's not a hill to die on...lol.
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This is part of his negotiating style. In the beginning, always be outrageous...always overreach.
Pres. Trump's strategy seems to be to woo new Democrats with new jobs and a sense of security,...at the expense of reminding those getting food stamps that, they're on the dole.
But I'd like to think he's trying to shave some Hispanics and 'new' citizens from them, too.
The problem is, in this one, how is this outrageous? What he is proposing is rather mundane and actually brings us back to Bill Clinton era policies in many ways. If he uses this as a starting point, where is he meeting the dems at? (ie, if what you say is true, he would almost end up moving this to the left if he meets in the middle).
Plus, he should know now, the dems don't operate that way.
...also, while he seems to talk about this being his strategy, he really hasn't shown that to be his strategy as President.
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Maybe it's just me but this is the umpteenth article since the he signed the budget last week that has 'vague sources' talking about some type of entitlement reform, red meat to his starving base.
I suspect his internal polling is bleeding profusely from another self inflected wound.
Money Talks, BS Walks.
I just read where NPR and Big Bird won't be funded.
Still don't know about Planned Parenthood.
But, whatever, the point is that these are government funded things that irritate people.
Especially when people on food stamps buy luxury items or don't choose wisely. So, if you're on food stamps, it might actually be beneficial to have healthy stuff chosen for you.
And, yes, I think Trump is in a little trouble with his base for allowing the debt ceiling to be raised.
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Rule #1 - No food stamps for fat people.
(This should be obvious)
You're just mean.
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I just read where NPR and Big Bird won't be funded.
Big Bird will be fine. He moved from Sesame Street to Easy Street in 2015. A 5 year deal was signed with HBO. Those episodes go to PBS for free, 9 months after they've been behind a premium channel paywall. Between that and the merchandising, they can't cry poor.
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You're just mean.
Nope. Just being practical. A mean person would keep feeding addicts their drug of choice.
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It gets weirder.
I've seen convenience store owners go into my local grocery store.
They will by 2 dozen snickers bars and 2 dozen small bags of Cheetos (in one instance).
The put it on their food stamp card.
They take it back to the convenience store and resell it.
It is usually stuff like that, chips pork rinds, candy, etc...
I've seen it a few times now.
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It gets weirder.
I've seen convenience store owners go into my local grocery store.
They will by 2 dozen snickers bars and 2 dozen small bags of Cheetos (in one instance).
The put it on their food stamp card.
They take it back to the convenience store and resell it.
It is usually stuff like that, chips pork rinds, candy, etc...
I've seen it a few times now.
I have personally watch someone buy about $300 worth of groceries on their Lone Star Card, push the carts out to the parking lot and unload them into the trunk of the Cadillac being driven by the guy who owns the Chinese restaurant around the corner, take the 2 $100's the Chinese guy hands them and turn around and walk into the liquor right next door to the grocery store they had just come out of! Bellaire Blvd. Houston Texas.
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What is the monthly limit on a food stamp card for, say, a family of four?
$300 seems a little high, but I really don't know.
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What is the monthly limit on a food stamp card for, say, a family of four?
$300 seems a little high, but I really don't know.
In California, family of four would range from $810 to $949
https://ca.db101.org/ca/programs/income_support/calworks/program2b.htm
https://ca.db101.org/glossary_item.aspx?item-id=6521
In Texas, the maximum for four is $640
https://yourtexasbenefits.hhsc.texas.gov/programs/snap
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In California, family of four would range from $810 to $949
https://ca.db101.org/ca/programs/income_support/calworks/program2b.htm
https://ca.db101.org/glossary_item.aspx?item-id=6521
In Texas, the maximum for four is $640
https://yourtexasbenefits.hhsc.texas.gov/programs/snap
thanks. I looked it up myself. It is a VERY generous program. The income limits are fairly high and the food stamp amount is high also.
It definitely needs to be regulated if it is to continue. It is ripe for all the abuses mentioned here.
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What is the monthly limit on a food stamp card for, say, a family of four?
$300 seems a little high, but I really don't know.
The amount may vary by state. All I know is that whatever these beneficiaries get -- at least where I live -- it allegedly is not enough. Which is why my local school district serves breakfast, lunch and dinner to the kids -- even during the summer. That is paid for by my property taxes.
And most of these beneficiaries are getting more than one entitlement. They get food stamps or EBT, WIC (food program for mothers, babies and very small children), welfare, maybe disability, unemployment, workers' comp and who knows what all else. Plus they get groceries at the food pantry, used clothing from Goodwill and who knows how many other local government and private charitable programs.
Slackers make out like bandits. And we working stiffs and retirees are the ones getting robbed.
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Bellaire Blvd. Houston Texas.
Eldridge, south of West Airport, Sugar Land, is where I witnessed the stuff.
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What is the monthly limit on a food stamp card for, say, a family of four?
$300 seems a little high, but I really don't know.
$300 a month wouldn’t get a family of four very far in NYC.
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$300 a month wouldn’t get a family of four very far in NYC.
Maybe they should move.
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Maybe they should move.
I’m sure they’d find your neighborhood really pleasant. Shall I send the invites?
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My son used to be a cashier at Kroger.Two things about Food Stamp users.
About half bought cheap staple items. They don't get that much money in "food stamps". Many of them also had SNAP which is even more restrictive.
About half bought primarily frozen or canned meals. Although they are expensive, they are convenient and can be sold if needed. Occasionally, they would buy large amounts of the same item which looked like something you would sell(i.e. 20 packs of hot dogs). About half the food stamp users had a separate pile of alcohol or tobacco.
Fresh produce was like Kryptonite to a Food Stamp user.
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Wait until people start complaining about food allergies to the package contents. That's inevitable.
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My son used to be a cashier at Kroger.Two things about Food Stamp users.
About half bought cheap staple items. They don't get that much money in "food stamps". Many of them also had SNAP which is even more restrictive.
About half bought primarily frozen or canned meals. Although they are expensive, they are convenient and can be sold if needed. Occasionally, they would buy large amounts of the same item which looked like something you would sell(i.e. 20 packs of hot dogs). About half the food stamp users had a separate pile of alcohol or tobacco.
Fresh produce was like Kryptonite to a Food Stamp user.
The Kroger we shop at is right on the line between the expensive and poor areas of town (3 block difference between half million dollar homes and 80K homes). It is a regular event to see someone piling up their cart with junk food, steaks, and such. And 9 times out of ten, you can predict when their cart looks like that, they are paying with a Lone Star Card- sometimes one person will pay with 2-3 of them.
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I was standing in line behind a woman who was purchasing candy with her SNAP card. She was complaining because the store tacked on sales tax with the purchase. She insisted that food stamp purchases weren't taxed, but the store insisted that it did not include candy. After a few minutes of haggling with the cashier, I finally chimed in, "What's it matter to you? I'm the one paying it."
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The amount may vary by state. All I know is that whatever these beneficiaries get -- at least where I live -- it allegedly is not enough. Which is why my local school district serves breakfast, lunch and dinner to the kids -- even during the summer. That is paid for by my property taxes.
And most of these beneficiaries are getting more than one entitlement. They get food stamps or EBT, WIC (food program for mothers, babies and very small children), welfare, maybe disability, unemployment, workers' comp and who knows what all else. Plus they get groceries at the food pantry, used clothing from Goodwill and who knows how many other local government and private charitable programs.
Slackers make out like bandits. And we working stiffs and retirees are the ones getting robbed.
You are right. I believe in a little compassion but we are making it far too easy and attractive to be a slacker.
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The amount may vary by state. All I know is that whatever these beneficiaries get -- at least where I live -- it allegedly is not enough. Which is why my local school district serves breakfast, lunch and dinner to the kids -- even during the summer. That is paid for by my property taxes.
And most of these beneficiaries are getting more than one entitlement. They get food stamps or EBT, WIC (food program for mothers, babies and very small children), welfare, maybe disability, unemployment, workers' comp and who knows what all else. Plus they get groceries at the food pantry, used clothing from Goodwill and who knows how many other local government and private charitable programs.
Slackers make out like bandits. And we working stiffs and retirees are the ones getting robbed.
Our school system as well entitles every student to FREE breakfast and lunch. However, breakfast consists of usually a pop tart or granola bar and milk and a gogurt. I think its really a crappy breakfast but to most of these kids it's all they get. Lunch usually consists of something like pizza, or popcorn chicken, veg or salad, fruit and milk. The portions are very small. The same lunch is fed to ALL county students regardless of age.
As for the SNAP program, if you think about it $600 for a family of 4 isn't overly generous. Grocery prices where I live are astronomical. That's about how much I easily spend for just my husband and myself in a month! Fresh fruit, vegs and half way decent meat and deli meats and cheeses is expensive.