If the SCF is so inconsequential, why is McConnell paying them any attention whatsoever? It sounds more like personal pique than anything else, and that's just childish.
The entire interview is just repeating his war on the TP. With more promises things will change. I am trying to be objective in wondering how many times do they think they will be given a chance by anybody? Even if they were to be given the break McConnell asks for in the article, because Obama is so partisan... Their colors come shining through in putting forth McCains for the POTUS nominee. It is like they want to fail. Fine, that they are established moderates but they must address their move to the left. McCain was sounding like a Crist there for awhile. We can't be fooled again. Stop calling conservatives wacko birds and give them prominent positions in the old guard!
Kibbe also lashed out at Senate Minority Whip John Cornyn for not standing up for conservative issues. The FreedomWorks president said his group is closely watching the Texas primary where Steve Stockman is challenging Cornyn.
"We're waiting to see how that primary works out because there's other challengers to John Cornyn as well," he said.
In response to the Bevin endorsement, McConnell spokeswoman Allison Moore told the Courier-Journal: "Freedomworks was a constructive partner in the conservative movement and had been supportive of Senator McConnell's efforts to stop Obamacare and protect the First Amendment when many organizations were afraid to speak out, but internal problems unfortunately have changed their focus from conservative reform to conservative cannibalism in order to pay the bills.
"So, today, instead of standing with Kentucky conservatives, a group that used to pride itself on grassroots empowerment has endorsed a self-funding New England millionaire who takes taxpayer bailouts and falsely claims he attended MIT," Moore said in a statement.
“It was very evident to everyone in the room that Cruz doesn’t have a strategy – he never had a strategy, and could never answer a question about what the end-game was,” said one senator who attended the meeting. “I just wish the 35 House members that have bought the snake oil that was sold could witness what was witnessed today at lunch.”
Cruz did rake in the cash, ringing up nearly $800,000 in the third quarter through his joint fundraising committee, according to Federal Election Commission records. His overall haul for the quarter that ended Sept. 30 was $1.19 million, according to multiple reports.
Both Cruz and Sen. Mike Lee of Utah, Cruz’s compatriot in the anti-Obamacare fight, spoke up at the closed-door party meeting on Wednesday morning at which leaders unveiled the details of the agreement. The two senators said they would not object to swift consideration of the deal but said little otherwise, according to sources.
Lee kept a much lower profile on Wednesday. He did not immediately issue a statement on the agreement negotiated between Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and he was barely spotted by reporters roaming Capitol Hill. He delivered a floor speech early Wednesday evening, saying “it’s always worth it to do the right thing.”
“Fighting against an abusive government in defense of protecting the individual rights of the American people is always the right thing,” Lee said. “Some say we shouldn’t have fought because we couldn’t win, but this country wasn’t built by fighting only when victory was absolutely certain.”
This country certainly wasn't built by fighting battles we knew we couldn't win.
9999what I seem to remember reading about a little squabble with the British empire.
I'm guessing you'd have been right there with the political class calling for the status quo because they were convinced the US would be fighting battles they couldn't win. **nononono*
9999what I seem to remember reading about a little squabble with the British empire.
I'm guessing you'd have been right there with the political class calling for the status quo because they were convinced the US would be fighting battles they couldn't win. **nononono*
When you dare to stand up to the establishment, the odds are almost always against you. We would never have revolutions if people refused to engage in battles they had a slim chance to win.
:patriot:
There are several reasons for the decline of Tea Party favorable, and increases in unfavorable. Among them:
No central organization. Too many lousy candidates. Probably a shortage of money.
Original popular message on fiscal sanity has drifted to now instead be attacks on other Republicans, and unpopular social positions of the lousy candidates. Akins, Angle, Buck, Cuccinelli, Mourdock, O'Donnel ALL oppose abortions in cases of rape, for example. That is an extremely unpopular position, and TP candidates expressing this view will probably lose in anything but the deepest Bible Belt areas.
It is too bad such a good idea has devolved into today's cries of victimhood, conspiracies, etc. to gloss over the failures to gain traction and grow instead of shrink.
Had they picked good candidates, and stayed on message they would be more influential and successful.
| Rank by age [/t] Senator State Date of birth Date of taking office Age at taking office Length of Senate term to date Current age Party 1 Dianne Feinstein California June 22, 1933 November 10, 1992 59 years, 141 days 21 years, 126 days 80 years, 267 days Democratic 2 Chuck Grassley Iowa September 17, 1933 January 3, 1981 47 years, 108 days 33 years, 72 days 80 years, 180 days Republican 3 Orrin Hatch Utah March 22, 1934 January 3, 1977 42 years, 287 days 37 years, 72 days 79 years, 359 days Republican 4 Richard Shelby Alabama May 6, 1934 January 3, 1987 52 years, 242 days 27 years, 72 days 79 years, 314 days Republican 5 Carl Levin Michigan June 28, 1934 January 3, 1979 44 years, 189 days 35 years, 72 days 79 years, 261 days Democratic 6 Jim Inhofe Oklahoma November 17, 1934 November 17, 1994 60 years, 0 days 19 years, 119 days 79 years, 119 days Republican 7 Pat Roberts Kansas April 20, 1936 January 3, 1997 60 years, 258 days 17 years, 72 days 77 years, 330 days Republican 8 Barbara Mikulski Maryland July 20, 1936 January 3, 1987 50 years, 167 days 27 years, 72 days 77 years, 239 days Democratic 9 John McCain Arizona August 29, 1936 January 3, 1987 50 years, 127 days 27 years, 72 days 77 years, 199 days Republican 10 Jay Rockefeller West Virginia June 18, 1937 January 15, 1985 47 years, 211 days 29 years, 60 days 76 years, 271 days Democratic 11 Thad Cochran Mississippi December 7, 1937 December 27, 1978 41 years, 20 days 35 years, 79 days 76 years, 99 days Republican 12 Tom Harkin Iowa November 19, 1939 January 3, 1985 45 years, 45 days 29 years, 72 days 74 years, 117 days Democratic 13 Harry Reid Nevada December 2, 1939 January 3, 1987 47 years, 32 days 27 years, 72 days 74 years, 104 days Democratic 14 Patrick Leahy Vermont March 31, 1940 January 3, 1975 34 years, 278 days 39 years, 72 days 73 years, 350 days Democratic 15 Lamar Alexander Tennessee July 3, 1940 January 3, 2003 62 years, 184 days 11 years, 72 days 73 years, 256 days Republican 16 Barbara Boxer California November 11, 1940 January 3, 1993 52 years, 53 days 21 years, 72 days 73 years, 125 days Democratic 17 Bernie Sanders Vermont September 8, 1941 January 3, 2007 65 years, 117 days 7 years, 72 days 72 years, 189 days Independent[1] 18 Mitch McConnell Kentucky February 20, 1942 January 3, 1985 42 years, 318 days 29 years, 72 days 72 years, 24 days Republican 19 Bill Nelson Florida September 29, 1942 January 3, 2001 58 years, 96 days 13 years, 72 days 71 years, 168 days Democratic 20 Jim Risch Idaho May 3, 1943 January 3, 2009 65 years, 245 days 5 years, 72 days 70 years, 317 days Republican 21 Dan Coats Indiana May 16, 1943 January 3, 2011 67 years, 232 days 3 years, 72 days 70 years, 304 days Republican 22 Ben Cardin Maryland October 5, 1943 January 3, 2007 63 years, 90 days 7 years, 72 days 70 years, 162 days Democratic 23 Saxby Chambliss Georgia November 10, 1943 January 3, 2003 59 years, 54 days 11 years, 72 days 70 years, 126 days Republican 24 Mike Enzi Wyoming February 1, 1944 January 3, 1997 52 years, 337 days 17 years, 72 days 70 years, 43 days Republican 25 Angus King Maine March 31, 1944 January 3, 2013 68 years, 278 days 1 year, 72 days 69 years, 350 days Independent[1] 26 Dick Durbin Illinois November 21, 1944 January 3, 1997 52 years, 43 days 17 years, 72 days 69 years, 115 days Democratic 27 Johnny Isakson Georgia December 28, 1944 January 3, 2005 60 years, 6 days 9 years, 72 days 69 years, 78 days Republican 28 Richard Blumenthal Connecticut February 13, 1946 January 3, 2011 64 years, 324 days 3 years, 72 days 68 years, 31 days Democratic 29 Ed Markey Massachusetts July 11, 1946 July 16, 2013 67 years, 5 days 0 years, 243 days 67 years, 248 days Democratic 30 Jeff Sessions Alabama December 24, 1946 January 3, 1997 50 years, 10 days 17 years, 72 days 67 years, 82 days Republican 31 Tim Johnson South Dakota December 28, 1946 January 3, 1997 50 years, 6 days 17 years, 72 days 67 years, 78 days Democratic 32 Tom Carper Delaware January 23, 1947 January 3, 2001 53 years, 346 days 13 years, 72 days 67 years, 52 days Democratic 33 Jeanne Shaheen New Hampshire January 28, 1947 January 3, 2009 61 years, 341 days 5 years, 72 days 67 years, 47 days Democratic 34 Joe Manchin West Virginia August 24, 1947 November 15, 2010 63 years, 83 days 3 years, 121 days 66 years, 204 days Democratic 35 Mazie Hirono Hawaii November 3, 1947 January 3, 2013 65 years, 61 days 1 year, 72 days 66 years, 133 days Democratic 36 Tom Coburn Oklahoma March 14, 1948 January 3, 2005 56 years, 295 days 9 years, 72 days 66 years, 2 days Republican 37 Tom Udall New Mexico May 18, 1948 January 3, 2009 60 years, 230 days 5 years, 72 days 65 years, 302 days Democratic 38 Ron Wyden Oregon May 3, 1949 February 6, 1996 46 years, 279 days 18 years, 38 days 64 years, 317 days Democratic 39 Elizabeth Warren Massachusetts June 22, 1949 January 3, 2013 63 years, 195 days 1 year, 72 days 64 years, 267 days Democratic 40 Jack Reed Rhode Island November 12, 1949 January 3, 1997 47 years, 52 days 17 years, 72 days 64 years, 124 days Democratic 41 Roy Blunt Missouri January 10, 1950 January 3, 2011 60 years, 358 days 3 years, 72 days 64 years, 65 days Republican 42 Debbie Stabenow Michigan April 29, 1950 January 3, 2001 50 years, 249 days 13 years, 72 days 63 years, 321 days Democratic 43 Mike Johanns Nebraska June 18, 1950 January 3, 2009 58 years, 199 days 5 years, 72 days 63 years, 271 days Republican 44 Mark Udall Colorado July 18, 1950 January 3, 2009 58 years, 169 days 5 years, 72 days 63 years, 241 days Democratic 45 Patty Murray Washington October 11, 1950 January 3, 1993 42 years, 84 days 21 years, 72 days 63 years, 156 days Democratic 46 Chuck Schumer New York November 23, 1950 January 3, 1999 48 years, 41 days 15 years, 72 days 63 years, 113 days Democratic 47 John Boozman Arkansas December 10, 1950 January 3, 2011 60 years, 24 days 3 years, 72 days 63 years, 96 days Republican 48 Deb Fischer Nebraska March 1, 1951 January 3, 2013 61 years, 308 days 1 year, 72 days 63 years, 15 days Republican 49 Mike Crapo Idaho May 20, 1951 January 3, 1999 47 years, 228 days 15 years, 72 days 62 years, 300 days Republican 50 Al Franken Minnesota May 21, 1951 July 7, 2009 58 years, 47 days 4 years, 252 days 62 years, 299 days Democratic 51 Roger Wicker Mississippi July 5, 1951 December 31, 2007 56 years, 179 days 6 years, 75 days 62 years, 254 days Republican 52 John Cornyn Texas February 2, 1952 December 1, 2002 50 years, 302 days 11 years, 105 days 62 years, 42 days Republican 53 John Barrasso Wyoming July 21, 1952 June 25, 2007 54 years, 339 days 6 years, 264 days 61 years, 238 days Republican 54 Bob Corker Tennessee August 24, 1952 January 3, 2007 54 years, 132 days 7 years, 72 days 61 years, 204 days Republican 55 Sherrod Brown Ohio November 9, 1952 January 3, 2007 54 years, 55 days 7 years, 72 days 61 years, 127 days Democratic 56 Susan Collins Maine December 7, 1952 January 3, 1997 44 years, 27 days 17 years, 72 days 61 years, 99 days Republican 57 Kay Hagan North Carolina May 26, 1953 January 3, 2009 55 years, 222 days 5 years, 72 days 60 years, 294 days Democratic 58 Claire McCaskill Missouri July 24, 1953 January 3, 2007 53 years, 163 days 7 years, 72 days 60 years, 235 days Democratic 59 Bob Menendez New Jersey January 1, 1954 January 18, 2006 52 years, 17 days 8 years, 57 days 60 years, 74 days Democratic 60 Jerry Moran Kansas May 29, 1954 January 3, 2011 56 years, 219 days 3 years, 72 days 59 years, 291 days Republican 61 Mark Warner Virginia December 15, 1954 January 3, 2009 54 years, 19 days 5 years, 72 days 59 years, 91 days Democratic 62 Ron Johnson Wisconsin April 8, 1955 January 3, 2011 55 years, 270 days 3 years, 72 days 58 years, 342 days Republican 63 Lindsey Graham South Carolina July 9, 1955 January 3, 2003 47 years, 178 days 11 years, 72 days 58 years, 250 days Republican 64 Joe Donnelly Indiana September 29, 1955 January 3, 2013 57 years, 96 days 1 year, 72 days 58 years, 168 days Democratic 65 Sheldon Whitehouse Rhode Island October 20, 1955 January 3, 2007 51 years, 75 days 7 years, 72 days 58 years, 147 days Democratic 66 Heidi Heitkamp North Dakota October 30, 1955 January 3, 2013 57 years, 65 days 1 year, 72 days 58 years, 137 days Democratic 67 Mary Landrieu Louisiana November 23, 1955 January 3, 1997 41 years, 41 days 17 years, 72 days 58 years, 113 days Democratic 68 Richard Burr North Carolina November 30, 1955 January 3, 2005 49 years, 34 days 9 years, 72 days 58 years, 106 days Republican 69 Rob Portman Ohio December 19, 1955 January 3, 2011 55 years, 15 days 3 years, 72 days 58 years, 87 days Republican 70 Jon Tester Montana August 21, 1956 January 3, 2007 50 years, 135 days 7 years, 72 days 57 years, 207 days Democratic 71 Jeff Merkley Oregon October 24, 1956 January 3, 2009 52 years, 71 days 5 years, 72 days 57 years, 143 days Democratic 72 John Hoeven North Dakota March 13, 1957 January 3, 2011 53 years, 296 days 3 years, 72 days 57 years, 3 days Republican 73 Lisa Murkowski Alaska May 22, 1957 December 20, 2002 45 years, 212 days 11 years, 86 days 56 years, 298 days Republican 74 Tim Kaine Virginia February 26, 1958 January 3, 2013 54 years, 312 days 1 year, 72 days 56 years, 18 days Democratic 75 Maria Cantwell Washington October 13, 1958 January 3, 2001 42 years, 82 days 13 years, 72 days 55 years, 154 days Democratic 76 Mark Kirk Illinois September 15, 1959 November 29, 2010 51 years, 75 days 3 years, 107 days 54 years, 182 days Republican 77 Bob Casey, Jr. Pennsylvania April 13, 1960 January 3, 2007 46 years, 265 days 7 years, 72 days 53 years, 337 days Democratic 78 Dean Heller Nevada May 10, 1960 May 9, 2011 50 years, 364 days 2 years, 311 days 53 years, 310 days Republican 79 Amy Klobuchar Minnesota May 25, 1960 January 3, 2007 46 years, 223 days 7 years, 72 days 53 years, 295 days Democratic 80 John Walsh Montana November 3, 1960 February 9, 2014 53 years, 98 days 0 years, 35 days 53 years, 133 days Democratic 81 John Thune South Dakota January 7, 1961 January 3, 2005 43 years, 362 days 9 years, 72 days 53 years, 68 days Republican 82 David Vitter Louisiana May 3, 1961 January 3, 2005 43 years, 245 days 9 years, 72 days 52 years, 317 days Republican 83 Pat Toomey Pennsylvania November 17, 1961 January 3, 2011 49 years, 47 days 3 years, 72 days 52 years, 119 days Republican 84 Tammy Baldwin Wisconsin February 11, 1962 January 3, 2013 50 years, 327 days 1 year, 72 days 52 years, 33 days Democratic 85 Mark Begich Alaska March 30, 1962 January 3, 2009 46 years, 279 days 5 years, 72 days 51 years, 351 days Democratic 86 Jeff Flake Arizona December 31, 1962 January 3, 2013 50 years, 3 days 1 year, 72 days 51 years, 75 days Republican 87 Rand Paul Kentucky January 7, 1963 January 3, 2011 47 years, 361 days 3 years, 72 days 51 years, 68 days Republican 88 Mark Pryor Arkansas January 10, 1963 January 3, 2003 39 years, 358 days 11 years, 72 days 51 years, 65 days Democratic 89 Chris Coons Delaware September 9, 1963 November 15, 2010 47 years, 67 days 3 years, 121 days 50 years, 188 days Democratic 90 Michael Bennet Colorado November 28, 1964 January 21, 2009 44 years, 54 days 5 years, 54 days 49 years, 108 days Democratic 91 Tim Scott South Carolina September 19, 1965 January 2, 2013 47 years, 105 days 1 year, 73 days 48 years, 178 days Republican 92 Kirsten Gillibrand New York December 9, 1966 January 26, 2009 42 years, 48 days 5 years, 49 days 47 years, 97 days Democratic 93 Kelly Ayotte New Hampshire June 27, 1968 January 3, 2011 42 years, 190 days 3 years, 72 days 45 years, 262 days Republican 94 Cory Booker New Jersey April 27, 1969 October 31, 2013 44 years, 187 days 0 years, 136 days 44 years, 323 days Democratic 95 Ted Cruz Texas December 22, 1970 January 3, 2013 42 years, 12 days 1 year, 72 days 43 years, 84 days Republican 96 Marco Rubio Florida May 28, 1971 January 3, 2011 39 years, 220 days 3 years, 72 days 42 years, 292 days Republican 97 Mike Lee Utah June 4, 1971 January 3, 2011 39 years, 213 days 3 years, 72 days 42 years, 285 days Republican 98 Martin Heinrich New Mexico October 17, 1971 January 3, 2013 41 years, 78 days 1 year, 72 days 42 years, 150 days Democratic 99 Brian Schatz Hawaii October 20, 1972 December 26, 2012 40 years, 67 days 1 year, 80 days 41 years, 147 days Democratic 100 Chris Murphy Connecticut August 3, 1973 January 3, 2013 39 years, 153 days 1 year, 72 days 40 years, 225 days Democratic |
Term Limits now. Age Limits now. If you are freakin' 81 years old, for Christ's sake, it is time to give it up, no matter how much money you are making. What are you going to do with millions in kick backs anyway, if you are over 80? It is not like you are going to go skiing in Aspen, or buy hookers in Vegas. Why? Why do you need more.
To me this represents a kind of 'pure greed'. It is just gripping on to money and power for no reason, just for the sake of it, just for the pure lust and greed of it. These people are truely evil.
Spoken like a class-warfare Democrat.
Who the hell are YOU to tell voters they can't have represent them the Senator they WANT to represent them?
As long as they are "bringing home the pork" everyone loves their own Congress Critter, but you ask most people and they will agree that there should be term limits.
The Tea Party may lose influence as a concrete organization.Hmmmm...where are the TEA PARTY Headquarters located? Who is Chairman of the TEA PARTY? Do you have a number for the main switchboard?
The Tea Party spirit however, will never die. Not until America dies with them.
25% of all senators are 70 or older with 10% over 75.
66% or two thirds of all senators are 60 or over.
When is enough, enough? When are we going to clean house and get people in Congress who represent the 21st century instead of these hippies who are still stuck in the 60s?
Term Limits now. Age Limits now. If you are freakin' 81 years old, for Christ's sake, it is time to give it up, no matter how much money you are making. What are you going to do with millions in kick backs anyway, if you are over 80? It is not like you are going to go skiing in Aspen, or buy hookers in Vegas. Why? Why do you need more.
To me this represents a kind of 'pure greed'. It is just gripping on to money and power for no reason, just for the sake of it, just for the pure lust and greed of it. These people are truely evil.
We have to, we must find a way to get rid of them. My understanding of the founding documents is that there never was a thought of a 'professional politician', a politician 'for life', or the establishment of a permanent 'ruling class'. This is ridiculous. We have to clean house and get rid of these government parasites.
Rank
by age
[/t] Senator
State
Date of birth
Date of
taking office Age at
taking office Length of Senate
term to date Current age
Party 1 Dianne Feinstein California June 22, 1933 November 10, 1992 59 years, 141 days 21 years, 126 days 80 years, 267 days Democratic 2 Chuck Grassley Iowa September 17, 1933 January 3, 1981 47 years, 108 days 33 years, 72 days 80 years, 180 days Republican 3 Orrin Hatch Utah March 22, 1934 January 3, 1977 42 years, 287 days 37 years, 72 days 79 years, 359 days Republican 4 Richard Shelby Alabama May 6, 1934 January 3, 1987 52 years, 242 days 27 years, 72 days 79 years, 314 days Republican 5 Carl Levin Michigan June 28, 1934 January 3, 1979 44 years, 189 days 35 years, 72 days 79 years, 261 days Democratic 6 Jim Inhofe Oklahoma November 17, 1934 November 17, 1994 60 years, 0 days 19 years, 119 days 79 years, 119 days Republican 7 Pat Roberts Kansas April 20, 1936 January 3, 1997 60 years, 258 days 17 years, 72 days 77 years, 330 days Republican 8 Barbara Mikulski Maryland July 20, 1936 January 3, 1987 50 years, 167 days 27 years, 72 days 77 years, 239 days Democratic 9 John McCain Arizona August 29, 1936 January 3, 1987 50 years, 127 days 27 years, 72 days 77 years, 199 days Republican 10 Jay Rockefeller West Virginia June 18, 1937 January 15, 1985 47 years, 211 days 29 years, 60 days 76 years, 271 days Democratic 11 Thad Cochran Mississippi December 7, 1937 December 27, 1978 41 years, 20 days 35 years, 79 days 76 years, 99 days Republican 12 Tom Harkin Iowa November 19, 1939 January 3, 1985 45 years, 45 days 29 years, 72 days 74 years, 117 days Democratic 13 Harry Reid Nevada December 2, 1939 January 3, 1987 47 years, 32 days 27 years, 72 days 74 years, 104 days Democratic 14 Patrick Leahy Vermont March 31, 1940 January 3, 1975 34 years, 278 days 39 years, 72 days 73 years, 350 days Democratic 15 Lamar Alexander Tennessee July 3, 1940 January 3, 2003 62 years, 184 days 11 years, 72 days 73 years, 256 days Republican 16 Barbara Boxer California November 11, 1940 January 3, 1993 52 years, 53 days 21 years, 72 days 73 years, 125 days Democratic 17 Bernie Sanders Vermont September 8, 1941 January 3, 2007 65 years, 117 days 7 years, 72 days 72 years, 189 days Independent[1] 18 Mitch McConnell Kentucky February 20, 1942 January 3, 1985 42 years, 318 days 29 years, 72 days 72 years, 24 days Republican 19 Bill Nelson Florida September 29, 1942 January 3, 2001 58 years, 96 days 13 years, 72 days 71 years, 168 days Democratic 20 Jim Risch Idaho May 3, 1943 January 3, 2009 65 years, 245 days 5 years, 72 days 70 years, 317 days Republican 21 Dan Coats Indiana May 16, 1943 January 3, 2011 67 years, 232 days 3 years, 72 days 70 years, 304 days Republican 22 Ben Cardin Maryland October 5, 1943 January 3, 2007 63 years, 90 days 7 years, 72 days 70 years, 162 days Democratic 23 Saxby Chambliss Georgia November 10, 1943 January 3, 2003 59 years, 54 days 11 years, 72 days 70 years, 126 days Republican 24 Mike Enzi Wyoming February 1, 1944 January 3, 1997 52 years, 337 days 17 years, 72 days 70 years, 43 days Republican 25 Angus King Maine March 31, 1944 January 3, 2013 68 years, 278 days 1 year, 72 days 69 years, 350 days Independent[1] 26 Dick Durbin Illinois November 21, 1944 January 3, 1997 52 years, 43 days 17 years, 72 days 69 years, 115 days Democratic 27 Johnny Isakson Georgia December 28, 1944 January 3, 2005 60 years, 6 days 9 years, 72 days 69 years, 78 days Republican 28 Richard Blumenthal Connecticut February 13, 1946 January 3, 2011 64 years, 324 days 3 years, 72 days 68 years, 31 days Democratic 29 Ed Markey Massachusetts July 11, 1946 July 16, 2013 67 years, 5 days 0 years, 243 days 67 years, 248 days Democratic 30 Jeff Sessions Alabama December 24, 1946 January 3, 1997 50 years, 10 days 17 years, 72 days 67 years, 82 days Republican 31 Tim Johnson South Dakota December 28, 1946 January 3, 1997 50 years, 6 days 17 years, 72 days 67 years, 78 days Democratic 32 Tom Carper Delaware January 23, 1947 January 3, 2001 53 years, 346 days 13 years, 72 days 67 years, 52 days Democratic 33 Jeanne Shaheen New Hampshire January 28, 1947 January 3, 2009 61 years, 341 days 5 years, 72 days 67 years, 47 days Democratic 34 Joe Manchin West Virginia August 24, 1947 November 15, 2010 63 years, 83 days 3 years, 121 days 66 years, 204 days Democratic 35 Mazie Hirono Hawaii November 3, 1947 January 3, 2013 65 years, 61 days 1 year, 72 days 66 years, 133 days Democratic 36 Tom Coburn Oklahoma March 14, 1948 January 3, 2005 56 years, 295 days 9 years, 72 days 66 years, 2 days Republican 37 Tom Udall New Mexico May 18, 1948 January 3, 2009 60 years, 230 days 5 years, 72 days 65 years, 302 days Democratic 38 Ron Wyden Oregon May 3, 1949 February 6, 1996 46 years, 279 days 18 years, 38 days 64 years, 317 days Democratic 39 Elizabeth Warren Massachusetts June 22, 1949 January 3, 2013 63 years, 195 days 1 year, 72 days 64 years, 267 days Democratic 40 Jack Reed Rhode Island November 12, 1949 January 3, 1997 47 years, 52 days 17 years, 72 days 64 years, 124 days Democratic 41 Roy Blunt Missouri January 10, 1950 January 3, 2011 60 years, 358 days 3 years, 72 days 64 years, 65 days Republican 42 Debbie Stabenow Michigan April 29, 1950 January 3, 2001 50 years, 249 days 13 years, 72 days 63 years, 321 days Democratic 43 Mike Johanns Nebraska June 18, 1950 January 3, 2009 58 years, 199 days 5 years, 72 days 63 years, 271 days Republican 44 Mark Udall Colorado July 18, 1950 January 3, 2009 58 years, 169 days 5 years, 72 days 63 years, 241 days Democratic 45 Patty Murray Washington October 11, 1950 January 3, 1993 42 years, 84 days 21 years, 72 days 63 years, 156 days Democratic 46 Chuck Schumer New York November 23, 1950 January 3, 1999 48 years, 41 days 15 years, 72 days 63 years, 113 days Democratic 47 John Boozman Arkansas December 10, 1950 January 3, 2011 60 years, 24 days 3 years, 72 days 63 years, 96 days Republican 48 Deb Fischer Nebraska March 1, 1951 January 3, 2013 61 years, 308 days 1 year, 72 days 63 years, 15 days Republican 49 Mike Crapo Idaho May 20, 1951 January 3, 1999 47 years, 228 days 15 years, 72 days 62 years, 300 days Republican 50 Al Franken Minnesota May 21, 1951 July 7, 2009 58 years, 47 days 4 years, 252 days 62 years, 299 days Democratic 51 Roger Wicker Mississippi July 5, 1951 December 31, 2007 56 years, 179 days 6 years, 75 days 62 years, 254 days Republican 52 John Cornyn Texas February 2, 1952 December 1, 2002 50 years, 302 days 11 years, 105 days 62 years, 42 days Republican 53 John Barrasso Wyoming July 21, 1952 June 25, 2007 54 years, 339 days 6 years, 264 days 61 years, 238 days Republican 54 Bob Corker Tennessee August 24, 1952 January 3, 2007 54 years, 132 days 7 years, 72 days 61 years, 204 days Republican 55 Sherrod Brown Ohio November 9, 1952 January 3, 2007 54 years, 55 days 7 years, 72 days 61 years, 127 days Democratic 56 Susan Collins Maine December 7, 1952 January 3, 1997 44 years, 27 days 17 years, 72 days 61 years, 99 days Republican 57 Kay Hagan North Carolina May 26, 1953 January 3, 2009 55 years, 222 days 5 years, 72 days 60 years, 294 days Democratic 58 Claire McCaskill Missouri July 24, 1953 January 3, 2007 53 years, 163 days 7 years, 72 days 60 years, 235 days Democratic 59 Bob Menendez New Jersey January 1, 1954 January 18, 2006 52 years, 17 days 8 years, 57 days 60 years, 74 days Democratic 60 Jerry Moran Kansas May 29, 1954 January 3, 2011 56 years, 219 days 3 years, 72 days 59 years, 291 days Republican 61 Mark Warner Virginia December 15, 1954 January 3, 2009 54 years, 19 days 5 years, 72 days 59 years, 91 days Democratic 62 Ron Johnson Wisconsin April 8, 1955 January 3, 2011 55 years, 270 days 3 years, 72 days 58 years, 342 days Republican 63 Lindsey Graham South Carolina July 9, 1955 January 3, 2003 47 years, 178 days 11 years, 72 days 58 years, 250 days Republican 64 Joe Donnelly Indiana September 29, 1955 January 3, 2013 57 years, 96 days 1 year, 72 days 58 years, 168 days Democratic 65 Sheldon Whitehouse Rhode Island October 20, 1955 January 3, 2007 51 years, 75 days 7 years, 72 days 58 years, 147 days Democratic 66 Heidi Heitkamp North Dakota October 30, 1955 January 3, 2013 57 years, 65 days 1 year, 72 days 58 years, 137 days Democratic 67 Mary Landrieu Louisiana November 23, 1955 January 3, 1997 41 years, 41 days 17 years, 72 days 58 years, 113 days Democratic 68 Richard Burr North Carolina November 30, 1955 January 3, 2005 49 years, 34 days 9 years, 72 days 58 years, 106 days Republican 69 Rob Portman Ohio December 19, 1955 January 3, 2011 55 years, 15 days 3 years, 72 days 58 years, 87 days Republican 70 Jon Tester Montana August 21, 1956 January 3, 2007 50 years, 135 days 7 years, 72 days 57 years, 207 days Democratic 71 Jeff Merkley Oregon October 24, 1956 January 3, 2009 52 years, 71 days 5 years, 72 days 57 years, 143 days Democratic 72 John Hoeven North Dakota March 13, 1957 January 3, 2011 53 years, 296 days 3 years, 72 days 57 years, 3 days Republican 73 Lisa Murkowski Alaska May 22, 1957 December 20, 2002 45 years, 212 days 11 years, 86 days 56 years, 298 days Republican 74 Tim Kaine Virginia February 26, 1958 January 3, 2013 54 years, 312 days 1 year, 72 days 56 years, 18 days Democratic 75 Maria Cantwell Washington October 13, 1958 January 3, 2001 42 years, 82 days 13 years, 72 days 55 years, 154 days Democratic 76 Mark Kirk Illinois September 15, 1959 November 29, 2010 51 years, 75 days 3 years, 107 days 54 years, 182 days Republican 77 Bob Casey, Jr. Pennsylvania April 13, 1960 January 3, 2007 46 years, 265 days 7 years, 72 days 53 years, 337 days Democratic 78 Dean Heller Nevada May 10, 1960 May 9, 2011 50 years, 364 days 2 years, 311 days 53 years, 310 days Republican 79 Amy Klobuchar Minnesota May 25, 1960 January 3, 2007 46 years, 223 days 7 years, 72 days 53 years, 295 days Democratic 80 John Walsh Montana November 3, 1960 February 9, 2014 53 years, 98 days 0 years, 35 days 53 years, 133 days Democratic 81 John Thune South Dakota January 7, 1961 January 3, 2005 43 years, 362 days 9 years, 72 days 53 years, 68 days Republican 82 David Vitter Louisiana May 3, 1961 January 3, 2005 43 years, 245 days 9 years, 72 days 52 years, 317 days Republican 83 Pat Toomey Pennsylvania November 17, 1961 January 3, 2011 49 years, 47 days 3 years, 72 days 52 years, 119 days Republican 84 Tammy Baldwin Wisconsin February 11, 1962 January 3, 2013 50 years, 327 days 1 year, 72 days 52 years, 33 days Democratic 85 Mark Begich Alaska March 30, 1962 January 3, 2009 46 years, 279 days 5 years, 72 days 51 years, 351 days Democratic 86 Jeff Flake Arizona December 31, 1962 January 3, 2013 50 years, 3 days 1 year, 72 days 51 years, 75 days Republican 87 Rand Paul Kentucky January 7, 1963 January 3, 2011 47 years, 361 days 3 years, 72 days 51 years, 68 days Republican 88 Mark Pryor Arkansas January 10, 1963 January 3, 2003 39 years, 358 days 11 years, 72 days 51 years, 65 days Democratic 89 Chris Coons Delaware September 9, 1963 November 15, 2010 47 years, 67 days 3 years, 121 days 50 years, 188 days Democratic 90 Michael Bennet Colorado November 28, 1964 January 21, 2009 44 years, 54 days 5 years, 54 days 49 years, 108 days Democratic 91 Tim Scott South Carolina September 19, 1965 January 2, 2013 47 years, 105 days 1 year, 73 days 48 years, 178 days Republican 92 Kirsten Gillibrand New York December 9, 1966 January 26, 2009 42 years, 48 days 5 years, 49 days 47 years, 97 days Democratic 93 Kelly Ayotte New Hampshire June 27, 1968 January 3, 2011 42 years, 190 days 3 years, 72 days 45 years, 262 days Republican 94 Cory Booker New Jersey April 27, 1969 October 31, 2013 44 years, 187 days 0 years, 136 days 44 years, 323 days Democratic 95 Ted Cruz Texas December 22, 1970 January 3, 2013 42 years, 12 days 1 year, 72 days 43 years, 84 days Republican 96 Marco Rubio Florida May 28, 1971 January 3, 2011 39 years, 220 days 3 years, 72 days 42 years, 292 days Republican 97 Mike Lee Utah June 4, 1971 January 3, 2011 39 years, 213 days 3 years, 72 days 42 years, 285 days Republican 98 Martin Heinrich New Mexico October 17, 1971 January 3, 2013 41 years, 78 days 1 year, 72 days 42 years, 150 days Democratic 99 Brian Schatz Hawaii October 20, 1972 December 26, 2012 40 years, 67 days 1 year, 80 days 41 years, 147 days Democratic 100 Chris Murphy Connecticut August 3, 1973 January 3, 2013 39 years, 153 days 1 year, 72 days 40 years, 225 days Democratic
As long as they are "bringing home the pork" everyone loves their own Congress Critter, but you ask most people and they will agree that there should be term limits.
There never was the intent that all politicians in D.C. leave their office in a pine box. When is enough, enough?
In the words of that old hag Pelosi, they can spend time with their family, and learn to paint and write poetry. All I am saying is that it is past time to free Washington politicians from 'job-lock'.
I am only concerned about their welfare, that's all.
As I said the other day, to all of those that keep hollering for TERM LIMITS, the very best time to institute TERM LIMITS is during the PRIMARY SEASON. It's really not at all that complicated.
Does anybody seriously believe that the Career Politicians that infest Congress today will ever pass legislation to limit how long they can feed off the Public Trough? That's NOT going to happen.
Take them out with your Primary vote BEFORE the general elections. Pick them off one by one, and replace them with someone that will do the right thing.
McConnell says of the new crop of conservative candidates that he wants to “crush them everywhere.” He calls conservatives traitors, fringe, and drunk.
Mitch McConnell backed Charlie Crist against Marco Rubio.
Mitch McConnell backed Trey Grayson against Rand Paul.
Mitch McConnell backed Bob Bennett against Mike Lee.
Mitch McConnell backed David Dewhurst against Ted Cruz.
Mitch McConnell backed Arlen Specter against Pat Toomey.
It is time to back Matt Bevin against Mitch McConnell.
The problem is that the process you describe requires a well informed citizenry with critical thinking skills intact. Sadly we no longer have much of that left in most areas of the country, that's a part of why we have the mess that we do. I think that most of us would be shocked at the minuscule amount of "thought" that goes into a majority of the voters' choices, those that even bother to show up.
http://www.redstate.com/2014/03/12/judgment-and-leadership/ (http://www.redstate.com/2014/03/12/judgment-and-leadership/)
Take them out with your Primary vote BEFORE the general elections. Pick them off one by one, and replace them with someone that will do the right thing.
I seem to remember Washington retreating a lot until he had sufficient force to attack.
Here's what you're missing: he fought despite the odds .... and fought until total victory.
Now is not the time to retreat. Now is not the time to sing the praises of the GOP status quo.
THIS is the time to march on.....under bold leadership....until total victory.
One is either part of the fight or part of the problem. Now is also the time to choose.
Here's what you're missing: he fought for a goal....despite the odds. He never stopped...he fought until total victory.
Now is not the time to retreat. Now is not the time to sing the praises of the GOP status quo.
THIS is the time to march on.....under bold leadership....until total victory.
One is either part of the fight or part of the problem. Now is also the time to choose.
Like shutting down the government because Obama wouldn't agree to defund Obamacare?
Like shutting down the government because Obama wouldn't agree to defund Obamacare?
THAT kind of bold leadership? The kind of leadership that had no plan, no strategy, no fallback other than hope?
Fighting when there is no chance at victory is stupid and suicidal.
I'm still convinced that Cruz' antics served a huge purpose in keeping hope alive in many homes across America. Somebody was out there speaking and fighting against the insanity.
It's damned well appreciated. And it bears out in elections.
If he ends up like Spartacus....so be it. There's a lot of positions in a GOP administration for a person with that intensity. It'll drive the Left nuts.
Obama shut down the government. Cruz merely called his bluff. Don't forget the damage Obama (not Cruz) did when he locked elderly veterans from getting in. Or the parks he closed, among the many unnecessary closures. Obama is the one who wants to damage America. Cruz is trying to fix it.
You just go right on believing that. Most other American voters DO NOT agree with you.
Obama shut down the government. Cruz merely called his bluff. Don't forget the damage Obama (not Cruz) did when he locked elderly veterans from getting in. Or the parks he closed, among the many unnecessary closures. Obama is the one who wants to damage America. Cruz is trying to fix it.
I'm still convinced that Cruz' antics served a huge purpose in keeping hope alive in many homes across America. Somebody was out there speaking and fighting against the insanity.
It's damned well appreciated. And it bears out in elections.
If he ends up like Spartacus....so be it. There's a lot of positions in a GOP administration for a person with that intensity. It'll drive the Left nuts.
Here's what you're missing: he fought for a goal....despite the odds. He never stopped...he fought until total victory.Here is what you're missing: when Washington lost his first few battles he changed his attack plans to emulate American Indian guerrilla tactics. He was able to tell that his frontal attacks sucked.
Now is not the time to retreat. Now is not the time to sing the praises of the GOP status quo.
THIS is the time to march on.....under bold leadership....until total victory.
One is either part of the fight or part of the problem. Now is also the time to choose.
You just go right on believing that. Most other American voters DO NOT agree with you.
Oh yes, let's please argue this for the 1239876 time. Who shut down the government? How evil the tea party and Cruz is in destroying the reputations of the great almighty Mitch and Boehner. All awhile Russia threatens to nuke our dumbasses. Nothing to see here move along. Oh and Romney has a freaking horse and Christie stopped traffic.
Oh yes, let's please argue this for the 1239876 time. Who shut down the government? How evil the tea party and Cruz is in destroying the reputations of the great almighty Mitch and Boehner. All awhile Russia threatens to nuke our dumbasses. Nothing to see here move along. Oh and Romney has a freaking horse and Christie stopped traffic.
Romney has a horse?
Here is what you're missing: when Washington lost his first few battles he changed his attack plans to emulate American Indian guerrilla tactics. He was able to tell that his frontal attacks sucked.
Like shutting down the government because Obama wouldn't agree to defund Obamacare?
Fighting when there is no chance at victory is stupid and suicidal.
Washington had a goal and he had guts. As did every man who signed the Declaration of Independence. These times demand the same dedication to the same goal...and the same type of guts.
Now is the time for political action, not fear. This is the year we need to vote as though the very future of our nation hangs in the balance. The entrenched status quo is simply not good enough for the job at hand. Our voices and our votes need to be loud and clear about this.
I think you missed Once-ler's point. Yes Geo. Washington had guts, and he had a purpose that he didn't stray from, but he also had a keen sense of both tactics and strategy and was able to change his plan of attack - change the means and methods used to attain his goals - when his first approach failed to bear fruit. He also looked for friends and allies where they could be found, and made common cause with them even though there were a lot of issues that also separated Washington's troops from such people; a number of native american tribes fought with the colonists against the British (a large number also fought alongside the British).
As I read Once-ler's comment, his point is that this is where Cruz is failing: he isn't seeking to make common cause with potential friends and allies, and has instead alienated a number of people whom he could have used - that's right, I said "used", as in like tools - to give his actions greater, and more lasting, effect.
I think you missed Once-ler's point. Yes Geo. Washington had guts, and he had a purpose that he didn't stray from, but he also had a keen sense of both tactics and strategy and was able to change his plan of attack -
That is better than what I would have wrote.
Nonsense. Utter nonsense. You fight when your cause is just and the time demands it. Victory doesn't take a majority, it takes an insistent, vocal minority (who are not afraid to fight).
November will be here soon enough .... and you'll see the sleeping giants the brave souls like Cruz have woken up.
In the meantime, get a massage, clean the garage, read a good book.....do whatever helps you relax. You'll feel better in a few months. Promise.
XOXO ^-^
Here's my point: NO ONE ELSE IS FIGHTING! Tactics and strategy take a team .... and the entrenched GOP doesn't want to play the game. They're afraid and clinging to their self-made status quo. The nation be damned.Read it. Disagree.
Cruz is almost alone. And yet he soldiers on. I am one citizen thankful for his "ilk"....and pray they continue the fight. Cruz is one of the lights still shining in this dreadful darkness. God bless him.
Here's my point: NO ONE ELSE IS FIGHTING! Tactics and strategy take a team .... and the entrenched GOP doesn't want to play the game. They're afraid and clinging to their self-made status quo. The nation be damned.
Cruz is almost alone. And yet he soldiers on. I am one citizen thankful for his "ilk"....and pray they continue the fight. Cruz is one of the lights still shining in this dreadful darkness. God bless him.
You go ahead and die on that hill.
November will be good for the GOP, and it will be good because of the focus on Obamacare, NOT a fight picked over the debt ceiling.
From your lips to God's ear. I am more than a little worried that this childish bickering - from both sides - within the GOP will end up handing the democrats a miraculous set of victories in Nov.
Things will smooth out after the primaries.
Martyrdom doesn't solve much of anything, and if Cruz is ignoring those opportunities offered to him and is spurning potential allies because they aren't quite as "pure" as he'd like them to be, then he's not fighting the good fight, he's aggrandizing himself as a martyr.
Read it. Disagree.
Sweetie...you've got to get past Cruz. He's one voice ... a needed voice ... a welcomed voice. He stirs the masses, whether you like it or not. He is not the enemy.
Sweetie...you've got to get past Cruz. He's one voice ... a needed voice ... a welcomed voice. He stirs the masses, whether you like it or not. He is not the enemy.
Martyrdom doesn't solve much of anything, and if Cruz is ignoring those opportunities offered to him and is spurning potential allies because they aren't quite as "pure" as he'd like them to be, then he's not fighting the good fight, he's aggrandizing himself as a martyr.
thanks for the personal attack, and the utter failure to appreciate anything that I've posted on this conversation. To that end, since too many seem to ignore what I actually post, I'm going to put up the graphic of mine that Once-ler is getting so tired of:
Here's my point: NO ONE ELSE IS FIGHTING! Tactics and strategy take a team .... and the entrenched GOP doesn't want to play the game. They're afraid and clinging to their self-made status quo. The nation be damned.
Cruz is almost alone. And yet he soldiers on. I am one citizen thankful for his "ilk"....and pray they continue the fight. Cruz is one of the lights still shining in this dreadful darkness. God bless him.
Terrific and thoughtful post. Thanks.
Bottom line: I don't trust McConnell (or the majority of Republican Senators). They're part of the problem.
So I've no problem with Cruz ignoring the "opportunities" offered by the entrenched Senators. Those Senators are not fighting for me.
What personal attack? Really. Tell me how I attacked you.
Exactly!! They couldn't make it any clearer that they don't want to fight. They are NOT on our side. But some people will go to their graves before they ever get it.
using a rather dismissive, sexist epithet as the first part of an answer to someone whose views you oppose is not exactly objective, rational discourse, is it?
thanks for the personal attack, and the utter failure to appreciate anything that I've posted on this conversation. To that end, since too many seem to ignore what I actually post, I'm going to put up the graphic of mine that Once-ler is getting so tired of:(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx221/B_Oceander/Political/gop-slap-fight01.gif)
To the extent that my little graphic pisses people off, I say good, because this idiotic, incessant, childish, inane, asinine - adjectives fail me - bickering between the various factions in the GOP has thoroughly pissed me off.
That stupid graphic is utter HORSESHIT!! Get it through your head: McConnell & the GOPe are NOT "Moderates" -- they are statists. They thrive on Big Government!! They WANT more and more Big Government -- their actions speak much louder than their mealy mouth words. SMH
Interesting.
Too many want to go along to get along, which has been happening for too long! It's past time that someone takes a stand, and that we stand behind whoever has the guts to speak out. The politics of the past have gotten us into this mess today. All those involved need to be gone.
That stupid graphic is utter HORSESHIT!! Get it through your head: McConnell & the GOPe are NOT "Moderates" -- they are statists. They thrive on Big Government!! They WANT more and more Big Government -- their actions speak much louder than their mealy mouth words. SMH
and thank you, too, for that riveting personal attack.
We need to agree to disagree.
Thanks.
Why are you your graphic?? Or do you self identify as a Big Government statist??
Absent any of those, I can't see how you think it is a "personal" attack??
fair enough; I realize that not everyone will agree with me, and that's not necessarily an irrational thing to do - I will be the first to acknowledge that I may be mistaken about things; as a subjective matter, I think the odds of that are significantly less than 50%, but I cannot in good faith say that those risks don't exist at all.
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Ok :pondering:
Because I believe that you're in good faith, even if we vehemently disagree, and I believe that at the end of the day you will step into the voting booth and vote for the republican, even if you have to superglue your political nose closed in order to do so.
So good faith is voting for a republican because he/she is a republican?
I'm still convinced that Cruz' antics served a huge purpose in keeping hope alive in many homes across America. Somebody was out there speaking and fighting against the insanity.
It's damned well appreciated. And it bears out in elections.
If he ends up like Spartacus....so be it. There's a lot of positions in a GOP administration for a person with that intensity. It'll drive the Left nuts.
is good faith voting for the democrat?
because the way that both the McConnell types and the Cruz types are behaving is stupid and inane; it's a self-defeating, politically suicidal slap fight, and my graphic is intended to get my point across in a most viceral, discomfiting way. If you find it offensive, then it's at least achieved part of its purpose.
And telling someone to "Get it through your head" is an attack on that person's intellect and understanding - which is to say, an attack on the person - and not an attack on the ideas expressed by that person.
I would caution on this, don't let them dictate the terms of the debate. What we are talking about here are not "moderates." The better terms are Big Government Wing of the GOP, Statists, Neo-Statists (if you prefer Levin's nod to his GOP roots), Establishment Class, etc. Leaving aside all of the "social or moral" issues (which I personally would like to see removed from government as much as possible), an honest and objective assessment of the performance of the GOP (when in control) over the past 100 years, certainly doesn't give one the impression of "moderation."
Almost $18 Trillion in Debt (not even touching on the weight on the Trillions of unfunded liabilities), a FedGov:
- that spends $3.n Trillion per year (again, not counting the accrual for a couple Trillion in unfunded liabilities),
- that must borrow an obscene amount each day (regardless of the staggering amount of tax dollars sucked out of the private economy and private citizens),
- that now has more extra-Constitutional agencies (that takes two hands to count), and
- trots out a daily set of abuses of power (from the completely unleashed regulatory arms) that fills this forum (and others like it) with pages and pages of threads each day.
No, this isn't the result of one party's abuses and disregard of the Constitution with another party "moderating" things. It is the result of both parties being corrupted with (albeit different flavors of) statism, and a complete disregard for the constraints and guidance of the Constitution.
(I don't need to list all of the extra-Constitional Federal Agencies created, massive entitlement programs created or expanded, or any of the other completely un-Constitional measures established by the GOP. Anyone paying attention over the past N years is well aware of them. But just a peek at recent history should be representative: did you ever imagine that a GOP-controlled House would vote to not merely raise the Debt Limit, but "suspend" it, 3 times in a row now. "Suspend" it, like it just doesn't exist. A "blank check" delivered into the hands of the most abusive & corrupt regime ever to occupy DC. No, these aren't "moderates.")
So no, it isn't a matter of making nice with the "moderates" so that we can all "win," link arms, and set about fixing things. It is about removing the festering brood of statists, root and branch, from within the only party that can be salvaged at this point in time. That's what this "debate" is all about.
because the way that both the McConnell types and the Cruz types are behaving is stupid and inane; it's a self-defeating, politically suicidal slap fight, and my graphic is intended to get my point across in a most viceral, discomfiting way. If you find it offensive, then it's at least achieved part of its purpose.
And telling someone to "Get it through your head" is an attack on that person's intellect and understanding - which is to say, an attack on the person - and not an attack on the ideas expressed by that person.
Frankly that is your opinion and you are desperate of late to shut down any debate whatsoever and this graphic is one more example of it and frankly I find that graphic a personal attack against my beliefs.... or is that the desired effect to drive all the conservatives from this board by out mocking or outshouting them.
Rap...that's what a good lawyer will do. Hypnotize you with paragraphs!! LOL!
We're all family here. Tomorrow's another day! :laugh:
When people start posting dozens of paragraphs about personal opinion in reply to a comment I zone out... that is a lecture not a discussion...... if you have somethng to back up an alternative opinion then post the link and the article or swrite an opinion piece and post it in the opinion section for people to read or not read... and disagreeing with someone isn't a personal attack, that is getting thrown around way too much of late... we are going to have disagreements until the primaries are over - so people can either take the heat of the discussion or not.