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Title: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Body Ar
Post by: Bigun on August 09, 2019, 02:48:06 am
BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Body Armor

By RYAN SAAVEDRA Augjts 8, 2019

An off-duty firefighter who had a firearm with him stopped a potential attack from taking place at a Walmart in Missouri after a 20-year-old man showed up to the store with a rifle, body armor, and over 100 rounds of ammunition.

"His intent was not to cause peace or comfort to anybody that was in the business," Lt. Mike Lucas with the Springfield Police Department said. "In fact, he’s lucky to be alive still to be honest."

Although it's not yet clear what the man's intent was, Lucas said: "We definitely have some crimes here."...

https://www.dailywire.com/news/50424/breaking-good-guy-gun-stops-potential-attack-ryan-saavedra? (https://www.dailywire.com/news/50424/breaking-good-guy-gun-stops-potential-attack-ryan-saavedra?)
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Body Ar
Post by: Bigun on August 09, 2019, 02:48:51 am
I'm sure we will be reading and hearing all about this for days to come.  /s
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Body Ar
Post by: Wingnut on August 09, 2019, 02:54:02 am
Okay I am having problems with this one.  Why did this guy not start shooting when he came in the store.  Reports say he just sauntered around the store.  Was it a show, and act, a d-bag being stupid?
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Body Ar
Post by: austingirl on August 09, 2019, 03:07:38 am
A third Antifa attack? :pondering:
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Body Ar
Post by: Wingnut on August 09, 2019, 03:11:19 am
A third Antifa attack? :pondering:

Prolly not based on reports.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Body Ar
Post by: Victoria33 on August 09, 2019, 03:33:36 am
Okay I am having problems with this one.  Why did this guy not start shooting when he came in the store.  Reports say he just sauntered around the store.  Was it a show, and act, a d-bag being stupid?
@The Ghost

The law officer said the guy is lucky to still be alive.
I would not be surprised if the firefighter had wounded him, such as shoot him in the leg to get him down on the ground and the weapons off him. 
The question is, what would have happened if the firefighter had not been there?
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Body Ar
Post by: Wingnut on August 09, 2019, 03:39:58 am
@The Ghost

The law officer said the guy is lucky to still be alive.
I would not be surprised if the firefighter had wounded him, such as shoot him in the leg to get him down on the ground and the weapons off him. 
The question is, what would have happened if the firefighter had not been there?
@Victoria33
It is to early to surmise.  Something smells about this.  He walked tru the store and never fired a shot. 
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Body Ar
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on August 09, 2019, 04:03:53 am
Okay I am having problems with this one.  Why did this guy not start shooting when he came in the store.  Reports say he just sauntered around the store.  Was it a show, and act, a d-bag being stupid?

Looking for someone in particular.

Waiting for the acid to kick in.

Maybe both.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Body Ar
Post by: mystery-ak on August 09, 2019, 12:35:57 pm
 By Ryan Saavedra
@realsaavedra
August 8, 2019

An off-duty firefighter who had a firearm with him stopped a potential attack from taking place at a Walmart in Missouri after a 20-year-old man showed up to the store with a rifle, body armor, and over 100 rounds of ammunition.

"His intent was not to cause peace or comfort to anybody that was in the business," Lt. Mike Lucas with the Springfield Police Department said. "In fact, he’s lucky to be alive still to be honest."

Although it's not yet clear what the man's intent was, Lucas said, "We definitely have some crimes here."

Lucas said that there may have been a Facebook Live posted by the suspect and that law enforcement officials are conducting an investigation and looking through the suspect's social media.

KOLR news anchor tweeted "20-year-old man with rifle, handgun & body armor arrested at Walmart on Republic. SFD Police say he had 100+ rounds of ammunition. Off-duty firefighter with concealed carry gun held him at gunpoint until officers arrived about 3 minutes later"

more
https://www.dailywire.com/news/50424/breaking-good-guy-gun-stops-potential-attack-ryan-saavedra (https://www.dailywire.com/news/50424/breaking-good-guy-gun-stops-potential-attack-ryan-saavedra)
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Body Ar
Post by: mountaineer on August 09, 2019, 12:39:59 pm
After reading this story last night, I pondered what I would do. What if, when I go to the grocery store this morning, a gun-laden young man walks through the entrance ahead of me? Do I have the courage to do anything about it?
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: Mod1 on August 09, 2019, 12:42:07 pm
Threads merged.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: mountaineer on August 09, 2019, 12:56:59 pm
Man in body armor and armed with rifle sparks panic at Missouri Walmart
The man in his 20s was reportedly walking around armed and recording video. Though there was no shooting, it caused a panic days after two mass shootings.
Aug. 9, 2019, 5:03 AM EDT / Updated Aug. 9, 2019, 8:48 AM EDT
By Phil Helsel and Suzanne Ciechalski
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The armed man who walked into a Missouri Walmart store dressed in body armor and fatigues and was detained at gunpoint by an off-duty firefighter is "lucky he's alive still" considering the situation he created, a police official said.

No shots were fired in the incident that happened just after 4 p.m. Thursday in Springfield, Missouri, a city of around 160,000 in the southwestern part of the state, officials said.

The man who is said to be white and in his 20s was detained by the armed firefighter until police arrived at the Walmart Neighborhood Market, police said in a statement. The man in body armor had been seen pushing a shopping cart and recording video of himself on a cellphone, police told NBC affiliate KYTV.  ...
(https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_32/2965406/190809-dmitriy-andreychenko-al-0746_ad6c09ffafc780f31716a4234eea9e52.fit-360w.jpg)

Though police did not name the person, police and online jail records indicate Dmitriy Andreychenko, 20, had been arrested.  ...
More at NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-body-armor-armed-rifle-sparks-panic-missouri-walmart-n1040676)

From the perp's Facebook profile (https://www.facebook.com/dmitriy.andreychenko.92):
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Studied EMS/EMT at Ozarks Technical Community College
Went to Gresham High School
Lives in Springfield, Missouri
From Portland, Oregon
Married to Angelica Andreychenko

His Instagram profile (https://www.instagram.com/dmitriya16/?hl=en):
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dmitriya16

    416 posts
    346 followers
    327 following

Dima Chenko
Love my God 🌎
Love my wife 🤰🏽
Love my guns 🔫
Romans 1:16 📖
⚔️ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ⚔️
Pictures of him shooting, hunting, fishing, etc., at Instagram.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: mystery-ak on August 09, 2019, 12:57:58 pm
Aug 5....missed this

Walmart employee's son, 31, called in threat to 'shoot up' store, prompting evacuation, authorities say
https://www.foxnews.com/us/walmart-florida-evacuation (https://www.foxnews.com/us/walmart-florida-evacuation)
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: Bigun on August 09, 2019, 01:13:59 pm
After reading this story last night, I pondered what I would do. What if, when I go to the grocery store this morning, a gun-laden young man walks through the entrance ahead of me? Do I have the courage to do anything about it?

I've been thinking about that since the Walmart incident in El Paso and would like to think I would have followed him until he made any kind of move to use his weapons before I capped him.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: Applewood on August 09, 2019, 01:30:09 pm
Okay I am having problems with this one.  Why did this guy not start shooting when he came in the store.  Reports say he just sauntered around the store.  Was it a show, and act, a d-bag being stupid?


I was going to guess, being young, and stupid, not a trained terrorist, he hesitated, maybe got cold feet, perhaps having trouble finding the right spot to start firing (for maximum effect). 
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: verga on August 09, 2019, 01:35:55 pm
I've been thinking about that since the Walmart incident in El Paso and would like to think I would have followed him until he made any kind of move to use his weapons before I capped him.
I have thought about that over the last several years. This summer at Scout camp I got a partial answer, while not identical, similar.
Over the last several years we have had a problem with bears in and around the camp area.This summer I got a call over the walkie talkie that a bear was seen near one of the scout groups. I jumped into my mini Dune buggy to go after the bear with out even thinking. The Camp director called me back, he had grabbed his Kimber .380 and we went after it. He told me that from then on he wanted me on Camp carrying because of this or an active shooter. about a week later we got another call this time I had my Ruger Security 9 9mm with me. We were able to chase the bear off using our vehicles and no shots were fired.
The thing is the first time I just went into action on autopilot, no firearm in a vehicle that weighed less than the bear.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: Applewood on August 10, 2019, 03:42:28 am
And then there's this:

Armed man at Walmart says he was testing right to bear arms

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SPRINGFIELD, Mo. (AP) — Prosecutors on Friday filed a terrorist threat charge against a 20-year-old man who said he walked into a Missouri store wearing body armor and carrying a loaded rifle and handgun to test whether Walmart would honor his constitutional right to bear arms.

The incident, just days after 22 people were killed during an attack at another Walmart in El Paso, Texas, caused a panic at the Springfield, Missouri, store. Dmitriy Andreychenko walked through filming himself with his cell phone Thursday afternoon.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/armed-man-at-walmart-says-he-was-testing-right-to-bear-arms/ar-AAFxBg0?ocid=spartandhp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/armed-man-at-walmart-says-he-was-testing-right-to-bear-arms/ar-AAFxBg0?ocid=spartandhp)


Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: NavyCanDo on August 10, 2019, 05:19:48 am
He claims he was exercising his 2nd amendment rights with this display of idiocy. Like those who showed up at Stabucks with ARs just to prove they could. A responsible gun owner NEVER causes alarm of citizens they encounter. If that is what he was doing he caused nothing but harm to the cause he claims to support.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 10, 2019, 07:18:16 am
He claims he was exercising his 2nd amendment rights with this display of idiocy. Like those who showed up at Stabucks with ARs just to prove they could. A responsible gun owner NEVER causes alarm of citizens they encounter. If that is what he was doing he caused nothing but harm to the cause he claims to support.
Yep. WHile I can understand that people panic at the sight of firearms mainly because they are not used to seeing them, this just wasn't the week to walk around wearing body armor with a rifle in Walmart.

Not helpful at all.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: Applewood on August 10, 2019, 12:50:32 pm
Guys, I don't buy this story and I don't think the authorities do either.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: Wingnut on August 10, 2019, 12:55:17 pm
Guys, I don't buy this story and I don't think the authorities do either.

Well, if true, It confirms my earlier post on the subject.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: Applewood on August 10, 2019, 01:10:14 pm
I'm sure we will be reading and hearing all about this for days to come.  /s

Finally watched the reporting on tv yesterday (ABC Evening News).  The news reader waited till almost the end of the story to reluctantly mention the off-duty fireman.  I guess that part didn't fit in with the official anti-gun narrative.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: mountaineer on August 10, 2019, 01:12:03 pm
He claims he was exercising his 2nd amendment rights with this display of idiocy.
Hard to say he actually committed a crime, if open carry is permissible in Missouri.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: Applewood on August 10, 2019, 01:34:42 pm
Hard to say he actually committed a crime, if open carry is permissible in Missouri.

If his story is true, he ought to be jailed for being such a *bleep.*  But I guess if it was a crime to he a *bleep,* there would be a whole lot more people in the slammer.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: mountaineer on August 10, 2019, 01:36:48 pm
A really stupid thing to do, that's for sure. I can open carry in my state, but that doesn't mean I'd sashay into a store draped in weaponry, just to prove a point.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: Bigun on August 10, 2019, 02:01:30 pm
Guys, I don't buy this story and I don't think the authorities do either.

If you mean the story about his testing his 2nd amendment rights I agree with you entirely.  Total BS IMHO.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: Applewood on August 10, 2019, 02:24:01 pm
If you mean the story about his testing his 2nd amendment rights I agree with you entirely.  Total BS IMHO.

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to his explanation of why he was at Walmart flaunting his weaponry.  Glad you agree.  Just doesn't sound right. 
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: NavyCanDo on August 10, 2019, 03:21:12 pm
Hard to say he actually committed a crime, if open carry is permissible in Missouri.

The Missouri law does allow open carry, but states unless it is done in a reckless manner or endangers the public. This stupid poorly timed act does both.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: Sanguine on August 10, 2019, 03:44:48 pm
Hard to say he actually committed a crime, if open carry is permissible in Missouri.

Real hard.  Stupid, but being stupid is not against the law.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: Wingnut on August 10, 2019, 05:14:36 pm
Real hard.  Stupid, but being stupid is not against the law.

No it is not, but it can get you killed.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Good Guy With Gun Stops Potential Attack At Walmart After Man Shows Up With Rifle, Bod
Post by: Sanguine on August 10, 2019, 05:55:42 pm
No it is not, but it can get you killed.

Yes, among other things.