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Title: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: mystery-ak on November 14, 2019, 02:44:54 am
Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Beth Baumann

Posted: Nov 13, 2019 6:45 PM

After the Democrats' bogus impeachment hearing with Ambassador Bill Taylor on Wednesday, former United States Solicitor General Ken Starr told Fox News' Bret Bair that "no crime was proven today."

“The members were very strong. I think the members overall acquitted themselves extremely well on both sides of the aisle. The quality of the questioning was extremely high for the most part," he said. "One key thing, the Republicans not only are rock solid, so that means if this trend continues, there is no hope for impeachment, for the conviction of the House — I mean, in the Senate."

But Starr's biggest takeaway: Democrats failed to prove President Donald Trump proved a crime, like what was very clear during the impeachment proceedings against Presidents Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton.

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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/11/13/ken-starr-blasts-democrats-you-didnt-prove-a-crime-was-committed-n2556462
Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on November 14, 2019, 03:19:41 am
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After the Democrats' bogus impeachment hearing with Ambassador Bill Taylor on Wednesday, former United States Solicitor General Ken Starr told Fox News' Bret Bair that "no crime was proven today."

The journey of 1,000 miles starts with a first step.

I was pleasantly surprised to see so many democrats praise Ambassador Taylor for his military service.  I'm still watching it so I hope I see some GOP members commend him for his service...even though he is a NeverTrumper according to President Trump.

Tom Nichols @RadioFreeTom
And serves as a reminder again that if enough people had made an exception for *their* GOP member of Congress and kept the Republicans in the House majority, Nunes would be burying all this and conducting some sham investigation of Joe Biden while more Ukrainians die.
Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: kidd on November 14, 2019, 03:45:55 am
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I was pleasantly surprised to see so many democrats praise Ambassador Taylor for his military service.
Yes, that's been a pretty rare thing since the end of the Korean War.
Suddenly the democrats are extolling the military, although its his role as Ambassador that is relevant.
Maybe he was a Boy Scout at one time. I'll bet he's a practicing Christian too.
Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on November 14, 2019, 04:29:35 am
Yes, that's been a pretty rare thing since the end of the Korean War.
Suddenly the democrats are extolling the military, although its his role as Ambassador that is relevant.
Maybe he was a Boy Scout at one time. I'll bet he's a practicing Christian too.
It's telling how the GOP forgets to honor the vets who don't protect President Trump above all. 
Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: kidd on November 14, 2019, 05:10:27 am
It's telling how the GOP forgets to honor the vets who don't protect President Trump above all.
I see no evidence that they forgot to honor vets. Have you researched how "the GOP" spent their time on Monday? There is a time and place. To hint that the Ambassador is somehow immune from scrutiny in his role as Ambassador because he is a vet is illogical. To suggest that that the time and place of this inquiry is the time and place to review the Ambassador's contribution to the military is a giant non-sequitur.
Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on November 14, 2019, 07:00:49 am
I see no evidence that they forgot to honor vets. Have you researched how "the GOP" spent their time on Monday? There is a time and place. To hint that the Ambassador is somehow immune from scrutiny in his role as Ambassador because he is a vet is illogical. To suggest that that the time and place of this inquiry is the time and place to review the Ambassador's contribution to the military is a giant non-sequitur.
@kidd
Do you understand how saying "honor for service" is not even close to "immunity from scrutiny?" 
I think anytime a vet is introduced to millions of people through live television it's an appropriate and politically smart time to honor their service. 
The GOP failed to acknowledge it.  They looked petty, as do their disingenuously indignant apologists. :patriot:
Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 14, 2019, 03:57:58 pm
@Once-Ler for one who has claimed to not be in support of Impeachment and removal, you sure can be counted upon to ape the Democrat talking points.  You wouldn't be lying to us about that, would you?
Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: sneakypete on November 14, 2019, 04:47:04 pm
It's telling how the GOP forgets to honor the vets who don't protect President Trump above all.

@Once-Ler

Are you a professional fool,or do you do this for a hobby,and don't get paid for it?
Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: dfwgator on November 14, 2019, 05:08:26 pm
I don't think many peoples' minds on either side were changed much,   people see what they want to see.  That's the State of politics today.
Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: kidd on November 14, 2019, 06:42:16 pm
@kidd
Do you understand how saying "honor for service" is not even close to "immunity from scrutiny?" 
I do.
And I recognize when someone is being disingenuous
Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: Bigun on November 14, 2019, 06:54:29 pm
I see no evidence that they forgot to honor vets. Have you researched how "the GOP" spent their time on Monday? There is a time and place. To hint that the Ambassador is somehow immune from scrutiny in his role as Ambassador because he is a vet is illogical. To suggest that that the time and place of this inquiry is the time and place to review the Ambassador's contribution to the military is a giant non-sequitur.

 :yowsa:  :thumbsup: :beer:
Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on November 14, 2019, 07:28:52 pm
@Once-Ler for one who has claimed to not be in support of Impeachment and removal, you sure can be counted upon to ape the Democrat talking points.  You wouldn't be lying to us about that, would you?
@Cyber Liberty
You might have read that from my comments, but I have not written that.  I don't know how I convinced you I wasn't a NeverTrumper, but that was never my intention.  I have written that Trump WILL be impeached by the House, but is unlikely to be removed by the Senate.  My observations are my own.  Nunes started out talking to conspiracy nuts about Crowdstrike and FusionGPS to appeal to the base, Schiff laid out a fact based narrative with lots of respect for government service both diplomatic and military to appeal to moderates and NeverTrumpers.
Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: Bigun on November 14, 2019, 07:42:55 pm
@Once-Ler

Are you a professional fool,or do you do this for a hobby,and don't get paid for it?

IMHO @sneakypete @Once-Ler  is a professional Democrat troll and why he is still allowed to post here is a complete mystery to me. 
Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: roamer_1 on November 14, 2019, 07:44:49 pm
[...] people see what they want to see.


True in my case... I have seen exactly none of it... Which is what I want.
Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on November 14, 2019, 07:51:34 pm
IMHO @sneakypete @Once-Ler  is a professional Democrat troll and why he is still allowed to post here is a complete mystery to me.
@Bigun

Professional???

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Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: sneakypete on November 14, 2019, 10:40:32 pm
IMHO @sneakypete @Once-Ler  is a professional Democrat troll and why he is still allowed to post here is a complete mystery to me.

@Bigun

Why not let him post? We all know who he is and what he is trying to do,so he is harmless. Besides,it keeps him from playing in the street.
Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: Bigun on November 14, 2019, 10:45:33 pm
@Bigun

Why not let him post? We all know who he is and what he is trying to do,so he is harmless. Besides,it keeps him from playing in the street.

 :yowsa: That must be it @sneakypete!  My bad.
Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 14, 2019, 10:50:19 pm
:yowsa: That must be it @sneakypete!  My bad.

Yup! :yowsa:
Title: Re: Americans Probably Have the Same Reaction to Today's Hearing as Ken Starr
Post by: Bigun on November 14, 2019, 10:53:08 pm
Yup! :yowsa:

He's on ignore for me so I only see what he posts when someone quotes him.  It's all good.  :whistle: