Hopefully this will be the last thread.
Many Planned protests this weekend.
DC expecting 1 mil people..protest led by Al *Bobblehead* Sharpton and the Floyd Family
Any happenings tonight?
I wouldn't say 'all over'. Almost all the so called 'protests' are on the East and Left coast, which is to be expected. They will be the die hards and are the last to call it quits.
Yeah there are protests just about all over..Fox isn't reporting any rioting yet
Found this on another thread on another forum:Paging @txradioguy
Normally I wouldn't believe this, but these days.... if this is true, it could actually be a civil war.
But I'm not military in the slightest. Anyone care to comment?
Adam Parkhomenko, a Democratic strategist who served as a national field director for the Democratic National Committee in 2016, claimed a million protesters might show up in Washington.
Other demonstrations are expected to take place, including a march organized by No Justice No Peace, beginning at 2 p.m. outside the Dirksen Senate Office Building on Capitol Hill.
Another will meet at the Lincoln Memorial at 12 p.m. Black Deaf DC is meeting at 2 p.m. near the White House.
The White House has countermeasures in place.
I am ticked off about the cop getting in trouble in Buffalo for pushing the man. He approached riot police. He was told to get back, then started flailing his hands. Why would anyone not expect the cops to push him back? I didn’t see anything wrong in the action taken.
Buffalo police officers resign from unit in protest of suspended colleagues who shoved man, 75, to ground
MSN, Jun 5, 2020, NBC News
Nearly five dozen Buffalo police officers, specially trained for civil unrest, resigned from their unit Friday after two colleagues were suspended after a video surfaced appearing to show them shoving and seriously injuring a 75-year-old protester, officials said.
“Fifty-seven resigned in disgust because of the treatment of two of their members, who were simply executing orders,†union president John Evans told NBC affiliate WGRZ.
A spokesman for Buffalo's mayor confirmed the mass resignation, but insisted his city's streets would be protected. The officers involved are still with the department but are refusing to work on this specialized unit they had previously volunteered to join, a city rep said.
More: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/buffalo-police-officers-resign-from-unit-in-protest-of-suspended-colleagues-who-shoved-man-75-to-ground/ar-BB155Vzq?ocid=ientp (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/buffalo-police-officers-resign-from-unit-in-protest-of-suspended-colleagues-who-shoved-man-75-to-ground/ar-BB155Vzq?ocid=ientp)
Authorities re-apprehend Pittsburgh bomb suspect after apartment search
Jacob Tierney
Friday, June 5, 2020 11:22 p.m.
The Allegheny County Sheriff’s Office Friday re-apprehended a man charged with leaving a backpack full of homemade explosives in downtown Pittsburgh after a search of his apartment allegedly turned up new evidence.
Matthew Michanowicz, 52, of Pittsburgh, originally was arrested by Pittsburgh police this week and charged with three counts of possessing weapons of mass destruction and three counts of arson.
He allegedly rode a bike to PNC Plaza on Sunday and planted the backpack in a nearby bush. The Pittsburgh Bomb Squad found the backpack Monday after receiving reports of a suspicious package. ...
Troops line up outside the fenced-in White House as protesters begin to arrive in D.C. for George Floyd march that is set to attract one million people
Daily Mail/UK, Jun 6, 2020
Troops surrounded a barricaded White House on Saturday morning as Washington D.C. prepared for the largest George Floyd protest yet. The nation's capital braced itself with members of the National Guard guarding famous landmarks and patrolling a new pedestrian-only demonstration area as streets were closed off.
Streets were shut in downtown from 6am as the first of the dozens of demonstrations organized for the day began and the city's metro system announced it was reopening cars closed due to coronavirus to boost rider capacity.
Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy told reporters Friday that local officials were projecting between 100,000 and 200,000 protesters.
As of just after midday, at least 6,000 had already gathered split between The Lincoln Memorial and those close to the White House. The D.C. protests will be joined by many more as hundreds of thousands are expected to turn out across the country.
Streets around the White House were closed and marked with checkpoints as the National Guard prepares for up to one million people
to descend on the city to demonstrate throughout Saturday
More: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8394481/White-House-prepares-biggest-protest-one-million-expected-George-Floyd-march.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8394481/White-House-prepares-biggest-protest-one-million-expected-George-Floyd-march.html)
“ the city’s (DC) metro system announced it was reopening cars closed due to coronavirus to boost rider capacity.â€
Well, I guess DC is open for business again. :laugh:Only if you are Antifa or BLM
Only if you are Antifa or BLM
pics from the Lincoln Memorial this afternoon:I hope they brought sunscreen. Lots of pasty white flesh there.
I hope they brought sunscreen. Lots of pasty white flesh there.
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p526x296/102871168_10222823230547272_3878074586462043258_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=VMJacUsoONMAX9kuYzK&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&_nc_tp=6&oh=b0adfd99cfe49342fc24cdb6b9d9f109&oe=5F01FB97)Only one thing worse than a GI away from home... it is a hungry, sleepy GI away from home... lol
DC Mayor kicked the Guard out of hotels..this is where they slept...
I just got this on FB, not sure if it is correct considering there are so many bases in and around DC they could have gone to.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZxzw87XsAAsLSI?format=jpg&name=small)evidently, the obama apology tour is not over yet...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZxzw8VXgAIkG8N?format=jpg&name=360x360) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZxzw87XsAAsLSI?format=jpg&name=small)
Lunchbox Joe has no idea how this image looks to the rank & file.He does not even realize he is in the picture..
Lunchbox Joe has no idea how this image looks to the rank & file.
Girl♥ï¸Bot
@AMErikaNGIRLLL
EPIC: When Dad Catches you at a Rally🔥😂🤣😭Good job dad .
Video: https://twitter.com/AMErikaNGIRLLL/status/1269322658803580931
1:37 PM · Jun 6, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
He does not even realize he is in the picture..
Ford Fischer
@FordFischer
Secret Service with long duffle bags and badges marked “United States Secret Service Special Operations Counter Sniper Team†heading into the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute building a block north of White House.
Video: https://twitter.com/FordFischer/status/1269295500106366978
11:50 AM · Jun 6, 2020 from Washington, DC·Twitter for iPhone
It's been suggested dad should take the damn phone, too. :laugh:
I find it interesting that the DC rally is scheduled to begin around 4pm.A protest in a town near me was scheduled to begin at 3 p.m. today. No word on whether anyone showed up.
All the other rallies in other cities usually start 12-1pm.
Bowser addresses record crowd at Black Lives Matter Plaza
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ2eH-LXQAMIt5J?format=jpg&name=small)
Bowser is officially on my last nerve. 888mouthThe folks in DC really know how to pick'em that's for sure...
City of Atlanta lifts 8 p.m curfew for Saturday night
The city of Atlanta will not have a 8 p.m. curfew Saturday night.
A spokesperson with the mayor’s office confirmed to Channel 2 Action News that the citywide curfew has been lifted. Officials will monitor the situation before they make a decision about Sunday’s curfew.
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/city-atlanta-lifts-8-pm-curfew-saturday-night/GNDNWTE64NF67GKZFJGQUT25FU/ (https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/city-atlanta-lifts-8-pm-curfew-saturday-night/GNDNWTE64NF67GKZFJGQUT25FU/)
Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec
Receiving a lot of messages about the safety of the White House today
The Executive Mansion is very, very well-defended, with extra layers of mobile and immobile physical security added all week
I've lived in DC for 8 years and never seen anything like this
4:31 PM · Jun 6, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1269366221574737920
Well at least she’s getting enough to eat. :smokin:
Lived here for 48 years and have never seen anything like this....a social media-driven event.We moved up here from Texas in spring of 1960.
President Trump is going to need that 40% black support they're talking about.
Bowser is officially on my last nerve. 888mouth
We moved up here from Texas in spring of 1960.
The riots in '68 and civil rights marches were much bigger and much more violent.
QuoteThis is quickly becoming a money grabbing scheme for the leftist crowd.
My head is spinning from all the pledges coming in from cities, companies and individuals to back minority causes.
I read that the Floyd family had received 26 MILLION dollars in donations the first week alone.QuoteNo wonder Al Sharpton is right in the middle of things.
They be his new bestest friends.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJX8UUDA734&feature=emb_logo#)How ironic is it that woman with a face like that is named "Bowser". People should go to her speeches and bark like dogs.
Bowser addresses record crowd at Black Lives Matter Plaza
Andy Ngô @MrAndyNgo (https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1269079395915821056)This guy isn't even making an attempt to look like a woman. What kind of low rent transsexual is that?
Amelia J. Shamrowicz was arrested on felony charges of arson, riot & criminal mischief. The affidavit says she participated in an arson attack in Portland. She allegedly told a friend she's part of #antifa & wanted the riots to kill. Her bail was paid. http://archive.vn/p0Ldb (http://archive.vn/p0Ldb)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZyrC-rU0AAX6U1?format=jpg&name=360x360)
9:31 PM · Jun 5, 2020
Shamrowicz, who is transsexual, told a contact she used an incendiary device to start the fire, according to the affidavit. She was "extremely excited" about being labeled a terrorist & had goal to start more fires. She's from Strongsville, Ohio but lives in Portland. #antifa
The best and the brightest join Antifa.This guy isn't even making an attempt to look like a woman. What kind of low rent transsexual is that?
Imagine meeting “her†on a blind date.
The guy’s thinking where’s the nearest exit, feet don’t fail me now.
I can imagine.
Moved down here in 1972...looking out my window driving on the Beltway for the 1st time...when on the radio, they announced Arthur Bremer has just shot George Wallace at the Laurel Mall Plaza.
Think he's sort of cute. The kind you'd like to 'Dexter'-ize.
I can imagine.I was answering uncle sugars letter to be there or be square (draft)... lol
Moved down here in 1972...looking out my window driving on the Beltway for the 1st time...when on the radio, they announced Arthur Bremer has just shot George Wallace at the Laurel Mall Plaza.
The best and the brightest join Antifa.This guy isn't even making an attempt to look like a woman. What kind of low rent transsexual is that?
DeAnna Lorraine
🇺🇸
@DeAnna4Congress
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4h
ANTIFA just cancelled their protest in Placerville, CA today when the Hell’s Angels said they would be meeting them there.
Love being on the RIGHT side!
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Much smaller crowd in D.C. than anticipated. National Guard, Secret Service, and D.C. Police have been doing a fantastic job. Thank you!
10:09 PM · Jun 6, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1269451304503574528
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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@CNN & MSDNC are doing everything possible to “inflame†the crowd. Fortunately they have a very small audience!
10:12 PM · Jun 6, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1269452057737641984
Paging @txradioguy
@mountaineer @Weird Tolkienish Figure I'm gonna call bullshit on this one. Someone in the USAF is making stuff up to stir the pot.
And if anyone tries to say lets see the proof...they will hide behind the "I can't bring it forward because it was on a .mil" excuse.
I hope so. This is just so sad and depressing these days.
Lets put it this way...if it were me making those claims here....there would be screen shots and probably a direct upload of any powerpoint slides associated with what was said or putout on the conference call. Because (and rightfully so) there would be people calling bulls*t and I'd want to be able to back up my claim.
Not seeing that in this instance.
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Invest in a pair of earrings, jackass.
https://clips.twitch.tv/AgreeableSpeedyChoughPupper
Karma’s a bitch. Rest in pieces. :0006:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9gKgCbO22c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9gKgCbO22c)Still fighting back....
Rioter killed by confederate statue!!! Bwahahahaha!!!!! No joke!
Still fighting back....
(Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.)
Not dead according to the virginian pilot https://www.pilotonline.com/news/vp-nw-portsmouth-confederate-monument-20200610-65p7wr3nkvcrneaotwycjygcqu-story.html (https://www.pilotonline.com/news/vp-nw-portsmouth-confederate-monument-20200610-65p7wr3nkvcrneaotwycjygcqu-story.html)
Jesus H. Christ.....is there not even ONE "breaking news" story reported that is actually true?
This 24/7 fifteen minute news cycle is responsible....everyone wants to be first with the news, but not the facts.
This 24/7 fifteen minute news cycle is responsible....everyone wants to be first with the news, but not the facts.True, but a lot of times when you try to search for followup stories, they're nearly impossible to find. The snooze media have short attention spans.
Ian Miles Cheong @stillgray
Rioters in Philly deface a statue of Matthias Baldwin, an early abolitionist
who fought against slavery 30 years before it ended.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaNh1h_U0AASAE4?format=jpg&name=small)
2:32 AM · Jun 11, 2020
Ladies and gentlemen! I give you the next generation and the future candidate for President of the United Free States of Fredonia and Leader of the Democratic Antifa Party! (((cheering from the wild throngs of Borg)))
Ian Miles Cheong @stillgray
Rioters in Philly deface a statue of Matthias Baldwin, an early abolitionist
who fought against slavery 30 years before it ended.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaNh1h_U0AASAE4?format=jpg&name=small)
2:32 AM · Jun 11, 2020
It isn't about erasing Confederate History, it is about erasing the history of the people who built this Country. Besides, well done statues are meaningful art. The taggers don't want the competition.
I have already gone on a rant about the defacement of the 54 Mass. monument. This is part II. The first of many to follow.
He might not have died, but I have hope he felt intense pain, and suffered brain damage.
Heard today that he's in an "induced coma". Never good.
Robert Barnes @Barnes_LawThey really must want a civil war.
Protesters in San Antonio now demanding tearing down The Alamo.
2:04 PM · Jun 13, 2020
These damn protests are still going on. Currently marching in Pittsburgh, and now this:They really must want a civil war.
These damn protests are still going on. Currently marching in Pittsburgh, and now this:They really must want a civil war.
Tear down the Alamo?I should hope not.
That won't happen without blood....
Not sure I would get wound up over these twitter feeds.
I cannot find any news reports on the alamo or georgia events....
Georgia is real... Perp just went afk in drive thru at Wendy's then when police called he attacked the officers and took their tazer and pointed it at them and fired and they fired back.Well, if he hadn't taken the cop's less than lethal option, maybe the cop wouldn't have had to shoot him. Duh. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. BTW, I bet a Wendy's would be welcome in NW North Dakota...(Hint)
https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-rioters-burn-down-wendys-in-atlanta-where-rayshard-brooks-was-killed?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mattwalsh (https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-rioters-burn-down-wendys-in-atlanta-where-rayshard-brooks-was-killed?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mattwalsh)
Well, if he hadn't taken the cop's less than lethal option, maybe the cop wouldn't have had to shoot him. Duh. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. BTW, I bet a Wendy's would be welcome in NW North Dakota...(Hint)
WAT??? You ain't got a Wendys? We've got at least two... :shrug:Well send us one! No Wendy's and no Taco Bell. See the ads for them all the time, (Grrrrrr!)
Well send us one! No Wendy's and no Taco Bell. See the ads for them all the time, (Grrrrrr!)
Georgia is real... Perp just went afk in drive thru at Wendy's then when police called he attacked the officers and took their tazer and pointed it at them and fired and they fired back.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-rioters-burn-down-wendys-in-atlanta-where-rayshard-brooks-was-killed?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mattwalsh (https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-rioters-burn-down-wendys-in-atlanta-where-rayshard-brooks-was-killed?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mattwalsh)
We got a Taco Bell... But I never go. More a Taco John's kinda guy. :shrug:Could use a Sonic, too. Just to up the variety.
Apparently this little bi1ch is a racist (https://misfit120.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/wendy2.jpg) cause they are burning down her restaurant in GA.
Could use a Sonic, too. Just to up the variety.
Could use a Sonic, too. Just to up the variety.
Never seen a Sonic in my whole life. :shrug:Went to one in MD, and the food was surprisingly tasty. But I miss A&W, too.
C.C. Pecknold @ccpecknold
A friend (not a conservative) writes to me:
“The left’s fear that Trump is Hitler has made them all Stalin and they are utterly blind to it.â€
9:21 AM · Jun 9, 2020
This is quickly becoming a money grabbing scheme for the leftist crowd.
My head is spinning from all the pledges coming in from cities, companies and individuals to back minority causes.
No wonder Al Sharpton is right in the middle of things.
Meanwhile... just saw on Fox a huge crowd welcoming Trump in Maine. So let them run amuck in DC. Elvis has left the building!!!
Saw something yesterday about looter looting looters.
That is, some looter had his living room filled to the ceiling with stolen goods.
Thugs found out, did a home invasion and took it all.
The guy called 911. He wanted Cops to come because all of his stolen stuff got stolen.
911: What did they take?
Caller: 13 televisions in the box, 24 sneakers in the box, all my wine, all kinds of appliances and clothes, they took everything! They even stole my weed!
I am ticked off about the cop getting in trouble in Buffalo for pushing the man. He approached riot police. He was told to get back, then started flailing his hands. Why would anyone not expect the cops to push him back? I didn’t see anything wrong in the action taken.
Tear down the Alamo? These nuts are becoming more and more like ISIS every day.
Protesters terrorizing father and daughter near Childrens Hospital in Houston
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@mystery-ak
Go ahead and call me a racist if that is what you need to do to feel better about yourselves,but THAT is EXACTLY what happens EVERY time you get a crowd of blacks that outnumber the whites by more than 10 to 1.
Yet it is ALWAYS the whites that get called "racists".
When was the last time ANY of you heard of a black mob attacking white people being called "racists"? I can tell you when,the 32nd of Never.
IF blacks are interested in being called "equal",they need to start standing up to the mobs and doing their own damn policing!
@LilLamb
I have to be honest. I didn't even see what I would call a push. It looked to me like the guy fell down on purpose after the cop put his hand on the geezer's chest to make him stay back and keep his distance.
Seems like he may have landed a little harder than planned,but if you look at the photo,you will see this old man "who was knocked unconscious" is laying there with his feet crossed.
When was the last time any of you heard of someone being knocked unconscious crossing their feet after they hit the ground?
Never thought I would say it, but we are at the point I wish we could split the country in half, and let those who support BLM/Antifa, dimocrats, and socialist ideas have their's, and us who support a lawful conservative leaning society have ours.
I know logistics would never allow, but ......
WALSH: It Is Time To Face The Facts. We Cannot Be United. (https://www.dailywire.com/news/walsh-it-is-time-to-face-the-facts-we-cannot-be-united)
I think he is far more right than he imagines.
I agree. We are now past the point of no return.
We probably agree on what needs to happen in order to reverse the direction this nation is taking.
I'm sure we also agree that, short of an act of God, there is no way what needs to happen will be allowed to happen.
It's not like we haven't been warned.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zywvEpT6dow#)
Damn right Pete. This is kind of like 9-11, when the so called moderate islamic population sat idly and quietly by why OBL flew his hijacked planes into the WTC and Pentagon.
In the new upgraded standard of what constitutes racism, most of us all are here. And at this point, I really don't care.
Never thought I would say it, but we are at the point I wish we could split the country in half, and let those who support BLM/Antifa, dimocrats, and socialist ideas have their's, and us who support a lawful conservative leaning society have ours.
I know logistics would never allow, but ......
Never thought I would say it, but we are at the point I wish we could split the country in half, and let those who support BLM/Antifa, dimocrats, and socialist ideas have their's, and us who support a lawful conservative leaning society have ours.
I know logistics would never allow, but ......
It's the Left that wouldn't allow it. Conservatives are perfectly content to choose their own local governments and vote on what laws we wish to implement without giving one damn what Vermont or Minnesota choose to do. But that's not what liberals do. Liberals demand that the laws they choose for themselves also be forced upon every other state at the point of a gun. Liberals in leftist states absolutely will not tolerate abortion restrictions in Mississippi or marriage laws in Georgia or school vouchers in Florida, and they will use any means necessary to cram their beliefs down your throat. 'Live and let live' is simply not part of their make-up.
Never thought I would say it, but we are at the point I wish we could split the country in half, and let those who support BLM/Antifa, dimocrats, and socialist ideas have their's, and us who support a lawful conservative leaning society have ours.
I know logistics would never allow, but ......
It's the Left that wouldn't allow it. Conservatives are perfectly content to choose their own local governments and vote on what laws we wish to implement without giving one damn what Vermont or Minnesota choose to do. But that's not what liberals do. Liberals demand that the laws they choose for themselves also be forced upon every other state at the point of a gun.
As @Hoodat says prog rats cannot "coexist" with a truly free society because they cannot stand the contrast... kinda like Muslims.
A party of busybodies with a fascist mindset. They just don’t get federalism. They forget the States part of the United States of America.
Hopefully this will be the last thread.
Many Planned protests this weekend.
DC expecting 1 mil people..protest led by Al *Bobblehead* Sharpton and the Floyd Family
@mystery-akCrying all the way to the bank, and wont cry again till the tax man shows up...
At this point I fully expect to read that one of the Floyd Family is marrying Beyonce,and another is a favorite to win a Senate seat.
Just think,it was only a couple of weeks ago they were ghetto rats,living in public housing,drinking Blatz or some other cheap beer,and having to buy their own drugs from street dealers.
Now,here they are with 26 Million last week,more this week,and they are jet-setting with people like The Rev-Rund Al,and most likely shopping for a new house wid a pool in Beverly,Hills that is. Black weed,Jamacian Gold.......
It's only a matter of time before their first rap CD drops.
Getting the giant turd that was related to them killed by a white cop has to be the best thing that ever happened to that family.
Forgetting "the States part" has been standard procedure since 1861.
I think whatever force is changing Europeans is trying to change Americans, too. The international Left. the collective is at work.
What I used to love about Europe was that all the countries of Europe had distinct cultures, languages and strong borders to keep it that way. Now it’s just all EU yuck, country after country blended by migration of people from the middle east and Northern Africa. What caused that? Were they invited? it appears they just suddenly showed up.We know it as Global Socialism. Turning the cultures of the world into some homogenized mass, a sort of McHumanity is one of the goals. Of course, that will work as well as Socialism (Marxism, Communism, whatever name you want to give it) has worked anywhere, only there will be no place to go.
Will future anthropologists and historians have the answers to why the events of the late 20th and early 21st century turned the cultural tides so suddenly and reshaped the people of the European continent?
I think whatever force is changing Europeans is trying to change Americans, too. The international Left. the collective is at work.
As @Hoodat says prog rats cannot "coexist" with a truly free society because they cannot stand the contrast... kinda like Muslims.
And I'm not gonna cede the coasts to those bungholes.
Crying all the way to the bank, and wont cry again till the tax man shows up...
What I used to love about Europe was that all the countries of Europe had distinct cultures, languages and strong borders to keep it that way. Now it’s just all EU yuck, country after country blended by migration of people from the middle east and Northern Africa. What caused that? Were they invited? it appears they just suddenly showed up.
@aligncare
I am positive that was just a coinkydink. There is no way it is possible this was all part of a clever plan put together by international banking families/AKA "The Masters of the Universe" to take over control of the whole world.
I do agree that uncontrolled immigration is a tactic of the left in both Europe and English-speaking North America. But I would argue that national homogenization in the US began as an assertion of Federal power and not with the same globalist motivation. Having laid the rails in 1865, the FedGov now provides the mechanism for that globalization.I agree with that assertion.
The big difference between the large numbers of immigrants who came during the century following 1865 is those were seeking better opportunities and were willing to embrace Americanism in both social and political constructs that resulted in active participation in its economic prosperity, whereas most immigrants now are only willing to embrace America's economic constructs with its resultant prosperity, foregoing incorporation into American society or learning US history.Mr. M's four grandparents came to America in the very early years of the 20th century. The men worked in steel mills. While they may have retained their language and customs at home, they were eager for their children to be as American as anyone else, to speak proper English, to do well in school and succeed. Many Americanized their surnames.
I do agree that uncontrolled immigration is a tactic of the left in both Europe and English-speaking North America. But I would argue that national homogenization in the US began as an assertion of Federal power and not with the same globalist motivation. Having laid the rails in 1865, the FedGov now provides the mechanism for that globalization.
Mr. M's four grandparents came to America in the very early years of the 20th century. The men worked in steel mills. While they may have retained their language and customs at home, they were eager for their children to be as American as anyone else, to speak proper English, to do well in school and succeed. Many Americanized their surnames.
They wanted to become Americans (without hyphens) and they didn't want to change America into anything else.
@Smokin JoeBy the time they figure out they got played, no one will buy the T-shirts...
And THAT will be the exact time they begin to realize that "The Rev" and the other Poverty Pimps who were their new best friends were never their friends at all,all that "free money" is missing,and they no longer even have enough money to pay the taxes they owe.
Meanwhile,The Rev,the NAACP,and their other Tan Klan "friends" have moved on and have NEW "best friends" and are not returning their calls.
I almost feel sorry for them. They were normal peasants with no experience in the lime light,no real education or experience handling money,never mind fame,and suddenly spot lights were being shined in their eyes,and their new famous friends were giving them advise on what to say,what to do,how to dress,and how to invest their money,for a "small fee".
They were bewildered and just went along with the "program" because they didn't know what else to do.
This time next year not even the media will be returning their calls,and they won't understand how any of this happened because they were too close to it to get a look,and they were dealing with professional scam artists.
Raheem Kassam
@RaheemKassam
CHAZ/CHOP resident calls into the Frasier Crane show:
(I hope @KelseyGrammer sees this)
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1272563995422216192
12:17 PM · Jun 15, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Man says he got coronavirus after protesting in Portland for 7 daysKPTV via KMOV (https://www.kmov.com/news/man-says-he-got-coronavirus-after-protesting-in-portland-for-7-days/article_79acee32-5128-57d1-b6d6-d92b920e819a.html)
By FOX 12 Staff
Updated 3 hrs ago | Posted on Jun 15, 2020
PORTLAND, OR (KPTV) -- With crowds of people in close quarters during the protests in Portland, health leaders worry COVID-19 will spread.
Now, a man in Portland tells FOX 12 he got the virus after marching in the streets.
Ethan Snyder says he had been out with protesters for seven days at the beginning of June.
Then last Friday, the 19-year-old started feeling tired and had a fever.
He went to a drive-thru testing facility, and it was confirmed he contracted coronavirus.
Snyder says he was wearing a mask the whole time he was protesting but had to remove it after being teargassed near the Justice Center. ...
So many thoughts come to mind (among them, "That's a shame ..."):KPTV via KMOV (https://www.kmov.com/news/man-says-he-got-coronavirus-after-protesting-in-portland-for-7-days/article_79acee32-5128-57d1-b6d6-d92b920e819a.html)
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I can't, you know, believe it!
I have already used my 5 monthly allotment of Seinfield "That's a Shame" gif responses. :cool:Predicted already that the riots would kickstart the "second wave" so desperately wanted by so many Democrat pols. They are willing to take a chance on the troops getting sick because they are in the low risk group.
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THere was a shooting at a protest and an antifa got shot in New Mexico.
@Weird Tolkienish Figure
See? Things are already looking up!
THere was a shooting at a protest and an antifa got shot in New Mexico.
I'm seeing reports that at this very moment, the mob is trying to tear down a statue of Andrew Jackson in Lafayette Square. No cops in sight.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/breaking-criminal-vandals-begin-tearing-andrew-jackson-statue-outside-white-house/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/breaking-criminal-vandals-begin-tearing-andrew-jackson-statue-outside-white-house/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons)
Also: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/breaking-radical-leftists-attempting-install-black-house-autonomous-zone-dc/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/breaking-radical-leftists-attempting-install-black-house-autonomous-zone-dc/)
Witness says police have shown up:
holly @hollySeaDC
#police taking back the area around andrew jackson statue at #dcprotests #wadcprotests
8:14 PM · Jun 22, 2020·
https://twitter.com/hollySeaDC/status/1275220650622365698
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Jemma @Donadeedooda
The police showed up (in DC) in the nick of time to save the Jackson statue.
Removing the ropes and dealing with outraged jagoffs.
8:20 PM · Jun 22, 2020
Police were sent in after the mayor learned that Jackson was a Democrat.
Police were sent in after the mayor learned that Jackson was a Democrat.Maybe they had Andrew confused with Stonewall Jackson.
Maybe they had Andrew confused with Stonewall Jackson.We're hoping Gen. Thomas Jackson will remain under the radar. One person - ONE - from somewhere near his hometown of Clarksburg, WV, is demanding the removal of a statue there. I suspect the rest of the community reveres him. City officials really need to stand up to this bullying.
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What happens when you import trouble.
@DCPatriotYEP! :yowsa: pointing-up
IT’S A COMMUNIST ASSAULT: Black Lives Matter Leaders Are Trained Marxists – Supporters of Socialist Maduro Regime – Behind the Removal of Statues Across the US (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/communist-assault-black-lives-matter-leaders-trained-marxists-supporters-socialist-maduro-regime-behind-removal-statues-across-us/)
YEP! :yowsa: pointing-up
Suddenly, the link above 404s. but this is still up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgEUbSzOTZ8&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgEUbSzOTZ8&feature=youtu.be)
YEP! :yowsa: pointing-up
Suddenly, the link above 404s. but this is still up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgEUbSzOTZ8&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgEUbSzOTZ8&feature=youtu.be)
@Smokin Joe I renewed the link in my post and it now works.THanks. Just read parts of a bit at The Atlantic babbling on about how the South was white supremacist, etc. Hoo Boy.
THanks. Just read parts of a bit at The Atlantic babbling on about how the South was white supremacist, etc. Hoo Boy.
In either North or South, to vote you had to be free, 21, white, male, and a property owner.
Ignored that the South was INVADED--of course the South fought.
I started to write a reply and just wrote that babble off.
Smart move @Smokin Joe. Their minds are made up and they have no wish to be confused with facts.No worries there, there were in pretty short supply in that article.
No worries there, there were in pretty short supply in that article.
Criminal perp shoots a taser at a cop, and his funeral gets national coverage on CNN.Makes a guy wonder how many cops risked life and limb to help someone out this week who will barely get a mention in the local paper, if that.
What a country.....
DC Patriot -- thanks for the image posted in #177 above.
Here's an excerpt from my re-reading of Thomas Chittum's "Civil War II" just a few minutes ago.
Bear in mind he wrote this more than 23 years ago:
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Civil War II will be preceded by a wave of urban riots that will last an entire summer and extend all across America in every major city. Make no mistake about it, the Los Angeles riot of '92 was Civil War II knocking on the door. Eventually, Civil War II will claw through the door and be upon us like a reptilian predator. These herald riots will be similar to the Angeles riot of '92 in that they will last for multiple days before the police and military assemble sufficient force to put them down, and there will be massive looting and burning of entire districts.
The first stage of this summer of riots will seem to be nothing more than the Los Angeles riot of '92 multiplied by most major cities. In this stage, it will still be possible to end that the crisis is manageable and temporary like Phase 3 riots. The riots will then shift into a decided military mode. Street gangs and minority militias will set up barricades, lay siege to police stations, take over television stations, capture entire cities, raise revolutionary flags, and demand negotiations with the federal government for financial relief of the cities, and redress of "racist injustices."
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That fits "CHAZ" to a "Z"...
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Criminal perp shoots a taser at a cop, and his funeral gets national coverage on CNN.
What a country.....
@catfish1957When you have a hammer...and they take your rubber mallet away.
CAREER criminal perp........
He wasn't a Boy Scout running a fever who didn't know what he was doing.
BTW,I am NOT saying that butthole cop shooting him was justified. It wasn't. The SOB deserves hard time for this instead of special consideration BECAUSE he was a trained cop that can't claim he didn't know better. You can bet everything you own that he would have happily locked YOUR ass up if you had done the same thing,and maybe given you a beatdown on the way to lock up.
When you have a hammer...and they take your rubber mallet away.
I wasn't there. I don't know what the cop saw, but they are trained to shoot if someone points a gun looking thingy at them. His less-than-lethal was gone. He shot. If the suspect hadn't fought, took the taser, and run, then pointed something (how good was the light?) at the cop, maybe he'd be bitching about it to his cellmate or have made bond by now. It took a bunch of screwing up to get his a$$ killed. Hard to muster up some sympathy for that, and I'm not a straight up "back the blue" type who thinks they do no wrong.
@Smokin JoeIf that is the case, then I agree. I was under the impression he had not been checked for weapons.
Nope,not gonna work. The cops had already patted him down searching for weapons,AND the cop had SEEN him take the lazer from his partner.
AND.....,you can bet the farm he would have happily locked YOUR ass up if he had caught you doing the same thing in the same circumstances.
I say we hold the trained professionals to at LEAST the same standards we hold ordinary citizens.
Granted,the rapidly cooling meat in the video is not the most sympathetic victim I have ever seen,but NEVER forget that a legal system that allows a cop to get away with killing someone like him for no good reason will also allow a cop to kill YOU for no good reason.
We either ALL have the same rights,or none of us have ANY rights.
If that is the case, then I agree. I was under the impression he had not been checked for weapons.
But he did have a weapon. The cop's Taser.What's the range on a Taser, and what range was he shot at?
What's the range on a Taser, and what range was he shot at?
If that is the case, then I agree. I was under the impression he had not been checked for weapons.
What's the range on a Taser, and what range was he shot at?
I think I understand the need to find a reason to believe it was a bad shoot. It makes sending an innocent man to prison to placate the mob in hopes to prevent a riot easier to swallow.Right, toss another to the wolves.
I don't agree with it, but it's where we are as a society.
If that is the case, then I agree. I was under the impression he had not been checked for weapons.
But he did have a weapon. The cop's Taser.
@Cyber Liberty ?Cmon @sneakypete ...even the disingenuous left has acknowledged that with the taser a perp is fully capable of disarming the officer of his service weapon. Argue to your hearts content, but the “its just a taser†dog won’t hunt.
You don't know diddly about Lazers,do you.
If they were so dangerous,why are ALL police trainees hit with lazers while in training as a part of the training?
@Cyber Liberty ?
You don't know diddly about Lazers,do you.
If they were so dangerous,why are ALL police trainees hit with lazers while in training as a part of the training?
Cmon @sneakypete ...even the disingenuous left has acknowledged that with the taser a perp is fully capable of disarming the officer of his service weapon. Argue to your hearts content, but the “its just a taser†dog won’t hunt.
Right, toss another to the wolves.
If he was not thoroughly searched, he may well have had a handgun tucked away.
Suspects have been put in the car, cuffed, and a firearm found on doing a better search.
Having a firearm would be a (felony, with the DUI) reason to fight to break free and run (if for no other reason than to ditch the gun).
I still don't know the range at which he was shot, but the idea of disabling the cop with the taser, taking his service weapon and causing further mayhem is not lost.
So let me set it up this way:
IF he was not searched thoroughly prior to the struggle.
No weapon other than the taser which can be lethal.
Partner was too far off to render direct aid if the cop was incapacitated before the suspect would have the cop's weapon.
The area was dark or in shadow (suspects don't run toward the light, ordinarily).
I would lean toward a good shoot.
If he was searched.
No weapon other than the taser which can be lethal.
Partner was close enough to render direct aid.
Area was well enough lit to determine he was presenting the taser and not a lethal weapon.
I would lean away from a good shoot.
It doesn't matter to the owner of the Wendy's who didn't shoot anyone. His business is in ruins.
Cmon @sneakypete ...even the disingenuous left has acknowledged that with the taser a perp is fully capable of disarming the officer of his service weapon. Argue to your hearts content, but the “its just a taser†dog won’t hunt.
I didn't say "Laser." I said Taser, and I know plenty about both.
I think he thought I was talking about a cat toy, with the red light. :shrug:
I was surprised to see somebody I thought knew me, go off on me like that. :shrug: :shrug:
True about the Wendy's owner. That's freakin raw and I'm glad they got the broad who did it.
I don't know if there was a search, just that he started fighting when they were trying to handcuff him, he was "fine" before that. Didn't see even a brief frisk (let alone a real search), which should have been on the body cam. And as for the partner, in the video it looked like he was pretty far away after the shot with the taser. That means it's probably not relevant if it was a non-lethal weapon because the suspect would have had his hands on a lethal one very quickly.
So, to me, the search is not as relevant. Diff'rent perspective, I guess. May not matter in the end, because if this cop isn't sacrificed to the volcano there will be more riots. If he gets acquitted on the Felony Murder, there will be more riots. There will be more riots anyway, because it's fun and it's already known the City won't do anything about it.
He'll be lucky to get a fair trial, in any venue, good or bad shoot. :shrug:
@Cyber Liberty
The dead thug was running AWAY from the cops,and was shot IN THE BACK. More than once.
No way in HELL is it a "good shoot" when the suspect is shot in the back UNLESS he is running at an officer or a fellow citizen with a weapon in his hand.
The video shows this was clearly not the case.
@Cyber Liberty
Brain fart. I MEANT "taser" and wrote lazer.
And you don't know diddly squat about them if you think they are deadly weapons.
I never said it's a "deadly weapon," (although misused by someone like the deceased they can kill by passing current through the heart). I said it incapacitated a cop, who's real gun could have been taken and used on the other cops.
I don't know as much as you, but I'm not effin' stupid, @sneakypete. What's the matter with you?
@Cyber Liberty
I am tired of EVERYBODY only seeing and supporting what holds up THEIR personal agendas.
As some time reality HAS to be allowed to intrude into the fog and shine a ray of light.
but
ANYBODY who has watched those videos with an open mind HAS to see that was not a "good shoot" in ANY respect.
No,it was NOT,IMHO a murder because it wasn't planned,but it WAS one degree of a homicide or another. I leave it to the courts and the jury to puzzle out that aspect of it,but it was clearly neither a "good shoot" as some claim,and nor was it a "murder" as others claim.
Then we can agree that Felony Murder, which carries a death sentence, is an overcharge. I'm good with that! That overcharge could result in an acquittal, touching off more riots.
@Cyber Liberty
The ONLY people that would be good for is the various Rev-Runds and other poverty pimps that would get big government contracts if they stop the riots.
Saying people like Sharpton and JJ are whores is demeaning to actual whores.
@Cyber Liberty
I am tired of EVERYBODY only seeing and supporting what holds up THEIR personal agendas.
As some time reality HAS to be allowed to intrude into the fog and shine a ray of light.
but
ANYBODY who has watched those videos with an open mind HAS to see that was not a "good shoot" in ANY respect.
No,it was NOT,IMHO a murder because it wasn't planned,but it WAS one degree of a homicide or another. I leave it to the courts and the jury to puzzle out that aspect of it,but it was clearly neither a "good shoot" as some claim,and nor was it a "murder" as others claim.
@sneakypete
You’re right...the JUSTIFIABLE kind
@Axeslinger@sneakypete
I just don't see it being justified in ANY respect.
@sneakypete
I know Pete...I think you’re wrong. You think CL and I are. It’s all good.
Not sure why this is the last part, ....
Not sure why this is the last part, it's quite apparent that they intend to keep doing this until America is destroyed.At least it appears that the coronavirus has scared most of them off the streets lately.
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Good stuff!
@Right_in_Virginia
I have absolutely no trouble at all calling that man "brother",and would happily fight alongside him,and kill to protect him.
Marvin R. Jeffcoat
@MarvinRJeffcoat
IMG_0281.MOV Well said all the way around.
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8:49 AM · Jul 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Salem Community Organizers #DemcastOR
@SOrganizers
#PortlandMoms #OrLeg #PDXMoms #OrPol #PDX #PortlandProtests #EndPoliceBrutality #BlackLivesMatter #EndSystemicRacism #MomsAreHere #NoJusticeNoPeace #PDXprotests
Video: https://twitter.com/SOrganizers/status/1285304005300637696
4:02 PM · Jul 20, 2020·Twitter Web App
Clypian
@Clypian
The #PortlandMoms are back again tonight. There are more than 35 in line right now and moms continue to join them. Yellow is their color tonight. #portland #PortlandProtest #portlandprotests #PortlandOregon #PortlandOR #oregon #BLMprotest #PDXprotests #PDX #clypiancoverage
Video: https://twitter.com/Clypian/status/1285061786950004736
11:59 PM · Jul 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Nick Knudsen
@DemWrite
There are reinforcements for the #PortlandMoms tonight.
“Moms are here! Feds stay clear!â€
“Moms are here! Feds stay clear!â€
“Moms are here! Feds stay clear!â€
Video: https://twitter.com/DemWrite/status/1285071594918834176
12:38 AM · Jul 20, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Andy Ngô
@MrAndyNgo
Some of the “moms†lauded in the media joined in on trying to break into the Portland federal courthouse. #PortlandRiots #PortlandMoms #antifa
Video: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1285549368125186051
8:17 AM · Jul 21, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
If I had a favorite ... pointing-down
@Right_in_VirginiaI'm still in favor of loading up a water tanker and doing a pepper drop. The next couple of forest fires might smell a bit like chipotle... :shrug:
You have to give the globalists credit (?) for being both ruthless and clever for pulling this off. If they had lined their barricades with huge,threatening thugs,nobody would feel any sympathy for them if the cops and normal people ever got tired of the crap,and started busting heads.
So they solved this problem by recruiting air-head soccer moms. Any attack on THAT front line by the authorities or even common citizens is going to be condemned passionately and the attack is going to do nothing but gain them sympathy and more followers.
That's why people need to be filming the people moving around in the background,and get their names and addresses. Not hard to figure out who is giving the orders. They are the people all the "secondary line leaders" keep going to in order to get their orders.
Andy Ngô @MrAndyNgoVideo at link: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1285839279843753985
I recognize a lot of the so-called “moms†as the same antifa women who dressed in black as recent as a couple days ago. They just put on a yellow shirt now for optics. Most of these people aren’t mothers & many don’t even identify as female. #PortlandRiots
3:29 AM · Jul 22, 2020
Here we sit. Had Trump taken quick and decisive action when this "mayhem" first started to stop the rioting it wouldn't have spread. He made threats to stop things several times and they called his bluffs; he did nothing. The mayhem continues in Oregon, Seattle, Austin, Aurora, Oakland, Omaha, L.A., what city is next?
@libertybele
Odd how it was planned,started,and being continued by the Dims and their RINO butt-buddies,yet you people are blaming Trump.
Plan on voting RINO/Left in the upcoming election "cause all dis bees Trumps falts!"?
@libertybele
Odd how it was planned,started,and being continued by the Dims and their RINO butt-buddies,yet you people are blaming Trump.
Plan on voting RINO/Left in the upcoming election "cause all dis bees Trumps falts!"?
@sneakypete
Got to admit Pete.... Trump's response has been a bit tepid for most of our tastes. Action over rhetoric.
I want to see some knocking heads.....
@libertybele
Odd how it was planned,started,and being continued by the Dims and their RINO butt-buddies,yet you people are blaming Trump.
Plan on voting RINO/Left in the upcoming election "cause all dis bees Trumps falts!"?
It is odd... and no blame for the politicians in those cities and the people that voted them into office.... :thud:
Of course the lack of action on the part of the mayor and governors are at fault, however, had Trump nipped all this noise in the bud when he first had a chance, the anarchists would have gotten the message early on that they wouldn't succeed; no, instead he makes idle threats and sends them the message that they can do what they want and get away with it.
Of course the lack of action on the part of the mayor and governors are at fault, however, had Trump nipped all this noise in the bud when he first had a chance, the anarchists would have gotten the message early on that they wouldn't succeed; no, instead he makes idle threats and sends them the message that they can do what they want and get away with it.
Can we quit blaming the President for the current execution of a well organized and widespread Communist Plot?
Coming just after a coup attempt by a Communist infiltrated political Party
On the heels and maybe even in the midst of a viral Pandemic created in a Communist Lab,
let out by a Communist country,
Lied about by that same Communist Country and the "Health Organization" of a largely Communist Global organization.
There is one word which repeats there, which is the unifying thread through these events.
The setup the Communists are looking for is a Rematch of the streets of Berlin, playing Communists vs Fascists, and even though there are no fascists, they are trying to build the case to call someone one. Don't play into that.
The time will come to round up and deal with the lawbreakers and their enablers.
For now, they expose themselves and justify the charges which will be brought in the future. As they grw bold, more can see them for who they are.
I am NOT blaming the President for the violence itself, nor am I blaming him for the failures of the city mayors and the governors of the state. I get that. I am blaming him for making threats several times and not following through till things snowballed and got out of control.
This isn't the first time that he's made a statement(s) and backpedaled -- we are seeing the consequences of his bluffs. Not acceptable.
You have been claiming that the President not swooping in and busting heads is wrong. This is one of the very few things about which we disagree.
Not saying that he needed to "bust heads" -- only that he should have taken action the very first time that he threatened to do so -- he made that threat several times and now things are out of control. As President you can't make threats and not follow through; you're threats or what you say then becomes meaningless; especially to thugs.
You say "Toe-MAY-Toe," I say "Toe-MAH-Toe." Some call what you say are "threats," "promises." It's reasonable to give a warning before you drop the hammer. On a small scale, the Mods deal with that here on a daily basis. We warn before we kick ass. Trump gave a warning, and they'd better heed it. They won't, so there will be head breaking. It's not time yet. It will be when the hue and cry begins.
Lanny Davis
@LannyDavis
Violent protesters lighting fires and using violence in Portland should wear @realDonaldTrump buttons. That is who they are helping.Progressives in Portland need to call them out, including the Mayor. ReTweet please. Don’t allow violent people help @realDonaldTrump
7:39 AM · Jul 27, 2020 from Travilah, MD·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/LannyDavis/status/1287714169551294464
Not saying that he needed to "bust heads" -- only that he should have taken action the very first time that he threatened to do so -- he made that threat several times and now things are out of control. As President you can't make threats and not follow through; you're threats or what you say then becomes meaningless; especially to thugs.
Credit where credit is due, at least one of these morons is calling out the BS in Portland...
Of course the lack of action on the part of the mayor and governors are at fault, however, had Trump nipped all this noise in the bud when he first had a chance, the anarchists would have gotten the message early on that they wouldn't succeed; no, instead he makes idle threats and sends them the message that they can do what they want and get away with it.
Andy Ngô
@MrAndyNgo
Antifa rioters are throwing Molotov cocktails toward federal officers at the courthouse. Earlier in the day, police found a cache of ready-made incendiary devices and fully loaded magazines. Video by @livesmattershow. #PortlandRiots
Video: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1287660333822144512
4:05 AM · Jul 27, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Andy Ngô
@MrAndyNgo
Rioters hiding behind shields shine powerful lasers at federal officers to blind them. Antifa are organized into many units who carry out specific tasks. Those who aren’t fighting act as barriers, cop watchers, resuppliers & “medics.†This was recorded 25 July. #PortlandRiots
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1287639801718435840
2:43 AM · Jul 27, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Mike Balsamo
@MikeBalsamo1
The lights inside the courthouse have to be turned off for safety & the light from high-powered lasers bounced across the lobby almost all night. The fear is palpable. Three officers were struck in the last few weeks & still haven’t regained their vision.
Video: https://twitter.com/MikeBalsamo1/status/1287606653815156736
12:32 AM · Jul 27, 2020·Twitter Web App
We've been over this issue and have already discussed the "timing" of what you think Trump should have already done. Trump is playing this as he should....cautiously and smartly. Right now... these riots are illustrating to American voters exactly what the leftist Democrats represent, what they're for and ok with, and how things would be if they are given ultimate power back in November. At least, that's the message they're getting. But those of us that know these leftists and know how they roll know that no such "protests" would be allowed by them if they were in complete control. They would have sent in "the feds" so fast everyone's heads would spin. (insert pic of jackbooted thugs snatching Elián González from his legal guardians and family)
What you want Trump to have done would have him already under another impeachment proceeding for "acting like a dictator" (something the left has already accused him of), IMO. Making a threat and not following through with that threat is not impeachable. Just...sayin.
We arrest and jail people caught shining these lasers on landing airplanes, so why are we letting these punks off?
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Democrats in Congress and their lackeys in media are spitting on the constitutional right to peaceful assembly. And so in reality they’re spitting on YOU, the law abiding American. Remember that on November 3rd.
Andrew McCarthy: Trump critics wrongly mount political attack on his use of fed law officers to protect cities
Demagogues aligning themselves with subversives against federal agents are wrong
Fox News, Jul 24, 2020, Andrew C. McCarthy
“Unidentified stormtroopers†is what House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., called the law enforcement agents of the Department of Homeland Security struggling to protect the federal courthouse that Portland, Ore., rioters have been firebombing.
“The president’s personal militia,†chimed in Tom Ridge, the nation’s first Homeland Security secretary.
It’s shameful.
Never is it more critical for the nation’s senior officials and elder statesmen to present a united American front than in times of insurrection. No matter how we may feel about the underlying political grievances, when peaceful protest descends into violent subversion, or — more accurately — when essentially violent subversion is allowed to masquerade as peaceful protest, there needs to be ringing condemnation and support for law enforcement.
Yet, Democrats and Trump-abhorring Republicans cannot get past their petty political score-settling, even for the purpose of supporting law enforcement against violent anti-American radicals.
Taking aim at Trump, and promoting the Democratic narrative that the president is a dictator using federal agents as a military force, Ridge asserted: “It would be a cold day in hell before I would consent to an uninvited, unilateral intervention into one of my cities.â€
But DHS performs such missions all the time. One of its component agencies is the Federal Protective Service. FPS’s job, according to its own mission statement, includes the protection of U.S. government “infrastructure, services, and the people who provide or receive them.†This includes providing “integrated security and law enforcement services to more than 9,500 federal facilities nationwide.â€
By statute, this includes federal courthouses. Yes, DHS agents go into cities all across the country, every day, uninvited by the state and local governments, and unilaterally protect federal courthouses and other federal property — even when those facilities are not being firebombed, vandalized, and otherwise forcibly attacked by radicals and arsonists.
If DHS agents didn’t do this, they’d be flouting their legal obligations. If the president did not direct them to do this, it would be a dereliction of his solemn constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed.
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Just a sampling of what the President is up against @libertybele
I'm well aware of what he's up against ....again my point is ... had he gone in when he first announced he was going to --- without announcing what he was going to do -- just used his authority and got the job done, this would be behind us. He has shown indecisiveness and lack of leadership. I don't think that there is any doubt, that things are completely out of control and the mayhem is spreading.
Tom Ridge is absolutely correct; "Never is it more critical for the nation’s senior officials and elder statesmen to present a united American front than in times of insurrection. No matter how we may feel about the underlying political grievances, when peaceful protest descends into violent subversion, or — more accurately — when essentially violent subversion is allowed to masquerade as peaceful protest, there needs to be ringing condemnation and support for law enforcement."
So ... I've said all that I'm going to say on this issue. My opinion is much different than most in here, so I'll refrain from further comment and I'll sit and watch how things unfold for the next 3 mos.
God Bless America and God help us all!
RinVa writes:
"Without an invitation from the state's political leadership, sending in federal troops would trigger a legal fight for the ages."
NO.
It will send an immediate message to the communists that we intend to fight back, with the intent of defeating them completely.
RinVa writes:
"Without an invitation from the state's political leadership, sending in federal troops would trigger a legal fight for the ages."
NO.
It will send an immediate message to the communists that we intend to fight back, with the intent of defeating them completely.
I get that @Fishrrman ... but it doesn't change what will quickly become fact: The city/state will file an injunction in court, which will be granted. And we won't know the outcome until the suit works its way through the Appellate Court (maybe twice) and then possibly to the Supremes. This legal action sends a counter-message to the one we've sent.???
Between you and me, I'd prefer not to give John Roberts the deciding vote on the constitutionality of the Insurrection Act.
I'm well aware of what he's up against ....again my point is ... had he gone in when he first announced he was going to --- without announcing what he was going to do -- just used his authority and got the job done, this would be behind us. He has shown indecisiveness and lack of leadership. I don't think that there is any doubt, that things are completely out of control and the mayhem is spreading.
Tom Ridge is absolutely correct; "Never is it more critical for the nation’s senior officials and elder statesmen to present a united American front than in times of insurrection. No matter how we may feel about the underlying political grievances, when peaceful protest descends into violent subversion, or — more accurately — when essentially violent subversion is allowed to masquerade as peaceful protest, there needs to be ringing condemnation and support for law enforcement."
So ... I've said all that I'm going to say on this issue. My opinion is much different than most in here, so I'll refrain from further comment and I'll sit and watch how things unfold for the next 3 mos.
God Bless America and God help us all!
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That's a stretch don't you think, since presidents have been using the Insurrection Act since 1807 and 'W' extended the president's power under this Act? So to rule it unconstitutional, would mean that Jefferson, Jackson, Hayes, Grant, Cleveland, Wilson, Hoover, Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson and Bush all acted unconstitutionally. I don't think so.
If troops were sent in without warning, today's lead story in the papers would be the new Impeachment, with the result in doubt this time. A lot of weak-kneed Pubbie Senators would defect.
Trump gave the warning, and now we wait. It's the only way it could have been played and maintain a shot at reelection. Had he said nothing, then that impotence would have been the argument of the day, all day. It's truly a no-win scenario, but only in the short term.
Being quite late to this thread, I apologize if my suggestions have already been debated.
I don't know what is the right political response for Trump to take on the current state of lawlessness. But I believe the right Constitutional response would be the following :
Local law and order is a local issue. Consistent with the principles of Federalism found in the Constitution, the US Federal Government will take no independent action regarding specific crimes, real or alleged, the jurisdiction over which is Reserved to the states and to the people. The citizens of Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle, and every other local government in the country are sovereign over their own local affairs and fully competent to enact their sovereign will through their own local elected leaders. Those citizens are now enjoying the results for which they have voted, and if they are satisfied with the state of law and order prevailing in their communities then by all means they should continue returning the same elected leaders to local office.
Requests by state and local governments for Federal assistance to local law enforcement will be considered in accord with existing Federal statues. However no Federal assistance of any kind intended for crime prevention, law enforcement, or recovery of communities destroyed during a breakdown of civic order, will be available to any state or local jurisdiction which willfully refuses to maintain law and order.
Federal law will be enforced without exception in every locality of the United States. Evidence of Federal crimes or the violation of Constitutional rights should be submitted to the United States Attorney with jurisdiction over the allegation. Federal law enforcement officers are not "troops" and will enforce Federal authority over the Delegated powers in every square inch of the United States, in numbers determined by the United States Federal Government, with no regard for the statements or preferences of local officials. Resistance to or interference with Federal law enforcement, or with any other duty of a Federal official, whether committed by individuals, groups, or state and local officials, will be met with overwhelming force of whatever character is necessary to maintain absolute Federal sovereignty over any power delegated in the United States Constitution, followed by vigorous prosecution to the fullest extent allowed in the Federal courts.
Federal facilities such as monuments, courthouses, and office buildings will be secured by Federal Law enforcement officers. Federal officials who are placed at risk of permanent harm or death in the conduct of these duties are authorized to respond with deadly force. Any person in the company of those threatening the security of Federal officials, without regard for their active role in the threat, will be considered as fully participating in the threat and will be in immediate peril of serious physical harm including death and will be later liable for prosecution in the Federal courts. This policy is effective immediately upon announcement, with the specific effect that lasers will be considered immediate targets for live ammunition.
I would have this policy publicly announced at the WH and the Justice Department and allow no questions in either venue.
Thanks for your post! Better late than never, and you still have a life. I pray it is going well, out in the meat world!
What you describe looks exactly like what's being done, and there have been announcements along the way.
Thanks for your kind wishes @Cyber Liberty.
I think what's (perhaps) different about my suggestion is that it states in bureaucratic-sounding terms "If you laser a Federal facility tonight, or if you're even standing near someone who does, you are likely to be shot dead in the street, and if you do happen to survive that we're putting a mint on your pillow at the nearest Federal penitentiary." And a bit less provocatively, it pretty much dares state and local officials to resist.
Hard for me to believe I'm siding with the Feds, it's not my normal posture. But there *are* Delegated Powers, and just as the Reserved Powers must be respected, so must the Delegated Powers be respected as well.
Thanks for your post! Better late than never, and you still have a life. I pray it is going well, out in the meat world!
What you describe looks exactly like what's being done, and there have been announcements along the way.
1. The locals are indeed getting the law enforcement they want, good and hard. In the case of Portland, Antifa has been participating in violent riots for a couple years now, so the local citizens know full well what happens when the municipal government and rioters are in league. They reelected the worst, and installed even more radicals as Councilmen. They did so with eyes wide open, so let them stew. It's in accordance with Federalism.
2. Federal assistance is possible, but not logical if the locals permitted the riots and is subject to existing laws. They must first ask, and they are doing the opposite in the point 4.
3. Federal Laws that applied when Arkansas tried to prevent school integration still apply. It's long been established Federal military can move in when any Federal laws are being violated, not just property crimes and Murder.
4. The Federal authority to protect Federal property and human resources is a fact that cannot be ignored. The Feds tried and executed Timothy McVeigh for precisely this reason...bombing a Federal Building, and killing Federal employees (and their children). What do we have today? Mayors in the worst Hellholes are threatening to arrest Federal Agents exercising their legal authority, under constitutional orders. The Mayors will fail if any of their threats reach realization.
Thanks for your kind wishes @Cyber Liberty.
I think what's (perhaps) different about my suggestion is that it states in bureaucratic-sounding terms "If you laser a Federal facility tonight, or if you're even standing near someone who does, you are likely to be shot dead in the street, and if you do happen to survive that we're putting a mint on your pillow at the nearest Federal penitentiary." And a bit less provocatively, it pretty much dares state and local officials to resist.
Hard for me to believe I'm siding with the Feds, it's not my normal posture. But there *are* Delegated Powers, and just as the Reserved Powers must be respected, so must the Delegated Powers be respected as well.
Ya right @sneakypete
I never said that it was ALL Trump's fault only that he had ample opportunity when this chaos first began to act and he didn't - now the country is paying the price. Should I remind you that he publicly claimed that he was going to stop the chaos a long time ago -- right around the time that the anarchists tore down the barricades around the WH and the President took a walk across the street to St. John's .... now the chaos has spread and things are out of control....bigly.
You're also assuming that this election is going to make a difference -- I'm not.
The demise of the country may possibly happen at a slower rate under Trump than Biden and the socialists, but the end result is going to be the same.
Stop with the if you don't vote for Trump you must be a DEM b.s. IF Trump isn't going to take this country in a more positive direction -- then you are correct I won't be voting for him. I will not be voting period other than I might vote for a couple of conservatives down ballot.
That's a stretch don't you think, since presidents have been using the Insurrection Act since 1807 and 'W' extended the president's power under this Act? So to rule it unconstitutional, would mean that Jefferson, Jackson, Hayes, Grant, Cleveland, Wilson, Hoover, Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson and Bush all acted unconstitutionally. I don't think so.
Can we quit blaming the President for the current execution of a well organized and widespread Communist Plot?
Coming just after a coup attempt by a Communist infiltrated political Party
On the heels and maybe even in the midst of a viral Pandemic created in a Communist Lab,
let out by a Communist country,
Lied about by that same Communist Country and the "Health Organization" of a largely Communist Global organization.
There is one word which repeats there, which is the unifying thread through these events.
The setup the Communists are looking for is a Rematch of the streets of Berlin, playing Communists vs Fascists, and even though there are no fascists, they are trying to build the case to call someone one. Don't play into that.
The time will come to round up and deal with the lawbreakers and their enablers.
For now, they expose themselves and justify the charges which will be brought in the future. As they grw bold, more can see them for who they are.
AND........there you are,right there is your post,claiming it is Trump's fault because he hasn't stopped what the DNC in concert with their RINO flunkies put into motion by sending in the army and gunning down rioters and other leftist fools.
Isn't it time for you to put your Big Girl Panties on and think about what the media reaction would have been world-wide IF he had done what you and many wished?
Is there ANY doubt in your mind impeachment proceedings would have began,and chances are he would have been impeached?
PLEASE tell us all how that would have helped manners in ANY respect. I am all ears.
He is doing what he MUST do and what is within the law for him to do by sending in federal agents to protect federal property.
If the Dims are foolish enough to move to open rebellion and a call to overthrow the government,THEN he will be justified to send in troops. I have very little doubt that is where we will be right before the election. If nothing else,they can use that for a "justification" to postpone the elections. Hell,that might even be their plan. Even they know they can't win an election without the mail-in balloting and the cheating it affords them.
Ok,you have given up. So why are you hear bitching at those of us who haven't?
Oh,woe is me!
ALL IS LOST!
May I suggest suicide as a possible option?
Well,after all,it's ALL about YOU,right?
No. Under the Insurrection Act they do not have to be asked.
In 2016, Public Law 114-328 was amended to include Guam and the US Virgin Islands under Ch. 13 jurisdiction. §252: "Use of militia and armed forces to enforce Federal authority" currently reads:
Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act_of_1807
Paging Jerry Nadler, please pick up the white courtesy phone.
While I heard an assertion the Insurrection Act will be invoked, I have not heard for a fact it's actually been done. :shrug:
From what I can see, your primary objection has been a threat has been issued, and not followed up on. It's a good point, but it begs the question, "When is it appropriate to do so? Is there sufficient public demand?" That second question is very difficult to answer, because the press is doing its level best to undermine any attempts for the public to demonstrate their wishes on the subject.
I gave you that information (in bold highlights above) and IF you click on the link and scroll down you will see a list of presidents who have invoked the Insurrection Act throughout history. Who in the heck cares about public demand for crying out loud; our country is being destroyed and cities are burning. Seriously?
I'm going to try one more time. First ... if the use of the insurrection Act goes through the courts ... as it will today @libertybele it will end up with the Supremes who will be given the opportunity to rule on it's constitutionality and if that passes --- it's application. I would prefer John Roberts, based on his recent voting record, not be give an chance to cast the deciding vote.
As for using the act ...here's it's recent history (from 1967). I want you to note that in each case, the State requested the Federal assistance. This is one hell of a precedent supporting the "other" side should the continued use and application hit the courts:
Date President State Locale
Request
Jul 24, 1967 Lyndon B. Johnson Yes Detroit, Michigan
Apr 5, 1968 Lyndon B. Johnson Yes Washington, D.C.
Apr 7, 1968 Lyndon B. Johnson Yes Baltimore, Maryland
Apr 7, 1968 Lyndon B. Johnson Yes Chicago, Illinois
Sep 20, 1989 George H. W. Bush Yes Saint Croix, United States Virgin Islands
May 1, 1992 George H. W. Bush Yes Los Angeles County, California
Mayors in the worst Hellholes are threatening to arrest Federal Agents exercising their legal authority, under constitutional orders. The Mayors will fail if any of their threats reach realization.
I saw, I clicked and I scrolled. It doesn't answer the question "Did Trump 'Invoke' the law?" I don't know that he did, or if it's even required.
And my point stands: I think you are premature in demanding casualties for the evening news. That is in no way to be construed it's not ever going to be mature, it's more of a question of "when" than "if."
QuoteSuggesting to someone suicide is really over the top.
@libertybele
Why? Seems entirely reasonable for someone with your loser mindset.QuoteI shouldn't even dignify your post with a response, but try putting your Big Boy Pants on and read the Insurrection Act -- which the President has full authority to use.
WHERE does it state he has the authority to act unilaterally,without even the permission of the local or state authorities,never mind written requests.
I gave you that information (in bold highlights above) and IF you click on the link and scroll down you will see a list of presidents who have invoked the Insurrection Act throughout history. Who in the heck cares about public demand for crying out loud; our country is being destroyed and cities are burning. Seriously?
Yes, I'll try one more time .... What you seem to be conveniently omitting is that several presidents went in without being asked. Trump needs to grow a pair right now. Our Republic IS being destroyed.
Again... Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion.
Again -- going to court would mean that ALL the past presidents that have envoked the Insurrection Act, did so unconstitutionally. Including DEM presidents. I don't think so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act_of_1807
@libertybele
Why? Seems entirely reasonable for someone with your loser mindset.
WHERE does it state he has the authority to act unilaterally,without even the permission of the local or state authorities,never mind written requests.
@Right_in_Virginia'
I can maybe see Jabba the Nadler picking up a BLACK courtesy phone,but never a white one. There might be someone around with a camera or video recorder.
@Right_in_Virginia
Federal officers would be entirely justified to have police snipers take out anyone pointing a lazer in their direction.
Self-defense.
In 2006, Dubya considered intervening in Louisiana's response to Hurricane Katrina -- despite the refusal from Louisiana's governor, but this was inconsistent with past precedent, politically difficult, and potentially unconstitutional. A provision of the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 amended the insurrection act to permit military intervention without state consent, in case of an emergency that hindered the enforcement of laws.
Dubya signed this amendment into law, but all fifty state governors issued a joint statement against it, and the changes were repealed in January 2008.
So not only does the precedent from 1967 through its last use in 1992 stands today: Activation of Federal forces under the Insurrection Act requires a request for assistance from the affected State --- add to this precedent the objection in 2008 from all 50 states to any changes to the application of the Insurrection Act and the repeal of the Amendment attempting to do just that.
@libertybele Today's courts are more likely to abolish the Insurrection Act than uphold it. It's a good idea to meet history where you are, not where you want to when trying to revise existing law.
In 2006, Dubya considered intervening in Louisiana's response to Hurricane Katrina -- despite the refusal from Louisiana's governor, but this was inconsistent with past precedent, politically difficult, and potentially unconstitutional. A provision of the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 amended the insurrection act to permit military intervention without state consent, in case of an emergency that hindered the enforcement of laws.
Dubya signed this amendment into law, but all fifty state governors issued a joint statement against it, and the changes were repealed in January 2008.
So not only does the precedent from 1967 through its last use in 1992 stands today: Activation of Federal forces under the Insurrection Act requires a request for assistance from the affected State --- add to this precedent the objection in 2008 from all 50 states to any changes to the application of the Insurrection Act and the repeal of the Amendment attempting to do just that.
@libertybele Today's courts are more likely to abolish the Insurrection Act than uphold it. It's a good idea to meet history where you are, not where you want to when trying to revise existing law.
Yes, @Right_in_Virginia I realize the situation with 'W' -- but the Insurrection Act still stands.
I'm not quite to the point of shooting the rioters just yet, but they're doing everything they can to push me in that direction. And I can't believe I have to side with the Feds as well! I'm a "Won't Comply" sort of fellow, usually, but that's not to say there aren't constitutionally Delegated Powers that must be respected if we are to be a nation of Laws, and not Men.
If I need an FCC license to operate a radio transmitter, for example, then it's off to the Feds I go to get one. No problem, it's been the law since 1934.
Ok ... I misunderstood. I do not know if he has or hasn't. I'm assuming, based on the continued mayhem that he has not OR has not utilized his authority to the fullest.
Just a thought -- regardless of who is elected, do you really think that after the election this crap will stop? Do you think Biden or whoever fills his spot is just going to let this continue or will they quiet things just as other presidents have or maybe even allow U.N. troops in to help.? Gee -- the DEMS come in a save the day??
Trump has the authority. He needs to use it. He stops the rioting and attack on our country = hero to his voting base and my guess is other voters are waiting for him to do something.
How about some lasers of our own set up and programed to return fire to any incoming laser detected. Would that be ok with you?
Pete wrote:
"If the Dims are foolish enough to move to open rebellion and a call to overthrow the government,THEN he will be justified to send in troops..."
I'm realize I'm dumb, Pete, but could you explain to me the difference between what's going on in Portland right now and "open rebellion"?
Really.
I'm asking.
Politically inadvisable @sneakypete And damn it to hell, this counts, too.
How about some lasers of our own set up and programed to return fire to any incoming laser detected. Would that be ok with you?
We arrest and jail people caught shining these lasers on landing airplanes, so why are we letting these punks off?@Cyber Liberty
Pete wrote:
"If the Dims are foolish enough to move to open rebellion and a call to overthrow the government,THEN he will be justified to send in troops..."
I'm realize I'm dumb, Pete, but could you explain to me the difference between what's going on in Portland right now and "open rebellion"?
Really.
I'm asking.
If we have to make the case the lasers are harmful, then it would probably be illegal to set up unmanned booby traps. Lethal burglar alarms are illegal, for example. :shrug:
@Cyber Liberty
Good question, Cyber.
I haven't been watching film of these riots, so I just did. Seems peaceful protests are during the day, then at night, the Antifa comes and fights, throwing stuff over the fence at the officers, and one can see the laser lights hitting officers behind the fence. That isn't attempted murder, but it is likely blinding an officer for life.
Where are the cops? Grab these laser people and stick them under the jail to stay in darkness the rest of their lives. Ok, sure, give them a couple of pints of water and some stale bread every day (just wipe the mold off the bread), to keep them alive in the darkness. Truly, cops are going to be blind - stop these laser people.
@Right_in_Virginia
No question about it being politically inadvisable,but it would certainly be legally AND morally justified.
I don't recall saying anything about unmanned. Someone is flying all the drones we use these days. They just don't happen to be in the drone.
It's been said three Federal Agents have been blinded, and they have not regained their sight. This is serious assault and it's not being addressed in the leftist media.
I think the feds should bring out the water cannons. But instead of water, do what the Israelis do: Spray a concoction that smells of highly concentrated skunk urine. It cannot be washed off the skin or clothes and the smell lingers for several weeks.
Would make the miscreants easy to identify, although the arresting officers would probably need to wear gas masks!
I think the feds should bring out the water cannons. But instead of water, do what the Israelis do: Spray a concoction that smells of highly concentrated skunk urine. It cannot be washed off the skin or clothes and the smell lingers for several weeks.
Would make the miscreants easy to identify, although the arresting officers would probably need to wear gas masks!
@benldguy
I like it,even though it could make attending meetings awkward for the undercover agents that mingle with the crowds.
I think the feds should bring out the water cannons. But instead of water, do what the Israelis do: Spray a concoction that smells of highly concentrated skunk urine. It cannot be washed off the skin or clothes and the smell lingers for several weeks.
Would make the miscreants easy to identify, although the arresting officers would probably need to wear gas masks!
@benldguyI like it too, but it could cause the price of tomato juice to spike.... :shrug:
I like it,even though it could make attending meetings awkward for the undercover agents that mingle with the crowds.
At this point...I'm of the mid t pul out the Feds and just let the domestic terroristic assholes burn these Liberal sh*tholes burn to the ground.
People voted for the "leadership" that's allowing this to happen...so they should reap the results of their own actions.
At this point...I'm of the mid t pul out the Feds and just let the domestic terroristic assholes burn these Liberal sh*tholes burn to the ground.:thumbsup:
People voted for the "leadership" that's allowing this to happen...so they should reap the results of their own actions.
At this point...I'm of the mid t pul out the Feds and just let the domestic terroristic assholes burn these Liberal sh*tholes burn to the ground.
People voted for the "leadership" that's allowing this to happen...so they should reap the results of their own actions.
Problem with that thought though is that they are being allowed to break laws and they are getting away with it. What's to prevent them from continuing on and venturing into more conservative areas? Keep in mind that they are growing in numbers and are becoming armed.For decades the left has been calling law and order types fascists and have been on a tear to break up the rules.
I forsee this continuing and in the event that we actually see another election, there is a possibility that states and cities that were once under conservative leadership, because of demographics may see a change of leadership from conservative to liberal...it's not like everybody can pack up and leave when leadership changes.
The insurrection needs to be stopped and those participating in the chaos need to be punished otherwise it will continue to spread.
| At this point...I'm of the mid t pul out the Feds and just let the domestic terroristic assholes burn these Liberal sh*tholes burn to the ground. People voted for the "leadership" that's allowing this to happen...so they should reap the results of their own actions. |
At this point...I'm of the mid t pul out the Feds and just let the domestic terroristic assholes burn these Liberal sh*tholes burn to the ground.
People voted for the "leadership" that's allowing this to happen...so they should reap the results of their own actions.
While I agree that the voters got the government that they voted for, pulling the feds out would, in my opinion, set a bad precedent because they are FEDERAL officers protecting FEDERAL property. This has nothing to do with the local voters nor with the local government in spite of the $500/hour fine being leveled by the city against the feds because they put up a fence.
Absolutely agree. A bad precedent has been set; the anarchists have been allowed to get away with their destruction. Things should have never been allowed to get out of control.I agree, but they should have been stopped by the Mayors or Governors of the respective states.
Welcome by the way to The Briefing Room -- I'm sure you'll will enjoy this forum as much as I have. :beer:
bele wrote:
"A bad precedent has been set; the anarchists have been allowed to get away with their destruction. Things should have never been allowed to get out of control."
To which Joe replied:
"I agree, but they should have been stopped by the Mayors or Governors of the respective states."
Joe, don't you see that this approach cannot work when the "mayors or governors" are ON THE SIDE of the communist insurgents?
It not 3 sides:
1. the insurgents
2. the mayors/governors
3. us
It's JUST TWO.
This is why the ONLY way to stop them is to use "the force we have" -- federal agents and the U.S. Army.
Same as in 1861, except that the communists will become a much more tenacious enemy...
Yeah, back them the Democrats just wanted to own other people.Back then, my ancestors defended their land from invasion, best they could.
Back then, my ancestors defended their land from invasion, best they could.
bele wrote:1861 had decades of attempted negotiations to prevent the final Well, I agree with you, in that those who were ostensibly the people charged with upholding the law have engaged in some outrageous acts of nonfeasance which indicate they are tacitly, if not overtly, on the side of the rioters.
"A bad precedent has been set; the anarchists have been allowed to get away with their destruction. Things should have never been allowed to get out of control."
To which Joe replied:
"I agree, but they should have been stopped by the Mayors or Governors of the respective states."
Joe, don't you see that this approach cannot work when the "mayors or governors" are ON THE SIDE of the communist insurgents?
It not 3 sides:
1. the insurgents
2. the mayors/governors
3. us
It's JUST TWO.
This is why the ONLY way to stop them is to use "the force we have" -- federal agents and the U.S. Army.
Same as in 1861, except that the communists will become a much more tenacious enemy...
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That time you’re driving in Virginia and the Attorney General spots a group of people in front of a police precinct showing their support for the police.
AG to FBI Detail: “Can we make a quick U-Turn? I want to jump out and thank those people.â€
Watch!
Video: https://twitter.com/KerriKupecDOJ/status/1291530264229945344
I'm surprised Governor Blackface didn't have him arrested for not wearing a mask.
Trump can let them destroy local areas all they wants, but there is federal property in a lot of those areas and Trump has every right to defend those properties with any lawful means he chooses.No, it is an obligation he swore to do.
000hehehehe Even Gov. Blackface isn't THAT stupid!
No, it is an obligation he swore to do.
Actually no where in the Constitution is the President sworn to defend property or protect citizens; his duty is to uphold the Constitution.
The Federal Protective Service Mission Statement
To prevent, protect, respond to and recover from terrorism, criminal acts, and other hazards threatening the U.S. Government’s critical infrastructure, services, and the people who provide or receive them.
https://www.dhs.gov/topic/federal-protective-service (https://www.dhs.gov/topic/federal-protective-service)
Sorry, Ed, but the Federal Protective Service Mission Statement is not part of the US Constitution.
Sorry, Ed, but the Federal Protective Service Mission Statement is not part of the US Constitution.
The clear path I see is to declare ANTIFA a terrorist organization (there are a few others I'd put on that list, but ANTIFA is a great start). Track their funding and seize it. It is for terrorist or terrorist support activities. Sort their networks, and round up the leaders. Prosecute for conspiracy, for domestic terrorism, etc. There is all that room in the prisons thanks to the COVID releases, fill it.
Neither is the FAA but it is legally authorized by statute.Back to the President's mission, his oath is to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States...(https://miro.medium.com/max/500/1*bGYCtfKPB43MN5RfBTGcPw.jpeg)
Back to the President's mission, his oath is to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States...
Actually no where in the Constitution is the President sworn to defend property or protect citizens; his duty is to uphold the Constitution.Which is exactly what he is doing, defending the Constitution.
So, then the president has no obligation for border security, quelling riots or even balancing the budget.. Not in the constitution either...to provide for the common defense... is right there in the preamble.
Back to the President's mission, his oath is to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States...(https://miro.medium.com/max/500/1*bGYCtfKPB43MN5RfBTGcPw.jpeg)
@Smokin JoeOh, my. What next? Parking tickets?
You seem to have forgotten this part of the Constitution:
Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution requires the President to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.â€
I'm pretty darned sure that means ALL of them!
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii (https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii)
Oh, my. What next? Parking tickets?Totally agree....
He's defending Federal Property. That's good. But there is a limit.
Other people have been tasked with defending these cities, those States, with upholding local and State Laws.
That isn't the President's job. His is to enforce Federal Law.
Oh, my. What next? Parking tickets?
He's defending Federal Property. That's good. But there is a limit.
Other people have been tasked with defending these cities, those States, with upholding local and State Laws.
That isn't the President's job. His is to enforce Federal Law.
Oh, my. What next? Parking tickets?
He's defending Federal Property. That's good. But there is a limit.
Other people have been tasked with defending these cities, those States, with upholding local and State Laws.
That isn't the President's job. His is to enforce Federal Law.
@Smokin Joe
Seems so simple you would think anyone would be able to understand it,wouldn't you?
But with the 8 hour news cycle, more than ever, "Image IS Reality!"Well, what the GOvernors and Mayors of those Leftist stinkholes are waiting for is for people, just ordinary people, to get together and put an end to the looting, burning, civil disorder, threats to people and general terrorization of the populace.
They believe the image of federal law enforcement, cracking heads of "mostly peaceful" protesters is a winner for them.
It didn't fare them well in 1968 IIRC.
Well, what the GOvernors and Mayors of those Leftist stinkholes are waiting for is for people, just ordinary people, to get together and put an end to the looting, burning, civil disorder, threats to people and general terrorization of the populace.
If that happens, it will be a carnage, because people have had enough. The self same police, now defunded, will magically have those funds and more restored to pursue, with vigor, the evil vigilantes who wiped out/severely beat/shot up all those poor, innocent, Molotov Cocktail/crowbar/skateboard/excrement bag wielding peaceful protesters, and the call for gun control will again be sounded from the same rooftops where people recently voted to restore order.
That's when the National Guard would be called in and the POTUS would be pressed for 'assistance', and not a moment sooner.
Patience people, stand firm, contain it as you must, and let it burn.
Well, what the GOvernors and Mayors of those Leftist stinkholes are waiting for is for people, just ordinary people, to get together and put an end to the looting, burning, civil disorder, threats to people and general terrorization of the populace.
If that happens, it will be a carnage, because people have had enough. The self same police, now defunded, will magically have those funds and more restored to pursue, with vigor, the evil vigilantes who wiped out/severely beat/shot up all those poor, innocent, Molotov Cocktail/crowbar/skateboard/excrement bag wielding peaceful protesters, and the call for gun control will again be sounded from the same rooftops where people recently voted to restore order.
That's when the National Guard would be called in and the POTUS would be pressed for 'assistance', and not a moment sooner.
Patience people, stand firm, contain it as you must, and let it burn.
Well, what the GOvernors and Mayors of those Leftist stinkholes are waiting for is for people, just ordinary people, to get together and put an end to the looting, burning, civil disorder, threats to people and general terrorization of the populace.
If that happens, it will be a carnage, because people have had enough. The self same police, now defunded, will magically have those funds and more restored to pursue, with vigor, the evil vigilantes who wiped out/severely beat/shot up all those poor, innocent, Molotov Cocktail/crowbar/skateboard/excrement bag wielding peaceful protesters, and the call for gun control will again be sounded from the same rooftops where people recently voted to restore order.
That's when the National Guard would be called in and the POTUS would be pressed for 'assistance', and not a moment sooner.
Patience people, stand firm, contain it as you must, and let it burn.
@Smokin JoeI don't know, but the subrogation department should be hiring...
I can't find a single word to disagree with.
Then again,neither you nor I live in one of those cities,so it isn't our homes being burned or our families being threatened.
I see the "City Fathers/Mothers using city funds to provide armed bodyguards for them,their families,and their homes,and sitting it out while condemning "right-wing violence" when citizens finally step forward and take the law into their own hands,where it has TRULY ALWAYS BEEN TO START WITH. Police are NOTHING MORE THAN AGENTS OF THE GOVERNMENT THAT REPRESENT OUR INTERESTS. When they stop protecting the interests of "We,the People",it is up to the people to do this for themselves.
BTW,does anyone know what the insurance companies are saying and doing that have policies covering businesses,homes,and other property in those cities?
BTW,does anyone know what the insurance companies are saying and doing that have policies covering businesses,homes,and other property in those cities?
Force majeure.
antifa demonstrators arrive at Sturgis with interesting results:
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antifa demonstrators arrive at Sturgis with interesting results:
Wow. Those clowns have no idea how lucky they are to be in lock-up.
(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1d3a776729fc517bd53f7a88ed35b27c371f35c66823282aad1f58801460bf1e.gif)
I understood it quite well @sneakypete.
Must have learned this from video games. happy77
@corbe
Huh? I didn't post a "you must be on drugs" image to you.
antifa demonstrators arrive at Sturgis with interesting results:
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm0DX_-23aE#)
Oftentimes my sarcasm even goes above my head, @sneakypete
@Smokin JoeHow 'bout that. :laugh: :nono: :beer: :silly:
How 'bout that. :laugh: :nono: :beer: :silly:
Trying to screw with some of the most ardently patriotic people in the country...
Notice the cops are protecting those pissants and getting them out of there. We wouldn't want them falling on some sharp pointy thing, or repeatedly falling down the stairs on the first floor, or something like that...or seeing if their green laser really would shine out the other end--(you never know what forms of self exploration those ANTIFA types might engage in). :whistle:
:silly: :silly: :beer:Yeah. they could have been road lines or crosswalks by the end of the rally (pounded too thin to scrape up...) Besides none of the Communist bikes can hold a candle to American Iron, even with a serious rebuild.
Funny how them little sh*ts hate the cops till it's inconvenient! And THAT is about as inconvenient as it gets!
How 'bout that. :laugh: :nono: :beer: :silly:
Trying to screw with some of the most ardently patriotic people in the country...
Notice the cops are protecting those pissants and getting them out of there. We wouldn't want them falling on some sharp pointy thing, or repeatedly falling down the stairs on the first floor, or something like that...or seeing if their green laser really would shine out the other end--(you never know what forms of self exploration those ANTIFA types might engage in). :whistle:
:silly: :silly: :beer:
Funny how them little sh*ts hate the cops till it's inconvenient! And THAT is about as inconvenient as it gets!
@Smokin JoeContext, pete. Who would you rather piss off?
I don't mind admitting that *I* do NOT want to live in a country where the cops feel free to do things like that. I want to live in America,not some third world police state.
NOT saying "Don't bust their heads if they attack you,ESPECIALLY if they shine a lazer into your eyes,but do NOT initiate the violence.
I am an idealist. I want to live in a country where the cops are the good guys.
Context, pete. Who would you rather piss off?
Police (who are constrained by ROE), or a pack of 1%ers who make their own when someone is messing with them?
I wasn't referring to the police having problems helping the antifas across the street, where the antifas might otherwise repeatedly trip over the lines in the crosswalk, but in all the years back when when I went to Sturgis, there were folks who just might gladly assist those Communists in that regard, making sure they didn't miss any opportunities to scuff themselves up being clumsy, and plenty of others who would not have seen a thing. The antifas picked the wrong crowd to spew at, and if not for the police protecting them and getting them out of there, might have left with marks ajax wouldn't take off.
QuoteContext, pete. Who would you rather piss off?
Police (who are constrained by ROE), or a pack of 1%ers who make their own when someone is messing with them?
I wasn't referring to the police having problems helping the antifas across the street, where the antifas might otherwise repeatedly trip over the lines in the crosswalk,
@Smokin Joe
My apologies for misunderstanding you.Quotebut in all the years back when when I went to Sturgis, there were folks who just might gladly assist those Communists in that regard, making sure they didn't miss any opportunities to scuff themselves up being clumsy, and plenty of others who would not have seen a thing. The antifas picked the wrong crowd to spew at, and if not for the police protecting them and getting them out of there, might have left with marks ajax wouldn't take off.
While recognizing that probably 90 percent of the people who go to Sturgis are "weekend warriors/posers",that still leaves a large crowd of scooter trash,and you spit in their eyes at your own risk.
Especially if you have the bad judgement to confront the part of that crowd that is too anti-social and mean to even join a outlaw biker club. Bet they don't do THAT but once! MOST people can spot these loners easily by the look in their eyes,but these people are clueless about almost everything but fashion.
Seattle Rioters Set Off ‘Large Explosion’ That Sends Cops To The HospitalDaily Wire (https://www.dailywire.com/news/seattle-rioters-set-off-large-explosion-that-sends-cops-to-the-hospital?%3Futm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwtwitter), citing FOX News (https://www.foxnews.com/us/police-officers-injure-during-seattle-riots-18-people-arrested).
By Emily Zanotti
Aug 17, 2020
Ongoing ‘anti-police†protests in Seattle descended into a riot yet again on Sunday as demonstrators set off a “large explosion†near a police car, sending at least one Seattle police officer to the hospital with injuries.
“The protest began in the Seattle neighborhood of SoDo around 7 p.m., with an estimated 100 people marching on foot with cars following behind them, according to a Monday morning press release by the Seattle Police Department,†Fox News reported Monday. “They made their way to the building that houses the Seattle Police Officer Guild and, within hours, the demonstration turned violent.†...
“Three officers were hurt, and one was taken to an area hospital for their injuries,†Fox News said. ‘Their condition was not immediately known.†...
@Smokin JoeI last went in '92 because, well, things had changed from the 'bad ol' days' of people who would ride a hardtail 1200 miles or more just to get there. (It was only 300 or so for me). When I saw a land yacht pull into a campground pulling an equally long trailer with seven bikes on it, I had to check and see where it was from. (South Dakota. Sheesh! Stay home and polish it. )
My apologies for misunderstanding you.
While recognizing that probably 90 percent of the people who go to Sturgis are "weekend warriors/posers",that still leaves a large crowd of scooter trash,and you spit in their eyes at your own risk.
Especially if you have the bad judgement to confront the part of that crowd that is too anti-social and mean to even join a outlaw biker club. Bet they don't do THAT but once! MOST people can spot these loners easily by the look in their eyes,but these people are clueless about almost everything but fashion.
SEATTLEDaily Wire (https://www.dailywire.com/news/seattle-rioters-set-off-large-explosion-that-sends-cops-to-the-hospital?%3Futm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwtwitter), citing FOX News (https://www.foxnews.com/us/police-officers-injure-during-seattle-riots-18-people-arrested).
@SCOOTERCASTER (FNTV)
@ScooterCasterNY
#HappeningNow the protesters in Rochester NY are "shutting down restaurants", tables are broken, people running off scared #rochesterprotests
Video: https://twitter.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/1302060108898357257
9:44 PM · Sep 4, 2020·Twitter for Android
Labor Day weekend is underway ....
This from upstate NY:
@SCOOTERCASTER (FNTV)
@ScooterCasterNY
Protest in Rochester declared an illegal assembly. Pepper balls shot into the crowd #HappeningNow #rochesterprotests
Video: https://twitter.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/1302077254772699136
10:53 PM · Sep 4, 2020·Twitter for Android
Another spontaneous Biden Rally.
When did these riots spread to Rochester??
@Right_in_VirginiaYep, I suspect the same. The Democrat cry for "Law and Order" will begin the moment there is a large enough (civilian based) movement to stop the rioters, the second they put a bunch of these rabid dogs down..
I SUSPECT this is all just a part of the general plan to create an uprising all over the nation in order to set the stage to seize total control of the government.
When did these riots spread to Rochester??When police tried to detain a naked black man having a mental health issue, who also had several drugs in his system (possibly PCP). He said he was going to take the cops' guns and kill everyone. The cops threw a spit shield over his head. The man, Daniel Prude, reportedly vomited, choked on his own vomit, and died. Seven cops suspended. Police union says everything was done by the book. Prude's family is screetching for murder charges.
@SCOOTERCASTER (FNTV) @ScooterCasterNYVideo at link
#HappeningNow the protesters in Rochester NY are "shutting down restaurants", tables are broken, people running off scared #rochesterprotests
9:44 PM · Sep 4, 2020·
https://twitter.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/1302060108898357257 (https://twitter.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/1302060108898357257)
Ryan Saavedra @RealSaavedraThe problem is that normal people have been terrorized for simply sitting at a restaurant enjoying a meal and pleasant weather when these animals show up. What then?
Right-wingers, conservatives, and other normal people should not engage these people at all. Do not go and counter protest them or anything. Let them do their damage and let Democrats suffer for it in November. Any misstep by the political right and the media will skew everything
12:15 AM · Sep 5, 2020
[Redacted] @thebleepstate
Replying to @RealSaavedra
The whole idea is to provoke Normies to get angry enough to lash back at them. That way, they can use it for propaganda to show how “racist†they are for attacking BLM’ers and continue the grift.
12:22 AM · Sep 5, 2020·
Good advice:The problem is that normal people have been terrorized for simply sitting at a restaurant enjoying a meal and pleasant weather when these animals show up. What then?I could hear the sound of breaking dishes, etc. I watched the video, and have little doubt the Democrats lost some votes to that crap. People there looked startled and some even traumatized but got out of there. Funny how the place was crawling with media types, though.
Funny how the place was crawling with media types, though.:pondering:
Pete the sneakin' one wrote:
"I only hope we can find another non-career politician to replace him. If not,we are going to have to start cracking down on the Republicans to make sure they don't start doing their own version of what the DNC has been doing since the 60's."
Folks may laugh, but I nominate Tucker Carlson.
Who in America is speaking more clearly about what's going on right now?
I'd vote for him. He has the power to "get the message through".
I'd vote for him before I'd vote for a guy like Pence, who will prove to be as hapless as was G.H.W. Bush after Reagan.
Addendum:
Pete also wrote (about Rochester):
"I SUSPECT this is all just a part of the general plan to create an uprising all over the nation in order to set the stage to seize total control of the government."
Please see this post I put up yesterday -- will take only a minute to read:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,413399.msg2280953.html#msg2280953 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,413399.msg2280953.html#msg2280953)
Pete the sneakin' one wrote:
"I only hope we can find another non-career politician to replace him. If not,we are going to have to start cracking down on the Republicans to make sure they don't start doing their own version of what the DNC has been doing since the 60's."
Folks may laugh, but I nominate Tucker Carlson.
Who in America is speaking more clearly about what's going on right now?
I'd vote for him. He has the power to "get the message through".
I'd vote for him before I'd vote for a guy like Pence, who will prove to be as hapless as was G.H.W. Bush after Reagan.
@Fishrrman
Let's not get ahead of ourselves and forget the PRIME consideration at them moment is to make sure Trump get's re-elected.
Otherwise it is a mute issue because if the Dims gain control of the WH again,they will immediately declare a state of national emergency due to all the rioting,and suspend future elections "for the duration of the emergency".
And since they will be the only ones in a position to determine when the emergency ends,guess how long that will last.
Addendum:
Pete also wrote (about Rochester):
"I SUSPECT this is all just a part of the general plan to create an uprising all over the nation in order to set the stage to seize total control of the government."QuotePlease see this post I put up yesterday -- will take only a minute to read:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,413399.msg2280953.html#msg2280953 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,413399.msg2280953.html#msg2280953)
EXCELLENT essay! You covered a few points I hadn't bothered to pursue because I was just hitting the highlights.
Besides,I was just a dumb NCO. Tactics is more my thing than an overall war plan that includes stuff like Civil Affairs.
MY version of a Civil Affairs operation is to get the prisoners to sweep up the bodies and dispose of them.
Pete the sneakin' one wrote:
"I only hope we can find another non-career politician to replace him. If not,we are going to have to start cracking down on the Republicans to make sure they don't start doing their own version of what the DNC has been doing since the 60's."
Folks may laugh, but I nominate Tucker Carlson.
Who in America is speaking more clearly about what's going on right now?
I'd vote for him. He has the power to "get the message through".
I'd vote for him before I'd vote for a guy like Pence, who will prove to be as hapless as was G.H.W. Bush after Reagan.
Addendum:
Pete also wrote (about Rochester):
"I SUSPECT this is all just a part of the general plan to create an uprising all over the nation in order to set the stage to seize total control of the government."
Please see this post I put up yesterday -- will take only a minute to read:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,413399.msg2280953.html#msg2280953 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,413399.msg2280953.html#msg2280953)
So ... I've been bombarded with numerous political text with the latest being that "Bikers for Trump" are riding into Wisconsin to show support for police officers and Trump -- they are organizing in less than 3 hours and of course need $$ (always bottom line).
We'll see what happens. Less than 3 hours of organization time to me is concerning...I'd hope that things would be a little better planned.
Not knocking bikers for Trump in any way and I hope they have some success, but the concern for their safety is certainly warranted.
To your point about Carlson - last week he did a segment on government agencies, including the CIA and FBI, mandating their employees take "critical race theory" training, which suggests white people are genetically racist, etc.
Yesterday Trump signed an EO banning such taxpayer funded training.
Carlson is currently not unlike the power behind the throne.
@skeeter
Ok,so was he for it,or against it?
Enquiring minds,and all dat.
Well,90 percent of them aren't really bikers. They are just old,fat men and women playing "dress up" on weekends.
As for the real bikers,don't worry too much about them being attacked. Violence a way of life for them,and the left will get more than they were looking for if they try anything.
His report was in the context of look at the racist sh*t your taxes are being spent on - why hasn't Trump don anything about it?
??? So are you really trying to say that they only true Bikers are violent? The gangers definitely but there are many fine Bikers who are very conservative that aren't violent that ride with cause and to convey that those riding for Trump are all gangers is ridiculous ... and btw ... most Bikers that I know aren't all old fat men and women who play dress up on the weekends -- that's quite an insult actually.
@libertybele
Words mean things. The word "biker" traditionally means "outlaw biker". As in outlaw motorcycle club,or just a loner who refuses to join ANY club. Even the AMA.
The modern yuppie types with disposable cash love to buy the costumes and pose as bikers,but they ain't "bikers". They are "motorcycle enthusiasts" .
And I seriously doubt you have ever met an actual "biker". Or would speak to one if you did.
BTW,this is NOT a personal attack or an insult. Merely an effort to define words. People today seem to think that words mean anything they want them to mean.
It's the equivalent of me going to a pawn shop and buying an electric guitar,and then suddenly telling everyone I am a rock star.
BTW-2,from what I have seen,most real "bikers" don't belong to clubs,but are generally accepted by clubbers because they share the same "you leave me alone and I will leave you alone" attitude. The independent riders are generally more anti-social and less-trusting than the clubbers. They just want to be left alone.
Scott Adams Retweeted
Marina Medvin
@MarinaMedvin
Favorite new sport: watching lines of cops take back cities.
Video: https://twitter.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1302953699711606785
8:55 AM · Sep 7, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Officers Arrest Woman on Capitol Hill After She Uses Machete to Slash Apartment Security GuardMore from Seattle police (https://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2020/09/09/officers-arrest-woman-on-capitol-hill-after-she-uses-machete-to-slash-apartment-security-guard/)
Written by Public Affairs on September 9, 2020 12:15 pm
Officers arrested a 32-year-old woman late Tuesday evening on Capitol Hill after she attacked an apartment building security guard, slashing him with a machete.
Around 11:20 PM, the 50-year-old security guard was patrolling near the 1600 block of 12th Avenue, near the Seattle Police Department’s East Precinct, when a 32-year-old woman began yelling insults at him from a vehicle.
According to a witness, the suspect then got out of her vehicle while carrying a Nerf Blaster, approached the guard and asked if he was an officer. The guard was reportedly wearing a vest with the word “officer†printed on the front and back. When the victim walked away, the suspect continued shouting insults at him. During the incident, the woman returned to her vehicle, retrieved a foot-long machete and began walking toward the guard and a witness.
The guard and a witness tried to quickly enter the lobby of an apartment building in the 1600 block of 12th Avenue to get away from the suspect.
The guard attempted to pull the building’s door shut, as the suspect fought to try and pull it open. During the struggle, the suspect reportedly slashed the guard on the forearm, leaving two five-inch cuts. ...
Police investigate ‘suspicious’ fire at Tacoma churchKIRO (https://www.kiro7.com/home/police-investigate-suspicious-fire-tacoma-church/PZIGBLRUHVA7TKDZ75JMQD4PJE/)
By: Jessica Oh, KIRO 7 News
Updated: September 15, 2020 - 5:31 AM
TACOMA, Wash. — The Tacoma Police Department is investigating a suspicious fire that caused serious damage to the city’s United Lutheran Church on Sunday.
Firefighters say the flames damaged three rooms, including a fellowship hall often used by local organizations like the Boy Scouts. ...
@BassWrangler I smallified the picture, with this code. Note the "width=600" I added in the IMG command below (I added a space or two so you can see the code).
[ img width=600]https://spdblotter.seattle.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/DSCN4038-2048x1536.jpg[/img]
Scott Adams Retweeted
Drew Hernandez
@livesmattershow
HAHA
WHO DID THIS
Video: https://twitter.com/livesmattershow/status/1306831521181990914
1:44 AM · Sep 18, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Welcome to TBR, Doug. Would love to see your ideas.
Andy Ngô
@MrAndyNgo
BLM rioters in Wauwatosa, Wisc. smash the windows of houses in a residential area. Video by @Julio_Rosas11
Video: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1314032224094752771
10:37 PM · Oct 7, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
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I'm hearing a protest in Denver turned bloody today, as one of the Antifa fascists (ironic, I know), shot a "patriot" counterprotester point blank.
I'm hearing a protest in Denver turned bloody today, as one of the Antifa fascists (ironic, I know), shot a "patriot" counterprotester point blank.
@mountaineer
Oh,yeah. The ANTIFA crowd getting into gunfights with the NRA crowd. Somehow,I don't think that is going to work out very well for the ANTIFA crowd,and they will stop shooting pretty quickly and run home to their mommies and their trust funds.
Or at least the survivors will.
The gun was drawn before the victim hit the spray. Doesn't look justifiable to me.
That's the thing, there won't be a gunfight, they'll just draw their gun when sprayed with pepper spray and claim it's "self defense".
Now there are reports saying the shooter was "security" for one of the news crews there.
The gun was drawn before the victim hit the spray. Doesn't look justifiable to me.
Some blogger broke down what happened (based upon several videos).
There was a BLM guy apparently trying to pick a fight with several counterprotestors.
BLM guy baited the victim, who didn't bite.
The shooter approached the group, the victim peeled off to confront him.
The shooter tried to grab for the victim's mace can, the victim slapped him, and began to back away.
The shooter pulled out his gun, the victim brought up his mace can and both went off simultaneously.
Needless to say the gun was more effective. Second degree murder, open and shut.
Second degree? Sounds more premeditated first degree to me, he was trying to provoke a confrontation for some time and then he finally succeeded in provoking a confrontation, responded with deadly force to a slap after the individual backed off? I see that as first degree all day every day.
Some blogger broke down what happened (based upon several videos).
There was a BLM guy apparently trying to pick a fight with several counterprotestors.
BLM guy baited the victim, who didn't bite.
The shooter approached the group, the victim peeled off to confront him.
The shooter tried to grab for the victim's mace can, the victim slapped him, and began to back away.
The shooter pulled out his gun, the victim brought up his mace can and both went off simultaneously.
Needless to say the gun was more effective. Second degree murder, open and shut.
@skeeterWouldnt surprise me Pete.
Maybe in America,but not in in Denver,where the left rules. Denver,Colorado Springs,and Golden leftist meccas. If the trial can be in one of the smaller towns away from the big cities,that goober would be agoing to prison.
In Denver,he will probably get a community citizenship award.
BTW,it's ok for leftists to have guns because guns are evil when leftists have them.
@skeeter
Maybe in America,but not in in Denver,where the left rules. Denver,Colorado Springs,and Golden leftist meccas. If the trial can be in one of the smaller towns away from the big cities,that goober would be agoing to prison.
In Denver,he will probably get a community citizenship award.
BTW,it's ok for leftists to have guns because guns are evil when leftists have them.
One slight objection Pete. The left hasn’t take over Colorado Springs...yet. But they are surrounded.
@txradioguy
It seemed like they were well on their way to taking over the last time I was out there,back in the late 70's. It's good to hear they weren't successful.
I guess Colorado Springs is too far away from the "Leftist Central" location of Denver,Boulder,and Golden for any of the big monied movers and shakers desertering Ca to move to.
@txradioguyMaybe you were thinking Fort Collins...
It seemed like they were well on their way to taking over the last time I was out there,back in the late 70's. It's good to hear they weren't successful.
I guess Colorado Springs is too far away from the "Leftist Central" location of Denver,Boulder,and Golden for any of the big monied movers and shakers desertering Ca to move to.
Maybe you were thinking Fort Collins...
Wendy Bell RadioI hadn't heard of this particular plot, though it's not the least bit surprising.
27m ·
An organization of left-wing radicals called ShutDownDC has posted an online guide to disruption that outlines a plan to shut down the country and force President Trump from power in the event the 2020 election is too close to call.
The guide, called 'Stopping the Coup,' calls for violence, civil unrest, and mass protest.
"Where we can, we need to be in the streets, on the highways, or at the sites of power and power holders," the guide reads. "In our jobs and lives we must refuse to allow those taking control the legitimacy of the power they seek through strikes, slowdowns, and boycotts, and public refusal to accept an illegitimate ruling party."
Do you believe the results of the upcoming presidential election - particularly if President Trump wins - will lead to civil unrest across the country?
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I wonder if we could trick antifa to vote for trump that way... what better way to convince people they're trump supporters than to actually vote trump!You're a clever one, I must say!
You're a clever one, I must say!
Just wonder how many Antifa punks actually leave their parent's basement to vote.
I doubt any of them vote. They are rebels,and rebels don't work inside the system.Voting is a concession to the Constitution and the system, man!
I wonder if we could trick antifa to vote for trump that way... what better way to convince people they're trump supporters than to actually vote trump!
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Written by Public Affairs on October 15, 2020 3:14 pm
Around 1:30 PM, an officer was in their patrol vehicle in an alley between Dexter Avenue and John Street looking for a man who was reportedly brandishing a flaming piece of lumber.
The officer found the man, who threw the flaming lumber—believed to be a 2×2—into the patrol vehicle while the officer was still inside.
Additional responding officers chased the man into a parking garage where they deployed a taser and took him into custody.
One officer is believed to have discharged a firearm during the incident. The suspect was not struck.
Additionally, as officers were arresting the man, the flames from the burning lumber engulfed the entire patrol vehicle.
One officer was transported to Harborview Medical Center with non-life-threatening burns. ...
Rantz: At least 118 Seattle police officers left department in mass exodusMy Northwest.com (https://mynorthwest.com/2236407/rantz-seattle-police-exodus/) (Rantz appears to be a conservative radio host).
By Jason Rantz
October 15, 2020 at 10:16 pm
At least 118 Seattle police officers separated from the department, the Jason Rantz Show on KTTH has confirmed. In September alone, 39 officers left the force when the typical number for that month is between 5 and 7. Even new recruits are leaving.
There are now only about 1,200 officers in service for the entire city, the lowest it’s been in a decade. And even this number is misleading. Many officers are using their accrued sick time as they begin their escape to other agencies or wait for retirement. ...
At least 118 officers have separated from the force in 2020, with the bulk leaving after the Seattle City Council embraced radical activists pushing to defund the police. Separations are all-inclusive, including resignations (including lateral-moves to other agencies) and retirements.
While council members either stayed quiet as criminal activists attempted to murder police or defended death threats, officers gave their notice. Some went to other departments, others retired. The downward trend is expected to continue. ...
Breaking911 @Breaking911Glad I'm already stocked up. Guess they are expecting the worst.
BREAKING: Walmart removes all guns and ammunition from displays in its U.S. stores, aiming to head off any potential theft of firearms if the stores are broken into amid social unrest - WSJ
4:30 PM · Oct 29, 2020
Last time I was in Walmart's sporting goods section, all I saw was shotgun shells. It's been a long time since that had anything for pistols. They really ought to lock up their TVs, since that's the first thing the "protesters" go for.
I’ve never seen guns at Walmart. Other than water pistols.They used to have them. Lately, just air guns and maybe shotguns.
I’ve never seen guns at Walmart. Other than water pistols.Our local Walmarts carry a good supply of ammo, plus rifles, shotguns, handguns...you name it. I agree that they need to lockup their tv's since that seems to be the first to go in a riot situation. It won't happen here I assure you, as a huge number of citizens are armed and are quite proficient.
Walmart is probably the last place I'd purchase ammo. :shrug:I bought some several years ago because the price was right, but haven't seen my calibers there in ages.
I bought some several years ago because the price was right, but haven't seen my calibers there in ages.
I bought some several years ago because the price was right, but haven't seen my calibers there in ages.
Graham, #NorthCarolina #BlackLivesMatter #AntifaTerrorists blocking polls & intimidating voter's. Police are pepper spraying.
https://twitter.com/CTruthforTrump/status/1323002548299640834
Spray ‘em good and hard.
Voting is our birth right. Intimidation and threats against voters is anti-American. Should never become a feature of American elections, never.
Another night of protests in NYC: Naked fountain dancing and dinner with a showNY Post (https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/nyc-protesters-denounce-trump-cops-and-biden-during-election-stalemate/)
By Joe Marino and Laura Italiano
November 6, 2020 | 11:35pm | Updated
Protesters march past West Village restaurant
It was just another night of protests in Manhattan — with one naked reveler dancing in a fountain and wary outdoor diners watching, forks in the air, as a procession of some 300 marchers file past.
The night’s festivities began with a combination Black Lives Matter protest and “Donald Trump is Over†dance party at Washington Square Park.
“The people are calling it!†impatient Joe Biden fans asserted in online ads for the event.
In what may have been some kind of political statement, one attendee doffed his clothes and jumped into the park’s fountain, where he danced around shouting, “I’m Nevada!†...
@mountaineerWe need people on those vessels, and a boat or two of our own.... :whistle:
That's why you buy it be the case when the price is right. I have bought cases of surplus Israeli still in sealed battle packs for less than what the brass would have cost me when I bought the surplus ammo.
Granted,I lived close to friend at that time that had a pro range with pop-up targets out to 500 meters,and was shooting a LOT.
Not as much as my friend,though. He would order it by the pallet. We would all get together at the same time and place one order to get the maximum discounts,
Those of you with AR-15's should cheer up. IF Trump gets re-elected there will be PLENTY of surplus 5.56mm for sale soon,when the US military switches back to 30 cal rifles.
Of course,if Biden is elected,all the surplus 5.56mm will just get dumped in the sea,not sold as surplus.
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Ok I'll drink to that. :beer:
Wonder if it actually happened?
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If she can find any the kids haven't totaled or burned.
@Right_in_Virginia
"Evil"?
He is my hero!
Now mommy is going to have to buy them all new cars.
I hope there are enough people with the common sense and the eyes to see that George Floyd was a known criminal, with horrible offenses under his belt, who was fighting with the police. And if you watch the entire video, the police did everything humanly possible to be fair and as gentle as possible with him. It was only at the end when everything they did, didn't work that they had to force him to the ground and pin him there. And that is common for people who will not comply and who are violent. The police HAVE to pin people down. It happens all the time. Of course, none of us want it to result in death, but it can and does happen when people fight and are non-compliant.Nothing will change. Subsidize something and you will get more of it.
George Floyd took his OWN life in his hands when he broke the law, AND more importantly, when he fought with the cops. YOU CANNOT BLAME THE POLICE FOR YOUR BEHAVIOR RESULTING IN YOUR INJURY OR DEATH. IT'S YOUR FAULT, NO ONE ELSES.
So regardless of what the popular opinion is, and regardless of how many people, liberals and minorities say it's the cop's fault, it wasn't. And I am tired of people blaming their bad behavior on other people, cops included. You cannot be the ones who cause the highest percentage of the problems, then complain that that's how people treat you. It makes no sense. If you want to stop being treated like criminals, then stop breaking the freaking law. Seems simple enough to me.
I think people do want change, but there are a huge number of people who are thriving on the chaos of the moment, don't mistake that as fighting for justice. This has nothing to do with justice. Justice is not blaming the police for the consequences you faced by breaking the law.
And I know nobody wants to say it, but how many special programs, special laws, special organizations, special groups, special after-school programs etc. does this particular group need before they start being a part of the community, being a productive member of the community? After they get all these changes they're pushing for, is anyone telling me that they will suddenly get better grades in school, they'll suddenly start paying attention in school, start going to college, stop breaking the law, stop looting and stealing, stop committing violence in the streets?
Please tell me what will change?
While the local media portrays Ada Yaeger as "unhoused" and "homeless," she is actually a former college student from Texas, an activist with ties to Marxist groups that are seeking to destroy America.Full story at the Post Millennial (https://thepostmillennial.com/homeless-poster-child-for-new-seattle-autonomous-zone-revealed-to-be-marxist-activist-from-texas)
Two weeks ago, the Seattle Police Department (SPD) and Parks Department, announced that they would be clearing the massive homeless encampment in Cal Anderson Park. The park was the site of the infamous Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ) this summer.
Following the announcement of the clearing, activists moved into the park and began to construct barriers to protect their riot staging areas, not the dozens of tents in the park. Though they claimed to be protecting the homeless from SPD, many of those homeless people who were in tents accepted offers of shelter and services from the city and the police. Some of those who had been living in the park even accused the Antifa activists of assaulting them.
Attorneys for Ada Yeager, who had been living at the park, filed a lawsuit and argued that any clearing of the encampments violated her constitutional rights and could result in the damage or seizure of personal property by authorities. ...
Yaeger was portrayed by the local media as a homeless camper with no other place to go. None of the Seattle media looked into her background or even at her social media profiles where all this was readily available. ...
'Homeless' poster child for new Seattle 'autonomous zone' revealed to be Marxist activist from Texas
Ada Yaeger is actually a former college student from Texas, an activist with ties to Marxist groups that are seeking to destroy America.
Ari Hoffman Seattle, WA
December 22, 2020 1:01 PMFull story at the Post Millennial (https://thepostmillennial.com/homeless-poster-child-for-new-seattle-autonomous-zone-revealed-to-be-marxist-activist-from-texas)
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Ada Yeager, third from left, with leadership from Freedom Road Socialist Organization
Well ain't that a surprise...
Have they tried ... ya' know, running for office and all that? They just declare some piece of shit street corner an autonomous zone and declare themselves king? I remember doing similar back in grade school.
You make them sound innocuous, like they just have bad manners. But the history of neo Marxists movements show a very different story. Their political goals and well-known tactics always play out the same: they employ intimidation, corruption, violence and force in order to achieve control over your government and your life.
Well the Leftists in this country now have their justification for the severe crackdowns on our freedoms and liberties they will start imposing on us in the coming weeks.
Well the Leftists in this country now have their justification for the severe crackdowns on our freedoms and liberties they will start imposing on us in the coming weeks.
Well the Leftists in this country now have their justification for the severe crackdowns on our freedoms and liberties they will start imposing on us in the coming weeks.
Not any different from the justification Adolf Eichmann had.
@txradioguyThere is a reason the GOP seems SO much more concerned now than they were when Antifa and BLM were simply beating up average citizens and burning out small businesses all summer.
EEEK! EEEK! The conservatives are starting to fight back and Republicans are getting the vapors over Americans standing up and fighting back in protest over the internaitonal left taking over our nation!
The HORRORS!
@Hoodat
AMERICANS are fighting back against the communist/globalist take-over of America,and you are calling THEM "Nazi's"????
Did you not take history classes in school as a child?
@sneakypete
Uh, no. You misread my post. Leftists have the same justification Eichmann had. For National Socialists, the reason given was, "But they were Jews". For us, it will be "But they were Conservatives".
@sneakypete
Uh, no. You misread my post. Leftists have the same justification Eichmann had. For National Socialists, the reason given was, "But they were Jews". For us, it will be "But they were Conservatives".