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Title: "You ain't black".
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 22, 2020, 03:50:46 pm
Thank you Joe, for handing Trump this terrific gift.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: mystery-ak on May 22, 2020, 03:59:42 pm
Trump campaign: Biden remarks about black people 'racist and dehumanizing'




President Trump’s reelection campaign blasted former Vice President Joe Biden on Friday for saying that if you support Trump “then you ain’t black,” calling the remarks “racist and dehumanizing.”

“White liberal elitists have continuously dictated which black Americans are allowed to come to the table and have a voice,” said Katrina Pierson, a senior adviser to the Trump campaign and leader of its Black Voices for Trump group.

“It is clear now more than ever, following these racist and dehumanizing remarks, that Joe Biden believes black men and women are incapable of being independent or free thinking. He truly believes that he, a 77-year-old white man, should dictate how black people should behave. Biden has a history of racial condescension and today he once again proved what a growing number of black Americans and I have always known — Joe Biden does not deserve our votes.”

more
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/499143-trump-campaign-biden-remarks-about-black-people-racist-and-dehumanizing
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: mystery-ak on May 22, 2020, 04:01:28 pm
more here
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,402785.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,402785.0.html)
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: mystery-ak on May 22, 2020, 04:14:52 pm
'Were in jest': Biden campaign downplays 'you ain't black' comment
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/were-in-jest-biden-campaign-downplays-you-aint-black-comment (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/were-in-jest-biden-campaign-downplays-you-aint-black-comment)

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    Symone D. Sanders
    ✔
    @SymoneDSanders
     Â· 1h

    Vice President Biden spent his career fighting alongside and for the African American community. He won his party's nomination by earning every vote and meeting people where they are and that's exactly what he intends to do this November. 1/

    Symone D. Sanders
    ✔
    @SymoneDSanders

    The comments made at the end of the Breakfast Club interview were in jest, but let’s be clear about what the VP was saying: he was making the distinction that he would put his record with the African American community up against Trump’s any day. Period.
    3,967
    10:07 AM - May 22, 2020



total bullshit..if you saw the video you see he is not joking...
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: XenaLee on May 22, 2020, 04:19:17 pm
'Were in jest': Biden campaign downplays 'you ain't black' comment
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/were-in-jest-biden-campaign-downplays-you-aint-black-comment (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/were-in-jest-biden-campaign-downplays-you-aint-black-comment)



total bullshit..if you saw the video you see he is not joking...

It was the typical Biden attitude displayed.  If you don't agree with him, you get a finger wagged in your face or an insult.   Biden is a total dumb-@ss.   Nothing has changed, IOW.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 22, 2020, 04:29:42 pm
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0S4XFJsJZU#)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0S4XFJsJZU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0S4XFJsJZU)
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 22, 2020, 04:31:39 pm
It was the typical Biden attitude displayed.  If you don't agree with him, you get a finger wagged in your face or an insult.   Biden is a total dumb-@ss.   Nothing has changed, IOW.

Yer just being a lying, dog-faced pony soldier...

(Interesting side note:  The gal Biteme said that to really was lying about attending a Convention.)
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: XenaLee on May 22, 2020, 04:33:36 pm
Yer just being a lying, dog-faced pony soldier...

(Interesting side note:  The gal Biteme said that to really was lying about attending a Convention.)

Yeah, he's good at name-calling, like the atypical leftie.   Other than lying, that really is all they are good at or for.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: mystery-ak on May 22, 2020, 04:48:08 pm
Tim Scott blasts Biden for 'arrogant' remark about black voters

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The South Carolinian, who is the only black Republican in the Senate, said it was disrespectful for Biden to say during an interview Friday that black people who "have a problem" deciding whether to vote for him or President Trump "ain't black."

"That is the most arrogant, condescending comment I’ve heard in a very long time, and that’s saying something," Scott told Fox Business host Stuart Varney on Friday.

more
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/tim-scott-blasts-biden-for-arrogant-remark-about-black-voters (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/tim-scott-blasts-biden-for-arrogant-remark-about-black-voters)
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 22, 2020, 04:48:15 pm
This may be the only time Slow Joe has spoken what he believes to be the truth.   :smokin:
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: libertybele on May 22, 2020, 04:54:04 pm
Yer just being a lying, dog-faced pony soldier...

(Interesting side note:  The gal Biteme said that to really was lying about attending a Convention.)

Hey ... you stole my favorite line of Sloe Joe's    :rolling:  The trump campaign seriously needs to use that line in one of their anti-Biden ads along with this latest line of "you ain't black".    I'd now like to know if the lying dog-face pony soldier is white or black.  What about the Hispanics?  Certainly he must have a line for them as well.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: LadyLiberty on May 22, 2020, 05:04:55 pm
Joe has lost his filter and is going to be "the gift that keeps on giving" throughout the campaign.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 22, 2020, 06:51:03 pm
Yeah, he's good at name-calling, like the atypical leftie.   Other than lying, that really is all they are good at or for.

That or the beginning stages of Alzheimer's. Watch that clip again.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: sneakypete on May 22, 2020, 06:56:00 pm
Joe has lost his filter and is going to be "the gift that keeps on giving" throughout the campaign.

@LadyLiberty

Not if Dim activists can get laws changed and maybe purposely infect more "captive audiences" like people in nursing homes and hospitals and then demand the quarantine be put back into place.

This flu has been nothing less than an outright GIFT to the DNC because it stopped all campaigns,and Slow Joe could hide at home.

Without a quarantine,they got nothing.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: XenaLee on May 22, 2020, 07:01:48 pm
That or the beginning stages of Alzheimer's. Watch that clip again.

Yeah, I've seen the vids showing signs of early dementia.   But he was stupid/dishonest even before he got senile.   
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: Hoodat on May 22, 2020, 08:03:08 pm
I have a dream that my children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: mystery-ak on May 22, 2020, 08:08:13 pm
Biden regrets remarks about black support: 'I shouldn't have been such a wise guy'
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/499213-biden-regrets-remarks-about-black-support-i-shouldnt-have-been-such-a-wise
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: mystery-ak on May 22, 2020, 08:31:25 pm
Nolte: ‘You Ain’t Black’ and Joe Biden’s 10 Other Acts of Racism

John Nolte22 May 2020701
6:15

Joe Biden committed yet another bizarre outburst of virulent racism on Friday morning when he told black America that if they don’t vote for him in November “then you ain’t black.”

As is usually the case, the 77-year-old looked confused and tired during his virtual interview with Charlamagne tha God, co-host of the Breakfast Club, a popular syndicated radio show.

The entire interview was a disaster. Biden slurred his words, lost his train of thought, and looked frail and more than a little out of it. So it would have been an embarrassment even without the racist outburst.

Good heavens, about ten minutes into the 18-minute interview, while speaking primarily about black prisoners, Biden claimed they “can’t read.” After this comment, a Biden aide tried to shut it down. Biden stubbornly refused, and things only went downhill from there.

Without being asked a question that would solicit such a thing, or any question for that matter, Biden just blurted out: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black!”

more
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/22/nolte-you-aint-black-and-joe-bidens-10-other-acts-of-racism/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/22/nolte-you-aint-black-and-joe-bidens-10-other-acts-of-racism/)
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: jafo2010 on May 22, 2020, 08:58:24 pm
Biden's "You ain't black"...manna from heaven for Trump.

Spoke to several black/liberal friends today, and they can't stand him.  But it does not matter, Hillary will ride in on her white horse and save the day.

And who does she pick for VP?  My guess, she goes after the Hispanic vote with Castro, or another Hispanic running mate. 
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 22, 2020, 09:00:47 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYpK3HHWAAAxXCJ?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: aligncare on May 22, 2020, 09:12:09 pm
Biden's "You ain't black"...manna from heaven for Trump.

Spoke to several black/liberal friends today, and they can't stand him.  But it does not matter, Hillary will ride in on her white horse and save the day.

And who does she pick for VP?  My guess, she goes after the Hispanic vote with Castro, or another Hispanic running mate.

Could be.

But, Hispanics have a dissimilar history from blacks in the Republican Party. There are greater numbers of Hispanics who vote republican, and as a group they are more conservative than blacks.

No matter. Whatever strategic move the hildabeast takes (if she’s even in the position to), she goes down to Trump. He beat her before. He’ll do it again.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: berdie on May 22, 2020, 09:15:49 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYpK3HHWAAAxXCJ?format=jpg&name=small)



That is hilarious!  :rolling:
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: jafo2010 on May 22, 2020, 09:21:30 pm
It depends.  Did she learn anything from 2016?  If she did, she is a real threat.

Plus, she is light years smarter than Biden, so she uses a couple of pages from the Trump playbook, and she beats him at his own game.

If she focuses on JOBS, the people will listen.  He will own this economic downturn.  She can beat him up on both the virus and the economy.  He is vulnerable.  This is not the record breaking economy he had coming into 2020.  It is the record breaking number of unemployed.  He owns that.  And he is doing nothing to change it much either.

Trump promised Day One of his presidency to end the H1-b Visa Program.  He failed to fulfill this promise.  He met with power brokers in tech and flip flopped, increasing H1-b Visas.  Many of these visas are in Florida and Michigan.  She uses that against him, that will be a major ouch.  It will be about jobs, and who do you trust, the man that destroyed the economy listening to medical folks that were never correct with their data, or someone with a reputation of creating jobs that stick.  She can kick him good and hard.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: mystery-ak on May 22, 2020, 09:28:28 pm
Biden seeks to tamp down controversy over remarks about black support
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/499230-the-hills-campaign-report-biden-seeks-to-tamp-down-controversy-over-remarks
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: mystery-ak on May 22, 2020, 09:31:08 pm
Marie Harf Says Biden’s Comments Weren’t Racist — Harris Faulkner Says ‘It Doesn’t Need A Label, It’s Just Hurtful’

(https://images.dailycaller.com/image/width=960,height=411,fit=cover,f=auto/https://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/harffaulkner-e1590169961429.png)

Marie Harf and Harris Faulkner clashed Friday over comments former Vice President Joe Biden made about black voters.

Biden, during an interview for “The Breakfast Club,” said, “If you don’t know whether you’re for me or Trump, you ain’t black” — and both Harf and Faulkner responded to Biden’s comments during a segment of “Outnumbered.”

“So, this is his senior campaign advisor, Symone Sanders, tweeting, ‘The comments made at the end of the Breakfast Club interview were in jest. Let’s be clear about what the VP was saying. He was making the distinction that he would put his record with the African-American community up against Trump’s any day, period,'” host Melissa Francis began, turning the question to Harf. “Was what he said racist?”

“Well, it definitely was not racist,” Harf replied, adding that she did feel Biden’s comments had been inappropriate and thought that he should probably offer an apology. “We all say things on television or radio interviews that maybe we would like to take back,” she added.

Harf went on to defend Biden’s record with the black community, saying once more that she believed he ought to clarify his remarks.

Francis then turned the question to Faulkner, who disagreed with Harf’s position.

“I’ve been fighting against this notion that you are not black enough unless you think a certain way, you vote a certain way, you speak a certain way, you do certain things,” Faulkner said. “My whole life, I grew up military. Pretty much neutral along the zone of, can’t we all just get along no matter what we look like? I have biracial daughters. Melissa, you know them.”

“This is more than just a little offensive. It is shortsighted, it is a blind spot for this former vice president,” Faulkner continued, saying that Biden should have taken the opportunity to clarify his statement immediately, while the interview was still going on. “He should have gotten up immediately on whatever venue, microphone he had.”

more w/video
https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/22/marie-harf-biden-comments-not-racist-harris-faulkner-disagrees/
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: mystery-ak on May 22, 2020, 09:32:19 pm
I missed it...whenever I see Harf on any show at Fox I mute it or change the channel...
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: mortarman on May 22, 2020, 09:34:34 pm
It's like shootin' fish in a barrel.

 :pop41:
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: sneakypete on May 23, 2020, 12:50:47 am
Biden's "You ain't black"...manna from heaven for Trump.

Spoke to several black/liberal friends today, and they can't stand him.  But it does not matter, Hillary will ride in on her white horse and save the day.

And who does she pick for VP?  My guess, she goes after the Hispanic vote with Castro, or another Hispanic running mate.

@jafo2010

Or maybe her main squeeza,Huma,so she can get the Palestine vote and money.

Don't forget,she will be in a position where she can name anyone she wants,and there's not a damn thing anybody can do about it.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: Lando Lincoln on May 23, 2020, 02:15:04 am
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbvz_eJHyPQ#)
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: mortarman on May 23, 2020, 07:20:21 am
Shortbus Joe has expressed the underlining opinion of the Dis-Loyal Opposition an' the Propaganda Ministry For the Left-wing Fascist Agenda that the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 is still a valid law.

 :pop41:
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: sneakypete on May 23, 2020, 01:28:46 pm
Shortbus Joe has expressed the underlining opinion of the Dis-Loyal Opposition an' the Propaganda Ministry For the Left-wing Fascist Agenda that the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 is still a valid law.

 :pop41:

@mortarman

I'm willing to cut Slow Joe a little slack on this one because all he is really doing is SAYING what the vast majority of the Dims are thinking. They see the "darkies" as "useful ignorant tools who are unable to take care of themselves,and who can be counted on to vote for us as long as we keep them fed,watered,and living in government housing on the "Welfare Reservation".

I don't know how long it's going to take,but eventually the mass of the blacks that grew up under THIS particular version of Apartheid will wake up one day,and when they do,the various "Rev-Runds" will pay a terrible price for their betrayals.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: DCPatriot on May 23, 2020, 01:40:40 pm
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Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: aligncare on May 23, 2020, 01:52:03 pm
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LOL!

A panderer is someone who tries to please others, not to help them but for an ulterior motive. A panderer kisses up to get something. A panderer is sometimes vulgar. Politicians are often panderers, especially the ones who say or do anything to get a vote or raise money.

Joe just may be the whitest panderer in America.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: DCPatriot on May 23, 2020, 01:57:06 pm
@mortarman

I'm willing to cut Slow Joe a little slack on this one because all he is really doing is SAYING what the vast majority of the Dims are thinking. They see the "darkies" as "useful ignorant tools who are unable to take care of themselves,and who can be counted on to vote for us as long as we keep them fed,watered,and living in government housing on the "Welfare Reservation".

I don't know how long it's going to take,but eventually the mass of the blacks that grew up under THIS particular version of Apartheid will wake up one day,and when they do,the various "Rev-Runds" will pay a terrible price for their betrayals.

1st Minute of 1st Debate:

President Trump:  Your deplorable, yet extremely revealing statement regarding Black-Americans' thinking of voting for me...I have done more for the financial well-being of Black-American households in just 3 years...than you...or your Party has in 50 years... as Senator and/or Vice-President....btw...part of the most corrupt Administration in United States' history.

Vice-President Biden: 

................................. I shouldn't be up here.  What am I doing up here?????? .....................


Still maintain Joe Biden will NOT be the Dem candidate going into November.  But if wrong, we're talking 'Reagan-Mondale' numbers here.   :laugh:
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: 240B on May 23, 2020, 02:00:17 pm
This would be Great if Joe was the real candidate.
Since he is only a placeholder, he will likely leave in late summer/early fall and this will be forgotten.
But, in some ways the crazy things he says and does reflects badly on the entire Democrat Party.
And that is a good thing.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: DCPatriot on May 23, 2020, 02:08:17 pm
LOL!

A panderer is someone who tries to please others, not to help them but for an ulterior motive. A panderer kisses up to get something. A panderer is sometimes vulgar. Politicians are often panderers, especially the ones who say or do anything to get a vote or raise money.

Joe just may be the whitest panderer in America.

That "Uncle Joe" schtick .... he's a legend in his own mind now.   "Come on, man...!!"  "Gimme a break....!!"

It's his immediate Go-To. 

His remark during the 2012 Election was right there for us. "They're gonna put y'all back in chains!!"

Thought it was scripted.  BZZZZ!!  Wrong! Twas Uncle Joe unplugged.  Pun intended. 

 
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: mountaineer on May 23, 2020, 02:38:39 pm
Any comment yet from Barry Hussein, his lovely "wife" Mooch, Oprah or Hillary "hot sauce in my purse" Clinton on Joe's comment?
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: sneakypete on May 23, 2020, 02:43:48 pm
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@DCPatriot

HEY! If Bubba,who is so white you can almost see through him can be "The First Black President",Slow Joe,the perve,can surely be the Second Black President.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 23, 2020, 02:45:10 pm
Any comment yet from Barry Hussein, his lovely "wife" Mooch, Oprah or Hillary "hot sauce in my purse" Clinton on Joe's comment?

That would require somebody asking the questions, and I don't see that happening.  Joe needs to be shielded from his own mouth.  The aforementioned are bless with a compliant press.  Our side has never had that.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: sneakypete on May 23, 2020, 02:45:47 pm
LOL!

A panderer is someone who tries to please others, not to help them but for an ulterior motive. A panderer kisses up to get something. A panderer is sometimes vulgar. Politicians are often panderers, especially the ones who say or do anything to get a vote or raise money.

Joe just may be the whitest panderer in America.

@aligncare

"Are OFTEN panderers"  It's a job requirement.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 23, 2020, 02:45:55 pm
@DCPatriot

HEY! If Bubba,who is so white you can almost see through him can be "The First Black President",Slow Joe,the perve,can surely be the Second Black President.

I'm sure Toni Morrison would approve.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 23, 2020, 03:18:52 pm
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Weak. He needs a grill, dew rag, pants saggin' n sheet.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 23, 2020, 03:37:29 pm
Weak. He needs a grill, dew rag, pants saggin' n sheet.

And an oversized alarm clock to wear around his neck. 
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: aligncare on May 23, 2020, 03:43:05 pm
I'm sure Toni Morrison would approve.

 :beer:

These democrats are spectacularly corrupt people.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: 240B on May 23, 2020, 05:45:55 pm
What would CornPop say about this!?
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: mystery-ak on May 23, 2020, 07:28:40 pm
John K Stahl
@JohnKStahlUSA
·
6h
Shamu and PolyGrip just issued a joint statement on Joe’s latest racist gaffe. “Joe Biden is Joe Biden.” They declined to elaborate further and announced that they would take no future questions on the matter.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYtG82-UcAYGhIG?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: jafo2010 on May 23, 2020, 07:39:14 pm
Abrams looks like a whale in that photo for sure.  Absolutely delusional on her part to think they would ever select her.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: truth_seeker on May 23, 2020, 08:24:21 pm
Joe has lost his filter and is going to be "the gift that keeps on giving" throughout the campaign.

I saw Justice Clarence, school his intrrogators during his confirmation hearing in 1991. Biden was committee chairman, I think.

That is when Thomas, called the hearing a "Hi-Tech Lynching.

The black community will see that vid, if Biden remaisn the candidate.

If there are debates, he will hear a question about that scene.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 23, 2020, 09:06:29 pm
I saw Justice Clarence, school his intrrogators during his confirmation hearing in 1991. Biden was committee chairman, I think.

That is when Thomas, called the hearing a "Hi-Tech Lynching.

The black community will see that vid, if Biden remaisn the candidate.

If there are debates, he will hear a question about that scene.

Yahbut....Clarence Thomas isn't a "real black."  That's the exact point Sloe Joe was making.
Title: Re: "You ain't black".
Post by: 240B on May 23, 2020, 09:31:44 pm
Posted this in one of the Pookie Tunes. Seems appropriate here.

It doesn't matter if you are Liberal or Democrat, Female, Black, Brown, Asian, Muslim, Jew, Gay, Trans, Elderly, Handicapped, or anything else.
According to the Liberal Fascists (Sieg Heil!), if you are not in Lock Step Goose Stepping with them and every minute detail of their agenda, you have forfeited all rights you may have had as a human being. You suddenly transform in their world from a respected Doctor or PhD, into a subhuman imbecile in the instant that you oppose anything they believe.