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Title: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 11, 2019, 03:13:42 am
Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
The Hill, Jun 10, 2019

Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) has opted to quit the House Freedom Caucus in the wake of his comments in support of moving forward with impeachment proceedings.

The Freedom Caucus voted to condemn the Michigan Republican's remarks last month, but the group opted not to force him out despite a divide among members.

Amash was the first — and only — Republican House member to publicly say he thought President Trump had committed impeachable offenses after the release of special counsel Robert Mueller's report on Russian interference in the 2016 election.


More:  https://thehill.com/homenews/house/447832-amash-exits-house-freedom-caucus-in-wake-of-trump-impeachment-stance
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on June 11, 2019, 03:22:52 am
If the Freedom Caucus has abandoned fiscal restraint, and lower taxes then they really don't stand for much.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Sanguine on June 11, 2019, 03:23:27 am
This still baffles me. 
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: truth_seeker on June 11, 2019, 04:03:51 am
This still baffles me.
To me it shows how shallow many of them are. Maybe with the dems now in the majority, he figures on pleasing them.


He remembers the good olde GOP dayes, when Denny Hastert, homo-pedophile led, and John Boehner, pot promoter led, and Paul Ryan quit.

 
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: dancer on June 11, 2019, 10:50:29 am
If the Freedom Caucus has abandoned fiscal restraint, and lower taxes then they really don't stand for much.

Amash has changed on the positions he ran on, illegal immigration and abortion to name just two.  He appears to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.

His call for Trump's impeachment was the last straw.  He had also joined a group of GOPe who claim Trump is guilty of obstruction of justice via the Mueller Report.  The "Republicans for the Rule of Law" ran an ad on F&F on Monday: 

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/447651-gop-group-urges-republicans-to-speak-out-on-obstruction-claims-against-trump?jwsource=cl

He also accused AG Barr of misrepresenting the findings on the Mueller Report.

As usual, follow the money.   Amash is against tariffs.
He is a co-owner of the Chinese company, Dynamic Source International, located in Hangzhou, China.  Those details are in his financial disclosure forms.  It's all about the $$$.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: sneakypete on June 11, 2019, 02:19:49 pm

As usual, follow the money.   Amash is against tariffs.
He is a co-owner of the Chinese company, Dynamic Source International, located in Hangzhou, China.  Those details are in his financial disclosure forms.  It's all about the $$$.

@dancer

And there you have it,all tidy and wrapped up with a silk bow.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Bigun on June 11, 2019, 02:29:56 pm
@dancer

And there you have it,all tidy and wrapped up with a silk bow.

 888high58888  :beer:
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: corbe on June 11, 2019, 02:38:57 pm
   The House Freedom Caucus is as worthless as boobs on a boar hog. Trump/McConnell/McCarthy saw to that.  This is just another prime example of the Trump/GOP's war on any Conservative.  Screw em. 
   Caution: Trump campaign political smear job just ahead.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: libertybele on June 11, 2019, 02:51:02 pm
Amash has changed on the positions he ran on, illegal immigration and abortion to name just two.  He appears to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.

His call for Trump's impeachment was the last straw.  He had also joined a group of GOPe who claim Trump is guilty of obstruction of justice via the Mueller Report.  The "Republicans for the Rule of Law" ran an ad on F&F on Monday: 

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/447651-gop-group-urges-republicans-to-speak-out-on-obstruction-claims-against-trump?jwsource=cl

He also accused AG Barr of misrepresenting the findings on the Mueller Report.

As usual, follow the money.   Amash is against tariffs.
He is a co-owner of the Chinese company, Dynamic Source International, located in Hangzhou, China.  Those details are in his financial disclosure forms.  It's all about the $$$.

His joining the GOPe is the problem in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 11, 2019, 03:05:05 pm
   The House Freedom Caucus is as worthless as boobs on a boar hog. Trump/McConnell/McCarthy saw to that.  This is just another prime example of the Trump/GOP's war on any Conservative.  Screw em. 
   Caution: Trump campaign political smear job just ahead.

Ryan tried to marginalize the HFC by throwing its members off Committees.  Ryan is gone, HFC is still there so I haven't given up on them just yet.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: EdJames on June 11, 2019, 03:15:31 pm
Ryan tried to marginalize the HFC by throwing its members off Committees.  Ryan is gone, HFC is still there so I haven't given up on them just yet.

You got it.  Any House Caucus is only as powerful as the Speaker and House leadership allow them to be.

If the GOP retake the House and name a conservative Speaker, then the HFC will be allowed to become effective.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: sneakypete on June 11, 2019, 03:19:43 pm



If the GOP retake the House and name a conservative Speaker, then the HFC will be allowed to become effective.

@EdJames

Seems unlikely because the GOP of today  are nothing but Dim-Lites,lusting for a return to the days of The Bush Crime Family "conservatism".
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: EdJames on June 11, 2019, 03:21:48 pm
@EdJames

Seems unlikely because the GOP of today  are nothing but Dim-Lites,lusting for a return to the days of The Bush Crime Family "conservatism".

Ya, I said "If" but probably should have made it IF!!
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 11, 2019, 03:36:27 pm
You got it.  Any House Caucus is only as powerful as the Speaker and House leadership allow them to be.

If the GOP retake the House and name a conservative Speaker, then the HFC will be allowed to become effective.

Watch:  the Stupid Party will elect McCarthey as Speaker.   9999hair out0000
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 11, 2019, 03:38:17 pm
@EdJames

Seems unlikely because the GOP of today  are nothing but Dim-Lites,lusting for a return to the days of The Bush Crime Family "conservatism".

@sneakypete  I think the corruption of the House and Senate GOP goes back a lot further than the Bushes.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: corbe on June 11, 2019, 03:57:09 pm
   The brief history of the HFC (as I remember it) Boehner kept them off House Committee's and also did not dole out any NRCC funds to those that were running for re election (read all of them).  They were instrumental in Boehner's disappearance act (w/Ted Cruz as instigator).  This was the height of their effectiveness.  Enter Paul Ryan/Donald Trump.  Paul gave them Committee assignments and NRCC funds while Donald Trump belittled with tweets and threatened to 'primary' them, particularly over the obummercare 'lite' bill McCain scuttled. This is when all but a couple (Amash) cut off their balls and FedEx'd them to the West Wing.  They have been neutered and irrelevant ever since. Hopefully Mo Brooks will run for the Al Senate seat once held by Jeff Sessions.   
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: sneakypete on June 11, 2019, 03:57:20 pm
@sneakypete  I think the corruption of the House and Senate GOP goes back a lot further than the Bushes.

@Cyber Liberty

You bet it does,or they would have never been allowed to move south from the north and gain political power.

None the less,the Bush Crime Family now defines alleged Republican corruption and treason.

All for our own good,of course.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 11, 2019, 04:03:02 pm
@Cyber Liberty

You bet it does,or they would have never been allowed to move south from the north and gain political power.

None the less,the Bush Crime Family now defines alleged Republican corruption and treason.

All for our own good,of course.

@sneakypete

In that case we should not rest on laurels now that they are "gone."  This will flare up with another crime family.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: sneakypete on June 11, 2019, 04:41:27 pm
@sneakypete

In that case we should not rest on laurels now that they are "gone."  This will flare up with another crime family.

@Cyber Liberty

Do NOT forget about Whore-Hay,"the Brown Bush",whose criminal records for stalking they managed to annul,and who is now a lawyer in Texas they are buying political appointments for. No doubt someone else in the office does all the work and Whore-Hay takes all the credit,but you have to admit the timing is PERFECT for a Brown Bush to get elected to state-wide office and begin the trek to the WH. The long-established machine with all the "right" political connections has been in place for years,and so has the money to push him to the top.

Granted,they lost their "general" when Babs died,but I am sure someone has taken her place and is working quietly in the background. Not Whore-Hay's wife,of course. She is a blonde trophy wife that won't scare away the gringos. I honestly don't have a clue who it would be,but I am positive that vacuum has been filled. George P (Whore-Hay) ain't all that bright,and his brother and sister both have criminal records they can't buy their way out of.

Baby Brudder "Ah doan no nuttin bout no bank-in" Neil Bush is retarded even by Dim standards. That episode in Taiwan where a strange,beautiful Asian woman knocked on his door late at night and announced she was lost and asked is she could come in to use his phone and blow him killed any chance he had for anything. It seems to have never occurred to that retard that she was a hooker,or that there were cameras and microphones in the room his hosts had provided for him "for free". It did get his wife free from having to babysit that retard,and with a hefty bank account to boot,though.

As near as I can determine,Whore-Hay is where they are putting all their money and effort.

We are just lucky that Whore-Hay and Chelsea didn't marry and "unite the country politically".

Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 13, 2019, 02:10:27 am
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Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 13, 2019, 02:38:49 am
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Hmm.  If that gets really bad he might go third-party.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on June 13, 2019, 02:52:56 am
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Crikey...that's like Biden vs. Trump polling numbers.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Wingnut on June 13, 2019, 02:59:08 am
Crikey...that's like Biden vs. Trump polling numbers.

You really suck at trolling. But bless your little liberal heart for playing tho.  Carry on.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 13, 2019, 03:01:57 am
Crikey...that's like Biden vs. Trump polling numbers.

Do you mean the Amash numbers are heavily doctored by a biased press too?  And any of these polls mean something this far out?

I.  Did.  Not.  Know. That.

(I really hate polls, which is why I lie like a rug whenever they call me.)
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 13, 2019, 03:02:53 am
To me it shows how shallow many of them are. Maybe with the dems now in the majority, he figures on pleasing them.


He remembers the good olde GOP dayes, when Denny Hastert, homo-pedophile led, and John Boehner, pot promoter led, and Paul Ryan quit.
Amash, may I remind you probably the most conservative Congressman since Ron Paul, was elected four years after Hastert left Congress.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 13, 2019, 03:28:14 am
Amash, may I remind you probably the most conservative Congressman since Ron Paul, was elected four years after Hastert left Congress.

Siding with the Rats on Impeachment of a Republican President is a peculiar way of showing his conservatism. 
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Sanguine on June 13, 2019, 03:30:15 am
Siding with the Rats on Impeachment of a Republican President is a peculiar way of showing his conservatism.

Yeah, that was my thought too. 
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Wingnut on June 13, 2019, 03:38:13 am
Yeah, that was my thought too.

He is a brain-dead stooge. wink777
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on June 13, 2019, 03:41:43 am
Siding with the Rats on Impeachment of a Republican President is a peculiar way of showing his conservatism.
Perhaps Amash doesn't think either the rats or President Trump are particularly conservative, but President Trump, without qualification, is unfit to be President.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Sanguine on June 13, 2019, 03:44:36 am
Perhaps Amash doesn't think either the rats or President Trump are particularly conservative, but President Trump, without qualification, is unfit to be President.

I'm not going to try to determine what Amash is thinking since he's done a 180.  You may have special abilities and be able to read his mind.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Wingnut on June 13, 2019, 03:54:51 am
Perhaps Amash doesn't think either the rats or President Trump are particularly conservative, but President Trump, without qualification, is unfit to be President.

Tell us my dear man, without qualification, how you arrived at your conclusion that your President is unfit to hold the office.   
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: EasyAce on June 13, 2019, 03:59:24 am
   The House Freedom Caucus is as worthless as boobs on a boar hog. Trump/McConnell/McCarthy saw to that.  This is just another prime example of the Trump/GOP's war on any Conservative.  Screw em. 
   Caution: Trump campaign political smear job just ahead.
@corbe
In the name of candor they should re-name themselves the House Freedom Carcass.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 13, 2019, 04:05:28 am
@corbe
In the name of candor they should re-name themselves the House Freedom Carcass.

Maybe they don't want to go quietly into the good night?

Heck, I dunno.  Somebody will be along with a new group for us to be disappointed with and co-opt the HFC.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Wingnut on June 13, 2019, 04:07:09 am
Maybe they don't want to go quietly into the good night?

Heck, I dunno.  Somebody will be along with a new group for us to be disappointed with and co-opt the HFC.

Ouch. 
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 13, 2019, 04:27:13 am
Tell us my dear man, without qualification, how you arrived at your conclusion that your President is unfit to hold the office.

 :2popcorn:
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Wingnut on June 13, 2019, 04:35:43 am
:2popcorn:

The liberal gentleman from the suburbs of Madison Wisconsin has me on ignore.  We seem to have a love hate relationship.  We love to hate each other.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 13, 2019, 04:43:54 am
The liberal gentleman from the suburbs of Madison Wisconsin has me on ignore.  We seem to have a love hate relationship.  We love to hate each other.

That sort of thing is fun to quote. wink777
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 13, 2019, 10:56:23 am
Siding with the Rats on Impeachment of a Republican President is a peculiar way of showing his conservatism.
Fealty to a cult of personality and a party line is a peculiar way of showing conservatism, too. Especially when said President reneges on his promises, appoints liberals like Brett Kavanaugh to SCOTUS, blows up the federal deficit, and has a long record of questionable (to put it mildly) sexual conduct.

I disagree with Amash on this particular issue being impeachable, but that disagreement is personal, not related to his political views.
Title: Re: Amash exits House Freedom Caucus in wake of Trump impeachment stance
Post by: sneakypete on June 13, 2019, 01:19:59 pm
Fealty to a cult of personality and a party line is a peculiar way of showing conservatism, too. Especially when said President reneges on his promises, appoints liberals like Brett Kavanaugh to SCOTUS, blows up the federal deficit, and has a long record of questionable (to put it mildly) sexual conduct.

 

@jmyrlefuller

I am hoping that one day anti-Trumpers will get a sex life of your own you don't have to hide,and move on to being concerned about real things.